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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on October 10, 2022, 07:04:27 PM
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I possibly might have gone with Archer and Watkins with either one of Coutinhio or Buendia but otherwise, fairly happy with that.
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Somewhat interestingly, someone that seems a nobody account but claims they often get early team new did post this half an hour before the teams were announced
I believe this is the Villa team for tonight, baring any late changes 👇
1 Emiliano Martínez
2 Matty Cash
4 Ezri Konsa
5 Tyrone Mings
18 Ashley Young
7 John Mcginn
6 Douglas Luiz
10 Emiliano Buendia
23 Philippe Coutinho
41 Jacob Ramsey
11 Ollie Watkins
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Bailey out is a bonus; A. He's rubbish and B It makes him play Buendia.
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Not a fat lot of attacking options if we're behind.
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Oooh picked my side.
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Glad Buendia is starting.
Midfield 3 is still the weak link for me.
Still no Guilbert on the bench
UTV!
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Bailey out is a bonus; A. He's rubbish and B It makes him play Buendia.
Is he injured or has his dad not let him out to play?
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Supposedly a muscle issue, a minor one. So out until August knowing us.
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Win please.
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Oooh picked my side.
That's because you know your stuff. ;) I'm happy with that line-up too.
Think this will be much tougher than people expect but hoping we can bring Cam on later in the game.
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A nice easy 0-3 walk in the park please, Villa.
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So much for all those flapping about 352
Decent line up and I hope we get to see a bit of Archer and maybe Sanson. Sanson not being bombed must be showing good attitude in training which is pleasing
2-0 us
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How many changes have Forest made, I lose track of their massive squad!?
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It bothers me that there's just no real width in that team. Way too narrow. Let's hope that Ollie puts his boots on the right feet tonight. He can't afford to miss anymore sitters. Good to see Buendia given a start he's earned the right.Just win this Villa and please please don't stink the place out.
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A nice easy 0-3 walk in the park please, Villa.
I'd happily take a professional, relatively stress free 1-0 win.
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I didn't realise Grabban and Lolley had left.
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Get rid of the slow build up and move the ball quickly and we’ll be 9th by 10 o’clock. 2-0 Villa, Watkins and Ramsey.
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It bothers me that there's just no real width in that team. Way too narrow. Let's hope that Ollie puts his boots on the right feet tonight. He can't afford to miss anymore sitters. Good to see Buendia given a start he's earned the right.Just win this Villa and please please don't stink the place out.
Isn’t that Young and Cash’s job with McGinn and Dougie filling in at full back.
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132 changes for Forest.
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Think it'll be more of a 4-3-2-1,
McGinn, Luiz and JJ in front of the back 4, with Coutinho and Buendia playing behind of, and in support of Watkins.
Expect to see Ramsey driving forward from midfield with the ball making it a 4-2-3-1 from time to time looking to play 1-2s and get into the box.
Gerrard's been more cautious recently which is why I think he'll err on the side of playing 3 in front of the back 4.
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A fairly steady 0-2.
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Supposedly a muscle issue, a minor one. So out until August knowing us.
Which August might that be ;)
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A win please...
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No reason if we have a plan to attack and move the ball quickly that this Villa side cannot come away with a victory. But if we persist with a slow, laborious, ponderous approach we will create little or anything at all and it will much the same as usual.
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Essentially that is a very strong team....
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Happy with the team, hopefully the skipper will take his Leeds performance into this match and hopefully Cam gets some game time. I see Lingard only makes the bench.
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It bothers me that there's just no real width in that team. Way too narrow. Let's hope that Ollie puts his boots on the right feet tonight. He can't afford to miss anymore sitters. Good to see Buendia given a start he's earned the right.Just win this Villa and please please don't stink the place out.
Isn’t that Young and Cash’s job with McGinn and Dougie filling in at full back.
It was but it isint at the moment.
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As long as we don't see Coutinho hugging the left flank and instead allowed to roam around alongside Emi B we'll be fine. I'm expecting Watkins to get a brace and Get Out of Jail Card for the next few months. An early goal and we could really rip into them. Without that early goal we'll have to go Fight Night and bring them down to our level whilst trying to catch them on the break.
0-4 Villa (Watkins 2, Konza and a non-celebrating Matty Cash). FTF
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Terrible team selection. Once again Steven mixing his arrogance with naive selection. This will not end well.
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Watching in a bar in Cairo with my Chelsea supporting Jordanian mate. Hoping for a big win as have been rubbed all week about supporting Villa by Liverpool and Man Utd supporting Egyptians.
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Terrible team selection. Once again Steven mixing his arrogance with naive selection. This will not end well.
why?
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I’m in my Villa shirt in a bar in Cancun. A couple of locals have asked who Aston Villa are. I said just wait and see.
Come on Villa don’t let me down!
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I’m in my Villa shirt in a bar in Cancun. A couple of locals have asked who Aston Villa are. I said just wait and see.
Come on Villa don’t let me down!
There no locals in bars in Cancun.
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Terrible team selection. Once again Steven mixing his arrogance with naive selection. This will not end well.
Not really sure he has a lot of options with injuries. Buendia deserves a start so it seems a logical starting selection.
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I’m in my Villa shirt in a bar in Cancun. A couple of locals have asked who Aston Villa are. I said just wait and see.
Come on Villa don’t let me down!
There no locals in bars in Cancun.
Definitely Mexican though lol
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That starting line-up is fair enough.
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Good team selection IMO with the exception of Watkins who has had enough chances. Hopefully he’ll prove me wrong tonight. 0-3 to us, Archer to come on and get one
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Lets hope we can leave Notts Forest fans upset tonight. It's quite a while since we last played at Notts Forest in the top division and it looks like it may be a while before we play at Notts Forest again.
