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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Bad English on April 23, 2022, 05:00:56 PM
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ZZZ!
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WE DIDN'T FUCKING LOSE!
YAAAAAAAAASSSS!
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Thank goodness that's over.
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Bailey should not even be on the team bus let alone the pitch.
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Needed to stop the rot and we did.
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A point gained.
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Better than I expected to be honest. Result-wise I mean, I didn’t bother trying to watch.
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Think we played that determined not to lose it.
And we didnt - probably confirms our safety - also probably confirms a bottom half finish
Dont think it does much to suggest that we have any more of the answers to the questions
All players look completely shot of confidence and belief
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Absolutely diabolical
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Clean sheet but he's a tough watch is Mr Gerrard. If he thinks he can buy his way out of this.........
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Losing run ends, but I don't think it stops the rot.
If players have been told that they're out the door come the summer, quite frankly I'd give some of the kids a run out.
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We came we saw...
we got a 0-0 that means very little to our future prospects.
So much work to do if we want to be a credible top half prospect next season, not sure this manager will be up to it tbh.
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Please start Buendia next match and Nakamba or Iroegbunam. Maybe Chambers for Konsa too? Konsa is not on it at all.
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A point is good given recent results. It is really annoying that we have become so toothless in front of goal though. We should have won that 0-1 and FTCMF!
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In the grand scheme of things it’s a good point. But I’m seriously concerned about giving Gerrard a big transfer budget in the summer.
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In the words of Ugo Ehiogu (RIP) "We stopped the rot" (after an awful scoreless draw away at Wimbledon in Feb '99 when we'd gone from being on top of the table in the middle of January to doing a complete collapse over a few weeks).
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Watkins continues to struggle. Coutinho and Bailey off too.
Timmy I. showed more in 20mins than Luiz has all season. Nice to see Marvelous back too.
A good point to build on.
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Absolutely diabolical
Over the top nonsense we drew by the way
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We won........
.....a point whoop!
Positives are that point and a clean sheet (our 300th clean sheet in pl history because as we all know football only started in 1992!)
I'm glad Buendia managed to make it on the pitch.
Next up Norwich and the return of Deano.
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And how are Newcastle six points and six places above us.
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Another game that was there for the taking.
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Yet another absolute stinker from Gerrard.
Give him £100m and another season.
You would have to be fuckin mad.
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Didn’t watch and had a few pints in the pub. Feel better for it and might make a habit out of it.
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Would have taken a point before the game, just to stop the continued losses.
Sounds like the subs made a positive impact but came on far too late.
Need to shake things up for Norwich, give Tim a start perhaps and get Buendia and Ings in the starting 11
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In the grand scheme of things it’s a good point. But I’m seriously concerned about giving Gerrard a big transfer budget in the summer.
He isn’t the man for job IMO.
If he plays that turgid bollocks as many of his Liverpool and England teams he was part of did. Then win. Not being successful and playing boring shite is not a good combo
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Boring hell.
Could have been worse.
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Totally turgid crap until Tim and Emi came on. Can't see it with Gerrard.Just can't see it.
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Determined, organised and on balance we had the chances to win. It certainly wasn’t as bad as some are making out.
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Would have taken a draw at the start, now stopped the rot, Buendia has to start next week.
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Terrible game but a good point.
In the 2nd half I thought Leicester were even duller than us. There’s little point playing Coutinho and them continually whacking the ball over his head.
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Today was not good and I fail to see a player who has improved since SG’s arrival. We are beginning to see the same old Aston Villa falling short of expectations and floundering without any sort of solution or correction.
I thought today’s first half tactics were poor and I am sick of it taking a halftime bollocking to get something out of these players. Leicester weren’t impressive, and a decent game plan could’ve gotten us three points today.
37 points after 32 matches is unacceptable. I hope the owners hold the same opinion because this is getting old. We took a chance on another manager.. and we’ll give him half the season next year to show some sort of progression. Figure it out Villa. We want to win.
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In the grand scheme of things it’s a good point. But I’m seriously concerned about giving Gerrard a big transfer budget in the summer.
can’t waste it much worse than Dean Smith did.
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Much better 2nd half and felt we could have won it once Tim and Buendia came on. Both should start next week. Stopped the rot at least.
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And how are Newcastle six points and six places above us.
Simple they hired an experienced PL manager who could arrange the existing resources more effectively and supplement them with some additional good players.
We didn’t
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Had hoped for more of a response from the players. I was hoping we would get up a head of steam at some point and play like we played against Spurs in the first half
Something doesnt look right - we just not seem to have the energy or drive that you would expect - probably summed up by Bailey
Konsa looks shot
That said, we looked well organised - but passing was still poor.
Look a long way off challanging the likes of west ham
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Yet another absolute stinker from Gerrard.
Give him £100m and another season.
You would have to be fuckin mad.
What’s your plan B?
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Yet another absolute stinker from Gerrard.
Give him £100m and another season.
You would have to be fuckin mad.
What’s your plan B?
The club appoint a new manager and we go again.
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Well that was a bit shit. Still, the away point comes in handy.
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Yet another absolute stinker from Gerrard.
Give him £100m and another season.
You would have to be fuckin mad.
What’s your plan B?
I would like to think the recruitment process is above Gerrard.. Kamara is a good buy no matter who the manager is.
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They were the better side first half, us second half.
A bit more cutting edge and the game was there for us.
Whatever Mr Motivator is saying to Watkins and the rest of our attacking players aint working. But it's the type of game we've lost over the last season and a half, so respect the point.
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At least Kasper survived unscathed, which means the air ambulance that was hovering over the ground all game can return to helping people who are really hurt.
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Yet another absolute stinker from Gerrard.
Give him £100m and another season.
You would have to be fuckin mad.
What’s your plan B?
The club appoint a new manager and we go again.
Pusrlow needs to do what he should have done when he potted Dean Smith - Get Potter in.
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It’s pretty obvious there’s a confidence issue - unsurprisingly - I wouldn’t say it’s all down to tactics. Getting a point away is a step in the right direction.
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It’s pretty obvious there’s a confidence issue - unsurprisingly - I wouldn’t say it’s all down to tactics. Getting a point away is a step in the right direction.
Broadcasting that they are all shit and will be flogged in the summer might have something to do with it.
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Enjoy the next 20 years of us doing nothing
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It’s pretty obvious there’s a confidence issue - unsurprisingly - I wouldn’t say it’s all down to tactics. Getting a point away is a step in the right direction.
Broadcasting that they are all shit and will be flogged in the summer might have something to do with it.
Did he say that? Or words to that affect
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A point away and a clean sheet. It's a start. I s'pose.
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It’s pretty obvious there’s a confidence issue - unsurprisingly - I wouldn’t say it’s all down to tactics. Getting a point away is a step in the right direction.
