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Title: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 06, 2021, 11:52:54 PM
Sad to see that Leon Spinks has died of cancer. He was 67.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Rory on February 07, 2021, 12:32:09 AM
Sad to see that Leon Spinks has died of cancer. He was 67.

That's very sad.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Villa Lew on February 07, 2021, 10:23:31 AM
Yeah sad news, won a gold medal at the 76 Montreal Olympics, then only 18 months later in only his 8th professional fight achieved one of the biggest upsets in boxing history in beating Muhammad Ali on a split decision. His reign as champion only lasted 7 months as Ali gained revenge in the rematch with an easy points decision to become heavyweight champion for a record third time.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dcdavecollett on February 08, 2021, 02:33:49 AM
Ali didn't prepare properly for the first fight.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Ger Regan on February 08, 2021, 05:51:59 PM
Would be interesting to get the views of the resident boxing fans here around the kinehan story.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Simon Page on February 08, 2021, 08:07:16 PM
For those who haven't seen it, this is a good piece going in-depth on Kinehan.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/1y3kadznaf/the-suspected-gangster-at-the-heart-of-world-boxing (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/1y3kadznaf/the-suspected-gangster-at-the-heart-of-world-boxing)

Criminals running boxing is up there with bears/woods, popes/catholics, but the extent of their control or influence is something to behold. I get the feeling it's more laundering than ruining boxing, or would be were it not for the fact that it's all clearly legit and, erm, nothing to see here. Feels a bit like having a go at Hitler for his vegetarianism (I know, pedants) as the drugs and murders are more of a concern than whether they manage some punchers. But maybe I'm missing something.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Brazilian Villain on February 08, 2021, 10:46:09 PM
For those who haven't seen it, this is a good piece going in-depth on Kinehan.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/1y3kadznaf/the-suspected-gangster-at-the-heart-of-world-boxing (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/1y3kadznaf/the-suspected-gangster-at-the-heart-of-world-boxing)

Criminals running boxing is up there with bears/woods, popes/catholics, but the extent of their control or influence is something to behold. I get the feeling it's more laundering than ruining boxing, or would be were it not for the fact that it's all clearly legit and, erm, nothing to see here. Feels a bit like having a go at Hitler for his vegetarianism (I know, pedants) as the drugs and murders are more of a concern than whether they manage some punchers. But maybe I'm missing something.

It was also covered in an hour long Panorama last week. One noticeable aspect of lockdown here has been the amount of seizures of cash and drugs the Gardai have made. https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0204/1195109-kinahan-organised-crime-group/

Not sure why Kinahan got involved in boxing (aside from ego or maybe money laundering) but for me it's never a good idea to raise your profile or come to the attention of the US authorities if you're running a major criminal gang.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 11, 2021, 09:42:44 PM
It starts again on Saturday. It'll be interesting to see how Josh Warrington fights without that Leeds mob behind him.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on February 12, 2021, 01:42:08 PM
Was thinking the same thing Dave - always a fun atmosphere (to be hundreds of miles away from watching on tv) that seems to fire him up
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 13, 2021, 10:01:26 PM
Barrett v Martinez is the best sporting action I've seen all day.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Proposition Joe on February 13, 2021, 10:14:31 PM
Barrett v Martinez is the best sporting action I've seen all day.

Very close.  But the Matchroom guy is the home fighter, so let's see ....
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 13, 2021, 10:20:00 PM
First fight of the year, first corrupt decision.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Proposition Joe on February 13, 2021, 10:20:58 PM
First fight of the year, first corrupt decision.

Could be Crocodile tears, but even Eddie Hearn sounds pissed off with it.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gary Penrice on February 13, 2021, 10:21:18 PM
The shock in the commentators voices speaks volumes....Eddie speaking a bit of sense....don't believe he thinks his man won!
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gary Penrice on February 13, 2021, 10:32:44 PM
Hoping for an impressive performance from Warrington. Would love to see him fight either Can Xu or Gary Russell Jnr but my choice would be Can Xu. I think it'd make for a great fight.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 13, 2021, 10:38:46 PM
First fight of the year, first corrupt decision.

Could be Crocodile tears, but even Eddie Hearn sounds pissed off with it.

He always does, but you can bet he'll use the same judges for his next card.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 13, 2021, 10:44:53 PM
And this one won't go three rounds.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on February 13, 2021, 10:58:31 PM
Seems it’s not just the football team from Leeds can’t defend....ref should have stopped that he was shot
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Proposition Joe on February 13, 2021, 10:58:37 PM
And this one won't go three rounds.

Looks like finishing early but not in the way you'd think ...
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: PeterWithe on February 13, 2021, 10:58:44 PM
You might be right

Saves by the bell...
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on February 13, 2021, 11:00:20 PM
You might be right

Saves by the bell...
& the ref
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: PeterWithe on February 13, 2021, 11:02:59 PM
Great heart to steady himself.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on February 13, 2021, 11:09:25 PM
If this goes distance can’t wait to see how judges conjure a Warrington win
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 13, 2021, 11:17:24 PM
If this goes distance can’t wait to see how judges conjure a Warrington win

Easily.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: PeterWithe on February 13, 2021, 11:17:42 PM
Just never looked firm on his feet . Hope he’s ok
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on February 13, 2021, 11:19:58 PM
Lara can bang...should have been stopped in 4th, would def had it been other way round
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 13, 2021, 11:22:23 PM
I am to boxing predictions what Legion is to flying a kite in a thunderstorm.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Villa Lew on February 13, 2021, 11:23:24 PM
Lara class during the fight and after the fight
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on February 13, 2021, 11:24:08 PM
I am to boxing predictions what Legion is to flying a kite in a thunderstorm.
:-)
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Drummond on February 13, 2021, 11:27:58 PM
Definite hospital trip for him. He was done.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 13, 2021, 11:37:01 PM
It's good to see Johnny Nelson calling out the officials. The scoring in the first fight was diabolical and Warrington should have been stopped long before he was knocked out.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on February 13, 2021, 11:37:52 PM
Johnny Nelson / Adam Booth calling it spot on, that fight is stopped in 4th if other way round, he wasn’t there after then
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 13, 2021, 11:42:14 PM
It's easy to be wise after the event but he didn't look right coming out for the fifth.

The biggest disappointment was that it wasn't for a world title, at Elland Road, in front of thirty thousand Leeds fans.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: J on February 13, 2021, 11:46:03 PM
How bad was the robbery in the Zelfa Barrett fight? I didn't see any of it as I was watching the analysis after the Villa match.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 14, 2021, 12:01:52 AM
How bad was the robbery in the Zelfa Barrett fight? I didn't see any of it as I was watching the analysis after the Villa match.

Two of the commentators scored it a draw. Flicking between the channels it was hard to say who won but no way was it was wide as was given.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Villa Lew on February 16, 2021, 11:10:40 AM
Chris Eubank on the Piers Morgan's Life Stories Thursday ITV 1 9pm
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Villa Lew on February 19, 2021, 02:34:19 PM
It was a good watch, the chat between him and Michael Watson was emotional stuff.

It was after that fight the boxing regulations changed a neurological hospital had to be within 10 minutes of the arena the fight was taking place and an ambulance and paramedics were required on the site.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 19, 2021, 09:02:49 PM
Tonight's card doesn't have any big names but that often makes the best fights. 
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Footy-Vill on February 20, 2021, 08:52:55 PM
Josh Kelly vs David Avanesyan is the main fight tonight and I think Josh  Avanesyan might take it because of his experience.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 20, 2021, 08:59:05 PM
With the usual caveat that you all know my boxing prediction accuracy, 8/13 is good value for Josh Kelly tonight.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on February 20, 2021, 10:04:29 PM
Looking forward to the Kelly fight....enjoying Charlton v Marku
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: J on February 20, 2021, 10:29:22 PM
It's been a very enjoyable card so far. I've got Kelly on points at 7/5.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 20, 2021, 10:58:10 PM
This is a cracking fight so far.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 20, 2021, 11:01:05 PM
With the usual caveat that you all know my boxing prediction accuracy, 8/13 is good value for Josh Kelly tonight.

