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Title: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Jon Crofts on August 31, 2022, 09:37:13 PM
Shite.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: villadelph on August 31, 2022, 09:38:45 PM
Owners are full of shit.
CEO is full of shit.
Recruitment team is full of shit.
Manager is full of shit.

European football my ass.


edit: harsh on the owners, but I’ve got to see some growth or progress, somewhere.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Goldenballs on August 31, 2022, 09:39:02 PM
Double shite
Title: Arsenal vs Aston Villa Post-Match Analysis
Post by: Legion on August 31, 2022, 09:39:04 PM
Shite.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: LukeJames on August 31, 2022, 09:39:31 PM
We are boring as fuck.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: The Edge on August 31, 2022, 09:39:46 PM
Shite.
I agree with every word.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 31, 2022, 09:41:02 PM
Humiliating.

19th now. 19th.

Get rid, and do it fucking quickly.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Flin5tone on August 31, 2022, 09:41:12 PM
We need answers and fast . We've been lied to with this vision of competing in the top half . We have had a shite transfer window, a inexperienced manager and are all f"****g talk.

If the club didn't give us false hope all the time it wouldn't be as bad but they fill us with crap .
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Nev on August 31, 2022, 09:42:11 PM
You know I thought we were slightly better tonight. So not catastrophic, just terrible.
The inevitably of it just grows by the match. Every player looks shot, looks a shadow of their former selves, there is no system, we can't defend, we struggle to attack and whatever changes are made by the manager, we still look the same. And that, above all else is damning.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Legion on August 31, 2022, 09:43:09 PM
He's entering O'Leary and O'Neill territory for me.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: ROBBO on August 31, 2022, 09:43:32 PM
What now? worst start for twenty five years, manager out of his depth, players look second rate. Keep the owners sack the rest.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Legion on August 31, 2022, 09:44:07 PM
At least we didn't get battered. Where's that bottle of wine?
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Paul.S on August 31, 2022, 09:44:17 PM
We don’t have an identity on the pitch. We aren’t a Leeds under Bielsa who attack at all costs but lose, we aren’t a passing side because we can’t keep the ball and we don’t play on the break because our forwards are isolated and the midfield don’t spring forward to help. Staying as we are isn’t an option.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: olaftab on August 31, 2022, 09:44:25 PM
Yes we are shit.
Yes we have a numpty coach.
Yes we were embarrassing tonight especially in the first half
But when your goalkeeper gives the opposition two goals...what fucking chance do we have to get something out of a tough match?
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: richtheholtender on August 31, 2022, 09:45:00 PM
Owners are full of shit.
CEO is full of shit.
Recruitment team is full of shit.
Manager is full of shit.

European football my ass.




Most accurate post I've seen. It's to late I'm the day now, I wouldn't piss about, they cocked it right up. I think Gerrard will be successful, I want him to succeed here but now I think it's a case of getting a manager in who can just name something of what we've got. Make no mistake those pair at the top deserve those, even not for the complete neglect they've shown on the market but for the very least of recruiting a man who's recruited two managers that according to the fans haven't worked. Whatever way you sell it they are the owners,  they are meant to lead and they are responsible
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Allan C on August 31, 2022, 09:45:34 PM
Owners are full of shit.
CEO is full of shit.
Recruitment team is full of shit.
Manager is full of shit.

European football my ass.
So everyone except the players then??? The same players who were “full of shit” under Smith???
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Goldenballs on August 31, 2022, 09:45:50 PM
I'm still none the wiser regarding Gerrard's tactics.

Arsenal are a good team who are absolutely buzzing at the moment, but I don't think the gulf in class should be that big.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Skerra on August 31, 2022, 09:47:58 PM
May as well get a thread going for the Citeh match. Need to see if the 14 or so think we will win that one as well.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 31, 2022, 09:49:37 PM
Owners are full of shit.
CEO is full of shit.
Recruitment team is full of shit.
Manager is full of shit.

European football my ass.

Owners full of shit - Christ almighty.

The actual issues -

There is simply no structure of attack, I genuinely don’t know what our plan is.
The players look shorn of confidence.
Something needs to change - it might well be a change of manager, an influx of new players, a lucky break, or a combination of all those things. But it’s looking bleak.

Oh and conceding straight after scoring, absolutely unforgivable.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: richtheholtender on August 31, 2022, 09:49:50 PM
Owners are full of shit.
CEO is full of shit.
Recruitment team is full of shit.
Manager is full of shit.

European football my ass.
So everyone except the players then??? The same players who were “full of shit” under Smith???



I keep getting told they're good enough. Despite asking, nobody has said what they're good for
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on August 31, 2022, 09:50:25 PM
Positives: It wasn't the heavy loss I thought it would be (through good fortune) and Luiz's goal.
Negatives:
Another loss-4 in 5 games.
19th in the table.
Gerrard's team never do anything against the sl6 teams.
No resilience-today's was the 3rd game this season where we've conceded a goal within minutes of scoring.
The reasons just keep on coming why this guy should be nowhere near Aston Villa.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Rory on August 31, 2022, 09:50:53 PM
May as well get a thread going for the Citeh match. Need to see if the 14 or so think we will win that one as well.

'The 14 or so'?
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: richtheholtender on August 31, 2022, 09:51:31 PM
We need answers and fast . We've been lied to with this vision of competing in the top half . We have had a shite transfer window, a inexperienced manager and are all f"****g talk.

If the club didn't give us false hope all the time it wouldn't be as bad but they fill us with crap .





With you on this one
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Risso on August 31, 2022, 09:51:56 PM
Absolute horse shit from 1-11.

Martinez - wank
Mings - fucking sub Titus Bramble shit
McGinn - fat useless knacker
McGinn - less ability than my labrador chasing a balloon
Buendia - would struggle in the U11s

Gerrard - fuck off, and when you’ve got there, fuck off some more.

Bag of shite, shit fucking bastards.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: The Edge on August 31, 2022, 09:52:18 PM
For all their possession both goals were keeper errors. Cash was rinsed by Martinelli and for their winner he completely switched off as to the threat from an Arsenal player running unmarked towards goal behind him. He only had to turn and run at him and put him off. I take a slight bit of comfort with the battling spirit and the spell in the second half where we looked pretty decent with the ball. It was a bad time to play Arsenal they are on fire. Our worst start in the Premier league since 92. The clock is definitely ticking for Gerrard. Pochetino won't be out of work for long.....
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: FrankyH on August 31, 2022, 09:53:01 PM
I don't know if Martinez doing an impression of Les Sealey tonight is  Gerrard's fault . That said , we were lucky to stay in the game after that first half. I think the Leicester and Southampton games will seal his fate.

Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: andyh on August 31, 2022, 09:53:07 PM
I think we are being mugged off
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Villafirst on August 31, 2022, 09:54:26 PM
Poor from Martinez on both goals. He should've caught the first and punched Martinell's shot out instead of flapping at it.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: levico on August 31, 2022, 09:55:12 PM
Zero confidence that it’ll get any better under this manager.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: gpbarr on August 31, 2022, 09:55:27 PM
Owners are full of shit.
CEO is full of shit.
Recruitment team is full of shit.
Manager is full of shit.

European football my ass.
So everyone except the players then??? The same players who were “full of shit” under Smith???