Broadcasting that they are all shit and will be flogged in the summer might have something to do with it.
Did he say that? Or words to that affect
Wolves Post-match,
“The players who are in the building have to help me fix it now, for the next eight games. If not, we’ll get players that will help me to fix it.”
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Well I for one am happy with that. I was expecting better but they are no mugs and have taken us apart before now. A point won in my eyes
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Timmy I. showed more in 20mins than Luiz has all season. Nice to see Marvelous back too.
A good point to build on.
Yup, clean sheet and a good away point for Stevie G and the lads. I expect a more attacking performance and a win next week in the 'Deano Derby'.
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Our first away draw of the season. Knew I'd jinxed it asking the question pre-match.
Feel it's probably an opportunity lost to win, as Leicester were very poor.
First half, Bailey has to score that chance that Watkins creates. It was probably the best chance of the game. Beyond that felt we were too easy to play through in midfield in the first half and didn't press particularly well. Frustrated by Bailey, who looked like he'd won a competition. The silver lining of the first half was that Leicester were worse.
Second half was better. Still not enough quality in that final third and as hard as Ollie worked today, he never strikes me as likely to score a half chance. Got himself into a number of good positions and didn't make enough of them.
Defensively Young was excellent and 23 actually defended comfortably all game. Leicester had that dribble of a shot from Barnes and that was about it. Thunder weasel Vardy is long past it.
Negatives: Bailey, not for me. Felt we delayed making a change for too long. I can understand Coutinho going off ad when we don't have enough of the ball, he doesn't get involved in the game.
Mings defended well, but his distribution was poor. Luiz is just not a 6 for me.
Ash was great defensively, but offers seldom and less going forwards. Think it really disrupts our attacking balance.
McGinn, much better second half, but crikey first period he was up to his usual give it away cheap self
Positives: the switch for Big Tim helped us button things up and we enjoyed almost all the territory at the end.
We engaged in that rare truism of if you're not going to win, not losing. Just 4 draws and 17 defeats isn't good enough. More dull and grinding results is what is needed next season.
To do that we have to see a midfield that has more physical presence and guile.
Marv looked buzzing at the end with his new song, felt made up for the bloke!
All in all, happy with a point. I can't remember the last time I walked away from an away game having drawn. I'm guessing it was in 2019 perhaps? In the league at least, as of course our last away draw you could attend, was here.
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It’s pretty obvious there’s a confidence issue - unsurprisingly - I wouldn’t say it’s all down to tactics. Getting a point away is a step in the right direction.
Broadcasting that they are all shit and will be flogged in the summer might have something to do with it.
Did he say that? Or words to that affect
Wolves Post-match,
“The players who are in the building have to help me fix it now, for the next eight games. If not, we’ll get players that will help me to fix it.”
His mates in the press are all also saying he is going to have mass summer clear out.
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And how are Newcastle six points and six places above us.
Simple they hired an experienced PL manager who could arrange the existing resources more effectively and supplement them with some additional good players.
We didn’t
This
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Bailey is dreadful. What an utter waste of money.
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Bailey is dreadful. What an utter waste of money.
He makes Heskey look like a world beater.
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A draw and a clean sheet, happy days! Tim looked OK, Emi looked lively. A point at Leicester is OK, but it was a stinker of a game.
Still don't rate Gerrard and really don't fancy letting him loose with the family silver to rip up the squad and start again. Then we go through the whole 'have to let the new players get used to the pace' phase, while under achieving, writing off another season. I've said before that I can't see him ever making us greater than the sum of our parts, so we can buy more expensive parts, hopefully play a little less shit and finish a bit higher, but can't see him ever getting us into Europe. He'll end up being an expensive experiment. All in my worthless opinion.
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Summary of post match comments fir our last 2 games:
Beat the goal down v Spurs, missed our chances then shipped 4 against a side gunning for Europe with 2 strikers on top form = worst Villa side in living memory.
Kept a clean sheet today and got a point away at Leicester whose last 4 home games were 3 wins and a draw and who are in the Europa Conference semi finals = the worst Villa side since the end of WW2..
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Bailey is dreadful. What an utter waste of money.
He makes Heskey look like a world beater.
I think he will come good. He just needs a run of games and clear instruction - something that SG isn’t exactly offering atm. We know he’s got pace & trickery and a finishing touch, we need to facilitate that. He got the ball on the outside in a good position like 2 or 3 times today. He’s an out and out winger.. and we’ve got him in as some quasi-counter attacking forward outlet and expect him to get back in the midfield. It doesn’t make any sense.
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We've played worse and lost.
MOTM: The Ref. Compared to the rubbish we get almost every week I thought he was more than decent.
Highlight of the game: Seeing Marv back.
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A draw and a clean sheet, happy days! Tim looked OK, Emi looked lively. A point at Leicester is OK, but it was a stinker of a game.
Still don't rate Gerrard and really don't fancy letting him loose with the family silver to rip up the squad and start again. Then we go through the whole 'have to let the new players get used to the pace' phase, while under achieving, writing off another season. I've said before that I can't see him ever making us greater than the sum of our parts, so we can buy more expensive parts, hopefully play a little less shit and finish a bit higher, but can't see him ever getting us into Europe. He'll end up being an expensive experiment. All in my worthless opinion.
Yeah - I think I agree with this, cant help but feel next season will be a replay of this one.
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And how are Newcastle six points and six places above us.
Simple they hired an experienced PL manager who could arrange the existing resources more effectively and supplement them with some additional good players.
We didn’t
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Spot on. We fucked up and appointed Gerrard, an appointment that by the day looks worse and worse
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Surprised Nakamba didn't start. If he's fit he should be in. I don't know what Chambers has done wrong? We looked much better when he played, especially in that 3 match winning run.
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Sadly, I don’t see it like some on here. We were playing a team that only had their thoughts on their European semi final this coming Thursday. In addition, we have had a 2 week break but looked a bit like this was our 3rd match in 7 days. At this moment in time, I haven’t seen any improvement since DS left, although at the time I thought it was the right decision for him to go. If I were the board, I’d be looking at options for a new manager to give that person time with a full pre season and a transfer window. As it stands at the moment, my feeling is that if we stick with SG, he’ll be gone by Xmas and then we have to start all over again.
I’m waiting to see what the season ticket prices are going to be going up by plus, see how we shape up between now and the end of the season before I decide to renew or not..so, for the 20,000 that are itching and waiting, one of you lucky people may get mine.
Yours not a happy bunny!!
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I thought Tim looked good when he came on
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Summary of post match comments fir our last 2 games:
Beat the goal down v Spurs, missed our chances then shipped 4 against a side gunning for Europe with 2 strikers on top form = worst Villa side in living memory.
