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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: spangley1812 on November 11, 2022, 06:35:56 PM
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Club have announced a friendly v Villarreal on Thurs 15/12/2022 - 20.00pm ko
Aston Villa will host Villarreal in a friendly match on Thursday, December 15 (ko 8pm).
The match at Villa Park will see Unai Emery welcome his former club to the Midlands as part of the Villa squad's preparations for their return to action after the World Cup.
Tickets for the fixture are on sale online now!
Not all stands at Villa Park will be open for this fixture so, due to anticipated demand, there will be an initial opportunity for season ticket holders to buy tickets along with friends and family before tickets are put on general sale.
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Roll up, roll up, come and see Olsen in goal again!
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Roll up, roll up, come and see Olsen in goal again!
At least there’ll be plenty of goals.
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Interesting, didn't expect that. At least he seems to have left them with good wishes.
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Is this (and the Cardiff game) the first mid-season friendly since the Bari one?
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Roll up, roll up, come and see Olsen in goal again!
At least there’ll be plenty of goals.
Ha ha ha, excellent!
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Roll up, roll up, come and see Olsen in goal again!
don't do that I trying to get over Thursdays performance
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Game to be followed by a ceremony in the Holte Suite at which Yeremi Pino, Samuel Chukwueze and Nicolas Jackson sign for the real Villa.
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Game to be followed by a ceremony in the Holte Suite at which Yeremi Pino, Samuel Chukwueze and Nicolas Jackson sign for the real Villa.
And Pau Torres.
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Once those Villarreal players play at VP , they will be desperate to sign for us .
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Let's put Sinisalo in goal, please.
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Theoretically can any of our players out on loan play?
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Roll up, roll up, come and see Olsen in goal again!
Nah he’ll play in goal himself before he picks him again. Or maybe ask Tyrone to play rush back.
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I’d play McGinn in goal to see if we can find a position that suits him. Mind you, he wasn’t at all bad against Brighton.
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Game to be followed by a ceremony in the Holte Suite at which Yeremi Pino, Samuel Chukwueze and Nicolas Jackson sign for the real Villa.
And Pau Torres.
Yes, please!
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Have also arranged a game against Chelsea in Abu Dhabi on Sunday 11/12/2022 - 2.10pm (GMT) ko.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2022/november/24/villa-set-for-dubai-training-camp/
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Ah sound. Is Steve Gough organising a coach?
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Ah sound. Is Steve Gough organising a coach?
If he is I hope it goes to Abu Dhabi where the game is, and not Dubai.
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Will the winners be crowned the real Villa?
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Bit worried for this one, looking at the weather.
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Bit worried for this one, looking at the weather.
It's going to be bloody cold. I'd bought tickets but then realised it's our work do that night, kind of glad it is now.
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BBC are saying -2 at kick-off.
I can’t remember the year, but I remember Anfield when we were getting hammered and it was -3 and that was evil. I think it was the birth of “let’s pretend we scored a goal”. Could barely feel my feet.
I’m looking forward to the game though and a rare seat in the Trinity. Think the last time I was in that stand was the league cup loss to QPR under O’Neil. Though annoyingly since they’ve opened up the upper Holte and I could have had my own seat. >:(
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BBC are saying -2 at kick-off.
I appreciate the show of confidence but it's a bit patronising of Unai to give his old team a 2 goal start.
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I’m unenthusiastic for friendly games in the middle of summer so definitely can’t be bothered to drag myself out in the cold for an evening kick off in December.
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I’m unenthusiastic for friendly games in the middle of summer so definitely can’t be bothered to drag myself out in the cold for an evening kick off in December.
I gave up on pre-season games a few years ago, but at least those have the attraction of seeing some new signings in action.
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I’m unenthusiastic for friendly games in the middle of summer so definitely can’t be bothered to drag myself out in the cold for an evening kick off in December.
Same. Far too cold and don't fancy driving home at 11pm in the freezing fog either.
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I’m unenthusiastic for friendly games in the middle of summer so definitely can’t be bothered to drag myself out in the cold for an evening kick off in December.
Same. Far too cold and don't fancy driving home at 11pm in the freezing fog either.
Haha! I can imagine doing that and leaving it to Waze. ＼(°o°)／
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BBC now saying it will be -5 at kick-off. ;D I'm taking a blanky.
