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Title: League Cup 2021-22: Round 4 draw.
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 10, 2021, 10:03:51 PM

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The details of the upcoming Carabao Cup Round Two draw have been confirmed.

The draw will be broadcast live on Sky Sports following the conclusion of Leyton Orient's Round One clash against Queens Park Rangers, which kicks off at 7:45pm on Wednesday 11 August.

Supporters can also follow the draw, which will be made on a regional north/south basis, live on Twitter via @Carabao_Cup.



https://www.efl.com/news/2021/august/carabao-cup-round-two-draw-details-confirmed/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021%E2%80%9322_EFL_Cup

Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Footy-Vill on August 10, 2021, 10:04:05 PM
League Cup 21/22
The winner of the League Cup qualifies for the play-off round of the 2022/2023 UEFA Europa Conference
Aston Villa are one of 50 clubs in the second round draw for the EFL Carabao Cup.
The second round draw is Wednesday night August 11th.
Expect the draw to take place somewhere between
930-10pm
The draw will be regionalised on a north/south basis
Broadcast live on Sky Sports
Can also follow the draw live on Twitter via @Carabao_Cup
And be on either Radio 5 or Talk sport radio stations.

Villas 2nd round tie will be played  midweek on August 24th/25th played in between home matches Vs Newcastle and Brentford.

Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on August 10, 2021, 10:24:03 PM
Assume we will be in the Northern section
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: mr-villa on August 10, 2021, 10:59:22 PM
Qualified for round 2.
Crewe
Barrow
Morecombe
Derby
Huddersfield
Wigan
Preston
Oldham
Sunderland
Accrington
Sheff U
Shrewsbury
Stoke
Doncaster
Bolton
----------
Cardiff
Gillingham
Birmingham
Cheltenham
Cambridge
Wimbledon
Wycombe
Forest Green
Newport
Millwall
Plymouth
Stevenage
Swansea

Arsenal
Burnley
Brighton
Crystal Palace
Everton
Newcastle
Norwich
Leeds
Southampton
Watford
West Ham
Wolves

And tbd
Blackpool/Middlesbrough
Nottm Forest /Bradford
Burton/Oxford Utd
Coventry/Northampton
Leyton Orient/QPR
Harrogate /Rochdale

Remains to be seen if we are northen side of draw as previous season Villa were number 1 ball.
Accrington will take that accolade!


Brentford missing off your list
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 10, 2021, 11:42:30 PM
Hate regionalised draws.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 11, 2021, 12:41:58 AM
Derby at home please.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 11, 2021, 12:52:49 AM
Would like Barrow at home, pretty sure I've never seen them.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: nordenvillain on August 11, 2021, 01:39:25 AM
Rochdale been given W/O as Harrogate have Covid in the squad and there's not time to rearrange before the 2nd round date.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Hillbilly on August 11, 2021, 02:45:23 AM
"The winner of the League Cup qualifies for the play-off round of the 2022/2023 UEFA Europa Conference".

That's an incentive to finish higher up the league and qualify for the UEFA Cup or the Champions League to avoid that nonsense.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Demitri_C on August 11, 2021, 06:08:41 AM
Why put league cup winners in the shit cup?

It should be carabao. Guess they trying ti turn this confernece cup into cup winners cup.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 11, 2021, 07:40:06 AM
Hate regionalised draws.

I assume it's done to avoid say Plymouth and Barrow having to play each other mid week. Having said that the National League over the years has had many long distance fixtures which clubs have got on and dealt with.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 11, 2021, 08:02:05 AM
Yeah, we aren't exactly Russia. And the draw halves our chances of playing a local team!
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on August 11, 2021, 09:32:21 AM
Rochdale been given W/O as Harrogate have Covid in the squad and there's not time to rearrange before the 2nd round date.

Chelsea v Rochdale in the 3rd Round then
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: LeeB on August 11, 2021, 10:34:25 AM
Yeah, we aren't exactly Russia. And the draw halves our chances of playing a local team!

Or a 'bye' as it's otherwise known.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Footy-Vill on August 11, 2021, 07:26:38 PM
Can get as big as 50/1 for Villa to win the cup.
Generally around 33/1 still OK before the draw...
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: N'ZMAV on August 11, 2021, 08:48:02 PM
Blues blues blues
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 11, 2021, 08:53:44 PM
No thanks. Nothing to gain, would never hear the end of it if we fucked it up. Best case scenario we go through comfortably having picked a strong team to be on the safe side, while whoever we play the weekend after will have had a nice rest after playing a collection of schoolboys, kit men and catering staff during their League Cup tie.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Demitri_C on August 11, 2021, 09:00:57 PM
Have  a feeling we might get Coventry away
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Ads on August 11, 2021, 09:00:59 PM
Small Heath away please.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 11, 2021, 09:06:16 PM
Small Heath away please.

No thanks, don't mind getting them in the FA Cup when the new players have settled in but not before the end of Aug.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Three Spires Villa on August 11, 2021, 09:13:17 PM
Small Heath away please.

I would prefer never to have the play the "unwashed" ever, i don't want to give them any kind of moral victory, forget them.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 11, 2021, 09:15:19 PM
Exactly. Wanting a local derby in the cups is diddy club behaviour.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 11, 2021, 09:33:20 PM
A mid week trip to Holker Street.

We are ball number 2 in the northern section.
Small Heath and Smethwick are both in the southern section.

https://www.efl.com/news/2021/august/carabao-cup-round-two-draw-ball-numbers-confirmed/

Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: john e on August 11, 2021, 09:41:14 PM
It’s gona be bogey side Stoke init
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Ads on August 11, 2021, 09:58:16 PM
Exactly. Wanting a local derby in the cups is diddy club behaviour.

Being scared about playing the Noses is Diddy Club stuff.

Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 11, 2021, 10:00:15 PM
Stop talking shite. Man United fans don't get excited about playing Morecambe. Doesn't mean they're scared of them.

Anyway, they need to get on with this draw.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Villa Lew on August 11, 2021, 10:01:35 PM
QPR at home Albert returning to VP would be brilliant.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 11, 2021, 10:01:53 PM
QPR at home Albert returning to VP would be brilliant.

We are in the Northern Section.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 11, 2021, 10:03:19 PM
We actually can't play SHA can we....

Probably Blackburn if they're still in it....used to play them more than Man. United in cups about a decade ago.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Ads on August 11, 2021, 10:04:32 PM
Stop talking shite. Man United fans don't get excited about playing Morecambe. Doesn't mean they're scared of them.

Anyway, they need to get on with this draw.

They get all fuzzy about going to Elland Road.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 11, 2021, 10:05:16 PM
Everton, Leeds or Wolves look the worst possible draws we can get.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Villa Lew on August 11, 2021, 10:06:39 PM
QPR at home Albert returning to VP would be brilliant.

We are in the Northern Section.

Ah it's looking doubtful then!
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 11, 2021, 10:07:34 PM
Stop. Dragging it out. You twats.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: AV82EC on August 11, 2021, 10:07:56 PM
What channel is it on?
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on August 11, 2021, 10:08:14 PM
Andy Fackin Townsend is going the draw.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 11, 2021, 10:09:13 PM
I don't mind then dragging out so much if they're talking about us winning it, to be fair. 🙂
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 11, 2021, 10:09:32 PM
What channel is it on?

Sky Sports Football.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Footy-Vill on August 11, 2021, 10:09:37 PM
Good to have villa chat
Here we go.
Ball number 2
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on August 11, 2021, 10:09:51 PM
Oldham?
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on August 11, 2021, 10:10:53 PM
We will get Huddersfield
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on August 11, 2021, 10:11:12 PM
Or Hull
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Footy-Vill on August 11, 2021, 10:11:26 PM
Whoever types out the Villa tie quickest should be awarded a prize..
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on August 11, 2021, 10:11:40 PM
Stoke here we go
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Footy-Vill on August 11, 2021, 10:11:53 PM
Fastest fingers
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on August 11, 2021, 10:12:00 PM
Shrews
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Footy-Vill on August 11, 2021, 10:12:17 PM
For the privilege
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on August 11, 2021, 10:12:17 PM
It’s gonna be forest
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 11, 2021, 10:12:29 PM
Andy Townsend with grey hair....

Time to end that trophy drought....
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Footy-Vill on August 11, 2021, 10:12:32 PM
Stop cheating
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on August 11, 2021, 10:12:37 PM
Morecambe here we go
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on August 11, 2021, 10:12:55 PM
Balckoool
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Footy-Vill on August 11, 2021, 10:13:02 PM
Have you got what it takes ?
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on August 11, 2021, 10:13:12 PM
Leeds fcuk
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Footy-Vill on August 11, 2021, 10:13:29 PM
Getting closer now
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 11, 2021, 10:13:31 PM
Villa away to Barrow.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on August 11, 2021, 10:13:35 PM
Barrow
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Footy-Vill on August 11, 2021, 10:13:38 PM
BARROW
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Footy-Vill on August 11, 2021, 10:13:51 PM
Villa away to Barrow.
You win !!!
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on August 11, 2021, 10:13:54 PM
Fcukin hell CD
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 11, 2021, 10:14:20 PM
A mid week trip to Holker Street.

