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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on December 26, 2019, 02:00:52 PM
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And there you go. The very defiinition of madness.
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The only possible way he might change this is to have El Ghazi and Trez as wingers and Grealish as a false forward. But I'm not holding my breath at all.
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Atleast hes moved Grealish back into the middle.
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El Ghazi starting again!
He has either put Grealish in the midfield or its Marvelous and Luis holding.
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4231?
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Ye gods, Wes up top on his own again. Jack back in midfield I guess.
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First tactical sub on 68 minute and no, I don't expect to be us to be on course for 1, let alone 3 points when he does.
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Hmmm
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Atleast hes moved Grealish back into the middle.
Have you noticed who has been scoring our only goals lately ?
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Let’s set some traps...
And concede 4.
I live in hope for a good performance this afternoon...
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I don't like it.
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Wtf is that?
4241
442
433
Fucked if I can see any logic in that*
*authorities win convincingly I will declare he is a tactical genius
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Villa trying to restore the true meaning of Christmas by getting the most number of people to say 'Jesus Christ!'
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Atleast hes moved Grealish back into the middle.
Have you noticed who has been scoring our only goals lately ?
Have you noticed how we have no control over the midfield when hes out wide?
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That line up is just so lame, he’s asking for criticism. El Ghazi is a disgrace and the rest don’t like getting their shorts dirty, only Grealish gives you any confidence. 1-3.
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Win the game or this will become very bad.
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What in the mother of fuck?
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Least their line up looks Championship standard too.
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Not happy with that line up but get the 3 points and a decent performance.
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Atleast hes moved Grealish back into the middle.
Have you noticed who has been scoring our only goals lately ?
Have you noticed how we have no control over the midfield when hes out wide?
I don’t want him out wide either but I do want him attacking not defending.
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Come on Villa. At least for once in my lifetime, don't ruin Boxing Day.
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I really don’t get what he’s trying to prove to everyone by constantly picking Wesley. I get it tat he’s our record signing, is still young and needs time etc etc. But you have an experienced forward at the club that could with a run of games provide something entirely different. In the press conference when questioned about him Kodjia had done what was asked by scoring twice and looking mobile and inventive in the game vs Liverpool. Would it kill Dean Smith to try something a little different after 4 defeats? Nope. The answer is stick with Wesley and bring in Elmo. That’s gonna fix it. Fuck me.
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4231?
At home as well, this could be the end of him?
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Heaton
Elmo Engels Hause Targett
Nakamba Douglas
Trezeguet Grealish El Ghazi
Wesley
Two players for every position, maybe, but not the quality, that's for sure. Just fricking win.
You lose, you leave. You win, the owners throw more money at you and you get a second chance to build the squad, much needed, but a risk nevertheless.
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Heaton
Elmo Engels Hause Targett
Nakamba Douglas
Trezeguet Grealish El Ghazi
Wesley
Two players for every position, maybe, but not the quality, that's for sure. Just fricking win.
I hope this is what he has done but El Ghazi and Wes starting is asking for trouble.
Still would not surprise me to see 4 3 3 with Jack in Midfield
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I agree TV. It's got to the point where constantly keeping him in the side is having a negative effect on him and the team. I'd like to know what Jota needs to do to get picked ahead of El Ghazi and Trezeguet.
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Norwich
1Krul
2Aarons
6Zimmermann
5Hanley
3Byram
27Tettey
19Trybull
17Buendía
23McLean
14Cantwell
22Pukki
Substitutes
8Vrancic
11Hernández
12Lewis
18Stiepermann
21Fährmann
24Amadou
32Srbeny
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To be fair, I'm. Not sure what lineup he could stick out there that people would find a positive in right now.
There are a bunch of formations that could play from. That team.
4231
433
4213
4411
442
4132
4123
The players could shape to any of those.
I hope it means something a little different and putting elmo in makes us hopefully more solid.
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Sincerely hope there is a material change in formation today. Looks a 4231 with a wide open midfield without the ball. Don't agree with persisting with Wesley and if he doesn't start well the crowd won't spare him. Same for AEG.
To be fair looking at the bench, the midfield options are limited. Konsa's pace should enable us to play a higher(ish) line and I can see why Elmo has come back in for his experience alone. But there is an element of change for change sake about those two changes when the real problems are elsewhere.
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Two wingers? Yeah, fuck it? Why not. It looks team that is going to go all out for a win. Which it fucking should be. COYVB.
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Come on Villa. He says with an air of false positivity.
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Two wingers? Yeah, fuck it? Why not. It looks team that is going to go all out for a win. Which it fucking should be. COYVB.
Definitely 4 attackers in there. So a positive start at least.
Hopefully this is more of a 'score what you like we'll score more than you' phase.
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Come on you Villa boys! Fuck the fuckers!
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How many central defensive combos have we now had in the last month?! I wonder if these two have trained much together in practice matches.
