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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on January 01, 2021, 07:00:41 PM
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Massive game. Really concerning now that Barkley is not involved again.
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Has Barkley actually broken his leg ?
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Harsh on Hause.
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Them: De Gea, Wan-Bissaka, Bailly, Maguire, Shaw, Fred, McTominay, Pogba, Fernandes, Rashford, Martial.
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Has Barkley actually broken his leg ?
It's probably dropped off.
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Going to need a lot of running tonight so I can understand the decision to bring Barkley back. Don’t want to push that hamstring
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Come on boys!
On another note, I wish they’d just be honest about injuries. If he’s out with a 5/6 week hamstring injury, just say. It’s not the first time.
Anyway, just smash these Home Counties twats.
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Odd that he can't make on a 9-man bench though.
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Has Barkley actually broken his leg ?
never mind - we've played decent without him
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Agreed
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Surely have him on bench though.
This should certainly help us negotiate a more reasonable price for him
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Agree with general comments on Barkley, for what was meant to be a relatively minor hamstring injury he has missed an amount of games
Was really hoping to see Jack up against AWB tonight so bit disappointed than Barkley isn't back
Somewhat cautious Man United selection, will be interesting to see where Pogba lines up
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Surely have him on bench though.
This should certainly help us negotiate a more reasonable price for him
Why would we buy someone with his injury record?
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what's happened to Trez too? he seems to have vanished
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I fancy it. Jack and Watkins running at that back four....
Re Barkley, no point in telling the opposition in advance about whether he is fit or not..
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Traore can't defend. Worried about our right hand side.
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Would have been tempted to bung Ramsay in for Bert, but it's nice that we are planning to have a go, I suppose.
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what's happened to Trez too? he seems to have vanished
Injured.
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It will be hugely concerning if he isn’t in the line up for Liverpool on Friday
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Would have been tempted to bung Ramsay in for Bert, but it's nice that we are planning to have a go, I suppose.
Traore deserves to start.
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Win please Villa - please! Weird that Barkley still isn’t involved.
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FTF
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The fact that Barkley is not even on the bench makes you wonder if his injury is actually worse than Villa let on
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They seems to have changed their formation with the inclusion of Pogba, probl diamond with --Fred def and Fern up front and to up top. Migth try to hit us in the middle, good Mings is back then. Might then be easier on the flanks for us.
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Where the actual fuck is Barkley? Smith said he was due back after the Wolves game. He's of no use to us if he's going to be a permanent sicknote.
Very harsh decision to drop Hause, let's hope Mings doesn't drop one of his customary bollocks.
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Win tonight puts us 3rd, a point off 2nd with a game in hand.
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A win would be very nice but draw would be fine.
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Win tonight puts us 3rd, a point off 2nd with a game in hand.
a win puts us second
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They've gone very narrow.
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Douglas and McGinn should boss it.
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For what it’s worth I agree with the side he’s picked tonight
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I think we will do well to come away with a draw tonight.
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Win tonight puts us 3rd, a point off 2nd with a game in hand.
a win puts us second
Only if they are going to award 4 points for a win, or dock Man Utd a point for losing
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Win tonight puts us 3rd, a point off 2nd with a game in hand.
a win puts us second
Only if they are going to award 4 points for a win, or dock Man Utd a point for losing
yea my mistake
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Pressure is on them, we are enjoying the ride but 3 points would be gret
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They've gone very narrow.
I think so too. A big battle in midfield can be expected.
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Win tonight puts us 3rd, a point off 2nd with a game in hand.
a win puts us second
Only if they are going to award 4 points for a win, or dock Man Utd a point for losing
yea my mistake
Sounds fair enough though, to dock them a point just for being Man Utd
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Win tonight puts us 3rd, a point off 2nd with a game in hand.
a win puts us second
Only if they are going to award 4 points for a win, or dock Man Utd a point for losing
yea my mistake
Sounds fair enough though, to dock them a point just for being Man Utd
They would be getting away lightly in my opinion
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I don’t envy Dean having to pick between Mings and Hause. Bit harsh to drop him as he’s come in and been rock solid, cannot ask for more from a reserve to step up and I’m sure he feels hard done by not to keep his place.
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They've gone very narrow.
Surprising as would've thought they'd have started Telles as Shaw is pretty verage going forward. Wan Bisaaka also struggles to get decent crosses into the box.
Looks like OGS shown us plenty of respect by playing 3 cms as he'd likely have started Greenwood v most other teams.