Kept a clean sheet today and got a point away at Leicester whose last 4 home games were 3 wins and a draw and who are in the Europa Conference semi finals = the worst Villa side since the end of WW2..
Ha, very true.
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Summary of post match comments fir our last 2 games:
Beat the goal down v Spurs, missed our chances then shipped 4 against a side gunning for Europe with 2 strikers on top form = worst Villa side in living memory.
Kept a clean sheet today and got a point away at Leicester whose last 4 home games were 3 wins and a draw and who are in the Europa Conference semi finals = the worst Villa side since the end of WW2..
Ha, very true.
... and utter bollocks!
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I never thought I will celebrate a 0-0 against an ordinary team with fist pumps but I did. Well done Steven a masterclass😉
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Watkins continues to struggle. Coutinho and Bailey off too.
Timmy I. showed more in 20mins than Luiz has all season. Nice to see Marvelous back too.
A good point to build on.
Yes, exactly as I saw it.
I'd offer an honourable mention for Konsa, who was terrible last time out but looked composed and controlled today.
Bailey still has so much to do to prove that he's worth a squad place.
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And how are Newcastle six points and six places above us.
Because they have appointed someone who's worked with and coached their players as opposed to just walking in and telling them their shit.
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In the grand scheme of things it’s a good point. But I’m seriously concerned about giving Gerrard a big transfer budget in the summer.
can’t waste it much worse than Dean Smith did.
Think the Director of Football might have had something to do with it.
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Time and again we labour with too many passengers. I'm particularly thinking about Konsa, SJM and Luiz who have been consistently bad for a number of games now. It isn't like we don't have alternatives and it is what is pissing me off about Gerrard's stewardship. I think Ollie was up for it today and better on his ownbup top but just needs a bit of luck. Bailey did okish and Coutinho unfortunately very anonymous. Very few deserve plaudits for that insipid display. MoM if there was one, Young.
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Time and again we labour with too many passengers. I'm particularly thinking about Konsa, SJM and Luiz who have been consistently bad for a number of games now. It isn't like we don't have alternatives and it is what is pissing me off about Gerrard's stewardship. I think Ollie was up for it today and better on his ownbup top but just needs a bit of luck. Bailey did okish and Coutinho unfortunately very anonymous. Very few deserve plaudits for that insipid display. MoM if there was one, Young.
I thought Bailey was absolutely rotten and hardly put a foot right. First half especially he was woeful. He was supposed to be an amazing winger but I can't recall a single time he took somebody on. Why he gets a start and not Buendia is baffling, he might have a bit of pace, but if he's never got the ball then it's pointless. Most of the tine when he did have it he passed it back to Cash.
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Time and again we labour with too many passengers. I'm particularly thinking about Konsa, SJM and Luiz who have been consistently bad for a number of games now. It isn't like we don't have alternatives and it is what is pissing me off about Gerrard's stewardship. I think Ollie was up for it today and better on his ownbup top but just needs a bit of luck. Bailey did okish and Coutinho unfortunately very anonymous. Very few deserve plaudits for that insipid display. MoM if there was one, Young.
I thought Bailey was absolutely rotten and hardly put a foot right. First half especially he was woeful. He was supposed to be an amazing winger but I can't recall a single time he took somebody on. Why he gets a start and not Buendia is baffling, he might have a bit of pace, but if he's never got the ball then it's pointless. Most of the tine when he did have it he passed it back to Cash.
Theres something very wrong there - even compared to his first few cammeos for us
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I thought Mings was great today and dealt with everything that came into into our box effortlessly. Iroegbunam looked really good when he came on, as did Buendia. The problem today was mostly the midfield. McGinn looks fat and hardly contributed a thing first half, and Luiz was at his jogging around doing fuck all worst. The passing was really poor today, too. Still, a point stops the rot, and we need 6 points minimum from the next two games please.
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McGinn and Luiz have contributed fuck all between them for at least 80% of our matches this season.
That is where I struggle with Gerrard's tough talk about players who don't perform. Those two combine contributing fuck all week after week with being amongst the first names on the team sheet every time.
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I thought Mings was great today and dealt with everything that came into into our box effortlessly. Iroegbunam looked really good when he came on, as did Buendia.
Sounds about right, Mings got MOTM on the BBC player voting.
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And how are Newcastle six points and six places above us.
Simple they hired an experienced PL manager who could arrange the existing resources more effectively and supplement them with some additional good players.
We didn’t
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Where is this list of experienced managers who were available that suddenly could have been so much better than what we got? That’s not me saying Gerrard was the best available but to think we missed out on so much better and so much more experience simply has no merit. We had an experienced manager and he got fired. Rafa Benitez has a very successful history in the game and he was awful. Managers coming in from another country are not guaranteed succeed. Klopp didn’t walk in and magically turn Liverpool into what they are now. Ragnick at Man U has been a failure. Moyes failed multiple times before being reborn, second time around at West Ham. He was fired by them before. Conte would never have come to us.
There is simply no guarantee that “experience” equates to success. And we have also seen Vieira take Palace to the cup semi final, Arteta in a couple of seasons turn Arsenal into a side that might qualify for the CL. And he’s taken all manner of criticism. So before we hammer Gerrard after 6 months in the job let’s see how it plays out.
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Summary of post match comments fir our last 2 games:
Beat the goal down v Spurs, missed our chances then shipped 4 against a side gunning for Europe with 2 strikers on top form = worst Villa side in living memory.
Kept a clean sheet today and got a point away at Leicester whose last 4 home games were 3 wins and a draw and who are in the Europa Conference semi finals = the worst Villa side since the end of WW2..
Ha, very true.
... and utter bollocks!
Its really not bollocks, its actually spot on. Lots of the ultra negative comments on here are from
Posters who have already made their minds up about Gerrard, nothing short of a thumping win would of altered some of them, in fact some of the posters would of gone awol. After 4 defeats on the bounce, ill take a scrappy niggly draw at Leicester with a clean sheet.
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Time and again we labour with too many passengers. I'm particularly thinking about Konsa, SJM and Luiz who have been consistently bad for a number of games now. It isn't like we don't have alternatives and it is what is pissing me off about Gerrard's stewardship. I think Ollie was up for it today and better on his ownbup top but just needs a bit of luck. Bailey did okish and Coutinho unfortunately very anonymous. Very few deserve plaudits for that insipid display. MoM if there was one, Young.
I thought Bailey was absolutely rotten and hardly put a foot right. First half especially he was woeful. He was supposed to be an amazing winger but I can't recall a single time he took somebody on. Why he gets a start and not Buendia is baffling, he might have a bit of pace, but if he's never got the ball then it's pointless. Most of the tine when he did have it he passed it back to Cash.