Told you.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on February 20, 2021, 11:02:56 PM
Enjoyed that, more work in 6 rounds than some 10/12 rounders
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: aev on February 20, 2021, 11:08:04 PM
Kelly great for a couple of rounds and then looked fooked. Those body shots took their toll.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 27, 2021, 09:55:45 PM
Another Frank Warren special card here.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on February 27, 2021, 10:07:06 PM
Just tuned in for the last fight...didn’t even know there was a fight night till saw your post Dave
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 27, 2021, 10:16:14 PM
You've not missed much.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on February 27, 2021, 10:33:46 PM
Well this is going to go 10 rounds as neither seem to have punch power

Let’s see if my boxing predictions are also off
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 27, 2021, 10:41:02 PM
Well this is going to go 10 rounds as neither seem to have punch power

Let’s see if my boxing predictions are also off

If they're worse than mine give up.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Sexual Ealing on February 28, 2021, 04:09:39 AM
My lad wins again without breaking a sweat.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 12, 2021, 10:34:40 PM
Crocker v Ilbay is a corker so far.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 14, 2021, 05:43:18 PM
If anyone who isn't a boxing fan is wondering why the world is a lesser place today:

https://youtu.be/BmWbOw6KJ6g
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: SteveN on March 14, 2021, 06:52:01 PM
If anyone who isn't a boxing fan is wondering why the world is a lesser place today:

https://youtu.be/BmWbOw6KJ6g

I worked with a lad who liked his boxing but way too young to know much about Hagler, Sugar Ray, Duran and Hearns.  When he left I got him a DVD of all their fights against each other.
When I saw him a few weeks later all he could say about the fights was "Wow".
A golden age, the only way I could describe Hagler's fighting  style would be controlled violence. 
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Simon Page on March 14, 2021, 08:44:55 PM
Remember his fight against Minter. Narky, racist and brutal. Incredible to think he'd had 50+ fights by the time he won the title. I still maintain he beat Leonard.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Pat McMahon on March 14, 2021, 09:16:20 PM
Remember his fight against Minter. Narky, racist and brutal. Incredible to think he'd had 50+ fights by the time he won the title. I still maintain he beat Leonard.

I remember a Hugh McIlveny interview with Leonard in which he told Leonard he thought Hagler had shaded it on points. I think Leonard ended the interview at that point - in a mock angry way.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dcdavecollett on March 15, 2021, 01:31:09 AM
Marvin's win against Thomas 'The Hit Man' Hearns must go down as one of the greatest victories in boxing history, considering the circumstances.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 19, 2021, 08:43:13 PM
Tonight promises to have a couple of good fights, including Lee McGregor taking a step up. We've already had Nathan Bendon, who comes from Sutton and is therefore almost certainly one of us, getting a good upset win.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 19, 2021, 10:59:04 PM
I blinked, I missed it.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 20, 2021, 09:27:13 PM
Anyone watching?
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: luke:lamf on March 21, 2021, 01:59:05 PM
Okolie last night was excellent. Will be interesting to see how he fares when comes up against someone of a similar height, because that and his reach allowed him to totally dominate Glawocki. Given his stated intent is to unify at cruiser and then move up to heavy, could see a UK heavyweight champion of the world for quite a while...
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: taylorsworkrate on March 21, 2021, 02:00:41 PM
If Okolie can keep that sort of handspeed at heavyweight, then he'd be a very tricky opponent for anyone.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 26, 2021, 09:46:16 PM
Despite the withdrawal this is a decent card.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 26, 2021, 11:01:00 PM
With Dennis McCann looking promising.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Brazilian Villain on March 26, 2021, 11:12:12 PM
Oh dear! https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/56545873
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 26, 2021, 11:20:33 PM
And Zach Parker was very impressive.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Rory on March 26, 2021, 11:33:08 PM
Oh dear! https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/56545873

I blame Mayweather giving McGregor the honour of sharing the same ring. I don't want to sound like a sad old purist, but it devalues the sport. All this nonsense about Holyfield-Tyson III. Plus the social media arseholes like Logan/Jake/Paul Paul (whatever their fucking names are) getting involved.

Boxing has always been a little bit pantomime, going back 100+ years, but there are plenty of great boxers around. Maybe the answer is to put good cards on free-to-air TV rather than engineering novelty fights, having the cheek to charge PPV prices for them, and expecting casual viewers to say '55 year old Roy Jones vs Eamon Holmes was a good laugh, maybe I'll start following this boxing lark'.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: luke:lamf on March 26, 2021, 11:39:27 PM
55 year old Roy Jones vs Eamon Holmes
Dear Santa, I've been a very good boy this year, I only want one thing....
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Rory on March 27, 2021, 12:24:54 AM
55 year old Roy Jones vs Eamon Holmes
Dear Santa, I've been a very good boy this year, I only want one thing....

Based on Roy's exhibition fight against Tyson, I think this would be a split decision!
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Villa Lew on March 27, 2021, 04:51:14 PM
Ok who's going to win the big fight?, I'm going, without any confidence, for a Whyte win 9th round.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Rory on March 27, 2021, 05:17:06 PM
Ok who's going to win the big fight?, I'm going, without any confidence, for a Whyte win 9th round.

I have absolutely no idea. A KO like the one last time can change a fighter's whole outlook.

It'll be really interesting to see how Whyte comes out - if he tries to be patient, measured and settle into the fight then that could turn into gun-shyness. If he comes out looking to dominate then he could end up trying too hard and either leaving himself open or burning out early.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 27, 2021, 08:04:34 PM
I've got a couple of quid on Povetkin. He needn't bother getting changed.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 27, 2021, 08:41:07 PM
Nathan Gorman's just put his opponent down three times in the first round.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 27, 2021, 08:42:33 PM
And twice in the first thirty seconds of round two.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: JuanMartinez on March 28, 2021, 05:19:29 AM
Whyte wins by KO in the 4th to round of a miserable betting day.

A special mention to Slovakia and Norway for that.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: luke:lamf on March 28, 2021, 02:35:44 PM
Whyte wins by KO in the 4th to round of a miserable betting day.

A special mention to Slovakia and Norway for that.
I didn't watch the whole card, but the last 3 fights all had really enjoyable finishes, especially the Cheeseman KO. As a very, very casual boxing fan, that was "proper" boxing, two absolutely knackered fighters going hell-for-leather in the 11th because neither could be sure of a points win.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 28, 2021, 02:46:56 PM
I've got a couple of quid on Povetkin. He needn't bother getting changed.

Every bloody time. I think the last one I called right was Jersey Joe Walcott v Ezzard Charles II
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Villa Lew on March 28, 2021, 03:39:43 PM
Just glad I didn't pay to watch the so called 'big fight', sounded very one sided, I would say Povetkin at 41 is probably finished now. Good win for Whyte though, talking Wilder as his next possible opponent.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 03, 2021, 01:18:40 PM
Carl Frampton will be delighted to know that I think Jamel Herring at 10/11 seems like bet of the year.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gary Penrice on April 03, 2021, 02:53:59 PM
Carl Frampton will be delighted to know that I think Jamel Herring at 10/11 seems like bet of the year.

Free to watch on C5 is a bonus as well.

Bookies can't split them so should be a decent contest. Frampton is rarely in poor fights so hoping for more of the same tonight.

My fingers are firmly crossed for Frampton as he bids to become a 3 weight world champion. It really couldn't happen to a nicer guy!
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 03, 2021, 10:39:01 PM
Sadly I got one right.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on April 03, 2021, 10:58:23 PM
Brilliant career, beaten by better man on night...great corner work to save him from real punishment
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Post by: taylorsworkrate on April 04, 2021, 07:01:22 PM
Brilliant career, beaten by better man on night...great corner work to save him from real punishment

Thought it was poor from the ref to allow it to continue after the 2nd knockdown. Frampton didn't look steady at all after taking the count.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Brazilian Villain on April 04, 2021, 10:12:08 PM
Brilliant career, beaten by better man on night...great corner work to save him from real punishment

Shame for Frampton as he seems a good guy. Steve Bunce did a podcast which included private conversations Carl had with Nonito Donaire after their fight and the level of mutual respect shown was pretty remarkable.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gary Penrice on April 09, 2021, 05:16:13 PM
I'm looking forward to Conor Benn v Samuel Vargas tomorrow night. Vargas has been in with some top operators & it will be a very good test for Benn.

I'm leaning towards a Benn victory.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 10, 2021, 10:21:49 PM
I'm looking forward to Conor Benn v Samuel Vargas tomorrow night. Vargas has been in with some top operators & it will be a very good test for Benn.

I'm leaning towards a Benn victory.

You could say that.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on April 10, 2021, 10:32:37 PM
Fair to say don’t blink :-)

Smashed Vargas up
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Villa Lew on April 10, 2021, 10:58:01 PM
Benn v Amir Khan would be good
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 10, 2021, 11:01:54 PM
I doubt Khan will ever fight again. It's almost ten years since he won a world title.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on April 10, 2021, 11:23:46 PM
The only way Amir goes in with Benn is for the cash -  same reason he dodged Brook for years he’s done if he loses a domestic fight.

Style wise it could be a cracking fight though.