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Barkley will probably play in the Liverpool match on Friday. If it's still not right, you can't risk hamstrings; again it's also pretty cold tonight which doesn't help.
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Big question mark over a permanent move.
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Mings has to be in for his distribution and leadership. That’s a lot to lose in a game like this.
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Any Cole 'not being disrespectful to Aston Villa' and then being precisely that. When will someone remind these divs that we have two of the wealthiest owners in the league.
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Sky asking the important questions.
Is Jack good enough to play for yanited ?
They conveniently forget to mention that he’s already better than pretty much all of their squad.
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I think we will do well to come away with a draw tonight.
I felt the same but fortunately the Beeb have just put this stat up to jinx them. :)
15 - Manchester United have lost just one of their last 43 Premier League games against Aston Villa (W31 D11) and are unbeaten in their last 15 since a 0-1 home loss in December 2009. Devilish.
Made me realise we're due a win against them.
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I wonder if Hause would have kept his place if Cavani was playing.
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Win tonight puts us 3rd, a point off 2nd with a game in hand.
a win puts us second
Only if they are going to award 4 points for a win, or dock Man Utd a point for losing
yea my mistake
Sounds fair enough though, to dock them a point just for being Man Utd
Then dock Liverpool four points for being Liverpool as well. Assuming we win by four goals tonight that puts us top of the league.
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Any Cole 'not being disrespectful to Aston Villa' and then being precisely that. When will someone remind these divs that we have two of the wealthiest owners in the league.
Just turned it on and the first thing I saw was Andy Cole, what a Tosser!!
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Martial due a goal in open play apparently. You know what happens next... 1-1 Villa I think.
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Never had any time for these and knew there were cocky as but I remember the arrogance of their fans when walking up Wembley Way in 94 and thinking “we’ve got to beat these”. Job done that day. More of the same please.
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Any Cole 'not being disrespectful to Aston Villa' and then being precisely that. When will someone remind these divs that we have two of the wealthiest owners in the league.
What has been said? Creaming themselves over a lucky move for Jack to Utd?
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Any Cole 'not being disrespectful to Aston Villa' and then being precisely that. When will someone remind these divs that we have two of the wealthiest owners in the league.
Just turned it on and the first thing I saw was Andy Cole, what a Tosser!!
Bit disrespectful that, he very much prefers to be known as Andrew Cole these days.
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Sky asking the important questions.
Is Jack good enough to play for yanited ?
They conveniently forget to mention that he’s already better than pretty much all of their squad.
Just correct that for you ....is better than anyone in their squad.
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Ah great, it's uncle Jim Beglin again.
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Not a good start for me. I was sitting like a twat waiting for the game to start on BT.
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Cash overloaded
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Ah great, it's uncle Jim Beglin again.
Could be worse I’m listening to Gary Neville
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Ah great, it's uncle Jim Beglin again.
On Sky its Gary Neville - another unbiased summarizer :)
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Lovely skill by Tarlos.
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Mancs looking well up for this against us. As fucking usual.
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A few individual errors in the first 5 minutes
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It’s going to be an afternoon of getting massively patronized chaps. Just have to tune it out. Hopefully we fucking stick it to Man U and shut these tossers up.
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Who’s the ref?
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I hate these games against the darlings of the media (to quote Tony Morley). I feel the combined forces of the whole of the sporting world is against us.
Let's get something against this lot!
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Who’s the ref?
Michael Oliver
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Who’s the ref?
Michael Oliver
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We're a bit slow to get going here.
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We keep giving the ball away.
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gotta retain the ball better.
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Stop giving the ball away
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Sloppy
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We’re going to get battered if we keep giving the ball away like this.
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Well he’s not giving Watkins anything at the moment
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Poor so far. Being very wasteful when we have the ball.
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They've started well. But we can stay in this - don't concede.
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To be fair, the Manc twats have started at breakneck speed and are pressing very hard. Can't see them keeping it up for 90 minutes.
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Not boding well so far. Allowing them to dominate.
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Really poor so far.
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man utd trying to play 100mph football from the kick off.
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Close SJM!
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We’ve not got into this game yet at all. McGinn and AEG giving the ball away a lot.
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Need to keep the ball a bit
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To be fair, the Manc twats have started at breakneck speed and are pressing very hard. Can't see them keeping it up for 90 minutes.
100% this, they've clearly been told to press us.
We've had the best chance so far though, unlucky McGinn.
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I know we play on the counter but it can only work for so long before the pressure will tell. And they have way too many good players not take advantage. We have make better use of the ball when we get it. So far it’s been really sloppy and we are dropping deeper and deeper. That only leads to trouble.