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Wesley, Trez and El Ghazi are just decoys. I think the plan is for Elmo to swing in loads of crossing for the Norwich defence to head out to where Jack and Luiz will be waiting to shoot.
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Fuck is Grant Holt wearing?
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Fuck is Grant Holt wearing?
Hopefully not a villa shirt.
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I despair at that line up.
5pm "we go again"
Prove me wrong Villa, please!
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Grealish is playing as a 10 according to Terry.
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Perfect! At the in-laws and Hesgoals is blocked. Anybody?
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In term of proven quality, one of the worst XIs I can recall seeing on a teamsheet in a long long time.
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This relies on getting good performances from all of AEG, Trez and wes. Good luck, us.
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Grealish is playing as a 10 according to Terry.
Can see that, with Luiz and Nakamba playing deeper. If we are going to play with a 10, then I might have been tempted to play Jota there, as despite his limitations, he can create.
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Fuck is Grant Holt wearing?
Hopefully not a villa shirt.
The Brazilian Grant Holt is though.
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Brave decision when we have a striker who struggles to score to drop a player who has scored vs Norwich for fun in the past.
Oh well never mind, come on the Villa!
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3 poor players in the team at the moment .Trez and Elghazi , their finishing has been awful lately and Wesley , not looking like scoring in Hillfields . Douglas looking crap in the last game . Dont look good this team so expecting 5 0 Vila now.
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Any idea why Amazon will not play?
I'm abroad but have full WiFi
All I have is villa logo?
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Far from the team I'd have picked.
Let's hope it works out o.k, it needs to.
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I’m really not sure what everyone is moaning about...DS hasn’t got a secret magic player tree to grow new players. Would playing JK over Wes really improve much? Would playing Conor or Lansbury enable him to bring Jack back into the middle like it appears he has today with AEG and Trez out wide? Does Fred offer more defensive protection than Elmo with an inexperienced centre back pair?
Let’s see what happens...just fuckin win please Villa!
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Any idea why Amazon will not play?
I'm abroad but have full WiFi
All I have is villa logo?
You need to be in the UK. Rights issues anywhere else.
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'What have I done'?
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Any idea why Amazon will not play?
I'm abroad but have full WiFi
All I have is villa logo?
You need to be in the UK. Rights issues anywhere else.
Could perhaps get away with it via some sort of VPN hiding type thing?
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Any idea why Amazon will not play?
I'm abroad but have full WiFi
All I have is villa logo?
Mine is working in Spain
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Wes again.
Dean is definitely a dud.
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The plan has been to lull teams into a sense of security so we can hit them with.... something?
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could someone pm me with a linky thing
Ive left the beach to watch ;)
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Flop. So you drop Guilbert and engels for being shit yet you keep hold of wesley who has been consistently shit
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That line up says “please sack me I haven’t a clue!!”
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How was that foul ??
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Fucking Hell, referee.
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To have any hope in this formation, Luiz and Nakamba simply have to play as a two and not get caught ahead of the ball.
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Norwich play it around us and out of their own half with such ease. How come we don't/can't seem to do that?
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Every time Grealish gets the ball...
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Hause did very well there.
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Christ we are so fucking slow in our build-up play though, and we give it away so easily. We always look like the away team at home.
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We are certialy more energetic today. We still look terrible in the final third. The crossing has been really poor so far.
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We need to get a grip, letting Norwich have way to much possession, just getting more confident on the ball. Come on Villa
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We’re shit aren’t we.
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Even when we get a manager we are told builds teams which play good passing football, week after week we seem to play sides who pass and keep the ball much better than we do.
How does that work?
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Even when we get a manager we are told builds teams which play good passing football, week after week we seem to play sides who pass and keep the ball much better than we do.
How does that work?
Exactly. It's infuriating.
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Wesley get out of the way!
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Yikes.
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Cleared by Wesley on the edge of the box, there.
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Norwich 57% possession so far.
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Hause has been goid so far
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Even when we get a manager we are told builds teams which play good passing football, week after week we seem to play sides who pass and keep the ball much better than we do.
How does that work?
Exactly. It's infuriating.
Anything worth watching in t'internet?
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Jack is playing so far forward it’s almost a 442 at times.
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We are incapable of passing to each other.
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Fucking hell! Saved by the bar.
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We are utterly moronic at the back.
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Fuck me. That was very nearly a shit goal conceded.
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Fucking hell man. They hit the post/bar whatever the fuck it was. We are going to concede very soon indeed.
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Still no booking?
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Thank goodness Bob Harris hasn't got a shot on him for Norwich.
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This is so far precisely what we all feared it would be. Just an extension of the previous few games of dire football. And Jack Grealish on the left is such a complete waste of talent.
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Commentary not working on my Prime. ‘Kin bliss.
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Thank fuck for Konsa's pace or it would have been 1-0 Norwich
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Lucky for us Norwich are shit too.