We are ball number 2 in the northern section.
Small Heath and Smethwick are both in the southern section.

https://www.efl.com/news/2021/august/carabao-cup-round-two-draw-ball-numbers-confirmed/



Told you !
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on August 11, 2021, 10:14:28 PM
It predictive texted Barks causing a crucial delay.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Footy-Vill on August 11, 2021, 10:14:43 PM
Villa away to Barrow.
Olympic level there cdbw!
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: andyh on August 11, 2021, 10:15:20 PM
Barrow? Who are dey?
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Tuscans on August 11, 2021, 10:16:01 PM
Roll out the Barrow
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 11, 2021, 10:16:08 PM
Blimey long midweek trek that!
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on August 11, 2021, 10:16:13 PM
Albion are out.  Arse at home.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Footy-Vill on August 11, 2021, 10:16:36 PM
So I don't even know what or who this Barrow are obviously in the North. No idea.
Must be league 2?
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 11, 2021, 10:16:42 PM
Small Heath v Fulham.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on August 11, 2021, 10:16:43 PM
Blues at home to Fulham
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: amfy on August 11, 2021, 10:16:54 PM
Getting in quickly - if anyone with a good away history doesn’t fancy Barrow on a Tuesday night can they let me know please?
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on August 11, 2021, 10:17:04 PM
Small Heath v Fulham.

For Christ’s sake.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Meanwood Villa on August 11, 2021, 10:17:15 PM
A mid week trip to Holker Street.




Good shout
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 11, 2021, 10:17:42 PM
So I don't even know what or who this Barrow are obviously in the North. No idea.
Must be league 2?

Very far North. They were in the league for years before spending decades in non-league. Promoted back to the bottom tier the year before last.

We really should be winning.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 11, 2021, 10:18:28 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holker_Street

Holker Street has remained unchanged since the redevelopment of the main stand in the mid-1990s. Described as having "a traditional, old fashioned feel", the ground has three sides of terracing and one all-seater Main Stand, the latter with a capacity of around 1,000. The Main Stand, backing onto Wilkie Road is raised above the central portion of the pitch, with flat standing on either side. The Popular Side now has the only covered terracing, opposite the Main Stand. This end is dominated by the CrossBar which houses the club's offices, and which somewhat damages the aesthetics of the ground. Between 1963 and 2017, the ground had large floodlighting structures in its four corners. Three of those were replaced by smaller floodlights; one was kept because it also functions as a mobile phone mast.

The stadium also has basic catering facilities on match days.


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The roof of the Main Stand suffered minor damage on 16 October 2017, as a result of Hurricane Ophelia. In 2020, a roof was built on the Holker Street End of the ground after the club had won promotion back to the Football League.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 11, 2021, 10:18:38 PM
Albion are out.  Arse at home.

They'll beat Arsenal Youth Team if they bother to treat is seriously. They probably won't, though.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Footy-Vill on August 11, 2021, 10:20:55 PM
So I don't even know what or who this Barrow are obviously in the North. No idea.
Must be league 2?

Very far North. They were in the league for years before spending decades in non-league. Promoted back to the bottom tier the year before last.

We really should be winning.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holker_Street

Holker Street has remained unchanged since the redevelopment of the main stand in the mid-1990s. Described as having "a traditional, old fashioned feel", the ground has three sides of terracing and one all-seater Main Stand, the latter with a capacity of around 1,000. The Main Stand, backing onto Wilkie Road is raised above the central portion of the pitch, with flat standing on either side. The Popular Side now has the only covered terracing, opposite the Main Stand. This end is dominated by the CrossBar which houses the club's offices, and which somewhat damages the aesthetics of the ground. Between 1963 and 2017, the ground had large floodlighting structures in its four corners. Three of those were replaced by smaller floodlights; one was kept because it also functions as a mobile phone mast.

The stadium also has basic catering facilities on match days.

The roof of the Main Stand suffered minor damage on 16 October 2017, as a result of Hurricane Ophelia. In 2020, a roof was built on the Holker Street End of the ground after the club had won promotion back to the Football League.

Wow thats a good sounding and good tie in all fairness.
Outside of anyone having to get up there.
Thanks
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: dave shelley on August 11, 2021, 10:21:52 PM
So I don't even know what or who this Barrow are obviously in the North. No idea.
Must be league 2?

North West England Footy, look up Barrow-in-Furness Cumbria.  Formerly a large ship building town.

Here you go Footy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holker_Street)
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Demitri_C on August 11, 2021, 10:22:16 PM
The stadium capacity is only 5k??
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 11, 2021, 10:24:43 PM
The stadium also has basic catering facilities on match days.

I bet their cheesy fries are still better than those at the Sty.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Footy-Vill on August 11, 2021, 10:25:00 PM
Balckoool
This effort !   ;D
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 11, 2021, 10:26:58 PM
So I don't even know what or who this Barrow are obviously in the North. No idea.
Must be league 2?

It's in Furness.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Footy-Vill on August 11, 2021, 10:27:55 PM
So I don't even know what or who this Barrow are obviously in the North. No idea.
Must be league 2?

North West England Footy, look up Barrow-in-Furness Cumbria.  Formerly a large ship building town.

Here you go Footy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holker_Street)
Wow that's Really interesting.  Thanks! Bet it's very cold up there!
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: AV82EC on August 11, 2021, 10:28:28 PM
Long midweek trip for the committed that one!

Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Footy-Vill on August 11, 2021, 10:29:23 PM
So I don't even know what or who this Barrow are obviously in the North. No idea.
Must be league 2?

It's in Furness.
And that is.
Furness is a peninsula and region of Cumbria in northwestern England. Together with the Cartmel Peninsula it forms North Lonsdale, historically an exclave of Lancashire!
The Internet  helped!
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Toronto Villa on August 11, 2021, 10:30:12 PM
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Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: SoccerHQ on August 11, 2021, 10:32:07 PM
Was actually going to visit the place one but gave up when they cancelled the train from Oxenholme Lake District and spent a very pleasant afternoon in Kendal instead.

Far worse away trips out there if you do an overnight stay around that part of the world.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Villa Lew on August 11, 2021, 10:38:53 PM
Their manager is Mark Cooper ex Blues player and son of Terry, who passed away recently.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Jon Crofts on August 11, 2021, 10:40:17 PM
May have to arrange a work trip to visit our
So I don't even know what or who this Barrow are obviously in the North. No idea.
Must be league 2?

North West England Footy, look up Barrow-in-Furness Cumbria.  Formerly a large ship building town.

Here you go Footy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holker_Street)

Formerly a ship building town?

9000 men and women still build submarines there Dave.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 11, 2021, 10:44:02 PM
There are many pubs and working men's clubs in Barrow. Barrow has fourteen of the latter, one of the highest number per capita of any British town. There are also many bars and clubs found primarily in Barrow town centre on Duke Street and Cornwallis Street. Popular venues on Duke Street include the following bars: Jefferson's, the Buddha Bar, Bar Cairo and the Drawing Room. They did have a Yates's but the building was deemed unsafe and has since been demolished.

A traditional favourite food in Barrow is the pie, and particularly the meat and potato pie. Pie shops are common, and Green's of Jarrow Street is noted as a favourite of Barrow-born celebrity chef Dave Myers and journalist Martin Tarbuck, who declared them to be Britain's best pies in a book dedicated to the subject.

Barrow was also the home of soft-drink company Marsh's, which produced a distinctive sarsaparilla-flavoured fizzy drink known as Sass. Marsh's was purchased by Purity Soft Drinks of Birmingham in 1993, and the company stopped producing Sass in 1999. Remaining bottles have subsequently sold for high prices as a collector's item. A new product, labelled "Barrow Sass", was launched in 2014 in a bid to replicate traditional Sass.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: SaddVillan on August 11, 2021, 10:45:18 PM
 172 miles from Villa Park. 4 hr drive - assuming the M6 is clear all the way north.

Last train out of there leaves at quarter to ten, but takes until  early morning to get you back to Brum with a couple of changes thrown in.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: AV82EC on August 11, 2021, 10:50:15 PM
I’m a bit further North and it’s a 2 and a half hour drive for me and nearly 3 hours on the train. That 9:45 train back will be cutting it fine after full time even with a 745 ko! You certainly couldn’t stay for ET or penalties.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 11, 2021, 10:51:22 PM
May have to arrange a work trip to visit our
So I don't even know what or who this Barrow are obviously in the North. No idea.
Must be league 2?

North West England Footy, look up Barrow-in-Furness Cumbria.  Formerly a large ship building town.

Here you go Footy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holker_Street)

Formerly a ship building town?

9000 men and women still build submarines there Dave.

They must be brilliant at holding their breath.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 11, 2021, 10:53:19 PM
https://twitter.com/BarrowAFC/status/1425570952360992772

"It's great draw for everyone connected with the Club and a massive occasion for us all to look forward to."

