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Title: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 15, 2021, 01:00:30 PM
I was on an unbeaten run before I was hijacked :-).

I know it is early but I will say 2-1 to us and a nervy win.  It could well be a repeat of the 1-4 last season if Saturday's performance is anything to go by.  We will need to sit deep for this one to stop Mr Vardy and co attacking behind.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 15, 2021, 01:12:09 PM
The team selection is a real test for Smith, get it right and we have a chance.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: lovejoy on February 15, 2021, 01:13:42 PM
I can see a L on this one, they are in great form and we aren't.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: Bobby Boy on February 15, 2021, 01:16:38 PM
Watched their game against Liverpool on Saturday and they were second best for 70 minutes. Liverpool didn't give them any time on the ball so Maddison, Tielemans and Barnes couldn't get into the game.

I'm not sure that we have the midfield that can stop a team from playing. Grealish, Traore and Barkley offer little in protection so that falls to McGinn and Luiz.

The forward players have got to improve hugely from the Brighton game and if they do we can get a result.

Good that Leicester are playing in Prague on Thursday night too.

2-2.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: Risso on February 15, 2021, 01:26:11 PM
On current form they should smash us out of sight, but I cling to the hope that we've played well against the better teams, including beating these last time.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: Drummond on February 15, 2021, 02:32:46 PM
Elmo, Trez, Sanson and Ramsay in for Cash, Traore, McGinn and Barkley would be my choice. However, there's no way we're making 4 changes.

So I think it'll be the enforced change and then Trez in on the right, Traore where Barkley has been playing and that'll be it. Sanson on for McGinn after an hour.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: brontebilly on February 15, 2021, 02:54:55 PM
Going to be a huge team selection for Smith. I think he simply has to show some authority and faith in the squad. If he doesn't then I don't think it will go down well in the dressing room.

A couple of the big names/asses to be dropped. With Cash out, I firmly expect Trez will come in and support Elmo on the right. I don't think he will drop both Barkley and McGinn so I suspect Rosco will be  one to sit it out. Sanson or Ramsey to come in.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: darren woolley on February 15, 2021, 02:59:36 PM
2-1 Villa win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: CT on February 15, 2021, 03:11:53 PM
We need a real freshen up of the midfield in a game that will require much higher energy levels than we’ve shown recently.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: rob_bridge on February 15, 2021, 03:18:27 PM
They are in form and very good away from home. We need to be at our best and we haven't been for a good while. Probably Palace game
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: Dave P on February 15, 2021, 03:31:52 PM
It's my 40th birthday on Sunday.  I'm sure the Villa will find a way of royally messing it up!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: manic-road on February 15, 2021, 03:32:19 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if we put in another poor home performance against these, 1-3.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: Footy-Vill on February 15, 2021, 03:37:54 PM
It's my 40th birthday on Sunday.  I'm sure the Villa will find a way of royally messing it up!

Many happy returns!
Enjoy the cake,  day and match.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: Dave P on February 15, 2021, 03:40:16 PM
It's my 40th birthday on Sunday.  I'm sure the Villa will find a way of royally messing it up!

Many happy returns!
Enjoy the cake,  day and match.

I’ll try to. Thanks mate.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: Brend'Watkins on February 15, 2021, 03:53:33 PM
I doubt they'll be doubling up on Jack like Brighton did so we will have something of a threat going forward.  can't see us being as poor as on Saturday either.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: LeeB on February 15, 2021, 04:14:37 PM
It looked like the pitch was really heavy and uneven, and the grass was too long, but only when we had the ball.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: Nev on February 15, 2021, 05:18:27 PM
Hope to see a few changes, we need a shake up but that in itself is dangerous. It won't be the end of the world but I can see defeat here, it will be no disgrace of course and I can still see us smiling before long.

1-3
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: Legion on February 15, 2021, 05:46:09 PM
0-2.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: eamonn on February 15, 2021, 06:13:57 PM
Vardy to score at least one and destroy a corner flag at the Holt, the fcuking weasel.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: VILLA MOLE on February 15, 2021, 06:22:51 PM
Vardy to score at least one and destroy a corner flag at the Holt, the fcuking weasel.


Full name please rat face weasel
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: Steve67 on February 15, 2021, 10:13:50 PM
Is this on the telly box?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 15, 2021, 10:15:27 PM
Sky sports.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: RamboandBruno on February 16, 2021, 07:20:20 AM
Stating the obvious, but extremely tough game. I never really back against villa and won’t do so here, but struggle to see us getting anything. Our performance levels from the midfield in particular was really poor against Brighton and West Ham, but not particularly inspiring in wins against Southampton and Arsenal. I also think the edge starting coming out of our play as early as the 2nd half against Newcastle, with the only really positive performance attacking wise in that run of games since, being the first half against Burnley.
If Cash is out. I think Smith will have to sacrifice Traore, to bring in Trez to support Elmo against Barnes. I would also give Sanson a go as a straight swap for Barclay to see if that gives us much needed energy further forwards.
A nervy backs to the wall 1-1 at best (Watkins).
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: Mister E on February 16, 2021, 08:28:32 AM
Vardy to score at least one and destroy a corner flag at the Holt, the fcuking weasel.
Full name please rat face weasel
Full name please - Holte.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: wittonwarrior on February 16, 2021, 09:17:51 AM
We struggle against their pace so 0-2 - have to be proved wrong
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: Risso on February 16, 2021, 10:29:36 AM
Vardy to score at least one and destroy a corner flag at the Holt, the fcuking weasel.