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Close from SJM. Best move of the match
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Unlucky SJM. Good move
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Tough start. Need to stay calm.
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Good tackle from Mings.
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Great tracking back from Mings
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Has Doug touched the ball yet?
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We're doing things that I always get pissed off at other teams for doing, eg going down under a challenge as I'd hit by a sniper and then jumping back up. I think it's all part of the winning mentality though.
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Poor free kick by Jack
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AEG not picking i up p his man at all at the moment
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Better.
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Gamble Watkins!
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Has Doug touched the ball yet?
Not sure Traore has.
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Douglas’ new hairdo suggests he is applying for a job at a bank in the morning
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Has Doug touched the ball yet?
Not sure Traore has.
He took a corner. Does that count?
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Don't half piss about on the ball some times
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More even contest now
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Playing really well, I think.
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Has Doug touched the ball yet?
Not sure Traore has.
He took a corner. Does that count?
With the benefit of doubt I think he touched it when taking it.
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Martinez! Brilliant. Cushioned header n all!
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This is a lot better now. We’ve settle down a bit
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We’ve had a good 10 mins here
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Poor from McGinn
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Sensational goal keeping there. Brilliant
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Martinez! Brilliant. Cushioned header n all!
I think my 'TV' is a couple of minutes behind yours.
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The build up for the one Bailly put behind was superb, a few of them look like they've been in a race already.
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I just don’t like that long out ball to Watkins. They have two players always up there to cut it out
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Martinez! Brilliant. Cushioned header n all!
I think my 'TV' is a couple of minutes behind yours.
I'm doing it legit.... 😉
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Bert is doing absolutely fuck all out there.
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Hope that's not a pen
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Bert is doing absolutely fuck all out there.
Agreed..
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Fuck off Beglin
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Ming is fucking careless.
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Fuck off Beglin
He's not on the channel I'm watching, but I agree with the sentiment!
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Pogba too influential for my liking
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We look a little sluggish
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Yes, Pogba looks sharp
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Ming is fucking careless.
Very difficult to jump and keep your arms down though.
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Yes, Pogba looks sharp like a sheep
FTFY.
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Rubbish Traore.
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McGinn can be frustrating. His first thought is always to shield the ball and activate his arse as if he doesn't have the confidence in his ability to beat a player. It means we often lose the impetus of a turnover when possession is gained.
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I think they are the best team we've played so far. This is a nailbiter.
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Targett having a good game
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Targett having a good game
He’s excellent
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Its just nice to compete, for so many years weve rolled over because its "Man Utd".
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We can do these. UTV!
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Ref needs to start thinking about a yellow for their midfield, they're roating fouls on Jack so far.
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I see Pogba has decided to turn up, just for us. Fucking typical.
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What the fuck was that from Traore ?
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Fucking useless.
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Fucking mings again
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1-0 Martial.
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Fuck.
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Fuck me. 1-0
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Bollocks! Hoping we'd hang on till half time!
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Traore is crap.
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That’s the worst free kick I’ve seen in years
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Frick.
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Absolutely shit by Mings
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Mings gonna Mings
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Typical. We been all over them
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Unlucky
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Fucking bollocks.
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Wouldn't blame Mings there, it was unlucky. McGinn failed to track back on Wan-Bissaka
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Thank god Tyrone’s back for his passing though eh?
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Shocking free-kick and lack of defending.
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Bizarre free kick. Total waste and then they go and fucking score. These are ethical margins. They are NOT a better side.
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Three fucking defenders and Martial still gets his header in between them
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Must be how Blues fans feel. No matter how well they are playing they’re doomed to failure against us.
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That free kick really pissed me off. Change at HT.
Unlucky with the goal.
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They sucked us in and we ended up on the wrong end of a three on three, running backwards. That's why you have to take your chances - actually shocking waste from Traore before.
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I was expecting Pogba to score because the commentator had pointed out how long it had been since he scored at Old Trafford.
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Head it out in the direction it came from.
Mings cant even do the fucking basics.
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How do any of you think Mings is at fault for that? The problem was the amount of space on our left.
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For all our good play, you have to say they've looked the more likely to score
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Every game he gives away a scoring chance. Every single fucking game. Madness to drop Hause.
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Such a cheap goal to give away that.
Started off by woeful free kick from Traore.
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Don't understand this thing about Mings FFS
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Absolutely crucial we don't concede another before the break.
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Traore is a load of shit too. Two dreadful free kicks in a row.