I keep getting told they're good enough. Despite asking, nobody has said what they're good for

not even worth trying mate. the owners are in for more money than you or I will ever see in our lifetimes. if you don't understand that, you never will
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: TopDeck113 on August 31, 2022, 09:56:26 PM
The one small consolation is that it won't now be until the weekend that we get trashed.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: steamer on August 31, 2022, 09:57:07 PM
When you post early few read or comment
My view, was there anyone from our starting 11 that would have started for Arsenal ?
I doubt it
So, poor recruitment or setting your stall at a level lower
Add that to a manager who is clueless and we have a problem. This team with this manager are relegation candidates,
This team with a capable manager could finish mid table
you then question , what is our ambition and who is driving the plan
The owners provide the funding and the CEO delivers
If that is Purslow that is expected to deliver then he has failed
Time for reflection by the owners, get rid of Purslow and Gerrard , if you want to win things you need winners, There are not many that meet that criteria at B6 today
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Mellin on August 31, 2022, 09:57:21 PM
Didn't watch and just checked the score. Feel better for it.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Jon Crofts on August 31, 2022, 09:57:38 PM
We are improving under Steven.

Improving our chances of relegation.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: LukeJames on August 31, 2022, 09:57:40 PM
Just look at those goal mouth scrambles in the 1st half. All over the fucking place. If it was any other team I'd be watching it and laughing my bollocks off.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: OzVilla on August 31, 2022, 09:57:57 PM
Seriously, as poor as Gerrard is what the fuck was Martinez doing. Players look as shot as the manager.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: villadelph on August 31, 2022, 09:58:37 PM
Owners are full of shit.
CEO is full of shit.
Recruitment team is full of shit.
Manager is full of shit.

European football my ass.

Owners full of shit - Christ almighty.

The actual issues -

There is simply no structure of attack, I genuinely don’t know what our plan is.
The players look shorn of confidence.
Something needs to change - it might well be a change of manager, an influx of new players, a lucky break, or a combination of all those things. But it’s looking bleak.

Oh and conceding straight after scoring, absolutely unforgivable.

Accountability starts at the top.

The owners were responsible for identifying the CEO, who they left responsible to pick out a manager. Looks like they got both wrong. Lange's team was brought in under the guise that they would use analytics and find diamonds in the rough throughout Europe. That pipeline has amounted to exactly nothing at this level.

That 100m stadium renovation is going to be great when we're hosting Hull City mid-week.

This is another plate of lies we've been served. Totally and completely unqualified personal leading the club that will cost tens of millions of dollars to get rid of. This isn't politics, its fuckin football. Put a decent product on the pitch instead of worrying about the commercial aspect and vanity hires, Purslow.

The players aren't blameless, but they also aren't the ones forcing a poorly constructed 4-3-3 down our throats. Wrong players in the wrong places, hot and cold starting xi's and a mish mash of crap throughout the midfield. NO TACTICS, no style, no system. I can't blame a car that doesn't run if the person put coolant in their engine oil.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on August 31, 2022, 09:59:07 PM
Feels relegation already.Unless there's a sea-change.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Rory on August 31, 2022, 10:00:41 PM
I don't know if Martinez doing an impression of Les Sealey tonight is  Gerrard's fault . That said , we were lucky to stay in the game after that first half. I think the Leicester and Southampton games will seal his fate.

He beats Man City or he's gone. We need minimum 4 points from Leicester & Southampton, so there's no point jeopardizing that by sticking with a bloke who, on his current record, would take 8 matches to get those 4 points.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: olaftab on August 31, 2022, 10:00:44 PM
Absolute horse shit from 1-11.

Martinez - wank
Mings - fucking sub Titus Bramble shit
McGinn - fat useless knacker
McGinn - less ability than my labrador chasing a balloon
Buendia - would struggle in the U11s

Gerrard - fuck off, and when you’ve got there, fuck off some more.

Bag of shite, shit fucking bastards.
We don't stand a chance with two shite McGinn's in the team.
But totally agree with you and Purslow needs to get his fucking greasy arse out of our club, the slime ball.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: SaddVillan on August 31, 2022, 10:02:23 PM
Why oh why oh why can't we shut up shop for 5-10 minutes after scoring?

IT'S
BASIC
FUCKING
COACHING

GET
IT
SORTED
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Beard82 on August 31, 2022, 10:05:20 PM
The scoreline flattened us

Lots of fight and some great emergency defending

The narrow setup makes it so easy to play against us, I think that is a big part of it and has been all along

I cant see him getting beyond the end of sept
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: DC1874 on August 31, 2022, 10:06:26 PM
"Accountability starts at the top.

The owners were responsible for identifying the CEO, who they left responsible to pick out a manager. Looks like they got both wrong. Lange's team was brought in under the guise that they would use analytics and find diamonds in the rough throughout Europe. That pipeline has amounted to exactly nothing at this level.

That 100m stadium renovation is going to be great when we're hosting Hull City mid-week.

This is another plate of lies we've been served. Totally and completely unqualified personal leading the club that will cost tens of millions of dollars to get rid of. This isn't politics, its fuckin football. Put a decent product on the pitch instead of worrying about the commercial aspect and vanity hires, Purslow.

The players aren't blameless, but they also aren't the ones forcing a poorly constructed 4-3-3 down our throats. Wrong players in the wrong places, hot and cold starting xi's and a mish mash of crap throughout the midfield. NO TACTICS, no style, no system. I can't blame a car that doesn't run if the person put coolant in their engine oil."

SPOT ON - WE NOW NEED A WIRE BRUSH JOB - CEO/MANAGER/COACH/SCOUT
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Rory on August 31, 2022, 10:07:34 PM

I cant see him getting beyond the end of sept

I admire your optimism!
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: astonvilla82 on August 31, 2022, 10:09:06 PM
Owners are full of shit.
CEO is full of shit.
Recruitment team is full of shit.
Manager is full of shit.

European football my ass.
So everyone except the players then??? The same players who were “full of shit” under Smith???
same players who said it's not my fault it's the managers, hate them for hiding when they need to stand up to be counted
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Clampy on August 31, 2022, 10:10:57 PM
The effort was there, the quality, especially in the final third was nowhere near good enough. Wasn't as awful as I was expecting if I'm honest. We really really need to keep our heads after we score.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Flin5tone on August 31, 2022, 10:11:42 PM
"Accountability starts at the top.

The owners were responsible for identifying the CEO, who they left responsible to pick out a manager. Looks like they got both wrong. Lange's team was brought in under the guise that they would use analytics and find diamonds in the rough throughout Europe. That pipeline has amounted to exactly nothing at this level.

That 100m stadium renovation is going to be great when we're hosting Hull City mid-week.

This is another plate of lies we've been served. Totally and completely unqualified personal leading the club that will cost tens of millions of dollars to get rid of. This isn't politics, its fuckin football. Put a decent product on the pitch instead of worrying about the commercial aspect and vanity hires, Purslow.

The players aren't blameless, but they also aren't the ones forcing a poorly constructed 4-3-3 down our throats. Wrong players in the wrong places, hot and cold starting xi's and a mish mash of crap throughout the midfield. NO TACTICS, no style, no system. I can't blame a car that doesn't run if the person put coolant in their engine oil."

SPOT ON - WE NOW NEED A WIRE BRUSH JOB - CEO/MANAGER/COACH/SCOUT

Here here
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Sexual Ealing on August 31, 2022, 10:12:28 PM
The scoreline flattened us

Lots of fight and some great emergency defending

The narrow setup makes it so easy to play against us, I think that is a big part of it and has been all along

I cant see him getting beyond the end of sept

I hope he doesn't get beyond the end of August.