Full name please rat face weasel

Steptoe Rat-faced Weasel
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: Chris Smith on February 16, 2021, 11:03:10 AM
They’re in form, we’re not. In this perverse season it probably translates to 2-0 to us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: eamonn on February 16, 2021, 12:49:44 PM
Vardy to score at least one and destroy a corner flag at the Holt, the fcuking weasel.
Full name please rat face weasel
Full name please - Holte.

Sorry, autocorrect.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: Three Spires Villa on February 16, 2021, 01:06:53 PM
This is going to be a tough game, and if I am honest I don't fancy us to get a result. I would start Sanson and I would prefer Jack in the middle, but neither of those will probably happen.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: SamTheMouse on February 16, 2021, 04:31:32 PM
We're certainly good enough to beat them, but if Vardy plays I think we'll struggle

He makes a massive difference.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: aj2k77 on February 16, 2021, 05:59:40 PM
Trezeguet and Sanson in. Barkley and Traore out. Will need additional graft for Leicester. Can approach another game with less than all 11 fulfilling attacking and defensive duties.

I'd take a point.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: TelfordVilla on February 16, 2021, 06:12:20 PM
We're certainly good enough to beat them, but if Vardy plays I think we'll struggle
He makes a massive difference.                                 
                                                                                           
 what the hello is this about. We have already beaten them this season and knocked them out of the cup over two legs when we were shit last season. Of course we are good enough to beat them....and everyone else in this premier league too.....except maybe man city.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: markeeeebeeee2005 on February 16, 2021, 06:27:56 PM
We're certainly good enough to beat them, but if Vardy plays I think we'll struggle
He makes a massive difference.                                 
                                                                                           
 what the hello is this about. We have already beaten them this season and knocked them out of the cup over two legs when we were shit last season. Of course we are good enough to beat them....and everyone else in this premier league too.....except maybe man city.

What the hello are you talking about? 👋🏽

I’ll go for a 2-2 draw. With Konsa and Dougie scoring for us and Vardy getting a very early goal and a very late goal for them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: TelfordVilla on February 16, 2021, 08:01:10 PM
I've no idea what I'm talking about. Apologies to all. I blame the golf course being shut causing a lack of air to my head. Please ignore me....I know you usually do.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: Sexual Ealing on February 16, 2021, 08:24:31 PM
Vardy to score at least one and destroy a corner flag at the Holt, the fcuking weasel.


Full name please rat face weasel

Steptoe Rat-faced Weasel

He’s my favourite non-Villa player. I wish he was my favourite Villa player!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: Bad English on February 16, 2021, 10:13:46 PM
FTOFIICBBTCEF! 3-1

Fuck the oh fuck it I can't be bothered today crisp-eating fuckers
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: J on February 16, 2021, 11:20:29 PM
One thing in our favour is that they're playing in Prague tomorrow night so might not be too fresh. I'd still take a draw.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: robbo1874 on February 17, 2021, 02:01:46 AM
Happily take a point and a clean sheet for this. We’ll do well to get something out of this game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: robbo1874 on February 17, 2021, 02:23:29 AM
Certainly be interesting to see how Smith approaches this one. I know his mantra is to set up to win every game, but we need to solidify the midfield I reckon. Nakamba in for Barkley.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: sid1964 on February 17, 2021, 10:04:04 AM
This will be tough - can’t see us winning so hopefully a draw

No doubt our old mate Vardy will score in front of the Holte
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: Dr Butler on February 17, 2021, 10:38:50 AM
Leicester nil please Villa

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: Brend'Watkins on February 17, 2021, 10:52:33 AM
I forgot they play Thursday in the Europa away. That might work against them...not that it bothered Brighton in the last game mind. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: in exile on February 17, 2021, 11:51:46 AM
Ah yes, the mist is clearing...I see a 2-2 draw.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: OCD on February 17, 2021, 11:59:13 AM
I forgot they play Thursday in the Europa away. That might work against them...not that it bothered Brighton in the last game mind. 

Leicester really struggled for about 60 minutes against Liverpool having played a midweek game that Liverpool hadn't. It will certainly work in our favour that we've had a week to prepare for them and they will have had a couple of days. Whether we get anything depends whether Jekyll or Hyde show up.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: markeeeebeeee2005 on February 17, 2021, 01:03:12 PM
I've no idea what I'm talking about. Apologies to all. I blame the golf course being shut causing a lack of air to my head. Please ignore me....I know you usually do.

Same for me. But it’s the climbing wall rather than the golf course. 😊
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 17, 2021, 06:17:33 PM
Having had a week off last week we looked as lethargic as I can recall this season last Saturday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: Meanwood Villa on February 17, 2021, 06:22:22 PM
Didn't see Saturday's game but it is apparent we were crap. With no logic other than we've been up and down lately, I fancy us to win Sunday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: Pete3206 on February 17, 2021, 06:32:37 PM
They'll tear us a new one. 

0-3
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: Ian. on February 17, 2021, 06:47:15 PM
I’ve never looked forward to playing Leicester since Little was in charge of us. However the last game was great, we looked so comfortable against them. Last season before Lockdown must be a warning to the boss and team of what they are very capable of.

Can’t call it, when we lose we tend to get tonked, so either 3-0 them or 2-0 us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: Ads on February 17, 2021, 07:42:29 PM
Think we'll get beat comfortably 3 or 4-1 here. Elmo to be ripped to shreds, Barkely to start and be anonymous, midfield to get outmuscled.

A very bad day at the office I forecast.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: N'ZMAV on February 17, 2021, 07:53:17 PM
not looking forward to this game
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: Sexual Ealing on February 17, 2021, 07:56:27 PM
Think we'll get beat comfortably 3 or 4-1 here. Elmo to be ripped to shreds, Barkely to start and be anonymous, midfield to get outmuscled.

A very bad day at the office I forecast.

