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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Bad English on September 11, 2021, 04:42:59 PM
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Going for the jugular!
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Really interested to see how we line up when attacking and of course (and maybe more relevant today) when defending.
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5-3-2?
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Thanks for staring the thread BE - Is that going for the jugular or juggler?
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I’m trying to work out where the creativity is coming from…
There is a lot of creativity on the bench though. Disappointed Bailey isn’t starting, but hopefully will be on around 50-60 mins.
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Thanks for staring the thread BE - Is that going for the jugular or juggler?
Chelsea will be going for a jog.
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I thought Thiago couldn’t play?
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4 1 3 2?
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I'm going to hyperbolise in the hope of looking like a twat after we win. Playing with five at the back when you have two of the best strikers in the league on the pitch, and leaving your two most creative players on the bench is gutless and invites a hammering. As somebody else said on the pre-match thread, Bruce out!
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I thought Thiago couldn’t play?
They can all play
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Their team has eleven players Silva etc.
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5-3-2?
Either that or Tuanzebe next to Luiz in a 4-2-3-1. Either way, urgh.
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3-5-2. Knew it.
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3 at the back...some on here will lose their minds...Makes sense to try it today and match up with Chelsea.
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Sanson and Bailey on bench. Archer too. They'll shit up Chelsea on 65 minutes.
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Ollie looks like hes had a few Balti pies on that pic . .
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Disappointing not to see Bailey. But come on Villa.
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I've just noticed Traoré on the bench too.
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we’ll have a lot of creativity and attacking options to bring on when we’re three nil down
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So negative. Thought them days of not trying to lose by too many had gone.
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Barkley's on the bench for them. He's going to come on, have his one good game a year and score a worldie.
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Quite like the look of that if Axel is going to sit in front of the back 4. If it’s a back 5 I would worry
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So negative. Thought them days of not trying to lose by too many had gone.
Don't see the issue, a few teams have switched to 5-3-2 v Chelsea since Tuchel came in and indeed Lampard played it a bit aswell.
Now question is how well we look trained in it given we haven't had all the players in during the week so that could be issue but this is simply one of the toughest games we'll play all season regardless of formation.
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Chelsea’s bench is just stupid
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Man, loving the positive vibes on here today!! It's one of the things that gives me the biggest rush on match day, you know, popping on here and seeing all the excitemant and anticipation from you guys!! Remember what it was like 5 years ago when we were struggling to score in The Championship?? EEEKKKK! Thank goodness those days are long gone and we can all enjoy match day now, huh??
Good luck, boys! Everyone on H+V appears to have faith in you!!!
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It isn't in any way three at the back. We have five defenders on the pitch, like when we lost eight-nil. Fucking garbage.
If McLeish did this he'd be getting torrents of abuse and quite rightly.
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It’s nice for us to have decent bench.
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Bailey not starting is due to fitness, will almost certainly get some game time, including today 4 out of next 5 games are away, trying to be optimistic, can only see 2 wins maximum.
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Chelsea’s bench is just stupid
Is it one of those fancy avant-garde numbers?
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The Doors were very successful without a real bass player, maybe Dean thinks we can be successful without a real midfield.
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I’m trying to work out where the creativity is coming from…
There is a lot of creativity on the bench though. Disappointed Bailey isn’t starting, but hopefully will be on around 50-60 mins.
We all know it'll be after 80 minutes when we're two nil down.
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Is there not a mod around who can sticky this?
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Chelsea have taken a chance with that 11. We should be going after them. Two up top though, so still a chance.
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The Doors were like five-at-the-back football teams: shite.
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Chelsea have taken a chance with that 11. We should be going after them. Two up top though, so still a chance.
True
If Chelsea have an off day and don’t continuously pin us back
and we can find a way of getting the ball to the two up top
You never know
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The Doors were like five-at-the-back football teams: shite.
We are going to have ride the storm.
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The Doors were like five-at-the-back football teams: shite.
Harsh but true. As for the Villa today, well, it's a risk changing a system with barely a couple of days prep. Hope Dean knows what he's doing... Soon find out!
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The Doors were like five-at-the-back football teams: shite.
We are going to have ride the storm.
The Lizard Mings.
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we've got two forwards on the pitch who have both proven they only need one chance to score - if we defend well then we're in with a shot
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FIVE F*****G Defenders? what on earth is going on .
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I now support five at the back.
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Is there not a mod around who can sticky this?
Sticked it for you.
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I hope this line up is a one off. Last season Deano got points from the top teams with more attacking line ups.
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It isn't in any way three at the back. We have five defenders on the pitch, like when we lost eight-nil. Fucking garbage.
If McLeish did this he'd be getting torrents of abuse and quite rightly.
I knew you'd love this!!
I'd hope that on 55-60, we see both Traore and Bailey come on; hopefully when it's still a competitive game. may also get to see the proper start of Sanson's Villa career.
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FIVE F*****G Defenders? what on earth is going on .
It’s a disgrace. Email the club.
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Thanks Lizz.
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I like the line up personally, so long as Cash and Targett get forward. Watkins and Ings up top.
Come on Villa !
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Lets face it - what ever selection any manager we ever have makes people on here will slag it off. I know we all have an opinion and thats fine but is there any chance we could try and see the odd positive?
The negativity on here is over the top sometimes.
Come on me babbies !!
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Looking forward to the days when there are no matches where we expect, with a high degree of certainty to lose. Hopefully we don’t have to wait too long.
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FIVE F*****G Defenders? what on earth is going on .
won our last major trophy playing that system
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I like the line up personally, so long as Cash and Targett get forward. Watkins and Ings up top.
Come on Villa !
yep the wing backs need to push on
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It’s fine if the wing backs get out, but if they get pinned back then Chelsea will sit on top of defense.
It could be ugly.
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I like the line up personally, so long as Cash and Targett get forward. Watkins and Ings up top.
Come on Villa !
yep the wing backs need to push on
Will be tough. Alonso bombs on down their left like no tomorrow so can see Cash being pinged back so hopefully Axel can help him out.
Interesting who Chelsea play on the other side, assumed Hudson Odoi but think Calobah played right back for them in first game so we'll see.
Certainly far from the strongest 11 Chelsea could put out. Just seen Barkley on their bench, thought he'd been cut from their squad.
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What minute In the first half will Dougie get his first yellow
I’m going for 26
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The front two will be very important off the ball as well as on if we're getting anything today.
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I'm mildly optimistic.
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To create for Ings and Ollie, we need big games from Cash and Targett
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Not happy with that team selection. Hoping Smith proves me wrong though.
Positives are seeing Watkins and Ings together, and assume McGinn and Ramsey will play further forwards which will suit them.
Bailey and Traore on the bench could be a strong pair to brong on second half.
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Jed Steer's staring is going to play a massive role here.
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With the 5-3-2, I just need a bottle of Hooch of a can of Two Dogs and I can party like it’s 1996.
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RWith the 5-3-2, I just need a bottle of Hooch of a can of Two Dogs and I can party like it’s 1996.
Fosters Ice for me.. and a bottle of 20/20 in the cupboard of we win!
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RWith the 5-3-2, I just need a bottle of Hooch of a can of Two Dogs and I can party like it’s 1996.
