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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on April 09, 2022, 04:30:50 PM
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C'mon Villa get your fucking shit together today. No fucking around. Get into these ****** and win tonight FFS.
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Good to see Marv on the bench, but Ings and Watkins again? Not exactly Son and Kane to be as polite as possible.
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Should have sent Iroegbunam out on loan.
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Probably our best team, Nakamba (pre-injury) form aside. We have to got at Spurs today, no fear and not too much respect. If we go a goal down, carry on going for it.
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I'd have never guessed that line up.
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Buendia should be playing, Mcginn should have a little time on the bench.
Is it time to try Watkins and Ings again? It just doesn't work.
Just win Villa
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Oh, and take our chances when they come!!!!
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Turn up please Villa.
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As strong a squad as we have put out for months.
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Good to see Marv on the bench, but Ings and Watkins again? Not exactly Son and Kane to be as polite as possible.
He's clearly gone for the line up or system that worked well for a few weeks freeing up Coutinho, but fuck me it's all very predictable
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Them
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All the usual failiers selected again.... yawn
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Please win Villa . Don't wait 2nd half to start playing.
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All the usual failiers selected again.... yawn
And same game plan no doubt.
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All the usual failiers selected again.... yawn
The only one unlucky not to be in the team is Buendia I reckon, and you'd have to drop Coutinho to get him in there.
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What was it Einstein said about the definition of madness? :-\
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2 strikers might be ok against 3 CBs...Their right wing back is one of the worst footballers in the league, should be looking to exploit him at every opportunity.
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It's the little things that sometimes annoy me, but why have Sky just shown the Tottenham side first? WE are the home side, not them feckers. Sycophantic shithouses.
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Sanson only gets one chance to show what he can do?
Fucking horseshit
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Sanson only gets one chance to show what he can do?
Fucking horseshit
I thought the same.
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Gotta admit their front 3 scare me, but it is good to see Marv back on the bench.
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How Gerrard can play that midfield yet again is beyond me. What message does that send out to those on the bench. It's piss poor from the whole coaching team. He talked about being ruthless and it just seems to be the same old players week in, week out. Sanson must be pissed off being dropped. Assume he will definately be moved on in the Summer. I hope I'm wrong but this could be a long afternoon.
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I'd have never guessed that line up.
Lolz.
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Gerrard is giving insanity a new life. Watkins and Ings when has that worked this season? And he keeps picking McGinn based on reputation alone. The front 3 shoud be Buendia, Coutinho and Watkins.
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Moans about players giving the ball away in midfield all the time then plays the three we’ve seen not work fuck knows how many times already.
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As the home team it would be nice if we played the game on the front foot. It would also be nice if the game is not over if we go behind early.
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Yet another chance to see Luiz ambling about not breaking sweat and giving the ball away constantly.
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I'm expecting nothing: I find it's better that way! Agree with Villa Lew that it's nice to have Nakamba back, though.
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Yet another chance to see Luiz ambling about not breaking sweat and giving the ball away constantly.
But to be fair, he change the game in a positive way v Wolves when replacing Sanson.
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Gerrard is giving insanity a new life. Watkins and Ings when has that worked this season? And he keeps picking McGinn based on reputation alone. The front 3 shoud be Buendia, Coutinho and Watkins.
I'd prefer Ings rather than Watkins. Better technique to work with two gifted 10s.
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Agree about Sky
thought exactly the same
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Gerrard is giving insanity a new life. Watkins and Ings when has that worked this season? And he keeps picking McGinn based on reputation alone. The front 3 shoud be Buendia, Coutinho and Watkins.
Yep, fucking hopeless mate. Was expecting some changes after last week's shitfest. But as always, all fart, no shit.
1:30am here. Don't know if my tired eyes can stay open to watch McGinn and Luiz struggle to pass the ball to a teammate
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Try not to fanny about at the back.
Try not to fanny about in the middle.
Try not to give it away all the time
FTF!
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If anyone has any information on collection of waters I’d very much appreciate a message…
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FFS! 0-1
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If anyone has any information on collection of waters I’d very much appreciate a message…
Don't bother. 0-1.
Shite.
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Game over.
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Fucking useless.
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Fucking hell. 3 minutes in and we GIFT them another goal. Whose header was it out of the Konsa.. Poor, poor goal to concede.
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Bloody hell I only nipped to the loo.
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Fucking shambolic.
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Great goal.
But yeah….fuck.
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Konza very pour.. Shit
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konsa a lamb two weeks in a row.
