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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on August 31, 2019, 02:00:28 PM
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Same lineup as last week then. Come on you Villa boys!
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Palace: Guaita, Ward, Cahill, Kelly, Van Aanholt, Schlupp, McArthur, Milivojevic, Kouyate, Zaha, Ayew.
Subs: Hennessey, Sakho, McCarthy, Camarasa, Meyer, Townsend, Benteke.
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I thought Marvelous might have made the bench but maybe at this stage two games in a week is too much. Still nothing wrong with the sub options overall
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Norra lorra defenders on that bench, but who needs them anyway!
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No issue with that at all. Hopefully El Ghazi confidence boosted by goal last week so he can be dangerous sub option for us in last 20 minutes.
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Win please Villa.
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As expected. Come on Villa.
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A decent if expected starting line up. Would probably have gone for Hause over Konza if I was being picky.
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Konsa ain't got a zed.
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Poor Conor.
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Are we in a 3rd kit today?
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3 points please guys
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Pretty please! Will be nice when going into an international break.
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Are we in a 3rd kit today?
Doesn't look like it. The blue one, I think.
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Is this the quietest match thread since the Peace Cup?
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Despite Palace being hopeless at home, I'd be delighted with a point today
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Come on me babbies!! I'm going for a 2-1 to the villa. Engels to get on the scoresheet. "Engels engels engels engels Bjorn is the king of villa park"
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Afternoon all. 2-1 Villa. (Wesley, Trezeguet)
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Is this the quietest match thread since the Peace Cup?
PMT innit*
*Pre Match Tension
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1-3 Villa
come on Villa
my father in law is there - hes shitting it - a palace season ticket holder
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Decent start. Hate Kevin Friend tho
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Bright start. Early half chance for Wesley
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PM sent
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Ace our kid. Ta!
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wheres conor for this
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My stream is really weird - commentary is about 30 seconds ahead of the picture!
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I don't know who my co-commentator is but he's just got Taylor and Trezeguet mixed up!
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Check your messages.
me too please! :)
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Anyone got anything to pm me please? No dick pics.
Same request please? Although I'm not quite as militant as Bad English on the dick pics :-)
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My stream is really weird - commentary is about 30 seconds ahead of the picture!
I didn't know AVTV were covering games this year?
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Trezeguet copped one in the face there.
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Not to bad so far
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mings having a little mare
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Call up curse.
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Ayew cheating bastard
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Any chance pretty please?
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Pretty shit free kick
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Any chance pretty please?
And me please.
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Doug booked, not ideal for the DM this early. Needs to keep a cool head.
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Who just got yellow card? Luiz?
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Luiz booked
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Quiet start.
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Fucking ref. One of their defenders just pulled McGinn's shirt blatantly outside the area, but no card there, oh no. Books Doug instead. Tool.
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Kevin Friend doesn't give us a free kick shock.
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thats a free kick on Jack
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Are Palace playing tag football?
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McArthur is getting a lot of chances from the ref as well, that was a foul on Grealish. He just runs into people.
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Grealish shoved off the ball. No free kick according to Kevin Friend(less)
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Palace should've scored, Gulibert error.
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I see Zaha “accidentally” stamped on Taylor’s foot
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Tammy scores again for Chelsea.
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Ref's a blatant homer.
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I was wrong about the ref, he's not a tool.
He's a c**t.
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ffs Fred that was poor
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I was wrong about the ref, he's not a tool.
He's a c**t.
Agreed
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Kevin Friend doesn't like us - I remember a game against Chelsea a few years ago when he gave them a sloppy penalty and didn't give stonewall ones for us
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Pretty much cancelling each other out, our passing game is way better, if we can step the pace up we'll have these, Palace don't look like they can handle fast raids on goal, panic stricken.
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Anyone got any pms they wanna send.?
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Kevin Friend can suck my balls. Garbage. Come on Villa!
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We are letting them have way too much of the ball and they are pushing us further and further back. And we are making the same daft individual errors that killed us vs Spurs and Bournemouth.
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What a fucker Friend is....
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Jesus comedy of defensive errors Jota giving a free kick away and awful slice.
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Pretty much cancelling each other out, our passing game is way better, if we can step the pace up we'll have these, Palace don't look like they can handle fast raids on goal, panic stricken.
I think we're the better side but a mix of palace shit-housing (mostly McArthur) and poor reffing is stopping us from getting on top. They've been given 3-4 very soft free kicks and got away with some fairly agricultural tackling.
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Zaha waking up now, hit a decent cross in.
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Riding our luck a bit at the moment
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That was comical (if it hadn't been in our penalty area)
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They're def getting the decisions.
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Fucking hell. Our defending is tragic. How are they not ahead?
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They should have scored there
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We are letting them have way too much of the ball and they are pushing us further and further back. And we are making the same daft individual errors that killed us vs Spurs and Bournemouth.