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Good job they're shit too.
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We look capable of conceding and don't look even vaguely like scoring. Not a good combination.
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We look garbage yet again
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fucking ell
well done konsa
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Well done Konsa. Nakamba fucked up there
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Nakamba ffs.
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If Pukki was on form we'd be 2-0 down.
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Its so very easy to understand why both these sides are in the relegation mix, useless.
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This is absolute bollocks.
Exactly the same old shit week in week out.
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Team totally devoid of confidence.
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Have we considered kicking the ball in the vague direction of their goal?
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We look terrible and, ominously for Smith, worse than earlier in the season when you'd think it would be the opposite, particularly when you consider the number of new signings to bed in. There's not really a convincing structure at either end of the pitch with or without the ball, and they look so hesitant and unconfident with their passes.
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Nakamba ffs.
That’s twice he has played us in trouble
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This is absolute bollocks.
Exactly the same old shit week in week out.
We absolutely look and play like a bottom three team and one that is hurtling towards relegation.
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STILL NO FUCKING BOOKING????
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Have we considered kicking the ball in the vague direction of their goal?
We haven't a clue where there goal is for a start.
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What the hell has happened to Marvellous ? He looked like Kante’s younger brother in his first few games now he looks like one quarter of the Djemba twins
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We look terrible and, ominously for Smith, worse than earlier in the season when you'd think it would be the opposite, particularly when you consider the number of new signings to bed in. There's not really a convincing structure at either end of the pitch with or without the ball, and they look so hesitant and unconfident with their passes.
All I can see today is that Bruce has got us to roll up our sleeves and socks and we're giving it a go. It's as much as he can ask of them. In terms of tactics and style, well there isn't any.
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Commentator spot on for once: we look so nervous all the time and it stifles our attacking intent.
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Getting played off the park by one of the only two teams beneath us in the table, nightmare
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Fucking sitter.
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El Ghazi had to score that. Idiot.
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el ghazi finishing is shite
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Wes still wants an extra hour in the clock to see the opportunity in front of him
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El Ghazi had to score that. Idiot.
Home games usually go badly when he missed chances at 0-0.
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El ghazi borrowing wesleys boots
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El Ghazi had to score that. Idiot.
Home games usually go badly when he missed chances at 0-0.
Ch-ship player
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What the hell has happened to Marvellous ? He looked like Kante’s younger brother in his first few games now he looks like one quarter of the Djemba twins
His confidence is totally shot isn’t it
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On the bright side, if we're scuffing chances inside their six yard box it means we're not doing comedy pratfalls in our own area and conceding.
Silver linings.
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AEG injured now.
Strange idea but perhaps get Kodj on...
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Getting played off the park by one of the only two teams beneath us in the table, nightmare
Played off the park?! What game are you watching?
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Getting played off the park by one of the only two teams beneath us in the table, nightmare
Played off the park?! What game are you watching?
I don’t think that’s much of an exaggeration
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Getting played off the park by one of the only two teams beneath us in the table, nightmare
Played off the park?! What game are you watching?
Pretty 50 50 if you ask me
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If players confidence is shot, drop them and put in players who want it. It is basic team selection.
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Every prem game 0-0 still.
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AEG utter wank
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I never imagined for second that this manager would be quite as stubborn or just lost as he has become. I thought maybe we got ourself the next Eddie Howe who has made Bournemouth; fucking Bournemouth into a legitimate PL football club. I am wrong. We are being outplayed by Norwich at Villa Park. Just fucking shit.
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As soon as I posted that, Southampton score at Chelsea ffs. They're not even playing Danny Ings today.
This season rapidly turning into a waste of time. We are doomed even if we start picking up the odd win or two.
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Can’t get out of our own half. Against Norwich. At home.
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AEG fucked and looks like he wants to come off
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If players confidence is shot, drop them and put in players who want it. It is basic team selection.
In fairness I don't think Smith's nonsensical approach to squad rotation has been helpful for anyone's confidence tbh.
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Hause lays it off nicely to their player in our box.
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Getting played off the park by one of the only two teams beneath us in the table, nightmare
Played off the park?! What game are you watching?
Pretty 50 50 if you ask me
Indeed. Competitive game from two teams looking to get into the play-off places.
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4 point gap to 17th on the live table.
We badly need to win.
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get kodja on
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We're in the Premiership in name only.
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Jota coming on. We are about to get slower
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Jota to inject some pace.
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Smiths face. He knows he’s done.
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The same Norwich that went up as comfortable Champions last season
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Jack moved up presumably?
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Messing around over players injured again, the manager isn't learning is he?
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aEG looks championship Im afraid
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Bournemouth 1 up v Arsenal.
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33 minutes of turgid shit
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A booking! Yaaaaaas!
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Smith's face says it all.
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AEG staying on
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The same Norwich that went up as comfortable Champions last season
Then spent a fraction of what we did, and are 19th in the table with one win in 13, and who we beat 1-5 not that long ago.