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I’m unenthusiastic for friendly games in the middle of summer so definitely can’t be bothered to drag myself out in the cold for an evening kick off in December.
Same. Far too cold and don't fancy driving home at 11pm in the freezing fog either.
I live less than 3 miles from Villa Park. There's no way I'm being prized away from the fireside for that.
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Lowest VP crowd since Southampton '85/86? Ellis Out!
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Slightly annoyed this thread isn't called Villa vs Villa.
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Slightly annoyed this thread isn't called Villa vs Villa.
Or Royal Villa v Villareal
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Slightly annoyed this thread isn't called Villa vs Villa.
Or Royal Villa v Villareal
Or Real Villa v Villareal
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Or Real Villa v Villareal
Yes! Much like the Real Ghostbusters had to steal their name back.
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I'm looking forward to it.
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I wonder how many tickets they've sold for this.
Not massively appealing for the reasons mooted above by others.
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There's a fair few going I think. I can't remember which stands they released but I think the bottom of the Trinity and Holte and the middle Trinity are pretty much sold out. The Upper Holte has about 3k empty seats, but not sure they've released all the blocks. I can't remember if they released any for the Doug and North.
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Had a look - they opened just the lower holte and lower and middle trinity, which are sold out bar a handful of seats, so looks like they've opened the upper holte which has tons of availability.
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Can't find anything on the OS but is it on Villa TV?
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I don't think it is, I couldn't see anything either. Maybe Villareal will be streaming it for their fans?
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Yeah I just saw, they are, so will turn up somewhere watchable I suspect.
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Yeah I just saw, they are, so will turn up somewhere watchable I suspect.
A decent IPTV provider is your friend.
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Anyone know if the Holte Suite is open tonight...don;t want to turn up early to find out its closed in this weather!
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Can't find anything on the OS but is it on Villa TV?
I bought the tickets a couple of days after they went on sale and when i couldnt get my normal seats i assumed we had sold out the upper holte - been telling everyone we will have a huge crowd ever since....feel a bit silly now. Hope the lower holte is warm, least in the standing days you could all snuggle up...i remember it snowing in the last season of the old holte playing Sheffield Wednesday and it was very cold!
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Can't find anything on the OS but is it on Villa TV?
I bought the tickets a couple of days after they went on sale and when i couldnt get my normal seats i assumed we had sold out the upper holte - been telling everyone we will have a huge crowd ever since....feel a bit silly now. Hope the lower holte is warm, least in the standing days you could all snuggle up...i remember it snowing in the last season of the old holte playing Sheffield Wednesday and it was very cold!
I try to sit next to big lads for the warmth. You don't half notice the difference when people leave their seats at half time.
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(https://i.ibb.co/P9fKhN3/Match-Off.jpg) (https://ibb.co/P9fKhN3)
No hand held radios - or mobile phones in those days. You got to the ground and found out.
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No hand held radios - or mobile phones in those days. You got to the ground and found out.
Like driving to all the way to QPR for instance or pulling our mates car over and legging it along the hard shoulder of the M56 from ours to relay the news that the match at Newton Heath was off.
Dressed as a Nun.
To add insult to injury, over a pint in the Swan on the A4576, we found out that the match had been called off while we were in the fancy dress shop in Hall Green.
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I was at Bolton a few seasons ago in Siberian type conditions. It was most unpleasant and we bastard lost.
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I braved the elements vs Stoke City (A).
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I was at Bolton a few seasons ago in Siberian type conditions. It was most unpleasant and we bastard lost.
That was the coldest I have ever been, colder than Moscow.
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Is this going to be on anywhere, does anybody know?
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I was at Bolton a few seasons ago in Siberian type conditions. It was most unpleasant and we bastard lost.
That was the coldest I have ever been, colder than Moscow.
Sun was shining in Manchester during the day then it closed in horribly once we got to Bolton. Grim.
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The Bolton game was vile, but I think Anfield was colder as it was in the evening. No snow though.
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The Bolton game was vile, but I think Anfield was colder as it was in the evening. No snow though.
Anfield in winter is always Baltic, I remember being there on a Sunday in the late eighties early nineties. Don’t think I’ve ever been colder!