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How many times has fucking Martial scored against Villa?
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How do any of you think Mings is at fault for that? The problem was the amount of space on our left.
Mings should have blocked the cross instead of flailing like a Great British halibut on the deck of a Great British trawler
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Ramsey for Bert at HT.
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Traore is a load of shit too. Two dreadful free kicks in a row.
He’s a 30:10:60 player. The 30 can be spectacular it’s just not often enough. The 10 is when he’s just doing what’s expected. The 60 happens most of the time and it’s really awful
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Traore is a load of shit too. Two dreadful free kicks in a row.
He's not a load of shit. But he isn't at the races today. I think Keinan <-> Traore should happen sooner rather than later.
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Ramsey for Bert at HT.
Pretty sure that will happen in the second half although AEG is also not at his best
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Really could've done with Barkley fit for this, we're doing fine in CM with just two in there but lack a bit of forward driving.
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Very poor goal to give away. Rubbish.
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Traore is a load of shit too. Two dreadful free kicks in a row.
He's not a load of shit. But he isn't at the races today. I think Keinan <-> Traore should happen sooner rather than later.
Keinan Davis is absolute bollocks
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Really could've done with Barkley fit for this, we're doing fine in CM with just two in there but lack a bit of forward driving.
100%
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Our flanks are a bit too open for them
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Bert is a passenger on the right.
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We dominated periods of the half but never looked like scoring. Criminal waste from Traore.
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15 mins where we did ok but far too sloppy.
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Poor. Need more from AEG and Bert
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Really disappointed so far. Loads of the ball, but haven't looked like scoring. Then give away a really cheap goal.
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Traore is a load of shit too. Two dreadful free kicks in a row.
He’s a 30:10:60 player. The 30 can be spectacular it’s just not often enough. The 10 is when he’s just doing what’s expected. The 60 happens most of the time and it’s really awful
Yes..or he's the sort of player who will play well for two or three games, but not be able to keep it going. There seems to be little middle ground as when he's poor, he looks terrible.
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Disappointing. Traore is incredibly shit when he plays like this. Mings cant do the basics and we look really tentative around their box. Jack being closed down really well and doing all his work miles from their box. For all that, we have looked the better team.
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Frustrating that. Playing well until the last 20 yards. Soft goal. Mings did well not to get drawn out but then seemed to forget to block the cross?!? Plenty O'Time yet.
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Big test for Deano in the second half. Real challenge to get anything out of this game.
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Traore has been absolute dog shit. Really awful
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Traore is a load of shit too. Two dreadful free kicks in a row.
He’s a 30:10:60 player. The 30 can be spectacular it’s just not often enough. The 10 is when he’s just doing what’s expected. The 60 happens most of the time and it’s really awful
He’s a typical wide player. Brilliant one match, shocking the next and you’re never quite sure which will turn up. Unfortunately, we know which it is tonight so far.
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Think we’ll struggle now.
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How do any of you think Mings is at fault for that? The problem was the amount of space on our left.
Mings should have blocked the cross instead of flailing like a Great British halibut on the deck of a Great British trawler
Absolutely hopeless, stick out a leg and clear it
Our front three have been very poor, Traore in particular. Have loads of possession but no cutting edge
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Need to sort Bert out at half time. He's not contributing enough in either direction.
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Our flanks are a bit too open for them
Actually don't think it's as bad as the other night, Man. United are pretty good at the quick one touch combinations between 2-3 players that can open up space quickly.
Decent performance considering we weren't great in the opening 10. Agree with Gary Neville though, for the amount of set pieces we've had it's just been floated nonsense bar the first which De Gea had to fist away.
Have to do better if we get same amount in second half.
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Better side on the ball. Lacking that final pass.
McTominey has committed 3 fouls on Jack now, he has to go in the book for the next one. We need a little more belief in the final 3rd, as when you turn their defence, they're so ordinary.
Points in this for us Villa.
Stupidly soft goal to give away.
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Doesn’t matter how we play against these feckers, play well, play shit, they always grab a goal out of nowhere. Think we have played well but Traore is a passenger and we lack a bit of cutting edge tonight. Some of our football is beautiful.
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El Ghazi looks poor.Conceding far too much on that flank.
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I thought we were below par in that first half. Created absolutely nothing from dead ball situations and they just looked the more likely. Grealish and AEG quiet, Watkins outnumbered all the time and Traore showed his inconsistency. Sloppy at times especially the goal which was a poor team goal to concede. Still I. It though, they really ain’t all that.