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Messing around over players injured again, the manager isn't learning is he?
He Used to be indecisive but now he’s not so sure.
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Arse losing to Bournemouth
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We can't take free kicks without Hourihane.
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Now Watford winning at Sheffield United. Win today or we are down.
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Watford winning away to Sheffield United.
We will be bottom and about 8 points adrift of safety by NYD the way results are continually going.
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AEG miss.
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Fuck AEG close
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We look scared, and leaderless.
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Fucking kick it at the goal!
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Really good play from Wesley create a chnace for Elmo and then really unlucky for AEG (who seems to have woken up after being on the verge of going off).
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We offer no threat. Nothing.
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2 sitters missed by AEG.
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Leg swinging like a pendulum.
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Watford winning away to Sheffield United.
We will be bottom and about 8 points adrift of safety by NYD the way results are continually going.
Not only are we fucking things up ourselves every other result is now going against us. The perfect relegation recipe
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Aaaaaagh.
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Fucking wank. No hopes.
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Shit ball there from Elmo FFS.
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Watford winning away to Sheffield United.
We will be bottom and about 8 points adrift of safety by NYD the way results are continually going.
Not only are we fucking things up ourselves every other result is now going against us. The perfect relegation recipe
We certainly don't look like we've got anywhere near another 20 points left in us this season. Going to be need high 30s to stay up this season.
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Any clues on why Guilbert is on the bench? He is one the most unfairly rotated players I can remember, while Targett seems to play whenever he’s fit (loosely speaking).
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UTTER, UTTER, UTTER SHIT
Elmo what a fucking shit cross yet again
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The same Norwich that went up as comfortable Champions last season
Then spent a fraction of what we did, and are 19th in the table with one win in 13, and who we beat 1-5 not that long ago.
They were decimated with injuries when we beat them. They play better football than us wake up
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what the fuck is that
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We are fucking shite, and that is a problem that's within our control. Lose today and Smith needs to go. Simple as that.
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Get rid of elmo in jan. Not good enough
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Absolute shite referee. Prick.
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anothere championship player there
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Any clues on why Guilbert is on the bench? He is one the most unfairly rotated players I can remember, while Targett seems to play whenever he’s fit (loosely speaking).
Managers love Elmohamady. God only knows why after that fucking 'cross' he just delivered.
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This is awful
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Fucking hell ref you idiot
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The same Norwich that went up as comfortable Champions last season
Then spent a fraction of what we did, and are 19th in the table with one win in 13, and who we beat 1-5 not that long ago.
They were decimated with injuries when we beat them. They play better football than us wake up
Wake up? Ffs. What’s your point anyway?
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Why are the Villa fans singing 'Yellow'?
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We are fucking shite, and that is a problem that's within our control. Lose today and Smith needs to go. Simple as that.
I was done with Smith last week. Today’s team selection only served to cement my position on that. And Jack Grealish needs to be playing with better players at another club. He’s fucking wasted with us. Poor sod.
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Elmo doing a Westwood impression, floater to no one at the back stick
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Second booking for Norwich.
Was going to say hopefully they get one sent off but we're probably more likely to lose this if they go down to 10 the way this season has gone.
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Trézéguet you cock!
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Trezeguet you fucking idiot.
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Free kick to them in a dangerous spot. I just expect this to go in now.
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get fucking trez off too - useless
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Trez caught again in a dangerous area.
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We are going down. Not wven one shot on target against norwich at home. Woeful
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Trez, no contribution apart from losing the ball
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Trezeguet and Elmo are absolute garbage. So many mistakes throughout the side, Grealish apart.
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Free kick to them in a dangerous spot. I just expect this to go in now.
Yep
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Here we go.
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Phew!
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get fucking trez off too - useless
He clearly has ability but just doesn’t seem to be getting up to speed for the PL
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get fucking trez off too - useless
He clearly has ability but just doesn’t seem to be getting up to speed for the PL
He just doesn't want to show it, he's a very shy guy.
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get fucking trez off too - useless
He clearly has ability
Does he?
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Sheffield united 1-1 Watford.
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HT approaching. Our boys will be served a lovely mix barbiturates to help them relax, have zero energy in the second half and no changes will be made by the manager.
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55% possession for Norwich.
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No shots on target so far, 3 for Norwich.
If ever there's a game to roll the dice at half time it's this game.
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YESSSSSSSSSS HT 0-0
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get fucking trez off too - useless
He clearly has ability but just doesn’t seem to be getting up to speed for the PL
You spelt 'liability' wrongly.
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Gets to the point you wonder why we bother. Just blow it up ref. HT can't come soon enough.
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Bilge. We’re down.
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Oh dear, I suppose we can look forward to an early second half goal.
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Only 39 minutes gone in Sheffield United v Watford if you want something to watch during half time.