Fosters Ice for me.. and a bottle of 20/20 in the cupboard of we win!
Like your style.
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With all the disruption and a lack of creativity. Chelsea 3-0. Lukaku to get his first goals at SB
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Think we are going to have problems creating anything. I think Ollie will come in deep when we see this. A big call to start Ramsey.
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That fucking diagonal ball kick off, I hate it more than death itself.
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Chasing shadows already
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Not too bad so far.
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I now support five at the back.
Haha
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Corner for us. Come on!
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Long 83 minutes now for Ramsey.
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Good start, c’mon boys!
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Lovely cross in sjm
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Jaysus fuck.
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Ramsay you fucking idiot! Stupid card.
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How on earth has that stayed out!
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Shit ball Ings!!!
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Ramsey you fucking idiot.
Haha! Great minds..'
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Silly from Ramsey. Don't think we'll be seeing him second half (subbed hopefully).
Decent start from us anyway.
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Good work Cash!
I like what we're doing so far.
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Oh Danny Boy
The pass, the pass was minging.
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We're looking good on the offense
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Alonso did this at Villa Park. Went down like he'd been shot every 5 minutes
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Konsa did amazingly not to turn that into his own net.
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Awful defending on the corner though.
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Ramsey bad booking so early
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Just seen the replay of their last corner. We have the arse lined with noodles.
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Just seen the replay of their last corner. We have the arse lined with noodles.
Not quite sure what you mean but I agree :)
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Rudiger is a dirty git too, always leaves a foot or elbow in the opposition
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Ings nooooooo ffs
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There's something 70s American Aor about Aloso.Bread or Chicago vibes.
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Bugger.
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FFS!!
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Cash has been caught out of position twice from similar free kicks. Lukaku, had to happen.
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Brilliant goal. Kovacic and Lukaku have both done incredibly there. World class.
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No midfield
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Bollocks.
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Balls
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Stupid from Axel
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Lukaku is quite good. Bastard.
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5 fucking defenders and no one near him
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Bollocks.
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What a load of fucking wank. 5 at the back and you concede a goal like that. Truly pathetic.
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Steer has to get to him faster. Tuanzebe gets sold waybtoo easy.
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Quick, Villa... get another defender on!
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Brilliant goal. Kovacic and Lukaku have both done incredibly there. World class.
except tunzabee turned like a pub player
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The instant they beat our press it looked inevitable.
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This is going to be a very long Evening. Absolutely ridiculous starting line up and this could be expected. we have no f*****g midfield.
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Fucking shit from Tuanzebe.
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Woeful defending from Axel.
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No midfield
No centre halves either.
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Not surprising we look scarred stiff defensively
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Where was Konsa?
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Just seen the replay of their last corner. We have the arse lined with noodles.
Not quite sure what you mean but I agree :)
It's a literal translation of a French expression which means 'jammy get'.
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Those blaming the system...you know we're playing against a 3 centrebacks formation, right? Like, you can count and stuff?
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Bastard keeper. Great move.
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This is going to be a very long Evening. Absolutely ridiculous starting line up and this could be expected. we have no f*****g midfield.
Wasn't your game last night?
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Really poor from Axel there. Beaten way too easily.
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Bollocks.
Could be a long night.
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Those blaming the system...you know we're playing against a 3 centrebacks formation, right? Like, you can count and stuff?
Yes, same as they played at Villa Park when we beat them, with a proper formation.
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If you’re going to completely fuck about with your formation, you don’t want to be doing it at fucking Chelsea, and you want someone slightly better acquainted with tactics than Dean fucking Smith.
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Where the fuck was the midfield and why was the defence all over the shop?! Their player literally had the whole of the middle of the pitch to run in to with no Villa players anywhere near him.
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Tuanzebe was an odd signing anyway. For the loan fee we paid we could've bought and burtured one of our own. Acquired by the strength of his championship season and looking every inch a championship player.
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We're making chances, at least.
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Those blaming the system...you know we're playing against a 3 centrebacks formation, right? Like, you can count and stuff?
Yes, same as they played at Villa Park when we beat them, with a proper formation.
When you have world class players in every position and a world class manager, formations are less important.
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This is going to be a very long Evening. Absolutely ridiculous starting line up and this could be expected. we have no f*****g midfield.
Wasn't your game last night?
not in the mood for stupid jokes.
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This is going to be a very long Evening. Absolutely ridiculous starting line up and this could be expected. we have no f*****g midfield.
Wasn't your game last night?
not in the mood for stupid jokes.
It's a evening game Wednesday against Fulham.
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McGinn has been quality.
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Those blaming the system...you know we're playing against a 3 centrebacks formation, right? Like, you can count and stuff?
Yes, same as they played at Villa Park when we beat them, with a proper formation.
Before they went off to win the Champions League. With a non-proper formation.
I mean as a gag it's got stale, but are we seriously pretending that this is our biggest problem today? We irrationally hate this formation and that's that?
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The foolish mistake of smith not getting a Dm in is showing today
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Back to terrible corners.
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Those blaming the system...you know we're playing against a 3 centrebacks formation, right? Like, you can count and stuff?
Yes, same as they played at Villa Park when we beat them, with a proper formation.
When you have world class players in every position and a world class manager, formations are less important.
It's true. I've heard people defending five at the back before on the basis that Guardiola sometimes plays it. Because obviously the formation is the secret of their success, not the fact that every player in the squad cost a trillion quid.
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I fear for us when they push forward but these aren't bomb-proof at the back and we've already opened them up twice.
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Some good play b JJ
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One nil down defence looking shaky
But as daft as it sounds still playing better than I thought we would
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Why is my legitimate Now TV Sky service 30 seconds behind my completely non-legit hooky stream?
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I think we're worrying them
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Ramsey picking up some nice positions when we pass quickly.
Would try to get Bailey on while this match remains in the balance, him and Ollie would be interesting front two for their defence.
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How did Ollie not score then?
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I know we are losing but I’ve been quite impressed by the three in midfield.
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Thiago Silva, who shouldn't have been allowed to play, denies us an equaliser. Great.
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Fucking Silva shouldn't be playing
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I think we look ok.
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I know we are losing but I’ve been quite impressed by the three in midfield.
Booking aside, I think Ramsey is looking good.
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How the fuck did we not score there?
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One nil down defence looking shaky
But as daft as it sounds still playing better than I thought we would
I agree, defence look like they will concede on every attack however. For me there are too many untried areas in this team that will need time to develop. I think we have to be realistic and be happy with lower mid table?
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Should be 1-1.
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We’re worrying them. Yes, they’ve scored. But there’s more goals in this…
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Ollie ffs!!!
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Thought Ollie should have hit it first time when he was played in.
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We look good going forward but dodgy at the back.
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Why is my legitimate Now TV Sky service 30 seconds behind my completely non-legit hooky stream?
Mines two and a half minutes behind on now tv. Wonderful isn't it?
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Not sure Watkins is match sharp.
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Massively wasting our opportunity to get back in the game.
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Why is my legitimate Now TV Sky service 30 seconds behind my completely non-legit hooky stream?
Mines two and a half minutes behind on now tv. Wonderful isn't it?