I didn't see it. I was writing some web content about how house building firms could make the most out of Instagram, despite having never looked at Instagram and (technically, though through choice, being homeless). I bet I had a better time than those of you who did.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: FrankyH on August 31, 2022, 10:14:38 PM
If anyone has left BT Sports on , they are showing the European Cup Tribute documentary .. every cloud...
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: DC1874 on August 31, 2022, 10:14:51 PM
OK - we have x2 Brazilian Internationals, x2 Argentinian Internationals, x1 Polish International, x2 England Internationals, x1 Scotland International, x1 French International, x2 Sweden Internationals, x1 Jamaican International, etc. How is that a 19th in the table team????
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: The Edge on August 31, 2022, 10:15:29 PM
Why oh why oh why can't we shut up shop for 5-10 minutes after scoring?

IT'S
BASIC
FUCKING
COACHING

GET
IT
SORTED
Gerrard pointed that out in his post match interview. He called it "details" in our emergency area. So is it lack of coaching or is it that the players just aren't listening? I thought Martin Keown made some excellent points about our set up. Especially about our being narrow and predictable in attack and how much responsibility and workload our wide players are being given.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: andyh on August 31, 2022, 10:16:23 PM
What the actual fuck has happened to Digne, Cash, Ramsey ?
They are not even a shadow of the players they were 15 games ago.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 31, 2022, 10:16:23 PM
Emi was really poor tonight, should have done much better for both goals.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: rougegorge on August 31, 2022, 10:20:04 PM
OK - we have x2 Brazilian Internationals, x2 Argentinian Internationals, x1 Polish International, x2 England Internationals, x1 Scotland International, x1 French International, x2 Sweden Internationals, x1 Jamaican International, etc. How is that a 19th in the table team????
x 2 French even.
Ok they're not all current, but you're absolutely right.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: DC1874 on August 31, 2022, 10:23:14 PM
"I think we are being mugged off" - same as with stuff outside of VP - some fuckers in suits saying it's all great when the reality is totally it's shot and having your eyes ripped out for paying for it!
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: eamonn on August 31, 2022, 10:28:33 PM
Absolute horse shit from 1-11.

Martinez - wank
Mings - fucking sub Titus Bramble shit
McGinn - fat useless knacker
McGinn - less ability than my labrador chasing a balloon
Buendia - would struggle in the U11s

Gerrard - fuck off, and when you’ve got there, fuck off some more.

Bag of shite, shit fucking bastards.

Fat knacker  ;D
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: eamonn on August 31, 2022, 10:29:22 PM
Gerrard is getting an incredibly easy ride by ex-players. Dublin and James Collins basically defending him on the basis that he's young and is gonna make a great manager. No worries, then!
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: DC1874 on August 31, 2022, 10:33:02 PM
It's the old boys club they think unless you were a pro footballer you can't manage, coach or referee!
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 31, 2022, 10:33:43 PM
apparently went straight down the tunnel and didn't go to the away fans. His time is definitely up if its true
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: VILLA MOLE on August 31, 2022, 10:34:24 PM
Arsenal are flack track bullies . They are fine against teams as insipid as us , but even today they should have been out of site
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: OzVilla on August 31, 2022, 10:35:16 PM
His time was up after Sunday , we all know that. It just takes time to filter through to the boardroom
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Bad English on August 31, 2022, 10:35:59 PM
I thought we we excellent.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Steve67 on August 31, 2022, 10:38:18 PM
This all has an air of inevitability about it. If we don’t make a change, we are heading for relegation. Losing 2-1 to Arsenal doesn’t sound too bad but it is yet another loss and at some point we will be calling for Sam Allardyce (almost LOL), so it’s important we don’t leave things too late. Ridiculous to say, but timing is important and there are some really good managers out there who are currently available. Go and get one, quickly.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Dave P on August 31, 2022, 10:38:20 PM
Fair play to the players. They are carrying out his tactics to the fucking letter.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: dorsetvillian on August 31, 2022, 10:39:26 PM
When I saw the team I was amazed it was the same midfield and system as Palace. Gerrard is clueless. Game should have been out of sight by half time. Still Gerrard couldn't affect the game when Arsenal started to be 'Arsenal'. My opinion doesn't matter in the slightest but keep loosing and Gerrard will thankfully be gone.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Legion on August 31, 2022, 10:39:41 PM
What tactics? He's one of the biggest mistakes we've ever made.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: brontebilly on August 31, 2022, 10:41:23 PM
Gerrard is getting an incredibly easy ride by ex-players. Dublin and James Collins basically defending him on the basis that he's young and is gonna make a great manager. No worries, then!

Keown, and Chris Sutton, were very critical of our tactics. But the team organisation is just so poor. Spaces everywhere...full back to centre back, the defensive line, Kamara to the other two midfielders, front 3 and midfield. Watkins and the two narrow forwards. No wonder we can't keep the ball, there's no cohesion at all with and without the ball.

Martinez 3 - at fault for two goals and hiding on line again.
Cash 5 - average defender at this level and regressing going forward. Awful defending for their winner
Konsa 6 - bullied by Jesus for that yellow but was decent in the main
Mings 6 - solid enough for me
Digne 4 - rubbish defender and a terrible signing. Bullied by Saka. Mugged off buying him
Kamara 6 - battled hard I thought but the midfield unit sunk
Ramsey 6 - probably a 3 in first half, unable to track runners and their first came from that but much better second half
McGinn 5 - tried hard first half but anonymous second bar his yellow
Buendia 4 - shite, kept giving ball away
Watkins 6 - same as Ramsey, vastly improved second half
Bailey 6 - some really smart touches at times but needs to do a lot more

Coutinho was ok when he came in on the left, Luiz scored a corner and trotted around avoiding tackles
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Bully2345 on August 31, 2022, 10:42:21 PM
I sit and wonder if I’m being harsh after we get back into the game but no. That second half was an improvement but only because we should have been five down at half time.

It’s time to go
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: RichardBatchelor on August 31, 2022, 10:43:03 PM
Respectable scoreline and a marginal improvement but our ball retention is so so poor and to concede immediately after scoring three times in a row is unforgivable, really. The positive is Doug’s magic corners. Twice can’t be a fluke.

Haaland will have a field day next weekend.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: steamer on August 31, 2022, 10:43:34 PM
Luiz did not overly celebrate when scoring
probably on his way
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: LeonW on August 31, 2022, 10:45:32 PM
Look at the performance; not the scoreline. This was not a gutsy display of heart, endeavour and punching with intelligence with the weapons that you have. It was what we've seen time and again under Gerrard and which we're actually getting worse at.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Legion on August 31, 2022, 10:47:27 PM
Luiz did not overly celebrate when scoring
probably on his way

When is the transfer deadline?
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 31, 2022, 10:47:38 PM
Fair play to the players. They are carrying out his tactics to the fucking letter.

Agreed, if that manager is Dave Bassett, Bobby Gould or Joe Kinnear. SG has turned us in to a very expensively assembled Wimbledon 88-98. As Lineker would probably say today " the best way to watch Aston Villa is on Ceefax".
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: steamer on August 31, 2022, 10:48:14 PM
Look at the performance; not the scoreline. This was not a gutsy display of heart, endeavour and punching with intelligence with the weapons that you have. It was what we've seen time and again under Gerrard and which we're actually getting worse at.
you are right it was gutless
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: villabear on August 31, 2022, 10:48:22 PM
Why is Konsa playing instead of Chambers?
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Legion on August 31, 2022, 10:49:20 PM
Why is Konsa playing instead of Chambers?