Well we are away and Palace have been in premier league for many years now....
Expecting us to dominate away and home team to barely cross the halfway line is a bit optimistic I think, didn't happen in the championship.
Get to half time at 0-0 and hopefully get some more fluency in our attack second half. Wesley is back to being a bit out of things today.
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Only scoreless game left so far.
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We need to stop smashing long cross field passes to our wingers who are too small to deal with them. We are not moving forward as a unit and it’s leaving Wesley completely exposed up front.
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We are letting them have way too much of the ball and they are pushing us further and further back. And we are making the same daft individual errors that killed us vs Spurs and Bournemouth.
Well we are away and Palace have been in premier league for many years now....
Expecting us to dominate away and home team to barely cross the halfway line is a bit optimistic I think, didn't happen in the championship.
Get to half time at 0-0 and hopefully get some more fluency in our attack second half. Wesley is back to being a bit out of things today.
I don’t need us to dominate. It would be good if we could just keep the ball for a few minutes and push forward as a group.
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Friend is one of those horrible ones.
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We are letting them have way too much of the ball and they are pushing us further and further back. And we are making the same daft individual errors that killed us vs Spurs and Bournemouth.
Well we are away and Palace have been in premier league for many years now....
Expecting us to dominate away and home team to barely cross the halfway line is a bit optimistic I think, didn't happen in the championship.
Get to half time at 0-0 and hopefully get some more fluency in our attack second half. Wesley is back to being a bit out of things today.
I don’t need us to dominate. It would be good if we could just keep the ball for a few minutes and push forward as a group.
We will have a spell second half I'm sure like majority of away games we've played in top flight in our history.
This was always going to be a tight one today.
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Even WM commentary has noticed that Friend is biased against Villa.
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There you go Friend - another yellow for us (probably deserved) but they get nothing for persistent fouling as well as stamping on Taylor's foot
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McArthur needs to be crunched. He's like an extra from Deliverance.
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We certainly need half time, Palace getting some dangerous crosses in.
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Inevitably they have focused on attacking Taylor. Not a genius move by Hodgson to attack us down the weakest area of our team.
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So, I take it the FA will see no issues with Kevin Friend's one way traffic..
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Taylor needs to get tighter. A poor defender today. Wake up.
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Gulibert booked now ffs, can see him sending one of ours off. Both FBs on yellows which isn't great with Zaha around.
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dont think Trez is better than Salah as our egyptians friends had said
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Another free kick another yellow card
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Heaton with a good save
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they are getting too many opportunities, we really need to hold out until half time.
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Good save Heaton from a free kick from their Serb lad....
We need half time.
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Biased tw**t
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Need to keep this clean to half time, and change things in the second half. Too deep, too much pressure and result is only going one way at the minute.
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It's a foul, but a yellow card? My wife has decided that my attitude towards the game is becoming unacceptable, so we have to go and watch it at home. Sigh
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Fuck me. One way traffic
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Another yellow
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4 booked, this is ridiculous reffing. Hasn't been a dirty game at all.
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Is that 4 fucking yellows for us this half?
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A terrible referee. Fuck off
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Every foul = yellow card to us.
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Some of these decisions are outrageous
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Tammy scores a second
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And another booking for a nothing tackle compared to McCarther's in the opening stages.
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The only thing worse than the referee is our ability to clear the ball. Sort it at halftime!
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Sounds pretty poor.
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HT
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Sounds like we needed it.
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Thank fuck we got to HT unscathed
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And another booking for a nothing tackle compared to McCarther's in the opening stages.
And their lads blatent shirt pull on McGinn.
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Every foul = yellow card to us.
Pretty much. Palace do one and they don't even get a lecture.
Happy with half time. Need to have a sit down and work out how we can get more fluency in our play once we cross the halfway line.
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How is the officiating so poor in this league?
Luiz and Taylor received yellows for their first fouls. Meanwhile, SJM has his shirt yanked 5 yards outside the box and nothing..?! Taylor gets stomped late and nothing..?!
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All dirty play from Palace, 0 yellow
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Not having Sky, I have to rely on highlights, but does Jack do much dribbling into the area in the Prem? Seems like he sits and ticks things over and leaves the dribbling to the wingers.
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Four bookings almost worth a goal to Palace for second half
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Thanks to the three who messaged me.
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Crap game, crap ref. We need to fucking get ourselves together.
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Kevin Friend has always been an utter wanker
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PM welcome
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Kevin Friend should have his own entry in the Thesaurus as a synonym for blatant and unashamed bias. As I said earlier - it's not just today - there was a game against Chelsea a few years back and the decisions for Chelsea and against us were just outrageous. I've had his card marked ever since
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Luiz, trez and mings poor so far. Giving the ball away too easily. Get nothing off the ref thoigh
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What the fuck have we done to upset this twat of a referee? The amount of yellow cards is a disgrace and they get away with every foul but we get carded every time.