No doubting Benn is an explosive puncher, needs a fight where he will get hit next
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: PaulWinch again on April 10, 2021, 11:35:19 PM
I doubt Khan will ever fight again. It's almost ten years since he won a world title.

Khan is such a strange fighter - brilliant speed and skill, some great wins, and a world champion, but somehow feels like unfulfilled potential to me.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 10, 2021, 11:39:41 PM
I doubt Khan will ever fight again. It's almost ten years since he won a world title.

Khan is such a strange fighter - brilliant speed and skill, some great wins, and a world champion, but somehow feels like unfulfilled potential to me.

Part he fell into the celebrity lifestyle, part he never managed to learn to duck.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: PaulWinch again on April 10, 2021, 11:43:32 PM
Yes and there were certain fights where you just felt he was going in to be a valiant loser.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: aldridgeboy on April 11, 2021, 02:04:58 AM
Zero chance Khan will want to fight Benn

Have we had a more unpopular but successful boxer than Khan? I can’t think of one ?
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Villa Lew on April 17, 2021, 09:24:27 PM
Daniel Dubois to make his return to the ring on 5 June against Romanian Bogdan Dinu.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 17, 2021, 10:09:44 PM
Summers v Azeez was a quality tear-up.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: J on April 17, 2021, 10:50:27 PM
Not the best of starts for Williams against Andrade
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 17, 2021, 10:55:18 PM
Danny Dignum is having to battle for this one.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: J on April 17, 2021, 11:37:42 PM
Williams is tough as nails but ultimately not skilled enough at world level. Andrade couldn't miss with that uppercut all night.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 18, 2021, 02:23:41 AM
World-class v European class.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 24, 2021, 09:12:54 PM
Bentley v Cash looks like being a cracking fight.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on April 24, 2021, 09:24:30 PM
Adelaye fight is a v boring nil-nil draw after 5 rounds
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 24, 2021, 09:32:15 PM
Adelaye fight is a v boring nil-nil draw after 5 rounds

And an absolutely farcical decision. British boxing is as corrupt as our government.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on April 24, 2021, 09:53:47 PM
One punch and about 8 jabs in 6 rounds...absolutely farcical
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 24, 2021, 10:22:12 PM
Callum Johnson, though. On form he's as good as any British fighter.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on April 24, 2021, 10:42:45 PM
Johnson was excellent-rode that shot he took and put him away.

Cash very good in the big fight
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 24, 2021, 10:46:15 PM
Two really good performances. The headline fights lasting five rounds between them is usually bad news but nobody could really complain about that. On that showing I can see Cash giving Eubank some trouble.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on April 24, 2021, 10:53:21 PM
That would be a cracking fight on that display
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: thick_mike on April 28, 2021, 02:45:04 PM
This is going to be very short and very one sided...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/56911903
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: JD on April 29, 2021, 09:05:16 AM
Mayweather is going to give this guy one hell of a beating.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Villa Lew on April 30, 2021, 12:18:57 AM
Who cares
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 30, 2021, 09:44:55 PM
Is anyone watching, or are you all waiting for tomorrow?
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gary Penrice on April 30, 2021, 09:45:45 PM
I don't get the hype about Michael Conlan! He'll probably go on to win this fight but he's looking very average.

Sunny Edwards faces a real test on the top of the bill. The champ is very good & highly respected.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gary Penrice on April 30, 2021, 10:03:18 PM
Joe Joyce is a better fighter than he is a pundit!!!
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 30, 2021, 11:16:22 PM
118-111 for me.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: JD on May 01, 2021, 10:39:00 PM
Anyone watching the fights tonight.

Taylor v Jonas sounds like a cracker, unfortunately I'm not willing to pay $40 to watch the fights tonight. 
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Proposition Joe on May 01, 2021, 10:42:03 PM
Katie Taylor is a machine!
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 01, 2021, 10:42:55 PM
Anyone watching the fights tonight.

Taylor v Jonas sounds like a cracker, unfortunately I'm not willing to pay $40 to watch the fights tonight. 

It's a brilliant fight and no doubt Katie Taylor will get another lop-sided decision.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: luke:lamf on May 01, 2021, 10:52:18 PM
I've quite enjoyed the two women's matches I've watched this year - the lack of power and 2-minute rounds seems to mean that it's almost constant punching. In the one a couple of weeks ago (some Australian girl whose nickname is Barbie something - her eye came up and closed like a beefheart tomato. Gruesome. I suspect if they made it 3 minute rounds it would lead to more knockouts and also make scoring a bit easier.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Proposition Joe on May 01, 2021, 11:00:39 PM
Anyone watching the fights tonight.

Taylor v Jonas sounds like a cracker, unfortunately I'm not willing to pay $40 to watch the fights tonight. 

It's a brilliant fight and no doubt Katie Taylor will get another lop-sided decision.

To be fair, the judges probably gave Jonas more rounds than she actually won.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Proposition Joe on May 01, 2021, 11:03:34 PM
Just as an aside, can anyone more involved in boxing tell me why fighters ever opt for the big white "pillow" gloves? Just seems to me anecdotally that no one ever looks good with them, so is it mainly for fighters that have issues with breaking bones in their hands?
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 01, 2021, 11:03:42 PM
I was pleasantly surprised at that, but nowhere near as much as Joseph Parker would be if he knew I've put my ten shillings on Chisora.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: luke:lamf on May 01, 2021, 11:06:22 PM
Just as an aside, can anyone more involved in boxing tell me why fighters ever opt for the big white "pillow" gloves? Just seems to me anecdotally that no one ever looks good with them, so is it mainly for fighters that have issues with breaking bones in their hands?
What I want to know is what happened to the shiny red 80s boxing gloves and can we have them back please?
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: JD on May 01, 2021, 11:17:18 PM
FFS Joe.... Knocked down after 7 secs. Not a good start.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: TonyD on May 01, 2021, 11:24:17 PM
How can they charge to watch Derek v Parker?   Not even a title fight
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 01, 2021, 11:25:23 PM
How can they charge to watch Derek v Parker?   Not even a title fight

Because Chisora, for some reason, is popular with casual fans. There's something about him that people like; he's never been booed into the ring.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: JD on May 01, 2021, 11:31:11 PM
Over here it's because Parker is the only boxer NZ have in any class and he is extremely popular.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: PaulTheVillan on May 01, 2021, 11:36:42 PM
This fight isn’t a patch on the women’s fight before it. Would like to see Parker end Chisora’s career
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: luke:lamf on May 01, 2021, 11:45:02 PM
How can they charge to watch Derek v Parker?   Not even a title fight
Woah, woah, woah, I will not stand by and see the WBO Inter-Continental Heavy Title disrespected so !

😁
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 02, 2021, 12:02:02 AM
I've got it 115-113 Parker.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: PaulTheVillan on May 02, 2021, 12:02:03 AM
Not sure the one scorecard was that wide but felt Parker just about won. Just
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: PaulTheVillan on May 02, 2021, 12:02:30 AM
I've got it 115-113 Parker.
yeah same
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Proposition Joe on May 02, 2021, 12:08:22 AM
For me it was a draw, I couldn't split them
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 02, 2021, 12:33:58 AM
Please, no rematch.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Villa Lew on May 02, 2021, 11:50:36 AM
How can they charge to watch Derek v Parker?   Not even a title fight
Agree 100% absolute rip off, no other sport has PPV, but somehow boxing seems to get away with it.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Rory on May 04, 2021, 12:39:41 AM
I don't know who pays for these fights. I'd rather eat my own shit than pay £30 to watch Mayweather against some talentless Youtube ******.

McGregor was bad enough, but at least he is known for strangling and kicking people in the face. That was still a discredit to boxing.

Fighting some male Kim Kardashian is beyond unacceptable.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: aj2k77 on May 06, 2021, 01:46:06 PM
Canelo Saunders coming up. Anyone else hope Saunders is given a royal beating?
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 08, 2021, 05:01:33 PM
Yes, Saunders is conducting himself fairly poorly. I get that it’s mind games and all that, but still it’s pretty undignified.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Proposition Joe on May 09, 2021, 04:22:45 AM
Jesus, the interminable anthems and ringwalks makes me pine for the fights in Eddie Hearn's back garden again.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 15, 2021, 08:40:23 PM
Looks like Gam Yafai's on the way out.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: J on May 15, 2021, 08:59:20 PM
Fair play to Cunningham, boxed brilliantly.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 15, 2021, 09:03:23 PM
Fair play to Cunningham, boxed brilliantly.

Gam seemed to take it way too lightly.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Proposition Joe on May 15, 2021, 09:12:22 PM
Fair play to Cunningham, boxed brilliantly.