Bloody dreadful, I've swapped to the naughty stream now.
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Axel shitshow aside, Chelsea look like the side who don't normally play 3-5-2
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Some cracking football by us
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SJM is the heartbeat of that midfield. He’s been superb. We’re doing alright.
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Should be 1-1.
Oli lacking sharpness, probably to be expected.
Looking at the replay, first time hit would've been 1-1.
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I know we are losing but I’ve been quite impressed by the three in midfield.
Booking aside, I think Ramsey is looking good.
Agree.
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Axel shitshow aside, Chelsea look like the side who don't normally play 3-5-2
Might be because they play 3-4-3 ;-).
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Showing some good signs here
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Not sure Watkins is match sharp.
He always needs two touches.
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Douglas Tonev!
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We look good going forward but we have to take one of these chances.
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Oh good, Mings on a yellow as well now.
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As good as I’ve seen us play for a while. We may not win but this is all very promising
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You can not spurn chances like this at this level, watch when Chelsea next get a chance
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How the hell is that a fucking yellow?
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We're playing some good football, I'm pretty happy with what I've seen tbh.
Ultimately no matter what we've spent they've just dropped nearly 100m on one of the best forwards around in world football so that's the difference I'm afraid.
Mings booked, great. This ref is going to send one of ours off isn't he before too long.
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The amount of shots Watkins scuffs and doesn't strike cleanly!
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Oh ace Mings booked.
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This is some of our best football of the season so far. A basic error aside, we've arguably been the better team against one of the Premier League annual procession teams.
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Axel shitshow aside, Chelsea look like the side who don't normally play 3-5-2
They're not, they're playing 5-4-1 (or 3-6-1 if you prefer). We are doing okay apart from the goal, but "apart from the goal" is a fairly massive caveat. If having three centre-halves isn't enough to stop Lukaku scoring that, what's the point in wasting a place on a centre-half that could be used on a player who might help us get a goal?
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Better team for me so far, love the tenacity of the midfielders, particularly McGinn.
Undone by world class midfielder playing it through and class finish.
No disrespect to Watkins who is causing them problems but if Lukaku has his two chances he’d put them away, that’s what £90 odd millions gets you.
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Lovely from McGinn then.
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Better maul Saul.
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Ref turning all big 6
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Better team for me so far, love the tenacity of the midfielders, particularly McGinn.
Undone by world class midfielder playing it through and class finish.
No disrespect to Watkins who is causing them problems but if Lukaku has his two chances he’d put them away, that’s what £90 odd millions gets you.
Maybe a Watkins that hadn't been missing for a few weeks with injury would have put that away, too.
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Refs piss poor. Mcginn is a totally different player when given more freedom.
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Absolute garbage from Stuart Attwell. Looking after the SKY favourites as per.
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Is Attwell scared of upsetting Putin? Joke decisions again.
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Can we maybe get a ref who isn't a cheating c*** for one game this season, any time soon?
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This ref is definitely a Chelsea chav. Fucking biased that was a blatant foul on konsa
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Some cracking football by us
There is. But I can't help feeling a lot of Chelsea commentary this season is going to feature people saying, 'and Lukaka scores on the break'.
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Can we maybe get a ref who isn't a cheating c*** for one game this season, any time soon?
Probably not.
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Fuck off Mendy!
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How the fcuk did Mandy keep that out?
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Can't we ever get a goalkeeper having a stinker against us?
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Roasting them
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We have to be more ruthless, its so fucking obvious we will rue these misses.
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The amount of shots Watkins scuffs and doesn't strike cleanly!
No change from last season. Works hard, but generally a woeful finisher
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Better side so far.
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What’s really frustrating is Silva is having a great game yet fifa crumbled to the big 6
What save!!
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Should be at least level.
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Guarantee Mendy chucks one in when they play Man U.
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We should be ahead. Looking really good at times.
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Fuck me we should have equalised there.
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Some of the worst commentating axel is better not getting a battle with Lukaku. Why not you idiot he is a defender.
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If Mings was a booking, so should that be.
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Book him ref.
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I think we've been the better team, should be comfortably level. Formation looks to be working well, but not sure if Ings has touched the ball yet.
And this shitstain of a ref is definitely going to send one of our players off.
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Really impressive performance to be fair. Thought we was just going to go for the draw i was wrong. Come on villa
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No booking for silva??? Fucking joke
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Chelsea going to take Niguez off, been our best passer today.
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Lovely work from sjm terrible freekick
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I think we've been the better team, should be comfortably level. Formation looks to be working well, but not sure if Ings has touched the ball yet.
And this shitstain of a ref is definitely going to send one of our players off.
All of our forwards look like they need 5 chances before scoring :(
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No booking for silva??? Fucking joke
He's scum six, mate. Never going to happen. Even the Villa boys are talking to Attwell about it.
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Abysmal ref. Bordering on corrupt.
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Tuchel is a massive ****** isn't he.
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McGinn is nearly good.
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Ffs mcginn again !! What’s waste
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The McGinn random pass generator fully in operation.
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Ramsey looking really good.
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Beautiful
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Ramsey looks excellent today.
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How many f******g chances do we need? put the ball in the blooming net!
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Commentators saying Chelsea are struggling due to disruption, internationals etc.
Good we don’t have that problem.
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It’s great to see us making chances.
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How many f******g chances do we need? put the ball in the blooming net!
Playing well though eh?
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The McGinn random pass generator fully in operation.
Is that one of those things that makes your hair stand on end?
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I think we should have two match threads. One normal and another for those watching about two minutes behind.
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With Bailey on in the 2nd half, we win this
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The McGinn random pass generator fully in operation.
Is that one of those things that makes your hair stand on end?
Couldn't tell you, I look like Stephen Ireland these days!
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No booking again.
Corrupt.
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Think there's some really good potential with this formation, we've looked really fluid when we strung some passes.
Buendia and Bailey can fit into this set up aswell.
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How many f******g chances do we need? put the ball in the blooming net!
Playing well though eh?
if we had this level of performance against Watford and Brentford we might have won.
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Chelsea player could do a Cantona on one of ours and wouldn't get booked.
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We would have won.
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Don't know how bbc have us as 40% possession
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Commentators saying Chelsea are struggling due to disruption, internationals etc.
Good we don’t have that problem.
Leicester have won the Prem and finished 5th in consecutive seasons, yet they still can't break into Sky's 'Official' top 6.
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How many f******g chances do we need? put the ball in the blooming net!
Playing well though eh?
if we had this level of performance against Watford and Brentford we might have won.
Which has got fuck all to do with how we’re playing now.
We’re taking it to the European champions, but you’re still fucking whining.
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Been the better side easily. Axel's pub team defending cost us big time. I'd expect Tuchel to change things at HT unfortunately because they're struggling. Probably too many changes.
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The McGinn random pass generator fully in operation.
Random pass generator- Brilliant! Quote of the week.
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Ings has been poor , maybe get Bailey on in the 2nd half
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Mcginn Ramsey Luiz all having good games
That’s why we’re controlling the midfield
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Don't know how bbc have us as 40% possession
They’re obviously watching a different game
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Absolutely bossed this so far.