Fucking hell Ads. If you think that then I reckon it'll be a cricket score!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: Bobby Boy on February 17, 2021, 08:00:24 PM
Think we'll get beat comfortably 3 or 4-1 here. Elmo to be ripped to shreds, Barkely to start and be anonymous, midfield to get outmuscled.

A very bad day at the office I forecast.

If the fears about Elmo are proven right then letting Guilbert go out on loan feels increasingly odd.

I know that players improve in our minds when they are not playing but Guilbert was quick at least and quickness is everything in this league.

Elmo, one on one against a pacy winger is a scary thought.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: Risso on February 17, 2021, 08:21:14 PM
Yes, strange decision to let Guilbert go, for this exact reason.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: RamboandBruno on February 17, 2021, 08:34:06 PM
For whatever reason Smith doesn’t fancy Guilbett, could be something he sees in training, something to do with his attitude, who knows frankly. The reality is he’s our 3rd choice right back, so it really isn’t that strange to let him go on loan, I don’t even know who are 3rd choice left back is?
Elmo may may we’ll get torn apart by Barnes on Sunday, I said earlier in the thread he’ll probably need Trez in front of him to support. However, I don’t remember Guilbert pulling up any trees against them when we got hammered at their place in March.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: Allan C on February 17, 2021, 08:41:46 PM
I don’t believe I’m reading some of the comments. We’re 8th not 18th  I’m thinking
1-1 possibly 2-1 to us  don’t care who scores
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: eamonn on February 17, 2021, 09:54:55 PM
Think we'll get beat comfortably 3 or 4-1 here. Elmo to be ripped to shreds, Barkely to start and be anonymous, midfield to get outmuscled.

A very bad day at the office I forecast.

Fucking hell Ads. If you think that then I reckon it'll be a cricket score!

Whe  Ads and Paul E say anything negative about us, you know it's serious.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: JUAN PABLO on February 17, 2021, 09:57:54 PM
we have been well below par lately . Jack looks shagged and Barkley just a waste of a player . They have been inform. Freshen it up with morgan coming in , maybe even Jacob to come in , Id stick with Bertie .     So Villa win then ...    1-0
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: robbo1874 on February 18, 2021, 02:40:47 AM
I don’t believe I’m reading some of the comments. We’re 8th not 18th  I’m thinking
1-1 possibly 2-1 to us  don’t care who scores
hope you’re right I’d definitely take 1-1 if it was offered now. I think most of the doom and gloom posts (mine included) are based on the clubs’ recent form. We’re in an inconsistent run where we’re winning and losing and that cycle was only broken by the 0-0 with Brighton. Conversely, Leicester seem to be flying right now. Crazy season though, anything can happen.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 18, 2021, 04:13:13 AM
Teams do fatigue unexpectedly, we have to hope the recent build up of a game every 4 days will
Impact Leicester against our fixture schedule.
Smith has to get the selection and strategy right as another defeat will cement a decent but mid table season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: Drummond on February 18, 2021, 08:40:10 AM
We've had a tough run but this is the perfect game to get going again. One game in a fortnight means training should have been good and players more up to speed and suitably rested too.

Let's not get back to the defeatist attitude of Villa over the past decade, we are a match for anyone on our day. We can do this.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: Baldy on February 18, 2021, 10:11:04 AM
We have reached the crossroad. Settle for mid table mediocrity or challenge for the top 6?

Based on our last few performances some players think we have achieved our goal this season, cemented our position in the league and it is time for a holiday!!

Man City aside, we are a match for any team in this league and should be looking to end as high as possible. West Ham have got the 'bit between the teeth' and are going for it. So should we.

The Leicester match is pivotal. With hardwork, grit and our quality we can beat this lot. Trez and El Ghazi had fantastic runs earlier in the season and deserve another chance. Trez in for Traore (we need the cover for Elmo) and El Ghazi in for Barkley. We can't solely judge El Ghazi on his last 45 minutes and he does have the 'bit between the teeth'.

Deano, this match, your team selection and formation will tell us what turn we are taking at this crossroad. For me, it is:

                            Martinez

Elmo         Mings                   Konsa          Targett

Trez          McGinn                 Luiz             El Ghazi

                            Jack (floating)
                                           
                                           Watkins   

 Subs to include Barkley, Traore, Sanson, Engels, Nakamba, Heaton, Davis ....

No room for passengers or luxury players in this game. Just true grit. 1-0 to Villa (Barkley- Impact Sub). :)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: stubbsyandy on February 18, 2021, 10:33:18 AM
Just win!! Not too concerned how just get this team winning and get our confidence back
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2pm.
Post by: exigo on February 18, 2021, 01:01:23 PM
We'll be 5 minutes more rested. Kick-off changed to 2:05 for some reason or other.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Legion on February 18, 2021, 02:58:21 PM
KO time changed to 2.05pm.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on February 18, 2021, 03:11:34 PM
Oh no,  I've already registered my guess the goal prediction.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: TelfordVilla on February 18, 2021, 03:46:44 PM
I would go with Baldy's line up, possibly Sanson for SJM, but I dont think Deano will drop Barkley.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Bobby Boy on February 18, 2021, 04:20:20 PM
I would go with Baldy's line up, possibly Sanson for SJM, but I dont think Deano will drop Barkley.

If Dean sold Villa to Barkley on the basis that he could get back into the England set up for the Euros then it would seem unlikely that he will bench him 3 or 4 months away from the tournament regardless of his form.

However all that should matter is Villa. I'm certain that Barkley will start on Sunday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 18, 2021, 04:28:02 PM
Starting Barkley will be a huge mistake. It will send out all the wrong signals and undermine what should be a meritocracy.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Drummond on February 18, 2021, 04:49:03 PM
Starting Barkley will be a huge mistake. It will send out all the wrong signals and undermine what should be a meritocracy.