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We had a minibus from Bournemouth for the Bolton game. How we got home is still a miracle. Certainly the coldest game I've ever been to.
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Is this going to be on anywhere, does anybody know?
Goltelevision.com, apparently. Don't know if it's geo-blocked, though.
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Any team news??
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Even our opponents have noticed it's a bit nippy atm. https://twitter.com/VillarrealCFen/status/1603107773809500160
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Any team news??
https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1603468412105199627?cxt=HHwWlsC4gc-B1cAsAAAA
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Team News
(https://i.ibb.co/6nG76rH/DC2-C7-D71-EACE-4-FFC-B200-F6-AC947733-DD.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6nG76rH)
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Strong team for a friendly. Looking forward to seeing what this A. Young fellow is like, apparently he made a bit of an impression during the trip to Dubai.
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No Sanson anywhere to be seen.
He's not injured, or they'd have just said "he's injured" rather than "not available for selection".
Must have a move lined up for Jan 1st.
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Pepe Reina lives!
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Strong team for a friendly. Looking forward to seeing what this A. Young fellow is like, apparently he made a bit of an impression during the trip to Dubai.
That's the first team minus those that played in the World Cup or are injured.
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Pepe Reina lives!
I wonder if he'll have his tracky bottoms on, the big wuss.
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Is this going to be on anywhere, does anybody know?
Goltelevision.com, apparently. Don't know if it's geo-blocked, though.
It is geoblocked. You'll need a VPN pointing at a Spanish server
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https://twitter.com/XEPL333/status/1603466788418691072?s=20&t=VwZpYAYOhqNJXA-sExMuHA
working well so far. everyone looks very cold
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Hesgoal's been resurrected.
Moved to Montenegro
.me
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Thanks TV!
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Ollie hesitant and ineffective in his first chance sends it tamely wide
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Nice possession football so far
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Achachacha achachacha Tyrone Meeeeengs!
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You can definitely see that we look more comfortable on the ball. Digne has seen the ball a lot
Ooooh chance for our big striker Tyrone Mings
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Buendia no gloves
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looks bastard freezing down there; glad I haven't gone :D
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Trying to see if Ash is secretly wearing his snood
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Mings excellent chance, but wide
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Ollie showing us he has the touch of a man with feet the shape of a hexagon
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https://twitter.com/XEPL333/status/1603466788418691072?s=20&t=VwZpYAYOhqNJXA-sExMuHA
working well so far. everyone looks very cold
I can never watch any of these streams ☹️
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Shocker, Watkins offside.
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Ollie showing us he has the touch of a man with feet the shape of a hexagon
No change there, then.
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Nice finish but offside by Ollie.
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Watkins needs to sharpen up or he'll be off - he's not shown much this past 12 months
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Watkins offside after hitting the net
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Shocker, Watkins offside.
Another lovely opportunity created by Buendia wasted
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Cornality.
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Playing some nice stuff.
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Watkins so brain dead.
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We look really good, the way we play is totally unrecognisable to the Gerrard era rabble. Already.
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Buendia no gloves
They make them tough in Argentina.
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Drinks break on account of the heat.
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We are just missing some genuine quality. We have players who are clearly better than we have shown collectively. The signs are positive. Add some genuine quality, coupled with the coaching and management will only help the whole club
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I'm quite enjoying this for a friendly.
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Is Pepe going to start a sing song of la bamba to keep everyone warm
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We are markedly more structurally sound and tactically disciplined than under the former clown
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Ollie with an El Ghazi, straight at the keeper.
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Fuck me, Dougie shoots every corner now.
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Fuck me, Dougie shoots every corner now.
Did it hit the bar or post?
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We are still lacking in the opposing penalty area
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My sources of water seem to have frozen. Can anybody assist please?
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My sources of water seem to have frozen. Can anybody assist please?
Try the link via Twitter I provided earlier. It’s been excellent
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Off the bar. Close by Emi
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Mcginn bar, rebound barely hit by Ollie... jeez
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should have been a penalty.
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Jesus, that terror pass from Olsen to the defender with men applying pressure
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Ollie is much more effective as a support forward playing off a main striker. Ings is by far the better option up front with the right supply line
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Jesus, that terror pass from Olsen to the defender with men applying pressure
I’d swap him right now for Pepe Reina even if he is 40
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Goal for them ruled out. Offside
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My sources of water seem to have frozen. Can anybody assist please?