Bluebirds boss Mark Cooper on being drawn at home to Aston Villa in Round Two of the Carabao Cup.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: nordenvillain on August 11, 2021, 10:53:30 PM
Make it sound so difficult to get there SV, then us Oop North will stand a better chance of getting  tickets. Ground only holds 5046.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Footy-Vill on August 11, 2021, 10:54:16 PM
Wesley will be OK for this?
Against these just the tonic.
If he doesn't start grabbing players
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: dave shelley on August 11, 2021, 10:54:39 PM
May have to arrange a work trip to visit our
So I don't even know what or who this Barrow are obviously in the North. No idea.
Must be league 2?

North West England Footy, look up Barrow-in-Furness Cumbria.  Formerly a large ship building town.

Here you go Footy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holker_Street)

Formerly a ship building town?

9000 men and women still build submarines there Dave.

I know Jon I was too quick on the draw and never read it back after amending it.  :(
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Footy-Vill on August 11, 2021, 10:56:02 PM
Any consolation no extra time in these matches despite the geography and supposed nearer locations.
If level at full time then straight to a penalty shooter
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: AV82EC on August 11, 2021, 11:00:26 PM
What’s the away allocation for a league cup tie? I have a vague recollection it would be about 15% or 750 or so tickets.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 11, 2021, 11:01:54 PM
Steer

Guilbert
Tuanzebe
Hause
A Young

Nakamba
Hourihane

Philogene-Bidace
Wesley
El Ghazi

I reckon.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: SaddVillan on August 11, 2021, 11:09:49 PM
Ground capacity 5,045
We're entitled to claim 10% as a minimum.
That would leave c.4,500 available
Their average attendance when they got promoted from the Conference was 1376.
They didn't have any crowds last season because of Covid,

Guess tickets will be in short supply
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 11, 2021, 11:10:27 PM

Last train out of there leaves at quarter to ten, but takes until  early morning to get you back to Brum with a couple of changes thrown in.

This involves waiting in Manchester Piccadilly between 1am and 5am to change. You would probably bump into a drunken ratboy wearing unmatching slippers stumbling out some nightclub.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 11, 2021, 11:14:58 PM
660 tickets is the figure Barrow fans have been suggesting we will get on Twitter.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 11, 2021, 11:16:54 PM
Steer

Guilbert
Tuanzebe
Hause
A Young

Nakamba
Hourihane

Philogene-Bidace
Wesley
El Ghazi

I reckon.

Who's that Ireckon bloke you have up front with the other ten?
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 11, 2021, 11:18:01 PM
Here's the Barrow fans forum.

https://www.barrowafc.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=29037

Quote
McMark » Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:53 pm

Jack Grealish will be miffed, probably been waiting his whole career for a dream fixture like this.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 11, 2021, 11:20:36 PM
Steer

Guilbert
Tuanzebe
Hause
A Young

Nakamba
Hourihane

Philogene-Bidace
Wesley
El Ghazi

I reckon.

Who's that Ireckon bloke you have up front with the other ten?

Promising youngster. Man City are watching him closely.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow Town (A)
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 11, 2021, 11:26:48 PM
Here's the Barrow fans forum.

I see Wes sponsors their ground. https://www.barrowafc.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=29024
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow Town (A)
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 11, 2021, 11:43:10 PM
Tricky to get to ? Ask Billy Jervis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Jervis
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow Town (A)
Post by: purpletrousers on August 12, 2021, 12:03:46 AM
Here's the Barrow fans forum.

I see Wes sponsors their ground. https://www.barrowafc.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=29024

? ? ?
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow Town (A)
Post by: Perthvillan on August 12, 2021, 02:40:19 AM
I could be wrong but I don't think we have ever played Barrow in a competitive game.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow Town (A)
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 12, 2021, 07:07:11 AM
Barrow beat Scunthorpe in R1 with a spectacular goal from Dimitri Sea (ex Villa).



Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow Town (A)
Post by: Demitri_C on August 12, 2021, 08:01:32 AM
I hope deano will take this seriously we want a cup

If we lose this it would be utterly humiliating
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow Town (A)
Post by: PeterWithe on August 12, 2021, 08:20:23 AM
I’ve seen them play Sutton Town, they bought a fair few with them and the ones we spoke to were a decent bunch

From going up there with work it’s not one of the more picturesque Cumbrian towns.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow Town (A)
Post by: King Cropley on August 12, 2021, 08:28:23 AM
I hope that we forego our right to 45% of the gate money (as I think we've done in the past ?). Would be a great gesture to help a smaller club out, in these troubled times.....and it's not like we need the dough.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Percy McCarthy on August 12, 2021, 08:31:32 AM
Steer

Guilbert
Tuanzebe
Hause
A Young

Nakamba
Hourihane

Philogene-Bidace
Wesley
El Ghazi

I reckon.

Who gets sent off?
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow Town (A)
Post by: Meanwood Villa on August 12, 2021, 08:34:26 AM
They are not called Barrow Town!
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow Town (A)
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 12, 2021, 08:34:52 AM
Good chance to practice playing with ten men.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow Town (A)
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 12, 2021, 08:36:09 AM
Or put Wesley up front and add Chucky in the middle.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow Town (A)
Post by: VILLA MOLE on August 12, 2021, 08:37:41 AM
looks a good pitch
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow Town (A)
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on August 12, 2021, 08:40:11 AM
They are not called Barrow Town!

Thread title definitely needs an edit
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow Town (A)
Post by: dave shelley on August 12, 2021, 08:43:51 AM
Isn't Barrow one of Peter Withe's former clubs in his early days?
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow Town (A)
Post by: Risso on August 12, 2021, 08:44:25 AM
I’ve seen them play Sutton Town, they bought a fair few with them and the ones we spoke to were a decent bunch

From going up there with work it’s not one of the more picturesque Cumbrian towns.

That's putting it mildly, absolute shithole.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow Town (A)
Post by: Somniloquism on August 12, 2021, 09:06:52 AM
Barrow beat Scunthorpe in R1 with a spectacular goal from Dimitri Sea (ex Villa).



Long throw merchants? Just a shit mid 2000's Stoke?
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow Town (A)
Post by: CT on August 12, 2021, 09:16:41 AM
They are not called Barrow Town!

Just Barrow AFC.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow Town (A)
Post by: Proposition Joe on August 12, 2021, 09:27:45 AM
Barrow are my local team, or at least were when I lived there permanently. Grim, grim place. Furness is known as the biggest cul-de-sac in Britain (although I think there are probably hundreds pf places that call themselves that), the A590 is the only way in or out, it's very much like living on an island.

Fun things to do:
Walney Island
Piel Castle
Trying not to get set upon by the local thugs (there was a street of nightclubs and bars, long since boarded up, that was referreed to locally as the Gaza Strip)
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22
Post by: Sdwbvf on August 12, 2021, 09:37:15 AM
Getting in quickly - if anyone with a good away history doesn’t fancy Barrow on a Tuesday night can they let me know please?

Same here. I am actually staying 12 miles away that week!
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: eamonn on August 12, 2021, 10:09:11 AM
Wesley will be OK for this?
Against these just the tonic.
If he doesn't start grabbing players

I fear Wesley will be shipped-out by the time we get to ye olde shipbuilding enclave.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow Town (A)
Post by: Sdwbvf on August 12, 2021, 10:11:52 AM
Barrow are my local team, or at least were when I lived there permanently. Grim, grim place. Furness is known as the biggest cul-de-sac in Britain (although I think there are probably hundreds pf places that call themselves that), the A590 is the only way in or out, it's very much like living on an island.

Fun things to do:
Walney Island
Piel Castle
Trying not to get set upon by the local thugs (there was a street of nightclubs and bars, long since boarded up, that was referreed to locally as the Gaza Strip)

Ah Cornwallis Street. Probably went bust when they enforced under age drinking rules.

I went on a seal watching trip round Piel and South Walney just yesterday. Beautiful bit of coast rather marred by Barrow. I spent 8 unhappy months living there and 5 happy years up the road in Ulverston. For those thinking of staying the Barrow Premier Inn is a few minutes walk from the ground. Inexplicably they appear to have a Holiday Inn Express as well.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: PhilVill on August 12, 2021, 10:29:08 AM
One road in and on out so once you negotiate the A590 it’s easy to get to! You’ll never go back once you’ve been. Also a lot longer to get to than you think once you’ve hit Jct 36. Remember to draw your third eye on your forehead to fit in 😂😂
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: Demitri_C on August 12, 2021, 10:32:18 AM
I would say there is a very good chance this gets shown aa a live game along with arsenal vs west brom
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: Sdwbvf on August 12, 2021, 10:32:59 AM
40 minutes on a good day. Getting there in time for kick off I would say more like an hour with the traffic. There's about 30 miles of roadworks on the M6. When I came up there was a 30 minutes queue at Wigan.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: eamonn on August 12, 2021, 10:33:46 AM
Hourihane's last stand. Conor will get a hat-trick and leave the Villa the next day with nothing but well-wishes.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 12, 2021, 12:17:28 PM
Game is made for Hot Lips.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: darren woolley on August 12, 2021, 03:07:58 PM
Good draw for us.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: wittonwarrior on August 12, 2021, 05:09:12 PM
Not when even people with full away history will struggle for tickets
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: nordenvillain on August 12, 2021, 05:45:15 PM
Getting in quickly - if anyone with a good away history doesn’t fancy Barrow on a Tuesday night can they let me know please?