Villa v Mendy
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A good half from us. Easily the best we've looked this season. Cannot miss that many chances against a team like this though.
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Not having much luck. Still, we've played pretty well really. Not many will take the game to Chelsea like we have on their own pitch.
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Looking good. Should be at least level given the chances we’ve created and missed. Clinical finishing is the difference between both sides at the moment.
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I’d take Axel and Ings off, go 4-3-3. Ollie up front, Bailey out wide.
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I think we should have two match threads. One normal and another for those watching about two minutes behind.
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10 shots 4 on target. Good stuff Villa boys keep going.
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Been the better side easily. Axel's pub team defending cost us big time. I'd expect Tuchel to change things at HT unfortunately because they're struggling. Probably too many changes.
Yeah can see them bringing Werner on perhaps and dropping Havertz back into midfield. Saul Niguez had an awful debut for them.
Playing wider shows what a good technical player Ollie is sometimes, ball glued to his foot at times this half and unlucky not to score.
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Not at all shabby. No long ball pinging in evidence. drive and enterprise from the midfield. With a few more minutes in Olly's legs we'd be level or better. Come on boys.
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I’d take Axel and Ings off, go 4-3-3. Ollie up front, Bailey out wide.
This, for me.
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Ings has been. Crap really crap. 30m I want to see more
Watkins finishing abit rusty. But pleased with the performance. Chelsea won’t be that poor second half
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I think we should have two match threads. One normal and another for those watching about two minutes behind.
I see what you did there
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Good first half, the chances not taken will probably cost us unfortunately. Their keeper has been their best player.
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I think we should have two match threads. One normal and another for those watching about two minutes behind.
See what you did there😂
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Playing well but, as you’d expect from European champions, their defence is exceptional.
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We deserve to be at least level. Playing well.
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I’d take Axel and Ings off, go 4-3-3. Ollie up front, Bailey out wide.
Change the formation that's been working so well?? Excellent idea!
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Ramsey - great. Fear we’ve missed our chance now though.
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We've played superbly that half. Absolutely brilliant. Whatever the result at full time today, we're on here....
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I'll be amazed if they don't take Saul off, he looks like he's struggling to adapt atm.
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Special mention for young Ramsey. He has been excellent.
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Brilliant half. Can’t fault them.
Unfortunately for us, Lukaku is quite good ...
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Thought we looked really good, unfortunate to be behind really. Formation is allowing us to control the territory, felt like we spent most of the half in the final third, was a bit surprised by the possession stats. Ref has been inconsistent, glad to see Mings and others pointing this out. Ramsey having a very good game, he's a proper player. Keep it up Villa, then punish them with our attacking subs.
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I think we should have two match threads. One normal and another for those watching about two minutes behind.
👏👏
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Bailey needs to come on this match it set up for him to shine. Danny Ings has been absolutely terrible
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Been the better team and should be winning. Great half but expect Tuchel to make some tweaks at HT. I bet Ings is begging for one of the chances Watkins has had. Really enjoyable watch.
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Genuinely the better side, Ramsey making Saul look like a little noob in midfield, Watkins a menace (though Ings is a bit absent), and the system matchup favours us, we're crowding them out in midfield and looking dangerous. Only problem is the fecking score.
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Bailey needs to come on this match it set up for him to shine. Danny Ings has been absolutely terrible
Sad, sad troll.
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This is completely unreasonable, but Alonso’s running style infuriates me.
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Have to say that this is the best I’ve seen us play for a long, long time. There’s passion and desire and really unlucky to be a goal down. Keep playing like this in the second half and we could get something out of this match which I didn’t expect. Same performance next week will have Villa Park rocking.
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Tuanzebe literally didn’t do a thing right for their goal. Shite.
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Very positive first half display even though we are losing
Problem we’ve got now is that too Tuchel is a master tactician And he could make changes to win the game from here
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Konsa has questions to answer for that goal. In no man's land and no drive to recover the position.
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Played well. The midfield 3 has been really impressive, especially Ramsey. The only thing is I get the impression that we still don't *believe* we can score when we get chances. Lukaku, when he got the ball for their goal, didn't just believe, he *knew* he was going to score.
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Bailey needs to come on this match it set up for him to shine. Danny Ings has been absolutely terrible
Sad, sad troll.
Bore off
I'll defend my right to an opinion on the players, others have said he has been shit and I agree
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Apart from the score it's the best I've seen us play in a long time. With better strikers we'd be in front.
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Playing really well. Despite that it’s still difficult to get anything from a game like this but if we play like this against the lesser teams we’ll pick up loads of wins and points. Unfortunately we know how that usually goes…
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Created far more than I expected but I suspect we’ll rue the missed chances.
Chelsea will change into third gear in the second half.
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I’d take Axel and Ings off, go 4-3-3. Ollie up front, Bailey out wide.
Change the formation that's been working so well?? Excellent idea!
I'd be tempted to drop Bailey alongside Ollie and see what happens.
Agree Ings is limited in this formation. He can press o.k but it is a bit Bent ish in that he's not the type of striker who'll always be in the game if crosses aren't coming in. Ollie is so that's the difference.
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Bailey needs to come on this match it set up for him to shine. Danny Ings has been absolutely terrible
Sad, sad troll.
Bore off
I'll defend my right to an opinion on the players, others have said he has been shit and I agree
Bore off, from you? Ha!
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Really like Ramsey. Would be keen to see him start to get decent shots off too.
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I’d take Axel and Ings off, go 4-3-3. Ollie up front, Bailey out wide.
Change the formation that's been working so well?? Excellent idea!
Did the formation work really well for their goal? What would we have lost if Tuanzebe hadn't been playing and, say, Bailey had been in the team instead?
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Playing well here. Was a bit worried about 3 at the back, but one long ball aside I think we've played well.
Watkins should score and Ramsey is doing well with the freedom he's got.
Referee only wants our autograph though. I will credit Chelsea for having better 4g and these rail thingies to lean on when you're watching the game.
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I’d take Axel and Ings off, go 4-3-3. Ollie up front, Bailey out wide.
Formation is working really well though ......plus you've only brought one sub on ....
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Played well. The midfield 3 has been really impressive, especially Ramsey. The only thing is I get the impression that we still don't *believe* we can score when we get chances. Lukaku, when he got the ball for their goal, didn't just believe, he *knew* he was going to score.
Very much this.
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Very positive first half display even though we are losing
Problem we’ve got now is that too Tuchel is a master tactician And he could make changes to win the game from here
We have options aswell. El Ghazi, Bailey and Traore all there.
This is what DS didn't have for most of last season.
Important we see two of them on the pitch when it's 1-0 rather than 2 or 3-0.
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Just wish that chance that fell to Watkins had gone to Ings
it would be 1-1 now
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Is there anything more pathetic then offering each other out for fights on an Internet message board!
Tbf I don't think Ings has been very good, can't get involved.
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Very positive first half display even though we are losing
Problem we’ve got now is that too Tuchel is a master tactician And he could make changes to win the game from here
We have options aswell. El Ghazi, Bailey and Traore all there.
This is what DS didn't have for most of last season.
Important we see two of them on the pitch when it's 1-0 rather than 2 or 3-0.
