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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on October 16, 2022, 01:02:45 PM
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Start Archer you massive fanny.
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Ings and Watkins, no Phil or Buendia.
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Same old, same old. But with even less creativity, if that were possible.
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4-4-2, McGinn left, Bailey right.
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Archer not with the squad so maybe still has a slight injury.
Going back to the proven Watkings partnership up top.
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Fuck me, that selection is a cry for help.
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Start Archer you massive fanny.
I'm sure he said he was fit in his press conference....
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Start Archer you massive fanny.
I'm sure he said he was fit in his press conference....
He said he still wasn’t quite right.
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Yeah but what about Archer?
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Same old, same old. :'(
Least it's a nice day for the owners...
0-3, and swarms to leave before the end.
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Ings and Watkins. Jeepers. It's almost as though he *wants* to get the sack.
Thought: perhaps he does. Massive payout then a lucrative pundit slot for Qatar.
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So whats the formation?
3 up front (watkins and ings wide)
or is it 442?
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Ings and Watkins. I mean, c’mon, I can’t even, you know, really. Fucking hell.
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Does he realise we have a 25 man squad for a reason??? FFS
Same old shit
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The front three is an interesting choice. The players at Forest didn’t do enough so I can see why he changed it.
McGinn needs dropping.
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Gotta love a bench with 0 attackers.
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I think I’d rather have Snodgrass and Adomah over Watkins and Bailey.
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It did seem the day to bring Dendonker into the midfield, push Ramsey wide like we did against Man City and bench Buendia and Coutinho. I didn't count on Ings being re-animated instead of the extra body in the middle. He'll live or die on that hill.
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Does McGinn have to start every game? I know he's captain, but do....
I can't be bothered. Where's the creativity?
Chilwell or Mount to score and do some sort of ridiculous hand gesture type celebration that Grealish will no doubt copy if he scores again before April.
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Excellent
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Glad I’m missing this one. Good luck everyone, I’m having a long boozy lunch in Lisbon.
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We'll probably win now.
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It did seem the day to bring Dendonker into the midfield, push Ramsey wide like we did against Man City and bench Buendia and Coutinho. I didn't count on Ings being re-animated instead of the extra body in the middle. He'll live or die on that hill.
Yeah - why buy Dendonker if hes not going to play him in games like this
Dont get the line up - which normally translate to us being brilliant so fingers crossed
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Glad I’m missing this one. Good luck everyone, I’m having a long boozy lunch in Lisbon.
I think I'll have a whole bottle of warm sake.
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Boycotting today's game in a protest about Gerrard.
It definitely isn't because I'm hung over, honest.
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What a lovely day on the inter...
Good Lord!
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Didn't Gerrard say in his presser that Archer may have to have an op but it's being put-off/they're unsure when to do it?
Maybe it's been decided to bring it forward or maybe he has genuine discomfort there. He would almost certainly be on the bench if he felt ok to play.
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Like Ings and Watkins ever works.
Besides who is going to supply them? It won't be the midfield 3 he's chosen.
Anyway come on the Villa boys!
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Ings and Watkins. Fucking hell.
Reckon he’s decided to go for the pay off.
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Gotta love a bench with 0 attackers.
Well if Archer isn’t fit enough then we don’t have any other out-and-out strikers. Coutinho and Buendia are front three forward players though.
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Gotta love a bench with 0 attackers.
Well if Archer isn’t fit enough then we don’t have any other out-and-out strikers. Coutinho and Buendia are front three forward players though.
Which makes little sense starting with Ings who can’t last longer than 50 minutes
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He really wants the sack. Why buy Dendonka and not play him in a game like this. He had the players but just no fucking idea of a decent formation.
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Glad I’m missing this one. Good luck everyone, I’m having a long boozy lunch in Lisbon.
I think I'll have a whole bottle of warm sake.
While muttering "For fcuk sake" every 5 minutes watching the game?
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Ings and Watkins, why? Surely the game for Dendonker to come in and push Ramsey forward.
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I was hoping we'd play a 4-6-0. Today was the day for a double midfield-triplet with Morgan, Marvelous and Dendonx providing more protection.
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Gotta love a bench with 0 attackers.
Well if Archer isn’t fit enough then we don’t have any other out-and-out strikers. Coutinho and Buendia are front three forward players though.
Which makes little sense starting with Ings who can’t last longer than 15 minutes
FIXED
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I bet Bednarek is glad he came to start games to get into the Poland squad.
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Loving tuning in to the Villa v Chelsea game and listening Virgil Van Dyke - was a late signing in the last window?
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What I like is that he uses the week to ponder on what has gone wrong previously and needs improving currently and makes adjustments and little tactical decisions that make you realise they are working on different things during the week rather than keeping spewing out the same things bi-weekly. This Ings and Watkins partnership could just work and the McGinn as part of a 3 could be a masterstroke.
I think we'll get something from the game today.
A corner.