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Bad mistake dropping Chambers
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Konsa has been woeful of late. Once again we’ve started a game half asleep.
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Yet another balls up from a Villa player. Konsa really hasn't impressed me this season.
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Awful header from Konsa under no pressure.
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Why do these ****** always sing their shit songs slowly? ******.
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Crap header from Konsa, great finish by Son though
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nice one cash!
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How come when we press they just play it around us, leaving us looking like headless chickens, but when they press us we panic and end up hoofing it?
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All three of our midfielders ball watching for the Spurs goal. Gash.
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How come when we press they just play it around us, leaving us looking like headless chickens, but when they press us we panic and end up hoofing it?
Better players at the back and better options to pass to in midfield.
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Mings watching Son as well
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Poor execution from Ings.
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They got a massive slice of luck with the rebound from Kanes shot which was going to the corner flag too.
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Why is it that we keep passing it backwards all the time. We never look to go at them from the off.
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What's with the empty seats?
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Our midfield is really shit.
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They got a massive slice of luck with the rebound from Kanes shot which was going to the corner flag too.
They say you make your own luck in football but we weren't even switched on. Players ball watching and not ready for the rebounds. Just wank defending yet again. It must drive Gerrard nuts.
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They got a massive slice of luck with the rebound from Kanes shot which was going to the corner flag too.
They say you make your own luck in football but we weren't even switched on. Players ball watching and not ready for the rebounds. Just wank defending yet again. It must drive Gerrard nuts.
Exactly. You cannot blame Gerrard for any of teh goals we have conceded lately - all gifts.
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Too slow a start again! Do we have any gears to go up? Making it so easy for Spurs
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They got a massive slice of luck with the rebound from Kanes shot which was going to the corner flag too.
They say you make your own luck in football but we weren't even switched on. Players ball watching and not ready for the rebounds. Just wank defending yet again. It must drive Gerrard nuts.
Exactly. You cannot blame Gerrard for any of teh goals we have conceded lately - all gifts.
He headed it straight to Kane at the top of the box..!
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I actually wouldn't blame the midfield for that goal at all, it was all Konsa's fault, but what is true is that they are absolutely gash at keeping possession and controlling the game.
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McGinn shit pass again.
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They got a massive slice of luck with the rebound from Kanes shot which was going to the corner flag too.
They say you make your own luck in football but we weren't even switched on. Players ball watching and not ready for the rebounds. Just wank defending yet again. It must drive Gerrard nuts.
Exactly. You cannot blame Gerrard for any of teh goals we have conceded lately - all gifts.
He keeps picking the players.
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They got a massive slice of luck with the rebound from Kanes shot which was going to the corner flag too.
They say you make your own luck in football but we weren't even switched on. Players ball watching and not ready for the rebounds. Just wank defending yet again. It must drive Gerrard nuts.
Players watching wasn't the problem, the problem was that Konsa got the flight of the ball wrong so he couldn't get any power on the header, which gave Kane a free effort and then the rebound fell perfectly for Son.
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SHOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTT
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They got a massive slice of luck with the rebound from Kanes shot which was going to the corner flag too.
They made it their business to be attacking our goal. QED
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McGinn’s form us is fucking dreadful.
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brilliant JJ. Good save too.
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Good Villa. Come on!
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When we get the ball in promising areas, the players off the ball just stand and watch half the time. Fucking move!
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nice one cash!
I was a bit worried about how the ref would react to that rather strong challenge.
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Much better. Great challenge from Mings, nothing wrong with that. Andy Hinchcliffe is a Spurs loving melon. Fuck off arse chin.
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Great last 5 minutes.
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The French commentators want a red for Mings. They are outraged.
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Much better aggression from Villa.
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Fucking Spurs, going down again. We've been brilliant since the goal.
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Good response from us
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Love a roll around on the floor don't they?
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To be fair we are certainly getting stuck in to them. First Cash then Mings.
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Pity it takes gifting a goal to see a reaction. I don’t feel like we’re going to score though.
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These are going down very easily whenever we make tackles.
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FFS. Had to be our best midfielder that gets injured, didn't it?
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FFS. Had to be our best midfielder that gets injured, didn't it?
What?
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Sorry, it looked like Ramsey was crocked. Turns out he's ok after all.
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So much better from Villa. Great to see those tackles going in all over the park. Need the next goal though.
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I'm watching live on TV and I haven't seen that!
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Sitter
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To be fair we are looking really good but have to score soon
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That was the chance.