That’s true we have
Second-half will be decided on who Gets it right tactically
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Maybe its my claret and blue glasses but apart from the goal I think we've been the better side
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I’d take Axel and Ings off, go 4-3-3. Ollie up front, Bailey out wide.
Change the formation that's been working so well?? Excellent idea!
Did the formation work really well for their goal? What would we have lost if Tuanzebe hadn't been playing and, say, Bailey had been in the team instead?
Well we had a back 4 at Watford and of course were 3-0 down by the hour with some comedy defending.
With what our squad is looking like now I honestly think based on this 45 minutes it's going to suit this squad more than others although DS can obviously tweak and play 4-3-3 in other games but I like it v the top 6 otherwise we get too exposed in central midfield.
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I’d take Axel and Ings off, go 4-3-3. Ollie up front, Bailey out wide.
Change the formation that's been working so well?? Excellent idea!
Did the formation work really well for their goal? What would we have lost if Tuanzebe hadn't been playing and, say, Bailey had been in the team instead?
For 43 1/2 minutes we created more chances and controlled their midfield. A 4-3-3 will just allow Havertz and Ziyech more freedom to drop into the spaces between Luiz/Cash and Ramsey/Targett and invite more pressure on to the two centre backs. The defending for the goal was poor all around, Konsa should have been in position, Axel should have stayed on his feet and Steer should have put pressure on the ball. 3 individual errors that had nothing to do with the shape.
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We really should have taken advantage of Saul's shocking debut though.
No way is he starting the second half.
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Is there anything more pathetic then offering each other out for fights on an Internet message board!
Who's doing that?
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We really should have taken advantage of Saul's shocking debut though.
No way is he starting the second half.
Lottery numbers, please.
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Will the ref grow a pair and actually book a Chelsea player second half.
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Fuck it. If we are still in it after ten minutes, go 433
axel and Ings off, Bailey and Traore on.
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I'd be tempted to leave Ings on, get Bailey and Watkins playing wide. Bailey on for Ax-T.
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I’d take Axel and Ings off, go 4-3-3. Ollie up front, Bailey out wide.
Formation is working really well though ......plus you've only brought one sub on ....
Agree about the formation (sorry, cd). Bailey for Ings feels like it might pay dividends.
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No messing from Tuchel as usual, Saul off Jorginho on for them.
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We are gonna score here.
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Is there anything more pathetic then offering each other out for fights on an Internet message board!
Who's doing that?
Someone further up, "meet and say it my face" type stuff.
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Just wish that chance that fell to Watkins had gone to Ings
it would be 1-1 now
Indeed. Said earlier, Ollie always needs two touches. That said he's brilliant at running the channels. Great team focus and performance especially since Chelsea scored.
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Or maybe not.
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I don't actually remember any of Lukaku's previous goals against us. That counselling I had to remove the 2010s from my memory seems to be working.
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Oh you've got to to be cocking fucking joking.
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FFS
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Fucking travesty.
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Wankers
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And there is the Mings fuck up
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Mings!!!! Shocking, just awful.
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Nice one Mings
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What an absolute gift.
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That's not formation, that's just shit.
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For fuck's sake Mings!
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Oh for god's sake.
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Biggest injustice since OJ walked free.
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Oh Mings
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Tyrone, how many fucking times man?
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And there you go.
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Mings is not as good as he thinks he is
Or we think he is
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Well done Tyrone you clown
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Mings gonna Mings. He is fucking shit.
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I've heard the Chelsea fans for the first time.
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Shit the fuck off.
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What is the fucking point ?
Anyway glad Tyrone had a nice break with the National team and came back focused
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Unfortunately, however well he plays he has that in him!
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Mings is not as good as he thinks he is
Or we think he is
I don't think he's very good at all to be honest.
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Very very frustrating.
Game over now.
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Mings for England!!
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Mings is a fucking liability
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We're not very good unfortunately
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At least we might get to see a bit of Bailey.
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All that good play, all that hard work and we gift them a second. And the momentum shifts with it.
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The obligatory Mings fuck up rears it’s ugly head again.
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Extra defenders seems to equal extra players to fuck up.
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Five at the fucking back and two of the central three come on wearing clown shoes.
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Mings always has something to say on social media, but yet again can't even do basic defending properly.
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Get a cb in. I’m sick of mings making these mistakes 4-5 times a season
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I thought that that was more Axel's fault. Mings had little chance.
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Five at the fucking back and two of the central three come on wearing clown shoes.
Exactly my thinking
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Bailey gone to warm up so we'll be seeing him soon.
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all that hard work in the first half thrown away by a pathetic mistake.
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Mings always has something to say on social media, but yet again can't even do basic defending properly.
Aside from anything else (and there's a lot there), a complete non-sequitur.
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I blame Southgate
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We're not very good unfortunately
That's harsh. We've played well today. That second goal was totally avoidable though. Mings makes far too many unforced errors.
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Drop him next league game. Show these pathetic mistakes needs to stop
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Mings always has something to say on social media, but yet again can't even do basic defending properly.
What a load of shite, no surprise given its author.
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He was not fit for us but ok for England and is playing like he could not give a fuck.
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Mings has probably made more mistakes leading directly to goals since we've been back in the Premier League than any other player. He's always, always got a match-changing fuck up in him.
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Drop him next league game. Show these pathetic mistakes needs to stop
Yeah, surprised no one has told him it's bad to do those mistakes
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Here comes Bailey. Not sure about taking Ramsey off, mind. 5-2-3?
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😡
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Cash's attempts at crosses are usually terrible.
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Mings always has something to say on social media, but yet again can't even do basic defending properly.
What a load of shite, no surprise given its author.
Wonder if he'd say the same if all Mings did on social media was wish the queen a happy birthday and post poppy emojis.
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Bailey for jj
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Oh yes Smith, take one of our better players off. FFS.
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We're not very good unfortunately
That's harsh. We've played well today. That second goal was totally avoidable though. Mings makes far too many unforced errors.
Too many mistakes in us. Can't do that in this league
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Steer's lack of presence in the box makes you really appreciate Martinez all the more.
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Not sure on that sub, will make us way more open centrally and McGinn far less effective playing deeper.
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Oh yes Smith, take one of our better players off. FFS.
Maybe because he was on a yellow card?
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Not sure what that has just done to our midfield…
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As Smith gone mad?
Now we will get run over in midfield.
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Havertz needs some confidence too Villa.
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Cash's attempts at crosses are usually terrible.
Five feet max
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Oh yes Smith, take one of our better players off. FFS.
Maybe because he was on a yellow card?
So is Mings. Would happily see him trudging down the tunnel.
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What's that Carefree song all about anyway
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Mings always has something to say on social media, but yet again can't even do basic defending properly.
What a load of shite, no surprise given its author.
Wonder if he'd say the same if all Mings did on social media was wish the queen a happy birthday and post poppy emojis.
No chance of that happening. Multimillionaire footballers hate the Queen, they're all Marxists.
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Madness removing Ramsey but Manager takes the cowardly route.
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Holy shit! A Chelsea booking!
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Mings always has something to say on social media, but yet again can't even do basic defending properly.
What a load of shite, no surprise given its author.