Maybe it's my pessimism but I was actually expecting less! I thought he looked like a player who hasn't had regular starts and overcoming injuries. I thought he showed for the ball throughout the match. What he did with it, well...
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Followed the first half on here where we sounded abysmal. I did manage to see the second half and didn’t think we were actually that bad with a couple of exceptions.
Thought the subs worked well today, not convinced by Bailey and I’d like to see Chambers over Konsa at the moment.
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And how are Newcastle six points and six places above us.
Simple they hired an experienced PL manager who could arrange the existing resources more effectively and supplement them with some additional good players.
We didn’t
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Where is this list of experienced managers who were available that suddenly could have been so much better than what we got? That’s not me saying Gerrard was the best available but to think we missed out on so much better and so much more experience simply has no merit. We had an experienced manager and he got fired. Rafa Benitez has a very successful history in the game and he was awful. Managers coming in from another country are not guaranteed succeed. Klopp didn’t walk in and magically turn Liverpool into what they are now. Ragnick at Man U has been a failure. Moyes failed multiple times before being reborn, second time around at West Ham. He was fired by them before. Conte would never have come to us.
There is simply no guarantee that “experience” equates to success. And we have also seen Vieira take Palace to the cup semi final, Arteta in a couple of seasons turn Arsenal into a side that might qualify for the CL. And he’s taken all manner of criticism. So before we hammer Gerrard after 6 months in the job let’s see how it plays out.
I am stating facts. Had we gone for Howe it may not have worked. What we did is most certainly not working. Even Lamberk tried to change it (unsuccessfully) in the last few months. Gerrard does nothing.
What is increasingly clear is Gerrard + 150m - whatever we get in sales = MON/ Sherwood combo.
Worse the football is Benitez tedious.
Last summer more or less all of our players could have been sold for a good or more profit. That looks less likely with every passing weekend.
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I dozed off about 15 minutes into the first half when not much had happened then woke up in stoppage time at the end of the second. What did I miss?
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I dozed off about 15 minutes into the first half when not much had happened then woke up in stoppage time at the end of the second. What did I miss?
Nothing
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I dozed off about 15 minutes into the first half when not much had happened then woke up in stoppage time at the end of the second. What did I miss?
Schmeichel produced the best goalkeeping display in living memory and almost single handedly kept us at bay.
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I dozed off about 15 minutes into the first half when not much had happened then woke up in stoppage time at the end of the second. What did I miss?
Probably just a lot of histrionics in the match thread.
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And how are Newcastle six points and six places above us.
Simple they hired an experienced PL manager who could arrange the existing resources more effectively and supplement them with some additional good players.
We didn’t
This
Where is this list of experienced managers who were available that suddenly could have been so much better than what we got? That’s not me saying Gerrard was the best available but to think we missed out on so much better and so much more experience simply has no merit. We had an experienced manager and he got fired. Rafa Benitez has a very successful history in the game and he was awful. Managers coming in from another country are not guaranteed succeed. Klopp didn’t walk in and magically turn Liverpool into what they are now. Ragnick at Man U has been a failure. Moyes failed multiple times before being reborn, second time around at West Ham. He was fired by them before. Conte would never have come to us.
There is simply no guarantee that “experience” equates to success. And we have also seen Vieira take Palace to the cup semi final, Arteta in a couple of seasons turn Arsenal into a side that might qualify for the CL. And he’s taken all manner of criticism. So before we hammer Gerrard after 6 months in the job let’s see how it plays out.
Yes correct. Gerrard was the the best candidate from the realistic list of candidates at the time of Smiths sacking. Now he’s here, we’ve got to give him time to develop what is largely Smith’s squad. Smith was allowed that with Bruce’s squad so why is Gerrard not being allowed it?? Potters name cropped up again which made me chuckle, mighty Brighton a full 3 points ahead of us and played a game more!!!
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And how are Newcastle six points and six places above us.
Simple they hired an experienced PL manager who could arrange the existing resources more effectively and supplement them with some additional good players.
We didn’t
This
Where is this list of experienced managers who were available that suddenly could have been so much better than what we got? That’s not me saying Gerrard was the best available but to think we missed out on so much better and so much more experience simply has no merit. We had an experienced manager and he got fired. Rafa Benitez has a very successful history in the game and he was awful. Managers coming in from another country are not guaranteed succeed. Klopp didn’t walk in and magically turn Liverpool into what they are now. Ragnick at Man U has been a failure. Moyes failed multiple times before being reborn, second time around at West Ham. He was fired by them before. Conte would never have come to us.
There is simply no guarantee that “experience” equates to success. And we have also seen Vieira take Palace to the cup semi final, Arteta in a couple of seasons turn Arsenal into a side that might qualify for the CL. And he’s taken all manner of criticism. So before we hammer Gerrard after 6 months in the job let’s see how it plays out.
Yes correct. Gerrard was the the best candidate from the realistic list of candidates at the time of Smiths sacking. Now he’s here, we’ve got to give him time to develop what is largely Smith’s squad. Smith was allowed that with Bruce’s squad so why is Gerrard not being allowed it?? Potters name cropped up again which made me chuckle, mighty Brighton a full 3 points ahead of us and played a game more!!!
Hes clearly going to get time - so its a mute point. But, what Smith did was show improvement until the point he didnt and then he was sacked. Hand on heart, how many people can say the Gerrard has been an improvement on where we were under smith.
Thats not saying anything is right or wrong, but I dont think the narrative is correct to say that Dean was given time - he earnt that time.
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Sorry this thing that it’s clear that the style under Gerrard will be awful is at best assumptive and at worst just bollocks. We’re not playing flowing football at the moment clearly, but it’s a team low on confidence. We have also played really well under Gerrard. It just strikes me that people are cherry picking to suit their argument. A team being in poor form does not mean the manager is clueless or hopeless. It also doesn’t say he’ll turn it round and be a success. But it’s nonsense to call him Sherwood or write him off yet.
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And how are Newcastle six points and six places above us.
Simple they hired an experienced PL manager who could arrange the existing resources more effectively and supplement them with some additional good players.
We didn’t
But Rob you have to admit however clueless on the pitch our Steven is great interviewee?
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Never been so bored at a game
Well since the Lambert days
Watkins has been getting lessons off Ashley young how to dive .
He's not good enough
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The amount of attacks that ended with Watkins first touch.
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And how are Newcastle six points and six places above us.
Simple they hired an experienced PL manager who could arrange the existing resources more effectively and supplement them with some additional good players.
We didn’t
But Rob you have to admit however clueless on the pitch our Steven is great interviewee?