Notts Forest 0 Villa 3.
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Watching in a bar in Cairo with my Chelsea supporting Jordanian mate. Hoping for a big win as have been rubbed all week about supporting Villa by Liverpool and Man Utd supporting Egyptians.
I think I'm right in saying Nigel Spinx made his debut at Forest.
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Just win Villa please. Archer to come on for any length of time a bonus.
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Terrible team selection. Once again Steven mixing his arrogance with naive selection. This will not end well.
What team would you have chosen? There aren't many options.
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Just win Villa please. Archer to come on for any length of time a bonus.
This. Unlikely to see Archer with Ings also being on the bench.
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Forest, Robin Hood, Archer
Sub-editors get ready.
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A nice easy 0-3 walk in the park please, Villa.
I'd happily take a professional, relatively stress free 1-0 win.
Does that exist?
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Terrible team selection. Once again Steven mixing his arrogance with naive selection. This will not end well.
Arrogant and naive? He’s just picked a team from the players we have fit. How is that arrogant and naive?
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It's the best 11 he could pick imo, whether it's been coached well enough is another matter. We should be beating these pretty comfortably though.
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A nice easy 0-3 walk in the park please, Villa.
I'd happily take a professional, relatively stress free 1-0 win.
Does that exist?
I allow myself to relax slightly when we go 3 goals up, never before. At 2-0 up against Wolves I was slightly tempted to post 'are we still meant to be minding the gap?' but decided not to. Perhaps it was my pessimism that infected the team.
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Would look better with claret shorts, IMO. Gerrard out.
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I'll go 27 minutes for the full back injury.
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Cornalty.
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I didn't realise Grabban and Lolley had left.
Sydney FC where Lolley is now is also the answer to the question that nobody asked of "where is Jack Rodwell these days?"
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I didn't realise Grabban and Lolley had left.
Sydney FC where Lolley is now is also the answer to the question that nobody asked of "where is Jack Rodwell these days?"
Another player I had forgotten about.
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Ollie's attempts to control the ball are so poor
:)
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We've been much the better team so far.
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Watching in a bar in Cairo with my Chelsea supporting Jordanian mate. Hoping for a big win as have been rubbed all week about supporting Villa by Liverpool and Man Utd supporting Egyptians.
I think I'm right in saying Nigel Spinx made his debut at Forest.
At Forest it would more likely have been Trent Alexandria Arnold.
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We really can't be trying to play long floated balls against these, it's the tactic their central defenders are best suited to, round or through them and rely on Watkins having the pace to hurt them.
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Ollie's attempts to control the ball at so poor
You do surprise me.
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None of that.
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Agh Don Goodman on commentary. Never a good sign.
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What’s that You say? Watkins offside you say?
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We're playing more of a pyramid formation than christmas tree.
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Just no.
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I thought it was more of a willow tree formation.
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We're playing more of a pyramid formation than christmas tree.
Square-based or triangular-?
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This is where we struggle
Opposition packing defensively, we're in control of the ball, passing it around just inside their half, but we can't find the incisive pass to turn possession into goals.
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It bothers me that there's just no real width in that team. Way too narrow. Let's hope that Ollie puts his boots on the right feet tonight. He can't afford to miss anymore sitters. Good to see Buendia given a start he's earned the right.Just win this Villa and please please don't stink the place out.
Isn’t that Young and Cash’s job with McGinn and Dougie filling in at full back.
It was but it isint at the moment.
The crossing from Young and Cash has proved the point so far.
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That Fcukin Toffo bloke should’ve been booked already. I hated the flavoured ones as well.
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Tell you who'd do a job for us, that Alpharaoh Morata.
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Just no.
Pharaoh nuff
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Forest parking the bus.
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The posession just flashed up as 49%-51%. There is no fucking way. Forest have touched the ball 3 times.
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Agh Don Goodman on commentary. Never a good sign.
Dean Smith is on 5 Live's Monday Night Club tonight.
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Very much like last week. Loads of the ball, but totally clueless when we get near the Forest goal
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Just no.
Pharaoh nuff
You Egypt..
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This is where we struggle
Opposition packing defensively, we're in control of the ball, passing it around just inside their half, but we can't find the incisive pass to turn possession into goals.
I imagine you can also post that in the 75th or 80th minute. We will have huffed and puffed our way to nil goals.
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As usual, plenty of effort but slow passing and not much movement. Running off the ball is pants. Too easy to defend against us.
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Need to score while we are on top.
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Tell you who'd do a job for us, that Alpharaoh Morata.
He'd definitely be better than Nile Ranger.
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Just no.
Pharaoh nuff
You Egypt..
Calm down Giza
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Only now noticed no sponsor on their shirt
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This is starting to look depressingly familiar, we lack ideas in the final third.
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We're playing more of a pyramid formation than christmas tree.
Square-based or triangular-?
Pyramid is square, triangular would be a tetrahedron.
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Shit.
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There you go, FFS
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Forest score
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1-0
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First attack, by a player that never scores against anyone else. Sakes.
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Fcukin hell why try and score from there when we never have since the prolific Bacuna was playing for us.
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Wow, pathetic stuff there.
I thought the defence had been sorted?
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Obviously. Fuck's sake.
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Sacked in the morning...
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Anyone know why Forest don't have a shirt sponsor? I think it's a refreshing change.
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Fuck off Rick Wakeman, you useless twat.
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Crap defence
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Striker needing a goal? Tick.
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Here we fuckin' go again.
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Now we’re in a spot of bother. Shite defending twice by Mings.
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That's on Watkins.
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Fucking Mings
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I love Mings but his foul and his man
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Taxi for Gerrard
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Sacked in the morning...
