Which Utd?I'd imagine at our mid-table rivals Manchester Utd.
Surely Micah deserves an extension.He's probably built about 3 on his mansion since we signed him.
Elphick is a very solid pro too. Did a good job for us when called upon this season in difficult circumstances. Should have no issue getting a 2 yr contract at a decent championship club. Jedinak, Whelan and Hutton were all warriors for us in the dogarse division we have just left.Yeah I'll add in Elphick. Almost forgot about him. He's had piss luck. Good guy though.
Elmo would be a reliable back up I think. Taylor too. I'd be looking for new first choices in both positions but I think both have earned a place in the 25 next season.
Alan Hutton will be immortalised as the last player ever to score in a league game between Villa and Small Heath.
Alan Hutton will be immortalised as the last player ever to score in a league game between Villa and Small Heath.
Jack says hello.
I think we'll keep Whelan too, 12 months to help the transition for the club as a whole, rather than just the first team, would make good sense.Agree, I expect it to happen too.
There's no room for sentimentality here unless we want to go straight back down. Fulham spent £100m and were still miles off.
There's no room for sentimentality here unless we want to go straight back down. Fulham spent £100m and were still miles off.
To play devil's advocate you could argue that the cautionary tale that Fulham offer is that spending huge amounts on a brand new team might not be better than keeping a hard-working team together that play well and is confident after promotion.
Fulham provide circumstantial evidence that maybe there is room for sentimentality.
There's no room for sentimentality here unless we want to go straight back down. Fulham spent £100m and were still miles off.
To play devil's advocate you could argue that the cautionary tale that Fulham offer is that spending huge amounts on a brand new team might not be better than keeping a hard-working team together that play well and is confident after promotion.
Fulham provide circumstantial evidence that maybe there is room for sentimentality.
Spending it wisely is far more important than just how much you spend. As we've shown more than once.
It's about spending it well, whether it's £2m or £20m.
Spending it wisely is far more important than just how much you spend. As we've shown more than once.
Quite. McGinn cost us £2.7m. He's no worse a player because of that.
Sentimentality is a bitch, because like so many others, I often romanticise players wearing our shirt. I sometimes think they're better than they are, put in performances better than they did, simply because they played for us - but there are still quite a few players I'll be perfectly comfortable seeing the back of this summer.
What's different right now, is that for the first time in a very long while, I trust our management implicitly. If Dean chooses to keep a couple of the players people think should definitely be let go, I won't be reacting with "Seriously? Have you lost your mind?" as I have in previous seasons, but with "Fair enough, I trust Dean has seen something in them that I haven't". That's quite a nice feeling.
What's the odds small heath will take at least one of our leavers.
Albert Adomah will not be offered a new contract at Aston Villa, BirminghamLive understands.
Adomah is one of several senior players out of contract at Villa Park this summer with Dean Smith poised to ring the changes following promotion to the Premier League.
The 31-year-old has been a mainstay in his three seasons at the club and landed the players’ player of the year award for his contribution in 2017/18.
Adomah grabbed a career best 15-goal haul that season and initiated contract talks with the club towards the end of it.
Aston Villa Football Club is pleased to announce the signing of winger Albert Adomah.
The 28-year-old arrives from Middlesbrough and joins us on a four-year deal.
I don't get Albert being released
Brum Mail todayQuoteAlbert Adomah will not be offered a new contract at Aston Villa, BirminghamLive understands.
Adomah is one of several senior players out of contract at Villa Park this summer with Dean Smith poised to ring the changes following promotion to the Premier League.
The 31-year-old has been a mainstay in his three seasons at the club and landed the players’ player of the year award for his contribution in 2017/18.
Adomah grabbed a career best 15-goal haul that season and initiated contract talks with the club towards the end of it.
Villa OS when he signed in 2016QuoteAston Villa Football Club is pleased to announce the signing of winger Albert Adomah.
The 28-year-old arrives from Middlesbrough and joins us on a four-year deal.
i would imagine it must have been 3 years with option for a 4th year.Read the other day that jedinak wants to stay. Think him and Whelan would be good on small contracts as squad players
Micah, Hutton, Albert, Jedibak, Whelan all going
In lots of ways it is the perfect situation as it is a lot off the wage bill and we will not be carrying very much deadwood (McCormack being the main one left)
We also have a lot of players with just 1 year to go
Hourihane
Kodjia
Chester
Bjarnason
Davis
Green
Elmo
You would think we will be offering out new deals to a few of them.
want Bjarnason gone
i would imagine it must have been 3 years with option for a 4th year.All the players mentioned above should be moved on with the possible exception of Hourihane IMO. The reality is that the rest are not of the required quality for the Premier League. There will be others too. Rebuilding was always going to be harsh.