Try the link via Twitter I provided earlier. It’s been excellent
Doesn't work for me for some reason but thanks anyway.
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Kamara’s pass completion rate must be close to 100% every game
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There’s a bloke in the crowd just wearing a t shirt. I mean FFS
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My sources of water seem to have frozen. Can anybody assist please?
Try the link via Twitter I provided earlier. It’s been excellent
Doesn't work for me for some reason but thanks anyway.
Have you tried hesGoal ?
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Good reaction save by Olsen.
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Ollie is much more effective as a support forward playing off a main striker. Ings is by far the better option up front with the right supply line
He's a nice lad and works hard, but he's a perfect example of the sort of player we need to improve upon
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There’s a bloke in the crowd just wearing a t shirt. I mean FFS
Ooooh the guy who wants show his mates “look at how hard I am”.
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Ollie is much more effective as a support forward playing off a main striker. Ings is by far the better option up front with the right supply line
He's a nice lad and works hard, but he's a perfect example of the sort of player we need to improve upon
As our main forward we are guaranteed to never progress. Hard working, honest, all those positive adjectives. But he lacks the required quality to be a top footballer.
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i have just looked on utube
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There’s a bloke in the crowd just wearing a t shirt. I mean FFS
Ooooh the guy who wants show his mates “look at how hard I am”.
Nah, if he was that hard, he'd be naked!
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There’s a bloke in the crowd just wearing a t shirt. I mean FFS
Ooooh the guy who wants show his mates “look at how hard I am”.
Nah, if he was that hard, he'd be naked!
That’s just stupid fat Newcastle fans. Even we’re not that dumb. Stupid yes, just not to that extent
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Ollie is much more effective as a support forward playing off a main striker. Ings is by far the better option up front with the right supply line
He's a nice lad and works hard, but he's a perfect example of the sort of player we need to improve upon
As our main forward we are guaranteed to never progress. Hard working, honest, all those positive adjectives. But he lacks the required quality to be a top footballer.
We either play to his strengths or don't play him at all.
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There’s a bloke in the crowd just wearing a t shirt. I mean FFS
If you don't take your coat off you won't feel the benefit.
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It's not about his strengths - he's a striker who gets into scoring positions and repeatedly fluffs his lines.
I am not sure how we're meant to play in a way that makes that problem go away. Unless we just don't expect him to score at all, in which case, fine.
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It's not about his strengths - he's a striker who gets into scoring positions and repeatedly fluffs his lines.
Yup. I see him as one in five striker, he needs 5 attempts a game to score where a quality attacker would bury the lot.
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My sources of water seem to have frozen. Can anybody assist please?
Try the link via Twitter I provided earlier. It’s been excellent
Doesn't work for me for some reason but thanks anyway.
Have you tried hesGoal ?
www.
hesgoal.
me
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Only change is Marschall for Olsen
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There, VPN and golplay site - no sign up, just works
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Bloody bell Ollie
BLOODY HELL OLLIE AGAIN
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There’s a bloke in the crowd just wearing a t shirt. I mean FFS
I know someone who used to take his coat off during the game, put it back on at half time, then take it off again. It's probably him.
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Bloody bell Ollie
Not very good striker
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There, VPN and golplay site - no sign up, just works
Quality picture too
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There, VPN and golplay site - no sign up, just works
Quality picture too
Excellent
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30 million quid for watkins ffs
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Tonev!!!
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Peak Watkins there
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Comedy stuff from Ollie
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My sources of water seem to have frozen. Can anybody assist please?
Try the link via Twitter I provided earlier. It’s been excellent
Doesn't work for me for some reason but thanks anyway.
Have you tried hesGoal ?
www.
hesgoal.
me
I think this site has been suspended in the last week or so.
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Get Cam on or Ings
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£30m fucking hell, can't even manage the basics.
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Okay, give ollie the hook and get someone else in there.
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If Watkins is still a starter come 01 Feb, I’ll eat my hat.
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I see subs preparing
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my lord, get the feck up already. It's a bloody friendly, stop trying to sell the foul you clowns.
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have they come for a point??