Same here. I am actually staying 12 miles away that week!
Shout out for 2 tickets if anyone with a perfect away record doesn't fancy or or can't make it
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: Pete3206 on August 12, 2021, 06:12:52 PM
Isn't Barrow one of Peter Withe's former clubs in his early days?

Yes
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow Town (A)
Post by: Bad English on August 12, 2021, 06:22:37 PM
I hope deano will take this seriously we want a cup

If we lose this it would be utterly humiliating
We don't want the wheels to come off at Barrow.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow Town (A)
Post by: Proposition Joe on August 12, 2021, 10:33:48 PM
Barrow are my local team, or at least were when I lived there permanently. Grim, grim place. Furness is known as the biggest cul-de-sac in Britain (although I think there are probably hundreds pf places that call themselves that), the A590 is the only way in or out, it's very much like living on an island.

Fun things to do:
Walney Island
Piel Castle
Trying not to get set upon by the local thugs (there was a street of nightclubs and bars, long since boarded up, that was referreed to locally as the Gaza Strip)

Ah Cornwallis Street. Probably went bust when they enforced under age drinking rules.

I went on a seal watching trip round Piel and South Walney just yesterday. Beautiful bit of coast rather marred by Barrow. I spent 8 unhappy months living there and 5 happy years up the road in Ulverston. For those thinking of staying the Barrow Premier Inn is a few minutes walk from the ground. Inexplicably they appear to have a Holiday Inn Express as well.

I went to school in Ulverston, well for 4 years at least. I think I like more now coming back to visit as a "tourist" than I did when I lived in the area.

Going to the rugby league in Barrow was always fun though. Last time I saw them they were branded The Braves. I have no idea what the town's connection to native Americans was, but the PA seemed to be into it ("all youse kids get off pitch or the Braves'll come out an scalp yus").
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 12, 2021, 10:43:05 PM
Inexplicably they appear to have a Holiday Inn Express as well.

Even more inexplicably it's 173 quid for the night.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: LeeB on August 12, 2021, 10:48:05 PM
Isn't Barrow one of Peter Withe's former clubs in his early days?

Yes

Apparently he was the last player to retire that had played league football for them, until they came back up.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: Lizz on August 12, 2021, 10:52:51 PM
I follow a Barrow fan on social media. He’s so happy about the draw it’s made me happy.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: MorrisNielson on August 12, 2021, 11:44:39 PM
Interesting, can’t find any reference to the first team playing against Barrow. Can only find one reserve team game that we’ve played. On 11th December 1920 the central league team had a free week and so journeyed up to Barrow for a friendly. 6000 watched as the reserves came from behind to win 2-1 with goals from Stott & Boyman. Note that 9 of the 11 had played in the first team.
Team: Jackson; Thompson, Timmins; Pendleton, Young, Leach; York, Boyman, G Blackburn, G Stephenson, Stott
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: Bernie on August 13, 2021, 08:24:12 AM
I hope deano will take this seriously we want a cup

If we lose this it would be utterly humiliating
We don't want the wheels to come off at Barrow.
Don't push it.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on August 13, 2021, 08:37:27 AM
I follow a Barrow fan on social media. He’s so happy about the draw it’s made me happy.

I had a look on a Barrow Forum and they were all thrilled. Hopefully gets picked for TV
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: dave shelley on August 13, 2021, 09:17:20 AM
Isn't Barrow one of Peter Withe's former clubs in his early days?

Yes

Apparently he was the last player to retire that had played league football for them, until they came back up.

I checked, just the one appearance, no goals.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: Sdwbvf on August 13, 2021, 11:46:51 AM
Inexplicably they appear to have a Holiday Inn Express as well.

Even more inexplicably it's 173 quid for the night.

I see the Lake District Hotel boom has reached Barrow. Not a room to be had for less than 300 last week in the National Park.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: DrGonzo on August 13, 2021, 11:59:26 AM
I'm not travelling to this one.  I went out with a girl from Barrow.  Never again will I set foot there.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: ChicagoLion on August 13, 2021, 12:13:08 PM
I'm not travelling to this one.  I went out with a girl from Barrow.  Never again will I set foot there.
Its not such a terrible place in furness.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 13, 2021, 08:46:12 PM
It's live on SKY.

https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/august/Barrow-cup-tie-selected-for-TV/
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 13, 2021, 08:56:39 PM
I went out with a girl from Barrow. Never again will I set foot there.

Sounds like the first line of a limerick. The second line doesn't work for me.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 13, 2021, 09:24:55 PM
It's live on SKY.

https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/august/Barrow-cup-tie-selected-for-TV/

Good choice.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: ChicagoLion on August 13, 2021, 09:30:44 PM
I went out with a girl from Barrow. Never again will I set foot there.

Sounds like the first line of a limerick. The second line doesn't work for me.
I went out with a girl from Barrow
Who’s arse was the shape of a marrow
Although she was tall her legs were small
And her nose was exceedingly narrow.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: Sdwbvf on August 13, 2021, 10:16:30 PM
I went out with a girl from Barrow. Never again will I set foot there.

Sounds like the first line of a limerick. The second line doesn't work for me.
I went out with a girl from Barrow
Who’s arse was the shape of a marrow
Although she was tall her legs were small
And her nose was exceedingly narrow.

You've been there then!
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: Louzie0 on August 13, 2021, 10:23:29 PM
A cocky young scholar from Barrow
......
And now he’s Headmaster at Harrow




I realised it could get H& V into trouble, so I have edited!


Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: Louzie0 on August 13, 2021, 10:31:14 PM
And apologies to any Harrovians who may read this 😃
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: Rico on August 15, 2021, 09:26:02 AM
In defence of Barrow (not really). I've had reason to visit Barrow on a number of occasions over the last decade or so, and it's fair to say it's not the most inspiring of places, but I've been to worse, however it is in a beautiful part of the country.  For those of you who are going it's a good old way, but at least you don't need a sat nav. It's very simple: M6 north and A590. I've never been to the ground but it is on the main road leading into the town centre. I wouldn't bother trying to go by train, I've done that once before and it takes forever. For anyone planning on stopping overnight I would highly recommend the weatherspoons hotel in the town centre. It's rooms are superb. There was/is a pub in the town centre called Jeffersons that does decent pub grub, and the portion sizes are huge. Last time I was there was probably about two years ago. I ordered a bowl of chilli, and it was vast. When I finally surrendered to it in the end it looked like I hadn't even started it, and Mrs Rico ordered something different and had an equally large portion. There's nothing to see or do in Barrow other than drink so don't bother going sightseeing unless you want to take a look at the submarine factory which is huge. On the coastal road out of Barrow there is a Buddhist temple which is totally unexpected, but is magnificent in its beauty.

That's about as far as my knowledge of Barrow goes. Good luck to anyone making the trip.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on August 15, 2021, 09:48:38 AM
Former Villa youth Dimitri Sea seems to be in good scoring touch for them
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: N'ZMAV on August 15, 2021, 09:49:07 AM
It's live on SKY.

https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2021/august/Barrow-cup-tie-selected-for-TV/
ah ffs - Sky obviously want to see a cup upset.... we might not let them down
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: mr underhill on August 15, 2021, 10:13:48 AM
we'd better twat these at least 12-0 or else.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: ChicagoLion on August 15, 2021, 10:40:20 AM
I went out with a girl from Barrow. Never again will I set foot there.

Sounds like the first line of a limerick. The second line doesn't work for me.
I went out with a girl from Barrow
Who’s arse was the shape of a marrow
Although she was tall her legs were small
And her nose was exceedingly narrow.

You've been there then!
yes I have , I did not however meet the girl in question.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 15, 2021, 10:48:10 AM
Barrow won 3-2 against Hartlepool yesterday, former Villa player Dimitri Sea came off the bench to score the winner.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: wince on August 15, 2021, 11:38:58 AM
Would play a full strength squad to get some more game time together.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: CT on August 15, 2021, 11:44:44 AM
Would play a full strength squad to get some more game time together.

Absolutely. Should be as near to full strength as is possible.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: Big Ming on August 15, 2021, 11:45:41 AM
This has 'classic potential banana skin with maximum embarrassment' written all over it after yesterday.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 15, 2021, 11:58:16 AM
Former Villa youth Dimitri Sea seems to be in good scoring touch for them

Hope he's more positive on the pitch than when he posts on here.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 15, 2021, 12:01:52 PM
I went out with a girl from Barrow. Never again will I set foot there.

Sounds like the first line of a limerick. The second line doesn't work for me.
I went out with a girl from Barrow
Who’s arse was the shape of a marrow
Although she was tall her legs were small
And her nose was exceedingly narrow.

:) I knew I could rely on someone to come up with the goods.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 15, 2021, 12:03:45 PM
This has 'classic potential banana skin with maximum embarrassment' written all over it after yesterday.