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Absolutely amazing, fantastic, out of this world, we made half time.
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It’s a boo from me
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so dont expect any changes off HT
but there bloody well should be
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Can everybody just calm down a bit.
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Bloody rubbish. Trezeget has been hopeless and hasn’t even hit Sunday league level. Don’t worry though we always fly out after half time...
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Well there is no question we need new faces just to lift spirits, for the players and us. Hope Jesus is busy!
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There is not another side in the league that gives the ball away as casually and carelessly as we do.
This really is awful nonsense.
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Pure muck. Somebody somewhere will try to defend Smith for how he's set us up here, but it'll be insufferable bullshit. No fucking game plan, no tactics, no threat up front in a must-win home game. Fucking appalling.
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Really think we need a better manager. Smith's football can look decent occasionally but the team is lightweight and has little confidence. Reminds me of Tony Mowbray's albion team way back when.
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Thanks for getting us up Dean, but you seem out of your depth.
Unless he learns quick and turns it around...
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so dont expect any changes off HT
but there bloody well should be
Perhaps bring on Mings and McGinn.
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Not good enough! At home and zero attempts on target.
Swap Wes for Kodjia and take either one of the dcms off ffs!
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Utter,utter dross.
We are one paced and one dimensional.
Their goalie hasn’t touched the ball in 45 mins.
Trezeguet and El Ghazi are both just embarrassing, and if they are starting games for Aston Villa in the premier league, then its no fucking wonder we are in a relegation battle.
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Dreadful first half, not a single effort on goal. Elmo and Trezeguet are shit. Nakamba drifts in and out. Wesley gets some stick on here but gets very little service. Really poor side Villa. Throwing more money at it in January might make it less marginally shit but we are desperate for toughness, craft and pace. I just hope Grealish doesn't decide to take any time off! Southampton and Watford doing ok today, we have to win these games but truthfully, we haven't even looked like scoring. Norwich have been the better side by far.
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Sleep walking into relegation.
Even if we somehow win this, were done for. When did we become so lethargic? Weres the early season energy gone? We are hideously slow, we've become boring again.
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AEG and Trez absolute rubbish...bring on Kodjia for AEG and switch Trez to the right if Dean wants to continue 4-3-3.
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Trezeguet is piss-poor.AEG is bang out of form.
The build-up play is sooooo slow; and the ball retnetion is - once again - embarrassingly poor.
All that said, we could / should have scored.
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The tension and lack of confidence is very obvious. As much support as it is possible to display is required.
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Sorry
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Easy to blame Smith but there are at least 5 players out there that would be lucky to get in a top half Championship side.
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Really think we need a better manager. Smith's football can look decent occasionally but the team is lightweight and has little confidence. Reminds me of Tony Mowbray's albion team way back when.
That's it. Mowbray used preach the same culture type rot aswell. Anyone at all playing well in the first half?
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Is Wesley playing?.
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Fuck.....mins 46-50 approaching.
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AEG and Trez absolute rubbish...bring on Kodjia for AEG and switch Trez to the right if Dean wants to continue 4-3-3.
It’s not 4 3 3
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Well that was a load of soapy old dog wank. I’m off to the kitchen to open the red.
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Really think we need a better manager. Smith's football can look decent occasionally but the team is lightweight and has little confidence. Reminds me of Tony Mowbray's albion team way back when.
That's it. Mowbray used preach the same culture type rot aswell. Anyone at all playing well in the first half?
IMO, Douglas, Grealish, Heaton, Hause and Konsa all passable games. The rest are Championship standard.
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This game is crying out for a bit of intelligence and Jota could provide that.
Make a change or two you stubborn fucker.
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Luiz is incredibly slow.
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Really think we need a better manager. Smith's football can look decent occasionally but the team is lightweight and has little confidence. Reminds me of Tony Mowbray's albion team way back when.
That's it. Mowbray used preach the same culture type rot aswell. Anyone at all playing well in the first half?
Jack, the 2 Centre halves and Heaton ok
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Wesley has hardly had a touch. Need tj stop bloody starting ffs smith. Your gonna relegate us with your stubbornness
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We’re currently 4 points from safety. If we keep Smith we’re down, it’s that simple.
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Easy to blame Smith but there are at least 5 players out there that would be lucky to get in a top half Championship side.
It’s the same group of players that should have won at Spurs, Arsenal and against Liverpool. We played with so much more freedom and confidence until the very end when due to a combination of poor tactics, no subs and poor discipline by the players we threw those games away. In the end that has taken its toll. These players are absolutely shot of confidence. They have no belief in what they are being asked to do, what they are doing and worst off all just in themselves. They are scared and it shows.
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AEG and Trez absolute rubbish...bring on Kodjia for AEG and switch Trez to the right if Dean wants to continue 4-3-3.
It’s not 4 3 3
We seem to be playing 4-1-0.