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Palace getting the lion's share of the chances as the home team, take the ref out the equation and we are doing okay, if Deano can get them step up the pace in the 2nd half more sure than ever we can take the 3 points here, need to be sharper at the back, tighter in the middle and rapid up front, we can do this, Palace in my opinion are a classic ponderous Hodgson team.
Come on Villa
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Delivered
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After watching that half, I'm dreading playing the top teams.
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Dire first half display, 3/10.
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Could I have a pm please
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I don't like Kevin Friend.
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After watching that half, I'm dreading playing the top teams.
Should be ok as long as this prick isn't refereeing them all.
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After watching that half, I'm dreading playing the top teams.
I know what you mean but we can't be that poor again. Far too panicky with the ball. I'm hoping that was our poor half. There's plenty to improve and Dean needs to fix it at half time.
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Dire first half display, 3/10.
It's not easy when four players are eggshells with soft yellows.
Gonna have to bring Hourihane and Elmo on..
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That first half was a hard watch
Changes needed
Where's Wesley? Might not be his fault but having none of the ball. Mings looks shakey today, general play very sloppy
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I have sent a 'dick pick' to everyone who has requested a pm.
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maybe Wesley and Davis up front together might be a way out?
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If I were Dean I'd be in the ref's changing room to make some firm and robust remarks about carding. Can he do that?
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The ref is shocking...how is the bias so blatant ?
Anyway, we started brightly enough getting in between their lines and also in behind their defence, but fell away and started to make some sloppy errors. We need to step it up, the three points are there for the taking.
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I have a Friend request. He needs to fuck off and die. Doing a top notch David Elleray "I hate Villa" impression.
Hopefully that wasn't our good half.
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Dire first half display, 3/10.
It's not easy when four players are eggshells with soft yellows.
Gonna have to bring Hourihane and Elmo on..
Exactly, players having to stand of and this Palace side are really dull, tell you what, if we had last seasons Championship side out today against this lot we'd win this game, say's it all really.
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Need to avoid losing this.
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Another 'penis pictorial' request, s'il vous plait?
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Dire first half display, 3/10.
It's not easy when four players are eggshells with soft yellows.
Gonna have to bring Hourihane and Elmo on..
Most of those fouls were caused by ourselves constantly gifting the ball away and getting angry about it. Regarding subs I would definitely make a change now because as it stands a goal for them is inevitable.
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How did the Palace guy not get booked then.
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Not having Sky, I have to rely on highlights, but does Jack do much dribbling into the area in the Prem? Seems like he sits and ticks things over and leaves the dribbling to the wingers.
He's been dropping deeper this match, not in as advanced a position as he was in the Championship when he was at his most effective. Although on one occasion when he was in a forward position he was blatantly pushed off the ball and he didn't even get a free kick.
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Jota caught late. No yellow card shock
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Poor FK again. Think we'll be seeing Hourihane on hour mark.
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Why the fuck wasn't that a yellow
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I have sent a 'dick pick' to everyone who has requested a pm.
'dick pic'. Unless you have a catalogue
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And another Palace challenge that would have been a booking for us.
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Jota caught late. No yellow card shock
Exactly. What a tosser
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Moaning about the ref is all we've got because there's nowt going on on the pitch.
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El Ghazi, Hourihane and Davis will all get a chance in this half, created very little today.
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I have sent a 'dick pick' to everyone who has requested a pm.
'dick pic'. Unless you have a catalogue
Bloody phones!
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Sloppy by Engels.
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Come on Villa. A jammy 0-1 will do.
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Trezeguet sent off ffs.
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Trez red card
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Engells unforced error this time. Grrr.
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Moaning about the ref is all we've got because there's nowt going on on the pitch.
Probably right. And cheers 👍
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Great now we’re in fucking trouble.
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down to 10 ffs
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The fucker couldn't wait
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It apperas that my stream is about 5 minutes behind
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Stupid tackle when he's on a yellow
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kevin freind - toss pot
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What a fucking surprise!
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Trezeguet should have been hooked. Poor from Smith
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Going to be backs to the wall this half now I'm afraid.
AEM and Davis seem very obvious subs now.
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Daft thing to do on a yellow and with a trigger happy ref.
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That was pathetic.
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Trezeguet should have been hooked. Poor from Smith
Well we had three others on yellows so can't take that all off. Trez probably easiest to sub and just put AEM on.
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Never a yellow card to be honest, he's been given 2 really soft ones there.
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So many players booked....inevitable
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Idiotic from Trezeguet.. but seriously this match has to be reviewed by the FA. Insanity.
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Trezeguet should have been hooked. Poor from Smith
Well we had three others on yellows so can't take that all off. Trez probably easiest to sub and just put AEM on.
And he was playing poorly
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This is turning into a classic bad game story. Get 4 booked unfairly get1 off early in the second half lose the game eventually.