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Could Gerrard be told not to flob while on the touchline? It annoys me. Every time they have a close up on him he's flobbing.
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Sitter
Hand would have been offside for VAR
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We’re not only leaky at the back, but we’re also incredibly profligate in front of goal.
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We’re playing much better.
Watkins is still poor.
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We’re not only leaky at the back, but we’re also incredibly profligate in front of goal.
Not a good combination is it?
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I constantly defined Watkins in the Ings vs Watkins debate and that miss from Ings is exactly my point.
If he is a goal poacher that should be a goal.
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I think buendia would have a right go at these
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Great aggression, and rally good atmosphere. Watkins is fucking shit though. Piss poor excuse for a footballer.
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Could Gerrard be told not to flob while on the touchline? It annoys me. Every time they have a close up on him he's flobbing.
I’ve not noticed this before, but you’re right, he’s always doing it
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Watkins come in man
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I constantly defined Watkins in the Ings vs Watkins debate and that miss from Ings is exactly my point.
If he is a goal poacher that should be a goal.
If Ings was my Auntie, he wouldn't have bollocks. But I get what you are saying.
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If only Watkins was good
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Good response - I think we look a bit narrow at times, but much commitment
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To be fair we are looking really good but have to score soon
Yeah, doing OK. Konsa's header was poor for the goal, but they had a couple of very lucky breaks after that. We have played some decent stuff, but it's breaking down too often with Ings and Watkins.
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Bye Ollie. Have fun at Bournemouth or somewhere equally crap.
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Apparently we have 60% possession.
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Personally I think we are the better team but we clearly still have faults. But these are a team challenging for top 4 and there is no way they are that much better than us
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Watkins come in man with a head like a 50 pence piece.
FTFY
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I know it’s all about opinions but some of the stuff said about Watkins is nonsense.
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Fuck off hinchecliffe
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Ings is an embarrassment.
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Another sitter missed
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Very poor from Danny Ings there. Jeez, should be 1-1.
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Fucking hell! Why can't we score?
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We needed to score during these last 10 minutes.we can't go on at that pace all match long..Come Villa..
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in the net, lads.
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Striker needed on aisle 2 please.
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ooh, Danny.
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Thing is it shouldn’t be ignored that we constantly load pressure on the forwards by conceding too many goals.
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Watkins is so sloppy at times, drives me mad.
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Watkins misses so many chances.
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A lot of our season has been like this. So much hard work without getting anywhere…
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Watkins misses so many chances.
I'd like him to be able to control a ball
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I really don't think Watkins has the technique needed for a top half team.
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I can't watch the second half as I'm invited for drinks and scoff. I'm a bit pissed off because I'm enjoying this, in spite of the score and our inability to find the net. I can get it on my phone so maybe I can wangle a surreptitious viewing.
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This is the best we’ve played in a long time, shame we are losing
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Time to get Archer back. He’d be on a brace by now.
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Time to get Archer back. He’d be on a brace by now.
Fuck me, yes, post of the day.
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If we had a striker on the pitch we'd be 4-1 up now.
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No doubt Conte will take action to nullify our midfield superiority in the second half.
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Another effort on target, no-one following up.
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No doubt Conte will take action to nullify our midfield superiority in the second half.
We don't say midfield superiority very often
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This is yet another game where we're showing signs of what we can be with a bit more composure and training as a unit. We're a nearly team that only needs minor improvements to be where we want to be.
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Their Goalie is like a brick wall.
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I really don't think Watkins has the technique needed for a top half team.
Agreed.
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Cash looks more dangerous in front of goal than the strikers today.
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Again, no-one in there to force it home.
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Their Goalie is like a brick wall.
He plays for a well-known international team that plays in blue and has won a few decent trophies, you know!
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How the fuck are we losing this
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Beglin needs shooting into the sun
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I've been dutifully slagging off Ings and Watkins all game in the hope that they will make me eat my words.
It's not working.
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Why can’t we play like the from the start?
It’s not a game of fucking chess.
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On the plus side...attacking moves are good?
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Much the better side but punished for one silly error, as per usual. I hope we can keep this tempo up second half and they don't get a spunky breakaway goal. We really need to be more deadly in front of goal. Some good chances created.
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We should have had 5.
If any other club has that shove on Ings , VAR give penalty.
One of front two need to come off. They’re both woefully out of form.
Buendia on for Watkins for me
But not after 75 mins please Steven
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One of our best halves this season against a good side
A top defensive midfielder and top striker and this will be a very good team .