No chance, fancy us to win fyffe-nil.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: Sdwbvf on August 15, 2021, 04:14:46 PM
In defence of Barrow (not really). I've had reason to visit Barrow on a number of occasions over the last decade or so, and it's fair to say it's not the most inspiring of places, but I've been to worse, however it is in a beautiful part of the country.  For those of you who are going it's a good old way, but at least you don't need a sat nav. It's very simple: M6 north and A590. I've never been to the ground but it is on the main road leading into the town centre. I wouldn't bother trying to go by train, I've done that once before and it takes forever. For anyone planning on stopping overnight I would highly recommend the weatherspoons hotel in the town centre. It's rooms are superb. There was/is a pub in the town centre called Jeffersons that does decent pub grub, and the portion sizes are huge. Last time I was there was probably about two years ago. I ordered a bowl of chilli, and it was vast. When I finally surrendered to it in the end it looked like I hadn't even started it, and Mrs Rico ordered something different and had an equally large portion. There's nothing to see or do in Barrow other than drink so don't bother going sightseeing unless you want to take a look at the submarine factory which is huge. On the coastal road out of Barrow there is a Buddhist temple which is totally unexpected, but is magnificent in its beauty.

That's about as far as my knowledge of Barrow goes. Good luck to anyone making the trip.

The coast road out of Barrow is lovely. Roy's Ices on the beach at Bardsea is worth a visit. Roa Island and the view to Walney and Piel is good too.

I suspect that hotels will not be cheap generally  - the Lake District is full and Barrow is the overflow.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: Scratchins on August 17, 2021, 08:49:48 AM
Does anyone have any details of tickets? It's only 1 week away.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 17, 2021, 08:54:32 AM
Doesn't seem that Barrow have even got them on sale yet.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: Scratchins on August 17, 2021, 08:59:59 AM
Thanks, I was beginning to think that I had missed something despite constantly checking the OS.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: eamonn on August 17, 2021, 12:56:25 PM
Dimitri Sea...what a brilliantly dubious name.

But BV is right, if he's anything to do with Demitri_C, we don't want more negativity.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: wittonwarrior on August 18, 2021, 03:12:36 PM
Hurry up Villa and put them tickets on sale
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: Sdwbvf on August 18, 2021, 04:26:17 PM
Barrow put up the details today. Villa have 662 tickets. There's are on sale to Season tickets holders then members then general sale on Saturday.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: Brend'Watkins on August 18, 2021, 04:26:27 PM
Dimitri Sea...what a brilliantly dubious name.

But BV is right, if he's anything to do with Demitri_C, we don't want more negativity.

It's the H&V version of Thee OhSees/OCS/Osees etc
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: john e on August 18, 2021, 05:14:06 PM
Well Dean Smith can pick whatever team he wants for this one because we haven’t got any need to rest up players as they need the minutes for fitness apparently
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: Demitri_C on August 18, 2021, 05:22:58 PM
Dimitri Sea...what a brilliantly dubious name.

But BV is right, if he's anything to do with Demitri_C, we don't want more negativity.

You releass your being negative with that post right?  Bit of hypocrite eamonn
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: eamonn on August 18, 2021, 06:16:28 PM
Only joking, Dem.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: Demitri_C on August 18, 2021, 07:25:51 PM
Only joking, Dem.

👍😁
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: exigo on August 20, 2021, 09:42:58 PM
Big thanks to the handful of people in the 15+ category who didn't grab a ticket to this. As a 12+ (and all 19/20 League Cup games) managed to get one at lunchtime today. Ground number 47 all set.

That makes at least three of us doing the trip starting in London. Eight and a half hours of trains and an overnight stay.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: Big Ming on August 21, 2021, 01:51:47 PM
Need a strong eleven to get minutes into legs.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: SaddVillan on August 21, 2021, 05:35:18 PM
0840 Alarm clock goes off
0848 Set up an account on Barrow AFC website
0912 Two tickets purchased and printed out.
0915 Back to bed to continue Saturday lie-in.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: Demitri_C on August 21, 2021, 06:01:03 PM
Need a strong team definitely. Id start steer, targett, wes, JPB and tuanzebe.  Otherwise strong.

I think
                       Steer
Guilbert - konsa ---tuanzebe---targett

JPB----nakamba----luiz-----chuk----,AEG

--------------wes------------

Ensure ings mcginn, hause young and maybe couble youngsters on bench

Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 2 vs Barrow AFC (A)
Post by: Footy-Vill on August 24, 2021, 07:18:56 PM
Need a strong team definitely. Id start steer, targett, wes, JPB and tuanzebe.  Otherwise strong.

I think
                       Steer
Guilbert - konsa ---tuanzebe---targett

JPB----nakamba----luiz-----chuk----,AEG

--------------wes------------

Ensure ings mcginn, hause young and maybe couble youngsters on bench

Well I would have certainly gone with something similar but I think it's a great opportunity against a lower and lesser league 2 side to play the side with have selected by Dean Smith today.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 24, 2021, 09:48:02 PM
3rd round draw will be made tomorrow evening at about 10pm with scab 6 etc entering the tournament.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: Demitri_C on August 24, 2021, 09:51:00 PM
Rochdale next or stevenage if they get through please
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: manic-road on August 24, 2021, 09:52:19 PM
Hope we play pretty much the same Villa team in the next round, some of these youngsters are the future and they look good.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: Demitri_C on August 24, 2021, 09:57:59 PM
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Hope we play pretty much the same Villa team in the next round, some of these youngsters are the future and they look good.

Depends who we draw. If its someone like leeds we cant go this weak we would get trounced
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: Footy-Vill on August 24, 2021, 10:53:32 PM
Hope we play pretty much the same Villa team in the next round, some of these youngsters are the future and they look good.

I'm with you. Archer, JPB and CC for sure should play and Steer. Then decisions on others.
Tuanzebe and Hause as well. Depending how injury suspension are.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: Footy-Vill on August 24, 2021, 10:59:20 PM
3rd round draw will be made tomorrow evening at about 10pm with scab 6 etc entering the tournament.

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Hope we play pretty much the same Villa team in the next round, some of these youngsters are the future and they look good.

Depends who we draw. If its someone like leeds we cant go this weak we would get trounced
I rather we save our players for Man Utd away
18th September Everton
Round 3 League Cup 21st/22nd September
25th Sept Man Utd

Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: Footy-Vill on August 24, 2021, 11:00:14 PM
Rochdale next or stevenage if they get through please

3rd round teams
Manchester City, Man United, Liverpool, Chelsea, Leicester, West Ham,  Tottenham, Everton , Leeds, Wolves, Watford, Norwich, Brentford, Brighton
As well as West Brom/Arsenal, Newcastle/Burnley, Newport County/Southampton.

Millwall, Preston, Sheffield United, Stoke, Swansea,Fulham, QPR, Wycombe

Oldham, Sunderland, Rochdale, Wigan Cheltenham, Wimbledon,

Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 24, 2021, 11:07:40 PM
We are getting Leicester away.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 24, 2021, 11:25:21 PM
Still three teams there we have never played. Newport County, Cheltenham, Wimbledon (technicality).
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: Footy-Vill on August 24, 2021, 11:26:40 PM
Still three teams there we have never played. Newport County, Cheltenham, Wimbledon (technicality).

That's a great stat.
Thanks 👍🏼
Be great then to have one of these 3
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: Lastfootstamper on August 24, 2021, 11:29:32 PM
Still three teams there we have never played. Newport County, Cheltenham, Wimbledon (technicality).

That's a great stat.
Thanks 👍🏼
Be great then to have one of these 3

It would be even better to get them consecutively in the next three rounds!
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: nordenvillain on August 24, 2021, 11:34:26 PM
Rochdale next or stevenage if they get through please
Never mind Stevenage, Rochdale away suits me fine - The Crown Oil Arena (No longer Spotland) is just 2 miles down the main road from our house.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: SaddVillan on August 25, 2021, 12:43:03 AM
Rochdale next or stevenage if they get through please
Never mind Stevenage, Rochdale away suits me fine - The Crown Oil Arena (No longer Spotland) is just 2 miles down the main road from our house.

Boundary Park can't be too far away?

Either would suit me, but I'd prefer Spotland, another to tick off my list.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: Demitri_C on August 25, 2021, 06:42:28 AM
Rochdale next or stevenage if they get through please
Never mind Stevenage, Rochdale away suits me fine - The Crown Oil Arena (No longer Spotland) is just 2 miles down the main road from our house.

Stevenage is near me so that would have been ideal but they lost on pens.

A league one team woukd be ideal so we can play some of the kids again. If we were to draw a big side like city or chelsea it could be counter productive if those teams went in strong.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: Demitri_C on August 25, 2021, 08:46:19 PM
Whats odds we get citeh away?
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 25, 2021, 08:54:03 PM
Whats odds we get citeh away?

62/1.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: Demitri_C on August 25, 2021, 09:30:25 PM
Whats odds we get citeh away?

62/1.