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According to Kamara, Kevin Friend took delight in bringing out the red
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He's been gagging for that, all the day long, impetus with them now.
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0-0 would be wonderful.
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Trezeguet should be dropped now. I think he's been pretty average anyway. The ref hasn't helped but that was just dumb.
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Zaha used his Ashley Young nous by the sounds of it. Bone-headed from our lad though, probably cost us a point or three now.
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Stupid from Trez. Fucking stupid.
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Kevin Friend might have fabric burns on his hand from the speed he got his card out. He couldn't fucking wait
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On SSN Cammy comments "Kevin Friend took delight in giving the red card"
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A yellow for Palace!!!!
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Trezeguet should have been hooked. Poor from Smith
Yup. Eddie Howe did better v us.
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A yellow for them!
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Have to take one of the full backs off. We've very little chance with ten men let alone nine.
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No, we will not 'take a point now' commentator. We will 'take' a strong defensive display and a goal from a counter.
And a red or Palace in the next two minutes.
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Trezeguet should have been hooked. Poor from Smith
At this level for me Smith is very naive.
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We need to hold onto the ball a bit at least and win some FKs. You can still do that with 10 men, many prem teams have done that when down to 10 men at VP down the years and run down the clock well.
Think Boro had Adama sent off after three minutes at VP and still hung on for a 0-0.
Davis coming on which is sensible move.
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At fucking last!
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A yellow for Palace!!!!
Signals 3rd time... wanker
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Davis for Jota
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that wanker should have been booked in the first half
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Davis for Jota. That's a weird one
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Davis for Jota
Interesting. Two upfront or Wes moving slightly wider?
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The ref didn't bother with the first booking for a shirt pull by their captain and then booked 4 of our players for borderline challenges. It was always going to be a red for one of ours.
Come on Villa we can still win this ...
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Davis for Jota. That's a weird one
Same type of change he made at Rotherham last season
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Time to tidy up the rose bushes.😟
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Both teams have committed 11 fouls.. we have 5 yellows out of those. Call the FA Hotline.
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Davis for Jota. That's a weird one
Same type of change he made at Rotherham last season
My immediate thought too.
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Haven't had a corner yet. Didn't have one in Spurs or Everton games either.
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11 free kicks either way but 5 yellow cards to 1 tells you everything you need to know about this game, especially given there isn't a single one of those fouls that you'd call nasty or cynical.
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This display is so reminiscent of the Villa we all hated the season we went down. Under the cosh from the off, constant mistakes just waiting for their goal to arrive. With 10 men now to get through this will be nothing short of a miracle. The ref hasn’t helped but this has been really dire all round.
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Interesting sub. Davis for Jota. 432?
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Time to tidy up the rose bushes.😟
Sounds like you're sacking somebody.
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The ref didn't bother with the first booking for a shirt pull by their captain and then booked 4 of our players for borderline challenges. It was always going to be a red for one of ours.
Come on Villa we can still win this ...
He wanted to warn palace by booking our players😡
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This display is so reminiscent of the Villa we all hated the season we went down. Under the cosh from the off, constant mistakes just waiting for their goal to arrive. With 10 men now to get through this will be nothing short of a miracle. The ref hasn’t helped but this has been really dire all round.
Blimey way OTT. We've been competitive in all the games so far so way different to 15/16, just lacking in the final third at times.
Did someone get a little overexcited with their cosy US chat with DS by any chance?
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This display is so reminiscent of the Villa we all hated the season we went down. Under the cosh from the off, constant mistakes just waiting for their goal to arrive. With 10 men now to get through this will be nothing short of a miracle. The ref hasn’t helped but this has been really dire all round.
I don't know about season we went down, but it's a bit McLeish/Lambert today, isn't it?
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Time to tidy up the rose bushes.😟
Sounds like you're sacking somebody.
Having a word with myself for being week.
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To those asking about the pm. You have to find the close button on all the ads and close them without launching the pop-ups. This uncovers the object of your dreams, the. 'dick pic' player. It's a nightmare because the little 'close window' 'x' buttons are often in the middle of the ad.
Do you understand now? :-)
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All this needs now is Palace late penalty from a Zaha dive....
Which Benteke will score.
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Under the cosh a bit
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Hate Crystal Palace. Saarf lahndon wankers
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Really does feel like it's just a matter of time before they score, we can't spend so much of the game under pressure and survive it,
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0-0 would be like a victory now
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Regarding Trezeguet, cue the Egyptian fanbase bombarding the Pravda FB Page with ridiculous posts and emoticons
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I was dismayed when i heard Friend was the referee, he is awful and i cant recall us ever winning a game with him in charge. Still remember him missing the blatant stamp on Grealish against Fulham right in front of him
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Hourihane about to come on, Luiz struggling to run.
