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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on March 31, 2018, 07:22:38 PM
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Garbage. 3 wins out of 8.
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Not the ideal time of the season to forget how to win.
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fuck off SB
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Stupid potato. Why change the formation by bringing Kodjia on. Foolish.
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Wouldn't have scored if we played until Easter Monday.
Another Championship season beckons...
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Below average first half, utter cack second half.
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Pathetic. It’s not even the fact that we aren’t winning, it’s the not even trying to win
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Bunch of bottling bastards...we are not going up playing like this.
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Uninspiring,worrying so.
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1 point against fecking hull , shit Bolton and crap QPR and lucky to get a point
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Rubbish.
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I will draw at random a white card from Cards Against Humanity to describe that shit show.
And the winner is.............
An oversized lollipop.
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Fucking crap,the urgency in the 2nd half was pathetic lucky to get a point.
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No fight or desire. Sadly don’t think we’ve got the stones to win the play offs either.
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First half wanky. Second half worse.
Poor decision making all night.
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Bruce teams always have runs like this. Our hope of the top 2 rested on us not having one for 4-5 months which was a big ask.
He really needs to stop wiping out the midfield whenever we're chasing a game though, it's a shit tactic that doesn't work in the slightest and just removes any chance of of sneaking something late on.
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SB is our new Lambert
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Awful again. Not good enough again.
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Was a Remi Guarde sort of performance.
Bruce clueless to change matches. Doesn’t do midfields.
I sack him a get JT to fire them up for play offs.
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Going nowhere fast.
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Extremely disappointing performance especially second half.
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Terrible 2nd half.
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Three piss poor performances in a row. Cheers Steve.
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Grealish gave the ball away early second half and it set a tone.
Desperate second half with endless long balls that were never going to stick. Absolutely tedious and frustrating beyond reason.
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Was a Remi Guarde sort of performance.
Bruce clueless to change matches. Doesn’t do midfields.
I sack him a get JT to fire them up for play offs.
I think i agree with this .... get lampard in .. in fact play the bugger too
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Very disappointing.
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Worried, very worried
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Was a Remi Guarde sort of performance.
Bruce clueless to change matches. Doesn’t do midfields.
I sack him a get JT to fire them up for play offs.
I'm not sure you can blame Bruce for Alberts misses in the first half.
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We have bottled it. Without doubt.
Derby shat first, and we have followed.
Johnstone suddenly looks nervous as fuck, punching when he should catching, sliced kicks and no urgency.
Too many players are making poor decisions and making individual errors.
I don’t think it’s anything to do with us thinking we just needed to turn up against qpr, Bolton and Hull and we would win.
I think we peaked against the dog heads, got into a marvellous position only to shit our pants.
How the fuck these lot will cope in the playoffs is a big,big worry.
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What a poor three games. This is so worrying.
Is Steve Bruce going to have enough to tactically outwit someone for 2 or 3 tight / tense play off games?
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Was a Remi Guarde sort of performance.
Bruce clueless to change matches. Doesn’t do midfields.
I sack him a get JT to fire them up for play offs.
I'm not sure you can blame Bruce for Alberts misses in the first half.
not just the misses is it.. the shite performances of the last three games
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How does Bruce think surrendering the midfield and playing hit and hope hoofball instead will succeed ?
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If we fuck up the play off''s we could spend a few years in the championship.
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Is Steve Bruce going to have enough to tactically outwit someone for 2 or 3 tight / tense play off games?
Haha!
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What a poor three games. This is so worrying.
Is Steve Bruce going to have enough to tactically outwit someone for 2 or 3 tight / tense play off games?
go 1 up he has a chance , go behind or chase a game he is useless
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That was dreadful not one Villa player came out on the credit side, no cohesion no energy no game plan we looked like the bottom side. relying on experience is costing Bruce some of the older players look Knackered we badly need to get younger legs in. Bruce has again flattered to deceive, with all to play for he can't motivate players that were looking at automatic promotion four weeks ago and playing three centre forwards for the last ten minutes was pure idiocy.