Because Steven Allme does not have a clue.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Exeter 77 on August 31, 2022, 10:49:52 PM
Luiz did not overly celebrate when scoring
probably on his way

When is the transfer deadline?
11:00pm tomorrow I think.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Dave P on August 31, 2022, 10:49:52 PM
Why is Konsa playing instead of Chambers?

You tell me and there are thousands of similar questions that need answering from this fraud.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: brontebilly on August 31, 2022, 10:49:59 PM
Why is Konsa playing instead of Chambers?

He's a better player, much better I'd argue. Just stuck in a rut like most of them. Thought Konsa was a long way down our list of problems tonight.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Bad English on August 31, 2022, 10:50:16 PM
Why is Konsa playing instead of Chambers?
Gerrard is picking the team.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Villa Lew on August 31, 2022, 10:50:38 PM
The surprising thing is despite the huge gulf in class, we could have got something from the match, both of their goals were down to Martinez's fault, Cash also culpable for the 2nd goal. So frustrating, it's the third time already this season, we've conceded minutes after scoring.

As long as we are not hammered on Saturday, don't think Gerrard will be sacked, but if we don't at least get one win against Leicester or Southampton, then he will go. Of course it's possible, after West Ham, Purslow may now be looking for the next boss, we'll have to wait and see.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Nii Lamptey on August 31, 2022, 10:50:48 PM
Could be out on that pitch till the weekend and still not score a goal. Better effort tonight, but no ounce of attacking threat on Ramsdale’s goal.
Part of me is questioning whether to turn up on Saturday evening and have my weekend ruined by the Haaland show.

Get rid. It’s not going to change!!!
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Clampy on August 31, 2022, 10:51:01 PM
That booking Konsa got in the second half was ridiclous. Woeful refereeing.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Legion on August 31, 2022, 10:51:07 PM
Luiz did not overly celebrate when scoring
probably on his way

When is the transfer deadline?
11:00pm tomorrow I think.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: villabear on August 31, 2022, 10:51:12 PM
Luiz did not overly celebrate when scoring
probably on his way

When is the transfer deadline?

Tomorrow night I think. Difficult to know if they’ll trust him with any more money. I mean we really need players but god knows who he’s after.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: villabear on August 31, 2022, 10:53:02 PM
Why is Konsa playing instead of Chambers?

He's a better player, much better I'd argue. Just stuck in a rut like most of them. Thought Konsa was a long way down our list of problems tonight.

Strongly disagree sorry. I don’t think Chambers has let us down when he’s played.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: RichardBatchelor on August 31, 2022, 10:53:32 PM
Gerrard is getting an incredibly easy ride by ex-players. Dublin and James Collins basically defending him on the basis that he's young and is gonna make a great manager. No worries, then!

Keown, and Chris Sutton, were very critical of our tactics. But the team organisation is just so poor. Spaces everywhere...full back to centre back, the defensive line, Kamara to the other two midfielders, front 3 and midfield. Watkins and the two narrow forwards. No wonder we can't keep the ball, there's no cohesion at all with and without the ball.

Martinez 3 - at fault for two goals and hiding on line again.
Cash 5 - average defender at this level and regressing going forward. Awful defending for their winner
Konsa 6 - bullied by Jesus for that yellow but was decent in the main
Mings 6 - solid enough for me
Digne 4 - rubbish defender and a terrible signing. Bullied by Saka. Mugged off buying him
Kamara 6 - battled hard I thought but the midfield unit sunk
Ramsey 6 - probably a 3 in first half, unable to track runners and their first came from that but much better second half
McGinn 5 - tried hard first half but anonymous second bar his yellow
Buendia 4 - shite, kept giving ball away
Watkins 6 - same as Ramsey, vastly improved second half
Bailey 6 - some really smart touches at times but needs to do a lot more

Coutinho was ok when he came in on the left, Luiz scored a corner and trotted around avoiding tackles

I don’t care how bad we are, Sutton is poison, the Farage of football.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Legion on August 31, 2022, 10:57:53 PM
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/12686412/arsenal-2-1-aston-villa-premier-league-highlights
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: steamer on August 31, 2022, 11:02:20 PM
Gerrard is getting an incredibly easy ride by ex-players. Dublin and James Collins basically defending him on the basis that he's young and is gonna make a great manager. No worries, then!

Keown, and Chris Sutton, were very critical of our tactics. But the team organisation is just so poor. Spaces everywhere...full back to centre back, the defensive line, Kamara to the other two midfielders, front 3 and midfield. Watkins and the two narrow forwards. No wonder we can't keep the ball, there's no cohesion at all with and without the ball.

Martinez 3 - at fault for two goals and hiding on line again.
Cash 5 - average defender at this level and regressing going forward. Awful defending for their winner
Konsa 6 - bullied by Jesus for that yellow but was decent in the main
Mings 6 - solid enough for me
Digne 4 - rubbish defender and a terrible signing. Bullied by Saka. Mugged off buying him
Kamara 6 - battled hard I thought but the midfield unit sunk
Ramsey 6 - probably a 3 in first half, unable to track runners and their first came from that but much better second half
McGinn 5 - tried hard first half but anonymous second bar his yellow
Buendia 4 - shite, kept giving ball away
Watkins 6 - same as Ramsey, vastly improved second half
Bailey 6 - some really smart touches at times but needs to do a lot more

Coutinho was ok when he came in on the left, Luiz scored a corner and trotted around avoiding tackles
I watched the 1st half with Italian commentary as a  novel idea i made a note on moments
my notes show , 15 mins Mings hesitated, Arsenal guy beat him could have been a goal
24 mins Mings hoofed out for no reason
Goal Konsa/Martinez gifted it
39 mins Mings and Martinez fucked up again
Second half found English commentary , stopped making notes
An overall 5 for me for most, I think the 6 for Mings was generous.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: cdward on August 31, 2022, 11:02:28 PM
I was expecting worse, result wise. So I’m calling it a positive.
But the performance was typical SG. Shite.
On another day they would have been out of sight by 4 goals at half time.
Second half I thought a decent manager would have us competing with these.
It’s not the lack of quality in the players, it’s the manager.
19th in the league, and MCity up next.
We won’t win another game under SG.
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Post by: Clampy on August 31, 2022, 11:05:41 PM
Gerrard is getting an incredibly easy ride by ex-players. Dublin and James Collins basically defending him on the basis that he's young and is gonna make a great manager. No worries, then!

Keown, and Chris Sutton, were very critical of our tactics. But the team organisation is just so poor. Spaces everywhere...full back to centre back, the defensive line, Kamara to the other two midfielders, front 3 and midfield. Watkins and the two narrow forwards. No wonder we can't keep the ball, there's no cohesion at all with and without the ball.

Martinez 3 - at fault for two goals and hiding on line again.
Cash 5 - average defender at this level and regressing going forward. Awful defending for their winner
Konsa 6 - bullied by Jesus for that yellow but was decent in the main
Mings 6 - solid enough for me
Digne 4 - rubbish defender and a terrible signing. Bullied by Saka. Mugged off buying him
Kamara 6 - battled hard I thought but the midfield unit sunk
Ramsey 6 - probably a 3 in first half, unable to track runners and their first came from that but much better second half
McGinn 5 - tried hard first half but anonymous second bar his yellow
Buendia 4 - shite, kept giving ball away
Watkins 6 - same as Ramsey, vastly improved second half
Bailey 6 - some really smart touches at times but needs to do a lot more

Coutinho was ok when he came in on the left, Luiz scored a corner and trotted around avoiding tackles
I watched the 1st half with Italian commentary as a  novel idea i made a note on moments
my notes show , 15 mins Mings hesitated, Arsenal guy beat him could have been a goal
24 mins Mings hoofed out for no reason
Goal Konsa/Martinez gifted it
39 mins Mings and Martinez fucked up again
Second half found English commentary , stopped making notes
An overall 5 for me for most, I think the 6 for Mings was generous.