Gam seemed to take it way too lightly.

Yeah, like they said on comms, that he probably heard that Cunningham didn't have any power so just marched through with no plan for avoiding punches coming his way.

But a great fight to watch and super performance from Cunningham, well pleased for him.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 15, 2021, 09:57:23 PM
Lerrone Richards is doing well but jeez, it's boring.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 15, 2021, 10:30:50 PM
And even I can predict this one.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Drummond on May 18, 2021, 10:09:09 AM
I've fallen out of love with boxing.

I used to love Friday Fight Night and watched religiously. Then they took more and more fights to PPV and frankly it helped to kill it off. That and the multiple platforms its shown on has made it too complicated to bother with any more.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 19, 2021, 10:01:42 PM
I've fallen out of love with boxing.

I used to love Friday Fight Night and watched religiously. Then they took more and more fights to PPV and frankly it helped to kill it off. That and the multiple platforms its shown on has made it too complicated to bother with any more.

Do what the rest of us do.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 22, 2021, 09:38:42 PM
Tonight should be good. Sam Eggington defends as well as his team does.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Villa Lew on May 23, 2021, 10:04:33 AM
Did anybody see the Josh Taylor fight, sounds if it was some performance, now undisputed world champion.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Villa Lew on June 05, 2021, 10:47:59 AM
Daniel Dubois returns to the ring tonight, 6 months after losing to Joe Joyce, when he quit in the ring due to a badly damaged eye. It's on BT Sport 1 starts 7pm.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 05, 2021, 08:50:30 PM
Daniel Dubois returns to the ring tonight, 6 months after losing to Joe Joyce, when he quit in the ring due to a badly damaged eye. It's on BT Sport 1 starts 7pm.

Is it on the wireless? I don't think I'll be home in time.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Villa Lew on June 05, 2021, 09:10:06 PM
Daniel Dubois returns to the ring tonight, 6 months after losing to Joe Joyce, when he quit in the ring due to a badly damaged eye. It's on BT Sport 1 starts 7pm.

Is it on the wireless? I don't think I'll be home in time.

Yeah it's on Talksport Dave
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on June 05, 2021, 09:18:36 PM
He’s only walking to the ring but that Nathan Heaney seems to be a bit of a knob.

Let’s see if he can box :-)
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 05, 2021, 09:36:56 PM
Daniel Dubois returns to the ring tonight, 6 months after losing to Joe Joyce, when he quit in the ring due to a badly damaged eye. It's on BT Sport 1 starts 7pm.

Is it on the wireless? I don't think I'll be home in time.

Yeah it's on Talksport Dave

Daniel Dubois returns to the ring tonight, 6 months after losing to Joe Joyce, when he quit in the ring due to a badly damaged eye. It's on BT Sport 1 starts 7pm.

Is it on the wireless? I don't think I'll be home in time.

Yeah it's on Talksport Dave

Ta.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on June 05, 2021, 10:04:04 PM
Good punch by Dubois to finish it....sure he could have done with a few rounds to get that injury out of his system but the opponent looked a bit slow & cumbersome
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: PGW on June 06, 2021, 10:16:54 AM
Good punch by Dubois to finish it....sure he could have done with a few rounds to get that injury out of his system but the opponent looked a bit slow & cumbersome

He was ranked 4 by the WBA. I don't see how!!!
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: PaulWinch again on June 07, 2021, 11:10:35 PM
Honestly who pays to watch Mayweather vs that YouTube bellend in an exhibition?!
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Rory on June 07, 2021, 11:16:38 PM
Honestly who pays to watch Mayweather vs that YouTube bellend in an exhibition?!

My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on June 08, 2021, 11:40:57 AM
Honestly who pays to watch Mayweather vs that YouTube bellend in an exhibition?!
Mores to the point who is on the hook should the worst happen if one of these freak shows end up with the novice getting killed? 
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 12, 2021, 12:02:27 AM
I've just read that Kirkland Laing died earlier in the week.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Simon Page on June 12, 2021, 12:45:41 PM
My favourite boxer ever.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 12, 2021, 11:10:29 PM
That was a great performance from Ponce and an appalling refereeing display from Steve Grey.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Villa Lew on June 12, 2021, 11:12:06 PM
That was terrible from the referee, Ritson's corner throw the towel in and the ref ignores it. Ritson had taken enough punishment.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on June 13, 2021, 03:53:20 PM
That was terrible from the referee, Ritson's corner throw the towel in and the ref ignores it. Ritson had taken enough punishment.

He could have been stopped a couple of rounds earlier. He was taking some brutal uppercuts.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: PGW on June 13, 2021, 04:10:25 PM
I've just read that Kirkland Laing died earlier in the week.
Truly gutted to read this...forever remembered after his performance against Duran
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Rory on June 21, 2021, 09:48:51 PM
I was saddened to hear of his passing, and then annoyed by the fact nobody I know had heard of him. Before the joke fight between Mayweather and that Youtube twat, my family asked "which one is the boxer then?" And last year, I was asked who the 'biggest' celebrity was to have appeared in Strictly Come Dancing. I said Joe Calzaghe. "Who?"

Boxing has an image problem.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 10, 2021, 03:11:42 PM
Sebastian Eubank, son of Chris and a pro himself, has died aged 29.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 10, 2021, 10:40:37 PM
Is anyone bothering tonight?
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Rory on July 14, 2021, 12:05:03 AM
Sebastian Eubank, son of Chris and a pro himself, has died aged 29.

Very sad, Dave. Can't say I'd ever seen him fight, but  that's no age to die.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 24, 2021, 08:41:32 PM
Joe Joyce is ridiculous odds tonight.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Villa Lew on July 25, 2021, 10:40:54 AM
He's now WBO mandatory challenger to face winner of Joshua v Usyk fight.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Villa Lew on July 29, 2021, 05:16:11 PM
Conor Benn's fight due tomorrow, has been called off as he has tested positive for covid.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Villa Lew on July 30, 2021, 10:00:01 AM
Luke Campbell has just announced his retirement on the BBC Olympic programme.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on July 31, 2021, 09:41:45 PM
The cruiserweight three title fight has started off well.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 07, 2021, 01:11:43 PM
Gal Yafai wins gold, Lee McGregor loses the first three rounds then wins in the fourth. Kid Galahad to come tonight.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 07, 2021, 11:00:30 PM
Galahad duly wins, with Jazza Dickens' face a right mess by the end.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 14, 2021, 10:58:44 PM
Buatsi & Bolotniks is a cracking fight.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 15, 2021, 01:27:23 AM
With a stunning finish by Buatsi.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on August 15, 2021, 08:22:48 AM
What channel was the Buatsi fight on Dave?
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: PGW on August 16, 2021, 09:49:06 AM
With a stunning finish by Buatsi.

Don't forget the one by Cordina in the previous bout. That was stunning considering the issues/ops he's had on that right hand.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Villa Lew on August 23, 2021, 02:35:16 PM
Reading today, following his loss at the weekend by an unanimous decision, that Manny Pacquiao is considering retirement. Hope he does, he's 42 now, clearly pass his best.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 23, 2021, 03:15:49 PM
Should have retired years ago. It's sad when great boxers carry on past their sell by date and tanish their legacy. It can have tragic consequences, too, as in the case of Ali.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Villa Lew on August 30, 2021, 09:27:59 AM
I see Daniel Dubois beat Joe Cusumano last night in the USA with a first round KO, having put him down 3 times.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Villa Lew on September 04, 2021, 10:59:14 AM
Does anybody know what channel the Warrington fight is on tonight?
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 04, 2021, 11:19:56 AM
Does anybody know what channel the Warrington fight is on tonight?

DAZN.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Villa Lew on September 04, 2021, 11:55:36 AM
Does anybody know what channel the Warrington fight is on tonight?

DAZN.