Might be worth a tenner! Thanks
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 25, 2021, 09:47:04 PM
Sorry, I meant that's the probability, mathematically. I don't know of any bookies offering odds and, if they did, they'd be worse than that so they could build in their profit margins. You used to be able to bet on the coin toss in cricket and both teams would be odds on.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: JD on August 25, 2021, 09:50:40 PM
Burnley at home I reckon.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 25, 2021, 09:53:41 PM




Ball numbers

1    
AFC Wimbledon
2
Aston Villa
3
Brentford
4
Brighton & Hove Albion
5
Chelsea
6
Cheltenham Town
7
Everton
8
Fulham
9
Leeds United
10
Leicester City
11
Liverpool
12
Manchester City
13
Manchester United
14
Millwall
15
Norwich City
16
Oldham Athletic
17
Preston North End
18
Queens Park Rangers
19
Rochdale
20
Sheffield United
21
Stoke City
22
Sunderland
23
Swansea City
24
Tottenham Hotspur
25
Watford
26
West Ham United
27
Wigan Athletic
28
Wolverhampton Wanderers
29
Wycombe Wanderers
30
 Burnley
31
 Southampton
32
Arsenal
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 25, 2021, 09:56:37 PM
I'll guess Millwall at home which would be fine.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 25, 2021, 10:03:01 PM
Whats odds we get citeh away?

62/1.

It's actually 61/1.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 25, 2021, 10:03:42 PM
Follow the draw live here.

https://twitter.com/carabao_cup
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: Steve67 on August 25, 2021, 10:14:07 PM
FFS!! GET ON WITH IT!!!
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: Ads on August 25, 2021, 10:15:39 PM
Haha wtf was that
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: yammers on August 25, 2021, 10:16:16 PM
Fixing ties just were they?!!
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: Risso on August 25, 2021, 10:16:35 PM
Absolute amateurs!
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: Demitri_C on August 25, 2021, 10:17:24 PM
What happened?!
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 25, 2021, 10:18:47 PM
Here we go, I think.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: Steve67 on August 25, 2021, 10:18:51 PM
Bore off Man City
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 25, 2021, 10:19:31 PM
I blame Carabao, this wouldn't happen with Coca Cola.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: Sdwbvf on August 25, 2021, 10:19:56 PM
Whats odds we get citeh away?

62/1.

It's actually 61/1.

30:1

There are 32 teams left, so probability is 1/31

All academic as they have probably drawn while I am writing
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 25, 2021, 10:22:16 PM
Villa away to Chelsea. FFS.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: Villan For Life on August 25, 2021, 10:22:57 PM
Oh FFS!
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: Brend'Watkins on August 25, 2021, 10:22:58 PM
Bollocks
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: Risso on August 25, 2021, 10:23:33 PM
Best hope they play their reserves.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: Sexual Ealing on August 25, 2021, 10:23:37 PM
If there's a good time to play them it's this round. They've bigger fish to fry.

I'm deluded, aren't I?
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: Hookeysmith on August 25, 2021, 10:24:01 PM
Chelsea reserves.

Maybe Dean plays some of the under 18's this time to give them chance
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: Villa Lew on August 25, 2021, 10:24:12 PM
No problem for our kids!
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: Demitri_C on August 25, 2021, 10:24:44 PM
Couldnt have been any harder other than city. Even Chelsea's B team is good. Fucking joke
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 25, 2021, 10:25:00 PM
Not one of the other contenders are going out even if we do get through. Atrocious draw. Arsenal home to Wimbledon and Man City home to Wycombe. Absolute shite.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: andyh on August 25, 2021, 10:25:04 PM
Initial reaction to the draw ? Fuck off.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: Leicester_Villian on August 25, 2021, 10:25:16 PM
Who is the clueless female presenting the draw?
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: Steve67 on August 25, 2021, 10:25:55 PM
We are winning the FA Cup this season. 
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: SaddVillan on August 25, 2021, 10:27:07 PM
Another one for Sky?
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 25, 2021, 10:27:15 PM
Who is the clueless female presenting the draw?

What makes you think she's "clueless", her gender? She's literally reading out names of football teams, I'm not sure how you manage to gauge her levels of expertise from that.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: itmustbe_it is! on August 25, 2021, 10:27:59 PM
Come on Cam, they're shitting themselves already in West London !
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: Sexual Ealing on August 25, 2021, 10:28:31 PM
Who is the clueless female presenting the draw?

What makes you think she's "clueless", her gender? She's literally reading out names of football teams, I'm not sure how you many to gauge her levels of expertise from that.

Well said, cd.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 25, 2021, 10:30:20 PM
Chelsea's team from the Third Round last season...

Caballero, Azpilacueta, Tomari, Thiago Silva, Emerson, Barkley, Kovacic, Hudson-Odoi, Havertz, Mount, Abraham.

Ermm... they don't seem to play many kids.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: Legion on August 25, 2021, 10:30:24 PM
Come on Cam, they're shitting themselves already in West London !

Another routine away win awaits.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: Behind Bluenose Lines on August 25, 2021, 10:30:57 PM
What's Danny Ings's record against Chelsea like?  Cameron will need some back up!
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: andyh on August 25, 2021, 10:31:10 PM
Who is the clueless female presenting the draw?
Why ? What has done wrong. She seems pretty good to me.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 25, 2021, 10:31:23 PM
Repeat of 2006 when we had the free coaches and took 6k there.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: Nunkin1965 on August 25, 2021, 10:31:52 PM
Who is the clueless female presenting the draw?

What makes you think she's "clueless", her gender? She's literally reading out names of football teams, I'm not sure how you many to gauge her levels of expertise from that.

Well said, cd.
Agreed.
Out of order and tbf a bit of a clueless comment.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 25, 2021, 10:32:30 PM
Never voting for that twat Kevin Phillips' sister in law again after that.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: olaftab on August 25, 2021, 10:33:28 PM
Well it was fun.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on August 25, 2021, 10:35:02 PM
Who is the clueless female presenting the draw?

I blame the suffragettes. I always said giving them the vote was the thin end of the wedge.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 25, 2021, 10:35:37 PM
Feel sorry for the kids as they've earned a chance to start again, but I don't think many will after that abomination of a draw.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: Exeter 77 on August 25, 2021, 10:35:47 PM
Who is the clueless female presenting the draw?

What makes you think she's "clueless", her gender? She's literally reading out names of football teams, I'm not sure how you manage to gauge her levels of expertise from that.
Caroline Barker - been involved with non-league football for many years as well as reporting on professional football. She was a director of Chelmsford City (Nigel Spink's original club) at one point.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: Steve67 on August 25, 2021, 10:36:48 PM
Another one for Sky?

Could be. Wolves v Spurs also?
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: pooligan on August 25, 2021, 10:37:11 PM
Chelsea away twice in a fortnight followed by away games at Man United and then Spuds  Thats a tough run for sure
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 25, 2021, 10:37:22 PM
Who is the clueless female presenting the draw?

I blame the suffragettes. I always said giving them the vote was the thin end of the wedge.

Yeah, and what sort of colours are white, purple and green? That's nearly as bad as Norwich.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: Demitri_C on August 25, 2021, 10:39:42 PM
I dont think it will be on tv to be honest and i hope it isnt. The less tv coverage the more chance i think we have

No way will we go as weak as we did against barrow
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: lovejoy on August 25, 2021, 10:41:35 PM
I’d play the same team as Barrow - why not?
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: john e on August 25, 2021, 10:43:04 PM
Will we get a 6k allocation like last time
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: Colhint on August 25, 2021, 10:43:05 PM
Who is the clueless female presenting the draw?

What makes you think she's "clueless", her gender? She's literally reading out names of football teams, I'm not sure how you manage to gauge her levels of expertise from that.

Top man cd well said.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: Flin5tone on August 25, 2021, 10:43:06 PM
Let's put out our strongest team and try and get past them, we need to be going for the Cup as it's a realistic chance of European Football which the Club seems to crave.

Very hard to get it through the League so let's go all out and put the big guns out against Chelsea.

I expect a weakened side though and a 4/5/6 -0 Defeat. Shame
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 25, 2021, 10:43:53 PM
I’d play the same team as Barrow - why not?

Because I want to win a cup and that means playing the team that gives us the best chance of doing so. If we find out Chelsea are playing the kids we can play a similar team. If, as is more likely, they play a strong team then so should we.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: RamboandBruno on August 25, 2021, 10:44:12 PM
I’d play the same team as Barrow - why not?

Because as well as they played last night, that team would get well beaten by any current Chelsea side resembling the their first team.
If we’re serious about trying to go far in cup competitions, we have to play our strongest 11 in this one. 
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: Legion on August 25, 2021, 10:44:30 PM
I’d play the same team as Barrow - why not?

I wouldn't. Bit of a difference between Chelsea's Reserves and Barrow's Elite.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 25, 2021, 10:45:58 PM
I’d play the same team as Barrow - why not?

I wouldn't. Bit of a difference between Chelsea's Reserves and Barrow's Elite.