Wonder if he'd say the same if all Mings did on social media was wish the queen a happy birthday and post poppy emojis.
No chance of that happening. Multimillionaire footballers hate the Queen, they're all Marxists.
Thought she was a Marxist too now?
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Brilliant Bailey.
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Watkins again, couldn't trap a bag of cement.
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This new set piece coach has added so much variety to Cash's throwing game.
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Mings has probably made more mistakes leading directly to goals since we've been back in the Premier League than any other player. He's always, always got a match-changing fuck up in him.
...and that's precisely the reason why he shouldn't even be in our team, never mind the captain.
Let's face it, he only got the captaincy because he's a virtue signalling snowflake, much in the mould of Gareth Southgate.
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There's Bailey!! Wrong end...but...
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Holy shit! A Chelsea booking!
Deep State false-flag op.
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Mings has probably made more mistakes leading directly to goals since we've been back in the Premier League than any other player. He's always, always got a match-changing fuck up in him.
...and that's precisely the reason why he shouldn't even be in our team, never mind the captain.
Let's face it, he only got the captaincy because he's a virtue signalling snowflake, much in the mould of Gareth Southgate.
Woah
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Mings always has something to say on social media, but yet again can't even do basic defending properly.
What a load of shite, no surprise given its author.
Wonder if he'd say the same if all Mings did on social media was wish the queen a happy birthday and post poppy emojis.
No chance of that happening. Multimillionaire footballers hate the Queen, they're all Marxists.
Thought she was a Marxist too now?
It's difficult to keep up these days, there are so many!
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Bailey and Watkins going to be fun to watch when both are fully fit.
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Class it of skill by bailey
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Mings has probably made more mistakes leading directly to goals since we've been back in the Premier League than any other player. He's always, always got a match-changing fuck up in him.
...and that's precisely the reason why he shouldn't even be in our team, never mind the captain.
Let's face it, he only got the captaincy because he's a virtue signalling snowflake, much in the mould of Gareth Southgate.
Goldie: "nobody can post more bollocks than me"
BC54 VFC: "hold my beer".
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Let's face it, he only got the captaincy because he's a virtue signalling snowflake, much in the mould of Gareth Southgate.
Embarrassing yourself much?
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Mings has probably made more mistakes leading directly to goals since we've been back in the Premier League than any other player. He's always, always got a match-changing fuck up in him.
...and that's precisely the reason why he shouldn't even be in our team, never mind the captain.
Let's face it, he only got the captaincy because he's a virtue signalling snowflake, much in the mould of Gareth Southgate.
Woah
Straight to Defcon 10! Crikey!
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I wish we could stop crossing altogether. It’s next to pointless.
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This second half performance has been pathetic
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I wish we could stop crossing altogether. It’s next to pointless.
Ditto balls over the top to Mendy
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we've gone to lump it down the channels mode
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Traore coming on, surely they can't take off another midfielder?
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Mings always has something to say on social media, but yet again can't even do basic defending properly.
What a load of shite, no surprise given its author.
Wonder if he'd say the same if all Mings did on social media was wish the queen a happy birthday and post poppy emojis.
Just had loads of idiots tell me that Mings’s mistakes have cost England so many games….errr…how many games have England lost recently?
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Let's face it, he only got the captaincy because he's a virtue signalling snowflake, much in the mould of Gareth Southgate.
Embarrassing yourself much?
I mean there's a lot of bollocks posted on a normal match thread but today's efforts are just Champions League stuff.
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Looking poor since there second goal
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Lots of positives. Cut by 2 silly mistakes. 2nd half not the same energy as the first… think the 2nd has killed us off.
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This second half performance has been pathetic
Has it? There was one absolutely shocking mistake after which Chelsea, the best defensive team in the world, have just held us at arm's length. I mean come on, in their last game they did it to Liverpool, away, at 1-1, with ten men. 'Pathetic' might overstate things just a little.
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Get ings off, utter gash today. For 30m I expect better. Just been a passenger all game
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Mings has probably made more mistakes leading directly to goals since we've been back in the Premier League than any other player. He's always, always got a match-changing fuck up in him.
...and that's precisely the reason why he shouldn't even be in our team, never mind the captain.
Let's face it, he only got the captaincy because he's a virtue signalling snowflake, much in the mould of Gareth Southgate.
Oh, ok then. Can read between the lines well enough here.
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We are now determined to make the scoreline flatter these fuckers.
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The second goal has killed the team this half.
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This second half performance has been pathetic
Has it? There was one absolutely shocking mistake after which Chelsea, the best defensive team in the world, have just held us at arm's length. I mean come on, in their last game they did it to Liverpool, away, at 1-1, with ten men. 'Pathetic' might overstate things just a little.
Or crossing, pressing, creatively has been awful this half. We have given up after this second it seems. Cheers tyrone
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Ffs, we are sticking with five at the back to the bitter end then. I'm sure Chelsea are much more worried about the prospect of a Tuanzebe goal than they would be about the prospect of Ings scoring.
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How's that a Chelsea freekick?
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This ref is a twat
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Still, nice to see Traore back. I bloody love him.
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Good to see the referee is consistent
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Mings and Ings to be dropped next match we can't have senior players just expecting to play because of the name on their shirts you have to earn it and today they have failed the team big time!!
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Of course the shit ref gives that to Chelsea. Utter shit ref
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This ref is a twat
given them every thing
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This second half performance has been pathetic
Has it? There was one absolutely shocking mistake after which Chelsea, the best defensive team in the world, have just held us at arm's length. I mean come on, in their last game they did it to Liverpool, away, at 1-1, with ten men. 'Pathetic' might overstate things just a little.
Or crossing, pressing, creatively has been awful this half. We have given up after this second it seems. Cheers tyrone
Sometimes your opponents don't let you play well. Chelsea are easily good enough to do that, and we'd have probably found it really hard after Tuchel got into them at halftime without the second goal.
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Would like to see Archer on for Watkins or Ings, but I would.
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Traoré on the ball giving it the dervish treatment and these ****** get the free-kick. #wankerintheblack
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Some of the comments on here are just plain daft now. We're playing the champions league winners and many pundits tip for the title. And we've looked fucking good. More than a match for them. We will go on to have a very good season.
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Ings was atrocious today. If he's not scoring Ings, he's not doing much at all.
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Lots of positives. Cut by 2 silly mistakes. 2nd half not the same energy as the first… think the 2nd has killed us off.
Yep very promising performance at times, but if you gift them a goal like the 2nd you might as well play awful for all the good its gonna do you.
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They took that clown off and brought Jorginho on who is quality. Then we gift them a goal and that's looks about that.
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Some of the comments on here are just plain daft now. We're playing the champions league winners and many pundits tip for the title. And we've looked fucking good. More than a match for them. We will go on to have a very good season.
We're going on with no more points at the moment.
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Good to see the referee is consistent
Consistently shit.
I think we've played well for most of this match.
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Would like to see Archer on for Watkins or Ings, but I would.
Archer or El Ghazi for Tuanzebe, please. I'm not singing Tuanzebe out, just no point in having three centre-halves when you need at least two goals.