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So fourth - at best - is what we're now aiming for. Genuinely alarmed how quickly the wheels have come off after thumping Wolves.
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We needed to go up automatically as we don't perform well in cup ties and that is effectively what the playoffs are. The chance is still there, but it's not looking great.
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Adios in advance, Stevie. At least the next manager will be having a much-needed clear-out of our over-paid, under-performing wasters.
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So fourth - at best - is what we're now aiming for. Genuinely alarmed how quickly the wheels have come off after thumping Wolves.
Almost impossible to explain.
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Was a Remi Guarde sort of performance.
Bruce clueless to change matches. Doesn’t do midfields.
I sack him a get JT to fire them up for play offs.
Do you realise how ludicrous this sounds?
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They better fucking include the home leg of the playoffs with our season tickets.
It would be criminal to charge us.
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A shame that the momentum has gone so hopefully we can get it back in time for the Playoffs.
Renewing this weekend anyway for year number 27.
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Was a Remi Guarde sort of performance.
Bruce clueless to change matches. Doesn’t do midfields.
I sack him a get JT to fire them up for play offs.
I'm not sure you can blame Bruce for Alberts misses in the first half.
not just the misses is it.. the shite performances of the last three games
We weren't shite in the first half. My point is, had Albert scored when he should have, the game would have been very different.
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wolves was our last match of the season, looking at what weve done since. couldn't out think fight perform another team in a relegation battle. spin that one Steve.
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When it came to the time of season you have to really stand up and show what you are made of we've made our excuses and left.
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So fourth - at best - is what we're now aiming for. Genuinely alarmed how quickly the wheels have come off after thumping Wolves.
Almost impossible to explain.
It's the ol' Factory Of Sadness returning to haunt us innit. There's no other logical explanation. :(
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I maintain we were dominant first half and should have been in front. Second half was very poor. We've forgotten how to score again and this has the feel of yet another Bruce slump. Let's hope we hit form before the playoffs
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When it came to the time of season you have to really stand up and show what you are made of we've made our excuses and left.
Yep.
Bruce has been telling everyone for ages that season starts when the daffodils appear.
Shame most of our lot have hayfever.
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He can't blame the snow so i wonder what his excuse will be after the awful performance tonight
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Maybe the plan is to look really shite to lull the other play off teams into a false sense of confidence and then ambush them. Second thoughts, maybe we just are really shite end of.
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The 2nd half was very poor. Lansbury and Grealish were only on to give the ball away. Pointless any of the forwards being on when all you do is lump it down their throat.
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I maintain we were dominant first half and should have been in front. Second half was very poor. We've forgotten how to score again and this has the feel of yet another Bruce slump. Let's hope we hit form before the playoffs
We were a long way from dominant first half.Having said that I was hoping for a vast improvement second half,but we looked mentally and physically shot.
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A dreadfully boring performance. Bruceball at its finest. Hull more than worth their point. We've looked second best now to QPR, Bolton and Hull. I think Bruce got his game plan wrong in each case.
Not good enough I'm afraid.
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I will draw at random a white card from Cards Against Humanity to describe that shit show.
And the winner is.............
An oversized lollipop.
Haha. That's cheered me up somewhat. Superb game.
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I maintain we were dominant first half and should have been in front. Second half was very poor. We've forgotten how to score again and this has the feel of yet another Bruce slump. Let's hope we hit form before the playoffs
Dominant is stretching it a bit, but we were OK first half and looked like creating something. We were dire in the second half though and lucky to get a point in the end as that was a definite penalty for handball by Grealish.
1 point from the last 3 fixtures is simply not good enough in our position.
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Is Steve Bruce going to have enough to tactically outwit someone for 2 or 3 tight / tense play off games?
Haha!
I spat wine all over the settee at 'tactically'.
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When it came to the time of season you have to really stand up and show what you are made of we've made our excuses and left.
Yep.
Bruce has been telling everyone for ages that season starts when the daffodils appear.
Shame most of our lot have hayfever.