Well to ve fair he has always been very media friendly. Who knows maybe with an entourage of helpful sycophants talking him up if makes him a great one
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Sorry this thing that it’s clear that the style under Gerrard will be awful is at best assumptive and at worst just bollocks. We’re not playing flowing football at the moment clearly, but it’s a team low on confidence. We have also played really well under Gerrard. It just strikes me that people are cherry picking to suit their argument. A team being in poor form does not mean the manager is clueless or hopeless. It also doesn’t say he’ll turn it round and be a success. But it’s nonsense to call him Sherwood or write him off yet.
He shouldnt be compared to Sherw**d - he has intergrity and hes no chancer.
He might not turn out to be a good fit for us, and I have been pretty critical of him, but to compare him to Tatics Tim isn't fair
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First half was as boring a match as I’ve been to in a while. I really struggle to see what the system is or how it’s going to work if we don’t press the ball, which we didn’t. Mcginn is playing so out of position it’s really hampering his game.
Better second half but they were there for the taking and we failed to do so. Watkins worked hard, as did Cash and Young. Buendia has to start next game.
Happy to take a point but really don’t want another summer or rebuilding.
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Never been so bored at a game
Well since the Lambert days
Watkins has been getting lessons off Ashley young how to dive .
He's not good enough
I think permanent left 4% of my life in those years. Not sure when it will be returned
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I thought Mings was great today and dealt with everything that came into into our box effortlessly. Iroegbunam looked really good when he came on, as did Buendia.
Sounds about right, Mings got MOTM on the BBC player voting.
He was mine too. Konsa looked a bit iffy though. What’s happened with him? Bailey has been a very poor acquisition, arrives with an injury, plays a bit part v Everton and has an influence for 15 minutes, scores and is injured kicking the ball hard. He’s done nothing since except stupid fouls away in dangerous positions. He’s been a complete waste of money. I thought or was lead to believe he had pace. There’s not much evidence of that.
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Summary of post match comments fir our last 2 games:
Beat the goal down v Spurs, missed our chances then shipped 4 against a side gunning for Europe with 2 strikers on top form = worst Villa side in living memory.
Kept a clean sheet today and got a point away at Leicester whose last 4 home games were 3 wins and a draw and who are in the Europa Conference semi finals = the worst Villa side since the end of WW2..
Ha, very true.
... and utter bollocks!
Its really not bollocks, its actually spot on. Lots of the ultra negative comments on here are from
Posters who have already made their minds up about Gerrard, nothing short of a thumping win would of altered some of them, in fact some of the posters would of gone awol. After 4 defeats on the bounce, ill take a scrappy niggly draw at Leicester with a clean sheet.
Thank you, you've saved me having to post as this is exactly what I would have commented. Granted, things are not great but this was a decent point and new managers need time. Understand emotions are always high in the post-match thread but some ridiculous hyperbole on here tonight. We're not in a position at present to go and hammer Leicester away from home, and many people commented before the game on our inability to grind out draws.
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It’s pretty obvious there’s a confidence issue - unsurprisingly - I wouldn’t say it’s all down to tactics. Getting a point away is a step in the right direction.
Broadcasting that they are all shit and will be flogged in the summer might have something to do with it.
Did he say that? Or words to that affect
From today’s post match interview.
“We’ll try and get as many points on the board as we can and try to finish in a position from which we can build,” he said. “Then we can look for the right players to try and have a strong pre-season.”
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Didn’t watch the game and only followed the match thread for the first 20 mins. It didn’t sound good so I’m somewhat encouraged that we picked up a decent point away from home against a good team. I’d have taken that before the game, onwards and hopefully upwards.
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It’s pretty obvious there’s a confidence issue - unsurprisingly - I wouldn’t say it’s all down to tactics. Getting a point away is a step in the right direction.
Broadcasting that they are all shit and will be flogged in the summer might have something to do with it.
Did he say that? Or words to that affect
From today’s post match interview.
“We’ll try and get as many points on the board as we can and try to finish in a position from which we can build,” he said. “Then we can look for the right players to try and have a strong pre-season.”
I’m not overly enthusiastic about wholesale changes although accept that we need reinforcements in key positions, Gerrard certainly needs to get more out of the present squad and work with what he’s got.
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Today was all about the result not the performance. Gerrard basically said that before the match. A draw at Leicester is a good result. Mission accomplished.
Beat Norwich next week and the pressure is off. Stevie G then has the license to take more risks, see what we have in the locker before assembling his own squad.
A good day at the office.
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I went to IKEA today rather than watch the game.
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Summary of post match comments fir our last 2 games:
Beat the goal down v Spurs, missed our chances then shipped 4 against a side gunning for Europe with 2 strikers on top form = worst Villa side in living memory.
Kept a clean sheet today and got a point away at Leicester whose last 4 home games were 3 wins and a draw and who are in the Europa Conference semi finals = the worst Villa side since the end of WW2..
Ha, very true.
... and utter bollocks!
Its really not bollocks, its actually spot on. Lots of the ultra negative comments on here are from
Posters who have already made their minds up about Gerrard, nothing short of a thumping win would of altered some of them, in fact some of the posters would of gone awol. After 4 defeats on the bounce, ill take a scrappy niggly draw at Leicester with a clean sheet.
Thank you, you've saved me having to post as this is exactly what I would have commented. Granted, things are not great but this was a decent point and new managers need time. Understand emotions are always high in the post-match thread but some ridiculous hyperbole on here tonight. We're not in a position at present to go and hammer Leicester away from home, and many people commented before the game on our inability to grind out draws.
Good post
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Well, I was at the game, and not a great game but we got dug in and got a good point, so we’ll done Villa, I had a good day.
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And how are Newcastle six points and six places above us.
Simple they hired an experienced PL manager who could arrange the existing resources more effectively and supplement them with some additional good players.
We didn’t
This
Where is this list of experienced managers who were available that suddenly could have been so much better than what we got? That’s not me saying Gerrard was the best available but to think we missed out on so much better and so much more experience simply has no merit. We had an experienced manager and he got fired. Rafa Benitez has a very successful history in the game and he was awful. Managers coming in from another country are not guaranteed succeed. Klopp didn’t walk in and magically turn Liverpool into what they are now. Ragnick at Man U has been a failure. Moyes failed multiple times before being reborn, second time around at West Ham. He was fired by them before. Conte would never have come to us.
There is simply no guarantee that “experience” equates to success. And we have also seen Vieira take Palace to the cup semi final, Arteta in a couple of seasons turn Arsenal into a side that might qualify for the CL. And he’s taken all manner of criticism. So before we hammer Gerrard after 6 months in the job let’s see how it plays out.
Yes correct. Gerrard was the the best candidate from the realistic list of candidates at the time of Smiths sacking. Now he’s here, we’ve got to give him time to develop what is largely Smith’s squad. Smith was allowed that with Bruce’s squad so why is Gerrard not being allowed it?? Potters name cropped up again which made me chuckle, mighty Brighton a full 3 points ahead of us and played a game more!!!