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Can we hold out for another 25 mins !? Will seem like a great point if so
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This display is so reminiscent of the Villa we all hated the season we went down. Under the cosh from the off, constant mistakes just waiting for their goal to arrive. With 10 men now to get through this will be nothing short of a miracle. The ref hasn’t helped but this has been really dire all round.
Blimey way OTT. We've been competitive in all the games so far so way different to 15/16, just lacking in the final third at times.
Did someone get a little overexcited with their cosy US chat with DS by any chance?
What does it matter about the other games this season? My comment was specific to this game. We are playing a team that will be in that lower half of the table with us and we have looked awful for most of the game.
And as for your last comment I have no idea what that even means. Clearly my chat with Dean Smith in the US hasn’t stopped me for calling his tactical ability out when needed. So I’ll commend him as needed and criticize when deserved. We have been second best all game against Crystal Palace.
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11 free kicks either way but 5 yellow cards to 1 tells you everything you need to know about this game, especially given there isn't a single one of those fouls that you'd call nasty or cynical.
Haven't been watching the game but by any chance were our bookings in dangerous areas even if they weren't dirty? Might explain it?
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We just haven't tested their defence today. We didn't do it with eleven and ten won't offer much.
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Prays for 0-0.
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Every ball that ricochet falls to their favour
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Another Palace yellow, get in!
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11 free kicks either way but 5 yellow cards to 1 tells you everything you need to know about this game, especially given there isn't a single one of those fouls that you'd call nasty or cynical.
Haven't been watching the game but by any chance were our bookings in dangerous areas even if they weren't dirty? Might explain it?
No not really. They happened in different areas of the pitch. For the most part they were terrible decisions by the ref.
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And there it is, bollocks.
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Fucking Ayew
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This display is so reminiscent of the Villa we all hated the season we went down. Under the cosh from the off, constant mistakes just waiting for their goal to arrive. With 10 men now to get through this will be nothing short of a miracle. The ref hasn’t helped but this has been really dire all round.
Blimey way OTT. We've been competitive in all the games so far so way different to 15/16, just lacking in the final third at times.
Did someone get a little overexcited with their cosy US chat with DS by any chance?
What does it matter about the other games this season? My comment was specific to this game. We are playing a team that will be in that lower half of the table with us and we have looked awful for most of the game.
And as for your last comment I have no idea what that even means. Clearly my chat with Dean Smith in the US hasn’t stopped me for calling his tactical ability out when needed. So I’ll commend him as needed and criticize when deserved. We have been second best all game against Crystal Palace.
I just think you're getting a bit above realistic levels. I remember you referencing Dean's bold "we'll attack everyone home and away" comment.
A newly promoted prem team no matter how much money they've spent simply isn't going to do that.
Today will be fantastic backs to the wall point if we hang on. You need those to stay up just as much as comfortable home wins v Everton.
Which isn't happening now as Ayew just scored.
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Just about to post that Connor on for Douglas
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And there it is, bollocks.
Way ahead of stream
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For all the promise 3 defeats from 4 is not great.
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That's been coming all this half
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Oh dear
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We are going to struggle in this league playing like this
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Very poor Villa. Garbage today. Mings and Grealish crap for the goal.
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FFS Mings!
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ffs
shite
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Tactically we have been out thought. That is going to happen a lot this season. That is why it is going to be a long hard season and survival is the objective.
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Every ball that ricochet falls to their favour
Fucking again for the goal
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Ayew does something useful on a pitch that Villa are playing on for once.
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Might as well go for it now
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Tw*t! Had to be an ex player too
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For all the promise 3 defeats from 4 is not great.
We haven't lost this one just yet.
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For all the promise 3 defeats from 4 is not great.
I marked this game with an asterisk after the 43rd minute.
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This will be a long season.
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In bottom 3 now. Not good going into an international break.
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Fucking wanking bollocks. Wasp eater supreme Jordan cunting Ayew.
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we aint been good
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For all the promise 3 defeats from 4 is not great.
We haven't lost this one just yet.
I realise that but it looks pretty likely.
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Tactically we have been out thought.
We had no tactics until 60 minutes.
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Will we even try and equalise now or settle for a Lambert ''win'' at 0-1?
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The words 'sing when you're winning' spring to mind
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Ouch, just looking at our away run. Arsenal, Norwich (dire there since Lambert left), Man. City, Wolves, Chelsea and Man. United our run up to middle of December. Can't see many points there at all with us struggling to counter attack.
Going to have to stay focused at VP and grind out some wins to keep us away from bottom 3. That's what newly promoted teams usualyl do when they come up in fairness.
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We really need to be picking up points against these teams. Going to be a long hard season if we don't.
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We have a corner!
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England’s Ming’s at fault?
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New additions not good enough. Trezeguet is straight rubbish. Jota was anonymous. We have no service to Wesley who I actually think is a decent player. Pathetic.
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Shit. Come on Villa throw the kitchen sink.