Indeed he has, so it's down to him to make sure the team are fully prepared for a strong finish. Unfortunately, he's failed: and it'll cost us promotion & he'll get the tin-tack. He certainly won't be able to say he wasn't given greater resources than anybody else in the division. Hey bloody ho.
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Shocking 2nd half performance, probably the worst game Grealish has had, since he came back into the team. Of the possible play off teams, Derby are the only team we would beat, on the form of the last 3 matches.
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1 point against fecking hull , shit Bolton and crap QPR and lucky to get a point
Sums it up. Not getting 7 to 9 points against that lot during the run in shows we're just not good enough to be promoted automatically. Perhaps the team can turn up for the playoffs. Having said that, I couldn't really care less about being involved with the premier league.
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Was a Remi Guarde sort of performance.
Bruce clueless to change matches. Doesn’t do midfields.
I sack him a get JT to fire them up for play offs.
I'm not sure you can blame Bruce for Alberts misses in the first half.
not just the misses is it.. the shite performances of the last three games
We weren't shite in the first half. My point is, had Albert scored when he should have, the game would have been very different.
Should've would've could've. Didn't.
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I think they've bottled it because they know that unless they get second, we won't go up.
Even if we get in the play off's, can anyone actually see us winning the semi final over two legs and winning the final? All momentum has been lost and the last 3 results have been totally unacceptable.
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I will draw at random a white card from Cards Against Humanity to describe that shit show.
And the winner is.............
An oversized lollipop.
Haha. That's cheered me up somewhat. Superb game.
Daddy why is mom crying?
The glass ceiling.
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So many poor performances tonight. Very disappointing to take one point from three games we should be winning. Our midfield three were anonymous for large parts and Snodgrass and Adomah very sluggish. I wonder if we have accepted our fate and are holding something back for the play offs. Bloody dangerous game if so.
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I think they've bottled it because they know that unless they get second, we won't go up.
Even if we get in the play off's, can anyone actally see us winning the semi final over two legs and winning the final? All momentum has been lost and the last 3 results have been totally unacceptable.
With Bruce in charge, no, with someone with a massive point to prove, yes. We have the players, of that there can be no doubt. Any fucker would give it a better shot, imo.
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I will draw at random a white card from Cards Against Humanity to describe that shit show.
And the winner is.............
An oversized lollipop.
Haha. That's cheered me up somewhat. Superb game.
Daddy why is mom crying?
The glass ceiling.
Mom, why is dad crying?
The Villa
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“That’s The Championship”. Aaaaaaarghhhh, fuuuuuuucccccckkkkkk offffffffffffff!
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Was a Remi Guarde sort of performance.
Bruce clueless to change matches. Doesn’t do midfields.
I sack him a get JT to fire them up for play offs.
I'm not sure you can blame Bruce for Alberts misses in the first half.
not just the misses is it.. the shite performances of the last three games
We weren't shite in the first half. My point is, had Albert scored when he should have, the game would have been very different.
Should've would've could've. Didn't.
I get that, I was pissed off too, but equally so the reaction on here is bonkers, to accuse the players of not trying, or Snograss of being 'sluggish'. His delivery was excellent, his forward play penetrating, unfortunately Albert and Grabbon didn't convert when they should have. We will still make the play offs, and as for 'momentum', er we have another game on Tuesday.
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Was a Remi Guarde sort of performance.
Bruce clueless to change matches. Doesn’t do midfields.
I sack him a get JT to fire them up for play offs.
I'm not sure you can blame Bruce for Alberts misses in the first half.
not just the misses is it.. the shite performances of the last three games
We weren't shite in the first half. My point is, had Albert scored when he should have, the game would have been very different.
maybe and if they had got a blatant pen ... but albert has been below par for weeks .. we should be good enough thou to create a lot more
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“That’s The Championship”. Aaaaaaarghhhh, fuuuuuuucccccckkkkkk offffffffffffff!
Glad it's not just me.
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“That’s The Championship”. Aaaaaaarghhhh, fuuuuuuucccccckkkkkk offffffffffffff!