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They took that clown off and brought Jorginho on who is quality. Then we gift them a goal and that's looks about that.
And have 3cbsoin which is absolutely pointless, stupid and naive by Smith
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We need to do more with these corners too.
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Mendy having the fucking game of his life
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We nearly did. Shame the header was straight at the keeper
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Ings was atrocious today. If he's not scoring Ings, he's not doing much at all.
Darren Bent
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Yeah, the set pieces have been dangerous. McPhee can't head it in for them!
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Good to see the referee is consistent
Consistently shit.
I think we've played well for most of this match.
Exactly.
Agreed. Mendy has had been forced to make a number of saves. Need to be more clinical. The second goal has hit the team. Such a mountain to climb after that.
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Can't think of one result I've enjoyed this weekend. Football is wank.
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We are leaving it a bit late to win this. :(
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Fucking Mendy, even when he's shit he's still good.
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Too many players strolling around
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Fucking Mendy, even when he's shit he's still good.
He's very supple.Bendy.
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Nakamba, at 2-0 down?
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Nakamba for Luiz, leave five defenders on, needing two goals in ten minutes? Come on, even the five at the back maniacs must agree that's insane!
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Too many players strolling around
To be fair I think they’re fucked. They gave everything in that first half
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Wtf is that sub about? 😂
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Can't think of one result I've enjoyed this weekend. Football is wank.
Napoli beat Juve, in case that would cheer you up a mite.
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Nakamba, at 2-0 down?
And not for one of the three cbs. Smith using some genius decision making there
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Can't think of one result I've enjoyed this weekend. Football is wank.
Napoli beat Juve, in case that would cheer you up a mite.
Cheers mate, that'll do. 🙂
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Some of the comments on here are just plain daft now. We're playing the champions league winners and many pundits tip for the title. And we've looked fucking good. More than a match for them. We will go on to have a very good season.
Chelsea haven't got out of second gear. Trouble is they haven't needed to. We've just surrendered
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Ah crap it. I did not expect us to win today, but this feels as though we’ve had a few steps back from where we were last season.
Many stronger teams will come to Stamford Bridge and lose 2-0. It’s just the fact that we gifted it to them.
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Can't think of one result I've enjoyed this weekend. Football is wank.
Newcastle losing is always funny. Just ignore the name of the opposition.
I'm happy Sheff Utd won, keeps half our house happy.
Another shot on target. xGb is 1.29 them v 1.23 us.
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Watch Werner get over the yips here.
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Some of the comments on here are just plain daft now. We're playing the champions league winners and many pundits tip for the title. And we've looked fucking good. More than a match for them. We will go on to have a very good season.
Chelsea haven't got out of second gear. Trouble is they haven't needed to. We've just surrendered
You on the wind-up?
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Seen plenty of hope today, just conceding the second goal in the manner we did knocked us out of our stride. No issue with manager or team today bar the two defensive errors.
Fixture list continues to look tricky next few weeks but can see things clicking from late October onwards.
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How the fuck has he not booked him for that?
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Ah crap it. I did not expect us to win today, but this feels as though we’ve had a few steps back from where we were last season.
Many stronger teams will come to Stamford Bridge and lose 2-0. It’s just the fact that we gifted it to them.
I’m confused, how is that a step back?
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What pisses me off where was that first half performance against Brentford? We would have blown them apart.
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And yet another corner. Come. On. Villa.
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How the fuck has he not booked him for that?
I’ve said that five times today..
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Can't think of one result I've enjoyed this weekend. Football is wank.
Newcastle losing is always funny. Just ignore the name of the opposition.
I'm happy Sheff Utd won, keeps half our house happy.
Another shot on target. xGb is 1.29 them v 1.23 us.
That greasy rat actually makes me hope that Man U finish higher than them. I feel dirty saying it, but there you go.
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Some match stats:
Possesion
59/41%
Shots on target
Them 3 us 6
Corners
them 4 us 11
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Stuart tWatkins
Blatant yellow for chalobah
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How the fuck has he not booked him for that?
I’ve said that five times today..
Atwell has been a fucking cheat
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I openly admit I'm not the sharpest dart in the Board but can someone please explain to me how the fuck we are not at least on the scoreboard in this match??.....
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If Mendy doesn't get man of the match I'm gonna scream and scream until I'm sick.
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Some of the comments on here are just plain daft now. We're playing the champions league winners and many pundits tip for the title. And we've looked fucking good. More than a match for them. We will go on to have a very good season.
Chelsea haven't got out of second gear. Trouble is they haven't needed to. We've just surrendered
You on the wind-up?
We've given them two goals I'm afraid. Hardly had to work for them have they?
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Ah crap it. I did not expect us to win today, but this feels as though we’ve had a few steps back from where we were last season.
Many stronger teams will come to Stamford Bridge and lose 2-0. It’s just the fact that we gifted it to them.
I’m confused, how is that a step back?
Honestly think we played better today than the 1-1 last season when from memory we really rode our luck with some of the chances they missed.
And they were also still managed by Lampard then so all round more balanced and cohesive team now.
Bit beyond me how people can watch this and not see there is hope for the season even if it will takes us 2-3 months to properly click.
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Can't think of one result I've enjoyed this weekend. Football is wank.
Spurs lost and West Ham didn't win.
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Some match stats:
Possesion
59/41%
Shots on target
Them 3 us 6
Corners
them 4 us 11
Thank you SHQ, people on here seem to think we are shit and have been outplayed. I’m sitting watching with my mate who’s an Arse fan and even he says we’ve been the better team
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I openly admit I'm not the sharpest dart in the Board but can someone please explain to me how the fuck we are not at least on the scoreboard in this match??.....
Watkins, Mendy, Zeus, Odin, Ra and the combined supernatural forces of Earth history.
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How the fuck has he not booked him for that?
I’ve said that five times today..
Atwell has been a fucking cheat
It's getting farcical now.
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How the fuck has he not booked him for that?
I’ve said that five times today..
Atwell has been a fucking cheat
Twatwell
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What pisses me off where was that first half performance against Brentford? We would have blown them apart.
We always raise our game against the top teams and struggle with the lesser teams, Newcastle apart.
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Ah crap it. I did not expect us to win today, but this feels as though we’ve had a few steps back from where we were last season.
Many stronger teams will come to Stamford Bridge and lose 2-0. It’s just the fact that we gifted it to them.
I’m confused, how is that a step back?
I’m just thinking in terms of what we were doing last season, and results. We drew this fixture last year, although we created less and had less on target shots. I also think our defence has taken a step back somehow, gifting the 2nd goal being a prime example.
I do feel that when this gels, we’re going to genuinely exciting. But we’re not quite there yet.
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Our work rate has been good too.
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Mings has probably made more mistakes leading directly to goals since we've been back in the Premier League than any other player. He's always, always got a match-changing fuck up in him.
...and that's precisely the reason why he shouldn't even be in our team, never mind the captain.
Let's face it, he only got the captaincy because he's a virtue signalling snowflake, much in the mould of Gareth Southgate.
That's a really poor comment. I'll put it down to the emotions of watching a game in which we've played pretty well. It's out of order though. One howler aside, Mings has played well.
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The fact that we’ve played quite well just makes the fuck up from Mings all the more galling.