Micah, Hutton, Albert, Jedibak, Whelan all going
In lots of ways it is the perfect situation as it is a lot off the wage bill and we will not be carrying very much deadwood (McCormack being the main one left)
We also have a lot of players with just 1 year to go
Hourihane
Kodjia
Chester
Bjarnason
Davis
Green
Elmo
You would think we will be offering out new deals to a few of them.
Sounds like it's official for all three now. All model professionals and that attitude is why we have been promoted. I'm sure they'll get offers and let's be honest all three should be made for life anyway, not quite the same as a 19 year old been released.
Mile has posted a farewell on his Instagram account.Yes seen on Twitter, he’s 4th now. Perhaps we’re just keeping whelan and Richards 😳😩😜
Mile has posted a farewell on his Instagram account.
You can't go on Instagram if you don't 'do' it. But here is the link (https://www.instagram.com/p/ByH4QnmHnSV/) :Mile has posted a farewell on his Instagram account.
Link please, don't do Instagram.
You can't go on Instagram if you don't 'do' it. But here is the link (https://www.instagram.com/p/ByH4QnmHnSV/) :Mile has posted a farewell on his Instagram account.
Link please, don't do Instagram.
Edit: I took pity on you ;-)
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'Bandwidth limit exceeded'!
I thought Mile was mainly pants to be honest. We bought him three years too late.
Yeah Good Luck to Jedi, Hutton, Elphick and Albert
As for Richards he can roll in his own vomit and be joined by all those who enabled the leech to be here in the first place
If he was so injured why have we not claimed on the insurance?
Yeah Good Luck to Jedi, Hutton, Elphick and Albert
As for Richards he can roll in his own vomit and be joined by all those who enabled the leech to be here in the first place
I think Richards is physically incapable of playing football, don’t wish him any ill will tbh, anyone would sit on a fat contract in any job
Scottish Cafu wasn't the greatest ever but he gave everything and became One Of Us.
I'll miss him.
I thought Mile was mainly pants to be honest. We bought him three years too late.
I liked him at Palace, I just think we paid too much for him when he was clearly on the wane, not disputing he had the odd moment in the sun but for me he epitomized the mainly dreadful signings in our first relegation season.
He was pretty good in his first season. He wasn't bad when called upon in his second. Due to the idiot Bruce not bothering to replace Terry (or Samba) and loaning Elphick out, he was forced to play out of position for much of his third. I don't blame him for that.
It's a shame we weren't more comfortable on Monday because I think a couple of the departees might have got a brief swansong in the closing minutes otherwise.
He was pretty good in his first season. He wasn't bad when called upon in his second. Due to the idiot Bruce not bothering to replace Terry (or Samba) and loaning Elphick out, he was forced to play out of position for much of his third. I don't blame him for that.
It's a shame we weren't more comfortable on Monday because I think a couple of the departees might have got a brief swansong in the closing minutes otherwise.
I said that after the game as well. I know he wasn't on the bench but it would have been nice to have seen the likes of Hutton on the pitch for the last few minutes.
He was pretty good in his first season. He wasn't bad when called upon in his second. Due to the idiot Bruce not bothering to replace Terry (or Samba) and loaning Elphick out, he was forced to play out of position for much of his third. I don't blame him for that.
It's a shame we weren't more comfortable on Monday because I think a couple of the departees might have got a brief swansong in the closing minutes otherwise.
I said that after the game as well. I know he wasn't on the bench but it would have been nice to have seen the likes of Hutton on the pitch for the last few minutes.
Agree totally, but there was no place for sentiment in the last ten minutes at Wembley
He was pretty good in his first season. He wasn't bad when called upon in his second. Due to the idiot Bruce not bothering to replace Terry (or Samba) and loaning Elphick out, he was forced to play out of position for much of his third. I don't blame him for that.
It's a shame we weren't more comfortable on Monday because I think a couple of the departees might have got a brief swansong in the closing minutes otherwise.
I said that after the game as well. I know he wasn't on the bench but it would have been nice to have seen the likes of Hutton on the pitch for the last few minutes.
Agree totally, but there was no place for sentiment in the last ten minutes at Wembley
Especially that last ten minutes. It aged me.