Yes tell that to Nuno, Warnock and Jokanovic. Fuck right off.
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“That’s The Championship”. Aaaaaaarghhhh, fuuuuuuucccccckkkkkk offffffffffffff!
Doesn't seem to be the Championship for Wolves and Cardiff, or Newcastle and Brighton last year and so on. It's an excuse for 1 game, not for regular shit runs.
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“That’s The Championship”. Aaaaaaarghhhh, fuuuuuuucccccckkkkkk offffffffffffff!
Yes tell that to Nuno, Warnock and Jokanovic. Fuck right off.
Yep, was thinking the same thing. It’s Steve Bruce’s perception of the Championship that you have to grind it out week after week. Other managers with the same and most cases less resources find ways to be more attractive than us. I’ll be delighted when he’s gone and his miserable version of playing football.
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Post-match interview
https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/980159911983230977
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What I don't understand, and can't accept, is the near total lack of urgency on display, particularly in the second half.
Too many players stroking the ball around casually (mostly to the opposition) like it was a training game.
Absolutely unacceptable.
I am starting to think the best thing would have been to lose to Wolves, or at least not thrash them, because since that game we've looked like we think we're too good for this division.
The last three games have been absolutely pathetic.
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Was a Remi Guarde sort of performance.
Bruce clueless to change matches. Doesn’t do midfields.
I sack him a get JT to fire them up for play offs.
I'm not sure you can blame Bruce for Alberts misses in the first half.
not just the misses is it.. the shite performances of the last three games
We weren't shite in the first half. My point is, had Albert scored when he should have, the game would have been very different.
Should've would've could've. Didn't.
I get that, I was pissed off too, but equally so the reaction on here is bonkers, to accuse the players of not trying, or Snograss of being 'sluggish'. His delivery was excellent, his forward play penetrating, unfortunately Albert and Grabbon didn't convert when they should have. We will still make the play offs, and as for 'momentum', er we have another game on Tuesday.
People have differing opinions. Yours is no less valid than others, or any more accurate. For my money, unusually, Snodgrass has an off day. His delivery from corners was good but he was as poor as anyone else. One of those things.
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"the more forward players we brought on the worse we became".
Good grief.
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My other half, half watching from the sofa, asked if it was a friendly! Sums the energy up really.
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I expected more from this forum - it's turning into Rams/Owls talk. Yours AngryVillain.
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"the more forward players we brought on the worse we became".
Good grief.
I know, who could have ever predicted that, just like every other time we've tried it, going 'full Lambert' wouldn't work?
Typical bloody Villa, every time we get ourselves in a position to push on we screw up. Why can't we ever just have nice things?
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“That’s The Championship”. Aaaaaaarghhhh, fuuuuuuucccccckkkkkk offffffffffffff!
Yes tell that to Nuno, Warnock and Jokanovic. Fuck right off.
Yep, another fuck off from me. Not the man we need in charge is he.
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It’s not acceptable, it really isn’t, at the moment he is doing less than what is minimum. What a time how to forget to play
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“That’s The Championship”. Aaaaaaarghhhh, fuuuuuuucccccckkkkkk offffffffffffff!
Yes tell that to Nuno, Warnock and Jokanovic. Fuck right off.
Yep, another fuck off from me. Not the man we need in charge is he.
Yup. Let's sack him now, that'll work.
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Well done to the ref for being absolutely shite at his job and denying them the most stonewall penalty you're likely to see, thats about all really.
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“That’s The Championship”. Aaaaaaarghhhh, fuuuuuuucccccckkkkkk offffffffffffff!
Yes tell that to Nuno, Warnock and Jokanovic. Fuck right off.
Yep, another fuck off from me. Not the man we need in charge is he.
Yup. Let's sack him now, that'll work.
I also think it will work. Whoever's in charge for three games can't do any worse.
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Seriously no one would sack him tonight, but come on this is just not good enough & I struggle to see how anyone can say it is
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he will be here to the play offs , then we are all going to have the sweatest arses we have ever had .