That's a blow I wanted to see both Warrington and Benn, it appears Sky show less fights these days. Thanks anyway Dave.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 04, 2021, 09:48:08 PM
Conor Benn went through the motions and the crowd seem to think Josh Warrington's fighting someone named Manyew.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Proposition Joe on September 04, 2021, 10:29:34 PM
Michael Buffer now really looking his age.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 04, 2021, 11:05:39 PM
Warrington was saved by the cut there. Lara can hurt him and they both know it.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 10, 2021, 10:21:08 PM
Two cards tonight. Anyone watching?
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on September 10, 2021, 10:32:11 PM
Watching the Eggington one in ch5….this McKenna is agricultural….not sure he should be calling out Conor Benn for another year or two
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 10, 2021, 10:55:47 PM
Watching the Eggington one in ch5….this McKenna is agricultural….not sure he should be calling out Conor Benn for another year or two

The McKennas will never be Spice Boys. 
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on September 10, 2021, 10:59:45 PM
Def not….6 rounds improved the look

Eggington might have a tough night on his hands
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 10, 2021, 11:02:23 PM
The commentators are making out he's up against a world-class opponent when i reality he should win this one without much problem if he's ever going to progress.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on September 10, 2021, 11:09:49 PM
Not sure he’ll ever truly be better than domestic class, makes most of what ability he has & always enjoy watching him fight
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: tomd2103 on September 10, 2021, 11:16:08 PM
Good watch so far.  The French lad looks like he is starting to tire a bit.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: tomd2103 on September 10, 2021, 11:31:55 PM
Co-commentator had Eggington 3 rounds up on his scorecard after 8.  They’ve been hard round to score, but just think Jkitou has had the better of it so far.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on September 10, 2021, 11:49:15 PM
Thoroughly enjoyable fight…judges certainly saw it v diff from each other:-)
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: tomd2103 on September 11, 2021, 01:14:39 AM
Thoroughly enjoyable fight…judges certainly saw it v diff from each other:-)

Think the co-commentator had Eggington winning by 5/6 rounds in the end, which I thought was a bit harsh.  Two of the judges agreed though, yet the the other one went completely the other way!
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 12, 2021, 08:05:12 AM
What the hell are the doing letting 58 yr old Evander Holyfield in a boxing ring?
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Villa Lew on September 12, 2021, 09:12:06 AM
Yeah it's absolutely ridiculous, for those who haven't heard he lost, the referee stopped the fight within less than 2 minutes of the first round. Boxing gets enough bad publicity, without this farce adding to it.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Villa Lew on September 25, 2021, 07:13:21 PM
Is there any boxing on tonight? :)
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 25, 2021, 09:39:14 PM
Okolie done good. And GET ON WITH IT!!!!!!
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Villa Lew on September 25, 2021, 09:57:29 PM
I'm going AJ in the 6th
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 25, 2021, 10:01:14 PM
I'm going to sleep.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: TonyD on September 25, 2021, 10:25:46 PM
Rubbish first two rounds. 
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 25, 2021, 10:31:27 PM
This isn't exactly going to plan.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: aldridgeboy on September 25, 2021, 10:33:52 PM
Aj being totally outboxed.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Steve67 on September 25, 2021, 11:08:34 PM
Ooops!  Dressed like the joker but didn't box like one.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 25, 2021, 11:09:22 PM
Usjk deserved that. I don’t know if that’s the limit to what Joshua can do, but you feel like he isn’t boxing to his strengths.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 25, 2021, 11:12:19 PM
Usjk might have won anyway, he’s a brilliant fighter. But Joshua looked badly prepared and unsure.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Villa Lew on September 25, 2021, 11:14:11 PM
A boxing lesson from Usky
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: TonyD on September 25, 2021, 11:20:11 PM
AJ is odd.  He blows hot and cold.   Yes he was outboxed but he just looked disinterested. 
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Proposition Joe on September 25, 2021, 11:20:33 PM
Joshua is so stiff and robotic. His feet are so planted they grow roots. I'd like to see hin with a trainer that gets him moving and letting his hands go
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 25, 2021, 11:22:12 PM
Joshua’s attributes are power and strength, or at least they’re what differentiate him. The problem is that since the first Ruiz fight he’s got concerned. He was never going to out box Usjk - he needed to use that power. It could have left him exposed, which brings risk, but to win that fight he had to dominate the first half of it.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: aldridgeboy on September 25, 2021, 11:26:01 PM
If I was AJ, don’t bother with rematch. He’ll get outboxed again. Totally outboxed.  Fury beats both.

Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: TonyD on September 25, 2021, 11:40:45 PM
If I was AJ, don’t bother with rematch. He’ll get outboxed again. Totally outboxed.  Fury beats both.


He has to have a rematch. 
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 25, 2021, 11:53:12 PM
If Joshua wants a rematch, and I suspect he will, he has to be the best fighter he can be. That is a power fighter, with some pretty devastating punches. He’s a fine boxer, but he’s never out boxing Usjk. He’s got to accept there’s a risk of getting caught and stopped in order to move forward. To utilise his world class attributes he has to leave himself open. He might lose, but he might win. It’s better than trying to outbox Usjk, which will never work, and end up losing in a meek way.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Rory on September 26, 2021, 01:22:28 AM
I never thought AJ was Ali, but I thought he had the size & reach advantage, intelligence, power and precision to beat Usyk.

Credit to Usyk.

IF Fury beats Wilder, I think it's fair to say we'd be looking at the best two in the world if we saw a Fury/Usyk fight. Who could argue?

Not that I think Usyk is a better heavyweight than AJ, but what can you say? Suddenly I don't think it's unrealistic to say that Fury undoubtedly is the best heavyweight out there right now. And we just witnessed that AJ probably isn't.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Demitri_C on September 26, 2021, 01:06:14 PM
I expect to see aj on strictly come dancing in next 12 months
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: KRS on September 26, 2021, 06:48:29 PM
Why would Fury even take the AJ fight now that he’s lost all his belts? I’m not sure how these things work or who the next challenger would be for Fury if he beats Wilder, but I have a feeling that the Fury vs AJ fight may never happen now. Also, I just don’t see how AJ beats Fury if it does happen.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Villa Lew on October 02, 2021, 01:02:25 PM
Eubank fight off, due to Muratov not been cleared to fight, following a medical test.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 02, 2021, 08:17:25 PM
Eubank fight off, due to Muratov not been cleared to fight, following a medical test.

That'll make a poor card worse.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Risso on October 09, 2021, 08:32:21 AM
Why would Fury even take the AJ fight now that he’s lost all his belts? I’m not sure how these things work or who the next challenger would be for Fury if he beats Wilder, but I have a feeling that the Fury vs AJ fight may never happen now. Also, I just don’t see how AJ beats Fury if it does happen.

I think White will be next up for Fury, while Usyk has the rematch with Joshua.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gary Penrice on October 09, 2021, 10:31:57 AM
Tonight's 2 main fights are interesting.....I see Liam Smith having too much for Fowler & I'm backing a stoppage win between rounds 7 & 9.

Over in Vegas this one's intriguing......I think Wilder will come out all gun's blazing but I'm going for a Fury win on points or a late stoppage....rounds 10 to 12.

As always,looking forward to Ted Cheeseman this evening....rarely in a bad fight!
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Villa Lew on October 09, 2021, 01:35:44 PM
Like Gary I'm going for a Fury win, anybody staying up late or getting up early to watch it?
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Demitri_C on October 09, 2021, 09:22:53 PM
I hope fury smashes him but i have a feeling wilders going to get a punch in and win by ko.

Wilder looks massive here so he needs a early ko or he is going to gas out very quickly
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Rory on October 09, 2021, 10:06:39 PM
I rate Wilder, think he'd be 50/50 against AJ, but Fury must be a very difficult fighter to face. Similar to Calzaghe in the high volume of scoring shots, ability to avoid getting hit, unpredictable movement, improvisation, and very good at dictating the rhythm of a fight.

Wilder will always be dangerous, but I can't see the additional weight suiting him. Think Fury will toy with him and take him out late in round 9 or 10, just by sheer attrition.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 09, 2021, 10:08:42 PM
Well this isn't a bad fight so far.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Rory on October 09, 2021, 11:07:49 PM
Well this isn't a bad fight so far.

Can I ask where you get your boxing news from, Dave? I feel guilty talking about the sport with you and a few other posters who are clearly real boxing fans, but I'm one of the products of what is wrong with the sport. While millions will watch Mayweather fight a squid, I always enjoy a good competitive bout, but I only follow what I hear about, which inevitably is the 5 or 6 big box office fights per year that Sky and BBC dedicate their time to.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 09, 2021, 11:11:24 PM
Well this isn't a bad fight so far.

Can I ask where you get your boxing news from, Dave? I feel guilty talking about the sport with you and a few other posters who are clearly real boxing fans, but I'm one of the products of what is wrong with the sport. While millions will watch Mayweather fight a squid, I always enjoy a good competitive bout, but I only follow what I hear about, which inevitably is the 5 or 6 big box office fights per year that Sky and BBC dedicate their time to.

www.boxingforum24.com/ is a good forum if you ignore the idiots and boxrec.com is the best resource.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Rory on October 09, 2021, 11:12:23 PM
Well this isn't a bad fight so far.