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Annoying to be behind, have been the better team. Need to take advantage of all our set pieces better.
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Pretty even half, we've got into some good areas, but fair play they're defending well. Some poor set pieces, I've little expectation when we get a corner at present.
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Good half and we could easily be winning. Watkins again been asked to perform miracles as the lone striker.Pogba decided to have his 1 in 6 performance. We're not out of this though.
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I hate these feckers
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Those superredsyanightedattacckattackatack are (in comparison with previous teams) not so super. Our team (in comparison with previous teams of recent history) is made of better more sophisticated stuff. We need to find a way to win this.
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Traore is just a passenger. his only contribution is two awful free kicks.
We've had a good half McGinn's gone close. They started at a rapid tempo it took us about 10 mins to get into the game. We are playing the match in their half and they're just hitting on the counter. Should be a good 2nd half
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We’ve had lots of possession but, don’t look as if we know what to do with it around their box.
Traore very poor. El Ghazi not at the races. Watkins done very little. We really need to step this up. A second goal from them and it’s game over.
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We’ll lose - fucking United ******.
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Where the actual fcuk is Barkley?!
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Neville hit the nail on the head. We’ve been the better team but have made very few chances.
They look more threatening with their link up play around the box.
Still in it though. Come on you lions
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Hause must be really pissed off.
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Looked overawed in the first 10, but then settled and had some good spells. Disappointing goal to concede, but not really sure Mings could have done that much.
Given the ball away too often, but they are as well and I think we will get chances.
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Villa looking fine. Got half of the possession and just missing that last urgency and desire in front of goal.
Traore is sleepwalking and AEG is affording Man U too much respect.
Pogba waking up and looking uncharacteristically lively , trying to get some offer in January window I guess.
Come on Villa , You can do this!
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Fucking Pogba decided to turn up.
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Hause must be really pissed off.
I'm guessing you may not be happy with Mings?
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We're two players off being a Top 6 side. Both are wingers. We have 3 and not one is good enough.
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Let’s not forget, our expectations have been seriously raised. It’s been a magic season so far. We are playing against a side and squad that really relative to what’s been spent on it over the past few years has massively underperformed. But they are all still individually very good players, some with tremendous experience. If we lose, it might just be that on the day they were better or took advantage of our mistakes. We have to seriously over-perform to win against the very best and we have proven we can do it. But it’s a lot to ask to always play to that level a season removed from almost going down.
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Hause must be really pissed off.
I'm guessing you may not be happy with Mings?
I can see what he’s saying though. If you earn the shirt you should keep it.
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Hause must be really pissed off.
Too fucking right, and rightly so.
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Some really good football, but some of the sloppy passes..... arghhhhhhh.
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Hause must be really pissed off.
Been absolutely rock solid since he came in, but dropped for the ‘bigger name”.
We need way more out of the two wide players. I’d take Traore off now.
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United have never lost a home Premier league match, when leading at half time, it's gotta happen one day, we can still do it, have played some good stuff, final ball poor.
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These are like a Steve Bruce side. Generally clueless and aimless play, punctured by moments of individual quality.
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Hause must be really pissed off.
I'm guessing you may not be happy with Mings?
Not at all. He does something really crap every single game. Didn't deserve to just walk back into the team ahead of Hause. Sends entirely the wrong signal out. Mings has been our least consistent 'regular' this year.
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Gabby is giving his invaluable insights.
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Where the actual fcuk is Barkley?!
Having a party round Ivo Stas place.
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United have never lost a home Premier league match, when leading at half time, it's gotta happen one day, we can still do it, have played some good stuff, final ball poor.
Only 2 crosses out of 17 found their mark. Therein lies the issue.
Ramsey for Traore and Jack out wide for me.
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Mings is a better all round player than Hause. He was always going to come straight back in.
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Man, you lot get really down. We are playing some very good football against one of the "Super League". Our final ball has let us down and one defensive mistake has cost us a goal. There's 45 minutes to go. Stop your bitching.
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Mings is a better all round player than Hause. He was always going to come straight back in.
Working well that so far.
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We're two players off being a Top 6 side. Both are wingers. We have 3 and not one is good enough.
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Agreed, they’re all decent against mid and lower table sides but marked out of it tonight so far. That said, AEG and Trez have been markedly better than last season. Incremental steps, I guess.
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Not bad considering we're playing with ten men.
Bert has a lazy, languid style and tonight he's living up to it.
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Fucking Pogba decided to turn up.
He has the look of "who the fuck do these guys think they are" about him, so he's also taken the piss a bit.