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he will be here to the play offs , then we are all going to have the sweatest arses we have ever had
Don't know about will have, mine already is.
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If the acceptable standard was an automatic promotion place then so far, over the course of the season Bruce hasn't done well enough. As it's unlikely we will recover 2nd place, I'm open to options in terms of managers. If we're in the championship next season we definitely need to change.
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"the more forward players we brought on the worse we became".
Good grief.
What about keeping a shape in place Bruce?? His fucking no midfield policy late on in games we are struggling is unbelievably simpleton.
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Just got back.
Awful game, and my son and I agreed that it was the lack of a robust midfield. Angela played okay, as did Jedi, but early on in the second half Hourihane should have come on for the hapless Albert. Once again, I thought Bernard Cribbins was out-thought by an opposing manager: in the second half, Hull were a completely different proposition and we had no answer.
And, we’re not very good at passing the ball to a player in the same colours ...
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Seriously trying to track my brains as to anytime where playing a 4-2-4 has worked for anyone ? Can only think of Middlesborough's bizarre run to the UEFA Cup final, where (future England manager) Steve Maclaren used it in a few rounds before getting toned in the final ? Sure there must be others. Somewhere...
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Only tactic that's gonna save Nan's hair now is praying Kodjia regains his scoring boots for the play-offs.
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First half wanky. Second half worse.
Poor decision making all night.
The first half was good. Victory was inevitable. Hull stepped up and Bruce couldn't cope. Get rid at the end of the season whatever happens.
As I said last season RDM shouldn't have been sacked to be replaced by this joker. The Wolves win was obviously a fluke.
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First half wanky. Second half worse.
Poor decision making all night.
The first half was good. Victory was inevitable. Hull stepped up and Bruce couldn't cope. Get rid at the end of the season whatever happens.
As I said last season RDM shouldn't have been sacked to be replaced by this joker. The Wolves win was obviously a fluke.
You really have no idea do you?
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Watched it on mute so didn’t hear any of the analysis but that looked as tepid as the last two non performances, they’ve submitted top 2 after doing the hard work to get back there so the credit Brucie got for getting them to work as a unit up to Wolves is thrown back at him.
Did Hutton make a challenge that accompetent ref wouldn’t have given as a foul, how anyone can want him here come August completely beats me.
Axel reminds me of the young Micah, has clearly played a lot of youth football using his physical power to defend the ball and getting away with it, in men’s football you have to remember to kick the ball as well.
We can only hope that come play off time we are back trying to win and out of this Brucie rut.
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Only tactic that's gonna save Nan's hair now is praying Kodjia regains his scoring boots for the play-offs.
Strikers are no good if there is nobody to give them quality ball.
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"the more forward players we brought on the worse we became".
Good grief.
What about keeping a shape in place Bruce?? His fucking no midfield policy late on in games we are struggling is unbelievably simpleton.
I haven't had the dubious pleasure of listening to his post-match 'assessment', but the aforementioned nonsense that he uttered has the hallmark of a manager who has lost the plot. He seems like a nice guy, but I'm afraid he's rapidly approaching the end of his tenure at VP.
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Well done to the ref for being absolutely shite at his job and denying them the most stonewall penalty you're likely to see, thats about all really.
Definite pen but I think the one where their bloke took it away from Albert with his hands was a pen too. Generally though we did seem to get the rub of the green with decisions.
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Steve Bruce on Sky (http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/11312114/a-game-of-two-halves-for-bruce)
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Brief moments (http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/11311977/hull-0-0-aston-villa)
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"we go again"
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First half wanky. Second half worse.
Poor decision making all night.
The first half was good. Victory was inevitable. Hull stepped up and Bruce couldn't cope. Get rid at the end of the season whatever happens.
As I said last season RDM shouldn't have been sacked to be replaced by this joker. The Wolves win was obviously a fluke.
You really have no idea do you?
Bruce is shit. End of.
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Blessing in disguise. After the previous two games we were never going up automatically. Everything now needs to be channelled on the play offs.