Everton must be garbage...
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So naive there.
Poor defending..Ayew was always going to try to step inside.. Ming's body shape give him a glimmer.
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Quite disappointed that, imo, we've only played well and on the front foot in 1 game out of 4 so far.
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it's going to be a long old season.
absolutely terrible today
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Quite disappointed that, imo, we've only played well and on the front foot in 1 game out of 4 so far.
Yup.
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New additions not good enough. Trezeguet is straight rubbish. Jota was anonymous. We have no service to Wesley who I actually think is a decent player. Pathetic.
Still better than summer 2015....
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England’s Ming’s at fault?
Yes.
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We're playing Crystal Palace, not Barcelona.
We look like we came for a point, which just isn't the way to play football.
Poor service for Wesley.
Very frustrating.
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This display is so reminiscent of the Villa we all hated the season we went down. Under the cosh from the off, constant mistakes just waiting for their goal to arrive. With 10 men now to get through this will be nothing short of a miracle. The ref hasn’t helped but this has been really dire all round.
Blimey way OTT. We've been competitive in all the games so far so way different to 15/16, just lacking in the final third at times.
Did someone get a little overexcited with their cosy US chat with DS by any chance?
What does it matter about the other games this season? My comment was specific to this game. We are playing a team that will be in that lower half of the table with us and we have looked awful for most of the game.
And as for your last comment I have no idea what that even means. Clearly my chat with Dean Smith in the US hasn’t stopped me for calling his tactical ability out when needed. So I’ll commend him as needed and criticize when deserved. We have been second best all game against Crystal Palace.
I just think you're getting a bit above realistic levels. I remember you referencing Dean's bold "we'll attack everyone home and away" comment.
A newly promoted prem team no matter how much money they've spent simply isn't going to do that.
Today will be fantastic backs to the wall point if we hang on. You need those to stay up just as much as comfortable home wins v Everton.
Which isn't happening now as Ayew just scored.
I’m not getting above anything. We haven’t competed. To stay up we will need to compete against sides like Palace who are absolutely nothing special. It would be completely different if this was Man City away or even a side like Leicester.
And frankly you stating that I said DS would attack is making my point for me. We haven’t attacked. And when tried to we gave the ball away cheaply. It’s put us on the back foot from the start. That’s something that we should have improved upon by this point and at this level whoever we play it’s going to kill us. And as much as the ref is shit our players got booked in part through being naive. So DS should be criticized tonight for not being able to counter Palace. That’s for him to learn and improve upon.
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I don't know why we're playing so far within ourselves now. Even against Everton I felt we were reactive. Grealish takes a lot of players with him but I don't see much fear in opposition defences scrabbling to cover our other attackers.
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England’s Ming’s at fault?
He is not good enough to play for England yet, I'm surprised Southgate has fallen for the blood and thunder play he's shown in the opening games.
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Trezeguet isn’t rubbish, obviously. But id be resting him after today even if he hadn’t been such a thick twat. Looks a bit all fart and no shit so far.
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England’s Ming’s at fault?
He is not good enough to play for England yet, I'm surprised Southgate has fallen for the blood and thunder play he's shown in the opening games.
It wasn't his fault ffs.
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Selhurst Park is just a terrible ground for us for whatever reason.
If we played Barca as much in last 30 years we'd probably pick up as many wins (1) as we do when we play Palace.
Never play well there. Even the 1-0 in 2014 was a wonder goal from Benteke and we were battered for most of the game IIRC.
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Have we had a shot?
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I know it's early days but we must be a pretty easy side to play against at present, especially as we hardly ever exert any constant pressure on the opposition.
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New additions not good enough. Trezeguet is straight rubbish. Jota was anonymous. We have no service to Wesley who I actually think is a decent player. Pathetic.
Still better than summer 2015....
Why are you talking about a transfer window four years ago? WTF does that have to do with this squad?
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England’s Ming’s at fault?
He is not good enough to play for England yet, I'm surprised Southgate has fallen for the blood and thunder play he's shown in the opening games.
It wasn't his fault ffs.
I am watching final score and they said it was.
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Have we had a shot?
We haven’t even had a corner - have we?
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come on villa
this is better
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I know it's early days but we must be a pretty easy side to play against at present, especially as we hardly ever exert any constant pressure on the opposition.
That’s the worrying thing. Stared both halves well and failed to build on it.
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Then they're idiots. The goal was just jammy as fuck. It happens. Especially to Villa.
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Today the chances are falling to Guilbert. Against Bournemouth it was Taylor.
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What’s going to really hurt us until January is that the LB spot hasn’t been improved upon and the striker situation. KD isn’t the answer if Wes isn’t playing well or if we just need to change things up. And to buy Targett and find that Taylor is better at PL level is shocking. And now with Targett being injured every team will now focus on that area of our defence much like Championship sides did.
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England’s Ming’s at fault?