Unless of course he's trained really well and shown what he can do.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 18, 2021, 05:01:23 PM
Starting Barkley will be a huge mistake. It will send out all the wrong signals and undermine what should be a meritocracy.

Unless of course he's trained really well and shown what he can do.
He was awful last week and I have a suspicion that if any one else put in the last 2 performances that Barkley has, they would be benched. I think it’s very bad for team morale if he is treated as a special case.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on February 18, 2021, 05:27:14 PM
Leicester have picked a full strength team in Prague tonight.

I’m taking that as good news.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: N'ZMAV on February 18, 2021, 06:21:41 PM
I thought it was good news to see all their best players starting.

Hopefully a few of them are tired for Sunday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Ads on February 19, 2021, 08:41:44 AM
Apparently they were absolutely wrecthed too.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: RamboandBruno on February 19, 2021, 09:18:17 AM
They took off Vardy and Maddison after 60 mins, presumably so their fresh for Sunday. They are a very good team, but Sunday is just as much about what we do. We don’t tend to play a really high line defensively and sitting deeper would make more sense against Barnes and Vardy’s pace. But that does mean the gap between defence and Watkins has to be bridged more effectively than it has been recently, lumping long balls to Watkins in the hope it sticks will just play into the hands of Evans etc and will allow their quality in midfield to hit us quickly on the counter. We have to play through the lines better, it’s been well said on here, but unless Smith and the coaches have seen a transformation in training this week, Sanson to come in for Barclay, just add more energy to the middle and don’t allow Maddison and Tielemans to dictate the play with ease. Jacks also been coming too deep to get the ball lately as well, always a sign we’re not playing well. Trez in for Traore. Having Traore and Barclay to come on when the game is more stretched, seems quite an attractive proposition to me.

                     Martinez
Elmo.      Konsa.     Mings.     Targett

              Luiz.         McGinn

Trez.                Sanson.       Grealish

                        Watkins
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Risso on February 19, 2021, 09:33:27 AM
I'd be tempted to swap McGinn and Sanson in that formation, Rambo.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Ads on February 19, 2021, 09:39:26 AM
Or push them both into a press. You smother the midfield and stop early transition to Vardy.

Interestingly and depressingly reading a Leicester forum, they said Vardy shouldn't start as he's an old man now and can't be run into the ground. An old man. He's 34. I'm 34 *looks into the distance, tears in eyes*.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: ROBBO on February 19, 2021, 09:40:07 AM
Cannot fathom why he persists with JM in midfield defence, he would be far more effective closer to goal.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Risso on February 19, 2021, 09:42:19 AM
Or push them both into a press. You smother the midfield and stop early transition to Vardy.

Interestingly and depressingly reading a Leicester forum, they said Vardy shouldn't start as he's an old man now and can't be run into the ground. An old man. He's 34. I'm 34 *looks into the distance, tears in eyes*.

I wasn't married, and had no kids at 34.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: RamboandBruno on February 19, 2021, 09:59:08 AM
I'd be tempted to swap McGinn and Sanson in that formation, Rambo.

You could be well be right on that. To be honest don’t know enough about Sanson, so just hoping he has ability and runs round more than Barclay, which won’t be hard on current showing. I do miss the old McGinn rampaging forwards.
I’m 47 tomorrow, 34 seems like a golden youthful age!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Risso on February 19, 2021, 10:14:13 AM
I'd be tempted to swap McGinn and Sanson in that formation, Rambo.

You could be well be right on that. To be honest don’t know enough about Sanson, so just hoping he has ability and runs round more than Barclay, which won’t be hard on current showing. I do miss the old McGinn rampaging forwards.
I’m 47 tomorrow, 34 seems like a golden youthful age!!

Happy birthday for tomorrow!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: RamboandBruno on February 19, 2021, 10:17:02 AM
Cheers, a villa win on Sunday would make the weekend
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: OCD on February 19, 2021, 11:52:44 AM
Interestingly and depressingly reading a Leicester forum, they said Vardy shouldn't start as he's an old man now and can't be run into the ground. An old man. He's 34. I'm 34 *looks into the distance, tears in eyes*.

34 for a Premier League player, who has been dependent on their pace, is no spring chicken. That's the sort of terrority where you would be looking to have someone younger as a starter and to use him as an impact player from the bench. At least that's how I look at it so to not despair.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: taylorsworkrate on February 19, 2021, 12:04:36 PM
Or push them both into a press. You smother the midfield and stop early transition to Vardy.

Interestingly and depressingly reading a Leicester forum, they said Vardy shouldn't start as he's an old man now and can't be run into the ground. An old man. He's 34. I'm 34 *looks into the distance, tears in eyes*.

I too am 34. I suspect that Mr Vardy is probably in slightly better shape than myself.......
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Brend'Watkins on February 19, 2021, 12:13:28 PM

Interestingly and depressingly reading a Leicester forum, they said Vardy shouldn't start as he's an old man now and can't be run into the ground. An old man. He's 34. I'm 34 *looks into the distance, tears in eyes*.

Behave yourself..in my mind you've just about finished University.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Drummond on February 19, 2021, 12:23:01 PM
At 49 I'm more than old enough to be a grandfather to some of our younger players. Yet still I try and do the 5-a-side, hardly a surprise I have to rely on anything I've got other than pace.

At 34 I'd have been past it too
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Meanwood Villa on February 19, 2021, 12:40:44 PM
Gareth Barry was our first player younger than me. Suffice to say they all are now. My Dad tells me it gets worse, as the managers and then owners become younger than you.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Risso on February 19, 2021, 01:04:03 PM
At 49 I'm more than old enough to be a grandfather to some of our younger players. Yet still I try and do the 5-a-side, hardly a surprise I have to rely on anything I've got other than pace.