Hes clearly going to get time - so its a mute point. But, what Smith did was show improvement until the point he didnt and then he was sacked. Hand on heart, how many people can say the Gerrard has been an improvement on where we were under smith.
Thats not saying anything is right or wrong, but I dont think the narrative is correct to say that Dean was given time - he earnt that time.
I agree to a point but Smith earnt his time in a substandard league. The following season with Bruce’s squad we were Awful but he was given time to build his own set up with relative success last season. Gerrard has gone straight into the PL with a squad that was failing under Smith. They were likely (have) failed under Gerrard too.
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I just watched the last twenty minutes.
i thought we looked pretty good.
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I was really looking forward to the start of new season. We had a Villa supporting manager and captain. They were going to fly the famous colours into Europe. Now we're limping over the line without either man at the club and the most exciting thing I'm looking forward to is seeing the drawings for the ground redevelopment. I'm underwhelmed to say the least.
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The collective groan at 2pm walking towards the ground said it all.
Gerrard talks a good game, then plays the same old same old. If Bailey's the best trainer of the week, the rest must have been awful.
Get Chambers back in, give Konsa time to get his confidence back. Get Buendia back in instead of Bailey. Start Iroegbunam instead of Luiz. Give Chrisene some game time.
For the love of McGrath, get players in who can do more than hold the shape for an hour and hope for the best.
And as ever, does anybody know what the thousands of Leicester plod are actually prepared for? Full-scale nuclear war? Alien invasion?
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A full scale cavalry charge I presumed. Saw fewer horses at Aintree the other week.
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Leicester were a bit worse than us and we weren't great. I didn't see a lot of promise though from that showing apart from avoiding a defeat.
The team can't be tired in comparison to Leicester, but the fortnight off didn't make much difference apart from a clean sheet, and the defence did ok.
Every time the substitution board came out, everyone presumed it would be Bailey. He must be showing some form in training, but how he stayed on was a mystery.
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It’s pretty obvious there’s a confidence issue - unsurprisingly - I wouldn’t say it’s all down to tactics. Getting a point away is a step in the right direction.
Broadcasting that they are all shit and will be flogged in the summer might have something to do with it.
Did he say that? Or words to that affect
From today’s post match interview.
“We’ll try and get as many points on the board as we can and try to finish in a position from which we can build,” he said. “Then we can look for the right players to try and have a strong pre-season.”
I’m not overly enthusiastic about wholesale changes although accept that we need reinforcements in key positions, Gerrard certainly needs to get more out of the present squad and work with what he’s got.
Perhaps he's a cheque-book manager?
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It’s pretty obvious there’s a confidence issue - unsurprisingly - I wouldn’t say it’s all down to tactics. Getting a point away is a step in the right direction.
Broadcasting that they are all shit and will be flogged in the summer might have something to do with it.
Did he say that? Or words to that affect
From today’s post match interview.
“We’ll try and get as many points on the board as we can and try to finish in a position from which we can build,” he said. “Then we can look for the right players to try and have a strong pre-season.”
I’m not overly enthusiastic about wholesale changes although accept that we need reinforcements in key positions, Gerrard certainly needs to get more out of the present squad and work with what he’s got.
Perhaps he's a cheque-book manager?
In his G Nev interview he did talk about how at rangers they had to replace the whole team - which in PL terms is a big investment as we’ve spent like 350m to get this far
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It’s pretty obvious there’s a confidence issue - unsurprisingly - I wouldn’t say it’s all down to tactics. Getting a point away is a step in the right direction.
Broadcasting that they are all shit and will be flogged in the summer might have something to do with it.
Did he say that? Or words to that affect
From today’s post match interview.
“We’ll try and get as many points on the board as we can and try to finish in a position from which we can build,” he said. “Then we can look for the right players to try and have a strong pre-season.”
I’m not overly enthusiastic about wholesale changes although accept that we need reinforcements in key positions, Gerrard certainly needs to get more out of the present squad and work with what he’s got.
Perhaps he's a cheque-book manager?
Well him and his team clearly aren’t coaches.
Edit. Well they obviously are but not too great, especially given the funfair surrounding Beale.
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Funfair would be more enjoyable!! 🤦♂️
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The amount of attacks that ended with Watkins first touch.
I only managed to watch about 20 minutes of the 2nd half and this pissed me off. He cant hold up anything.
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The amount of attacks that ended with Watkins first touch.
I only managed to watch about 20 minutes of the 2nd half and this pissed me off. He cant hold up anything.
Second half when he managed to actually turn someone from a throw in, burst forward and had one defender tracking him, he somehow managed to bounce the ball off his weaker foot and ended up falling over. He has to be one of the least confident players I can remember at Villa. Remember when he spanked one into the corner against Liverpool in that 7-2 game? Where did he go.
More to the point, what are the coaches doing to help him? Or is he just going to be replaced?
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The amount of attacks that ended with Watkins first touch.
I only managed to watch about 20 minutes of the 2nd half and this pissed me off. He cant hold up anything.
Second half when he managed to actually turn someone from a throw in, burst forward and had one defender tracking him, he somehow managed to bounce the ball off his weaker foot and ended up falling over. He has to be one of the least confident players I can remember at Villa. Remember when he spanked one into the corner against Liverpool in that 7-2 game? Where did he go.
More to the point, what are the coaches doing to help him? Or is he just going to be replaced?
I fucking hope so.
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Me too. He was full of running today, just had zero quality. He got past a defender, and his resulting shot nearly went out for a throw in.
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Some positives from today; got an point away to a good side, kept a clean sheet, stopped the losing run and got some development time for some of the youngsters. It’s a good result and hopefully we can build on it in the remaining games.
Some of our players are clearly lacking confidence. Sometimes I think supporters just expect players to turn the confidence on just because they’re playing. Not playing won’t necessarily help someone get their confidence back. I hope Bailey gets a run of games so we can see more of what he can do. He might not work in the SG system but think we need to see more before making that decision.
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Agreed again. Say what you like about Gabby, and there's much to say, he had a knack for finding a goal in big games and when we needed it. I never have much confidence at all in Ollie finishing, even his penalty the other week I thought he'd miss.
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Well that's a shock, we're gonna be last on MOTD!
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And how are Newcastle six points and six places above us.
Simple they hired an experienced PL manager who could arrange the existing resources more effectively and supplement them with some additional good players.