Many thanks to the fourThis, and may Alan & Celine Dion v Blues be never taken down from YouTube...
Albert
Scottish cafu
Jedi
And tommy
The building blocks to help us move up.
Professionals one and all
He was pretty good in his first season. He wasn't bad when called upon in his second. Due to the idiot Bruce not bothering to replace Terry (or Samba) and loaning Elphick out, he was forced to play out of position for much of his third. I don't blame him for that.
It's a shame we weren't more comfortable on Monday because I think a couple of the departees might have got a brief swansong in the closing minutes otherwise.
I said that after the game as well. I know he wasn't on the bench but it would have been nice to have seen the likes of Hutton on the pitch for the last few minutes.
Agree totally, but there was no place for sentiment in the last ten minutes at Wembley
Especially that last ten minutes. It aged me.
He was pretty good in his first season. He wasn't bad when called upon in his second. Due to the idiot Bruce not bothering to replace Terry (or Samba) and loaning Elphick out, he was forced to play out of position for much of his third. I don't blame him for that.
It's a shame we weren't more comfortable on Monday because I think a couple of the departees might have got a brief swansong in the closing minutes otherwise.
I said that after the game as well. I know he wasn't on the bench but it would have been nice to have seen the likes of Hutton on the pitch for the last few minutes.
Agree totally, but there was no place for sentiment in the last ten minutes at Wembley
Especially that last ten minutes. It aged me.
Oh good God, yes. I'm still recovering.
Aston Villa has today released eight players.
They are Mile Jedinak, Alan Hutton, Tommy Elphick, Albert Adomah, Glenn Whelan, Ritchie De Laet, Mark Bunn and Micah Richards.
We’d like to thank all of them for their contributions and wish them the best of luck for the future.
Pretty sure that if they don't find another club we pay them for June as well.
Nice video on Twitter. https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1134827974778347520
Sure it isn't photoshopped? :P :-*
Hear, hear.
Now to offload the contracted players who don't really contribute such as Bjarnesson, Angela and Fat Ross and we really will be in much better shape financially.
And Hogan, Gardner and tshibolaHear, hear.
Now to offload the contracted players who don't really contribute such as Bjarnesson, Angela and Fat Ross and we really will be in much better shape financially.
What is the point of this thread if everyone is digging up all the individual player threads to comment on ?
And Hogan, Gardner and tshibolaHear, hear.
Now to offload the contracted players who don't really contribute such as Bjarnesson, Angela and Fat Ross and we really will be in much better shape financially.
I don’t know about that. I wouldn’t judge a player based on his emotions. When he’s scored in the past he’s been mobbed by his teammates. I just think he’s an unemotional player who just doesn’t fit the system Dean Smith wants to play. And maybe he is a bit fucked off by that.
Just mentioned on the twitter link on this thread, about losing the senior players especially most that have got good backbone when things get a bit nasty. I hope the club take that into account & not only go for football quality but have some strong players also
I don’t know about that. I wouldn’t judge a player based on his emotions. When he’s scored in the past he’s been mobbed by his teammates. I just think he’s an unemotional player who just doesn’t fit the system Dean Smith wants to play. And maybe he is a bit fucked off by that.
I don’t know about that. I wouldn’t judge a player based on his emotions. When he’s scored in the past he’s been mobbed by his teammates. I just think he’s an unemotional player who just doesn’t fit the system Dean Smith wants to play. And maybe he is a bit fucked off by that.
And shit.
I don’t know about that. I wouldn’t judge a player based on his emotions. When he’s scored in the past he’s been mobbed by his teammates. I just think he’s an unemotional player who just doesn’t fit the system Dean Smith wants to play. And maybe he is a bit fucked off by that.
His body language always signals (to me anyway) that he's not happy with a bit part (at best) role. Who can blame him but the cold harsh truth is that he's there because that's where he is in the pecking order. I would imagine that he'll be pretty keen to find a way out of the club this summer. It might well be a bridge too far for Lansbury as well. Bree is certain to be placed on offer also. I would imagine that in addition, the club are keen to offload Kodjia, Hogan and one of the 2 keepers who joined this season. Finally, it wouldn't surprise me to see green & Davis loaned out with Tishibola & McCormack given to anyone who is prepared to take them.
We'll then be left with 2 out of 3 keepers (probably with an incoming first choice keeper)
Defence: Gilbert & Elmo as RBs, Mings (gets down and prays) + 2 A.N Others and Chester, Taylor and a new LB.
