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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Drummond on August 20, 2022, 05:18:38 PM
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Not much to say.
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Someone had to do it..
McGinn, Digne and Konsa were 0/10 for me.
I can’t believe this is where we are with a full and decent preseason. I hope the owners can be as ruthless and driven as they claim to be. We will finish lower than last year going this route.
Leon, Buendia, Emi (barring some poor distribution) and Coutinho are the only ones to come away with any sort of credit.
This is pretty dire stuff and if we stick with this variant of a 4-3-3 we will continue to get thrashed. We couldn’t get the ball to Ollie or Leon for the majority of the game.
Sadly, I don’t see this ending well. I’m angry with myself already checking to see when we will get some relief with the World Cup break.
If you thought Gerrard was under pressure before, he’s up against it now. Lord knows what the table will look like after we play Citeh the first week of September.
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Positives
It was only 3
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Gerrard out. That is all.
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3 wins in 14. After the next three games it'll be 3 in 17.
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It’s time. Already. Disappointed. Very angry at today’s performance. There’s a gulf developing between where we are and where our rivals are.
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Schooled by Crystal Palace!! Crystal Fucking Palace!!! Let that sink in.
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Disappointing.
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We either bring in another couple of quality players, sensible, winners, or we are going to struggle. I don't know whether it's the Manager or the purchases as we seem as ordinary a fuck. I used the term Frankenstein's monster in the match thread and will stick to that.
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Shambles since Boxing Day. Improvement? We are worse than we were when Dean was sacked. Lower half finish again this season unless someone who knows what they are doing comes.in. The squad is better than this.
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We need a better manager. Urgently.
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We either bring in another couple of quality players, sensible, winners, or we are going to struggle. I don't know whether it's the Manager or the purchases as we seem as ordinary a fuck. I used the term Frankenstein's monster in the match thread and will stick to that.
Adding further expensive signings to the mix is like using £50 notes as sticking plasters! We have a squad MORE THAN capable of competing in the top half of the table - The manager however, far from it!
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All the things Gerrard was good at as a player we don’t posses. Drive, attitude, fight, awareness. Where’s the coaching.
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All the things Gerrard was good at as a player we don’t posses. Drive, attitude, fight, awareness. Where’s the coaching.
I’m interested to hear Footy’s opinion on the matter.
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There were a lot of negatives today. Konsa is shot. Digne’s defensive positioning is awful. We’re woefully short in midfield. Our defensive tactics are genuinely inept. Could have been 5 quite easily. Ramsey needs a break. McGinn should not be captain.
About the only positive is we did actually create a bit. A good earlygoal, Bailey hit the crossbar, a good save from Buendia and Olly’s half chance header late on is not terrible for an attacking return.
This is not the time or the place but I’m quite impressed with how Palace have built a decent side. I think they could be top 8 this year. But the lessons are there in that they’ve bought genuine young talent.
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All the things Gerrard was good at as a player we don’t posses. Drive, attitude, fight, awareness. Where’s the coaching.
With the number we have you would have thought some would be good but that might be the problem - too many of them.
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We either bring in another couple of quality players, sensible, winners, or we are going to struggle. I don't know whether it's the Manager or the purchases as we seem as ordinary a fuck. I used the term Frankenstein's monster in the match thread and will stick to that.
I’m.
Adding further expensive signings to the mix is like using £50 notes as sticking plasters! We have a squad MORE THAN capable of competing in the top half of the table - The manager however, far from it!
not sure. I think our midfield is absolute shite
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We either bring in another couple of quality players, sensible, winners, or we are going to struggle. I don't know whether it's the Manager or the purchases as we seem as ordinary a fuck. I used the term Frankenstein's monster in the match thread and will stick to that.
You could sign peak playing era Viera, Zidane and Shearer and we'd still look rank with these tactics.
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Positives
It was only 3
Negatives
Only 3 too..
the defence, the midfield and the attack.
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Someone mentioned it in the match thread - to perform like he has with all the noise in the background, Mings looks like the only leader out there. Mcginn a captain? I wouldn't even have him on the bench on current form.
I counted 4 times at least just in the second half that emi1 kicked it straight out of touch/to an opponent when trying to find cash as there were no other options at all. It's so easy to press us into hoof ball and we have no answers to it. Conversely we can't effectively press to save our fucking lives with Bournemouth and Palace playing through us at will. Looking forward to hearing what shite SG is going to spout tonight
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Everyone out
I am sick of being crap
No plan, no structure
Defence clueless , most lightweight, pussy midfield in league no presence up front
some fucking long haired twat as set ball specialist, did I imagine that cringeworthy attempt at a free kick towards the end ?
As for the manager, I have come off the fence, get rid.
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No doubt we’ll hear the same words from Gerrard when he speaks. Not good enough….it’s on him….blah blah blah.
The problem he is constantly having to excuse piss poor performances. Different players, different teams, different formations…..one common denominator.
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It was obvious early on that Eze and Zaha had the run of the park. A tactical. Switch should have been made to get tight on Eze and stop the ball into Zaha. We didn't, and it hit us.
The tactic of playing a powder puff midfield giving no protection to the back 4 and expecting Kamara to do it all is just fucking thick.
A bigger, physical presence is desperately needed in the middle.
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He's Tim Sherwood but without the charisma and tactical awareness.
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He's Tim Sherwood but without the charisma and tactical awareness.
Yep.
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Kamara didn't look like he'd been given a single instruction, at one point stopping, looking around and waving his hands in the air like 'what do I do now?'
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As we won’t be challenging for honours any time soon, it would be good if we established an identity like Palace have done in recent seasons. They are a club who have energy and a vibrancy about them whilst we play ambling, shambolic nonsense. Sadly, our manager is way off the right level and many of our players are too. Dismal.
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Most predictable result of the day.
I have a feeling that NSWE will back Germbert with at least one more big signing - maybe the no 8 who most of us would get on board with.
But we've got worse the more players SG has signed by the looks of things, so it brings its own risks.
Our best form under him was when he signed no one and made the most of what he had pre window, with Targett doing OK at left back (until Brentford away) and Marv doing well in a narrow three man midfield.
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He's Tim Sherwood but without the charisma and tactical awareness.
Finally something to make me smile.
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Poor.
A team starting with McGinn and Ramsey in midfield is not going to make the next level. They're too static and don't quite link up play between the defence and attack.
I was also concerned about our full backs today up against Palace's wide attacking players.
This is a team that appears to be regressing despite the fact we have an able squad. We had a starting 11 and bench that a lot of teams would love in the pl. Our manager does not know how to use the players at his disposal.
Only positive for me was Ollie's goal. He's contributed to all 3 of our goals this season so far.
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We either bring in another couple of quality players, sensible, winners, or we are going to struggle. I don't know whether it's the Manager or the purchases as we seem as ordinary a fuck. I used the term Frankenstein's monster in the match thread and will stick to that.
You could sign peak playing era Viera, Zidane and Shearer and we'd still look rank with these tactics.
[/quoteWe either bring in another couple of quality players, sensible, winners, or we are going to struggle. I don't know whether it's the Manager or the purchases as we seem as ordinary a fuck. I used the term Frankenstein's monster in the match thread and will stick to that.
You could sign peak playing era Viera, Zidane and Shearer and we'd still look rank with these tactics.
Spot on. He would make them look like shite within a month.
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This has all the evidence of a team / squad who aren't playing for the manager. Its been going on since Jan with the exception of Leeds x 2 and Southampton home
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He's Tim Sherwood but without the charisma and tactical awareness.
Perfectly put.
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Konsa, McGinn and Digne stinking the place out...and bloody hoofball is back.
Bruce out !
Passing, defending, crossing, possessing, football iq all absent. I expect a 14-16th place finish if SG gets the whole season.