Half time would be just lovely.
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Dennis is a class player, so underrated.
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I thought Mings got the ball for their free kick.
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Fuck me!
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So so predictable. FFS.
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Fucking Mings
Ollie or JJ were supposed to step up there.
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Now we sit with bated breath and wait for Steven's pearl of wisdom....
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Their fans make Everton seem unbiased and reasonable.
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Useless fuckers.
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Anyone know why Forest don't have a shirt sponsor? I think it's a refreshing change.
Wanted gbp10 m apparently. The potential sponsors said fuck off.
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We're not very good, are we?
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It’s just so slow and ponderous. When it goes back to Konsa it absolutely kills us.
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That's disastrous.
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Surely to fuck this is Gerrard's last stand?
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We don't have a top six squad by any stretch of the imagination, but this collection of players is so much better than what Gerrard fashions from it.
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I thought Mings got the ball for their free kick.
Me too, pinched his pocket.
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So so predictable. FFS.
My immediate thought too
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We're not very good, are we?
Well actually we were up to that point!
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Dennis has scored 11 league goals in England, 3 have been against us.
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Everything we do is so slooooooow. No wonder Watkins doesn't get enough clear chances, the ball takes 300 years to come in.
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What a surprise Villa are so narrow Forest deal with us easily and then their first attack score.
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The next predictable thing to happen will be this site will crash :)
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See the Re-signed Manager Bounce is kicking in for them...
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We've got a player who was valued at 140mill in the last few years and we use him to lob the ball in from a 35 yard free kick. Shocking.
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Can't wait for Ads to tell us we're reading it wrong as we're not at the game.
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We're not very good, are we?
Well actually we were up to that point!
Not really we were passing the ball around in front of them and losing it as soon as we tried to get into the box, same as we have almost all season.
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And now live from Nottingham it’s the latest episode of ‘Get Your Season Back on Track, starring Aston Villa.’
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SCORRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Bruce is free. We could swap him with Gerrard and nobody would notice.
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Why's Coutinho taking free kicks from 50 yards out? Wouldn't he be better in and around the box for a second ball?
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Get in
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Yesssc young
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Did we do a goal?
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Ashley! Wasn't expecting that, get in.
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GTFI.
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ASH!!!!
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Get in Villa!
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We don't have a top six squad by any stretch of the imagination, but this collection of players is so much better than what Gerrard fashions from it.
And we have better players than forest.
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Fucking yes! Great goal Ash!
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Anyone know why Forest don't have a shirt sponsor? I think it's a refreshing change.
Wanted gbp10 m apparently. The potential sponsors said fuck off.
Quite right too.
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What a bloody goal!
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Fucking have that you twats. Get in Ashley you beauty
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We don't have a top six squad by any stretch of the imagination, but this collection of players is so much better than what Gerrard fashions from it.
We apparently want to be an elite team but are trying to do it with a league 2 setup.
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VAR….
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What a great strike
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Beauty
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Ash-LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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It's given, don't worry
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We're brilliant, aren't we?
GTFI!
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Lovely strike. Like the Ashley Young of old
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Young player of the year so far this sesson.
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Here we go again, 5-5 incoming.
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Young player of the year so far this sesson.
He must be too old to be eligible?
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Young player of the year so far this sesson.
He has been a bit of a revelation.
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Get in Ashley!!!!!!!!
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Young player of the year so far this sesson.
Too old for that award?
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What just happened? Don't understand. Goal? What does that mean?
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What a goal Ash
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Young is probably our most inform player.
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We score but offside.
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Watkins did well in the build up, headed the ball back into a really dangerous area.
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I read that whenever Forest score first they lose. Time to continue that tradition Villa.
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1-2
Fuck. Ollie offside
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Ollie Offside
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Ash has been one of our better performers recently.
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It's a Watkins goal! Of course it's offside. McGinn looking decent so far.
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That was a superb move
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Watkins - you twat.
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So poor for Ollie to be offside there.
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Young's goal
https://twitter.com/Mercado_Ingles/status/1579553494981562368
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WATKINS FFS GROW A FOOTBALL BRAIN!
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Get that prick sent off.
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Quick throw there, and it leads to a chance. It's almost like raising the tempo gets you goals.
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Watkins is looking across the line, ffs.
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That's a red if a Villa player does it.
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That should of been a straight red. Ben Mee would've been proud of that
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That should be a red.
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Get that prick sent off.
Shhh. We want to win this, we won't if they go down to 10.
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Forest have 2 yellows already. Let's be smart about this and press these players
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Both the Forest yellows were a bit reddish
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These are just physical up and at 'em merchants. If we match their effort we should win this.
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They look shite, I stuck £10 on us at 1-0 down.
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Watkins is ruining everything
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Another game made for archer
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That should be a red.
Without a doubt, endangering an opponent.
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These are a bunch of shithouses. Is Nottingham twinned with Leeds?
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Young is now our oldest PL goal scorer, our previous oldest was Peter Schmeichel.
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Wondering how far TalkShite's commentary is behind the play. Comments coming on here about events being reported by Matterface and co seemingly about 30 seconds later
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Watkins really doesn’t look up for this game.
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Fucking hell ref!
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The French commentators think the ref is having a total shocker. They're right.
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forrest can't string three consecutive passes together. they just rely on bursts of pace on the counter and set pieces. if we can get another goal we can just keep the ball go left and right and shut the game down
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There poor we need to get on the ball get our better players into it
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Referee needs to get a grip on these dirty gits. They should've had two reds already.
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Get Phil off
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Wondering how far TalkShite's commentary is behind the play. Comments coming on here about events being reported by Matterface and co seemingly about 30 seconds later
I'm watching through Now on a roku. I read all about forest scoring before I'd seen their free kick awarded.