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Gotta love a bench with 0 attackers.
Well if Archer isn’t fit enough then we don’t have any other out-and-out strikers. Coutinho and Buendia are front three forward players though.
I class them as creative midfielders more than attackers. This is why i'd have kept one of Trez or AEG, far from perfect but you at least felt when they came on there was a goal in them.
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When will Gerrard learn that with McGinn in midfield we will never improve? This blindness to the weak links in our team are going to keep costing us. This is a free hit for Gerrard and he will waste it. Bottom 3 here we come!
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Ings and Watkins. Fucking hell.
Reckon he’s decided to go for the pay off.
At least I went for it, he will say! Strange side he's picked. Lazy Bailey is like playing with one less unless we get the ball to him all the time, can't see that with this midfield either.
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Same midfield 3 yet again, why buy Dendoncker ? Sanson and Nakamba warming the bench forever with hardly any chance of any game time.
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Another game where we are going to use Underpants Gnomes tactics and nothing else.
Step 1. Do crosses
Step 2. ?
Step 3. Score goals
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Shit or bust by the look of it.
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Good grief that’s a horror show. Oh well win please.
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Another game where we are going to use Underpants Gnomes tactics and nothing else.
Step 1. Do crosses
Step 2. ?
Step 3. Score goals
Sounds about right.
Billy McBingo rehashed.
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Shit or bust by the look of it.
That's my reading of it Ez.
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Gotta love a bench with 0 attackers.
Well if Archer isn’t fit enough then we don’t have any other out-and-out strikers. Coutinho and Buendia are front three forward players though.
Surely there's someone in the under-23s who could get on the bench instead of midfielders who won't get a runout short of nuclear war.
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He’s just said on sky it’s to improve us in the final third and make us more potent. Agree with that. Then he went on to say other than that performances have been good. Strangely I disagree with that.
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Sorry for the cliche but it screams of rearranging the deckchairs on the titanic.
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I just think whatever shape that midfield is it’s horribly unbalanced. The front two then just don’t work.
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Well the line-up looks turd and we're all expecting to get thumped.
So we'll probably end up putting in our best performance of the season.
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Very relaxed about todays game. I don’t expect anything so I won’t be too disappointed.
Might even lead to the hapless Scouser being sacked so….
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I wonder if Watkins will do anything today like maybe score a goal?
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He’s just said on sky it’s to improve us in the final third and make us more potent. Agree with that. Then he went on to say other than that performances have been good. Strangely I disagree with that.
Strikers won't improve us in the final third. Having a system that creates chances will.
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Broadcast is showing it’s a 4-4-2 with a diamond in the midfield and Bailey behind the strikers..?
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Come on you lacklustre fuckers
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I reckon it'll be a Man City type good performance, maybe even somehow fluking a win. It'll keep the crowd onside and him in a job for a little while longer.
Like others have said, when it all looks like a total clusterfuck sometimes we pop out with something.
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We've bossed the first minute.
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Good start
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He’s going to expect those two full backs to once again provide the creativity. It’s going to be lump down the middle and overlapping full backs who will deliver poor crosses. We have John “stop look up lofty pass” McGinn to send predictable balls to the opponents for 90 minutes. It’s going to be a tough watch.
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Shot on target already
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We've bossed the first minute.
Ha!
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Hoooffff!!
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Decent start.
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Chelsea score
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Fucking hell
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So it begins.
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Mings. FFS.
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Here we go.
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Well that's his world cup fucked
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Bugger and bollocks.
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Fucking hell
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Hahaha fuck me
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It was a good six minutes.
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we’re gonna get wiped.
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There's Gerrard's scapegoat for the day sorted.
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That is a remarkably bad mistake by Mings.
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Bloody hell Mingsy
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Well that one isn't on Gerrard. Fucking hell, Mings!
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Agent Tyrone doing fine work
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Fucking Mings
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It’s clear Mings wants Gerrard gone. Great lay up by him - not a surprise really
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What a fucking disaster. Mings, who has played really well lately is good for one of those every so often.
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There's Gerrard's scapegoat for the day sorted.
In fairness, we can criticise the manager all we want what can he do when a player does that?
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Mings. WTAF.
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Well. That was truly dreadful.
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My stream is 0-0 still. There is hope.
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Mings clearly doesn't want Gerrard here much longer either.
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Glen Whelan moment
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Fucking hell Mings!
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Fucking disgraceful defending.
Mings brain fart.
Can’t blame Gerrard for that one 🤣
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Mings clearly doesn't want Gerrard here much longer either.
he couldn’t have done that any better if he tried 👎🏽
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Hard enough to begin without gifted them a sitter . We never get anything like that ...we are cursed
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Hard enough to begin without gifted them a sitter . We never get anything like that ...we are cursed
First goal in the 7-2.
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Watkins down injured
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I wonder what look Mings will have in his eyes when he's watching Gerrard clear his desk.