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This has all the evidence of a team / squad who aren't playing for the manager. Its been going on since Jan with the exception of Leeds x 2 and Southampton home
I don’t agree with that. Think it’s a lack of quality and tactics not dissent at this point. Although it might not be long
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You could see us getting overrun in the midfield early on - and he did fuck all to combat it.
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On the fence so long it's collapsed under the weight of expectation, i pray someone somewhere can pull us away from the hole we seem determined to dig for ourselves, is it organisation, personnel, i have no idea, at least i'm not alone on that front.
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Fucking bastards.
Out muscled & out fought at every point of the game. Too easy to play against & too easy to score against. Where's the fight?
We need to go back to basics.
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Almost as shit as the Villa Park HT catering service, which just about edges it.
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Must have been nice to be in that Palarse dressing room at half time, near certain that you were going to win this one.
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And people call me a moaner and negative.
The club IS being destroyed by Purslow and co.
We've lost our identity , we talk up our chances or Europe and increase the prices. Yet today we had ONE different player on the pitch from last season.
The manager hasn't got a clue but the problems are far bigger than changing the manager
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Pretty horrible. There are several problems but one of the obvious ones is you can’t play attacking wingbacks and leave yourself so open. That’s a real flaw.
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Complete shit show. Basics of football, or any team sport, is that firstly you have to be able to physically compete. We aren't, we are getting bullied in nearly every area of the pitch. Other fundementals like team spirit are also sadly lacking, watch Ramsey's effort to track Hughes for that chance at the end as just one example. I think it all stems from tactical confusion really and a manager completely out of his depth.
Martinez 6 - couple of smart saves but very poor distribution at times and strangely stuck to his goal line throughout. Including the last goal.
Cash 4 - destroyed by an on fire Zaha. Got into loads of promising positions but Buendia chance aside made a mess of most of them.
Konsa 5 - dreadful first half but thought he was much better in the second, saving our bacon on a few occasions.
Mings 6 - the reverse of Konsa. But they got zero support from non existent full backs and midfield
Digne 2 - bullied by Jordan Ayew! Soft as shite and a dreadful signing.
Kamara 3 - complete passenger
Ramsey 3 - see above
McGinn 3 - see above, ref bottled giving him a deserved second yellow too
Bailey 5 - brilliant assist and shot but far too often he didn't protect the ball well enough, lost in this formation anyway
Watkins 5 - started well and an early goal. Then his shins turned into timber again and couldn't hold anything up. That was a sitter he missed at the end too.
Buendia 7 - excellent first half. Missed a big chance. Quieter after the break but ridiculous decision to hook him for Gerrard's mate.
Luiz was decent when he came on, despite not looking particularly fit. Other two hardly had a kick.
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We won't win many matches if we just meekly surrender the midfield week after week.
We got away with it against a piss poor side in Everton, but Bournemouth and Palace both dominated us in that part of the pitch.
I don't see how he and Critchley, McAllister, Danks and Rick Wakeman can sit on Monday and rewatch that shit show and not see the problem.
For a team that looks entirely uncoached, we have a massive coaching team.
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We either bring in another couple of quality players, sensible, winners, or we are going to struggle. I don't know whether it's the Manager or the purchases as we seem as ordinary a fuck. I used the term Frankenstein's monster in the match thread and will stick to that.
Adding further expensive signings to the mix is like using £50 notes as sticking plasters! We have a squad MORE THAN capable of competing in the top half of the table - The manager however, far from it!
Either sack the manager, or back him. If we don't, we are potentially in a relegation scrap.
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The problem is that we have NO midfield!
The defence is under constant pressure and Konsa particularly, is finished as a top flight player (what happened to him??) Matty Cash had no one ahead of him with Leon pushed wide right up front: Ramsey let the game pass him by wandering around on the left and Kamara and McGinn were bullied by the Palace midfield.
3 in midfield needs 5 at the back must never be tried again by Gerrard!!
The forwards were just given punted balls forward all day.
VERY poor and I can't see where SG is going with this formation --(apart from the dole queue!)
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Everyone out
I am sick of being crap
No plan, no structure
Defence clueless , most lightweight, pussy midfield in league no presence up front
some fucking long haired twat as set ball specialist, did I imagine that cringeworthy attempt at a free kick towards the end ?
As for the manager, I have come off the fence, get rid.
Thanks for the laugh, much needed! ;D
Nothing ever changes with us. We're stuck in a revolving loop of sadness. I've accepted it, so it doesn't hurt as much these days.
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Isn't Danks a secret-agent anyway like Ridgewell in reverse?
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Konsa 5 - dreadful first half but thought he was much better in the second, saving our bacon on a few occasions.
Does their third goal not count? What is Konsa doing by the throw-in line?
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That freekick at the end FFS!... 'Taxi for Wakeman?'
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Steven Gerrard: "The players need to pull together to find this consistency. The big moments went against us today. [Digne handball] was harsh, I'm not sure what else he could have done. I've got full confidence with this group."
No Steven. We were completely outplayed. Our goal aside the big, small and in between moments went against us. What the fuck were you watching?
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Throwing them under the bus again, that's not good.
How about taking some responsibility yourself?
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Game 'was in the balance' according to Sherwood 2.0
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Game 'was in the balance' according to Sherwood 2.0
He doesn’t have a fucking clue if he thinks that. Unless he was referring to when the two sides were lined up in the tunnel.
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Complete shit show. Basics of football, or any team sport, is that firstly you have to be able to physically compete. We aren't, we are getting bullied in nearly every area of the pitch. Other fundementals like team spirit are also sadly lacking, watch Ramsey's effort to track Hughes for that chance at the end as just one example. I think it all stems from tactical confusion really and a manager completely out of his depth.
Martinez 6 - couple of smart saves but very poor distribution at times and strangely stuck to his goal line throughout. Including the last goal.
Cash 4 - destroyed by an on fire Zaha. Got into loads of promising positions but Buendia chance aside made a mess of most of them.
Konsa 5 - dreadful first half but thought he was much better in the second, saving our bacon on a few occasions.
Mings 6 - the reverse of Konsa. But they got zero support from non existent full backs and midfield
Digne 2 - bullied by Jordan Ayew! Soft as shite and a dreadful signing.
Kamara 3 - complete passenger
Ramsey 3 - see above
McGinn 3 - see above, ref bottled giving him a deserved second yellow too
Bailey 5 - brilliant assist and shot but far too often he didn't protect the ball well enough, lost in this formation anyway
Watkins 5 - started well and an early goal. Then his shins turned into timber again and couldn't hold anything up. That was a sitter he missed at the end too.
Buendia 7 - excellent first half. Missed a big chance. Quieter after the break but ridiculous decision to hook him for Gerrard's mate.
Luiz was decent when he came on, despite not looking particularly fit. Other two hardly had a kick.
;D Konsa spent most of the game running back towards our goal chasing a Palace player! 3 is being very generous.
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Throwing them under the bus again, that's not good.
How about taking some responsibility yourself?
Unbelievable.
This man hasn’t a clue how to manage. The fans are wavering, would you like the dressing to do the same, Steven?
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All players score 0/10
Didn't see anything warranting a positive score.
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As is now customary, a lively start followed by a linear decline in quality, culminating in the sort of mind-bendingly bad football that would have a Sunday league team take a day off work on Monday for extra training.
I surmise NSWE's conversation with Gerrard this evening will be NSFW.
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I would say that things could have been very different if we score rather than nearly break the crossbar. But at the same time, that doesn't alter how poor we were for most of the game.
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First half, other than totally switching off for the goal straight after we scored, not too bad really. Bailey's pace caused a few problems and Digne was unluckly not to put us 2 up. Their offside looked iffy though.
Second half, after the ludricous penalty we fell apart. It needs to be better.