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Is the forest pitch 10 times bigger than standard…..I’ve never seen players (of both sides) in so much space.
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I'd get archer on now for Watkins
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In Sagres on a cycling holiday. Go one eye on the game. It’s pissing down.
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Seeing why Buendia is often left out.
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Seeing why Buendia is often left out.
Coutinho just as invisible
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Wondering how far TalkShite's commentary is behind the play. Comments coming on here about events being reported by Matterface and co seemingly about 30 seconds later
Radio 5 Live is well ahead of the TV, they had gone to the City Ground for the Forest goal well before the first FFS, Bollox was posted here. They were even ahead of PWS.
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Is McGinn actually playing?
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The French commentators think they are watching two shit teams. They're right about that, too.
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I'd get archer on now for Watkins
Same.
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Hoooooof.
Does any other team punt it long as often as we do?
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McGinn finding it impossible to get into the game on that right hand side. It just looks so disjointed to me. Dare I say Bruce-esque?
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We're utterly devoid of flare or excitement.
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We should try playing with a striker.
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Slow, no press, shite, wank and not really very good.
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Is McGinn actually playing?
He’s invisible in that position. Deep and chasing shadows
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XG so far is 0.08 vs 0.1. Why do we always play down to the level of shit teams?
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1 stunning goal in 38 mins of dross.
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Coutinho is utterly wasted on the left wing.
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Game needs Archer.
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XG so far is 0.08 vs 0.1. Why do we always play down to the level of shit teams?
Erm…because we are also shit
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Get Phil off
Is he on? I hadn't noticed
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It is a bit embarrassing that so many of our matches are on telly live, if this were us watching another side, we'd be talking about how fucking dire they are.
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Refs useless. They are bullying Buendia out of the game
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Gerrard FFS put Archer on then get in a taxi and piss off.
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I reckon we'd look better if we brought on Buendia, Phil and McGinn.
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If we can't beat these, Gerrard needs going .
They are shite
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Buendia is just too lightweight for the premier league.
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What a thoroughly scrappy, shit game.
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Forest are poor, if we had a bit of nous, we should beat these. But it’s really flat.
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Buendia is just too lightweight for the premier league.
There has been plenty of players his size who have done just fine.
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What a thoroughly scrappy, shit game.
See Leeds
See Southampton
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We are fucking hopeless, no energy, tactics or shape.
It's just awful Bruce-level, gee-up the lads and hope for the best bullshit.
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Coutinho is busted isn't he. Watkins is fucking Blues and desperately needs dropping, mcginn anonymous.
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Forest are poor, if we had a bit of nous, we should beat these. But it’s really flat.
That’s just it though, Ashley Young aside we don’t have any nous.
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Buendia is just too lightweight for the premier league.
There has been plenty of players his size who have done just fine.
Including that bloke, ermm, what was his name? Coutinho.
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Buendia is just too lightweight for the premier league.
He seems more up for it than Phil
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This ref is shit
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What a thoroughly scrappy, shit game.
See Leeds
See Southampton
Well if we are going to play that game you can pretty much include all of Gerrard’s games with the exception of about 5.
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Forest fans behaving like the ref's against them. Are they having a fucking laugh?
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This ref is shit
He’s the least of this games problems.
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What a thoroughly scrappy, shit game.
See Leeds
See Southampton
Well if we are going to play that game you can pretty much include all of Gerrard’s games with the exception of about 5.
Indeed
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Buendia is just too lightweight for the premier league.
There has been plenty of players his size who have done just fine.
Ok, so maybe he's just shit then.
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Forest fans behaving like the ref's against them. Are they having a fucking laugh?
I think it's an East Midlands thing. Derby especially.
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No shape, no construction of attacks. I don't know what exactly we're paying Gerrard to do, but it appears to be just picking the team and doing the press conferences.
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Good work by Konsa. Not so good by Cash.
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Konsa booked
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Ezri Beckenbauer there.
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Forest fans behaving like the ref's against them. Are they having a fucking laugh?
I think it's an East Midlands thing. Derby especially.
Are Leeds and Everton in the East Midlands? 🤔
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Buendia fluffing his lines again
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Buendia is just too lightweight for the premier league.
I can't agree with that. He's been targeted since the first minute. They've took it in turns.
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Buendia is just too lightweight for the premier league.
There has been plenty of players his size who have done just fine.
Ok, so maybe he's just shit then.
He’s not shit. But he might not be good enough or he’s been played in a way where we are not making the most of his ability. Pretty much like all of the other players in the side/squad.
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I’m bored shitless with this
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Absolutely crap football, awful nonsense.
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Try staying awake for this set piece please, Villa.
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Half time
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Coutinho/Buendia combo not working
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HT.
Yawn
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Utter horse shit.
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Anyone else think that Dougie keeps giving it away?
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For the third game in a row this is just two really poor teams playing really badly
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By our standards that was quite good and exciting, by anyone else's that was a bag of boring shit barr Young's shot.
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These are there for the taking, but we don't seem to have much inclination to do so. Irritating two-one loss with a scruffy 87th minute winner.
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I’ve missed the first half. Sounds like it was for the best.
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Forest fans behaving like the ref's against them. Are they having a fucking laugh?
I think it's an East Midlands thing. Derby especially.
Are Leeds and Everton in the East Midlands? 🤔
Yes on Earth 2.0
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So far……awful.
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We've had an unexpected strike from Ashley Young. That's all against a terrible defence
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Mcginn useless again
Watkins no brain
Buendia and countinho not at it , final ball and crosses awful.