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Kovacic is in the Chelsea side to disrupt. Why the fuck don't we have one of those in our midfielder. Appreciate that Kamara is injured but why not give Dendonker a crack?
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Feel sorry for Mings hes been decent this Season but will be tarred with the usual brush.
Best thing he can do is go and put one in the other end.
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Well he'll just have to score at the other end to atone
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Tyrone outdoes himself. He's had some howlers in his time here but that might be the cream of the crop. Most frustratingly it's been off the back of him playing fairly well this season. It's like he's been saving that little doozy up.
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Had to be that fucker, Mount.
And Mings.....dear dear dear
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Normal service has been resumed. The Villa players kook laboured, Bailey will disappear up his own arse.
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The goal https://twitter.com/eurofootcom/status/1581633615678803969
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We look like we’ve given up.
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Hard enough to begin without gifted them a sitter . We never get anything like that ...we are cursed
First goal in the 7-2.
seems centuries ago
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Kovacic is in the Chelsea side to disrupt. Why the fuck don't we have one of those in our midfielder. Appreciate that Kamara is injured but why not give Dendonker a crack?
Or Marv the destroyer.
It was a shocking effort from Ramsey to stop Chilwell crossing, but that's one for the Mings howler scrapbook. And yet I still like him more than Gerrard.
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Southgate turning up to watch Mings
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Hopeful punts up field. I wonder if Big Sam is watching on and nodding with approval. Although he'd probably bemoan a lack of brick shithouses in our side.
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Bailey hits the woodwork
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Ffs Bailey.
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Sitter.
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Bit better just.
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Hot bar
Cursed
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Ffs Bailey.
Just too high for him
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Leeds-Arse match stopped and players taken off the pitch because VAR connection isn't working. That will be a massive nail in it if the match is fully called off.
Anyone know where the connection box is near Villa Park?
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Better by us. Unlucky. If Bailey was a little taller
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We've still got 75 minutes to sit through zzzz
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We look like we’ve given up.
I think the effort is there.. three in the midfield with Ollie and Ings in front of them just doesn’t work.
Mings should be clearing that ball all day but the spin on it was gnarly. Hopefully 1 doesn’t turn into 2, then into 3..
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Hard enough to begin without gifted them a sitter . We never get anything like that ...we are cursed
First goal in the 7-2.
seems centuries ago
Villa have screwed up an awful lot since that night with unforced errors. Please fix it tomorrow.
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Weirdly we haven’t played that badly. Don’t look like scoring though.
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Ffs Bailey.
Just too high for him
Could be doing him a disservice but it didn't look like he got off the floor enough.
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Sitter.
Do we mean that header? Hardly.
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This is the usual shower of shit, can't be bothered shite. Need to get amongst them. I'd be tempted to make an early sub to shake the fuckers up.
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Are the owners there today?
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Every time I hear Curcerella I start humming La Curcaracha
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Given that we get a full back injured every game, would it not have been a good idea to have one on the bench?
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So turgid and slow.
We are entirely without creative spark. Again.
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I'm starting to think that we might not qualify for the Champions League this season.
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How did we not score!
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Fucking Hell.
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Omg
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How didn't someone score just?
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How did we not score??
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Opportunity for a break, lose momentum, back to centre half. Terrible.
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Fucking hell how didn’t we score there?
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Typical
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Better, keep up the momentum. Chase them down!
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Fuck knows how we didn’t score there.
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How did we not score! 😔
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Ain't difference in the teams at mome
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All that chasing the ball up front will see Ings knackered.
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Going forward we look ok
So stop going back bailey
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Ings made no effort to get back onside.
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Going forward we look ok
So stop going back bailey
Right. Pretty sure Gerrard isn’t telling him to do that either.
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Better so far.
Still nothing to show for it. But the tempo is better at times.
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Bailey would be better off on the other side....down the tunnel.
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Ffs McGinn.
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Mcginn pass the fucker
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We've actually been the better side so far.
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My goodness how wasteful have we been?
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McGinn’s inability to pass or shoot is remarkable.
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Going forward we look ok
So stop going back bailey
Right. Pretty sure Gerrard isn’t telling him to do that either.
That's really not how it works. When players are constantly turning back and playing it safe there's 2 'normal' causes:
They've bveen given shit for giving the bal laway too often and and playing safe.
They're waiting for movement and, when it doesn't happen, they recycle possession.
I suspect both are true of Bailey right now.
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On his weak foot, tight angle he decided to shoot with Ings in the middle. Fuck me
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We totally lack composure when we get it in dangerous areas.
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We've been decent, deserve to be level.
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Cucurella our man of the match so far
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I'm sick of the sight of McGinn.
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Their keeper is playing a blinder. Of course
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Now above the relegation zone on goal difference.
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Cucurella our man of the match so far
£50m. Good grief
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Watkins and that legendary first touch there
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Watkins just hit it
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Another save ffs
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Holy fuck. What a save.