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I would say that things could have been very different if we score rather than nearly break the crossbar. But at the same time, that doesn't alter how poor we were for most of the game.
We are relying on moments of magic versus playing well for the majority of the game. Even if we had scored in all likelihood they would have scored again because we were overall really very poor.
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Very true.
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Konsa 5 - dreadful first half but thought he was much better in the second, saving our bacon on a few occasions.
Does their third goal not count? What is Konsa doing by the throw-in line?
Dragged over helping Cash out. Cross from a deep position, 1v1 in box and Mings should be dealing with it. Martinez can't be watching a striker volley in from the six yard box line either in that situation. Konsa was dreadful for the first, letting Zaha have a free shot with his left. Cash also rubbish for that one.
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Throwing them under the bus again, that's not good.
How about taking some responsibility yourself?
Unbelievable.
This man hasn’t a clue how to manage. The fans are wavering, would you like the dressing to do the same, Steven?
This seemed quite obvious when you saw how Coutinho starred in the first matches after being signed without being "coached" by our staff to how he is now.
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I would say that things could have been very different if we score rather than nearly break the crossbar. But at the same time, that doesn't alter how poor we were for most of the game.
We are relying on moments of magic versus playing well for the majority of the game. Even if we had scored in all likelihood they would have scored again because we were overall really very poor.
That was his whole career which is why he was dire for England. Fine when you have 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' set up for you with Alonso and Torres. Less fine when the equivalents are Ramsey and Ollie
He’s gotta go.
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Game 'was in the balance' according to Sherwood 2.0
At 1-1, it was.
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Game 'was in the balance' according to Sherwood 2.0
At 1-1, it was.
If Bailey had scored(he hit the bar) Villa would have been 2-1 up.
It was also not a penalty.
These are the margins.
However, the overall performance was disappointing.
This season, Villa have appeared to be struggling to find the right team balance away from home.
I was hoping we would build on last week's victory.
It's inconsistent, but it's still early in the season. It seems we could continue to have a mixed season as we strive to get where we want to go.
Though such a defeat again today can help Gerrard learn and improve what went wrong within the team and tactics.
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The bizarre thing is that our last game against citeh we looked pretty good but now I can’t see anything that remotely resembles our food if last season. And worse Gerrards post-match comments make me think it was a fluke
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Didnt see it but listened to whole game on talkshite 2. They sounded the better team, so f we go 2-1 up from Bailey who knows, but they sounded like they were slicing through our midfield.
Perry Groves co-commentating, said their offside goal was offside, bit their penalty was in no way a penalty, later on he also said we were dire and the main difference in the sides was Palace looked well coached and that the Villa players didn’t look like they had a clue what they were supposed to be doing. Pretty damming unfortunately.
Could of really done with a point at least with the three league games coming up, unless something radically clicks into gear starting to look a bit iffy. Fooking all a load of shite.
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I'm not saying we played great (and in the second half we definatley didn't) but var and the ref spent a fucking age looking at a handball and they still got it wrong. Some calming done and perspective is needed. (Blimey. I sound like footy).
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My frustration is that he hasn’t yet worked out that we can’t play with a midfield 3 with what we’ve got now. Kamara apart, they’ve been regularly overrun for a few seasons now and West Ham will do exactly the same next week. We cannot compete physically so let’s hope we get another in to sort it.
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Lets face it, other than the odd moment of joy, its been pretty toss for 12 years now. What a bloody shit show.
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My frustration is that he hasn’t yet worked out that we can’t play with a midfield 3 with what we’ve got now. Kamara apart, they’ve been regularly overrun for a few seasons now and West Ham will do exactly the same next week. We cannot compete physically so let’s hope we get another in to sort it.
I think it’s a combination of a couple of things. The personnel in midfield aren’t doing what they need to do if you’re setting up the team like this. At the same time the full backs are playing ultra attacking and the wide forwards aren’t tracking back (consistently). So it just means teams end up with huge pockets of space to attack.
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These owners have been fantastic for our club. I really do hope they are ruthless when it comes to underperforming.
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I'm not saying we played great (and in the second half we definatley didn't) but var and the ref spent a fucking age looking at a handball and they still got it wrong. Some calming done and perspective is needed. (Blimey. I sound like footy).
At the same token.. their goal ruled off was incredibly close.
Let’s be honest, the could’ve hit 5 or 6 if secret double agent Ayew didn’t spare us the blushes.
We were terrible and they were ready to take advantage of it.
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I'm not saying we played great (and in the second half we definatley didn't) but var and the ref spent a fucking age looking at a handball and they still got it wrong. Some calming done and perspective is needed. (Blimey. I sound like footy).
I thought the first half was arguably worse after they equalised. We were battered.
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Steven Gerrard: "The players need to pull together to find this consistency. The big moments went against us today. [Digne handball] was harsh, I'm not sure what else he could have done. I've got full confidence with this group."
No Steven. We were completely outplayed. Our goal aside the big, small and in between moments went against us. What the fuck were you watching?
To be honest we have nailed on the consitency - the problem is it is consistently shite
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Didnt see it but listened to whole game on talkshite 2. They sounded the better team, so f we go 2-1 up from Bailey who knows, but they sounded like they were slicing through our midfield.
Perry Groves co-commentating, said their offside goal was offside, bit their penalty was in no way a penalty, later on he also said we were dire and the main difference in the sides was Palace looked well coached and that the Villa players didn’t look like they had a clue what they were supposed to be doing. Pretty damming unfortunately.
Could of really done with a point at least with the three league games coming up, unless something radically clicks into gear starting to look a bit iffy. Fooking all a load of shite.
I had a stop start feed to watch it on. It gave up by half time. The bit I did see involved a corner flung in and Shlupp rose completely unmarked but headed wide. Appalling defending. We look as vulnerable as we did against Bournemouth. We have learned nothing from that opening day shambles. If he doesn't start getting results and we don't start looking like a team I predict he will be gone come the world cup break
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I thought he looked wobbly in the interview with Jonathan Pearce, probably for the first time since managing us.
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Same shit, different day. There are going to be very few positive statistics left to be posted soon.
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For a second I was wincing that he didn't know who Dennis Mortimer was, when Pearce mentioned him at the of his interview.
Probably thinking "Weren't he that Scouse bloke who played for Villa?" Unless he's paid attention to the photos around VP and learned a bit about the club's history.
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The writing might not be on the wall yet but Bansky is getting his aresoles out.
The problem is are midfield has been shite for years - and massively upgrading has to be done. We should have gone all in on JWP or bissoma last year.
The only teams we have beat in the last 13 are a Burnley, Norwich and an injury ravaged Everton.
We simply must get something from one of the next 3 otherwise I think he’ll be mortally wounded - I think will sick with him til at least the World Cup as I think there is too much invested in him - but if I was Nas or Wes I would be on the phone to Poch offering to make him the best paid manager in the world.
What’s so annoying is how completely predictable this all is.
We’ve had one manager in the last 12 years that has made us better. And we sacked him when he served up the shite SG is now with a weaker squad
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I'm not saying we played great (and in the second half we definatley didn't) but var and the ref spent a fucking age looking at a handball and they still got it wrong. Some calming done and perspective is needed.
Welcome to modern football, it's all gone a bit AFTV on here.
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Who watches football calmly and with perspective?
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I'm not saying we played great (and in the second half we definatley didn't) but var and the ref spent a fucking age looking at a handball and they still got it wrong. Some calming done and perspective is needed.
Welcome to modern football, it's all gone a bit AFTV on here.
We are looking bloody awful at the moment and this is the place for us to vent our feelings.
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I'm not saying we played great (and in the second half we definatley didn't) but var and the ref spent a fucking age looking at a handball and they still got it wrong. Some calming done and perspective is needed. (Blimey. I sound like footy).