At 34 I'd have been past it too

Same age as you Drummond, and likewise not exactly Watkins quick around the 5 aside pitch. Reckon I'd have Ross McCormack in a race though!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: OCD on February 19, 2021, 01:13:47 PM
I was more annoyed when I read yesterday that a 23-year old Billionaire heir had bought Sunderland. I'm old enough to be his father and he now owns a club the size of Sunderland.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: DrGonzo on February 19, 2021, 01:28:32 PM
I was more annoyed when I read yesterday that a 23-year old Billionaire heir had bought Sunderland. I'm old enough to be his father and he now owns a club the size of Sunderland.

Is the club the same size as the city?

Could be a corker. I predict a cricket score.  Who to though remains to be seen.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Sexual Ealing on February 19, 2021, 01:46:01 PM
Or push them both into a press. You smother the midfield and stop early transition to Vardy.

Interestingly and depressingly reading a Leicester forum, they said Vardy shouldn't start as he's an old man now and can't be run into the ground. An old man. He's 34. I'm 34 *looks into the distance, tears in eyes*.

I wasn't married, and had no kids at 34.

I was 43 on 11th February, and I reckon I could do Vardy in a vodka & Skittles contest.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: RamboandBruno on February 19, 2021, 02:34:53 PM
Or push them both into a press. You smother the midfield and stop early transition to Vardy.

Interestingly and depressingly reading a Leicester forum, they said Vardy shouldn't start as he's an old man now and can't be run into the ground. An old man. He's 34. I'm 34 *looks into the distance, tears in eyes*.

I wasn't married, and had no kids at 34.

I was 43 on 11th February, and I reckon I could do Vardy in a vodka & Skittles contest.
I dunno, according to my soon to be 11 year old lad, who looks at this kind of nonsense on the internet, Vardy is still partial to red bull and fags. I can picture a pre pandemic Vardy, smoking a tab outside his local spoons.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Sexual Ealing on February 19, 2021, 02:40:13 PM
Or push them both into a press. You smother the midfield and stop early transition to Vardy.

Interestingly and depressingly reading a Leicester forum, they said Vardy shouldn't start as he's an old man now and can't be run into the ground. An old man. He's 34. I'm 34 *looks into the distance, tears in eyes*.

I wasn't married, and had no kids at 34.

I was 43 on 11th February, and I reckon I could do Vardy in a vodka & Skittles contest.
I dunno, according to my soon to be 11 year old lad, who looks at this kind of nonsense on the internet, Vardy is still partial to red bull and fags. I can picture a pre pandemic Vardy, smoking a tab outside his local spoons.

Rambo, you'd need to meet me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: RamboandBruno on February 19, 2021, 02:42:13 PM
Or push them both into a press. You smother the midfield and stop early transition to Vardy.

Interestingly and depressingly reading a Leicester forum, they said Vardy shouldn't start as he's an old man now and can't be run into the ground. An old man. He's 34. I'm 34 *looks into the distance, tears in eyes*.

I wasn't married, and had no kids at 34.

I was 43 on 11th February, and I reckon I could do Vardy in a vodka & Skittles contest.
I dunno, according to my soon to be 11 year old lad, who looks at this kind of nonsense on the internet, Vardy is still partial to red bull and fags. I can picture a pre pandemic Vardy, smoking a tab outside his local spoons.

Rambo, you'd need to meet me.

Ha, fair play. 😊👏
I need to meet anyone, anywhere after 12 months of this. Drove past VP earlier, God I miss going down now
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Sexual Ealing on February 19, 2021, 02:51:38 PM
Very true, and I'm lucky not to be under lockdown. Here's to the vaccines working and getting back there.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Leicester_Villian on February 19, 2021, 04:24:03 PM
Anybody heard rumour that Jack is out with a shin injury?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Dave P on February 19, 2021, 04:48:50 PM
Anybody heard rumour that Jack is out with a shin injury?

Stuff on Twitter but nothing confirmed
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: wince on February 19, 2021, 05:15:51 PM

Sanson to come in for Barclay,       
                       
   

You can bank on it
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Dinas_Caerdydd on February 19, 2021, 09:40:54 PM
looking forward to watching this one on the box. Leicester a great side to watch for a neutral .  Sitting on the fence and think it will be a score draw 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Legion on February 19, 2021, 10:23:59 PM
looking forward to watching this one on the box. Leicester a great side to watch for a neutral .  Sitting on the fence and think it will be a score draw 

I'd take that result right now.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: algy on February 19, 2021, 10:33:10 PM
Or push them both into a press. You smother the midfield and stop early transition to Vardy.

Interestingly and depressingly reading a Leicester forum, they said Vardy shouldn't start as he's an old man now and can't be run into the ground. An old man. He's 34. I'm 34 *looks into the distance, tears in eyes*.
I was genuinely depressed on my 38th birthday (last year) when I finally accepted that my chance to play for Villa had finally passed me by. I mean, the total lack of pace, coordination, or indeed any foorballing ability whatsoever was hard to take .... but the realisation that I now definitely didn't have the stamina either, which was my one remaining hope, absolutely killed me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Legion on February 19, 2021, 10:35:08 PM
I'm 49. 50 next month. Never had any of those qualities or attributes.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: eamonn on February 19, 2021, 10:42:22 PM
At 49 I'm more than old enough to be a grandfather to some of our younger players.