We are so dull to watch . The owners must know by now Gerrard ain't working
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I’ve missed the first half. Sounds like it was for the best.
You lucky, lucky bastard
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In Sagres on a cycling holiday. Go one eye on the game. It’s pissing down.
Get back on the bike...lovely part of the world!
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Bloody hell we haven’t got any idea of how to make chances, however that half went very quick and I strangely enjoyed it.
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Wasn't as shit as some of the recent shit we've served up. Still think we'll win, because they're even shitter.
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Tepid shite
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It’s like there is genuinely no attacking plan. The midfield have been absolutely dreadful.
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Young is now our oldest PL goal scorer, our previous oldest was Peter Schmeichel.
Schmeichel still has the record by 243 days.
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These are there for the taking, but we don't seem to have much inclination to do so. Irritating two-one loss with a scruffy 87th minute winner.
Forest probably think the same about is though
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Dire. Utterly predictable. When is this chancer going to get his marching orders!
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Archer on for the completely ineffective Watkins at HT? Nah.
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We have no tactics. Watkins, Coutinho, McGinn doing very little going forward.
Young easily our best player, Cash OK apart from final ball. Ramsey OK too.
But we’re so blunt and boring. Leicester - in the relegation places - put 4 past these and could have had 6.
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Archer on for the completely ineffective Watkins at HT? Nah.
Or play them together?
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I would have him on for Coutinho Lee. We have no movement at all, Watkins at least putting himself about a bit. Coutinho utterly lost.
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Archer on for the completely ineffective Watkins at HT? Nah.
Or play them together?
Taking Coutinho or Buendia off?
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Having two midfielders yet again operate as wingers and then having three CM entirely exposed not only is shit for our attacking intent but gets us every time on the counter. It just doesn’t work and yet we eliminate the creativity of Buendia and Coutinho by playing this way. I fully expect Buendia to come off soon replaced by Ings. It will be just that predictable.
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It’s a physical game, lots of shit you swing from both sides. It’s like a relegation scrap.
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For the third game in a row this is just two really poor teams playing really badly
I just said the same to my Mrs. Three weeks running...utter dross served up by four teams who are sure to be in the relegation mire.
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Lamberkesque style. At least he had the excuse of no money to spend.
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They are really poor, but a bit like the Leeds game, we just seem to be content to just through the motions moving the ball at a really slow tempo.
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As a performance though, this is utter, complete shit. Anyone defending Gerrard for this team and style is on the wind up for a bit of fun. There is no defence. Not one clear cut chance in that half. Tripe.
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Archer on for the completely ineffective Watkins at HT? Nah.
Or play them together?
Taking Coutinho or Buendia off?
I’m with Ozzjim, taking Phil off.
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create absolutely fuck all
Sack this set play guy in the morning
Corners with the CBacks coming up, we pass it short and lose it
Free kicks do not beat the wall
Coutinho, what is the point ?
Well done Ash best Villa pro along with Mings on the pitch
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So Forest there for thevtaking what does our glorious leader do in the half time team talk?
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I think the word for this is 'aimless'.
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I don't know what's slower, our build up play or the H&V servers.
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Sad, but I think Coutinhos ship has sailed
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Unless either side score, my prediction is he'll bring on Ings for Buendia after 65 mins.
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Fucking awful half, created very little, again playing in treacle. The only times we looked dangerous was when we moved the ball quickly.
Buendia, yet again, doing nothing to prove he should start more often.
Watkins working hard but looks totally out of form, Gerrard is damaging him by not making a change at this point.
Coutinho just not in the game at all.
More generally Buendia, Coutinho and Ramsey are all playing far too deep.
I'd take Coutinho, McGinn and Watkins off for Ings, Archer and Dendonkcer, go 4231 with Archer and Ramsey either side of Emi2 behind Ings and trying to get into the box and Dendoncker sitting deep with Luiz.
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As we seem to be playing eye bleedingly bad football like Burnley we might as well go the whole hog and get Dyche in.
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Anyone else think that Dougie keeps giving it away?
So f*cking half arsed tonight.
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Bet 365 have just given 8/1 on Watkins to score the next goal. Even they think he’s shite.
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Fuck that scouse twat out of our club
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Our best player is 37 years of age!
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Is this song new? I don't remember it from previous visits to the City Ground. Maybe I was always late.
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My favourite bit was a set piece breaking down and we passed it back to the keeper in two moves.
Tripe.
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My bloody river has frozen!
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Why is our crossing/passing into the box so shit?
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Final ball again ffs
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They’ve sung Mull of Kintyre for quite a few years but no idea why though.
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Players not looking up when they're playing the ball into the box. It's so annoying.
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We are so awful to watch.
Regardless how it ends, this is just terrible aimless, pointless fucking nonsense.
How can Sawiris and Edens possibly look at this and think things are going in the right direction?
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They’ve sung Mull of Kintyre for quite a few years but no idea why though.
Ta. It must have passed me by. Pretty uninspiring dirge.
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They’ve sung Mull of Kintyre for quite a few years but no idea why though.
That and You've Lost that Loving Feeling.
How cringe.
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According to Google "with the song first played during a League One promotion-winning party in 2008."
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They’ve sung Mull of Kintyre for quite a few years but no idea why though.
They used to sing it when I lived there from 89-92
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I remember us singing Mull of Kintyre when it was a new song!
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How shit are we when the shittest side in the league look better than us?
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Why is our crossing/passing into the box so shit?
Because we only do in the hope that something will happen. The player on the ball has no idea where his colleagues are going to run. It's 100% a setup/tactics issue.
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McGinn booked
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McGinn booked.
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Chance wasted
Mcginns shooting is crap too
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They’ve sung Mull of Kintyre for quite a few years but no idea why though.