He was shirt pulling at the same time.
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Who watches football calmly and with perspective?
I mean after the game, when its all done and dusted.
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The writing might not be on the wall yet but Bansky is getting his aresoles out.
The problem is are midfield has been shite for years - and massively upgrading has to be done. We should have gone all in on JWP or bissoma last year.
The only teams we have beat in the last 13 are a Burnley, Norwich and an injury ravaged Everton.
We simply must get something from one of the next 3 otherwise I think he’ll be mortally wounded - I think will sick with him til at least the World Cup as I think there is too much invested in him - but if I was Nas or Wes I would be on the phone to Poch offering to make him the best paid manager in the world.
What’s so annoying is how completely predictable this all is.
We’ve had one manager in the last 12 years that has made us better. And we sacked him when he served up the shite SG is now with a weaker squad
What's Banksy getting his arsehole out got to do with us playing crap today?
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https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/12677727/crystal-palace-3-1-aston-villa-premier-league-highlights
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Thanks Leeg.
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I’m waiting for the Big Buy that will suddenly make sense of what we have seen so far. The new and fabulous midfield / forward players that will convince me there’s a plan to what the lads are doing in training and why they can’t roll over hitherto inferior opposition.
There’s still a week to go.
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We need a turnaround and we need it quick. We score a goal against Everton, and they score within minutes. We score the opener today and Palace score within minutes. If there's a team as historically predistined to switch off after scoring it's us. Why is it, manager after manager we still have the same old problems again and again and again? Not limited to:
Conceding soon after scoring
Conceding late goals
Constant switching off.
Abysmal record in London
Abysmal record against Utd, Liverpool, City, Spurs, etc etc. Why do have innumerable bogey sides, and yet we only seem to be a fly in the ointment for Norwich fucking City, and maybe Everton at VP.
We look dreadful at passing and movement in comparison to most teams. We regularly come up second. This was the case even when we had effective gameplans to counter these issues (O Neill's counter-attacking side).
We've not found a consistently successful method of scoring goals since O Neill's side. Even then, he had no answer for teams sitting deep, because we seem immune to playing possession-based football. If Spursy is a thing, then we've definitely got Villa-(sh)itus. It doesn't wash off.
More immediate here-and-now issues that are particularly problematic:
The midfield balance is wrong. For me, this is probably a Ramsey plus McGinn issue. Together they don't work. Ramsey needs a rest. McGinn isn't consistent enough either. Particularly given his seniority now.
Mings is Mings. He comes back, point to prove, plays very well. This week? Dreadful again.
But what on Earth has happened to Konsa? His tracking of Zaha and attempt (or non attempt) to get to the ball was pathetic on their first. It was disturbingly half-assed. As much as Mings can be awful, it's not usually for the want of trying. My issue with Konsa right now is that for 18 months he was superb and looked like a great player. But the last 12 months have been crap. Chambers has to play now. I'd throw Hause in too once he's fit. I didn't think we particularly needed a signing to replace Carlos. I've changed my mind. Mings is a persistent liability, but Konsa's on-pitch efforts are frankly appalling at the moment.
Gerrard hasn't worked out the attacking formula. I don't think he'll play a system that'll fully utilise Bailey's talents. He also never quite figured Ings + Watkins. That worked when Coutinho was on form. Without him, it doesn't. Again, a big part of this is currently a lack of guile and composure in our 8 position. I feel like Buendia is combative enough to play there. Then play two 10's and one 9, or 2 9's- 1, 10.
3 games down. 7 to go on the Gerrard-o-meter. So far, so not too good.
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I'm sure I remember a comment from a Rangers fan along the lines of Gerrard once insisting that his plan B was "to do plan A better"
Certainly would not surprise me given the bilge that he's served up since the start of the year.
Loads on here argued Dean Smith had no plan B when things started going wrong. I'm yet to see that Gerrard has even a plan A, let alone plan B.
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I'm sure I remember a comment from a Rangers fan along the lines of Gerrard once insisting that his plan B was "to do plan A better"
Certainly would not surprise me given the bilge that he's served up since the start of the year.
Loads on here argued Dean Smith had no plan B when things started going wrong. I'm yet to see that Gerrard has even a plan A, let alone plan B.
Gerrard has a plan A. Unfortunately it appears that it's shitter than one of Baldrick's cunning plans.
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It was a shocking penalty decision but I saw nothing since they equalised to suggest that we were going to get anything from the game.
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* Don’t think we ever recovered after conceding the equaliser. After that, Palace we’re comfortably the better team and in the first half in particular, Zaha tortured us. Eze was brilliant and he must have been shocked that we made no adjustments in the game whatsoever to restrict him.
* Set pieces are still an issue. Defending against them is still a major problem, yet we continue to give away silly fouls around the box. Attacking wise, we had some very strange moves.
* Thought Cash, Martinez, Mings and (first half) Buendia played well. Konsa made one brilliant recovery challenge against Eduard. Bailey had a couple of good moments. Watkins did his job today; one clear chance, one goal.
* Digne was very poor and Palace looked to be targeting him. Thought the handball was harsh. In general, I thought the ref was inconsistent. Ayew could have made another 10 fouls and not been booked.
* Yet another loss to a side that has less resources than us but are much much better coached. The number of times just a long ball over the top did us was alarming. The other
alarming thing to consider is that Vieira has had those players for only, what, 3 more months than Gerrard has had our squad?!
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We won't win many matches if we just meekly surrender the midfield week after week.
We got away with it against a piss poor side in Everton, but Bournemouth and Palace both dominated us in that part of the pitch.
I don't see how he and Critchley, McAllister, Danks and Rick Wakeman can sit on Monday and rewatch that shit show and not see the problem.
For a team that looks entirely uncoached, we have a massive coaching team.
I think he only remains because he's a Yes man, otherwise he'd be Close To The Edge of being dismissed. Certainly, his position is Fragile.
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We won't win many matches if we just meekly surrender the midfield week after week.
We got away with it against a piss poor side in Everton, but Bournemouth and Palace both dominated us in that part of the pitch.
I don't see how he and Critchley, McAllister, Danks and Rick Wakeman can sit on Monday and rewatch that shit show and not see the problem.
For a team that looks entirely uncoached, we have a massive coaching team.
I think he only remains because he's a Yes man, otherwise he'd be Close To The Edge of being dismissed. Certainly, his position is Fragile.
But seasons would just pass him by.
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I'm sure I remember a comment from a Rangers fan along the lines of Gerrard once insisting that his plan B was "to do plan A better"
Certainly would not surprise me given the bilge that he's served up since the start of the year.
Loads on here argued Dean Smith had no plan B when things started going wrong. I'm yet to see that Gerrard has even a plan A, let alone plan B.
Exactly what a Rangers mate said to me, no plan B. His plan A looks pretty shite tbh.
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I'm sure I remember a comment from a Rangers fan along the lines of Gerrard once insisting that his plan B was "to do plan A better"
Certainly would not surprise me given the bilge that he's served up since the start of the year.
Loads on here argued Dean Smith had no plan B when things started going wrong. I'm yet to see that Gerrard has even a plan A, let alone plan B.
Exactly what a Rangers mate said to me, no plan B. His plan A looks pretty shite tbh.
Plan A appears to be "blag it"
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* Don’t think we ever recovered after conceding the equaliser. After that, Palace we’re comfortably the better team and in the first half in particular, Zaha tortured us. Eze was brilliant and he must have been shocked that we made no adjustments in the game whatsoever to restrict him.
* Set pieces are still an issue. Defending against them is still a major problem, yet we continue to give away silly fouls around the box. Attacking wise, we had some very strange moves.