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Mings is a better all round player than Hause. He was always going to come straight back in.
Working well that so far.
Hause is a good blocker but gives the ball away far too often
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Mings is a better all round player than Hause. He was always going to come straight back in.
You’re probably right but not much incentive when you’ve come in and perfumed admirably.
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What would you give to put Barkley on now. Really disappointing he’s out, we are crying out for him this half.
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Hause must be really pissed off.
I'm guessing you may not be happy with Mings?
I can see what he’s saying though. If you earn the shirt you should keep it.
It does seem to send out the message that Mings is untouchable when he's fit and available.
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Hause must be really pissed off.
Been absolutely rock solid since he came in, but dropped for the ‘bigger name”.
Agreed. I'd have put Mings on the bench and told Hause to go out and keep his shirt.
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What would you give to put Barkley on now. Really disappointing he’s out, we are crying out for him this half.
Would be a great sub for last 30 minutes. We lack anyone really on the bench to strike fear into Man. United but Barkley certainly would as he's scored a couple past them in his career.
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Annoying great attacking free kick wasted and then boom they are 1 up.
Mings was awful for the goal
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How many minutes was that without conceeding? Anyone?
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McTomenay on Grelish duty...wish I could put money on him gettting a yellow this half :D
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Get Bert off ffs
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Get Traore off, he offers nothing in attack and even less when they have the ball.
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Well that was nice from Bertie
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Unlucky Ollie.
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Some good moves from us, decent save there from De Gea. Started second half like Chelsea. Need to score.
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If anyone has earned a change of luck in 2021 its Ollie Watkins
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If anyone has earned a change of luck in 2021 its Ollie Watkins
Yes but 2020 wasn’t all bad for him. He joined Aston Villa
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much better quality from bertie there
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I think Bert got a talking to
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Nice move lads. Good effort AEG.
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Traore looking better this half.
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AEG should have passed to Ollie
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Weve scored in every away game so far. We're not stopping now.
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Combinations working and starting to play through them like they've been doing to us. Wild slash from AEG though.
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We’re wasting too many chances.
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Better this half
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Both their CBs on a yellow now.
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who wanted bertie off ????
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Yesssssss!
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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Always said that Troare is a great player 😂
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Yea yea yea!
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I love you Bert
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Traore is fucking shit 😂
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Traaaaoooooorrrrre!!!!
I'll shut up now.
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Where's VAR? We know the drill! :'(
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GET BERTIE OFF!!!
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GTFIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!
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Bert!!!!!!
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YAY!
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Hope he learns that good things can happen if you show up and apply yourself from that :D
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I’m just tuning in in Cincinnati. And what a time to join in...
Goal!!
So how are we playing? We look sharp and creative... again!
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Get freaking in!
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Deserved.
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Get the fuck in.
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Traaaaoooooorrrrre!!!!
I'll shut up now.
🤣🤣
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Come on VAR.
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There it is
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Bollocks. Pen.
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Deserved. Really positive approach since break
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Traoré what a player! ;-)
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Traaaaoooooorrrrre!!!!
I'll shut up now.
Nah. It's the replacement orange dot / Admiral's pie / SCORCHIO!
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Another fucking Man U penalty
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Oh piss off
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Penalty
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Sorry Jim Beglin - your heroes might not win.
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Obligatory
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Bollocks. Pen.
Oh FFS. I've only just seen our goal.
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Come on VAR be our friend
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United pen what a surprise.
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No fucking contact
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Classic yanighted
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Bollocks. We don't half make it hard for ourselves.
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Looks a pen?
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It's a penalty nowadays but it's bollox isn't it?
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FUCK ME 2-1
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He trips him fucking self up. Fucking joke. Penalty after fucking penalty.
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Fucking wank....but giving away a penalty is fucking criminal against these fuckcunts.
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Hate Fernandes so fucking much
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In this day and age Luiz was fucking stupid not to just let him go.
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Fuck off.
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Wankers.
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How many fucking dodgy penalties do Man Utd get???
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What a joke, Pogba tipped himself.
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Jammy feckers every time
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Pogba kicked himself and went down
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Tripped himself up...bizarre
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Fuck off you manc wankers!
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****** that’ll be the game.
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Some faceless fucker in the VAR room giving it to Man U.....who knew?
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Cheating fucks enabled by a pathetic ref.
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Luiz should not have put himself in that position. Why were his hands all over him? Unnecessary.
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Pogba kicked himself and went down
Arm goes in Luiz face aswell, give up with this game sometimes. Not to have a look at the monitor is an insult.