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Blessing in disguise. After the previous two games we were never going up automatically. Everything now needs to be channelled on the play offs.
Lose away, draw at home. Bruce sacked.
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We were well in control in the first half but had no final ball or cutting edge. Adomah would ordinarily have bagged a brace from his chances.
Then, they presumably had a dressing down at half time and pushed the line higher and pressed higher and got the upper hand. We should know or anticipate what the opposition may do and counter accordingly.
The defence started to look shaky because Tuanzebe's performance just permeated indecision and as soon as Jedinak went off, although he looked spent, we had no proper cover for the defence either and ended up with 3 forwards on but little service.
We were debating at lunchtime whether to stay home, and given the cold and the disappointing overall performance, we made the wrong choice.
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Not long in from a very disappointing day. Quite how we went from bossing it at half time to undoing all our hard work in the second, only Bruce will know. Putting striker after striker on is all well and good, but when your midfield (what’s left of it anyway) creates the square root of fuck all it’s all rather pointless. Too many poor passes, too many individual battles lost and zero creativity.
Well that’s second place gone...we had better focus on getting some momentum, form and goals back into this team for the play offs. Must do much, much better on Tuesday.
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Worse thing with Bruce post-match interviews is he doesn't even seem annoyed or upset anymore. I mean we've just blown any chance of automatic promotion in 3 games and you think we'd lost a pre-season friendly. I'd hope any Villa Manager worth the name would be fuming.
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Hutton’s dive, Grealish’s handball, Adomah’s muffs, Lansbury’s existence, Bruce’s indifference, a night to forget
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Worse thing with Bruce post-match interviews is he doesn't even seem annoyed or upset anymore. I mean we've just blown any chance of automatic promotion in 3 games and you think we'd lost a pre-season friendly. I'd hope any Villa Manager worth the name would be fuming.
"We're there or there abouts" has been his mantra from Day 1.
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Worse thing with Bruce post-match interviews is he doesn't even seem annoyed or upset anymore. I mean we've just blown any chance of automatic promotion in 3 games and you think we'd lost a pre-season friendly. I'd hope any Villa Manager worth the name would be fuming.
"We're there or there abouts" has been his mantra from Day 1.
It's numbingly tiresome, mate. I can't really listen to his post match interviews.
Me personally, I think it would be wrong to sack him now. Not because I want him to stay, just because I feel it could result in our players just caving in. It's clear that some of them really like him, especially the influential ones like Snodgrass and Terry.
We need to win our next game and see what happens. We seem to rouse ourselves for the bigger matches. Or maybe we don't. I'm tired of watching us serve up dross.
I still think we'll go up in the playoffs.
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Snodgrass was trying too hard in my opinion taking too many on, the passing of Hull in the second half was far superior. The defence that looked rock solid a few weeks ago now looks vulnerable. I wonder what Bruce said to them at half time because from the whistle they went into slow motion. We are not good enough for the Premiership and even if we did get up the likes of Terry and Snodgrass would be found out very quickly. Still think we need younger legs in the line up.
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Can't understand anyone watching this, I turned over to the City Everton game. Watching Villa is like watching parks football by comparison.
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Worse thing with Bruce post-match interviews is he doesn't even seem annoyed or upset anymore. I mean we've just blown any chance of automatic promotion in 3 games and you think we'd lost a pre-season friendly. I'd hope any Villa Manager worth the name would be fuming.
I'm beginning to think he knows he's going at the end of the season and is preparing the ground for his defence. 'I stopped the rot and turned it round'. He has to a degree but a better manager could have done so much more.
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Can't understand anyone watching this, I turned over to the City Everton game. Watching Villa is like watching parks football by comparison.
See ya.
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Can't understand anyone watching this, I turned over to the City Everton game. Watching Villa is like watching parks football by comparison.
See ya.
One of the oddest posts i've seen on here, asking why fans are watching their own team.
As for yesterday, first half we were ok and should have gone in at half time in front. Second half was diaspointing though. While a point is better than nothing, we really should be winning games like that because Hull were terrible.