They used to sing it when I lived there from 89-92
They were top at Xmas 77 when it was no 1 and went on to win the league
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Even I'm not moaning about that booking.
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How shit are we when the shittest side in the league look better than us?
You can’t be serious
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No idea in the final third
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Take the fucking shot JJ
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They’ve sung Mull of Kintyre for quite a few years but no idea why though.
They used to sing it when I lived there from 89-92
It was mentioned before one of the games in their cup run last season and someone said it was sung since and associated with their heyday in the late 70s.
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They’ve sung Mull of Kintyre for quite a few years but no idea why though.
They used to sing it when I lived there from 89-92
They were top at Xmas 77 when it was no 1 and went on to win the league
I'd genuinely have it below the Frog Chorus in McCartney's oeuvre.
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Well Mr Purslow it’s time that your vanity project was ended
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How shit are we when the shittest side in the league look better than us?
You can’t be serious
I am. We look shit. And toothless.
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Some nice play at times
Just final ball
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McGinn is fucking terrible.
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Why does Watkins just stand still and watch the goalkeeper walk round him to collect the ball?
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This is proper shite
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Ramsey needs to shoot there. Forest really are garbage, hit and hope stuff.
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We look a little bit better this half. Trying to get it forward quicker and there are runners finally.
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How shit are we when the shittest side in the league look better than us?
You can’t be serious
I am. We look shit. And toothless.
As may be, but forest still look worse.
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They’ve sung Mull of Kintyre for quite a few years but no idea why though.
They used to sing it when I lived there from 89-92
They were top at Xmas 77 when it was no 1 and went on to win the league
I'd genuinely have it below the Frog Chorus in McCartney's oeuvre.
Frog chorus is great.
Ebony and Ivory not so good
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We're going to write off another entire fucking year on this joker, aren't we?
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Fuck off mcginn
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We know how this ends don't we. Nothing more certain.
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Pipes of Peace was a classic.
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Terrible team selection. Once again Steven mixing his arrogance with naive selection. This will not end well.
why?
What’s the point of Coutinho and sticking with Watkins.
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This is proper shite
You must be watching a different game to me.
It's not that good.
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McGinn awful
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Watkins ffs. He's been a 1/10 so far tonight. Well this season to be more precise.
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McGinn and Watkins - abject.
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Fuck off Ollie. FFS
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Eddie Yates is a dirty bastard.
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Get sanson on for mcginn
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McGinn and Watkins - abject.
This, again, yet first names on the team sheet week after week.
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I actually think we're doing OK, if we'd picked the right final ball for a tap in we'd be saying some nicely worked goals.
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This is tedious.
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Utter dross Villa
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If Archer doesn't come on and soon I'm packing it in
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Forest making the first of their 23 substitutions.
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How SG not see what we can with Watkins performance tonight. Get Cameron on now.
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Feels more like a championship game than premier league.
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We've got nothing to lose by taking off Watkins and bringing on Archer. Fucking do it Gerrard you arse.
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We've been ok against a very poor side. Put a few half decent bits together but final ball has been awful and watkins is constantly offside
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If Archer doesn't come on and soon I'm packing it in
You will get to see Ings, soon. Maybe Archer if we are three-one down.
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Fucking hell change the system and try something different Gerrard.
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How many worse-to-watch teams are there than us in this league?
It's eyeball-bleedingly bad shite week after week.
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Ings getting ready, which is a surprise
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But Danny Ings is coming on. Must be pension day
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Feels more like a championship game than premier league.
I've thought that about most of our games this season.
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God, this is like a box-ticking exercise.
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Ings getting ready, which is a surprise
Ffs
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Finally a decent cross and we nearly score.
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We've been ok against a very poor side. Put a few half decent bits together but final ball has been awful and watkins is constantly offside
We’ve been shite against a side who are more shite than we are
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Feels more like a championship game than premier league.
I've thought that about most of our games this season.
That first half felt like a relegation scrap.
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How shit are we when the shittest side in the league look better than us?
You can’t be serious
I am. We look shit. And toothless.
You’re watching a different game then.
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Forest are awful
Come on villa
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How shit are we when the shittest side in the league look better than us?
You can’t be serious
I am. We look shit. And toothless.
You’re watching a different game then.
You think this is decent stuff?
It's fucking awful shapeless, aimless rubbish, yet again.
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Of course it’s not a penalty. We aren’t Arsenal.
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That should have been a penalty. Twice VAR hadn't helped us this evening.
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How shit are we when the shittest side in the league look better than us?
You can’t be serious
I am. We look shit. And toothless.
You’re watching a different game then.
Must be because this is championship level.
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Feels more like a championship game than premier league.
It will be next season.
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It's taken us an hour to manage 2 shots on target against a very shit side, it's the very definition of toothless.
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Fucking hell McGinn.
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McGinn and Watkins are both Championship players. End of.
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This reminds me of the stuff under Venglos. We knew we had a decent side but they basically looked as if they didn’t know what they were supposed to be doing every week. That said we still had that night against Inter.
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Ref gives us fuck all
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Wine is helping watch this.
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Feels more like a championship game than premier league.
League 1 more like, the QPR Reading game the other night was way better than this.
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Finally a decent cross and we nearly score.
That made me realise how rare it is we get a cross onto one of our players heads.
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Staggeringly bad.
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Jesus wept.
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ANOTHER FUCKING SHIT FLOATY MCGINN CROSS TO NOBODY
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McGinn will get sent off and we will lose.
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McGinn and Watkins are both Championship players. End of.
There is part of the issue. Also: Cash and Buendia.
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Watkins is now 2018 Agbonlahor
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I wouldn't mind but McGinn plays so many minutes when we have someone like Sanson on the bench.