He is not good enough to play for England yet, I'm surprised Southgate has fallen for the blood and thunder play he's shown in the opening games.
It wasn't his fault ffs.
I am watching final score and they said it was.
They're fucking idiots then. He'd held up Ayew, Jack come in to nick it and kicked against Mings, and spun out lovely for Ayew, the jammy ******.
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Wes off for Angela.
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It is early days but I think staying up is all we can hope for as it is not clicking for us. Reminds me of first season in championship
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This display is so reminiscent of the Villa we all hated the season we went down. Under the cosh from the off, constant mistakes just waiting for their goal to arrive. With 10 men now to get through this will be nothing short of a miracle. The ref hasn’t helped but this has been really dire all round.
Blimey way OTT. We've been competitive in all the games so far so way different to 15/16, just lacking in the final third at times.
Did someone get a little overexcited with their cosy US chat with DS by any chance?
What does it matter about the other games this season? My comment was specific to this game. We are playing a team that will be in that lower half of the table with us and we have looked awful for most of the game.
And as for your last comment I have no idea what that even means. Clearly my chat with Dean Smith in the US hasn’t stopped me for calling his tactical ability out when needed. So I’ll commend him as needed and criticize when deserved. We have been second best all game against Crystal Palace.
I just think you're getting a bit above realistic levels. I remember you referencing Dean's bold "we'll attack everyone home and away" comment.
A newly promoted prem team no matter how much money they've spent simply isn't going to do that.
Today will be fantastic backs to the wall point if we hang on. You need those to stay up just as much as comfortable home wins v Everton.
Which isn't happening now as Ayew just scored.
I’m not getting above anything. We haven’t competed. To stay up we will need to compete against sides like Palace who are absolutely nothing special. It would be completely different if this was Man City away or even a side like Leicester.
And frankly you stating that I said DS would attack is making my point for me. We haven’t attacked. And when tried to we gave the ball away cheaply. It’s put us on the back foot from the start. That’s something that we should have improved upon by this point and at this level whoever we play it’s going to kill us. And as much as the ref is shit our players got booked in part through being naive. So DS should be criticized tonight for not being able to counter Palace. That’s for him to learn and improve upon.
We need to get more streetwise at this level that's one thing I'd agree on. Does feel like the opposition are playing on us being naive atm. If players are on yellows you run and get into tussels with them. Always seems odd to me at VP when a FB for opposition gets booked early and then we hardly run at them for rest of the half.
Palace 11 might not look great but they are a solid and experience team that are tough to score against.
Frustrating loss. West Ham and Arsenal after the break will be hard ones aswell. Think I'm just happy we got a win early on as it took Cardiff until mid October last season to get their first win.
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Then they're idiots. The goal was just jammy as fuck. It happens. Especially to Villa.
Garth Crooks an idiot,!
No way ;)
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Ayew off, Benteke on.
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We'll pull this out of the fire.
Come on the Villa.
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Trezeguet isn’t rubbish, obviously. But id be resting him after today even if he hadn’t been such a thick twat. Looks a bit all fart and no shit so far.
Will be out for West Ham. Will see if we bring back El Ghazi or Hourihane for more narrow midfield.
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England’s Ming’s at fault?
He is not good enough to play for England yet, I'm surprised Southgate has fallen for the blood and thunder play he's shown in the opening games.
Personally I don't think he is fully fit as he has this groin strain that he needs injections for to get through the game!
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England’s Ming’s at fault?
He is not good enough to play for England yet, I'm surprised Southgate has fallen for the blood and thunder play he's shown in the opening games.
It wasn't his fault ffs.
Grealish kicks the ball onto Mings/Ayew ping pong free
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Some commentators are fucking awful at their research. Banging on about Benteke coming on ''and how often do we see former players scoring against their former club?" without once mentioning that it's already happened in this game.
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New additions not good enough. Trezeguet is straight rubbish. Jota was anonymous. We have no service to Wesley who I actually think is a decent player. Pathetic.
Still better than summer 2015....
Why are you talking about a transfer window four years ago? WTF does that have to do with this squad?
I think in time some of these players will turn out to be good premier league players just like say Gana did. Also shows just spending 50 odd million dosen't guarentee anything despite getting fans excited.
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Trezeguet isn’t rubbish, obviously. But id be resting him after today even if he hadn’t been such a thick twat. Looks a bit all fart and no shit so far.
Will be out for West Ham. Will see if we bring back El Ghazi or Hourihane for more narrow midfield.
I'd put Hourihane in as first choice. El Ghazi or Trezeguet haven't shown that they're worth a starting place to me.
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Going to fizzle out to a 1-0 loss I'm afraid.
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Really poor defending for their goal. Ayew should nevet have got past Mings & Grealish.
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6 mins added time
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New additions not good enough. Trezeguet is straight rubbish. Jota was anonymous. We have no service to Wesley who I actually think is a decent player. Pathetic.