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Yep past three games we've been way below par unfortunately.
We've timed the dip just right though to be back on a crest come the Play Offs.
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2 points taken from Hull this season. Dropped points v QPR, Millwall, Bolton, Sheff Wednesday - it’s all those that have well and truly ruined any hopes of automatic promotion.
I don’t want to get on Bruces’s back once more but he doesn’t make it easy does he. Issue is with Bruce we are either in a consistent unbeaten run which is then followed by consistent runs of awful form, then repeat. This this extreme cycles of form which means we’re never going to be a proper challenger.
My only hope now is we rediscover some kind of form as we go into the play offs (even they are not a given at the minute unless we get some results and fast)
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Yep past three games we've been way below par unfortunately.
We've timed the dip just right though to be back on a crest come the Play Offs.
I love your optimism. I can imagine Bruce planning it that way. "Let's be shite for a while then we'll come good in the play offs. It normally works for me".
Painful watching a full strength team struggle against Hull knowing we'll need to sell the better players to break even in the summer.
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“That’s The Championship”. Aaaaaaarghhhh, fuuuuuuucccccckkkkkk offffffffffffff!
Doesn't seem to be the Championship for Wolves and Cardiff, or Newcastle and Brighton last year and so on. It's an excuse for 1 game, not for regular shit runs.
He boils my piss with these types of comments. I’m trying not to let it wind me up as he won’t be manager come June
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Yeah the its the championship comments are really very annoying now as clearly there are 3 teams and least dispelling that myth , even Milwall who have a tiny budget are able to put a run together.
Frankly I'd sack him now and gamble on a new manager bounce in the play offs I am that pissed off at the crap I have witnessed since Wolves.
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We have looked so flat since scaling the heights against Wolves and I'm as disappointed as eveyone else on here but there's no reason why the players cannot rally and regain form for the play offs, I still feel that in those pressure cooker games with full houses and our fans driving them on that our players will get us promoted.
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well Huddersfield's form turned to shit during the run-in and they went up without winning a game so anything is possible. I'm no Bruce apologist but sacking him now is madness - for a start who could we bring in?
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As for yesterday, first half we were ok and should have gone in at half time in front. Second half was diaspointing though. While a point is better than nothing, we really should be winning games like that because Hull were terrible.
Just about sums it up;very well, in fact.
We should ask the question: how many games have we really dominated through ‘good football’ versus sheer force of character? 2 or 3. And when the opposition managers are so easily able to counter our game tactics (such as they are), winning at least a point off us is really not very hard.
Okay: so I’ve exaggerated it: clearly, we’re 4th, so we’re not a total rollover. But I’m sure you get my point.
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Yes I do get your point Mister E but I am having trouble with the punctuations🙂
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"We need to give our heads a wobble".
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Garbage. 3 wins out of 8.
You have our bad run starting at Fulham rather than QPR?
I think it's possible to be in a good run and lose or draw the odd one (like we did against Fulham and Preston) and then return to type. As we then eased to victories over Wednesday, Sunderland and Wolves.
I fear the latest Bruce shit-streak only started then and there's a few more bad results to come. Starting with another limp display at VP on a Tuesday against blue and white hooped opposition.
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"the more forward players we brought on the worse we became".
Good grief.
we then had to rely on Johnstone's variable clearances to forwards who couldn't get shit to stick to them and an absence of midfielders to pick up the second ball......that's relegation tactic planning to me.
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what is it with Bruce
shit start
amazing run
shit december
amazing January
shit again now
he needs another shit 3 games now, and then go on a brilliant run again just as the play offs come up.
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I'm quite looking forward to the Play Offs. Semi and Cup final football.
35,000 Villa at Wembley, taking over Covent Garden and watching us promoted in exciting fashion.
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I'm pretty sure SB's last full season at this level was very similar.
Hull in 15/16 were heavily tipped to go up in top 2.
They were around that position for much of that season, might've been 2nd after new year but last few months they tailed off and finished 4th.