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Beglin needs shooting into the sun
Tie Hinchcliffe to him first, pair of one-eyed pricks.
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I fucking hate losing to these ******. Would the lads mind beating them?
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Definitely playing a Conte team right now. Just put it in the net boys.
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Played better than I thought. I didn't expect many shots on target. Ings is doing my head in.
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Excellent performance so far. Three or four sitters missed unfortunately but front three definitely causing big problems. Luiz and Coutinho have been outstanding. Ings despite two shocking misses has been very good generally. Watkins first touch as bad as ever.
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Blimey. We are playing well. Just hope we can keep it going
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How the fuck are we losing this
Mad, innit. Battering them, yet came within a gnat's of going in 2 down.
Good to see us finally working out what to do if you've got Coutinho in your side; give the ball to Coutinho.
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The thing with Ings he gets in the right place but his boots are full of plasticine today . Get Watkins off for bendia second half
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Almost playing brilliantly. Whilst Ings' misses have been more embarrassing, Watkins is the weak link for me. Couldn't trap a ball with no air.
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Why is thickfuck Darren Bent calling JJ, Jamie Ramsey?
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played well. I wish sometimes we worked it so we had overlaps on the wings.
Being so narrow means we have to play very well to create chances - and the fact that neither of our strikers are able to play like premiership footaballers is a real shame
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This is yet another game where we're showing signs of what we can be with a bit more composure and training as a unit. We're a nearly team that only needs minor improvements to be where we want to be.
Badly need a reliable goal scorer. Like Gray, Little, Shaw, Withe etc.
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Well done Villa, keep it up and we can win this game.
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Time to get Archer back. He’d be on a brace by now.
Fuck me, yes, post of the day.
Absolutely. Shame there's no early release option.
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Missed their goal but Ive been impressed so far, apart from Ings’ misses. Loved the pressing and desire to win the ball back high up the pitch. It’s a travesty that we’re not at least drawing and should be winning.
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I hope Gerrard points out how shit the right centre back for them is (Romero?). Target him and he will give us chances and run the risk of a red, he's been lucky to avoid a booking so far.
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Soft goal aside, best performance of the season
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Crap header defensively, crap header attacking.
That's the difference.
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Shame we didn't score. Best half i 've seen for a while..
Come on lads..
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Listening on TalkRadio, Dean Ashton is a good analyst. Says we are out-numbering them in midfield and Romero gives away free-kicks all too easily.
Fucking annoying that Lloris seems to be dodgy in every game I see him (cf. against the Dingles recently) so of course he's kept his top form for today. He also looks like my former housemate. Hate him, hate them both.
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Very good performance so far, we look balanced with everybody knowing and is sticking to their position and responsibilities with the exception of our two so-called strikers.
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Frustrating that we haven't scored given we're unlikely to have that level of dominance again for a full half. Need to score when we're on top.
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Very good performance so far, we look balanced with everybody knowing and is sticking to their position and responsibilities with the exception of our two so-called strikers.
I think Digne has been poor, Emerson and Romero are defensively weak so I'd like more pressure down our left.
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Ffs
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If you ain't got a top finisher you get fucked eventually
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Fuck
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Crap
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Fuck off. FUCK OFF>
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How much are Arsenal offering for Konsa?
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At least we’ll keep our world class players in the transfer window.
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Looks like me need two new centre halves
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Worst times to score, beginning of both halves. Make a triple change, give some of the fringe players a chance to impress, the game is gone.
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I guess that’s the difference between too 6 and middle /bottom.
Two sniffs and they are winning 2-0
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They HAVE To sign a top centre half and top centre forward this summer, or we will always be second best. It's so so obvious.
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So wasteful villa. Fucking horrible season. Massive let down.
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Agonizing.
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I’m out.
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How much are Arsenal offering for Konsa?
I’d take £80m for both!
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We are terribly meek. No character or drive at all.
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Mings trying to block shot with his wrong side yet again costing us
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Four in a row it is. With Leicester away to come.
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Mings trying to block shot with his wrong side yet again costing us
What a load of crap.
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You can see why Gerrard is looking for a CB if the rumors are true to be fair chambers had been good .
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Poor from Konsa again, he's looked weak at times in the last few weeks, wasxtoo easy for Kane.
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Mings trying to block shot with his wrong side yet again costing us
This. He should block with his right
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Mcginn with his normal shit pass
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How much are Arsenal offering for Konsa?