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Much better display, but not precise enough at either end of the pitch.
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Everton becomes a very big game now, some tough fixtures coming up and we could easily start to tumble down the league very quickly
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Some match stats:
Possesion
59/41%
Shots on target
Them 3 us 6
Corners
them 4 us 11
Thank you SHQ, people on here seem to think we are shit and have been outplayed. I’m sitting watching with my mate who’s an Arse fan and even he says we’ve been the better team
It reminds me a bit of West Ham away last season. Played brilliantly and got robbed in the end but we then went on a very good run for next 6 weeks.
Tricky to see that happening with next few fixtures but think we'll start blowing away some mid table teams whenever we play them if we keep everyone fit.
I think Benitez will be watching this and be pretty impressed so interesting how Everton line up next weekend.
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I openly admit I'm not the sharpest dart in the Board but can someone please explain to me how the fuck we are not at least on the scoreboard in this match??.....
You swap Watkins for Lukaku, you swap the scoreline.
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Everton becomes a very big game now, some tough fixtures coming up and we could easily start to tumble down the league very quickly
Fingers crossed, eh?
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And the referee really is corrupt
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Result aside it's been a decent performance, plenty to look forward to this season I think, won't be top six but an exciting season ahead.
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The ref isn't even pretending not to be a cheat.
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Everton becomes a very big game now, some tough fixtures coming up and we could easily start to tumble down the league very quickly
Fingers crossed, eh?
😁
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1st half was better second half as bad as Watford for me, gave up showed no passion
Threw in white flag after that second went in. Created nothing second half which is worrying
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Dropped off this half but really should have been at least level at half time.
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5 yellows for us and just one for them is a complete joke based on the challenges.
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What in the hell is this referee doing?
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1st half was better second half as bad as Watford for me, gave up showed no passion
Threw in white flag after that second went in. Created nothing second half which is worrying
Are you for real?….
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The ref isn't even pretending not to be a cheat.
its one of the most biased refereeing displays I have ever seen.
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Everton becomes a very big game now, some tough fixtures coming up and we could easily start to tumble down the league very quickly
Fingers crossed, eh?
😁
say it to my face ::) :o ;D
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I hope Dean is getting very well paid for wearing that shirt.
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Everton becomes a very big game now, some tough fixtures coming up and we could easily start to tumble down the league very quickly
Oh ffs
Post something positive you twat.
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Dean looks upset. He should see CD’s face with the decision to play 5 at the back.
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Jesus. Attwell should never referee a premier league game again
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Atwell has been abysmal, fucking pathetic.
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The referee's a wanker
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Unbelievable how fucking biased this refs been.
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Everton becomes a very big game now, some tough fixtures coming up and we could easily start to tumble down the league very quickly
Oh ffs
Post something positive you twat.
You can pack that in right now.
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Everton becomes a very big game now, some tough fixtures coming up and we could easily start to tumble down the league very quickly
Oh ffs
Post something positive you twat.
No need for that mate.
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Everton becomes a very big game now, some tough fixtures coming up and we could easily start to tumble down the league very quickly
Fingers crossed, eh?
😁
say it to my face ::) :o ;D
How big is your dad?
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Farcical scoreline.
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Meh.
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I hate this fucking game.
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Cut the abuse out.
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That's harsh. I thought 2 - 0 was harsh, but 3 - 0. kick in the balls.
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There we go.
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If I live to be a hundred I'll never understand this fucking game.
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Oh that’s my weekend gone. Where’s the wine?
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Defence and goalkeeper.
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Mings and Tuanzebe shite, yet again.
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Flatters them massively, but that's how it is. They really are very boring, but they've got Lukaku so that's how it's going to be.
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Lukaku has had 2 chances, 2 goals. How many chances did we have?
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Chelsea will win the league.
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How can you blame Steer?…
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Oh fuck off. Scoreline flatters them.
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Another fuck up by Mings!!
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Flatters them massively, but that's how it is. They really are very boring, but they've got Lukaku so that's how it's going to be.
Doesn’t help when you have defenders literally giving it to them on a plate.
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This has not been a 3-0 game. With Martinez on the pitch he saves at least two of the goals.
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The 5 Defenders worked well then.....
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Referee MoM for them!…he was shocking
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No shape, no plan B, nothing there at all…poor transfer window and poor pre-season preparation is really showing us up now.
Edit:said hastily in anger, still think the transfer window was poor though
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The 5 Defenders worked well then.....
It did, they won 3-0.
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[/quote]Another fuck up by Mings!!
Really?? FFS
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Flatters them massively, but that's how it is. They really are very boring, but they've got Lukaku so that's how it's going to be.
Doesn’t help when you have defenders literally giving it to them on a plate.
Oh Risso, you're better than this. ☹
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So frustrating. They have a 100m striker and the ref and they win.
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This has not been a 3-0 game. With Martinez on the pitch he saves at least two of the goals.
No way you can blame Steer for this. Missed chances in the first half killed us. I know Watkins is just coming back from injury but compare and contrast with regards to Lukaku.
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Unreal finish!
The European championships with the addition of a £100m striker, and we've pretty much matched them, arguably been the better side for large parts.
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A game of ifs and buts.
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Flatters them massively, but that's how it is. They really are very boring, but they've got Lukaku so that's how it's going to be.
Doesn’t help when you have defenders literally giving it to them on a plate.
Oh Risso, you're better than this. ☹
Is he?
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Unreal finish!
The European championships with the addition of a £100m striker, and we've pretty much matched them, arguably been the better side for large parts.
Mate - no "Arguably" about it.....
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This has not been a 3-0 game. With Martinez on the pitch he saves at least two of the goals.
No way you can blame Steer for this. Missed chances in the first half killed us. I know Watkins is just coming back from injury but compare and contrast with regards to Lukaku.
Sorry Bob but I agree with Adam. Martinez gives the whole back 4 more confidence and they would not have scored three goals
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Yup ifs and buts indeed. The captain of the club we support will put his hand up to a bad error and knuckle down to improve in the week.
At least one poster in this thread might want to think about what their improvement plan is, after the disgusting comments about our skipper. A long hard look in a mirror would be a good start point !
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Yup ifs and buts indeed. The captain of the club we support will put his hand up to a bad error and knuckle down to improve in the week.
At least one poster in this thread might want to think about what their improvement plan is, after the disgusting comments about our skipper. A long hard look in a mirror would be a good start point !
Totally agree. Matched them for much of the game.
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I'd not bet against Lukaku finishing as the top scorer across European leagues this season. He was the difference. Ollie still has a way to go.
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Left our shooting boots at Bodymoor.
Very much a should have, could have game.
At the start of the season the expectation was that winning at the home of the Chumps League champs would be a big ask in which everything would have to fall in our favour.
They didn't, which is why we lost.
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Already 2-0 down when I started watching, but you wouldn’t have known it from the play. Looked like Villa gave it a good crack. Chelsea pretty solid in defence though, plus the ref giving them everything of course.
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We actually gave Chelsea a game. Gifting them a goal or two doesn't help , but that referee was shocking. I'll be surprised if Deano doesn't vent his spleen post match interview and probably get a fine.