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Pogba trips himself up and Man Utd get a penalty? Utter bullshit.
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Nobody predicted that one.
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That is never a penalty in a month of Sundays.
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Well taken penalty. Martinez agonisingly close though.
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Never a penalty. VAR doesn't stop that shite.
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How is that a penalty in the eyes of two professional referees?
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Absolute FUCKING disgrace. That is never a penalty. Pogba sticks his arm in Doug's face ffs. Fuck off Oliver you c**t.
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Jammy, cheating bastards!
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Pogba tripped himself there but once it was given they’re not overturning it, not so OT anyway.
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I'm seething. I fucking hate this lot.
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11 penalties they’ve had this season. 11.
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Nobody predicted that one.
Shocked I am. Shocked I tells yer.
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How is that a penalty in the eyes of two professional referees?
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When it’s fucking manure.
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One thing I do know, if that was the other way around, no way would we have got a penalty.
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With the pen and the Mings mistake. That should be all the obvious bad shit over with.
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Watch them score another for totally false score line
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Yet again these spawney tossers get a soft penalty and that odius little shit scores.
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No fucking contact
Tripped himself up. Can't believe VAR didn't pick.that up as Luiz made no contact at all.
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Tripped himself up.
Ridiculous decision.
When are we going to get something from VAR?
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That high boot from wan-bissaka is much closer to a penalty than the one he gave.
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Surely that should be a yellow aswell?!
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Let's fucking batter them now and let them know they've been in a game.
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Tripped himself up.
Ridiculous decision.
When are we going to get something from VAR?
Unfortunately not " a clear or obvious error"
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I don't blame any team for losing heart when they're playing this mob, they play to a completely different set of rules to everyone else. Dodgy pen tonight, ridiculous amount of added time and no booking for Matic the other night.
Hate them.
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A stat from the BBC:
That's 27 Premier League penalties for Manchester United since Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's first game in charge.
Seven more than anyone else in that time.
Fuckers
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Tripped himself up.
Ridiculous decision.
When are we going to get something from VAR?
Unfortunately not " a clear or obvious error"
Neither was our penalty against Brighton, nor goal against West Ham.
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Good effort from Martinez; he almost saved the penalty from that jug-eared Mr Bean lookalike Fernandes.
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Fucking cheating spawny bastards. I hope Old Trafford gets obliterated by a meteorite tomorrow. C**ts.
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Luiz makes some daft tackles at times
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After equalizing that is such a massive kick in the bollocks.
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Lucky there
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Cash been poor tonight
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It was a bit dopey from Luiz. Soon as Pogba feels any touch he does that feigned trip. Naive.
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Watkins looking a bit tired.
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Bert’s tracking back is criminal.
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Pogba can't shoot for shit
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Emi is like a sweeper at times. Brilliant.
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That was the game there. Hopefully we get a big chance like that in last 15 minutes.
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Come on Risso slag one of our players off again we need a goal.
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We need a change. We will get another chance in this game.
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Something has to go for Watkins sooner or later. Maybe this will help - Watkins is fucking shit, get him off.
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It’s like a normal game against these fuckcunts now.
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They're killing us down our right.
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Traore is a huge defensive liability.
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Get Traore/cash off. Anwar out to right, Jack on left.
Getting destroyed down our right
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What a save
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They’ve got so many players with real pace
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Save Martinez.
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Elmo on to tidy up on the right, or Ramsey for Traore and a reshuffle.
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Strolling through us now.
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Make a sub eh Dean?
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We need an extra striker in this window
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It’s not the first team to target that side. Leeds killed us down that side. It’s amazing teams don’t do that on the left because when it breaks down Jack would expose them. We need a harder working player than Bert when that happens.
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Crying out for a Barkley cameo.
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Next time we play them we need to put someone on edge of the box for corners, Pogba scored one like that last season.
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Ramsey on for Traore.
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no booking for matic there wtf
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no booking for matic there wtf
Ridiculous
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Tripped himself up.
Ridiculous decision.
When are we going to get something from VAR?
Unfortunately not " a clear or obvious error"
Except it was in this case. Exactly the kind of thing VAR was introduced for. Matic just scythed down Grealish and no yellow.
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We've given them far too much space all game.
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Another foul on Grealish goes unpunished
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no bopking for shaw?
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mings thats a chance
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Not going to be our night I fear
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Davis on for AEG.
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Davis nearly gets injured bumping into the ref.
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It truly feels like this is “professional” wrestling where the script is pre-determined. They have told both teams just how it’s going to go and who is going to win.