We didn’t
This
Where is this list of experienced managers who were available that suddenly could have been so much better than what we got? That’s not me saying Gerrard was the best available but to think we missed out on so much better and so much more experience simply has no merit. We had an experienced manager and he got fired. Rafa Benitez has a very successful history in the game and he was awful. Managers coming in from another country are not guaranteed succeed. Klopp didn’t walk in and magically turn Liverpool into what they are now. Ragnick at Man U has been a failure. Moyes failed multiple times before being reborn, second time around at West Ham. He was fired by them before. Conte would never have come to us.
There is simply no guarantee that “experience” equates to success. And we have also seen Vieira take Palace to the cup semi final, Arteta in a couple of seasons turn Arsenal into a side that might qualify for the CL. And he’s taken all manner of criticism. So before we hammer Gerrard after 6 months in the job let’s see how it plays out.
Some very good points made there TV
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A few things stood out to me, Coutino's work rate has fallen away badly, Watkins confidence is shot, Bailey needs a good pre season and it is clear to me that there is no unity in the side. I did not get any sense in that game that players were working for one another, some of them I guess can see no future for themselves at the club and appear to just be going through the motions.
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We grinded out a 0-0, away, at a team who are no mugs over the past 5 or 6 years. Happy with that. If we could have managed more of those over the past three years we would be in better overall shape as a club.
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Would’ve taken a point beforehand to relatively happy but I reckon several of this lot have clocked off. Spine of the team needs an urgent upgrade and wondering whether Courtiniho has decided this project is not for him, he’s been playing that way for a while now.
SG is going nowhere and I’m fine with that. It’s the players I’m more pissed off with regards this no show of a season.
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Well at least we didn’t lose, which is good and pretty much job done now in terms of staying up. Now’s the time to experiment and see what some of the kids can do. We’ve got effectively 6 games now to have a look at the whole squad and plan for the summer window.
I only watched the first half, but we lacked confidence, composure and seemingly had very little idea of what to do to break Leicester down when in possession. Maybe that was to do with the fear of losing the ball and getting done on the break. It was painful viewing at times.
I’m seriously starting to wonder whether Gerrard was the right appointment. It’s likely that he’ll get money to spend and a pre-season, but this appointment looks increasingly likely to end in tears before Christmas. Can’t help wondering whether we should be looking for a replacement over the next 6 weeks and let a new guy start a-fresh at the end of the season. Looks unlikely, but might be best all round if we really mean business next season.
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The amount of attacks that ended with Watkins first touch.
I only managed to watch about 20 minutes of the 2nd half and this pissed me off. He cant hold up anything.
Second half when he managed to actually turn someone from a throw in, burst forward and had one defender tracking him, he somehow managed to bounce the ball off his weaker foot and ended up falling over. He has to be one of the least confident players I can remember at Villa. Remember when he spanked one into the corner against Liverpool in that 7-2 game? Where did he go.
More to the point, what are the coaches doing to help him? Or is he just going to be replaced?
I fucking hope so.
He was so frustrating today and he done my head in. The amount of times he made the wrong decision, it was unbelievable. I can’t believe this is the same player from last season. If only we had Archer in the squad, he looks the perfect replacement. Hindsight is a wonderful thing though and hopefully he’s learning his craft and and carry that experience he’s learned to us next season.
I know these leagues are mikes apart, but natural instinct is there with Archer and at the moment It certainly isn’t with Watkins.
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We grinded out a 0-0, away, at a team who are no mugs over the past 5 or 6 years. Happy with that. If we could have managed more of those over the past three years we would be in better overall shape as a club.
Or to put it another way, we lacked ambition against a club with more than half an eye in their team selection and performance on a European semi final on Thursday. If we had managed a few more scruffy draws over the past 3 months we’d be in better shape.
I was pleased with the improvement defensively, both in shape and individual performance, but a more assertive performance might have seen us win the game.
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It had a pre-season friendly feel about it.
Needed the clean sheet, so happy about that.
I’d put Chambers & Buendia back in for Norwich.
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I was pleased with the improvement defensively, both in shape and individual performance, but a more assertive performance might have seen us win the game.
Yup, bang on.
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It had a pre-season friendly feel about it.
Needed the clean sheet, so happy about that.
I’d put Chambers & Buendia back in for Norwich.
And Nakamba. Although apparently, SG reckons he's not up to speed yet? He surely can't do any worse with some of the dire midfield performances of late?
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We stayed compact and had the chances to win, after the run we’ve had I’d take this result everyday. Ollie had a good game and looks like he’s about to start scoring a few between now and the end of the season. Question marks over Coutinho and Bailey though. I’d play Coutinho for home games only and Bailey just looks like a fish out of water (where has his pace gone?)
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We stayed compact and had the chances to win, after the run we’ve had I’d take this result everyday. Ollie had a good game and looks like he’s about to start scoring a few between now and the end of the season. Question marks over Coutinho and Bailey though. I’d play Coutinho for home games only and Bailey just looks like a fish out of water (where has his pace gone?)
Not sure if he was under instruction or it was a lack of confidence but Bailey was always looking to offload the ball rather than take responsibility himself. I hope he is given a few more opportunities to show if he’s up to it rather than we just ditch him.
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Bailey was woeful. Did no tracking back and nothing on the half dozen times he touched the ball.
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We stayed compact and had the chances to win, after the run we’ve had I’d take this result everyday. Ollie had a good game and looks like he’s about to start scoring a few between now and the end of the season. Question marks over Coutinho and Bailey though. I’d play Coutinho for home games only and Bailey just looks like a fish out of water (where has his pace gone?)
Not sure if he was under instruction or it was a lack of confidence but Bailey was always looking to offload the ball rather than take responsibility himself. I hope he is given a few more opportunities to show if he’s up to it rather than we just ditch him.
I think that's why he's playing. It's not a tactical decision, they're giving him a chance to show something before cutting their losses.
Doesn't look good for him from what I've seen, 'flaky' would be a generous assessment.
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Bailey is dreadful. What an utter waste of money.
He makes Heskey look like a world beater.
I'm starting to question to quality of Bundesliga defenders. Sancho looked like a world-beating winger over there, and has been gash in the premier league, same goes for Bailey. What odds on Haaland signing for City and struggling to get 15 goals?
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Its 'funny' really that three Bundedliga wingers moved to the Premier League last summer for £80m, £30m and £1.8m and only the latter has looked any good.
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Its 'funny' really that three Bundedliga wingers moved to the Premier League last summer for £80m, £30m and £1.8m and only the latter has looked any good.
He was the only one with prior senior experience in England as well though.
Edit. You’d also say that the more expensive signings aren’t playing in a system which suits their style of play, they’ve been or are trying to be shoehorned into unfamiliar roles at at least nothing like what made them successful and attractive to buyers in the first place. Poor recruitment or joined up thinking about how to utilise your assets.
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Bailey is dreadful. What an utter waste of money.
He makes Heskey look like a world beater.