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I don't think the individuals in midfield are particularly to blame - I just don't think there's any real structure, a lack of detail in our movement. It all just looks a bit hopeful, and therefore hopeless.
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Is Wesley playing?.
Yes he played an excellent pass to put Elmo in on goal.
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I'm going with optimism, blind as that maybe, we start a new game, we have 45 mins to win this, get the 3 points and a bit of confidence in doing that. Come on Villa. Deano, hell's bells man get this sorted, what's up with you.
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Easy to blame Smith but there are at least 5 players out there that would be lucky to get in a top half Championship side.
It’s the same group of players that should have won at Spurs, Arsenal and against Liverpool. We played with so much more freedom and confidence until the very end when due to a combination of poor tactics, no subs and poor discipline by the players we threw those games away. In the end that has taken its toll. These players are absolutely shot of confidence. They have no belief in what they are being asked to do, what they are doing and worst off all just in themselves. They are scared and it shows.
Some are shot of confidence but Elmo, Targett, Trez, AEG and Wesley are extremely poor, even on a good day.
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WTF.
Same players + same formation + same tactics =
Same result?
Smith is looking increasingly like someone who's run out of ideas.
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Anyone want to bet on there being subs or any significant change in system at HT?
LOL confirmed no changes
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Wesley needs a hi vis on. I'd be fascinated to know where he is hiding.
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Anyone want to bet on there being subs or any significant change in system at HT?
Haha! Point taken.
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It's imperative not to go behind in this game.
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Wesley needs a hi vis on. I'd be fascinated to know where he is hiding.
Last 20 mins he was invisible
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Shock horror no changes from smith
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“Just go out and produce the same old shit, lads”
Absolute fucking joke.
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AEG. Shite cross.
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Easy to blame Smith but there are at least 5 players out there that would be lucky to get in a top half Championship side.
Who's picking them then.
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Here it comes...
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Haha! El Ghazi is beyond a joke.
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Trezeguet has been absolutely horrific. At least Hot Lips can take a free kick.
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Are we sure Doug is Brazilian? Can someone check his birth certificate?
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Easy to blame Smith but there are at least 5 players out there that would be lucky to get in a top half Championship side.
Who's picking them then.
And here’s the other thing. Chris Wilder has turned a bunch of League One players into PL players. He’s made a free transfer from Coventry into a very solid player at this level. It’s Dean Smith’s job to coach and elevate the players he has.
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I just can't believe that Smith can be watching this thinking its acceptable. The changes he should’ve made but hasn’t obviously.
Wesley off for Kodj.
Luiz off for Conor.
Trez off for Jota
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And there is the corner for Norwich.
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Luiz clears off the line from Norwich corner.
Nice to see we're as sharp as ever in that 10 minute period after HT.
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Brilliant clearance Luiz.
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Useless defending from targett there.
Luiz saves us
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Ah, so we're still shite then. Thanks for that much needed reshuffle at HT, Deano.
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Fucking hell what a clearance by Luiz off the line
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Fuckin hell Marv. So shit.
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Unbelievable clearance, awful defending
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Fucking wake up Villa!
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wtf luis
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Stunning that week after fucking week the opening period of the second half we are absolutely fucking bollocks
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Nakamba needs to come off now
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Turns out the First Half was our "good half".
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We’re like a bloody metronome.
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Zimmer bloke hits the bar again from a corner.
Our defending from corners is useless without Mings, no dominant defender at all for crosses.
Norwich really should be winning this.
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Lets concede then ill make a chsnge even thiugh norwich are all over us
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Our back four is utter cack. Hause is alright but as a quartet they are all over the fucking place. Without Heaton and Luiz we'd be well behind.
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Whatever Farke said at half time has Norwich hyped up. Whatever Smith said at half time sent Villa to sleep.
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Riding our luck at the moment
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Nakamba needs to come off now
He’s a fuckin liability. Seen absolutely nothing from him. Absolutely shite.
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They have obviously done their homework on our first ten minutes after the break vulnerabilities.
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Well won by Trez. First time I've seen him do that.
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Just give Grealish the ball.
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Imagine if this was a half decent opponent we were playing rather than one of the very few sides who have been worse than us for any time this season.
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Homework = watched any of our games since September.
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Jack is our only player of any real ability
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West Ham winning now.
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Jack forces a first save from their keeper. 54th minute v Norwich at home.
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Why do we bother crossing it?
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Shameful Shite.
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Fair play to our fans! They are making some noise.
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Hourihane on for Marvelous.
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Homework = watched any of our games since September.
So homework then.
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Nakamba off for Hot Lips. He had probably his worst game for us.
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Nakamba off finally. Conor on
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Nakamba has been awful.
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That wasn't too bad.
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Wesley did something good there.
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Homework = watched any of our games since September.
So homework then.
Stand down mate, just a comment on how easy we are to figure out. Have a winky man if it makes you feel better.