A 49 year old grandad to...an 18 year old? Sorry, I'm not having it. Face it Drumm. You are young.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on February 20, 2021, 07:35:40 AM
looking forward to watching this one on the box. Leicester a great side to watch for a neutral .  Sitting on the fence and think it will be a score draw 

 With 300 posts on here you can't be neutral.
Anyway, I've looked at your fixtures and we won't be neutral for your penultimate game of the season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: stubbsyandy on February 20, 2021, 08:12:08 AM
Or push them both into a press. You smother the midfield and stop early transition to Vardy.

Interestingly and depressingly reading a Leicester forum, they said Vardy shouldn't start as he's an old man now and can't be run into the ground. An old man. He's 34. I'm 34 *looks into the distance, tears in eyes*.
I was genuinely depressed on my 38th birthday (last year) when I finally accepted that my chance to play for Villa had finally passed me by. I mean, the total lack of pace, coordination, or indeed any foorballing ability whatsoever was hard to take .... but the realisation that I now definitely didn't have the stamina either, which was my one remaining hope, absolutely killed me

You could still do a job across the city...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: eamonn on February 20, 2021, 09:23:34 AM
Dean mentioned Engels in a positive sense a couple of times in his presser. I just wonder...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: N'ZMAV on February 20, 2021, 11:12:46 AM
I'm surprised Engels is still with us. Dean clearly doesn't fancy him, or something has gone on there.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: LukeJames on February 20, 2021, 11:47:53 AM
I liked most the bits I saw of Engels, this fixture does bring up bad memories of him being skinned by Vardy for one of Leicesters goals in the 1-4, he looked as if he was running in treacle for that one.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: thick_mike on February 20, 2021, 12:01:35 PM
Worry is that Barnes has pace to burn and is bang in form. Important to have Trez on the right hand side to support Elmo, or play Elmo further forward with Konsa RB and bring in Engels. I’ve not got a good feeling about this one
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Sexual Ealing on February 20, 2021, 12:10:41 PM
I liked most the bits I saw of Engels, this fixture does bring up bad memories of him being skinned by Vardy for one of Leicesters goals in the 1-4, he looked as if he was running in treacle for that one.

Wasn't his last involvement that brain fart Vs Spurs?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: LukeJames on February 20, 2021, 12:22:30 PM
I think hitting the post against Man City was probably the last thing he did for us.... Unless he played in the 4-0 at Leicester.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: RamboandBruno on February 20, 2021, 12:40:10 PM
He scored against Spurs, one of the few headers I can remember us scoring direct from a corner in recent years, then like sexual Ealing says, had that enormous brain fart, not sure I’ve had many moments leaving villa park, feeling as low.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: walsall villain on February 20, 2021, 12:59:17 PM
He scored against Spurs, one of the few headers I can remember us scoring direct from a corner in recent years, then like sexual Ealing says, had that enormous brain fart, not sure I’ve had many moments leaving villa park, feeling as low.
That’s exactly how I felt. It was the moment that sealed our relegation for me but somehow it didn’t in the end. We played some of our best football that day and still lost.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Mister E on February 20, 2021, 01:32:41 PM
I think this is the game where our lack of formation-experimentation this season will be exposed. If we are to be without JG, we should be looking at playing differently: I'm not sure we will. I suspect we'll play either Trez or AEG wide left and hope that  it's just as normal.
It won't be. Without JG, Barkley will be even less effective.
I'd like to see Ramsey and Sanson come in for JG and Barkley, keeping it tight ad looking for the Watkins and Traore runs through the channels.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Footy-Vill on February 20, 2021, 01:56:05 PM
Dean mentioned Engels in a positive sense a couple of times in his presser. I just wonder...

Yes. Though I heard in training Engels and Traroe had a run in. Something about being punched and a chip finish.
:Engel Bert thump and dink. Is the headline
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Baldy on February 20, 2021, 02:30:05 PM
Dean mentioned Engels in a positive sense a couple of times in his presser. I just wonder...

Yes. Though I heard in training Engels and Traroe had a run in. Something about being punched and a chip finish.
:Engel Bert thump and dink. Is the headline

Like it Footy, like it  :) :)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Drummond on February 20, 2021, 02:45:33 PM
He's not directly replaceable obviously...

But if Grealish is out I'd go

               Martinez

Elmo Konsa Mings Targett

            Luiz McGinn

Trez      Sanson    Watkins

               Davis

Alternatively, I'd have Watkins right and Traore left.

That way we have energy, an out ball and someone who can hold it up for the others.

You'd be able to switch formation too.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: algy on February 20, 2021, 04:23:47 PM
Dean mentioned Engels in a positive sense a couple of times in his presser. I just wonder...

Yes. Though I heard in training Engels and Traroe had a run in. Something about being punched and a chip finish.
:Engel Bert thump and dink. Is the headline
Very good.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: aj2k77 on February 20, 2021, 04:27:21 PM
He's not directly replaceable obviously...

But if Grealish is out I'd go

               Martinez

Elmo Konsa Mings Targett

            Luiz McGinn

Trez      Sanson    Watkins

               Davis

Alternatively, I'd have Watkins right and Traore left.

That way we have energy, an out ball and someone who can hold it up for the others.

You'd be able to switch formation too.

Unfortunately we'd also have a centre forward who can't hit a cows arse with a banjo.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: algy on February 20, 2021, 04:46:07 PM
Not sure why you'd want anything other than Ollie playing as centre forward. The guy is scoring goals for fun at the moment.

Assuming no Jack pr Cash, I'd go

Martinez
Elmo - Konsa - Mings - Targett
Douglas - Nakamba
Trez - Barkley - AEG
Watkins

Traore & SJM benched, to be brought on 2nd half.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: RamboandBruno on February 20, 2021, 04:58:40 PM
If, if Grealish is out, I think it changes a lot in terms of any potential changes Smith might of been considering. Whether Barclays form is poor and Traores mixed or not, there is no way for me, Smith loses Grealish, Barclay and Traore from the starting line up, it completely nullifies the majority of support that Watkins has had this season.
If Jack is out, I think Traore will have to start on the left with Trez on the right and Barclay having one more chance to step up behind Watkins.