Still better than summer 2015....
Why are you talking about a transfer window four years ago? WTF does that have to do with this squad?
I think in time some of these players will turn out to be good premier league players just like say Gana did. Also shows just spending 50 odd million dosen't guarentee anything despite getting fans excited.
Fair enough and you may be right. Unfortunately, the transformation they experience often occurs after they have left the Villa! But I take your point.
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Friend will be thinking enough time for a second red card
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Do we need more defensively that Louis on his own in midfield.?
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Sheffield United have come back against Chelsea - now 2-2.
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this is hard to stomach, but we will see plenty of games like this I'm afraid.
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ten against 12 here. this ref is a turd
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Worries me how few decent chances we seem able to create from open play.
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Do we need more defensively that Louis on his own in midfield.?
Marvellous will surely be in the 18 for West Ham, maybe even start him and push McGinn and Jack little more forward.
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Ref is a pure ******.
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Trezeguet isn’t rubbish, obviously. But id be resting him after today even if he hadn’t been such a thick twat. Looks a bit all fart and no shit so far.
Will be out for West Ham. Will see if we bring back El Ghazi or Hourihane for more narrow midfield.
I'd put Hourihane in as first choice. El Ghazi or Trezeguet haven't shown that they're worth a starting place to me.
Same here Hourihane doesn’t deserve to be behind those players based on quality or form.
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Sheffield United have come back against Chelsea - now 2-2.
They won't go down.
Looking at table and we need to finish above Newcastle, Norwich and Brighton imo. Watford and Southampton aren't great either but think both will go on decent runs at some stage.
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2 most worrying signs so far - lack of good chances up front and suicidal tendencies at the back.
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Mings really struggling, probably going to be pulled out of England squad.
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Fair challenge there from Townsend, of course.
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SCORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRCHIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Callum O'Hare injury time winner for Coventry, coming off the bench.
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LANSBURY!!!!!!!!!
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Disallowed ffs
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Blimey!
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VAR....
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Stat of the day according to my commentator.
Only Man City and Liverpool have picked up more PL points than Palace in 2019!
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Oh FUCK.
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This ref is a disgrace, please ask FA for him to not ref us anymore time this season.
New Mark Halsey.
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Booked Jack for diving? And disallowed it for that?
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this is hard to stomach, but we will see plenty of games like this I'm afraid.
I hope not, it will mean we'll be relegated.
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Kevin Friend, not fit to referee
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Good goal. Disallowed by Frfiend
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An absolute farce. VAR, fuck off.
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Need to get Jack away from the ref, he's lost it. We don't need him out for three matches aswell.
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Why was it disallowed?
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disgraceful refereeing
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Fucking joke referee. Blatant fucking biased referee. Where is the VAR now?
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Bloody cheating bastard.
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Why did it not go to VAR
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I don't care how we've played, the ref has gifted this to them, fucking disgusting performance
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Why was it disallowed?
Because the ref is a cheating ******.
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cheated out of that!
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VAR is pointless. But we were shite
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This is the kind of thing that puts you of football altogether, this ref has won Palace the game, scandalous
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that ref has been shite all game
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I knew better than to celebrate. VAR has ruined the season already, not because of that incident but because it's always in the back of your mind. Kill VAR, it's a big pile of utter shit.
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Where is VAR?
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I don't care how we've played, the ref has gifted this to them, fucking disgusting performance
Yup.
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You can see by the Palace players faces they know they've got away with this. ffs
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I knew better than to celebrate. VAR has ruined the season already, not because of that incident but because it's always in the back of your mind. Kill VAR, it's a big pile of utter shit.
It's got fuck all to do with VAR, in fact if VAR was used properly we'd be getting a point. That's 100% down to the ref being a ******.
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At first I thought he was mad for not playing advantage, then I thought he was bringing it back for a pen, then I thought it might be for a foul outside the area, then he gives nothing. He fucked us four times on one incident.
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Surely he can book Jack for "diving" and not disallow the goal? Sorry but that is blatant fucking cheating by Friend who's had it in for us all game.
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I knew better than to celebrate. VAR has ruined the season already, not because of that incident but because it's always in the back of your mind. Kill VAR, it's a big pile of utter shit.
It wasn't VARed, was it?
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I knew better than to celebrate. VAR has ruined the season already, not because of that incident but because it's always in the back of your mind. Kill VAR, it's a big pile of utter shit.
It wasn't VARed, was it?
That people are unsure is another problem with VAR
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Can't seem to find the incident anywhere does anyone have it?
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So one rule for Zaha and a different rule for Jack.
I'm not even sure it was a blatant dive, because i think it was Zaha who flew into the back of Grealish which started to knock him off balance.We didn't gain any advantage from Grealish going down, so surely if The Ref thinks he did dive you carry on play until the ball goes dead and then you book Grealish?