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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Diablo on March 09, 2021, 02:16:15 PM

Title: Aston Villa Managerial Stats
Post by: Diablo on March 09, 2021, 02:16:15 PM
Can anyone help? Is there a record list of our managers and their win draw loss percentage stats (just with us/not with any other clubs later in their career) somewhere? Following a conversation today I was after Ron Saunders in particular (and ideally a comparison with Martin O'Neill) but then it got me thinking about how his record compared to our other managers.

The conversation that prompted my request was about "winning mentality and managers hating getting beat - eg Guardiola/ Mourinho and managers who didn't mind losing eg Arsene Wenger - the way he played weaker teams in the League Cup and Europa League).

So would Ron Saunders have sacrificed the UEFA Cup 2nd leg and rested 8 players as Martin O'Neill did?
Title: Re: Aston Villa Managerial Stats
Post by: Mister E on March 09, 2021, 04:17:26 PM
Here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Aston_Villa_F.C._managers
Title: Re: Aston Villa Managerial Stats
Post by: Legion on March 09, 2021, 09:22:23 PM
Garde and di Matteo. Wow.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Managerial Stats
Post by: Damo70 on March 09, 2021, 09:36:51 PM
Garde and di Matteo. Wow.

At the time Sherwood was sacked I felt he deserved more time and I remember thinking the same about di Matteo. But looking back at the stats I have no idea what I was thinking.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Managerial Stats
Post by: olaftab on March 09, 2021, 09:36:59 PM
Garde is forgivable Di Matteo not.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Managerial Stats
Post by: Joe S on March 09, 2021, 09:51:43 PM
Ron Saunders was the last to clock over 200 games.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Managerial Stats
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 09, 2021, 09:54:25 PM
Garde, Di Matteo, Sherwood all still under the age of 50 when leaving us and all appear to have done little since.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Managerial Stats
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 09, 2021, 09:55:40 PM
Ron Saunders was the last to clock over 200 games.

Graham Taylor 202 over two spells.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Managerial Stats
Post by: Diablo on March 10, 2021, 11:37:35 AM
Here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Aston_Villa_F.C._managers

Doh! Massive fail. Thanks Mister E. I initially searched for Ron Saunders and they weren't listed on his wiki page and I later saw Martin O'Neill had it on his wiki but didn't think to put in exactly what I was looking for.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Managerial Stats
Post by: N'ZMAV on March 10, 2021, 12:11:01 PM
Bruce's should have been higher - considering they was all in the Championship.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Managerial Stats
Post by: N'ZMAV on March 10, 2021, 12:12:14 PM
Clearly RDM and Garde were a waste of space
Title: Re: Aston Villa Managerial Stats
Post by: Drummond on March 10, 2021, 12:15:36 PM
Blimey, Dean Smith will be our longest serving since MON if he lasts another half a dozen games; it feels like he's only been with us 5 minutes.

As for win percentages, he's up in the 40s which is where the managers we look back on as successful have all been at. He's behind them all right now but given more time I think it will improve.

Title: Re: Aston Villa Managerial Stats
Post by: LeeB on March 10, 2021, 12:49:24 PM
Blimey, Dean Smith will be our longest serving since MON if he lasts another half a dozen games; it feels like he's only been with us 5 minutes.

As for win percentages, he's up in the 40s which is where the managers we look back on as successful have all been at. He's behind them all right now but given more time I think it will improve.



Time flies when you're having fun!
Title: Re: Aston Villa Managerial Stats
Post by: aj2k77 on March 10, 2021, 12:58:47 PM
Lambert the worst manager we've had out of those who we gave more than 100 games. Not surprising.

Surprised at how few managers we've had who didn't get 100 games. Just 11. For comparison (but not including short term appointments) the Bitters have had 31, the Rags have had 19. Hmmm fickle ehh?
Title: Re: Aston Villa Managerial Stats
Post by: PGW on March 10, 2021, 03:53:27 PM
Where's Mark Delaney on that list.....he's done a game ...Lol.

Should his 1 game count?
Title: Re: Aston Villa Managerial Stats
Post by: dcdavecollett on March 11, 2021, 01:35:15 AM
Probably not.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Managerial Stats
Post by: eamonn on March 11, 2021, 03:45:16 PM
Blimey, Dean Smith will be our longest serving since MON if he lasts another half a dozen games; it feels like he's only been with us 5 minutes.

As for win percentages, he's up in the 40s which is where the managers we look back on as successful have all been at. He's behind them all right now but given more time I think it will improve.



Time flies when you're having fun!

And the older you get.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Managerial Stats
Post by: Gerrin on March 11, 2021, 03:54:25 PM
Bruce's should have been higher - considering they was all in the Championship.

Do we know what Smith's Championship stats were?
Title: Re: Aston Villa Managerial Stats
Post by: aj2k77 on March 11, 2021, 04:38:32 PM
Bruce's should have been higher - considering they was all in the Championship.

Do we know what Smith's Championship stats were?

Including play offs

P 37
W 19
D 10
L 8
G 66
A 44
Win Ratio 51.35%
Title: Re: Aston Villa Managerial Stats
Post by: Ad@m on March 11, 2021, 11:43:48 PM
Clearly RDM and Garde were a waste of space

RDM would've been the highest on the list if games of football lasted 80 minutes!
Title: Re: Aston Villa Managerial Stats
Post by: London Villan on March 12, 2021, 06:22:04 AM
Gregory’s win % in interesting, better than MON and Little.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Managerial Stats
Post by: aj2k77 on March 12, 2021, 10:06:30 AM
Remember he had that fantastic start when he took over and the start to the next season. He won 25 of his first 34 games and then 57 of his next 156. A 36% win ratio for the last 150+ games is on par with O'Leary.
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