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Wesley did something good there.
Quick! Give him a new 4-year deal.
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Thought that was one nil Norwich.
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Byram misses a sitter.
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How on earth is it not 1-0 to them?
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Fuck me. That’s should have been a goal for them.
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If they score we have no chance.
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West Ham winning now.
Et tu snoddy?
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Pukki makes some excellent runs off the ball. Pulls defenders out of position constantly.
Our centre forward doesn’t.
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got away with that one
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We owe a lot to Norwich's shit finishing here. Too much turkey yesterday I'd say. Thanks baby Jesus
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Yeah a good striker makes such a difference. That’s the biggest difference between our sides, the rest is a consequence of us lacking any threat up front. Norwich are not a good side.
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Bournemouth 1 Arsenal 1.
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I just cannot understand what Dean Smith thinks Wesley is going to do up front for us?
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We haven't been totally shit in the last couple of matches.
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Jack is honestly so much better than everyone else on the pitch.
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We haven't been totally shit in the last couple of matches.
*waits for punchline*
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Can't believe we're giving this forward line another 70 minutes today.
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Oh hang on...
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Gooooooool!
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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YAAAAAAASSSS
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Get the fuck in
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We done a goal!!! GTFI!!!
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Hourihane once again.
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Play Conor at home for fuck sake.
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great goal, really well worked by Jack, superb to turn Tettey inside out.
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Grealish superb there
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We haven't been totally shit in the last couple of matches months.
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Pukki makes some excellent runs off the ball. Pulls defenders out of position constantly.
Our centre forward doesn’t.
Pukki was getting pelters from the commentators in the first half. He maybe could've done better with a couple of chances, but I thought he was excellent.
I don't think they noticed our Wes
Get in!!!
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All down to Jack that
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Hot Lips 1-0!
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Grealish is a wizard.
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Commentator absolutely devastated.
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Come on you Villa boys......well worked goal, end result worthy.
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Get the fuck in Conor. Undeserved but we need these points. Come on now. Make it 2.
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Grealish is unbelievable. Unbelievable.
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Commentator absolutely devastated.
Haha yep.
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Great work from Grealish. Hourihane such a good finisher.
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Jack is pure quality.
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sorry just ran round the house
fucking get in
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Great play from Jack and Conor buried it perfectly.
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These commentators can fuck right off.
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Yeah. Smash and grab at home. Piss off
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Yeah. Smash and grab at home. Piss off
IN fairness. They're not wrong. We've been turgid and Norwich have had a number of gilt-edged chances that any other team would have buried.
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jsut go back to that douglas clearance
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Agreed but they can still piss off
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Commentator absolutely devastated.
where was the commentator when the goal went in
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Our defensive discipline and organisation is shocking isn’t it.
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Get Kodjia on. Change it up a bit FFS Dean. Let’s go for the second and not fucking just hang on.
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Was that the first Doctor they just showed?
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Southampton 2 up now. Real disaster that. Chelsea are c**ts but no surprise there.
Lampard taking revenge for the play off final once again.
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Chelsea are absolute fucking ******.
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Commentator absolutely devastated.
where was the commentator when the goal went in
There's a glory hole in the toilet.
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Southampton up to 13th as it stands. Forget them
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Chelsea 0-2 Southampton. FFS.
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Better since the goal. We’re real flat track bullies aren’t we. Think that’s part of the Dean Smith streaky team model.
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Chelsea 0-2 Southampton. FFS.
Just shows what a couple of wins can do. It’s so tight
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You have to say, fair play to Southampton. They’ve shown some balls in the last few games.
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Southampton 2 up now. Real disaster that. Chelsea are c**ts but no surprise there.
Lampard taking revenge for the play off final once again.
It’s brilliant coaching by their manager to have them recover the way they have after that battering from Leicester
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Southampton up to 13th as it stands. Forget them
What it does show is win back to back and you can still move up 4-5 places in the league.
As good as three points will be today, I think it will be a struggle not to lose both away games. We need to win one of them to really give us a good shot of staying up I think.
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Triple sub by Norwich
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Southampton 2 up now. Real disaster that. Chelsea are c**ts but no surprise there.
Lampard taking revenge for the play off final once again.
It’s brilliant coaching by their manager to have them recover the way they have after that battering from Leicester
Yeah think that's a difference with DS and the team still green at this level.
As much as we love giving him stick Newcastle have lost only two games since they shipped 5 to Leicester in late September.
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Wow! We almost scored from a corner, a first for the season.
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What worries me is that the recent performances are so abysmal, including today, I can’t see us getting into position to nick points let alone hang onto them.
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Norwich make a double change.
I would put on Gulibert and move AEM up into midfield.
Don't like him playing there but to grind out a much needed 1-0 it's worth doing for last ten minutes.
What we shouldn't do is just sit on our hands and watch as 94th minute goal practically relegates us.