And I'm not sure it will be Chelsea's reserves, anyway. I imagine Steer and, maybe, Tuanzebe will be the only non-regulars. We might play whichever of Young/Targett isn't starting in the league, too.

I suppose there is a reasonable chance that at least two or three of the Barrow kids will be off on loan by then, anyway, rendering it a moot point.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on August 25, 2021, 10:46:45 PM
Chelsea's team from the Third Round last season...

Caballero, Azpilacueta, Tomari, Thiago Silva, Emerson, Barkley, Kovacic, Hudson-Odoi, Havertz, Mount, Abraham.

Ermm... they don't seem to play many kids.

Well... hopefully Barkley plays again.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: Meanwood Villa on August 25, 2021, 10:47:20 PM
He'll play the reserves again. Only time he hasn't in cup games was semi finals and final in 2020 league cup.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 25, 2021, 10:49:26 PM
Chelsea's team from the Third Round last season...

Caballero, Azpilacueta, Tomari, Thiago Silva, Emerson, Barkley, Kovacic, Hudson-Odoi, Havertz, Mount, Abraham.

Ermm... they don't seem to play many kids.

Well... hopefully Barkley plays again.

No jinxing!
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 25, 2021, 10:50:24 PM
He'll play the reserves again. Only time he hasn't in cup games was semi finals and final in 2020 league cup.

True, but how many times have we played a top team's first team in other cup games? There is no comparable fixture in the early rounds to guess our lineup by.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 draw.
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on August 25, 2021, 10:52:39 PM
Chelsea's team from the Third Round last season...

Caballero, Azpilacueta, Tomari, Thiago Silva, Emerson, Barkley, Kovacic, Hudson-Odoi, Havertz, Mount, Abraham.

Ermm... they don't seem to play many kids.

Well... hopefully Barkley plays again.

No jinxing!

7-2 Barkley variant is holding up a pint and winking at me.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: Meanwood Villa on August 25, 2021, 10:57:52 PM
He'll play the reserves again. Only time he hasn't in cup games was semi finals and final in 2020 league cup.

True, but how many times have we played a top team's first team in other cup games? There is no comparable fixture in the early rounds to guess our lineup by.

Hope he picks a full strength team but I am sceptical. I suspect Dean is like the majority of managers and prioritises the league massively. Which is bizarre when you consider how limited the opportunities to win honours are for the majority of clubs.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: aldridgeboy on August 25, 2021, 11:06:10 PM
^ absolutely this. Last years defeat to Stoke was one of our most disappointing results for me.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: john e on August 25, 2021, 11:14:03 PM
But how many tickets will we get
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 25, 2021, 11:14:18 PM
Who is the clueless female presenting the draw?

What makes you think she's "clueless", her gender? She's literally reading out names of football teams, I'm not sure how you manage to gauge her levels of expertise from that.

Caroline Barker - been involved with non-league football for many years as well as reporting on professional football. She was a director of Chelmsford City (Nigel Spink's original club) at one point.

Agreed she's definitely not 'clueless', or 'hot'.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: shirley_villan on August 25, 2021, 11:14:29 PM
Chelsea are playing Spurs on the Sunday before, so I presume our game will be on the Wednesday (22nd)?
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: KRS on August 25, 2021, 11:18:20 PM
We’ll go in to the game as underdogs for sure, but it will be a good test and experience for whichever starting XI Dean picks…every game is winnable so hopefully at least a good performance…and may be a good result.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 25, 2021, 11:20:55 PM
Chelsea are playing Spurs on the Sunday before, so I presume our game will be on the Wednesday (22nd)?

Good spot, I'd imagine you're right. They also have Man City the following Saturday lunchtime which could, hopefully, increase the chances of them resting a few.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 25, 2021, 11:23:54 PM
He'll play the reserves again. Only time he hasn't in cup games was semi finals and final in 2020 league cup.

True, but how many times have we played a top team's first team in other cup games? There is no comparable fixture in the early rounds to guess our lineup by.

Hope he picks a full strength team but I am sceptical. I suspect Dean is like the majority of managers and prioritises the league massively. Which is bizarre when you consider how limited the opportunities to win honours are for the majority of clubs.

He has tended to play quite a few first teamers, or at least fringe players. Even Quisling got a run out at Burton last season. I imagine the team will be short of full strength but a lot closer to it than it was yesterday. If the likes of Archer, the Chuckwle Brothers, Ramsey II and JPB are on loan by then, it may somewhat force his hand anyway.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: Brazilian Villain on August 25, 2021, 11:36:16 PM
Not an ideal draw but let's see what happens, hopefully Chelski have other priorities. Pissed off about Citeh getting another easy draw.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: Pete3206 on August 25, 2021, 11:36:35 PM
2 trips to Stamford Bridge in 10 days.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: Demitri_C on August 26, 2021, 05:45:37 AM
These draws are fixed. How donciteh always get easy teams.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: sid1964 on August 26, 2021, 06:11:46 AM
After we play Chelsea, We will be able to prioritise the league until January
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: chrisw1 on August 26, 2021, 06:41:52 AM
For me is should be Steer + full strength (1 or 2 outfield changes max). 

It may be a chance to rotate in the likes of Watkins, Targett etc if they're on the bench at that point.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: CT on August 26, 2021, 06:55:53 AM
Who is the clueless female presenting the draw?

Whenever she was on “Quest” during our championship years, she always brought some life to the presenting role. I’d rather listen to her any day than pricks like Murphy, Mills etc.

A clueless comment.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: Demitri_C on August 26, 2021, 07:07:59 AM
Who is the clueless female presenting the draw?

Whenever she was on “Quest” during our championship years, she always brought some life to the presenting role. I’d rather listen to her any day than pricks like Murphy, Mills etc.

A clueless comment.

Like men there are some good female pundits and some shit ones. Doesnt make it sexist or clueless its all amatter of opinion.

The person in question i have no idea if she is any good or not. I didnt see anything wrong with her yesterday though. I think alex scott is  a brilliant pundit better than those two clowns you mentioned. Mills and murphy are terrible
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: CT on August 26, 2021, 08:19:23 AM
Who is the clueless female presenting the draw?

Whenever she was on “Quest” during our championship years, she always brought some life to the presenting role. I’d rather listen to her any day than pricks like Murphy, Mills etc.

A clueless comment.

Like men there are some good female pundits and some shit ones. Doesnt make it sexist or clueless its all amatter of opinion.

The person in question i have no idea if she is any good or not. I didnt see anything wrong with her yesterday though. I think alex scott is  a brilliant pundit better than those two clowns you mentioned. Mills and murphy are terrible

I never mentioned anything about it being sexist.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: Mister E on August 26, 2021, 08:22:57 AM
These draws are fixed. How donciteh always get easy teams.
Really?
... like Chelsea drawing us as well, you mean?
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: Demitri_C on August 26, 2021, 08:28:33 AM
Who is the clueless female presenting the draw?

Whenever she was on “Quest” during our championship years, she always brought some life to the presenting role. I’d rather listen to her any day than pricks like Murphy, Mills etc.

A clueless comment.

Like men there are some good female pundits and some shit ones. Doesnt make it sexist or clueless its all amatter of opinion.

The person in question i have no idea if she is any good or not. I didnt see anything wrong with her yesterday though. I think alex scott is  a brilliant pundit better than those two clowns you mentioned. Mills and murphy are terrible

I never mentioned anything about it being sexist.

Was speaking generally 👍
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: Demitri_C on August 26, 2021, 08:29:22 AM
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Im talking about citeh.  How they do they always get easy draws at this stage.
These draws are fixed. How donciteh always get easy teams.
Really?
... like Chelsea drawing us as well, you mean?
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: Lastfootstamper on August 26, 2021, 08:46:14 AM
If you want to talk easy draws, I wouldn't say citeh had an easy one last season. Away at Burnley before Arsenal then manure. Unlike their opponents, who had a walkover in rd3, beat Chelsea on pens, then had only Stoke and Brentford keeping them from Wembley.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: Mister E on August 26, 2021, 08:52:24 AM
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Im talking about citeh.  How they do they always get easy draws at this stage.
These draws are fixed. How donciteh always get easy teams.
Really?
... like Chelsea drawing us as well, you mean?
Oh, right. So, it's a conspiracy theory involving just Citeh; not the Scab6 generally.
Okay; whatever.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 26, 2021, 08:58:13 AM
The draws aren't fixed. What a load of bollocks.

Surprised, as it isn't like the poster in question to believe mindless conspiracy theories...
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: Meanwood Villa on August 26, 2021, 08:59:48 AM
Of course the draw isn't fixed, it is literally blind luck. Unless the scab six draw each other they are always going to be favourites.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: Demitri_C on August 26, 2021, 09:06:56 AM
{alt}
Im talking about citeh.  How they do they always get easy draws at this stage.
These draws are fixed. How donciteh always get easy teams.
Really?
... like Chelsea drawing us as well, you mean?
Oh, right. So, it's a conspiracy theory involving just Citeh; not the Scab6 generally.
Okay; whatever.

It was tongue and cheek. Relax 🙄
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: Demitri_C on August 26, 2021, 09:08:41 AM
The draws aren't fixed. What a load of bollocks.