What a pointless post. Well done with those 'notes'.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 31, 2022, 11:09:05 PM
Were any of his notes wrong?
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: pauliewalnuts on August 31, 2022, 11:10:45 PM
Not sure how that post is particularly pointless
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Clampy on August 31, 2022, 11:10:59 PM
Were any of his notes wrong?

I just found them pointless bearing in mind he wasnt  responsible for any of our goals. Besides, we had another ten players on that pitch.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Goldie.7 on August 31, 2022, 11:11:20 PM
Why is Konsa playing instead of Chambers?
Gerrard is picking the team.

lolz.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: villadelph on August 31, 2022, 11:12:59 PM
Why is Konsa playing instead of Chambers?
Gerrard is picking the team.

lolz.

Critchley is the manager, Gerrard just wears a nice suit and gets the microphone.

Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 31, 2022, 11:14:42 PM
Were any of his notes wrong?

I think he's the first to point out the first goal was not just Martinez's fault. It took a deflection off Konza.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 31, 2022, 11:15:43 PM
Seems the right thread to talk about how players did in the game. And there's nothing he mentioned that isn't true.
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Post by: olaftab on August 31, 2022, 11:20:26 PM
Were any of his notes wrong?

I think he's the first to point out the first goal was not just Martinez's fault. It took a deflection off Konza.
Still his fault as he was the last man to touch the ball.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: cdward on August 31, 2022, 11:21:00 PM
Thought our supporters tonight were great, heard lots of singing.
Anyone know what the reaction was at full time?
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Steve67 on August 31, 2022, 11:21:59 PM
Just watched the highlights again, defensively akin to the Keystone Cops. Players on the floor, others ball watching and not marking.  This is rotten to the core and Gerrard has lost any grip he had.
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Post by: darren woolley on August 31, 2022, 11:33:21 PM
I'm left disappointed again leaving a Villa match our fans got behind the team but we need to improve.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: richtheholtender on August 31, 2022, 11:40:55 PM
Gerrard is getting an incredibly easy ride by ex-players. Dublin and James Collins basically defending him on the basis that he's young and is gonna make a great manager. No worries, then!

Keown, and Chris Sutton, were very critical of our tactics. But the team organisation is just so poor. Spaces everywhere...full back to centre back, the defensive line, Kamara to the other two midfielders, front 3 and midfield. Watkins and the two narrow forwards. No wonder we can't keep the ball, there's no cohesion at all with and without the ball.

Martinez 3 - at fault for two goals and hiding on line again.
Cash 5 - average defender at this level and regressing going forward. Awful defending for their winner
Konsa 6 - bullied by Jesus for that yellow but was decent in the main
Mings 6 - solid enough for me
Digne 4 - rubbish defender and a terrible signing. Bullied by Saka. Mugged off buying him
Kamara 6 - battled hard I thought but the midfield unit sunk
Ramsey 6 - probably a 3 in first half, unable to track runners and their first came from that but much better second half
McGinn 5 - tried hard first half but anonymous second bar his yellow
Buendia 4 - shite, kept giving ball away
Watkins 6 - same as Ramsey, vastly improved second half
Bailey 6 - some really smart touches at times but needs to do a lot more

Coutinho was ok when he came in on the left, Luiz scored a corner and trotted around avoiding tackles
I watched the 1st half with Italian commentary as a  novel idea i made a note on moments
my notes show , 15 mins Mings hesitated, Arsenal guy beat him could have been a goal
24 mins Mings hoofed out for no reason
Goal Konsa/Martinez gifted it
39 mins Mings and Martinez fucked up again
Second half found English commentary , stopped making notes
An overall 5 for me for most, I think the 6 for Mings was generous.


What a pointless post. Well done with those 'notes'.




Do you just attack everybody? Or do you just randomly lash out?
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Risso on August 31, 2022, 11:48:01 PM
You get used to him after a while.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: TonyD on August 31, 2022, 11:49:17 PM
Was in Islington this evening. Saw loads of Villa fans. Everywhere
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: placeforparks on August 31, 2022, 11:49:54 PM
some boos at half time and full time. couple of gerrard out chants. but lots of people didn’t stick around.

buendia, mings, ings, mcginn, ramsey, konsa and martinez clapped the away support.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: brontebilly on August 31, 2022, 11:50:05 PM
Gerrard is getting an incredibly easy ride by ex-players. Dublin and James Collins basically defending him on the basis that he's young and is gonna make a great manager. No worries, then!

Keown, and Chris Sutton, were very critical of our tactics. But the team organisation is just so poor. Spaces everywhere...full back to centre back, the defensive line, Kamara to the other two midfielders, front 3 and midfield. Watkins and the two narrow forwards. No wonder we can't keep the ball, there's no cohesion at all with and without the ball.

Martinez 3 - at fault for two goals and hiding on line again.
Cash 5 - average defender at this level and regressing going forward. Awful defending for their winner
Konsa 6 - bullied by Jesus for that yellow but was decent in the main
Mings 6 - solid enough for me
Digne 4 - rubbish defender and a terrible signing. Bullied by Saka. Mugged off buying him
Kamara 6 - battled hard I thought but the midfield unit sunk
Ramsey 6 - probably a 3 in first half, unable to track runners and their first came from that but much better second half
McGinn 5 - tried hard first half but anonymous second bar his yellow
Buendia 4 - shite, kept giving ball away
Watkins 6 - same as Ramsey, vastly improved second half
Bailey 6 - some really smart touches at times but needs to do a lot more

Coutinho was ok when he came in on the left, Luiz scored a corner and trotted around avoiding tackles
I watched the 1st half with Italian commentary as a  novel idea i made a note on moments
my notes show , 15 mins Mings hesitated, Arsenal guy beat him could have been a goal
24 mins Mings hoofed out for no reason
Goal Konsa/Martinez gifted it
39 mins Mings and Martinez fucked up again
Second half found English commentary , stopped making notes
An overall 5 for me for most, I think the 6 for Mings was generous.

Not really sure how Konsa was to blame for first. Ramsey didn't track I think it was Xhaka's run down that right channel so he went to him. Maybe he could have played offside, which we don't seem to do any more, but with no pressure on pass always risky. Mings maybe could have been sharper to the rebound but Martinez should be dealing with that easily. Thought Mings cleared a lot of ball next to a clueless left back, granted last ditch stuff.

All season, it has been far too easy for opposition midfielders to get at our centre backs. Why Gerrard sticks with this 3 in midfield I'll never know. Deano did the same when we first came up with the "2 8s" and we used get rinsed most games. At least he eventually changed it and shifted Grealish to the left.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: villadelph on August 31, 2022, 11:53:25 PM
Just read McGinn’s post-match interview with the BBC.. says it isn’t the managers fault and things don’t turn overnight. I thought Konsa usually does the interviews?
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: cdward on August 31, 2022, 11:56:04 PM
some boos at half time and full time. couple of gerrard out chants. but lots of people didn’t stick around.

buendia, mings, ings, mcginn, ramsey, konsa and martinez clapped the away support.
Good to hear the players are still engaging with supporters.
Hopefully it doesn’t change.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Axl Rose on September 01, 2022, 12:13:53 AM
The highlight for me was just not to have to watch it, to be honest.