* Thought Cash, Martinez, Mings and (first half) Buendia played well. Konsa made one brilliant recovery challenge against Eduard. Bailey had a couple of good moments. Watkins did his job today; one clear chance, one goal.
* Digne was very poor and Palace looked to be targeting him. Thought the handball was harsh. In general, I thought the ref was inconsistent. Ayew could have made another 10 fouls and not been booked.
* Yet another loss to a side that has less resources than us but are much much better coached. The number of times just a long ball over the top did us was alarming. The other
alarming thing to consider is that Vieira has had those players for only, what, 3 more months than Gerrard has had our squad?!
Indeed.
If we had to play Fantasy Football and pick a 'name' manager based on what he'd done as a player, prob better to go for that guy.
Heavily involved in the acadamy at Citeh and a degree of success with Nice in a far more competitive league.
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Another horror show. I'm just wondering when the away fans will turn? Can't be long..
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Poor after 10 minutes.
I felt we were bullied physically today. Konsa poor, Mings losing concentration, but perhaps the biggest issue is the midfield. To say it was poor from McGinn would be an understatement, absolutely abysmal performance even by the low standards he's set recently. Ramsey jaded and not in it either.
Emi bright at the start of the first half, but our propensity to be rushed in possession and give it away cheap, was frustrating.
When Luiz came on, we did keep the ball a bit better. We got Cash involved more, but they'd happily declared.
Bailey goes close and maybe if we go 2-1 up and its a different story. But we weren't good enough by any stretch.
It taking hours to get to the M40 after has subdued the annoyance to be honest. Loathe going to Palace.
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* Don’t think we ever recovered after conceding the equaliser. After that, Palace we’re comfortably the better team and in the first half in particular, Zaha tortured us. Eze was brilliant and he must have been shocked that we made no adjustments in the game whatsoever to restrict him.
* Set pieces are still an issue. Defending against them is still a major problem, yet we continue to give away silly fouls around the box. Attacking wise, we had some very strange moves.
* Thought Cash, Martinez, Mings and (first half) Buendia played well. Konsa made one brilliant recovery challenge against Eduard. Bailey had a couple of good moments. Watkins did his job today; one clear chance, one goal.
* Digne was very poor and Palace looked to be targeting him. Thought the handball was harsh. In general, I thought the ref was inconsistent. Ayew could have made another 10 fouls and not been booked.
* Yet another loss to a side that has less resources than us but are much much better coached. The number of times just a long ball over the top did us was alarming. The other
alarming thing to consider is that Vieira has had those players for only, what, 3 more months than Gerrard has had our squad?!
Indeed.
If we had to play Fantasy Football and pick a 'name' manager based on what he'd done as a player, prob better to go for that guy.
Heavily involved in the acadamy at Citeh and a degree of success with Nice in a far more competitive league.
He felt like a bigger, more visible presence on the touchline. This might sound soft but simply the choice of clothing made a difference, I thought. PV was there in his big white shirt, a commanding figure, whilst SG skulked away in a dark suit, seeming hardly visible
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Another long drive, another load of shit. Outplayed all over the pitch and no plan b. Gerrard needs to step up and pronto. Fed up.
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Another long drive, another load of shit. Outplayed all over the pitch and no plan b. Gerrard needs to step up and pronto. Fed up.
Same here, just got back to hear we have agreed a deal for Sarr. We are desperate for some steel in the middle, we were out fought and out played today.
Digne was really poor, we were caught out yet agsin by long balls, in the first half Digne was way out wide leaving huge gaps at the back.
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I know I've banged on about Sanson not getting a chance, but Jesus wept, when Gerrard says yesterday that he has trained well his attitude has been first class, how the hell can he not even get on the bench ahead of the non-performers in front of him?
Even Marv must have felt pissed-off watching on. A big reason why we won this game last season was down to his performance.
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This corker from the Guardian comments section on the game:
Eez are good, Eez are good, it’s Eberechi good! Hahaha!
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Anyone got any Vieiras?
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This corker from the Guardian comments section on the game:
Eez are good, Eez are good, it’s Eberechi good! Hahaha!
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Anyone got any Vieiras?
He absolutely bossed the game as well.
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Gerrard interview with BBC WM: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0cvcgfp
As expected the VAR decision is dwelt-on. Nothing about how we get lucky with their offside goal and the fact that Palace merited their lead for dominating play and making the most chances.
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Is it reactionary to want Gerrard out? I just do not think he is anywhere close to the standard.
But if you asked Arsenal fans this question after three games last year, they would have said the same. They had a young manager with players not playing cohesively. They lost to a team promoted, etc. There was not much that I saw in the way they played that made me think they were going to turn it around. But they did.
Now, I do not think we are in line for a turn around of that ilk, but could we be? Do we shoot ourselves in the foot by making managerial changes with some regularity?
This is more a philosophical question. My gut says to get rid.
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Gerrards judgement is woeful, making a player who is struggling every week captain was ludicrous, thought the midfield looked better once McGinn was subbed, probably because he was very close to a red card. Him and Ramsey in midfield are far to light and easily bullied, I make allowences for Jacob because he would be brilliant with better players around him.Thought for a long time that Digne wasn't an upgrade on what we already had. Ings never got near the ball when he came on, Watkihs showed what he could do with decent service and Buendia was great in the first half until the Palace manager shut him down. How about we play wingers as wingers and full back as defenders for a couple of weeks, I know it's novel but you never know.
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Ponderous.
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Is it reactionary to want Gerrard out? I just do not think he is anywhere close to the standard.
But if you asked Arsenal fans this question after three games last year, they would have said the same. They had a young manager with players not playing cohesively. They lost to a team promoted, etc. There was not much that I saw in the way they played that made me think they were going to turn it around. But they did.
Now, I do not think we are in line for a turn around of that ilk, but could we be? Do we shoot ourselves in the foot by making managerial changes with some regularity?
This is more a philosophical question. My gut says to get rid.
He’ll get more time because there is too much invested in him. Don’t see it going anywhere but think admiring it was a mistake has too many implications for CP
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Second best to a very good Palace team, they were quicker, stronger and their first touch was universally sound whereas ours wasnt and triggered their press which made us look poor again and again and again.
Everyone used to take the piss out of Dean Smith when he talked of ‘setting traps’ but Palace killed us with theirs, allow Tyrone the ball, then press the FBs and central MFs, force him to go back to EM who kicks long, they get the ball back and attack us with numbers. Gerrard totally outdone by Vierra today.
High spots? Martinez kept the score respectable.
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What a depressing day for Aston Villa ,outplayed at Selhurst Park and outclassed at Bodymoor Heath by Crystal Palace by a combined score of 7 1 Under this management the club are getting worse
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Nice of Konsa to escort Zaha down the field for the equaliser.
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Nice of Konsa to escort Zaha down the field for the equaliser.
"And which corner would sir like to fire the ball into?"
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Their first goal came from Buendia looking for a penalty. So frustrating that we could be undone by one punt upfield from their defender. Great finish from Zaha but Konsa showed him way too much respect.
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Apart from first 10 mins and last 15 (when the game was already decided) we were not only outplayed all over the pitch but outclassed by Palace.
They just did everything better than us and even if you take into account the dodgy penalty decision we got what we deserved.
I don't think any of us were convinced with the win last week and I think yesterday was worse that the performance at Bournemouth, and that is saying something.
For Gerrard to say that the game was still up for grabs at 1-1 means that he is either deluded or doesn't want to accept any responsibility for that dross.
We could have easily been 4-1 down when they got that penalty.
I fear worrying times ahead.
UTV
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I think we’re looking at the first manager sacking of the season. His inexperience in a big league is showing. We have the quality of players now to be a hell of a lot better and easily competing for top 10.