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all kinds of changes. Ings for Ollie the main one. Good to see Matty and Leo out there
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C’mon Villa give the fans who are freezing their balls off (even the women) a goal or two to shout about
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Good shot Danny. Saved by Pepe
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If Watkins is still a starter come 01 Feb, I’ll eat my hat.
Save me a bite.
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who is at the back with Bedinak?
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who is at the back with Bedinak?
Chambers
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who is at the back with Bedinak?
Chambers
ahh thanks, missed that
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Hope they don’t bring on Diego Forlan
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Good shot Danny. Saved by Pepe
Straight at the GK to be fair (Ings did, however, control the ball)
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Kaylen Young on
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0-1
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Balls 1-0 them
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Bit of casual fucking about at the back there.
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Calum Chambers providing more evidence why he isn’t a starter
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Chambers basically passed it straight to their man.
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Calum Chambers providing more evidence why he isn’t a starter
I'd like to know how Watkins is. Must be amazing in training.
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Calum Chambers providing more evidence why he isn’t a starter
I'd like to know how Watkins is. Must be amazing in training.
I think it’s mainly his energy and work rate. The end product is really lacking
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What the fuck was Chambers doing?
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Think we'll class tgatcasxa collective og.
Sometimes you've just got to hoof it.
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Still plenty of things to work on and Emery will sort it.
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Raikhy looks intelligent with the ball
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Think we'll class tgatcasxa collective og.
Sometimes you've just got to hoof it.
Excellent use of Basque, though I think Villareal is in Catalonia!
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Finished 0-1
We were easily the better team but two concerns.
1. Fucking about at the back too much again. Too often.
2. Don't create enough chances to be able to support such a blunt instrument as Watkins. Blatantly not up to it.
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Quality striker(s) incoming in January?
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We have one on the bench that rarely gets an opportunity. Hope he goes out on loan in January.
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I genuinely have no idea what Villareal were doing for most of the match or expecting to get out of this friendly. They showed nothing.
Nonetheless, we were clearly the better side. Comfortable for most of the match, and I'll credit Buendia for running his boots off today. I don't care who it is or how much it costs, but we need a proper striker. Ollie seems like a great guy but my lord, how many chances can you get at this level? It still stuns me every time I see a ball bounce off his shin or he is standing 1v1 with a defender and manages to lose his dribble, an unforced error. How can you get to the PL?! Even with Diego Carlos on the mend, we could probably use a CB too.
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A decent back-up GK is a must.
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To be fair, both Watkins and Ings scored during their last starts in a proper match. As did Archer I imagine (unless I'm wrong and he's started a game since Barrow which I've forgotten).
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A decent back-up GK is a must.
Absolutely. Defenders need to be confident that they can pass it back to and receive it from a competent goalkeeper. He’s a decent shot stopper but an absolute nightmare positionally and with the ball at his feet.
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Think we'll class tgatcasxa collective og.
Sometimes you've just got to hoof it.
Excellent use of Basque, though I think Villareal is in Catalonia!
It is in the Valencian community.
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Fooking friendlies in mid-December, just home and it will take me till xmas day to thaw out.
Other than that, nice passing, need to have a shot now and again.
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Think we'll class tgatcasxa collective og.
Sometimes you've just got to hoof it.
Excellent use of Basque, though I think Villareal is in Catalonia!
It is in the Valencian community.
My mistake.
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Smash and grab by them. Lesson to be learnt there.
Also, if it wasn’t already obvious enough, Watkins is not good enough for where we want to be.
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The cold was our 12th man today.
We were the better team, but we just don’t have that clinical finish. I know why managers like Watkins, but the reality is he has had two decent seasons as a striker in his entire career. He’s not a natural or instinctive finisher and all the work rate and pressing in the world isn’t going to change that.
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Think my core temperature dropped by about 4 degrees last night.
Watkins doesn’t look an instinctive striker. There were moments when we were attacking that he had his back to play looking for a position to move to.
There was a first time cross in the first half by Digne where a proper centre forward gambles and has a simple header.
However, I wonder if he will be moved wider and asked to work the left, his work rate is high. The goal was a comedy of errors and came after our first six subs.
Kayden Young looks a class act - 16, And the opposition put two on him! Also the cameo by Raikhy was decent.
Thought it was a good workout against quality opposition.