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Playing fucking Lev Yashin as usual.
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Watkins and that legendary first touch there
Imagine if that was Ivan Toney instead.
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We will not score ever
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This smacks of the Spurs game last season.
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Looks like we're doomed not to score today.
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fuck off Kepa
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All over them but losing is the worst possible result.
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Why does Gordon banks have to play today
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Stunning save though
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It’s a good save, but fucking hell Ings you’ve got to score.
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50 attempts to score a single goal.
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Chilwell booked
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In fairness it has been all us. This will the Spurs game all over again
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It’s a good save, but fucking hell Ings you’ve got to score.
Yep, very good save but Ings needed to do better.
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Now that's a sitter
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Damn we have looked good
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In fairness it has been all us. This will the Spurs game all over again
Post thief!!!
This smacks of the Spurs game last season.
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Kepa the Clown picks today of all days to actually do something decent. Typical.
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That’s a terrible challenge
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Their keeper, usually more like Bozo the clown between the sticks, is playing like Nick Pope in a Burnley shirt against us. ffs.
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In fairness it has been all us. This will the Spurs game all over again
Post thief!!!
This smacks of the Spurs game last season.
Consider my plagiarism as flattery
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That’s a red card. How the fuck was that not given as dangerous play?
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In fairness it has been all us. This will the Spurs game all over again
If only we'd been playing like this all season he wouldn't be under threat of being sacked.
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That’s a red. He caught him with every one of his studs on the ankle.
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That’s a terrible challenge
I think it should have been a red.
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Chilwell you dirty fucker.
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That’s a red card
It's one that's right between a red and yellow for me, could easily have gone.
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In fairness it has been all us. This will the Spurs game all over again
If only we'd been playing like this all season he wouldn't be under threat of being sacked.
I don’t get it. We have players better than our position. There is no excuse for not attacking sides but we play this stupid slow conservative style most of the time and it doesn’t work. Yet today we are showing we can play a fast high press game against the best sides.
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Free kick aside Bailey has been good.
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That’s a terrible challenge
Bad challenge, though I think Ramsey slightly overdid the rolling about.
Looking much more dangerous, but we completely lack any composure and confidence up front
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Chilwell is a prick.
Bailey, fuck me. Absymal
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I think its one of those where if the ref sends him off VAR don't overturn it either
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That’s a terrible challenge
Bad challenge, though I think Ramsey slightly overdid the rolling about.
Looking much more dangerous, but we completely lack any composure and confidence up front
They looked at the challenge on replay. It was a straight footed, studs challenge to his ankle. I can only imagine how much that would have hurt.
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Set piece coach earning his corn I see.
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Bailey is not doing what the set-piece lad has told him to do. FFS!
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Watkins ffs
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soft soft 'foul'
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Bailey s looking good to ge fair
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If we played like this on a regular basis i'd be giving Gerrard a hell of a lot less stick.
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In fairness it has been all us. This will the Spurs game all over again
If only we'd been playing like this all season he wouldn't be under threat of being sacked.
I don’t get it. We have players better than our position. There is no excuse for not attacking sides but we play this stupid slow conservative style most of the time and it doesn’t work. Yet today we are showing we can play a fast high press game against the best sides.
It's weird isn't it, our squad is much better suited to this but instead he seems determined to have us play like Man City despite not having any idea how to implement that style.
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Just one word - Watkins. WTAF.
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Midfield three have been very good. Bailey looks a real threat too.
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Sterling clips the bar
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If we played like this on a regular basis i'd be giving Gerrard a hell of a lot less stick.
I don’t know about you, but I perform a lot better at work when the owner is over my shoulder.
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Sterling hits bar
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Mings weak
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Watkins bloody awful
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Christ watkins is fucking utter wank
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Mings weak
?????
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I think we’ve looked good despite gifting them that goal. Best performance for weeks.
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Didn't know Shalamar was playing for Chelsea. Great band.
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We’ve tried to play it quickly and our movement off the ball has been excellent. The mistake aside you’d think we would be side wiping the floor against our current opponent
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I think we’ve looked good despite gifting them that goal. Best performance for weeks.
On the mount challenge before sterling hit barc
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We have played pretty well, but we’re not going to score.
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Any sign of the owners there?
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Any sign of the owners there?
They're caught up in the beer queue
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HT. We've been much the better side.
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We have played pretty well, but we’re not going to score.
We will still likely lose this 2 or 3 nil. Our profligacy will be our undoing
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Bloody ref's giving them the benefit most of the time.
If we had an in form forward line we'd be coasting.
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Loftus Cheek is trash.
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Loftus Cheek is trash.
Another bullet dodged
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Ings should have scored by now.
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That was a pretty good performance - interesting to see what happens - hopefully they will be just as bad in the s find half
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That’s a brilliant first half, can’t fault the effort and also chances we’ve made.