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What an absolute sh*tshow again yesterday against a team we're likely to be challenging for 14th place with, if we're hopefully not embroiled in a relegation battle.
In the same way we came away from the Everton match last w/e thinking they're poor and likely to be involved in the mix for relegation, I'm sure Bournemouth and Palace fans must be thinking the same of us. Not good enough from Villa (irrespective of the distraction of Sarr) and it needs saying long and loud so our decision makers (including our manager) get the message.
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It’s probably the easiest 3 points Palace will pick up all season. There was nothing particularly clever about their game plan of getting the ball forward early to quick and skilful forwards but we played into their hands. That left our defence exposed with fullbacks pushed on and plenty of space for them to exploit. The unforgivable thing is not doing anything about it until it was too late. That’s on Gerrard primarily but the entire coaching staff all shoulder some of the blame.
Next Sunday could turn ugly unless there is a significant improvement.
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It’s probably the easiest 3 points Palace will pick up all season. There was nothing particularly clever about their game plan of getting the ball forward early to quick and skilful forwards but we played into their hands. That left our defence exposed with fullbacks pushed on and plenty of space for them to exploit. The unforgivable thing is not doing anything about it until it was too late. That’s on Gerrard primarily but the entire coaching staff all shoulder some of the blame.
Next Sunday could turn ugly unless there is a significant improvement.
You do wonder if we watch other teams before we play them
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It’s probably the easiest 3 points Palace will pick up all season. There was nothing particularly clever about their game plan of getting the ball forward early to quick and skilful forwards but we played into their hands. That left our defence exposed with fullbacks pushed on and plenty of space for them to exploit. The unforgivable thing is not doing anything about it until it was too late. That’s on Gerrard primarily but the entire coaching staff all shoulder some of the blame.
Next Sunday could turn ugly unless there is a significant improvement.
You do wonder if we watch other teams before we play them
They certainly look at us. Though there's no real need.
It feels like we're on the end of what we did to Liverpool in the 7-2 every week, with profligate finishing from the opposition. We got at Liverpool quickly throughout that game and they were all over the place. Obviously that was a one off for them as they have an astute manager (and better players, granted).
Yesterday wasn't all about the penalty turning the game as Gerrard claimed, it was about them having effective forwards who just exploited all the space we gave them.
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I don’t think it was just the space we gave away.
In virtually every single one on one situation, we were outmuscled and outfought.
We couldn’t cope with their physicality and pace. The bullied us and we had no response.
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* Don’t think we ever recovered after conceding the equaliser. After that, Palace we’re comfortably the better team and in the first half in particular, Zaha tortured us. Eze was brilliant and he must have been shocked that we made no adjustments in the game whatsoever to restrict him.
* Set pieces are still an issue. Defending against them is still a major problem, yet we continue to give away silly fouls around the box. Attacking wise, we had some very strange moves.
* Thought Cash, Martinez, Mings and (first half) Buendia played well. Konsa made one brilliant recovery challenge against Eduard. Bailey had a couple of good moments. Watkins did his job today; one clear chance, one goal.
* Digne was very poor and Palace looked to be targeting him. Thought the handball was harsh. In general, I thought the ref was inconsistent. Ayew could have made another 10 fouls and not been booked.
* Yet another loss to a side that has less resources than us but are much much better coached. The number of times just a long ball over the top did us was alarming. The other
alarming thing to consider is that Vieira has had those players for only, what, 3 more months than Gerrard has had our squad?!
Indeed.
If we had to play Fantasy Football and pick a 'name' manager based on what he'd done as a player, prob better to go for that guy.
Heavily involved in the acadamy at Citeh and a degree of success with Nice in a far more competitive league.
He felt like a bigger, more visible presence on the touchline. This might sound soft but simply the choice of clothing made a difference, I thought. PV was there in his big white shirt, a commanding figure, whilst SG skulked away in a dark suit, seeming hardly visible
The first few games he was here, Gerrard was a very animated and vocal presence on the touchline, yet now he barely gets out of his seat. I think it's blatantly obvious there's no rapport between him and the players (there again when the boss keeps slagging you off in the press why would you expect there to be?)
Even at the end of Smiths reign, you never felt the players weren't playing for him.
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I don’t think it was just the space we gave away.
In virtually every single one on one situation, we were outmuscled and outfought.
We couldn’t cope with their physicality and pace. The bullied us and we had no response.
It was the same at Bournemouth and even last week against Everton. It's not that we have inferior players, but they don't match the other teams in aggression and motivation.
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I don’t think it was just the space we gave away.
In virtually every single one on one situation, we were outmuscled and outfought.
We couldn’t cope with their physicality and pace. The bullied us and we had no response.
It was the same at Bournemouth and even last week against Everton. It's not that we have inferior players, but they don't match the other teams in aggression and motivation.
Yep. Add ‘shit motivator’ to his CV.
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Why are revising last week now to accentutate the doom? We dominated Everton up until 87 minutes, then panicked, as we like to do over the years. We ought to have been 3 or 4 up by that point.
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Very disappointed with the performance and it was just ridiculous getting there but got there eventually because of the strike.
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I was at a party last night with a bunch of Palace season ticket holders.
They think McGinn is one of our better players but dirty, and we’re not a bad side.
How people see things differently.
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Why are revising last week now to accentutate the doom? We dominated Everton up until 87 minutes, then panicked, as we like to do over the years. We ought to have been 3 or 4 up by that point.
Discounting the goals, apart from Buendia's effort hooked off the line, I can't remember us troubling Pickford much. Plenty of possession but not doing much with it. Then we shit the bed when they bring on their new signing and Grandad Rondon.
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No, I didn’t see us pulling up against Everton either. They are probably the worst team in the division at present. However, as others have said, don’t take one game in isolation as we have been generally very poor for the whole of 2022 so far. Maybe he has signed Sarr to change the system to play him and Bailey as 2 wingers with just one striker? Worth trying something different as relying on our full backs as attacking options clearly isn’t working.
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Practically everyone lost their individual battles with their opponent & it's a habit, particularly away from home. We were second best to everything & nothing can compensate for that. It's like we're surprised when teams don't give us the time to play.
We need to go back to basics, set up to be hard to beat & build from that.
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Although I don't expect a Don Revie style dossier on the opposition,we appear to have zero homework on what to expect.Not just yesterday either.
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Although I don't expect a Don Revie style dossier on the opposition,we appear to have zero homework on what to expect.Not just yesterday either.
Absolutely. Palace have quick front players who will look to get in behind you on the counter. So you deny them space in behind, right?
No, not us. We give their speedy front guys all the space of South London to run at us with our full-backs high up the pitch.
Just mind-boggling, inept tactical planning. Staggering.
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I was too peeved to post last night, but a few random thoughts.
Defensively we never looked secure, Zaha and Eze in particular exploiting space. Not too difficult with both full back often high up the pitch. We played a high line defending free kicks too and were lucky to get away with a marginal offside on VAR.
Konsa was very poor for the first goal but to be fair he did improve as the game went on. One early pass straight to an opponent was almost double agent quality.
Midfield is very weak, particularly when the opposition have the ball. Just about every loose ball was mopped up by Palace who were much more athletic than us
Digne and Cash in particular seemed frustrated, the latter with Martinez after some poor passes
A late free kick routine was farcical and caused a lot of heckling
We still don’t have a clear style of play and I don’t really see what we are trying to do. Crucially, we are lacking leaders
There was some booing at the final whistle and only Mings came over to acknowledge us. After a pow wow in the centre circle with Palace a couple of the team did clap in our direction. We have three tough games coming up and I fear an eruption of anger if we are in the bottom 3 after 6 games.
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Excellent and funny analysis as ever from the boys that do the Villa Podcast. They are always on the money and this is the best villa related podcast out there.
Have a listen.