Up at 6:30am, game had finished, checked score, was relieved it wasn't a massacre, and then had a cup of tea.
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Post by: Pat McMahon on September 01, 2022, 12:15:12 AM
There was a big gap between Buendia coming over and the others who came 30 seconds later after handshakes with the Arsenal players,

No booing, but plenty of resentment. One bloke had a sign saying “Stevie G go and ruin your own club”

I think Saturday could be a turning point if we capitulate. Anger is bubbling and there is no clear playing style
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Post by: Skerra on September 01, 2022, 12:21:36 AM
Could be bottom tomorrow evening if Leicester win. Not looking great at all either way. Of course things will change on Saturday when we show Citeh what they’ve been missing by not signing anymore of our players….only kidding of course.
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Post by: Rory on September 01, 2022, 12:26:15 AM
The highlight for me was just not to have to watch it, to be honest.

Up at 6:30am, game had finished, checked score, was relieved it wasn't a massacre, and then had a cup of tea.

What kind of tea?
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Post by: cdbearsfan on September 01, 2022, 12:27:25 AM
I hope he didn't have any milk, Japanese people think dairy is weird and smelly, I've heard. Possibly from Axl...
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Pat McMahon on September 01, 2022, 12:27:45 AM
The highlight for me was just not to have to watch it, to be honest.

Up at 6:30am, game had finished, checked score, was relieved it wasn't a massacre, and then had a cup of tea.

What kind of tea?
I knew Axl in China - he drinks tea with whisky for breakfast
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Post by: eamonn on September 01, 2022, 12:27:50 AM
Might be one for "Other Games" but just seen the West Ham-Spurs highlights on MOTD. A handball incident very similar to Digne at Palace but more blatantly a penalty but not given. Conte nearly lost his wig over the decision.
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Post by: Pat McMahon on September 01, 2022, 12:32:53 AM
I hope he didn't have any milk, Japanese people think dairy is weird and smelly, I've heard. Possibly from Axl...

My former next door neighbour was a professor of genetics and anthropology. When I lived in Shanghai he was invited to lecture at one of the universities there.

I got the shorthand version of his research in the pub after and he said that as a geneticist the absence of dairy to incorporating it in the diet of tens of millions of Chinese ( middle class Chinese have fallen for coffee shops in a big way, partly the drinks, partly the hanging out lifestyle) was a massive focus of interest for academics.
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Post by: Pat McMahon on September 01, 2022, 12:34:00 AM
….over the course of 20-30 years
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Rory on September 01, 2022, 12:34:00 AM
The highlight for me was just not to have to watch it, to be honest.

Up at 6:30am, game had finished, checked score, was relieved it wasn't a massacre, and then had a cup of tea.

What kind of tea?
I knew Axl in China - he drinks tea with whisky for breakfast

Aye, but black or green, Pat?

I knew a lad whose family were from Kilkenny. Instead of milk and/or sugar, he had his tea with whiskey and butter, and said it was a family tradition.

Weirdo.
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Post by: olaftab on September 01, 2022, 12:42:54 AM
Butter is just a no no on the other hand Ghee is just the job.😆
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Post by: eamonn on September 01, 2022, 12:44:37 AM
As a Kilkenny person, I can honestly say I've never heard of or witnessed such filth.
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Post by: Rory on September 01, 2022, 12:51:09 AM
As a Kilkenny person, I can honestly say I've never heard of or witnessed such filth.

Oh I have no doubt, Eamonn. We were a pair of plastic paddies, and I think his jealousy of my name motivated him to make all sorts of ridiculous claims to 'prove' his Irishness.
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Post by: Rory on September 01, 2022, 12:52:00 AM
Butter is just a no no on the other hand Ghee is just the job.😆

Fucking hell Aftab, I hope you get a heart scan every six months!
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Post by: tomd2103 on September 01, 2022, 01:00:42 AM
Slightly better in the second half, but it's difficult to see what we are trying to do and we look so disjointed when we have the ball. 

 Confidence has completely drained from a lot of them (Cash, Konsa, Digne in particular) and we look that dreaded mix of vulnerable at the back and toothless in attack. 

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Post by: Smirker on September 01, 2022, 01:27:53 AM
I'm absolutely sick of Gerrard.

Sack him yesterday and get Pochettino in.
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Post by: ROBBO on September 01, 2022, 01:41:00 AM
You have to cast your mind back but remember when Konsa and Mings led a very decent defense, solid they were,  Konsa was being touted for an England spot. Ramsey forced his way into the side through sheer talent, his driving runs
had us all on our feet, Watkins was actually scoring quite regularly and even McGinn had a spark about him. It does well to look back because they all were, at some time quality players, so the talent is there. The defence started to faulter once Terry's influence had gone. Ramsey has had too much asked of him, still say in a better coached side he would be brilliant, Watkins has no service whatsoever and McGinn is not a midfielder full stop. To me it's all in the coaching, players are confused, the full backs are being asked to do the impossible and the club have failed to strengthen in midfield. Gerrard has tried to fit square pegs in to round holes to play to his preferred format, whatever that may be. We are confused, the players are confused and Gerrard needs to go quickly.
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Post by: Villafirst on September 01, 2022, 03:50:17 AM
What a complete shambles. Gerrard has made terrible decisions with this squad and new signings. This could easily turnout as bad as 2015/16. Get rid of Gerrard asap.
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Post by: holteender1 on September 01, 2022, 06:29:16 AM
I think the performance was far better than against West Ham so we should  cling to that at least.
We need to think that we wont be playing sides as good as that every week.
The passion, experience and tactics of Gerrard will filter through in the end.
We should also remember
Arsenal are top of the league - FACT. Jesus is a world class striker who can tie you up in knots - FACT.

Its unlikely we'll get much out of our next home game so we should treat it as experience only and not get too concerned. Its the games after that where you'll see Gerrards true colours, he'll come good, mark my words....hes a winner - FACT!


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Post by: ChicagoLion on September 01, 2022, 06:35:30 AM
I think the performance was far better than against West Ham so we should  cling to that at least.
We need to think that we wont be playing sides as good as that every week.
The passion, experience and tactics of Gerrard will filter through in the end.
We should also remember
Arsenal are top of the league - FACT. Jesus is a world class striker who can tie you up in knots - FACT.

Its unlikely we'll get much out of our next home game so we should treat it as experience only and not get too concerned. Its the games after that where you'll see Gerrards true colours, he'll come good, mark my words....hes a winner - FACT!
I feel much better now I know the FACTS.
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Post by: Bad English on September 01, 2022, 06:38:32 AM
I usually write BOLLOCKS. Perhaps I should handily indicate it for other posters.

Gerrard just needs time to find his best eleven. BOLLOCKS!
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Post by: VILLA MOLE on September 01, 2022, 06:39:27 AM
anyone else say Facts in a Spanish accent in their head
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Post by: RamboandBruno on September 01, 2022, 06:55:24 AM
I think the performance was far better than against West Ham so we should  cling to that at least.
We need to think that we wont be playing sides as good as that every week.
The passion, experience and tactics of Gerrard will filter through in the end.
We should also remember
Arsenal are top of the league - FACT. Jesus is a world class striker who can tie you up in knots - FACT.

Its unlikely we'll get much out of our next home game so we should treat it as experience only and not get too concerned. Its the games after that where you'll see Gerrards true colours, he'll come good, mark my words....hes a winner - FACT!
Genius

FACT
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: sid1964 on September 01, 2022, 06:56:41 AM
He has to go - we need a change in Management.