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We were very good in that first half, certainly better than Chelsea. Just a shame Mings had to produce one of his massive unforced clangers.
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The early goal against meant the handbrake was off for the team, and we played some decent football at times creating chances against on paper a better team.
Come on Villa.
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Played really well, should be leading. Why haven't we played like this before?
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I can only imagine Chelsea will improve 2nd half so I fear we've missed our opportunity to get back in the game first half.
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The double concern is, can we play that well second half, and can they play that badly.
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To be fair a fantastic response against a good side. But for some terrible decision making, a couple of fantastic saves and us turning two twenty-a-season forwards into pedestrians we'd be pissing this now.
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Contrary to rumours neither of the owners are here.
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Chelsea can make five subs to sort out their dodgy defence. We're not going to have another 20 minute spell like that again, we've missed our chance to win this.
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Contrary to rumours neither of the owners are here.
Can’t really blame them
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Contrary to rumours I started neither of the owners are here.
FTFY ;)
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Contrary to rumours I started neither of the owners are here.
FTFY ;)
Sorry, lost me there.
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Two mistakes leading directly to goals in two games for Mings.
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Disappointing the owners aren’t there again
Kind of adds to the concern they have lost interest
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Disappointing the owners aren’t there again
Kind of adds to the concern they have lost interest
They’re not the only ones.
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Thankfully Sterling's effort didn't go in, otherwise it would have been game over, as it stands we can still win this one.
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Two mistakes leading directly to goals in two games for Mings.
I don't remember him being any more at fault than anyone else for the Forest goal. I make it one mistake this season.
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Can't complain with the overall performance as its been much improved. However, could someone let our players know that there isn't any law that says we have to hit every shot straight at the keeper? We are allowed to at least aim for the corners of the goal
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Game is going as I expected it to. Unfortunately so is the result so far.
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Two mistakes leading directly to goals in two games for Mings.
I don't remember him being any more at fault than anyone else for the Forest goal. I make it one mistake this season.
Watch the Forest goal again.
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No ta, I remember it being Watkins' fault if one player was to be singled out.
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Contrary to rumours I started neither of the owners are here.
FTFY ;)
Sorry, lost me there.
Wasn't it you earlier in the week saying the owners would be there today?
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Chelsea actually making use of the five subs rule. What is this madness?
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Chelsea are a horrid bunch of ******, as are their fans.
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It seems we only went forward because the crowd were vocal when we were passing it backwards again
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Bloody ref's giving them the benefit most of the time.
If we had an in form forward line we'd be coasting.
This is so true
Spent money on players he don't play , could have got a striker with the money .
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Yeah, thanks for that advantage, ref...
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How shit is Watkins
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Imagine how many goals we might score if Gerrard had bothered his arse signing a proper striker.
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Potter has tweaked it, subbed the players who were underperforming, and normal service is resumed.
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How shit is Watkins
He’s not very good. But when combined with having 0 confidence in front of goal at the moment and a keeper that is having a superb game it’s going to look really, really bad whenever he gets chances
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Potter has tweaked it, subbed the players who were underperforming, and normal service is resumed.
That's what a proper manager does.
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So Alan Smith says Kepas challenge knocks Oli off balance - isn't that a penalty then?
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Stop fucking missing.
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So Alan Smith says Kepas challenge knocks Oli off balance - isn't that a penalty then?
Goalkeepers get away with murder regarding late challenges in the penalty area
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So Alan Smith says Kepas challenge knocks Oli off balance - isn't that a penalty then?
If an outfield player caught the keeper like that it'd definitely be a free kick but you never see thme given the other way.
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We should 3-1 up at the moment
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Stop fucking missing.
We should bring Archer on at some point
Oh…
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We're actually getting players into the penalty area.
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It seems we only went forward because the crowd were vocal when we were passing it backwards again
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Imagine how many goals we might score if Gerrard had bothered his arse signing a proper striker.
Why do we blame Gerrard for this? Lange or, perhaps, owners not wanting the outlay seems more likely.
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Fucking hell Watkins, that was atrocious!
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Championship player olie
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oh Ollie
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Ollie will not score
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I actually think Davies would have been better keeping and loaning Watkins out
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Rivaldo.
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Watkins and Ings trying to outdo each other for missing chances.
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Imagine how many goals we might score if Gerrard had bothered his arse signing a proper striker.
Why do we blame Gerrard for this? Lange or, perhaps, owners not wanting the outlay seems more likely.
If the owners/Lange were buying players Gerrard wasn't asking for to go into the first team squad no one would be happy. We didn't sign a striker, or even really look for one, because Gerrard didn't ask for one.
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Imagine how many goals we might score if Gerrard had bothered his arse signing a proper striker.
Why do we blame Gerrard for this? Lange or, perhaps, owners not wanting the outlay seems more likely.
Considering that we have spent plenty, and Gerrard vetoed us spending another twenty million on a winger, that seems very much not likely. Gerrard has had two transfer windows and decided not to sign a striker. Because he's an idiot.