I’d take £80m for both!
The man is powderpuff.
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Ah well, same old same old.
I'm off to do something less frustrating.
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McGinn!
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most of these players are not up to it.
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Bad mistake dropping Chambers
Well called.
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Very good performance so far, we look balanced with everybody knowing and is sticking to their position and responsibilities with the exception of our two so-called strikers.
I think Digne has been poor, Emerson and Romero are defensively weak so I'd like more pressure down our left.
Very good performance so far, we look balanced with everybody knowing and is sticking to their position and responsibilities with the exception of our two so-called strikers.
I think Digne has been poor, Emerson and Romero are defensively weak so I'd like more pressure down our left.
Very good performance so far, we look balanced with everybody knowing and is sticking to their position and responsibilities with the exception of our two so-called strikers.
I think Digne has been poor, Emerson and Romero are defensively weak so I'd like more pressure down our left.
So Digne has been poor, please tell me how he was at fault for either of the Spurs goals. Konsa and Cash defended them badly.
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We are terribly meek. No character or drive at all.
Seriously? We’ve been the better team but clearly our two centre halves are not cutting it
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We are void of adequate talent.
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We are terribly meek. No character or drive at all.
Huh??? That's so unfair - we've missed more chances in that first half than teams get in 3 games.
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Ok, I won't bother with the sneaky phone on the table. Wank.
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I’m dreading this now. Could be four.
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There's the thing. For all our pressure you would still bet on spurs for the next goal.
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We are void of adequate talent.
Huh??? That's so unfair - we've missed more chances in that first half than teams get in 3 games.
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We are void of adequate talent.
Huh??? That's so unfair - we've missed more chances in that first half than teams get in 3 games.
Exactly.
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Well at 2-0 it’s now time to make changes
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Ok, I won't bother with the sneaky phone on the table. Wank.
Good punctuation.
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Massive rebuild in the summer….again!
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2008 since we beat these at home
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Nobody to blame but ourselves. We've had enough chances to get ourselves in front, but bottled every one of them.
We've got what we deserve
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Teams don’t need to play well against us to win, so infuriating.
We’re more Spursy than Spurs FFS.
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Add a top CB with a top striker and top CM and we are a good team
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2008 since we eat these at home
It tasted great though.
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Close ings
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Very good performance so far, we look balanced with everybody knowing and is sticking to their position and responsibilities with the exception of our two so-called strikers.
I think Digne has been poor, Emerson and Romero are defensively weak so I'd like more pressure down our left.
Very good performance so far, we look balanced with everybody knowing and is sticking to their position and responsibilities with the exception of our two so-called strikers.
I think Digne has been poor, Emerson and Romero are defensively weak so I'd like more pressure down our left.
Very good performance so far, we look balanced with everybody knowing and is sticking to their position and responsibilities with the exception of our two so-called strikers.
I think Digne has been poor, Emerson and Romero are defensively weak so I'd like more pressure down our left.
So Digne has been poor, please tell me how he was at fault for either of the Spurs goals. Konsa and Cash defended them badly.
I mean you quoted me 3 times saying that he's not doing enough going forward to put pressure on their right side defenders.
Not surexwhat Cash is getting blamed for, both goals came from Konsa being poor under high balls.
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Add a top CB with a top striker and top CM and we are a good team
So nowhere near then ;)
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2008 since we eat these at home
It tasted great though.
:)
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We used to be considerably better than these.
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Add a top CB with a top striker and top CM and we are a good team
Couldn't you say that about most average teams?!
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This is just bizarre there is no way they are 2-0 better to than us
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Exactly how many goals have we scored with Ings and Watkins as a pair?
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OptaJoe
@OptaJoe
7 - Hugo Lloris made seven saves in the opening 45 minutes against Aston Villa; since Opta have this data available (from 2006-07), it's the most by a Tottenham goalkeeper in the first half of any Premier League match.
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Add a top CB with a top striker and top CM and we are a good team
Couldn't you say that about most average teams?!
Only three players not like a massive rebuild.
Id expect a CM and Watkins needs to go
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Danny Ings is Tony Cascarino with tattoos isn't he?
Pretty good in the air, quite a bit of effort but the overwhelming suspicion that he couldn't hit a barn door most of the time.
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Just tuning in. Watched the first half and we need to be so much more clinical. Our lack of a good finishing Centre Forward is costing us so dearly.