If the Grealish rumours are true

                 Martinez

Elmo.          Konsa.  Mings.    Targett

                   Luiz.     McGinn

Trez.                  Barclay.        Traore

                          Watkins
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Ads on February 20, 2021, 05:25:15 PM
If Jack is out;

Martinez

Targett
Mings
Konsa
Elmo

Luiz

Sanson
McGinn

Traore
Watkins
Trez
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: taylorsworkrate on February 20, 2021, 05:27:58 PM
If Jack is out;

Martinez

Targett
Mings
Konsa
Elmo

Luiz

Sanson
McGinn

Traore
Watkins
Trez

Yep, thats what I'd go with too, McGinn with the freedom to get further forward.

Barkleys poor form doesnt justify a place in the team for me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Lastfootstamper on February 20, 2021, 06:19:07 PM
Maybe keep Traore on the right, bring in Ramsey on the left. Deffo the 3 in midfield.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: ez on February 20, 2021, 07:49:29 PM
2-1. Trez and Jack with the goods.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: taylorsworkrate on February 20, 2021, 07:53:28 PM
2-1. Trez and Jack with the goods.

Thats gonna cause a meltdown on here  8)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Three Spires Villa on February 20, 2021, 07:54:50 PM
2-1. Trez and Jack with the goods.

Thats gonna cause a meltdown on here  8)

Ha ha 👍👍
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: eamonn on February 20, 2021, 10:03:19 PM
If Jack is out, I'd be amazed if Barkley didn't start, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Legion on February 20, 2021, 10:11:58 PM
IF Grealish is out with shin-splints it will be for quite a while. We will find out tomorrow at 1.05pm if he is playing or not. Time for others to step up to the plate if so. As much as he is our best outfield player, Captain and talisman we cannot and should no longer be reliant on one player to be the main focus. "Give the ball to Jack," a la Bruce is long gone.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Villafirst on February 20, 2021, 10:23:27 PM
If, if Grealish is out, I think it changes a lot in terms of any potential changes Smith might of been considering. Whether Barclays form is poor and Traores mixed or not, there is no way for me, Smith loses Grealish, Barclay and Traore from the starting line up, it completely nullifies the majority of support that Watkins has had this season.
If Jack is out, I think Traore will have to start on the left with Trez on the right and Barclay having one more chance to step up behind Watkins.

If the Grealish rumours are true

                 Martinez

Elmo.          Konsa.  Mings.    Targett

                   Luiz.     McGinn

Trez.                  Barclay.        Traore

                          Watkins

Barkley!! Where's Barclay from?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Legion on February 20, 2021, 10:24:04 PM
The bank?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Ian. on February 20, 2021, 10:35:52 PM
Not sure why you'd want anything other than Ollie playing as centre forward. The guy is scoring goals for fun at the moment.

Assuming no Jack pr Cash, I'd go

Martinez
Elmo - Konsa - Mings - Targett
Douglas - Nakamba
Trez - Barkley - AEG
Watkins

Traore & SJM benched, to be brought on 2nd half.
That’s a very dull looking side.

If Jack isn’t playing I’d certainly hope Traore is starting. We’d need a bit of magic, even McGinn further forward would help.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: brontebilly on February 20, 2021, 11:16:34 PM
IF Grealish is out with shin-splints it will be for quite a while. We will find out tomorrow at 1.05pm if he is playing or not. Time for others to step up to the plate if so. As much as he is our best outfield player, Captain and talisman we cannot and should no longer be reliant on one player to be the main focus. "Give the ball to Jack," a la Bruce is long gone.

The give the ball to Jack tactic continues to this day. Let's not kid ourselves. If he is out, the likes of McGinn, Luiz, Traore and particularly Barkley who haven't performed in weeks will certainly have to step up.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: RamboandBruno on February 20, 2021, 11:38:14 PM
If, if Grealish is out, I think it changes a lot in terms of any potential changes Smith might of been considering. Whether Barclays form is poor and Traores mixed or not, there is no way for me, Smith loses Grealish, Barclay and Traore from the starting line up, it completely nullifies the majority of support that Watkins has had this season.
If Jack is out, I think Traore will have to start on the left with Trez on the right and Barclay having one more chance to step up behind Watkins.

If the Grealish rumours are true

                 Martinez

Elmo.          Konsa.  Mings.    Targett

                   Luiz.     McGinn

Trez.                  Barclay.        Traore

                          Watkins

Barkley!! Where's Barclay from?

Ffs, apologies for this horrendous error.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 20, 2021, 11:50:55 PM
If Jack is out;

Martinez

Targett
Mings
Konsa
Elmo

Luiz

Sanson
McGinn

Traore
Watkins
Trez

What I'd go for aswell.

To counter Leicester's strength we really need to be solid centrally and if the jack injury is true gives us chance to go solid centrally by giving Sanson a first start or perhaps Nakamba will come back in.

Think Trez has to start really to help out AEM given the form Harvey Barnes is in for them and the runs he makes from the left.

And then on our left we give Traore or Barkley that free licence to drift in from left and try to be Jack for the day. When they're on it both can score or create.

It may just work but we're going to have to play very well to get anything I suspect.