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Just watching Bosnich on SSN and saw Kamara having a right laugh with Palace player at the the end of the game. Didn't take the new signings long ti pick up the culture. That's one of our biggest problems, it's doesn't matter the manager, the players it just doesn't hurt enough when we lose at villa. It's just brushed off, it doesn't matter.
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Watching Leeds and Noocastle on MOTD2 last night I was struck by how far behind them we are in terms of a clear game plan, the ability to press as a team and sheer bloody will to win.
These are all things that were blatantly missing from Saturday's debacle. I don't have any answers but the gulf between us and those two (and no doubt many other teams) is frightening at the moment.
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We were atrociously embarrassing on Saturday.
Not just Gerrard and his tactics, but the players, too.
They need a right fucking rocket up them. Casually ambling about, couldn't pass, looked knackered after about 10 minutes, no pace or creativity. Fucking inept.
They're absymal at the moment.
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We were atrociously embarrassing on Saturday.
Not just Gerrard and his tactics, but the players, too.
They need a right fucking rocket up them. Casually ambling about, couldn't pass, looked knackered after about 10 minutes, no pace or creativity. Fucking inept.
They're absymal at the moment.
I wonder whether training is that hard (Gerrard has alluded to wanting that intensity) that they can't get up for it on matchday.
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We were atrociously embarrassing on Saturday.
Not just Gerrard and his tactics, but the players, too.
They need a right fucking rocket up them. Casually ambling about, couldn't pass, looked knackered after about 10 minutes, no pace or creativity. Fucking inept.
They're absymal at the moment.
I wonder whether training is that hard (Gerrard has alluded to wanting that intensity) that they can't get up for it on matchday.
We were atrociously embarrassing on Saturday.
Not just Gerrard and his tactics, but the players, too.
They need a right fucking rocket up them. Casually ambling about, couldn't pass, looked knackered after about 10 minutes, no pace or creativity. Fucking inept.
They're absymal at the moment.
I wonder whether training is that hard (Gerrard has alluded to wanting that intensity) that they can't get up for it on matchday.
I don't buy that at all. There are a number of other issues currently from the manager to the midfield. Just hope we can turn it around otherwise its yet another re set.
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Watching Leeds and Noocastle on MOTD2 last night I was struck by how far behind them we are in terms of a clear game plan, the ability to press as a team and sheer bloody will to win.
These are all things that were blatantly missing from Saturday's debacle. I don't have any answers but the gulf between us and those two (and no doubt many other teams) is frightening at the moment.
And Brighton and Palace and Fulham and Brentford and Forest and Wolves etc etc etc
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The first few games he was here, Gerrard was a very animated and vocal presence on the touchline, yet now he barely gets out of his seat. I think it's blatantly obvious there's no rapport between him and the players
This is very clearly noticeable as well.
Practically everyone lost their individual battles with their opponent
Again painfully obvious.
The full backs were awful and clearly targeted to get the ball over the top and into the space they leave when they get forward - fuck me change it Gerrard before the mob really turn on you.
Oh and just for good measure... leave the liability that is McGinn out for a decent while
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I didn't see the game, but I received two different messages from Palace fans that said they thought they played well, but they were surprised at how bad we were.
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The first few games he was here, Gerrard was a very animated and vocal presence on the touchline, yet now he barely gets out of his seat. I think it's blatantly obvious there's no rapport between him and the players
This is very clearly noticeable as well.
Practically everyone lost their individual battles with their opponent
Again painfully obvious.
The full backs were awful and clearly targeted to get the ball over the top and into the space they leave when they get forward - fuck me change it Gerrard before the mob really turn on you.
Oh and just for good measure... leave the liability that is McGinn out for a decent while
Watford at home last year, we're struggling, the crowd are on the players backs and the Manager vanished into the dug out. I was alarmed at the time, said so on here....
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Watford at home last year, we're struggling, the crowd are on the players backs and the Manager vanished into the dug out. I was alarmed at the time, said so on here....
The last time I was truly alarmed was when Watford battered us 3-0 in Dec. '19. Really thought we were going down until Covid saved us.
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Watford at home last year, we're struggling, the crowd are on the players backs and the Manager vanished into the dug out. I was alarmed at the time, said so on here....
The last time I was truly alarmed was when Watford battered us 3-0 in Dec. '19. Really thought we were going down until Covid saved us.
Covid and possibly Watford sacking Pearson. Even after the lockdown, we only won 2 of the ten matches.
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Excellent and funny analysis as ever from the boys that do the Villa Podcast. They are always on the money and this is the best villa related podcast out there.
Have a listen.
There's lots of Villa podcasts, can you please narrow it down?
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Excellent and funny analysis as ever from the boys that do the Villa Podcast. They are always on the money and this is the best villa related podcast out there.
Have a listen.
There's lots of Villa podcasts, can you please narrow it down?
Its just called (imaginatively) ‘The Villa Podcast’ . Two Irish lads being doing it since September 2020. They release one on a Sunday/Monday after villas weekend game, then they’ve just started releasing a general football one on a Thursday.
Its much much better than any other villa or possibly football podcast I’ve heard. Funny, angry in a funny way but also really on the money.
I was listening via Acast until that finished, now listening on spotify.
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https://linktr.ee/thevillapodcast?utm_source=linktree_profile_share<sid=102e9a47-b9ac-4e98-9293-2a2d0c626050
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Excellent and funny analysis as ever from the boys that do the Villa Podcast. They are always on the money and this is the best villa related podcast out there.
Have a listen.
There's lots of Villa podcasts, can you please narrow it down?
Its just called (imaginatively) ‘The Villa Podcast’ . Two Irish lads being doing it since September 2020. They release one on a Sunday/Monday after villas weekend game, then they’ve just started releasing a general football one on a Thursday.
Its much much better than any other villa or possibly football podcast I’ve heard. Funny, angry in a funny way but also really on the money.
I was listening via Acast until that finished, now listening on spotify.
I’ve been searching other podcasts since I heard it, (not just Villa), trying to find one in the same class. No luck yet. Brilliant show.
Some of the analogies the co-host comes up with are hilarious. Anyone heard the Auntie Margaret one about the grief of Grealish leaving?
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Excellent and funny analysis as ever from the boys that do the Villa Podcast. They are always on the money and this is the best villa related podcast out there.
Have a listen.
There's lots of Villa podcasts, can you please narrow it down?
Its just called (imaginatively) ‘The Villa Podcast’ . Two Irish lads being doing it since September 2020. They release one on a Sunday/Monday after villas weekend game, then they’ve just started releasing a general football one on a Thursday.
Its much much better than any other villa or possibly football podcast I’ve heard. Funny, angry in a funny way but also really on the money.
I was listening via Acast until that finished, now listening on spotify.
I’ve been searching other podcasts since I heard it, (not just Villa), trying to find one in the same class. No luck yet. Brilliant show.
Some of the analogies the co-host comes up with are hilarious. Anyone heard the Auntie Margaret one about the grief of Grealish leaving?
"Let me mourn!"
I do enjoy their podcast. Their recent comparison with the Klopp / Gabby / Talksport thing, well, I'll let people find it for themselves but it made me laugh out loud.
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Excellent and funny analysis as ever from the boys that do the Villa Podcast. They are always on the money and this is the best villa related podcast out there.
Have a listen.
There's lots of Villa podcasts, can you please narrow it down?
Its just called (imaginatively) ‘The Villa Podcast’ . Two Irish lads being doing it since September 2020. They release one on a Sunday/Monday after villas weekend game, then they’ve just started releasing a general football one on a Thursday.
Its much much better than any other villa or possibly football podcast I’ve heard. Funny, angry in a funny way but also really on the money.
I was listening via Acast until that finished, now listening on spotify.