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I hate these ******.
We're a decent side. There's zero getting away from it, we're on the up, regardless of this result.
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Mings should've scored that. Not sure we'll get a better chance than that.
Get Cash on all the set pieces a.s.a.p, great cross.
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A Davis goal would be a great way to start the year
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Cash has got a good cross on him
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United get their usual penalty ,they play for them and more often than not get one .Still remember the disgraceful one they got last season at Villa Park
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no booking again for matic joke
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2 decent heading chances for Mings there. They are fouling now to break up play. Davis on, this is where our lack of depth really shows.
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How many blatantly late challenges does MAtic have to make to get a yellow?
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Watkins and Mings should have both done better with their headers.
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Having Davis on the bench when we need a goal let alone bringing him in tells you a lot about where we are in our own evolution. I hope we are not doing that next season.
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Matic again not booked.
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We miss too many sitters. Even when beating underlings like the Albion, we miss too many fucking sitters.
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Game's over when Davis comes on.
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As Del Boy used to say "deja vu Rodney."
We go again, I suppose...
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Game's over when Davis comes on.
Cue goal from Davis?
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Having Davis on the bench when we need a goal let alone bringing him in tells you a lot about where we are in our own evolution. I hope we are not doing that next season.
We shouldn’t have done it this season.
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The good news is though is we create chances. Lots of them. With better players we will put teams away more often than not.
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Matic. Again.
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Davis isn't helping this team, not playable up front loosing the ball
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Game's over when Davis comes on.
Cue goal from Davis?
Was worth a go wasn’t it
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Having Davis on the bench when we need a goal let alone bringing him in tells you a lot about where we are in our own evolution. I hope we are not doing that next season.
We shouldn’t have done it this season.
Nothing against the lad personally, and of course I hope he sticks it down my throat, but when he comes on I know we’ve run out of legitimate options.
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Game's over when Davis comes on.
Cue goal from Davis?
Was worth a go wasn’t it
haha it was wasn't it.
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no booking again for matic joke
Beyond a joke.
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Keinan, now is the time to score a goal
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I feel entirely confident in predicting that Davis won't score for us again. Ever. He's goal-repellent.
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gave the ball away too amany times tonight
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Need another option up front in the window. Watkins is playing well but we need goals - Davies is NOT a premier league striker (arguably not even championship)... the lad at Celtic worth a punt maybe?
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Watkins has been poor tonight.
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I feel entirely confident in predicting that Davis won't score again. Ever. He's goal-repellent.
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Another Matic foul. Finally a yellow
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So apparently Matic can do three poor fouls before getting yellow.
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Ollie is completely gassed.
Needs resting for Liverpool imo.
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Watkins has been poor tonight.
He looks knackered
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Watkins has been poor tonight.
He must be running on empty. He playing a thankless role.
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Ollie is completely gassed.
Needs resting for Liverpool imo.
We don't exactly have any other viable alternatives.
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A steady stream of "tactical fouling" to break up the play,
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COme on Villa a Fergie time equalizer would be hilarious.
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5 minutes of Smithy time.
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Cash forces a good save
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Ollie Watkins looks completely sapped of all confidence
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Good effort Cash.
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Just not our night
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Ollie Watkins looks completely sapped of all confidence
Tired
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Ollie Watkins looks completely sapped of all confidence
Tired
That too. But this stretch of games without a goal not to mention the ones he’s been robbed of must be having an impact.
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When the margins are this small and when you're playing 12 men, you need to score the chances that come. That is now our biggest issue to moving on from where we are (upper mid table) to where we belong. We need a top quality goal scorer.
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It had to fall to Davis didn’t it.
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davis will never score ever
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Fuck it, a bit unlucky there I think.
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There was Keinan’s chance to be a hero
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Fuck, Davis that was it!
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Jammy fuckers
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And our last chance falls to....Davis. Great.
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the last chance just had to fall to Donkey Davies did;nt it
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Can’t blame Davis for that.
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The jammy Mancs do it again.
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Last twenty minutes looked like the players were starting to be a bit tired, with some loose passes. Also think we need to be direct on the counter attack at times.
FA Cup brings a chance to rotate a few players ahead of a number of games in January.
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Davis should've squared that.
Ah well. Proud of them, this is a proper team.
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Wasn't there a handball there?
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Looked like handball at the end there, but doubt we will see another replay of it on the MUTV takeover of SKY.
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Didn't win it but again we've played well.
Pick holes as much as you like but were now a decent side competing in every game.