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This is just bizarre there is no way they are 2-0 better to than us
Mid-table teams make silly mistakes and get punished for them. All the endeavour in the world matters not a jot if you don't put your chances away and then make dumb errors at the back. Spurs have made fewer errors, which makes it all the more galling that we have in fact, beaten ourselves, again.
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Where's the defence.
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ahh fuck
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Fucking useless at the back
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If Arsenal are steeeeyooooopppiiiiid enough to offer 50m+ for Watkins we should absolutely sell him.
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Spurs are far more incisive - we have the ball and just plod around. What does McGinn have to do to not be selected? He needs a kick up the arse.
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Oh fucking fuck it
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I HATE Son.
Fuck off villa.
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No fucking changes
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Harry Kane is quality but my God, Konsa has been really, really poor today. Five yards off him for that header. Batter the ****** when you get the opportunity, not stand off him.
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Our level at the moment is utterly unacceptable.
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How is this any better than under Smith. Are we safe yet?
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Konsa giving Kane the easiest game if his life. Way too much respect. I'd sub him and make a point.
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Danny Ings is Tony Cascarino with tattoos isn't he?
Pretty good in the air, quite a bit of effort but the overwhelming suspicion that he couldn't hit a barn door most of the time.
Not at all. A deadly finisher usually.
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Danny Ings is Tony Cascarino with tattoos isn't he?
Pretty good in the air, quite a bit of effort but the overwhelming suspicion that he couldn't hit a barn door most of the time.
A lot of similarities. Scored plenty for his previous club and rubbish for us. Can't run fast. Can't hold the ball up. Etc
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Danny Ings is Tony Cascarino with tattoos isn't he?
Pretty good in the air, quite a bit of effort but the overwhelming suspicion that he couldn't hit a barn door most of the time.
Great analogy
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Ok, I won't bother with the sneaky phone on the table. Wank.
Good punctuation.
But surely it should’ve OK and not Ok?
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Can't argue with that. Good finish.
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Taxi to Liverpool for Mr G
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I’m embarrassed.. four on the bounce now?
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45 minute team.
Pathetic
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Embarrassing
Why no changes before now.
Most of the players have been wank but tactics just don’t work trying to play through there midfield which is just too congested
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Pathetic.
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We are so fucking naive. Pathetically naive
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Can't wait to hear him do his "really angry" routine in the post match interviews, like it's nothing to do with him.
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Villa have to work hard to fashion a chance, Spurs play 2 passes and they’re in on goal.
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Oh my god I just cannot watch anymore.
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The quality of key players is the difference between us and the top six/seven/eight -eg Mings and Watkins (fringe England players) should be squad players. Incredibly frustrating but we're a work in progress, as the cliche goes. A big summer ahead and fingers crossed we get our recruitment spot on.
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You can't miss easy fucking chances like we did in that first half, or give away gifts of goals like we did in the first few minutes of each half today and in the games prior on this run, and win games in this league.
Watkins. Go.
Konsa - I'm starting to wonder.
Ings - gone form goal machine everywhere else he's been to Emile Heskey 2014 vintage.
I would sell all of them.
There is nothing Gerrard can do about this until we have decent players in key positions, who don't continuously fuck up at critical points in games. He gets a free pass from me now until next season.
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Seen enough of this shambles, I’m off to the beach.
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Why wait till 70 minutes and 3-0 down to make a change ffs?
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What a night mare from the 4th minute
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Are we safe??
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Oh for fucking hells sake
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Embarrassing.
Another humiliating defeat.
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They can all just fuck off
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Wow. It's like watching the Keystone Cops. We don't track runners, we stand off, we don't concentrate. Again, none of them marking, not one.
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Off to watch Dads Army. Can’t watch this crap any longer.
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Fuck off.
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Are we safe??
Just about. Cannot wait for this season to end, absolutely shite from start to finish.
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BOOOOOOO
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What a night mare from the 4th minute
Bollocks. First half we were excellent. Second half is a shitshow mind.
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Lose. Change team. Lose. Revert to team that lost. Lose.
Appalling.
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Still 20 minute of this yet.. you’re digging a grave Steven.
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Off to watch Dads Army.
Be difficult to tell the difference, apart from the different coloured outfits tbf.
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Still a 45 minute team.
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being fucking shit in both penalty boxes is a recipe for disaster.
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Genuinely embarassing.
Week after week of absolute dog shit.
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Still a 45 minute team.
I'd settle for that at the moment - it was more like a 40 minute team
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Still a 45 minute team.
45 minutes every 5th match.