I’ve been searching other podcasts since I heard it, (not just Villa), trying to find one in the same class. No luck yet. Brilliant show.
Some of the analogies the co-host comes up with are hilarious. Anyone heard the Auntie Margaret one about the grief of Grealish leaving?
The aunty margaret/grealish analogy was really funny….’its been one day let me mourn’. Declan, i think it is, and his view of ‘doggie’ Luiz, lapping around the pitch like an excited puppy with no clue!
Also, their weekly awards, ‘the who let Glen Whealen take a 90th minute penalty award’, to the ‘Weiman meter’, genius lads really. They have a brilliantly funny way of summing up the weekly, mainly lows, peppered with the odd high of being a Villa fan, but underneath it all they also know what they are talking about.
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Funny, Irish Villa fans, huh? Myself, Brazilian and Ger must fit three of those between us. Looks like we missed out on the podcast goldrush, lads.
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Funny, Irish Villa fans, huh? Myself, Brazilian and Ger must fit three of those between us. Looks like we missed out on the podcast goldrush, lads.
Ahem....
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Excellent and funny analysis as ever from the boys that do the Villa Podcast. They are always on the money and this is the best villa related podcast out there.
Have a listen.
There's lots of Villa podcasts, can you please narrow it down?
Its just called (imaginatively) ‘The Villa Podcast’ . Two Irish lads being doing it since September 2020. They release one on a Sunday/Monday after villas weekend game, then they’ve just started releasing a general football one on a Thursday.
Its much much better than any other villa or possibly football podcast I’ve heard. Funny, angry in a funny way but also really on the money.
I was listening via Acast until that finished, now listening on spotify.
I’ve been searching other podcasts since I heard it, (not just Villa), trying to find one in the same class. No luck yet. Brilliant show.
Some of the analogies the co-host comes up with are hilarious. Anyone heard the Auntie Margaret one about the grief of Grealish leaving?
The aunty margaret/grealish analogy was really funny….’its been one day let me mourn’. Declan, i think it is, and his view of ‘doggie’ Luiz, lapping around the pitch like an excited puppy with no clue!
Also, their weekly awards, ‘the who let Glen Whealen take a 90th minute penalty award’, to the ‘Weiman meter’, genius lads really. They have a brilliantly funny way of summing up the weekly, mainly lows, peppered with the odd high of being a Villa fan, but underneath it all they also know what they are talking about.
I listen to it every week, too, the only Villa podcast i bother with, and that's because it's very funny.
No offence to Greggg or Ashley Preece or whoever but I don't really want to listen to them droning on about stuff they read on twitter.
One of the blokes who does this podcast is a journo with the Independent in Ireland, and it's very well made.
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Whichever Villa pod you listen to, and I listen to a few, they are all saying the same thing as we are in this thread about individual players, the team as a whole and SG
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Funny, Irish Villa fans, huh? Myself, Brazilian and Ger must fit three of those between us. Looks like we missed out on the podcast goldrush, lads.
Ahem....
Sorry Neil, I never new...
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Excellent and funny analysis as ever from the boys that do the Villa Podcast. They are always on the money and this is the best villa related podcast out there.
Have a listen.
There's lots of Villa podcasts, can you please narrow it down?
Its just called (imaginatively) ‘The Villa Podcast’ . Two Irish lads being doing it since September 2020. They release one on a Sunday/Monday after villas weekend game, then they’ve just started releasing a general football one on a Thursday.
Its much much better than any other villa or possibly football podcast I’ve heard. Funny, angry in a funny way but also really on the money.
I was listening via Acast until that finished, now listening on spotify.
I’ve been searching other podcasts since I heard it, (not just Villa), trying to find one in the same class. No luck yet. Brilliant show.
Some of the analogies the co-host comes up with are hilarious. Anyone heard the Auntie Margaret one about the grief of Grealish leaving?
The aunty margaret/grealish analogy was really funny….’its been one day let me mourn’. Declan, i think it is, and his view of ‘doggie’ Luiz, lapping around the pitch like an excited puppy with no clue!
Also, their weekly awards, ‘the who let Glen Whealen take a 90th minute penalty award’, to the ‘Weiman meter’, genius lads really. They have a brilliantly funny way of summing up the weekly, mainly lows, peppered with the odd high of being a Villa fan, but underneath it all they also know what they are talking about.
I listen to it every week, too, the only Villa podcast i bother with, and that's because it's very funny.
No offence to Greggg or Ashley Preece or whoever but I don't really want to listen to them droning on about stuff they read on twitter.
One of the blokes who does this podcast is a journo with the Independent in Ireland, and it's very well made.
Its the only thing I can face after a terrible performance which is Becoming quite frequent. Liam's analogies are Legendary and you're completely with Conan's frustration of just wanting to see a performance from Villa.
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The Villa Podcast and My Old Man Said are the only decent villa ones
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Excellent and funny analysis as ever from the boys that do the Villa Podcast. They are always on the money and this is the best villa related podcast out there.
Have a listen.
There's lots of Villa podcasts, can you please narrow it down?
Its just called (imaginatively) ‘The Villa Podcast’ . Two Irish lads being doing it since September 2020. They release one on a Sunday/Monday after villas weekend game, then they’ve just started releasing a general football one on a Thursday.
Its much much better than any other villa or possibly football podcast I’ve heard. Funny, angry in a funny way but also really on the money.
I was listening via Acast until that finished, now listening on spotify.
I’ve been searching other podcasts since I heard it, (not just Villa), trying to find one in the same class. No luck yet. Brilliant show.
Some of the analogies the co-host comes up with are hilarious. Anyone heard the Auntie Margaret one about the grief of Grealish leaving?
The aunty margaret/grealish analogy was really funny….’its been one day let me mourn’. Declan, i think it is, and his view of ‘doggie’ Luiz, lapping around the pitch like an excited puppy with no clue!
Also, their weekly awards, ‘the who let Glen Whealen take a 90th minute penalty award’, to the ‘Weiman meter’, genius lads really. They have a brilliantly funny way of summing up the weekly, mainly lows, peppered with the odd high of being a Villa fan, but underneath it all they also know what they are talking about.
I listen to it every week, too, the only Villa podcast i bother with, and that's because it's very funny.
No offence to Greggg or Ashley Preece or whoever but I don't really want to listen to them droning on about stuff they read on twitter.
One of the blokes who does this podcast is a journo with the Independent in Ireland, and it's very well made.
Its the only thing I can face after a terrible performance which is Becoming quite frequent. Liam's analogies are Legendary and you're completely with Conan's frustration of just wanting to see a performance from Villa.
Liam & Conan, thats right not Declan, my mistake.
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Just started listening to The Villa Podcast and really enjoying it, so thanks all!
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WOW This morning on referee watched on Sky Dermot Gallagher of all people saying it was a awful decision to award a pen against Digne at Palace Very rare for him to go against a referee I think we can add Andy Madley to the likes of Dowd,Friend Moss etc as someone who seems to always give bad decisions against Villa I can remember last season at Southampton when he somehow failed to see the shirt almost ripped off Mings back at a corner and i am pretty sure there was a couple of championship games he made bad decisions against us
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Funny, Irish Villa fans, huh? Myself, Brazilian and Ger must fit three of those between us. Looks like we missed out on the podcast goldrush, lads.
Ahem....
Sorry Neil, I never new...
No worries, we're everywhere.
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I didn’t have too many complaints about the pen, only grievance was that, as I didn’t see it as HB at the time, it wasn’t a clear and obvious error (if the same still the rules?) but after the reply I thought it inevitable
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Never a penalty in a million years, unless you put a shower of ***** in charge of the game with their unshakable mantra of the 'unnatural position'.
I'm guessing the prize tw*ts who thought this up did so on the basis that their own hands are in an unnatural position a lot of the time...