Can I ask where you get your boxing news from, Dave? I feel guilty talking about the sport with you and a few other posters who are clearly real boxing fans, but I'm one of the products of what is wrong with the sport. While millions will watch Mayweather fight a squid, I always enjoy a good competitive bout, but I only follow what I hear about, which inevitably is the 5 or 6 big box office fights per year that Sky and BBC dedicate their time to.

www.boxingforum24.com/ is a good forum if you ignore the idiots and boxrec.com is the best resource.

Cheers Dave!
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Villa Lew on October 09, 2021, 11:49:52 PM
Good fight that, could be close
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 09, 2021, 11:50:36 PM
Good fight that, could be close

Which one are you watching?
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Villa Lew on October 09, 2021, 11:59:07 PM
Foster v Cunningham, bit of a controversial win for Cunningham
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 10, 2021, 12:38:14 AM
Good. I like him.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Risso on October 10, 2021, 08:47:41 AM
Magnificent by Fury. I thought during the 4th that it wasn’t going to be his night, but the way he fought was outstanding. Wilder did well to last as long as he did, but that punch at the end, wow.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: N'ZMAV on October 10, 2021, 09:03:40 AM
I thought Wilder was beat towards the end of the third - he was struggling. Wilder bid fantastically to recover. The knock downs in the fourth of Fury didn't seem too clean, he seemed off balance for both and stumbled down.

Great finish by Fury - there was no coming back from that.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Risso on October 10, 2021, 09:39:51 AM
Slightly worried at the end of the 10th that Wilder might start the 11th as he finished the 10th and come out all guns blazing, but he was gone by then. Fury was superb, he might not look it but what an athlete he is. If I was Joshua I'd probably think about chucking it in to be honest, both Fury and Wilder would absolutely detroy him.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Risso on October 10, 2021, 09:43:12 AM
Well this isn't a bad fight so far.

Can I ask where you get your boxing news from, Dave? I feel guilty talking about the sport with you and a few other posters who are clearly real boxing fans, but I'm one of the products of what is wrong with the sport. While millions will watch Mayweather fight a squid, I always enjoy a good competitive bout, but I only follow what I hear about, which inevitably is the 5 or 6 big box office fights per year that Sky and BBC dedicate their time to.

Just enjoy what you enjoy Rory and don't worry about it. Football and of course Aston Villa is my main love and I spend hours thinking about them, talking about them and looking up absolutely meaningless trivia about them. Other sports like boxing, cricket and rugby, I know much less about and only watch the big stuff, but so what? Not everybody has to have in depth knowledge or be an expert about everything.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Demitri_C on October 10, 2021, 09:46:53 AM
Congratulations tyson you made the country proud. What a absolutely brilliant fight. Wilder is a warrior as he took a absolute pounding but pathetic of him not show sportsmanship at the end.

I was concerned in the 4th. I think if there was ankther 30 seconds in that round wilder would have won it. But the way he came back at obliterated wilder was excellent. Wilder gassed as we all thought. Really stupid tactics to go that heavy. He was obviously going for early knock out. He was trying to take fury out with body shots 1st round but once fury worked him out wilder went back to his normal aiming for right arm and has nothing else.

Im hoping for fury vs whyte next. Wilder for me should be looking at winner of aj-usyk. He could potentially have more of a chance against those.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Rory on October 10, 2021, 09:50:59 AM
Well this isn't a bad fight so far.

Can I ask where you get your boxing news from, Dave? I feel guilty talking about the sport with you and a few other posters who are clearly real boxing fans, but I'm one of the products of what is wrong with the sport. While millions will watch Mayweather fight a squid, I always enjoy a good competitive bout, but I only follow what I hear about, which inevitably is the 5 or 6 big box office fights per year that Sky and BBC dedicate their time to.

Just enjoy what you enjoy Rory and don't worry about it. Football and of course Aston Villa is my main love and I spend hours thinking about them, talking about them and looking up absolutely meaningless trivia about them. Other sports like boxing, cricket and rugby, I know much less about and only watch the big stuff, but so what? Not everybody has to have in depth knowledge or be an expert about everything.

True enough, thanks Riss.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Risso on October 10, 2021, 09:57:02 AM
Possibly the worst ever post-fight quesion from the BT Sport interviewer last night to Fury "is it the best heavyweight fight you've ever seen?"
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: N'ZMAV on October 10, 2021, 10:08:57 AM
a few of the rounds the bell saved each fighter.... at times both fighters were quite close to needing one more punch to finish it, but they kept getting too close to the other fighter so didn't have enough room for one more swing.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: tomd2103 on October 10, 2021, 01:44:24 PM
In a strange way, I think Fury winning last night makes things a bit more interesting.  Usyk aside, the others have now been beaten a few times, which will hopefully mean the shackles are off a bit. 

Would like to see Wilder v Whyte as think that could be a very explosive fight. 
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Rory on October 10, 2021, 02:11:17 PM
Would like to see Wilder v Whyte as think that could be a very explosive fight.

Oh that would be brilliant.

I guess the question will be, after being knocked out twice by Fury, and aged 35, will Wilder think it's worth the effort to keep fighting and wait for another title shot.

No reason why not, but he seems to be quite a family man and must've made a fair bit from the Fury trilogy, so he could call it a day.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 10, 2021, 02:16:39 PM
Well this isn't a bad fight so far.

Can I ask where you get your boxing news from, Dave? I feel guilty talking about the sport with you and a few other posters who are clearly real boxing fans, but I'm one of the products of what is wrong with the sport. While millions will watch Mayweather fight a squid, I always enjoy a good competitive bout, but I only follow what I hear about, which inevitably is the 5 or 6 big box office fights per year that Sky and BBC dedicate their time to.

Just enjoy what you enjoy Rory and don't worry about it. Football and of course Aston Villa is my main love and I spend hours thinking about them, talking about them and looking up absolutely meaningless trivia about them. Other sports like boxing, cricket and rugby, I know much less about and only watch the big stuff, but so what? Not everybody has to have in depth knowledge or be an expert about everything.

The difference is that it's easy to get news about a Premier League club but sports such as boxing are overlooked. For example, there were two other televised promotions in the UK last night and the one I saw featured an absolute classic. If you weren't up with the news you wouldn't have known they were taking place.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 10, 2021, 03:03:03 PM
Tried to stay awake and must have fallen asleep minutes before it started. Why can't Americans watch fights in the afternoon so they're on at a sensible time for other countries? Selfish twats.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Sexual Ealing on October 10, 2021, 03:13:13 PM
Tried to stay awake and must have fallen asleep minutes before it started. Why can't Americans watch fights in the afternoon so they're on at a sensible time for other countries? Selfish twats.

I was watching in the same time zone and still missed it due to mezcal.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Brazilian Villain on October 10, 2021, 04:43:48 PM
Tried to stay awake and must have fallen asleep minutes before it started. Why can't Americans watch fights in the afternoon so they're on at a sensible time for other countries? Selfish twats.

They obviously just assume you'll still be up waiting for any nocturnal celebrity deaths.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Rory on October 10, 2021, 04:46:52 PM
I stayed up to watch the second Canelo/Golovkin fight, and was so tired I tripped over my cat and broke three ribs. I just watch the highlights now.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: KevinGage on October 10, 2021, 05:20:35 PM
Possibly the worst ever post-fight quesion from the BT Sport interviewer last night to Fury "is it the best heavyweight fight you've ever seen?"

Aye.  He couldn't get away quick enough from 'Boom Boom' Bunce's daft questions.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Demitri_C on October 10, 2021, 05:31:14 PM
The only heavyweight i think from the 90s era that would have stood a chance against fury is lennox lewis. I dont think Tyson would have beaten fury.you saw what happened with tyson when holyfield was dominating him

Would have loved to have seen a lewis on his peak with fury on his peak
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Rory on October 10, 2021, 05:53:46 PM
Possibly the worst ever post-fight quesion from the BT Sport interviewer last night to Fury "is it the best heavyweight fight you've ever seen?"

Aye.  He couldn't get away quick enough from 'Boom Boom' Bunce's daft questions.

I like Bunce but he's not a good interviewer. Far too busy trying to be mates than to ask good questions.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Risso on October 10, 2021, 06:00:11 PM
The only heavyweight i think from the 90s era that would have stood a chance against fury is lennox lewis. I dont think Tyson would have beaten fury.you saw what happened with tyson when holyfield was dominating him

Would have loved to have seen a lewis on his peak with fury on his peak

Tyson wasn't at his peak when fighting Holyfield though, he was 30 and had been inside for four years. Peak Mike Tyson around 1985/6 when he was smashing everybody out of sight within five rounds.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Rory on October 10, 2021, 06:04:54 PM
The only heavyweight i think from the 90s era that would have stood a chance against fury is lennox lewis. I dont think Tyson would have beaten fury.you saw what happened with tyson when holyfield was dominating him

Would have loved to have seen a lewis on his peak with fury on his peak

It's an interesting question because I think Fury has a similar aura to Tyson in the '80s. There's an 'othering' involved, a sense of pathology or darkness, like 'this guy isn't human' or 'this guy is off his rocker'.