Midfield: Jack, SJM, Conor, ElGhazi, possibly Lansbury, a new central midfielder & another winger on top of Jota.
Strikers: 2 x new strikers
That's 8 new places of which at least 6 will be completed this summer, if not the entire 8.
A cool £80 - £100 millions worth.
I don’t know about that. I wouldn’t judge a player based on his emotions. When he’s scored in the past he’s been mobbed by his teammates. I just think he’s an unemotional player who just doesn’t fit the system Dean Smith wants to play. And maybe he is a bit fucked off by that.
His body language always signals (to me anyway) that he's not happy with a bit part (at best) role. Who can blame him but the cold harsh truth is that he's there because that's where he is in the pecking order. I would imagine that he'll be pretty keen to find a way out of the club this summer. It might well be a bridge too far for Lansbury as well. Bree is certain to be placed on offer also. I would imagine that in addition, the club are keen to offload Kodjia, Hogan and one of the 2 keepers who joined this season. Finally, it wouldn't surprise me to see green & Davis loaned out with Tishibola & McCormack given to anyone who is prepared to take them.
We'll then be left with 2 out of 3 keepers (probably with an incoming first choice keeper)
Defence: Gilbert & Elmo as RBs, Mings (gets down and prays) + 2 A.N Others and Chester, Taylor and a new LB.
Midfield: Jack, SJM, Conor, ElGhazi, possibly Lansbury, a new central midfielder & another winger on top of Jota.
Strikers: 2 x new strikers
That's 8 new places of which at least 6 will be completed this summer, if not the entire 8.
A cool £80 - £100 millions worth.
Jota isn't a winger.
He's an inside-forward I thought, in the old jargon.
It's why he's struggled at Blues. They've played him on the right wing. DS played with two 'number eights' at Brentford, with the fullbacks providing width. I think that's what we'll see next season.
He's an inside-forward I thought, in the old jargon.
He played most of his football at Brentford out wide and was brought in by Rednapp to play there. However, Under Monk, Blues have been narrower and Jota was used often as a number 10. I suspect he'll be deployed out wide again under Smith.
He's an inside-forward I thought, in the old jargon.
He played most of his football at Brentford out wide and was brought in by Rednapp to play there. However, Under Monk, Blues have been narrower and Jota was used often as a number 10. I suspect he'll be deployed out wide again under Smith.
I'm often wrong so I may be here, but I'm pretty sure that Brentford didn't play with wingers under Smith. He played that way with us because that's what he inherited.
He's an inside-forward I thought, in the old jargon.
He played most of his football at Brentford out wide and was brought in by Rednapp to play there. However, Under Monk, Blues have been narrower and Jota was used often as a number 10. I suspect he'll be deployed out wide again under Smith.
I'm often wrong so I may be here, but I'm pretty sure that Brentford didn't play with wingers under Smith. He played that way with us because that's what he inherited.
Aston Villa can confirm Ross McCormack is to leave the club after signing a variation agreement.
The club would like to wish Ross well for the future.
Add Fat Ross to the list.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2019/06/03/club-statement-ross-mccormackQuoteAston Villa can confirm Ross McCormack is to leave the club after signing a variation agreement.
The club would like to wish Ross well for the future.
What's a variation agreement?
What's a variation agreement?
An agreement in which both parties enter into to allow changes to the original contract.
What's a variation agreement?
An agreement in which both parties enter into to allow changes to the original contract.
It's an agreement that allowed the club and all our employees to tell him to fuck off in multitude of ways.
What's a variation agreement?
An agreement in which both parties enter into to allow changes to the original contract.
It's an agreement that allowed the club and all our employees to tell him to fuck off in multitude of ways.
Yes but how much have we had to pay for the privilege?
Whilst it's generally considered a good move, we've still lost £12 million in transfer fees and around half again in wages. In normal circumstances, clubs pay money to bring players in. In this case, we've paid 7 figures to get one out.
For me, with the possible exception of Balaban, he is the worst signing we've ever made, made worse by the fact that all the warning signs were there for everyone to see prior to him signing.
Yes, he has been unceremoniously dumped, which affords a crumb of satisfaction but ultimately, he's screwed our club on a par with Richards.
As for the money, if you think that paying a waste of space 7 figures for the privilege of telling him to "fuck off in a multitude of ways" then good luck to you. I find it sickening, regardless of what division we are in, and to add insult to injury, Richards previously turned down the offer of a variation agreement in order to screw us for the maximum possible.