Surprised, as it isn't like the poster in question to believe mindless conspiracy theories...

What conspiracy theories?? Name all the conspiracies ive mentioned?

Utter bollocks
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: yammers on August 26, 2021, 09:08:49 AM
Who is the clueless female presenting the draw?

Whenever she was on “Quest” during our championship years, she always brought some life to the presenting role. I’d rather listen to her any day than pricks like Murphy, Mills etc.

A clueless comment.

Completely agree! She was presenting the game with Barrow the other night alongside Lee Hendrie and Glen Murray.  I quite enjoyed the chat and banter between them and she didn’t come across as clueless to me at all.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 26, 2021, 09:21:15 AM
The draws aren't fixed. What a load of bollocks.

Surprised, as it isn't like the poster in question to believe mindless conspiracy theories...

What conspiracy theories?? Name all the conspiracies ive mentioned?

Utter bollocks

Are you not an anti-vaxxer any more? Well, glad you've seen sense.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: Demitri_C on August 26, 2021, 09:22:40 AM
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The draws aren't fixed. What a load of bollocks.

Surprised, as it isn't like the poster in question to believe mindless conspiracy theories...

What conspiracy theories?? Name all the conspiracies ive mentioned?

Utter bollocks

Are you not an anti-vaxxer any more? Well, glad you've seen sense.

How can someone  be an anti vaxxer who has had the vaccine?

So as expected i didnt share any conspiracy theories.

This is a thread about the league cup not covid so lets keep it on subject
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 26, 2021, 09:23:35 AM
Good, then. So you're not an idiot, you just support the right of other idiots to endanger lives.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: Demitri_C on August 26, 2021, 09:26:39 AM
Good, then. So you're not an idiot, you just support the right of other idiots to endanger lives.

I support freedom of speech and choice just to correct you. I dont beleive in divide which is what happened.You can have vaccine and still have a different opinion from others

As i say this is  aleague cup thread. Plenty of covid threads if you want go discuss in one of those 🙂
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 26, 2021, 09:29:06 AM
Sure. I don't generally. Just annoys me when people put the "freedom" of conspiracy theory loving arseholes ahead of the freedom of vulnerable people to actually stay alive.

Freedom of speech is not the same as freedom to act with impunity regardless of how your actions may effect others. In any case, nobody with an IQ over single figures believes in total freedom of speech, anyway.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: shirley_villan on August 26, 2021, 09:35:36 AM
I know the date's still TBC, but if anyone is planning on going to the Chelsea game via Chiltern, there's engineering work taking place around Bicester late at night (after 23:35). The 22:33 from Marylebone to Brum isn't affected, but there's a bus replacement running for part of the journey for the last train back at 23:07.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: wolfman999 on August 26, 2021, 09:52:08 AM
Oh well. The only thing the Blues and the Baggies drew was a night off.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: sickbeggar on August 26, 2021, 10:08:39 AM
I'm usually for playing the kids in these fixtures but looking at it, I hope we play the first team for once. Chelsea have Tottenham away the game before and City at home the game after, so 2 hard games will mean they're likely to put the stiffs out, albeit the 200m stiffs . We have the plastic mancs the game after so i'd say concentrate on Everton at home and the Cup as the priorities.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 26, 2021, 10:30:47 AM
You'd hope we are physically fit enough to deal with three games in a week, anyway. I agree with sickbeggar (dafuq???)... we should go for it.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: Demitri_C on August 26, 2021, 10:51:28 AM
You'd hope we are physically fit enough to deal with three games in a week, anyway. I agree with sickbeggar (dafuq???)... we should go for it.

You would like to hope so we definitely lòoked alot mroe sharper against Newcastle.  Watford we looked ridiculous at points
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: john e on August 26, 2021, 11:15:01 AM
If we get a good allocation it will be a good game for those that can’t normally get away tickets
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: Drummond on August 26, 2021, 02:11:54 PM
I hope we go for it too. I hate it when we don't try.

Same team as the other night then! 😁

Just a quick, and somewhat late, comment...

When they were about to start the draw, the wankers at Sky displayed the numbers to look out for.... You can guess which clubs... Man City, Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea, Tottenham, Arsenal and....... West Ham!
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: Smithy on August 26, 2021, 02:19:33 PM
It's a real shame that we'll be playing a team that could rest their first-11 and still field team with half a dozen internationals.  I guess now it comes to down to whether Dean wants some more experience for the kids, or whether he wants us to try and win the whole thing, because as much as I loved watching the youngsters at Barrow, if we play the same sort of side at Chelsea we'll likely to go out.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: LeeB on August 26, 2021, 02:28:54 PM
It's a real shame that we'll be playing a team that could rest their first-11 and still field team with half a dozen internationals.  I guess now it comes to down to whether Dean wants some more experience for the kids, or whether he wants us to try and win the whole thing, because as much as I loved watching the youngsters at Barrow, if we play the same sort of side at Chelsea we'll likely to go out.

Yes, Nakamba needs to come off for Luiz for a start.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: RamboandBruno on August 26, 2021, 02:38:10 PM
It's a real shame that we'll be playing a team that could rest their first-11 and still field team with half a dozen internationals.  I guess now it comes to down to whether Dean wants some more experience for the kids, or whether he wants us to try and win the whole thing, because as much as I loved watching the youngsters at Barrow, if we play the same sort of side at Chelsea we'll likely to go out.

Yes, Nakamba needs to come off for Luiz for a start.

Could possibly get away with the keeper and defense that played at Barrow at a push, but otherwise McGinn luiz, Ings, Watkins, Bailey (if fit) buendia, all need to come back with the kids as options on the.
 bench.
I was speaking to Albion mate last night, who was really pissed off at the side they picked for the Arsenal game. Having virtually half your team being kids making their first team debuts against an established premier league side, is just not picking a competitive side and if I was one of their supporters who had paid I’d be seriously pissed off. What’s competitive is subjective of course and us doing the same against Barrow, with all due respect to them, is not the same. However, if we were to play that same side against Chelsea away, I would argue we were not picking a side that could compete and it would be totally unfair to the thousands that will presumably travel down.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: wittonwarrior on August 26, 2021, 03:13:26 PM
after travelling the world to get to Barrow we better compete and put out a first 11.- no more Moscow's ever.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: Drummond on August 26, 2021, 04:42:04 PM
Our starting 11 at Barrow cost £48m. (and there's was £0m).

Arsenal's against that lot was £250m! God knows what Chelsea's would be.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: sid1964 on August 27, 2021, 09:53:17 AM
Will the owners be paying for free coach travel ?
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: JD on August 27, 2021, 10:49:04 AM
Just f$%k the f#$kers.

I think it's good to play them early in the comp, they will have other things on their mind.

We will win, JPA scoring a worldly for the winner.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: Pete3206 on August 27, 2021, 10:49:44 AM
Will the owners be paying for free coach travel ?

Why would they?
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: Demitri_C on August 27, 2021, 10:51:15 AM
Just f$%k the f#$kers.

I think it's good to play them early in the comp, they will have other things on their mind.

We will win, JPA scoring a worldly for the winner.

Yea it is a possibility that go weak as 3rd round. But their b team is excellent too.  If we go with team that played barrow we wilm get trounced so we will have to fo stronger i think. I would still play archer though after his last game.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: N'ZMAV on August 27, 2021, 10:58:09 AM
wonder if Friedel will come in for Guzan?
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: wittonwarrior on August 27, 2021, 01:09:21 PM
Wednesday 22 nd 7:45. Come on you lions
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on August 27, 2021, 02:06:45 PM
Will the owners be paying for free coach travel ?

Why would they?

I reckon we should ask for the Barrow money back to pay for it.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 27, 2021, 03:07:57 PM
Chelsea game not on telly. Bugger.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: Three Spires Villa on August 27, 2021, 05:28:22 PM
Will the owners be paying for free coach travel ?

Why would they?

Because Randy did!
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: Demitri_C on August 27, 2021, 05:39:15 PM
Chelsea game not on telly. Bugger.

I think thats  better for us as the less coverage better chance for us.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 27, 2021, 05:41:42 PM
We've won our last three televised games, including one against Chelsea.
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 3 Chelsea away.
Post by: john e on August 28, 2021, 11:00:44 AM
Will the owners be paying for free coach travel ?

Why would they?

Because Randy did!

I went to that
Send him my return ticket from Milton Keynes Central he never paid up the tight bastard
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 4 draw.
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on September 19, 2021, 09:48:16 PM
4th round draw is made Wednesday night shortly after we beat Chelsea.

https://www.efl.com/news/2021/september/bowled-over-efl-announces-surprise-location-for-carabao-cup-round-four-draw/
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 4 draw.
Post by: Demitri_C on September 20, 2021, 05:37:10 AM
I wonder what sort of team will chelsea play?
Title: Re: League Cup 2021-22: Round 4 draw.
Post by: cdbearsfan on September 20, 2021, 08:53:01 AM
I don't like the new thread title, it is tempting fate. Please revert it until if/when we win.
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