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We're actually getting players into the penalty area.
It's just a shame that one of them is ollie watkins
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Dirty fucks
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Chelsea will get a player sent off here. We still won't score.
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To be fair, we are still looking the better side. Potter's changes haven't actually improved them much.
I hate to say it, but it does look like we just lack quality - as Gerrard says. *gulp*
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What do we do in training?
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What do we do in training?
Listen to Gerrard telling us what a good player he was?
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Stop fucking missing.
We should bring Archer on at some point
Oh…
He's injured. Gerrard is useless but can't pin that on him.
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What do we do in training?
What do we do in training?
Post smiling faces on Instagram
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I'd take Ollie off for Buendia.
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Stop fucking missing.
We should bring Archer on at some point
Oh…
He's injured. Gerrard is useless but can't pin that on him.
No, but we can in the previous twenty matches where we hasn't picked him.
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I'd take Ollie off for Buendia.
Yep
They did four so far
Us nothing
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I'd take Ollie off for Buendia.
You're allowed to change players?
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Buendia coming on.
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0-2
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Mount again
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Fucking hell
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Game over.
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Game over.
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Thought that was a good free kick but poor from Emi
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Fucking Mings
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Good free kick to be honest
Poor from Martinez
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That’s a stunning goal
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And Watkins still on
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That was very similar to one of our free kicks except that it didn't hit the wall and it went into the goal.
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Buendia on for Bailey
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Mings having a blinder.
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Fuck is Martinez doing?
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What gifts their two goals have been. Jesus.
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Typical. Huff and puff and then that. Compare that to Baileys first half free kick. Game over.
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All over
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Bailey didn't look happy
He was much better than Watkins
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Thank you and good night.
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Fucking Mings
He's still our best defender by a country mile
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Silly tackle from Tyrone, poor from Emi. Lots of effort but still not good enough. That free kick was just a dink over the wall.
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Shocking from Emi, wtf was that.
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Fucking Mings
WTF??? The keeper should have saved that all day long so you can't blame Mings for that
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Bollocks.
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I fucking hate Mount.
Emi, crap
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Bailey off and watkins still on the pitch. Fucking clueless
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Sorry Emi M, you should have done much better there.
Oh well. Another weekend ruined. Should expect it now.
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That’s a stunning goal
Martinez at fault
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That’s a stunning goal
Not really its a mistake from Martinez.
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Ultimately, better than most matches of late, but lots of toil and nothing like enough quality.
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Martinez doing a Grobbs.
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Good teams win even when playing badly, poor one's lose when playing well.
The difference is Chelsea have shown their cutting edge when presented with the chances. We have shown (again) we are terrible in the final third
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WTF was Martinez doing, it was a great hit but that is one weird attempt to save it
https://twitter.com/PremierLeagueSZ/status/1581652787263217664
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Ultimately, better than most matches of late, but lots of toil and nothing like enough quality.
Looks exactly like every match to me. Clinically poor... REPEAT!
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Fuck it. I hate football lately.
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Oh, well. At least us being on an unbeaten run won't be an excuse for not hooking Gerrard.
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That’s a stunning goal
Not really its a mistake from Martinez.
It can be both.
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Can't question the effort today, but we've gifted an off-colour Chelsea two gifts
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Purslow looks happy!
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Son of Southgate at the double.
And there's the horse faced prat watching on in the Trinity.
He must be proud.
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What an absolutely dreadful season this is turning into.
Absolutely devoid of cheer.
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Should have been three there.
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The disappointing thing is that Chelsea have been poor. The have hardly got out of first gear here. Haven't had to.
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Yes! Some live footage of Liverpool players listening to headphones. Thanks, Sky.
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Why the hate for Mount, is it from Southgate constantly picking him over Jack?
He seems a decent young man.
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Be three soon
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Phil on for McGinn
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Why the hate for Mount, is it from Southgate constantly picking him over Jack?
He seems a decent young man.
Yeah, I don't get it.
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That’s a stunning goal
Martinez at fault
He was. Initially it looked a better goal than it was. Emi either didn’t trust the wall which is ultimately his responsibility or he just got the ball flight completely wrong. Two massive errors have cost us this game. And when combined with the number of superb chances we had…well it’s what you have right now. Relegation zone within our grasp
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Jesus Christ, this is just so frustrating.
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But we'll be 10th if we win
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That’s a stunning goal
Not really its a mistake from Martinez.
It can be both.
I'd agree if it was in the top corner but it was pretty much in the centre of the goal. If Martinez had stood still it would of hit him.
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Why the hate for Mount, is it from Southgate constantly picking him over Jack?
He seems a decent young man.
Yeah, I don't get it.
It’s completely irrational. It all stems from when Southgate was picking him as we were calling for Grealish. The two players don’t even play in the same position. Mount is a quality player.