It was surprising that we were not losing 3-0 at half time

If we don't change manager by the weekend -  I would imagine if we go a goal down early it could turn really nasty from the crowd towards Gerrard
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: PaulTheVillan on September 01, 2022, 06:57:16 AM
I think it’ll be a caretaker for the weekend and an appointment for after that game.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: johnc on September 01, 2022, 07:01:44 AM
He has to go - we need a change in Management.

It was surprising that we were not losing 3-0 at half time

If we don't change manager by the weekend -  I would imagine if we go a goal down early it could turn really nasty from the crowd towards Gerrard
There is no”if” about it. We will be a goal down within 10 mins. Haaland will not be as wasteful as the Arsenal players.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: KRS on September 01, 2022, 07:12:28 AM
Is holteender1 a troll account taking the piss?
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Ads on September 01, 2022, 08:36:47 AM
Another nice evening interrupted by the football.

There was more effort, but very last ditch first half, as both McGinn and Ramsey evaporated like water on a hot day. No control in midfield of possession or territory. No real out ball either. Mings hit it long down the left to nobody in particular, McGinn hooked it wode right a few times. When we did get in the final third, we didn't know what to do and created one tame effort.

Consistently Bailey looks to find the full back to cross, which doesn't make a huge deal of sense to me.

Felt sorry for Kamara being effectively on his own in there. It baffles me why McGinn is picked and Ramsey is so out of form.

Even after the subs and the reversion to 442, there were still times when we had 3 lined up wide. Watkins and Ings aren't Benteke, they're not going to bully the opposition in the air.

There's a lack of joined up thinking in how we set up and there's no signs of improvement.

Arsenal are a decent side, first half they could have had a few more, but I thought they were poor 2nd and once you're back in the game, see it out. 2 really poor errors from Martinez though and if you're going to do that, no matter who you are, you're going to struggle.

I'm still of the belief that this squad is performing less than the sum of its parts and ought to be capable of 12th-10th. It needs a centre forward and a mobile midfielder desperately and a centre half stop gap. If we keep performing as we are and losing then Gerrard will only have himself to blame when he's inevitably let go.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: holteender1 on September 01, 2022, 08:38:57 AM
All im saying is...give him time, some of us have short memories...we were right behind him a few months ago. Perhaps a honeymoon period, maybe.
FFS Arsenal are an excellent team, im not getting on his back so early, im not a sheep. Halfway through the season, id agree with you. But its way too early chum.

Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on September 01, 2022, 08:43:14 AM
I'm not sure holteender1 has the pedigree. The fact of the matter is we don't winalot!   
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Risso on September 01, 2022, 08:43:17 AM
Another nice evening interrupted by the football.


Yep had a great afternoon before hand. A dead easy ground to get to with the tube being one stop from King's Cross/St Pancras. Absolutely hundreds of pubs/restaurants within walking distance, so you could do the typical away club "full of Villa" if you wanted, or go somehwere a bit quieter as well. The Emirates is a really good stadium, with a decent atmosphere although I suppose that's a result of them doing well at the moment.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: cdbearsfan on September 01, 2022, 08:44:31 AM
It was certainly the loudest I remember hearing their ground, although you can't always tell on the telly.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: WarszaVillan on September 01, 2022, 08:52:19 AM
Another nice evening interrupted by the football.

There was more effort, but very last ditch first half, as both McGinn and Ramsey evaporated like water on a hot day. No control in midfield of possession or territory. No real out ball either. Mings hit it long down the left to nobody in particular, McGinn hooked it wode right a few times. When we did get in the final third, we didn't know what to do and created one tame effort.

Consistently Bailey looks to find the full back to cross, which doesn't make a huge deal of sense to me.

Felt sorry for Kamara being effectively on his own in there. It baffles me why McGinn is picked and Ramsey is so out of form.

Even after the subs and the reversion to 442, there were still times when we had 3 lined up wide. Watkins and Ings aren't Benteke, they're not going to bully the opposition in the air.

There's a lack of joined up thinking in how we set up and there's no signs of improvement.

Arsenal are a decent side, first half they could have had a few more, but I thought they were poor 2nd and once you're back in the game, see it out. 2 really poor errors from Martinez though and if you're going to do that, no matter who you are, you're going to struggle.

I'm still of the belief that this squad is performing less than the sum of its parts and ought to be capable of 12th-10th. It needs a centre forward and a mobile midfielder desperately and a centre half stop gap. If we keep performing as we are and losing then Gerrard will only have himself to blame when he's inevitably let go.

I agree with all of this, apart from I thought Ramsey had a good second half.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on September 01, 2022, 09:06:37 AM
It was certainly the loudest I remember hearing their ground, although you can't always tell on the telly.

They were very noisy. Understandable I suppose, given their start to the season. Although I did notice that they had what looked like a Crystal Palace-style Ultras section behind the goal. It looked like a few dozen kids  in black clobber trying to create “scenes” or whatever they call it. All looked a bit embarrassing to a miserable old cynic like me.

Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: LukeJames on September 01, 2022, 09:09:30 AM
It was certainly the loudest I remember hearing their ground, although you can't always tell on the telly.

They were very noisy. Understandable I suppose, given their start to the season. Although I did notice that they had what looked like a Crystal Palace-style Ultras section behind the goal. It looked like a few dozen kids  in black clobber trying to create “scenes” or whatever they call it. All looked a bit embarrassing to a miserable old cynic like me.
I watched there game against Fulham on Saturday and noticed that Crystal Palace style manufactured atmosphere section. Tragic.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Brend'Watkins on September 01, 2022, 09:17:27 AM
Arsenal are full of confidence, we have none.  Even so it was a slight improvement from the weekend.  Bailey was good here and there and Kamara decent throughout. It didn't help that our two Argentinians had very poor games by their standards with the goalkeeping one at fault for both goals and lucky, very lucky, not to concede a penalty. I suppose we did well not to concede more than one first half but that one incident where they were peppering our goal where it seemed everyone of their players were about to score, had they done so it would have been ruled out by VAR for a handball by Jesus with the first attempt.

Gerrard should be given the boot but I think that will now be after Saturday as it's pretty much a lost cause.  Unless of course they sack him now and let Gary Mac be interim while thay get their new man. Gerrard is not going to turn this around.

Incidentally, getting access to the site during games seems to be worse than ever, anyone else having similar problems?
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: The Edge on September 01, 2022, 09:23:50 AM
Arsenal are full of confidence, we have none.  Even so it was a slight improvement from the weekend.  Bailey was good here and there and Kamara decent throughout. It didn't help that our two Argentinians had very poor games by their standards with the goalkeeping one at fault for both goals and lucky, very lucky, not to concede a penalty. I suppose we did well not to concede more than one first half but that one incident where they were peppering our goal where it seemed everyone of their players were about to score, had they done so it would have been ruled out by VAR for a handball by Jesus with the first attempt.

Gerrard should be given the boot but I think that will now be after Saturday as it's pretty much a lost cause.  Unless of course they sack him now and let Gary Mac be interim while thay get their new man. Gerrard is not going to turn this around.

Incidentally, getting access to the site during games seems to be worse than ever, anyone else having similar problems?
I had the same problem and gave up trying to post in the second half. I expect it's to do with the amount of people trying to post at the same time but I don't know if that's something that can be cured. I'm not particularly tech savvy.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: JD on September 01, 2022, 10:14:01 AM
All im saying is...give him time, some of us have short memories...we were right behind him a few months ago. Perhaps a honeymoon period, maybe.
FFS Arsenal are an excellent team, im not getting on his back so early, im not a sheep. Halfway through the season, id agree with you. But its way too early chum.