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Could have been a different story if we took our chances.
Said SG.
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Kane and Son make Ings and Watkins look like Laurel and Hardy.
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Gerrard will get his signings this summer but he had better hit the ground running with them because this is fucking rubbish.
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Last couple of goals have been embarrassing. Kane heads on a ball at the half way line! and Son scoots free unopposed to score. Konsa beaten on the sideline and another easy goal. 0-4 is incredibly harsh on the balance of clear chances created but our defensive shape is a shambles. Digne is absolutely useless too.
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Gerrard will get his signings this summer but he had better hit the ground running with them because this is fucking rubbish.
This.
No fucking excuses, this is laughably bad - humiliating.
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Can't wait to hear him do his "really angry" routine in the post match interviews, like it's nothing to do with him.
I also can’t for his “ we’ll make changes”
Then pick same starting 11
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Could have been a different story if we took our chances.
Said SG.
Yes. They have quality where it counts. We don’t
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Last couple of goals have been embarrassing. Kane heads on a ball at the half way line! and Son scoots free unopposed to score. Konsa beaten on the sideline and another easy goal. 0-4 is incredibly harsh on the balance of clear chances created but our defensive shape is a shambles. Digne is absolutely useless too.
I suspect it’s the end of Konsa and Mings
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Can't wait to hear him do his "really angry" routine in the post match interviews, like it's nothing to do with him.
I also can’t for his “ we’ll make changes”
Then pick same starting 11
This is the thing I just can't understand.
He'll talk harshly of the failure of players who make the same mistake over and over - and then pick them all again the next week.
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Can't wait to hear him do his "really angry" routine in the post match interviews, like it's nothing to do with him.
I also can’t for his “ we’ll make changes”
Then pick same starting 11
He doesn’t know what he is doing.
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Martinez, Coutinho, Ramsey, Cash, Digne - keep. The rest of them can go. Sack of shit, get as much money as we can for them and rebuild. It's the hope that kills you. Roll on the summer and get this shit sorted.
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Last couple of goals have been embarrassing. Kane heads on a ball at the half way line! and Son scoots free unopposed to score. Konsa beaten on the sideline and another easy goal. 0-4 is incredibly harsh on the balance of clear chances created but our defensive shape is a shambles. Digne is absolutely useless too.
I suspect it’s the end of Konsa and Mings
But they were a decent partnership last season. Laurel and Hardy under Gerrard. Konsa bullied by Kane today.
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Can't wait to hear him do his "really angry" routine in the post match interviews, like it's nothing to do with him.
I also can’t for his “ we’ll make changes”
Then pick same starting 11
This is the thing I just can't understand.
He'll talk harshly of the failure of players who make the same mistake over and over - and then pick them all again the next week.
Because he’s out his depth
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I think it was Risso who used the word ‘floundering’ to describe SGs performance.
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Thank god we’ve got Norwich at home.
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Embarrassing.
Another humiliating defeat.
Considering we could have been 4 or 5-1 up at half time I don't think so unless you're talking about our pathetic strikers.
Today we've suffered from a masterclass from Spurs' front three. Mings and Konsa just haven't been able to cope with Kulusevski, Kane and Son.
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Gerrard will get his signings this summer but he had better hit the ground running with them because this is fucking rubbish.
Think that’s the worry for me, we’ll spend big, be just as inconsistent, he’ll get the boot and we’ll do it again with someone else. There’s no coaching that can mitigate for Ings misses but it makes me wonder what they fucking do all week.
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Does Digne have any fight in him? More of a mouse than Targett in his first season with us before he became aggressive.
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If we cannot convert chances the the best we can hope for is 0-0. As it is we cannot convert or defend so that leaves on a hiding to nothing.
we had plenty of chances in the first half to put it beyond them. So frustrating to watch a team who can perform but not finish. Like a firework that combusts but just implodes on itself.
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Any chance we can get Archer back from loan?
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Young should be off for that
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Any chance we can get Archer back from loan?
No, unfortunately.
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Ashley young doing what Konsa should have done quite some time ago. Are you watching Konsa? Andy Hinchcliffe, fuck off you knob, you would have done exactly the same.
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Ashley Old getting booked within a couple of minutes of coming on the useless dick.
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Young. What a prat.
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Fuck off hinchcliffe . If it was man city you be saying he's took one for the team
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Embarrassing from Young.
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Young should be off for that
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He's a Twat,
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Oh good, I see Digne is injured. AGAIN. He must be made of twiglets.