As was said of Mike Tyson in his prime, fighters were beaten before they got in the ring, because his opponents were so often unsettled or pure scared of the phenomenon that Mike became - the 'baddest man on the planet'.

Tyson Fury is different, of course, there's more levity, but I do think there is a 'he's fucking nuts' unpredictability to Fury that can unnerve or distract opponents. Most notably with Klitschko, who really let Fury get under his skin.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gary Penrice on October 10, 2021, 08:55:32 PM
Well this isn't a bad fight so far.

Can I ask where you get your boxing news from, Dave? I feel guilty talking about the sport with you and a few other posters who are clearly real boxing fans, but I'm one of the products of what is wrong with the sport. While millions will watch Mayweather fight a squid, I always enjoy a good competitive bout, but I only follow what I hear about, which inevitably is the 5 or 6 big box office fights per year that Sky and BBC dedicate their time to.

https://www.boxingnewsonline.net/

Won't go far wrong with this mate.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: luke:lamf on October 10, 2021, 09:13:39 PM
Just seen the final round, an absolute cinematic knockout - swinging right hook connecting flush to the temple and Wilder falling like a oak, completely done.

I'm disappointed Joshua has come undone, I really like his easy-going manner and general air of decency and it would have been great to have a HW unification fight between two Brits, in the UK. But I guess easy-going doesn't get/keep you at the top in boxing for long.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Rory on October 10, 2021, 10:09:44 PM
Well this isn't a bad fight so far.

Can I ask where you get your boxing news from, Dave? I feel guilty talking about the sport with you and a few other posters who are clearly real boxing fans, but I'm one of the products of what is wrong with the sport. While millions will watch Mayweather fight a squid, I always enjoy a good competitive bout, but I only follow what I hear about, which inevitably is the 5 or 6 big box office fights per year that Sky and BBC dedicate their time to.

https://www.boxingnewsonline.net/

Won't go far wrong with this mate.

Thanks mate!
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 10, 2021, 10:10:21 PM
Well this isn't a bad fight so far.

Can I ask where you get your boxing news from, Dave? I feel guilty talking about the sport with you and a few other posters who are clearly real boxing fans, but I'm one of the products of what is wrong with the sport. While millions will watch Mayweather fight a squid, I always enjoy a good competitive bout, but I only follow what I hear about, which inevitably is the 5 or 6 big box office fights per year that Sky and BBC dedicate their time to.

https://www.boxingnewsonline.net/

Won't go far wrong with this mate.

Thanks mate!

And read the paper version if you get the chance.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Rory on October 10, 2021, 10:35:30 PM
Just seen the final round, an absolute cinematic knockout - swinging right hook connecting flush to the temple and Wilder falling like a oak, completely done.

I'm disappointed Joshua has come undone, I really like his easy-going manner and general air of decency and it would have been great to have a HW unification fight between two Brits, in the UK. But I guess easy-going doesn't get/keep you at the top in boxing for long.

AJ has the beating of Usyk if he fights the right fight. Either way, I think Fury and AJ will fight. There's too much interest and too much money for it not to happen.

AJ will have his rematch with Usyk, and with those two already committed, I would imagine Fury will fight Whyte because he's the mandatory and the most credible opponent available.

It's dangerous to assume, but I cannot see any way that Whyte beats Fury. It then likely comes down to AJ/Usyk.

If AJ wins, Fury fights him in a unification bout.

If Usyk wins, and assuming Fury beats Whyte, he then decides to either: fight Usyk and unify the division, or vacate the WBC and fight Joshua with no belts on the line.

If he chooses the latter, he fights AJ next. If he chooses the former, and beats Usyk (I think he would) he fights AJ next.

If Fury was going to come unstuck, I think it would've been last night. The first Wilder fight he was a huge underdog, the second fight he had the motivation of knowing he probably should've won the first on points. But waiting 18 months to fight a guy you knocked out in your last fight, that would inevitably lead to frustration, complacency and a temptation to get ahead of himself and look at future fights. But he still won, conclusively, and I can't see any way back for Wilder until Fury loses, retires, or vacates a belt.

The most lucrative fight out there for Fury is AJ, and I think that's the one he'll try to make happen.

If AJ beats Usyk, and Fury beats Whyte, we'll have that all-English heavyweight unification bout. And, with AJ pushing for Wembley and Fury pushing for Old Trafford, they'll split the difference and it'll be held at Villa Park. You heard it here first 😉
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Rory on October 10, 2021, 11:36:32 PM
Does anybody know where to find decent highlights from last night?
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: tomd2103 on October 11, 2021, 12:39:18 AM
The only heavyweight i think from the 90s era that would have stood a chance against fury is lennox lewis. I dont think Tyson would have beaten fury.you saw what happened with tyson when holyfield was dominating him

Would have loved to have seen a lewis on his peak with fury on his peak

It's an interesting question because I think Fury has a similar aura to Tyson in the '80s. There's an 'othering' involved, a sense of pathology or darkness, like 'this guy isn't human' or 'this guy is off his rocker'.

As was said of Mike Tyson in his prime, fighters were beaten before they got in the ring, because his opponents were so often unsettled or pure scared of the phenomenon that Mike became - the 'baddest man on the planet'.

Tyson Fury is different, of course, there's more levity, but I do think there is a 'he's fucking nuts' unpredictability to Fury that can unnerve or distract opponents. Most notably with Klitschko, who really let Fury get under his skin.

The sheer size of Tyson Fury is a major thing for any opponent to deal with.  Having a 6'9", nearly 20 stone man leaning on you and grappling with you (let alone punching you at every opportunity) must be exhausting and Wilder looked very tired not too long into both of the last two fights.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Rory on October 11, 2021, 09:48:36 AM
The only heavyweight i think from the 90s era that would have stood a chance against fury is lennox lewis. I dont think Tyson would have beaten fury.you saw what happened with tyson when holyfield was dominating him

Would have loved to have seen a lewis on his peak with fury on his peak

It's an interesting question because I think Fury has a similar aura to Tyson in the '80s. There's an 'othering' involved, a sense of pathology or darkness, like 'this guy isn't human' or 'this guy is off his rocker'.

As was said of Mike Tyson in his prime, fighters were beaten before they got in the ring, because his opponents were so often unsettled or pure scared of the phenomenon that Mike became - the 'baddest man on the planet'.

Tyson Fury is different, of course, there's more levity, but I do think there is a 'he's fucking nuts' unpredictability to Fury that can unnerve or distract opponents. Most notably with Klitschko, who really let Fury get under his skin.

The sheer size of Tyson Fury is a major thing for any opponent to deal with.  Having a 6'9", nearly 20 stone man leaning on you and grappling with you (let alone punching you at every opportunity) must be exhausting and Wilder looked very tired not too long into both of the last two fights.

Definitely. He's a giant of a man.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Demitri_C on October 11, 2021, 11:24:04 AM
The only heavyweight i think from the 90s era that would have stood a chance against fury is lennox lewis. I dont think Tyson would have beaten fury.you saw what happened with tyson when holyfield was dominating him

Would have loved to have seen a lewis on his peak with fury on his peak

Tyson wasn't at his peak when fighting Holyfield though, he was 30 and had been inside for four years. Peak Mike Tyson around 1985/6 when he was smashing everybody out of sight within five rounds.

Yea the tyson in his prime before the rape allegations came out i think would have been a epic fight. The speed moght have given fury some problems so would have been epic to watch.

I still legitimately think lewis is the only heavyweight from that era that could worry fury.

Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 11, 2021, 11:42:52 AM
At his peak Tyson destroyed fighters like no other boxer I can recall, although even then there were signs that if you didn't go down he struggled for ideas. The way Bonecrusher Smith went the distance with little worry showed his limitations. His greatest asset was his finishing power. There have been bigger hitters, but few who could land so many devastating punches so quickly which is why I think he'd have taken out Fury. 
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gary Penrice on October 11, 2021, 11:54:09 AM
Tonight's 2 main fights are interesting.....I see Liam Smith having too much for Fowler & I'm backing a stoppage win between rounds 7 & 9.

Over in Vegas this one's intriguing......I think Wilder will come out all gun's blazing but I'm going for a Fury win on points or a late stoppage....rounds 10 to 12. 