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get kodja on
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Most important 15 or so minutes of our season coming up .....
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Most important 15 or so minutes of our season coming up .....
We have to hold onto this.
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Shame Jack didn’t bring that down then
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Most important 15 or so minutes of our season coming up .....
We have to hold onto this.
Think we've all seen this film too many times before to know how it ends.
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To not even get a corner from there is shite, Trez.
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Only thing saving us is Norwich are shitter than us
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Why the fuck is Wes playing in midfield?
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Why do the Canaries keep singing 'hielo, hielo'?
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Im sorry hes crap
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That Cantwells is well a cant.
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Everton winning so they'll move above 20 points now.
Just looking at the table and currently every team above us has at least 20 points at halfway stage so that shows the scale of the task ahead.
You're not staying up on 35 or 36 points this season.
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Ffs trezeguet
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If Man City have a massive buy out clause on Luiz, can we cash in now ?
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if kod had come on for trez - would have made a diference there ...
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Grealish looks as pissed off with trezeguet as us
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Very panicky stuff.
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We are playing on the break with absolutely zero pace
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All these Norwich corners, we've rode our luck massively on them all afternoon. Would get another defensive minded player on.
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Fresh legs Dean...
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If Man City have a massive buy out clause on Luiz, can we cash in now ?
that clearence was massive mate
trez iz shit
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Why the fuck is Wes playing in midfield?
And inevitably the ball comes straight back
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Look at jack. Imagine being as good as him and lining up next to Matt fucking targett.
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ffs dean get fresh on
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They are going to score because our indiscipline and profligacy is just shocking.
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Trézéguet off. Good.
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Ugh Villa come on.
Smith needs to make a change.
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Jota on for Trezeguet
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another good block by Luis there
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Jota to inject some pace.
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Trez for Jota when we need some pace for an outlet?
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Thank fuck. Bye Trez
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Desperate for subs, Dean to shit scared to make them. He’s going through all the stages.
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Jota on for Trezeguet
thank fuck
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Trezeguet an absolute disgrace today.
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Again, are we counterattacking or are we killing time with possession? There's no plan, at all, no clarity or purpose, and that comes from the manager.
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Jota to inject some pace.
Haha.
Hopefully him and Jack can play keepy uppy between them in the corner in injury time.
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Come on ref FFS. That's a foul.
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Just get over the line guys through whatever means necessary...
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What a save from Tom.
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Get Kodj on for Wes.
Norwich are leaving large gaps at the back which Jmmy D can exploit with his pace on the break.
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Thank fuck for Heaton
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Norwich 6/1 to draw, very close to biting.
Another corner for them will probably tip me over the edge.
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Well play Tom Heaton. Hanging on for dear life now.
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We got any subs left?
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Palace 2-1 West Ham.
West Ham back down to 19 points.
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No chance of us holding on.
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Oh my Christmas pants are going in the wash early.
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We are clawing to a win for dear life against world beaters Norwich City
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Heaton unbelievable.
We don't deserve him or Jack, tbh. Think they're the only Prem quality players we have in this team.
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Heaton our second best player again. 2 incredibly saves today.
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ref is shit heaton class
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Well played Agent Ayew.
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Norwich 6/1 to draw, very close to biting.
Another corner for them will probably tip me over the edge.
7/1, I'm in for twenty.
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Norwich corner...
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Heaton unbelievable.
We don't deserve him or Jack, tbh. Think they're the only Prem quality players we have in this team.
Who knew a premier league proven player might turn out to be half decent, we could always sign a few more of them in January...
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Hause excellent
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Give the ball boy a pay rise!
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Getting a few booked for time wasting now, probably be five added on.
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Five minutes?
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sweaty palms time
thou ive had that since we scored
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Five minutes tractor time.
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See you all on the other side as they say.
Otherise known as the Dean Smith thread ten minutes after full time.
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Deano's making another sub!
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Angela for Anwar.
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Angela coming on for AEG
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Heaton unbelievable.
We don't deserve him or Jack, tbh. Think they're the only Prem quality players we have in this team.
Who knew a premier league proven player might turn out to be half decent, we could always sign a few more of them in January...
Amazing innit mate
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Genuinely forgot AEG was still on.
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Fcuking hell!
I'm telling myself it's only a game...
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Norwich fans might as well 'beat the tractors' now.
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ref is a wanker
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Come on Villa
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Jack Grealish oozes quality. He really does
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3 points
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Thank fucking fuck.
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Corner flag ball boy in full shithousery mode.
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Never in doubt really was it?
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Undeserved. Without Jack we'd be nothing. But a big 3 points nonetheless
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3 POINTS.
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Phew!
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Never in doubt really was it?
There were a couple of times when it was a bit nervy, but yes, easy.
Though I didn't watch the usual villa nightmare. How did that go?
;) ;)
My brother Norwich City fan was whatsapp vocal, until villa scored and then he went.... quiet