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Embarrassing.
Another humiliating defeat.
Considering we could have been 4 or 5-1 up at half time I don't think so unless you're talking about our pathetic strikers.
Today we've suffered from a masterclass from Spurs' front three. Mings and Konsa just haven't been able to cope with Kulusevski, Kane and Son.
Think that’s some of the problem it’s shouldn’t be down to just them 2 need to defend as a team
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Young should be nowhere near our team, he offers fcuk-all.
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“With the Villa players looking tired, they fail to track Son's run and Kulusevski plays it back to Son, who grabs his third with his strike going in off the post.“
Tired at 70 mins. Jesus weeps.
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Young should be off for that
He should but I'm glad he did it.
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Embarrassing from Young.
This
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Embarrassing.
Another humiliating defeat.
Considering we could have been 4 or 5-1 up at half time I don't think so unless you're talking about our pathetic strikers.
Today we've suffered from a masterclass from Spurs' front three. Mings and Konsa just haven't been able to cope with Kulusevski, Kane and Son.
There's no excuse for a 0-4 scoreline surely? Our strikers have scored goals in their previous teams. One of them scored a load for us last season.
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It’s Saturday evening and the weekly dose of disappointment served up like a dish of week old dog sick is just kicking in. With special thanks to Aston Villa - yet again - for fucking up a perfectly decent weekend.
Why would Coutinho want to join us permanently? We’re horse wank.
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Oh good the Ole’s from the Spurs twats. Bring back Rotherham away.
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Poor miss from Bailey. Slipped as he hit it.
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Send Young on to get yellow card and prove how much he cares
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We beat these last season
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It would be an improvement if our players wore the correct studs for a start, slipping and sliding all over the place…..again.
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What the fcuk has happened to McGinn.
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Give Steveie 150m net spend and we'll be fine.
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It would be an improvement if our players wore the correct studs for a start, slipping and sliding all over the place…..again.
Agreed. And why water the fucking pitch?
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We’re going to finished 16th or 17th, aren’t we?
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I don’t think this covers it Chris,time & time again Mings has to deal with it.
He is no McGrath,granted,but you have to be better than that.
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Bloody awful. Lots of work to be done and I am not sure we have the right Manager to do it.
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It would be an improvement if our players wore the correct studs for a start, slipping and sliding all over the place…..again.
Agreed. And why water the fucking pitch?
Because it helps the ball zip around the turf at high speed which suits our style of play……....said no-one ever.
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Give Steveie 150m net spend and we'll be fine.
I wouldn’t give him money to go out and buy a newspaper.
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Embarrassing.
Another humiliating defeat.
Considering we could have been 4 or 5-1 up at half time I don't think so unless you're talking about our pathetic strikers.
Today we've suffered from a masterclass from Spurs' front three. Mings and Konsa just haven't been able to cope with Kulusevski, Kane and Son.
There's no excuse for a 0-4 scoreline surely? Our strikers have scored goals in their previous teams. One of them scored a load for us last season.
Our strikers are embarrassing, the scoreline is embarrassing but not the performance. We've played worse and won many a time. Spurs have been clinical in attack, we've been diabolical.
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Embarrassing.
Another humiliating defeat.
Considering we could have been 4 or 5-1 up at half time I don't think so unless you're talking about our pathetic strikers.
Today we've suffered from a masterclass from Spurs' front three. Mings and Konsa just haven't been able to cope with Kulusevski, Kane and Son.
There's no excuse for a 0-4 scoreline surely? Our strikers have scored goals in their previous teams. One of them scored a load for us last season.
Our strikers are embarrassing, the scoreline is embarrassing but not the performance. We've played worse and won many a time. Spurs have been clinical in attack, we've been diabolical.
The opportunities we’ve missed and the errors we’ve made in defense today leading to goals has been pretty humiliating. It’s not like Spurs scored from a build up or anything.
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Currently, Steven Gerrard's impersonation of Tim Sherwood is excellent.
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Just awful.
A few good spells here and there aside, we've been very poor this season.
Both Smith and Gerrard seem to find it very difficult to dig us out of losing runs. I wasn't a massive fan of Smith, and have never liked Gerrard, but my main gripe is with the players.
Lethargic, inept, slow, weak, timid, bland. Pretty much all of them. Some of them are an utter embarrassment to the club. ******.
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Every shot they scored.
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Currently, Steven Gerrard's impersonation of Tim Sherwood is excellent.
But without the cup final