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Gerrard clearly doesn't have a clue what to do to change this!
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McGinn will get sent off.
At least it won't make us any weaker
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I think Dougie has been really good
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McGinn and Watkins are both Championship players. End of.
There is part of the issue. Also: Cash and Buendia.
They've been our best players!
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Ah, it's the Ings and Watkins thing again.
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Danny Ings. Be still my beating heart.
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Grandad on now.
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65 minutes of turgid shite.
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I've had a shit day at work. Still, I've always got the Villa to lift the mood...
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Wrong quote!
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Wrong sub again
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What has Archer done to Gerrard. What’s the point of having him sitting in the bench
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McGinn and Watkins are both Championship players. End of.
There is part of the issue. Also: Cash and Buendia.
They've been our best players!
Lively doesn't mean good. Cash can't cross and Buendia can't stay on his feet.
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Cascarino mk2 is on.
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In a side that cannot score goals that we cannot find a way for Coutinho to be his very best is a fucking crime
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FFS Gerard freshen it up! Be adventurous!! Not Ings!!!
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Buendia is a super sub. Nothing more.
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I don't think we are very good
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Gerrard clearly doesn't have a clue what to do to change this!
Yes he does: Danny Ings!
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"What a load of rubbish!"
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Unless either side score, my prediction is he'll bring on Ings for Buendia after 65 mins.
Only thing wrong was it was Phil taken off and not Buendia.
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This passage of play is a great example, zero idea what to do to open them up
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I don't think we are very good
What makes you say that? ;)
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Cash needs to practice crossing
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Can anyone explain to me why mcginn plays on the right?
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Fucking hell McGinn
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Wtf McGinn
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There is literally no attacking plan.
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Can anyone think of a reason why we didn't loan Archer out if we have no chance of ever picking him?
And FFS, McGinn, that was never going to work.
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Jesus wept mcginn
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Fifty pee head.
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Watkins actually did well there, too.
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"What a load of rubbish!"
Is that from the villa end?
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Ings touches the ball.
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Hahahahaha fucking hell McGinn
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Good save Emi
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McGinn - again, just awful.
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Blimey McGinn, came of one his corners on his head
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I’m speechless at our ineptitude. We have some seriously dark days ahead of us.
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Awesome save emi
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Wine is helping watch this.
I've polished off the last of yesterday's treacle sponge. Aldi 'specially selected' one. Didn't do custard in case I missed something whilst making it. Oh well, still nice with just cream.
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What the actual fuck was that McGinn
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McGinn you clown.
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Buendia is the one making the runs and getting in between the lines, to be fair.
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That's our captain!
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McGinn is the hill Gerrard has decided to die on
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This passage of play is a great example, zero idea what to do to open them up
Totally devoid of any nous, guile, skill or ability. Fucking dire.
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How about changing our no 7 with anyone
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Cash needs to practice crossing
Wastes some amount of good positions.
It's much better second half from us. But if Gerrard has any faith in Archer then now is the time.
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McGinn you clown.
Picked, every fucking game!
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What was McGinn thinking with that header? Bizarre.
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Forest bring on a striker that has yet to score. Haven't we read this script before.
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I give up
Gerrard you ain't good
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Gerrard is going to be rueing their late goal 'against the run of play'.
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Buendia is the one making the runs and getting in between the lines, to be fair.
He is but he's been just as poor as Watkins in that he's running around a lot but not actually doing anything.
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McGinn - Ted MacDougal you ain’t.
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How shit are we when the shittest side in the league look better than us?
You can’t be serious
I am. We look shit. And toothless.
You’re watching a different game then.
You think this is decent stuff?
It's fucking awful shapeless, aimless rubbish, yet again.
The original comment was that they looked better than us which is rubbish
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Gibbs-White is a decent player.
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I’ve got a bad feeling about this…
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There is literally no attacking plan.
No there isn't. Just like Southgate, Gerrard has absolutely no idea how to set up a team to create chances.
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A lot of our players need to practice kicking the ball where they want it to go.
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I’ve got a bad feeling about this…
What that we might win and he survives?
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FFS Villa get a grip on this fucking game!
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Gerrard is going to be rueing their late goal 'against the run of play'.
We just know it.
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If this is ‘continuous improvement’ I’d hate to see a decline. Utter garbage.
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My word, this is absolutely dreadful.
And this is easily the worst team in the league we're playing.
There don't seem to be any tactics in evidence here.
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Thank fuck Forest are as shit as they are
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That’s just stupid from Ramsey.
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Stupid yellow for Ramsey
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If we keep Gerrard we are in for another relegation battle aren’t we?
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Honestly, what the fuck is Watkins doing still on the pitch
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i wish we had the aggression in our play like we do with the handbags
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Ramsey is going to get himself sent off. He’s lost his head
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Oh my god this substitution says it all.
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Sanson! I remember him!
Edit: it's not Sanson, is it? I obviously don't remember him well enough to know what he looks like.
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Fucking abysmal. Really fucking bad.
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Oooh archer
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Archer
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Archer alert!!!!!
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Fucking hell. McGinn off.
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If we keep Gerrard we are in for another relegation battle aren’t we?
Aren't we already?
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At last!
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Archer coming on it seems
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Taking their bait and playing their hand
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It's chaos. The bloke with the long hair constantly in Gerrards ear. What is his actual role?
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Come on Cam do your stuff
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Certainly has an air of 'was sacked after a late defeat to Nottingham Forest' feel to it now.
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Archer coming on.
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Just a quick point of order - how were they able to make a sub when Martinez made that save? Don't think the ball went out and the ref restarted the game with a drop ball.
Our final ball has been woeful again.