I'm starting to question to quality of Bundesliga defenders. Sancho looked like a world-beating winger over there, and has been gash in the premier league, same goes for Bailey. What odds on Haaland signing for City and struggling to get 15 goals?
I'm utterly convinced Haaland is going to be a massive dud when he moves.
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First half was pretty dull really. Second half was better but I just couldn't see us scoring. It was frustrating really because Leicester were there for the taking, they were really poor.
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I can only think that Bailey was given 90 minutes to try and prove himself. He should have been hooked at half time. Pleased with the end of the losing run though. Nakamba, Ings and Buendia to start next week for me with Iroegbunam getting a good 25 minute outing.
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Bailey is dreadful. What an utter waste of money.
He makes Heskey look like a world beater.
I'm starting to question to quality of Bundesliga defenders. Sancho looked like a world-beating winger over there, and has been gash in the premier league, same goes for Bailey. What odds on Haaland signing for City and struggling to get 15 goals?
I'm utterly convinced Haaland is going to be a massive dud when he moves.
Really? I'm sure he's going to be a beast, especially at City where he'll get 10 chances a game.
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I think Bailey went through the gears once yesterday in the second half and actually did a few people. He looks like he's playing within himself. He doesn't look fit enough to press or sprint, maybe a confidence issue or a fear factor.
We can't afford to write off £30m, so we have to hope a pre-season helps. But we need way, way more. Buendia ought to start against Norwich.
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In the grand scheme of things it’s a good point. But I’m seriously concerned about giving Gerrard a big transfer budget in the summer.
can’t waste it much worse than Dean Smith did.
Gerrard hasn't had a transfer budget yet. He's mainly working with Smith's players, although he has done no better with them than Smith did, probably worse.
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Bailey was woeful. Did no tracking back and nothing on the half dozen times he touched the ball.
He looked way off the pace, really sluggish. Yet Gerrard said hes been our best Trainer the last few weeks and wanted to reward players like that.
Its no good if players cant apply that to match day though.
Buendia is reported to be a good trainer as well but at least he seems to bring that to a match from the little we see of him. I'm not sure what he has to do to get a start.
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Bailey equals Adama mark 2. We should persist with him though.
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At least with the likes of Bolasie you got some outrageous bit of skill before he invariably gave the ball away. With Bailey you just get nothing. Wonder if he'll be tried against Norwich in a one more chance sort of way. I think Buendia will be pissed off he doesn't start against his old club though. He's three times the player Bailey is as well.
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Bailey has had so many injury problems that I can understand his nerves about really opening up. I reckon the rest of this season will be about getting his confidence back ahead of a big fitness push in the summer and hopefully he'll be the player we wanted next season.
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Wasn't the best of game but we didn't lose and we got a point and clean sheet and a great day out with friends.
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The result was ok - away at KP isn’t easy - but it’s the manner of the individual and team performance that continues to concern.
Too many of the individuals look a pale shadow of what we believe they can be (Konsa gets a special mention, but Watkins and McGInn are in that category). And the team look rudderless.
Lots needs to be put right.
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I think Bailey went through the gears once yesterday in the second half and actually did a few people. He looks like he's playing within himself. He doesn't look fit enough to press or sprint, maybe a confidence issue or a fear factor.
We can't afford to write off £30m, so we have to hope a pre-season helps. But we need way, way more. Buendia ought to start against Norwich.
Yep completely agree. I wouldn’t write Bailey off. Clearly he hasn’t done anywhere near enough, but I think the lack of pre-season and persistent niggly injuries have completely disrupted him. It’s hard to adapt to the Premier League anyway, but you couple it with how disrupted it’s been for him and it’s understandable as to why he’s struggled.
I hope he’ll be in a much better place with a full preseason behind him.
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Somewhere else, hopefully.
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I thought my Dad made an interesting point this morning about our outfield players yesterday namely that our defence cost 50m, our midfield 17m and our attack 53m. Not exactly massive amounts by current PL standards.
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We need to persevere with Bailey. He needs a run of games for a start which he hasn't really had. He may not work out but we've paid £25m for him so we might has well give him a chance. Besides, mostly everyone was pretty excited when he signed.
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Somewhere else, hopefully.
What's the point of hoping he comes good somewhere else?
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Somewhere else, hopefully.
What's the point of hoping he comes good somewhere else?
maybe we could loan him out somewhere, he does well then we flog him for big bucks.
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Bailey has looked completely fucked off that he couldn’t carry on the form we saw early on. He’s clearly a confidence and momentum type of player that in full flow he’s outstanding. He’s had a terribly stop start time with us. And as a result looks less this his best. And I don’t think it helps behind the scenes his agent/father in law or whatever he is, is probably in his ear. I still think he needs to be given next season to establish himself. He has more than enough ability
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Utter boring crap.
Anyone who thinks this manager is going to get us anywhere is deluded. Talks a good game but thats where it ends. I'd be absolutely amazed if the owners trust him or Lange with sacks of money this summer.
Time to look at other options.
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I thought Watkins was better yesterday. Difficult job to do when Gerrard's putting ten men behind the ball. Nearest teammate to him was Bailey which isn't a good thing either.
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Utter boring crap.
Anyone who thinks this manager is going to get us anywhere is deluded. Talks a good game but thats where it ends. I'd be absolutely amazed if the owners trust him or Lange with sacks of money this summer.
Time to look at other options.
May I suggest VillaTalk.
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Utter boring crap.
Anyone who thinks this manager is going to get us anywhere is deluded. Talks a good game but thats where it ends. I'd be absolutely amazed if the owners trust him or Lange with sacks of money this summer.
Time to look at other options.
May I suggest VillaTalk.
Or Tbar.
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We need to persevere with Bailey. He needs a run of games for a start which he hasn't really had. He may not work out but we've paid £25m for him so we might has well give him a chance. Besides, mostly everyone was pretty excited when he signed.
We know there is a player there, but he does not fit in to the Gerrard way of playing. (playing a narrow game without reliance on wide players). Not sure why he's getting picked if he can't play his game - frustrating for the coaching staff, the player, the team and us.
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Does TBar still live?
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Does TBar still live?
Last post on there looks like it was June last year.
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Does TBar still live?
Last post on there looks like it was June last year.
They ran out of biscuits.
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Time to look at other options.
Who do you suggest?
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Utter boring crap.
Anyone who thinks this manager is going to get us anywhere is deluded. Talks a good game but thats where it ends. I'd be absolutely amazed if the owners trust him or Lange with sacks of money this summer.
Time to look at other options.
Is the wrong answer.
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Instead of "run Forrest run" our new tactic is "run Ollie run" - 2 weeks to prepare for that game and that was the sum total of our tactical geniuses!
Very underwhelming.