Stevie G, is that you?
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 01, 2022, 10:36:30 AM
Arsenal are a more than decent side at the moment, but that scoreline flatters us.

Disappointing to see that we manage to get level somehow only to piss it away meekly minutes later.

This team has no collective heart, and even less confidence, and that is down to the manager. Yes, individuals had poor games and made errors, but this all stems from the top - these are not top eight players, but neither are they a 19th in the league squad, either.

For me, though the scoreline was not, what happened on the pitch was cringemaking, they were so much better than us in absolutely every department. We looked like a League One side getting a big match away in the FAC 3rd round and just working hard and hoping for something to happen.

Man City will murder us. We'll then give him Leicester and Southampton and that'll be over 20% of the season gone and we'll be rock bottom, or very near it.

Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 01, 2022, 10:39:01 AM
All im saying is...give him time, some of us have short memories...we were right behind him a few months ago. Perhaps a honeymoon period, maybe.
FFS Arsenal are an excellent team, im not getting on his back so early, im not a sheep. Halfway through the season, id agree with you. But its way too early chum.



12 points from the last 16 games
26 points from the last 26 games

Baaaaaaaaa
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: RamboandBruno on September 01, 2022, 10:55:43 AM
Arsenal are a more than decent side at the moment, but that scoreline flatters us.

Disappointing to see that we manage to get level somehow only to piss it away meekly minutes later.

This team has no collective heart, and even less confidence, and that is down to the manager. Yes, individuals had poor games and made errors, but this all stems from the top - these are not top eight players, but neither are they a 19th in the league squad, either.

For me, though the scoreline was not, what happened on the pitch was cringemaking, they were so much better than us in absolutely every department. We looked like a League One side getting a big match away in the FAC 3rd round and just working hard and hoping for something to happen.

Man City will murder us. We'll then give him Leicester and Southampton and that'll be over 20% of the season gone and we'll be rock bottom, or very near it.

For the first time in many many years i really don’t want to go on Saturday, i will of course. Its only two years since they dicked us 6-1 at home but there was still a sense of delusional perhaps, hope after promotion and with Grealish in tow. The way they are playing and our regilar shit show, this really could be something similar. But whilst that 6-1 was met with disappointment and a bit of embarrassment, if/when we get tonked on Saturday, the  atmosphere will be bloody vile, especially with people having the afternoon to drink.
Its now beyond absurd thinking he can turn this around, i don’t understand the logic of giving him Saturdays game, if we get battered and he still gets Southampton and Leicester its actually huge culpability on behalf of the club. Far better now to have a caretaker to try and settle things for a couple of weeks until we get someone else in.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Dave P on September 01, 2022, 11:02:35 AM
All im saying is...give him time, some of us have short memories...we were right behind him a few months ago. Perhaps a honeymoon period, maybe.
FFS Arsenal are an excellent team, im not getting on his back so early, im not a sheep. Halfway through the season, id agree with you. But its way too early chum.



You're slipping into the narritive the media is feeding us.  It's not just this season, it a culmination of the past 8 or 9 months.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: usav on September 01, 2022, 12:54:00 PM
All im saying is...give him time, some of us have short memories...we were right behind him a few months ago. Perhaps a honeymoon period, maybe.
FFS Arsenal are an excellent team, im not getting on his back so early, im not a sheep. Halfway through the season, id agree with you. But its way too early chum.



You're slipping into the narritive the media is feeding us.  It's not just this season, it a culmination of the past 8 or 9 months.

Arteta was in this position 12 months ago and he was given time and turned it around.  Look, I'm not happy at the moment, but I'm prepared to give him a little more time.   At least until after the Leicester/Southampton games.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Goldenballs on September 01, 2022, 01:04:25 PM
All im saying is...give him time, some of us have short memories...we were right behind him a few months ago. Perhaps a honeymoon period, maybe.
FFS Arsenal are an excellent team, im not getting on his back so early, im not a sheep. Halfway through the season, id agree with you. But its way too early chum.



You're slipping into the narritive the media is feeding us.  It's not just this season, it a culmination of the past 8 or 9 months.

Arteta was in this position 12 months ago and he was given time and turned it around.  Look, I'm not happy at the moment, but I'm prepared to give him a little more time.   At least until after the Leicester/Southampton games.
Arteta wasn't churning out relegation performances weekly though.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Pete3206 on September 01, 2022, 01:07:02 PM
Arsenal lost the first 3 games with 2 of the teams being Man City and Chelsea. They then went on long a run of unbeaten games. I can't see where Villa's next point is coming from.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: brontebilly on September 01, 2022, 01:19:23 PM
To be fair, was it the first game last season they were pounded by Brentford? Similar to our Bournemouth effort. Arteta was wobbling then, no doubt about it. Reintegrating Xhaka was probably key, their fans absolutely hated him not too long ago. The trio of Martinelli, Odegaard and Saka have really kicked on too. Buendia turned them down to join us!
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Simon Page on September 01, 2022, 01:34:57 PM
Arsenal were in danger of not being in the top six, we're in danger of not being in the top division. That's the key difference between their start last year and our start this season.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: villadelph on September 01, 2022, 01:36:03 PM
All im saying is...give him time, some of us have short memories...we were right behind him a few months ago. Perhaps a honeymoon period, maybe.
FFS Arsenal are an excellent team, im not getting on his back so early, im not a sheep. Halfway through the season, id agree with you. But its way too early chum.



You're slipping into the narritive the media is feeding us.  It's not just this season, it a culmination of the past 8 or 9 months.

Arteta was in this position 12 months ago and he was given time and turned it around.  Look, I'm not happy at the moment, but I'm prepared to give him a little more time.   At least until after the Leicester/Southampton games.

They weren't nearly as bad as we were. They had a culture in place, a system and a real manager.

Oh, and then they bought Odegaard (40m), Ben White (65m), Ramsdale (30m) Sambi (20m), Tomiyasu (20m) and Tavares (10m)..

A little bit different.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: RichardBatchelor on September 01, 2022, 05:10:56 PM
All im saying is...give him time, some of us have short memories...we were right behind him a few months ago. Perhaps a honeymoon period, maybe.
FFS Arsenal are an excellent team, im not getting on his back so early, im not a sheep. Halfway through the season, id agree with you. But its way too early chum.



You're slipping into the narritive the media is feeding us.  It's not just this season, it a culmination of the past 8 or 9 months.

Arteta was in this position 12 months ago and he was given time and turned it around.  Look, I'm not happy at the moment, but I'm prepared to give him a little more time.   At least until after the Leicester/Southampton games.

They weren't nearly as bad as we were. They had a culture in place, a system and a real manager.

Oh, and then they bought Odegaard (40m), Ben White (65m), Ramsdale (30m) Sambi (20m), Tomiyasu (20m) and Tavares (10m)..

A little bit different.

Yes, our performances have been worse than our results, apart from Bournemouth, where both were terrible.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: dcdavecollett on September 07, 2022, 12:45:13 AM
Managed to get on the ball at last in the second half. Before then it was just waves of home attacks which we at least stood up to.

Having clawed our way back into the game we of course then threw it away by conceding another soft goal almost immediately.
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Meanwood Villa on September 07, 2022, 07:30:16 AM
Hot off the press
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: Ian. on September 07, 2022, 08:13:40 AM
Has dcdave been asleep since that game? 🤣
Title: Re: Arsenal -2 Aston Villa - 1 Post Match Rant Fest.
Post by: dcdavecollett on September 07, 2022, 11:48:51 PM
To be fair, I'm wide awake now.
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