The next couple of weeks alcohol consumption will be courtesy of William Hill  ;D
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Risso on October 11, 2021, 11:58:38 AM
Nicely done.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Risso on October 11, 2021, 12:00:33 PM
At his peak Tyson destroyed fighters like no other boxer I can recall, although even then there were signs that if you didn't go down he struggled for ideas. The way Bonecrusher Smith went the distance with little worry showed his limitations. His greatest asset was his finishing power. There have been bigger hitters, but few who could land so many devastating punches so quickly which is why I think he'd have taken out Fury. 

Smith just held on for the entire fight if I remember it correctly.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 12, 2021, 08:56:26 PM
At his peak Tyson destroyed fighters like no other boxer I can recall, although even then there were signs that if you didn't go down he struggled for ideas. The way Bonecrusher Smith went the distance with little worry showed his limitations. His greatest asset was his finishing power. There have been bigger hitters, but few who could land so many devastating punches so quickly which is why I think he'd have taken out Fury. 

Smith just held on for the entire fight if I remember it correctly.

He did, but he was never in trouble.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Villa Lew on October 16, 2021, 09:51:42 PM
Very impressive from Savannah Marshall tonight, her next fight against American Claressa Shields 11 December in Birmingham, should be good.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 16, 2021, 09:52:29 PM
Very impressive from Savannah Marshall tonight, her next fight against American Claressa Shields 11 December in Birmingham, should be good.

I switched on about ten minutes ago wondering which fights I'd see.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gary Penrice on October 20, 2021, 01:46:15 PM
The Dillian Whyte v Otto Wallin fight is reportedly off due to Whyte injuring his shoulder!
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 23, 2021, 06:11:07 PM
Josh Taylor v Jack Catterall off as well.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 30, 2021, 08:42:58 PM
Craig Richards was a bit ropey for five rounds but did the job well in the sixth.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: charlatan on October 31, 2021, 12:26:05 AM
Is the Boxxer series the same format as Prizefighter but with a different promoter?
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 06, 2021, 08:36:04 PM
Anyone else watching? Or, as it's on our manor, anyone there?
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: charlatan on November 06, 2021, 09:09:32 PM
Flicking back and forth between boxing and snooker. Prizefighter was great for running books on Betfair, so I watched all of them (bet there aren't many in that camp) and iirc made a profit on all but one. No market up for this on Betfair today ::)
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 06, 2021, 09:10:37 PM
Flicking back and forth between boxing and snooker. Prizefighter was great for running books on Betfair, so I watched all of them (bet there aren't many in that camp) and iirc made a profit on all but one. No market up for this on Betfair today ::)

That's t'other channel. The Birmingham show is DAZN. 
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: charlatan on November 07, 2021, 05:30:27 PM
Ha, was wondering how Liverpool was our manor. Then I flicked past Belgrade....he can't mean that.....
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 13, 2021, 10:12:46 PM
Villa get a mention in Shakan Pitters' ringwalk.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Villa Lew on November 13, 2021, 10:23:34 PM
Was he praising Steven Gerrard?
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 13, 2021, 10:54:00 PM
Was he praising Steven Gerrard?

They can say what they like after that fight. Another classic from Mick Hennessy.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 20, 2021, 08:41:52 PM
Anyone else bothering with tonight's show of pugilistic excellence?
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on November 20, 2021, 10:13:38 PM
Can’t say anyone will learn anything about Riakporhe from this- just toying with a washed up opponent
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 20, 2021, 10:34:24 PM
Bring back the glory days of Friday nght Commonwealth title fights from 2/3 empty sports centres.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Drummond on November 29, 2021, 01:38:48 PM
So, Khan v Brook is finally happening. 10 years too late of course, and a money spinner and nothing else.

Brook is an idiot for getting in there after the damage to his eye socket. He was told not to box again because he risked going blind.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on November 29, 2021, 02:56:42 PM
A couple of months of pretending they hate each other to get the PPV audience then no doubt all hugs and kisses after the fight.  Pension top up fight
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 29, 2021, 03:05:50 PM
Between them in the last five years they're 6-5. Khan hasn't been a world champion for ten years, Brook for five.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Villa Lew on November 29, 2021, 10:57:19 PM
And the winner fights Conor Benn
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Rory on November 29, 2021, 11:18:17 PM
It's a bit desperate and they're both well beyond their prime, but it's an interesting match-up of styles, so I think I'll watch.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: taylorsworkrate on November 30, 2021, 01:06:51 AM
I'll probably watch it, but certainly won't be paying
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 04, 2021, 09:12:11 PM
Anthny Yarde will be delighted to learn I've backed him to lose tonight.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on December 04, 2021, 10:16:41 PM
:-) Sure he will be Dave.

Could be a very decent fight if both come to box
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 04, 2021, 10:22:46 PM
It'll certainly be better to watch than what I fear will be the sad sight of Bradley Skeete losing.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on December 04, 2021, 10:31:41 PM
Well he’s started ok & is giving the lad a test
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 04, 2021, 10:47:54 PM
Certainly is, but he's starting to slow down.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on December 04, 2021, 10:57:36 PM
The punches on the top of his head whilst on the floor didn’t help….Sheeraz looked miles away from moving up on that
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Villa Lew on December 04, 2021, 10:58:45 PM
Poor from Sheeraz hitting him twice, while Skeete was down.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 04, 2021, 10:59:09 PM
That was an absolute fucking disgrace.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on December 04, 2021, 11:00:21 PM
Surely should have been a DQ?
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 04, 2021, 11:00:52 PM
Absolutely it should have. Skeete was well on top.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on December 04, 2021, 11:06:18 PM
Be interesting to see what the cards were after 7 rounds….ref seemed to dock a point as an afterthought….dreadful negative fight from Sheeraz, looked absolutely vacant when his corner were trying to get him to try fighting
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 04, 2021, 11:18:00 PM
I didn't give Sheeraz more than two rounds at most. He was three down with three to go and Skeete was never in any danger. Give any boxer three free shots and they'll cause damage.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on December 04, 2021, 11:26:33 PM
Anthny Yarde will be delighted to learn I've backed him to lose tonight.

He obviously heard about your bet Dave….revved him up
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 04, 2021, 11:36:41 PM
He didn't need revving. Once Arthur heard about it he knew he needn't have bothered getting changed.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on December 04, 2021, 11:45:49 PM
:-) all in on Leicester tomorrow. 

Yarde was quality tho
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 04, 2021, 11:47:21 PM
I was impressed by Yarde, but then again I've always liked him. I'm not sure a third fight would be worth the bother - he has Arthur's number.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on December 06, 2021, 10:58:51 PM
It did look like a good fighter vs a journeyman - not sure a trilogy is any benefit to Yarde definitely
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 10, 2021, 10:39:01 PM
A Friday night bonus on Channel 5.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 10, 2021, 11:22:50 PM
Impressive work from Isaac Chamberlain, plus the McKenna brothers.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 11, 2021, 09:14:38 PM
Can anyone be bothered watching Conor Benn go through the motions?
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: PGW on December 13, 2021, 12:45:52 PM
Can anyone be bothered watching Conor Benn go through the motions?
What a punch to finish it.

I also enjoyed the Sonny Edwards fight on Boxnation, didn't even know he was fighting, expecting Paul Buttler but that was called off.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 18, 2021, 08:55:04 PM
Eyes down to watch the Dereck Chisora pension fund top-up.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 18, 2021, 10:21:13 PM
Jack Cullum gets beaten by the better man, the ever-sporting Manchester crowd show their sportsmanship.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: tomd2103 on December 18, 2021, 10:23:34 PM
Eyes down to watch the Dereck Chisora pension fund top-up.

Can't really get too excited about this one.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on December 18, 2021, 10:33:34 PM
Watching the Ritson fight on some free sports channel that I didn’t know I had
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 18, 2021, 10:47:40 PM
Watching the Ritson fight on some free sports channel that I didn’t know I had

Ricky Burns was on there earlier.

Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: PaulTheVillan on December 18, 2021, 10:59:37 PM
Parker tiring now
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on December 18, 2021, 11:05:03 PM
Watching the Ritson fight on some free sports channel that I didn’t know I had

Ricky Burns was on there earlier.

Still ploughing on, feels like what 5 years since Crolla fight?

Ritson been ok, good 9th round against a durable guy
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 18, 2021, 11:09:01 PM
You're missing an absolute war.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: Gareth on December 18, 2021, 11:19:39 PM
Sounds like it
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 18, 2021, 11:32:55 PM
I made it 116-109 but Chisora was beyond courageous. He should retire while he still remembers how to tie his shoelaces.
Title: Re: Boxing 2021
Post by: PaulTheVillan on December 18, 2021, 11:41:31 PM
Chisora is the Sean Dyche of boxing
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