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Gone back to shite mode now
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Why the hate for Mount, is it from Southgate constantly picking him over Jack?
He seems a decent young man.
Opposition players don't normally annoy me but he's got the most punchable face in football, no one comes close.
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Played well TBF.
But no confidence in front of goal.
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That’s a stunning goal
Martinez at fault
He was. Initially it looked a better goal than it was. Emi either didn’t trust the wall which is ultimately his responsibility or he just got the ball flight completely wrong. Two massive errors have cost us this game. And when combined with the number of superb chances we had…well it’s what you have right now. Relegation zone within our grasp
It's frustrating. As always, Chelsea are crap. We are better. But we have gifted them two and made their ClownKeeper look like Spink in '82.
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Set pieces have been really sharp today.
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Played well TBF.
But no confidence in front of goal.
Persisting with Watkins never helped when we had archer .
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Fucking Mings
WTF??? The keeper should have saved that all day long so you can't blame Mings for that
He needlessly gave away the free kick.
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Why the hate for Mount, is it from Southgate constantly picking him over Jack?
He seems a decent young man.
Opposition players don't normally annoy me but he's got the most punchable face in football, no one comes close.
El Haj Duouf?
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Watkins still on 😁
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Dendoncker on for JJ. Nice attacking sub.
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Fucking Mings
WTF??? The keeper should have saved that all day long so you can't blame Mings for that
He needlessly gave away the free kick.
It still shouldn't have lead to a goal.
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Why the hate for Mount, is it from Southgate constantly picking him over Jack?
He seems a decent young man.
Opposition players don't normally annoy me but he's got the most punchable face in football, no one comes close.
El Haj Duouf?
Got to be Vardy for me.
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How is this even a debate in a world in which Jay Rodriguez exists?
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Nonsense subs the last two
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Fuck me, how annoying is it when we do that - fannying about at the back and give away a throw.
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That’s a stunning goal
Martinez at fault
He was. Initially it looked a better goal than it was. Emi either didn’t trust the wall which is ultimately his responsibility or he just got the ball flight completely wrong. Two massive errors have cost us this game. And when combined with the number of superb chances we had…well it’s what you have right now. Relegation zone within our grasp
Looked to me like he misjudged the flight of the ball and took a step to the the right, then realised too it was going to his left and he was in no man's land hence the lack of an attempt to save it.
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Why the hate for Mount, is it from Southgate constantly picking him over Jack?
He seems a decent young man.
Opposition players don't normally annoy me but he's got the most punchable face in football, no one comes close.
El Haj Duouf?
Got to be Vardy for me.
Rebekah?
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Ramsey off for DaDonkey?
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Why does Gerrard never look at using the 4th or 5th sub? Time and time again he makes 3 changes, 1 player at a time, often with only a few minutes between them.
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We have lost much of our momentum after the subs.
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Ramsey off for DaDonkey?
We sold all our wingers so we can't play a different way. Dendonker keeps it at 0.2
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Why does Gerrard never look at using the 4th or 5th sub? Time and time again he makes 3 changes, 1 player at a time, often with only a few minutes between them.
Because he's a twat. Compare the subs Potter made at half time, they've looked much more solid since.
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Why the hate for Mount, is it from Southgate constantly picking him over Jack?
He seems a decent young man.
Opposition players don't normally annoy me but he's got the most punchable face in football, no one comes close.
I'm swaying toward your way of thinking, BV.
He's also one of those random/boring hand gesture goal celebration types.
And he is always rubbish for England, but who cares nowadays, England are rubbish enough with or without son of Southgate.
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We have lost much of our momentum after the subs.
Has Phil slowed us down? Seruous q as not watching
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Bring Buendia and Coutinho on has completely killed our forward progress.. hand brakes on and we’ve got South Americans spinning in circles and Ollie giving the ball away.
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We have lost much of our momentum after the subs.
We lost it, and the match, when gifting them their second goal.
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Have we had a shot on target this half?
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We're back to looking like an uncoached rabble now.
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The traffic must be awful outside Villa Park.
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Why the hate for Mount, is it from Southgate constantly picking him over Jack?
He seems a decent young man.
Opposition players don't normally annoy me but he's got the most punchable face in football, no one comes close.
El Haj Duouf?
Nope nor Bamford, not even Savage back in the day. Of the current crop Harry Kane comes second with his long face and dull monotonous voice, and Stephen Kenny in the managerial ranks.
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Well mings and Watkins ain't going Qatar with horse face here
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I just want this to end. We desperately need a change in manager
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Good grief Buendia
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We're back to looking like an uncoached rabble now.
Do you have any idea what our formation is right now because I'm pretty sure no one on the pitch knows.
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Not sure having the injured players back will make much difference.
This is a rudderless ship.
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Gerrard out still for me
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When asked about Mount's goal Southgate replied, "I thought Grealish had a really good game today."
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Sterling's another one with zero composure. We'll probably sign him next.