Queue for the coffee at half time was around the bar and along in the lower Trinity, so missed the start of the second half.
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You can see that we're trying to use the ball better, but we really don't have the players for faffing around at the back. And nobody will ever convince me that Watkins is good enough for where we want to be.
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I was absolutely freezing last night like others have said I'm still thawing out today.
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Think we'll class tgatcasxa collective og.
Sometimes you've just got to hoof it.
Excellent use of Basque, though I think Villareal is in Catalonia!
It is in the Valencian community.
My mistake.
Some smoke got in my eyes, I couldn't see...
Just for you -
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Wonderful!
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Has anyone mentioned that before kick off the lights were dimmed and there was a minutes silence for the Babbs Mill boys? There wasn't a sound.
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Does anyone know what the attendance was?
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13,500
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13,500
Thank you.
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Has anyone mentioned that before kick off the lights were dimmed and there was a minutes silence for the Babbs Mill boys? There wasn't a sound.
I saw a video of this and it was a proper, old fashioned, could hear a pin drop, silence.
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13,500
Shit support, my lord.
Including my not-bothering arse, of course.
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13,500
All things considered, that was damn good!
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Watching the highlights on VillaTV only reinforced the desperate need for a decent striker. Watkins couldn't hit the proverbial cow's arse with a double bass, let alone a banjo.
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13,500 should surpass the volume of dwellers down the Sty tonight for a League game.
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13,500 should surpass the volume of dwellers down the Sty tonight for a League game.
Much gnashing of teeth at the missing noses not there to witness the return of St Jude
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13,500 should surpass the volume of dwellers down the Sty tonight for a League game.
Much gnashing of teeth at the missing noses not there to witness the return of St Jude
I saw that.
Must be like going back to the run down council house you were brought up in, to find the upstairs has been condemned, and the lower floor is ruled by rats.
He did a circuit of the pitch. "Oooh, Jude, you're so good, you used to play for us and you're now and ENGLAND PLAYER!!!11!!!"
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13,500 should surpass the volume of dwellers down the Sty tonight for a League game.
Much gnashing of teeth at the missing noses not there to witness the return of St Jude
I saw that.
Must be like going back to the run down council house you were brought up in, to find the upstairs has been condemned, and the lower floor is ruled by rats.
He did a circuit of the pitch. "Oooh, Jude, you're so good, you used to play for us and you're now and ENGLAND PLAYER!!!11!!!"
they are completely obsessed. I witnessed one go all teary eyed telling how he had run to console Kane.
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13,500 should surpass the volume of dwellers down the Sty tonight for a League game.
Much gnashing of teeth at the missing noses not there to witness the return of St Jude
I saw that.
Must be like going back to the run down council house you were brought up in, to find the upstairs has been condemned, and the lower floor is ruled by rats.
He did a circuit of the pitch. "Oooh, Jude, you're so good, you used to play for us and you're now and ENGLAND PLAYER!!!11!!!"
they are completely obsessed. I witnessed one go all teary eyed telling how he had run to console Kane.
They are really a special bunch aren't they. Good lord
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Has anyone mentioned that before kick off the lights were dimmed and there was a minutes silence for the Babbs Mill boys? There wasn't a sound.
Thank you for sharing this. God bless all those involved
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13,500 should surpass the volume of dwellers down the Sty tonight for a League game.
Much gnashing of teeth at the missing noses not there to witness the return of St Jude
I saw that.
Must be like going back to the run down council house you were brought up in, to find the upstairs has been condemned, and the lower floor is ruled by rats.
He did a circuit of the pitch. "Oooh, Jude, you're so good, you used to play for us and you're now and ENGLAND PLAYER!!!11!!!"
they are completely obsessed. I witnessed one go all teary eyed telling how he had run to console Kane.
They are really a special bunch aren't they. Good lord
If you think about it, they have had 2 great players in living memory St Jude and Francis , of course they thought Dugary was a legend.
Look at how many greats we can look back on.
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Over £8k raised for the food bank from the two friendlies on VillaTV!
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2022/december/19/villatv-subscribers-raise-over--8-000-for-local-foodbank/ (https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2022/december/19/villatv-subscribers-raise-over--8-000-for-local-foodbank/)
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Shame the club couldn't have matched the funding to double the total.