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how the fuck have we been given more yellow cards than them?
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It's chaos. The bloke with the long hair constantly in Gerrards ear. What is his actual role?
Chief Knob
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Gerrard seems to be a throwback coach. It's a wonder he doesn't come out wearing a sheepskin coat and smoking a Castella.
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Gerrard seems to be a throwback coach. It's a wonder he doesn't come out wearing a sheepskin coat and smoking a Castella.
He's got a Rover parked outside.
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Typical the ball hasn’t gone out for twenty minutes when trying to get Archer on.
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Cam coming on.
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Gerrard seems to be a throwback coach. It's a wonder he doesn't come out wearing a sheepskin coat and smoking a Castella.
I’d like to throw him back to Glasgow
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Oh my god if that just doesn’t sum us up I don’t know what does.
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Our free kicks are great
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Bloody Hell, Buendia is playing the whole game!
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It's chaos. The bloke with the long hair constantly in Gerrards ear. What is his actual role?
Chief Knob
Chortle
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Gerrard seems to be a throwback coach. It's a wonder he doesn't come out wearing a sheepskin coat and smoking a Castella.
This was why I was against his hiring in the first place. The game in the PL is too technical now for your typical meat and two veg British coach.
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It’s a bloody good job we’ve got a set piece coach or else our set pieces might be shit.
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10 minutes for Archer. Oh well come on son score us a winner
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3 strikers on
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Gerrard seems to be a throwback coach. It's a wonder he doesn't come out wearing a sheepskin coat and smoking a Castella.
At least some of those throwback coaches actually did some coaching in between taking baths with Fiona Richmond.
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ollie Watkins first touch is abysmal
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After 80 mins we've had 2 shots on target against a side that's bottom of the league having lost their last 5 conceding 18 goals in the process.
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It’s a bloody good job we’ve got a set piece coach or else or set pieces might be shit.
He’s a Fcukin vegetarian coach. Absolutely nothing meaty about us.
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'Controlled build up from Villa' according to Alan Parry.
Looks like slow, plodding visionless fare to me
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About bloody time.
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Yates finally booked.
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Wrong quote.
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You know the manager is desperate when three strikers are on the pitch
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Hah, I laughed out loud at Watkins' golden retriever ball control then.
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Get Archer off.
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50p head Archer
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Fcukin hell Archer. :-)
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Get Archer off.
Chuckle
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Get Archer off ;D
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Ref hates dougoec
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They're never putting us on telly AGAIN? 😨
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God god god, this is fucking awful
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Young captain? I thought Martinez was vice captain?
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Forest are absolute dog shit and we can't beat them.
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I think the owners have given up if we keep Gerrard.
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Thank god I’m in a bar somewhere hot and can have a few Tequilas without the worry of work tomorrow.
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It's so slow and clueless, no pressure, no energy, no nothing.
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ollie Watkins first touch is abysmal
And his fourth and fifth aren't any better.
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It's so slow and clueless, no pressure, no energy, no nothing.
That’s Gerrard’s Villa for you. It’s been that for a long while now.
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Why don’t we put Ings on for a bit?
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We are going to come away with a point at Forest. Will there be a fist to the chest by Gerrard to Purslow?
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If we were in the Championship this season, with this manager and these players, we wouldn't be fucking getting out of it.
Well, not through promotion, anyway.
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Gerrard be saying unbeaten in four now , it's a good platform to move up the table .
Chancer
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Forest are absolute dog shit and we can't beat them.
See also: Leeds, Bournemouth, West Ham, Palace.
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God god god, this is fucking awful
If I were one of the owners I'd be pretty concerned about this.
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You know the manager is desperate when three strikers are on the pitch
Nonsense sub, Watkins left wing and Buendia right? Paul Lambert stuff
Dendoncker has his uses
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Amazing, Danny Ings is actually on the pitch.
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Fucking ref
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Archer showing more intent than our other strikers already.
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Glad I’ve only caught the second half because it’s been shit.
Watkins the epitome of absolute shite.
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Watkins is utter shit.
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Is someone gonna save SG. If we don’t win this, he has to go.
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Even a simple lay off is poor from Watkins
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We've created so few problems for an absolutely awful Forest side.
Shameful.
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Oh my God our set pieces.
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Too much standing and waving their arms at the referee from Villa players instead of going for it
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86% possession and how many shots on or off target? 1 maybe?
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Everyone forward.
Pass it sideways to the full back.
Aaaaaaaaaand.....
HOOF!
Welcome back, Paul Lambert.
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Step 1 stop using Watkins
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Watkins couldn't do a simple one two with archer, knocks it behind him to ruin the memento
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We actually pay someone to fashion these set pieces. We pay someone!
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Is someone gonna save SG. If we don’t win this, he has to go.
Mark Robbins.
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Gerrard is sucking the confidence out of these players, certainly the attackers.
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Feels like a defeat.
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Please nick one Villa, I know we’ve been shit but please just fucking win.
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Please fucking fire Gerrard. I can’t keep doing this.
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Utter plodding dross.
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Toothless . Chelsea gonna destroy us Sunday
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Oh come on folks why the negativity? We could be 9th under the superstar Gerrard if we win.
There's still 30 seconds left to watch our fabulous football.
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Full time
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Archer showing more intent than our other strikers already.
Should have been brought on earlier as well as in previous matches.
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Agreed, not good enough.
The positives, archer, martinez and young.
Plus, we did show some fight, albeit in a disjointed way.
But we didn't buckle, and that is likely due to Gerrards grit.
Last ten we did give it a go and abit unlucky to not make it pay against a spirited forest who have got the momentum from their 1st season back ..its easy to forget that.
Gerrard will need a tin hat, but he'll ride out this storm.