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I just want this to end. We desperately need a change in manager
We aren't changing him before the World Cup break unless we get battered. A narrow, battling, defeat with convenient scapegoats is the worst possible result.
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The traffic must be awful outside Villa Park.
We're just missing fans giving an opposition player "the wankers" to complete the BE Bingo card.
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Sterling's another one with zero composure. We'll probably sign him next.
He does look very average.
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Well mings and Watkins ain't going Qatar with horse face here
they both need a sit down on the bench for a few months. Let alone a world cup
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I didn't realise Ings was still on.
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I just want this to end. We desperately need a change in manager
We aren't changing him before the World Cup break unless we get battered. A narrow, battling, defeat with convenient scapegoats is the worst possible result.
If we don’t pickup points against Fulham or Brentford he’s gone.
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Is it me or did we give up
at 2 nil ?
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The traffic must be awful outside Villa Park.
We're just missing fans giving an opposition player "the wankers" to complete the BE Bingo card.
I've been giving Gerrard the wanker's all game.*
*With added apostrophe
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I just want this to end. We desperately need a change in manager
We aren't changing him before the World Cup break unless we get battered. A narrow, battling, defeat with convenient scapegoats is the worst possible result.
If we don’t pickup points against Fulham or Brentford he’s gone.
He should have gone months ago.
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I just want this to end. We desperately need a change in manager
We aren't changing him before the World Cup break unless we get battered. A narrow, battling, defeat with convenient scapegoats is the worst possible result.
If we don’t pickup points against Fulham or Brentford he’s gone.
Agreed, I thought we needed 4 or 5 points from these 3 games so he needs at least a win and a draw in the next two.
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Ultimately for all the huff and puff, a Chelsea side on a bad day have easily beaten us whilst at nothing like their best.
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I didn't realise Ings was still on.
A rare 90 minutes from Ings
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Everyone knows he's going to get sacked, just a case of when.
Horrible cloud over the club at the moment
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We're back to looking like an uncoached rabble now.
Do you have any idea what our formation is right now because I'm pretty sure no one on the pitch knows.
Subs killed us. I wouldn't have taken Bailey off but Buendia coming on and switching to 4312 seems reasonable. After that, it's answers on a postcard as to what Gerrard was trying to do. Taking off McGinn and Ramsey lost us all control in midfield.
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fuck off Chelsea you horrible fucking club
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Ultimately for all the huff and puff, a Chelsea side on a bad day have easily beaten us whilst at nothing like their best.
That's the worrying thing.
A team that did turn up could've beaten us 4/5 zip.
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I used to like Cash, but nowadays he is the hoof master, can't really cross.....that long ball for Buendia to chase then...
I really don't like what he's morphed into under Steven.
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Ultimately for all the huff and puff, a Chelsea side on a bad day have easily beaten us whilst at nothing like their best.
Chelsea are crap and always have been. Even when fluking FA Cup or Champions League wins. I used to live near their ground, I hate them, their fans are also bunch of racist Henry's Cat soundalikes
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I used to like Cash, but nowadays he is the hoof master, can't really cross.....I really don't like what he's morphed into under Steven.
Not one single compartment is working well at the moment.
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I didn't realise Ings was still on.
A rare 90 minutes from Ings
It's safe to say he's been a pretty poor signing.
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Booooooooooooooooooooooo
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Konsa having a good old laugh and joke there.
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Ultimately for all the huff and puff, a Chelsea side on a bad day have easily beaten us whilst at nothing like their best.
The same applied the Man City game. Yes we played well especially in the second half and had chances to win it, but they missed some great chances. On another day that’s a big defeat.
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Has the unbeaten run bought him more games? IMO he needed minimum 4pts from Forest, Chelsea and Fulham, so he needs to win against Fulham. He hasn’t earned the Brentford game and this rate we’ll be giving him until the Brighton game to turn things around. We could be cut adrift in the bottom 3 by the World Cup break if we wait to get rid for too much longer.
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Losing is in our DNA, more so under this clueless idiot
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Konsa having a good old laugh and joke there.
They're just out of touch, aren't they. Konsa gives the impression of being a bit dim.
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Why the hate for Mount, is it from Southgate constantly picking him over Jack?
He seems a decent young man.
Opposition players don't normally annoy me but he's got the most punchable face in football, no one comes close.
Bruno Fernandes? Neymar?
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Contrary to rumours I started neither of the owners are here.
FTFY ;)
Sorry, lost me there.
Wasn't it you earlier in the week saying the owners would be there today?
Was it fuck, quite the opposite! How would anybody know?
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Contrary to rumours I started neither of the owners are here.
FTFY ;)
Sorry, lost me there.
Wasn't it you earlier in the week saying the owners would be there today?
Was it fuck, quite the opposite! How would anybody know?
Somebody said they'd be here today, I thought it was you.
EDIT: Apologies. It was Jon Crofts. I'll have words with him tomorrow.