Hopefully DS won't just go maverick and revert to last season and play Traore and Barkley and unload the central midfield as I think Leicester will score 2 or 3 past us no problem if we give them the space we gave to Arsenal and Brighton.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 21, 2021, 01:33:57 AM
I would go with that aswell, but pretty sure he will play Barkley. If we give them 20 attempts on goal it could get ugly.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on February 21, 2021, 08:47:09 AM
i am no itk but i am almost sure jg is out from who told me. But chance to motivate other players and get a proper look at Sanson ......
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: robbo1874 on February 21, 2021, 09:04:39 AM
I think the difference may be the strength of the respective benches. They’ve got inehanacho who tore us a new one previously. Really tough one this. Hopefully it’s a good one to watch.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Astnor on February 21, 2021, 09:30:41 AM
Elmo for Cash. El Ghazi in for Traore after 60. Unchanged else. Barkley to score. Top performance from back five again. We win. Easy.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Clampy on February 21, 2021, 09:37:08 AM
Not claiming to be an ITK at anything, but if you come back on here just after 1pm, I should have information for you on whether Grealish plays today.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Deano's Mullet on February 21, 2021, 09:41:19 AM
All the games I’ve expected to lose this season we have won and vice versa. I expect to lose today so.....

1-2 to them
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 21, 2021, 09:54:57 AM
Whoever plays we’re going to need to be a hell of a lot better than we were last week.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: CT on February 21, 2021, 10:38:25 AM
As Grealish is carrying a problem I think it's imperative the team step up.
Also to introduce a starting place for Sanson

                  Martinez;
      Elmo, Konsa, Mings, Targett
                Luiz,
           McGinn Sanson
           Traroe   Barkley
               Watkins

My concerns would be the Elmo and Traroe defensive side of things in our regular formation so would tweak it to have McGinn right side

What problem is he carrying? I’d love to know.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Mellin on February 21, 2021, 10:45:18 AM
Though we needed to introduce a bit more graft anyway. Certainly do now with Cash and maybe Grealish out. Trez wide right, Traore left and Sanson in for Barkley. Barkley and Ghazi options off the bench.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: aj2k77 on February 21, 2021, 10:51:54 AM
Mcginn, Luiz and Barkley are going to have to really step it up today both ball retention and work rate wise. All 3 have been poor since our covid break. Without the King we need 100% improvement from the entire midfield.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on February 21, 2021, 10:54:31 AM
I've not been that impressed with Barkley and have wanted him dropped to the bench, though I don't think Dean would actually do this irrespective of injuries. That said if JG is out injured then Barkley needs to step out from Jack's shadow starting today and start playing like the £30-£40m pound player he seems to think he is (and chelski also).
His time to show his worth is running out. Let's hope he can start today with consistent, meaningful performances. UTV!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: N'ZMAV on February 21, 2021, 11:04:06 AM
If Grealish is out then Barkley has to play - I'd play Elmo at RB with Trez in front of him.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: N'ZMAV on February 21, 2021, 11:18:12 AM
Unless Konsa plays right back and Engels comes in?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Goldenballs on February 21, 2021, 11:51:07 AM
If Grealish is out then Barkley has to play - I'd play Elmo at RB with Trez in front of him.

I agree with playing Trez, get the Egyptian brothers down the right. If Elmo doesn't get support down that side, Barnes will kill him.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 21, 2021, 11:54:43 AM
What about 4 4 1 1 with SJM on the right,
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: olaftab on February 21, 2021, 12:45:58 PM
Leicester have moved from 5/4 to evens. Must be some team news about?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 21, 2021, 12:53:55 PM
He is out, Fuck
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: balloubaby on February 21, 2021, 12:54:27 PM
Just confirmed on Sky Jack is out
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Monty on February 21, 2021, 12:54:43 PM
What about 4 4 1 1 with SJM on the right,

I'm a believer in this, let him concentrate on attacking, pressing up the pitch, getting into more shooting positions than he does at the mo.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Deano's Mullet on February 21, 2021, 12:55:07 PM
That’s ok, let’s see what Sanson can do if he plays.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 21, 2021, 12:55:12 PM
Lose 4-1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Monty on February 21, 2021, 12:57:25 PM
Now it might shock people, but Leicester have actually lost to teams who had nobody even half as good as Jack. Huge blow, of course, but not necessarily fatal.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: devilla on February 21, 2021, 12:57:46 PM
Will be interesting to see how Smith tries to re-arrange the team with Jack out. I have a bad feeling about this one.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: manic-road on February 21, 2021, 12:57:47 PM
With Jack out we lose most of our creativity but may make us more solid in midfield. This will be an interesting watch, Traore may be the man to create the chances.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Ian. on February 21, 2021, 12:59:04 PM
We really need Traore to step up like he can do and try and create some magic.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: Mister E on February 21, 2021, 12:59:11 PM
With Jack out we lose most of our creativity but may make us more solid in midfield. This will be an interesting watch, Traore may be the man to create the chances.
Depends if he plays Barkley from the start: if so, I think we'll be weaker.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: aj2k77 on February 21, 2021, 01:03:22 PM
We'll get hammered today. We've been well off the pace since the covid break and with no Grealish we'll gift them the ball constantly.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 21, 2021, 01:03:59 PM
Now it might shock people, but Leicester have actually lost to teams who had nobody even half as good as Jack. Huge blow, of course, but not necessarily fatal.

Their actual form hasn't been that great recently. Draws v Everton and Wolves and Leeds did a really good job on them. Think the last 15 minutes when Liverpool just imploded skewed perceptions.

Not a great match up though for us and for us to even get a draw we'll have to low block them to death as happened in the away game.

We haven't played a league game without Jack playing since 10th November 2019 so long old time and will inevitably cause some issues.

Would snap hands off for a point today, we do have 4 clean sheets from last 6 games so defensively good again.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Leicester City - Pre Match Thread. Sunday 2.05pm.
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 21, 2021, 01:06:05 PM
DS playing all the attackers....ah well.

Barkley, AEG and Traore all starting.
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