Still won the play offs though.
There is no exact formula to win them, the sixth side storming in to win them has actually happened less than I thought. The third place team has gone up the most times I think.
What's clear though is we need to find our level again as we've been very flat last few games.
Can only think after the euphoria of Wolves the players have quickly got dispirited by how far 2nd has again gone into the distance by Cardiff continually winning.
They know automatic promotion has gone and the performances on the pitch are now reflecting it. We need to forget about that now and just focus on playing well again, scoring a few goals and regaining confidence.
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Yes I do get your point Mister E but I am having trouble with the punctuations🙂
My enthusiasm has been punctuated recently by the dross that has followed such a good game against the Dheads ...
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I'm quite looking forward to the Play Offs. Semi and Cup final football.
35,000 Villa at Wembley, taking over Covenant Garden and watching us promoted in exciting fashion.
Covenant Garden? I can't agree on that !!! :)
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Hull in 15/16:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35584437
They were top after that game on Tues 23rd Feb 2016.
Won just 3 of their next 11 league games and finished 4th.
Still roused themselves to win the play offs though so it can be done.
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Fulham are the best side in the 3-6th positions. They should end up 3rd and have the plum 2-legged tie before a visit to Wembley.
My concern is that our gameplay is so predictable that any half-decent manager should have the wherewithal to nullify our strengths, even with only a workmanlike squad at their disposal. We don't even mix it up with our 2 wingers switching wings every 15 minutes; as a result of which our crosses from the wings are slow (because both current wingers have to check inside to deliver).
Shit, if our 'go-to' change of tactic is to denude the MF and have 3 or 4 strikers on the pitch we really are in trouble.
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Fulham are the best side in the 3-6th positions. They should end up 3rd and have the plum 2-legged tie before a visit to Wembley.
My concern is that our gameplay is so predictable that any half-decent manager should have the wherewithal to nullify our strengths, even with only a workmanlike squad at their disposal. We don't even mix it up with our 2 wingers switching wings every 15 minutes; as a result of which our crosses from the wings are slow (because both current wingers have to check inside to deliver).
Shit, if our 'go-to' change of tactic is to denude the MF and have 3 or 4 strikers on the pitch we really are in trouble.
3-4 strikers with Samba too. Playoff final extra time.
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We've won 20 out of 39 and on our day can batter anybody senseless.
See what the Play Offs bring.
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I thought Tuanzebe looked awful
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I'm hoping Cardiff implode and Fulham get 2nd place..really don't fancy playing Fulham in a one off with our sit back and try and nick something tactics. That's assuming we actually make the play off final, which given our current form is no certainty at all.
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knowing Villa , Millwall will do us in the semis .... i dont want 3rd now , just dont fancy Millwall in a semi.
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I'm quite looking forward to the Play Offs. Semi and Cup final football.
35,000 Villa at Wembley, taking over Covent Garden and watching us promoted in exciting fashion.
Oh no that's fucked it as most of your gung-ho predictions end up in failure.
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I'm quite looking forward to the Play Offs. Semi and Cup final football.
35,000 Villa at Wembley, taking over Covent Garden and watching us promoted in exciting fashion.
Oh no that's fucked it as most of your gung-ho predictions end up in failure.
In defence of Ads, he didn't say which season.
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I'm quite looking forward to the Play Offs. Semi and Cup final football.
35,000 Villa at Wembley, taking over Covent Garden and watching us promoted in exciting fashion.
I've always enjoyed the play offs, but part of the fun is watching the emotional turmoil of the manager, players and fans. It must be a nightmare.
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I'm quite looking forward to the Play Offs. Semi and Cup final football.
35,000 Villa at Wembley, taking over Convent Garden and watching us promoted in exciting fashion.
You’ll get Nun here.
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I'm quite looking forward to the Play Offs. Semi and Cup final football.
35,000 Villa at Wembley, taking over Covent Garden and watching us promoted in exciting fashion.
Oh no that's fucked it as most of your gung-ho predictions end up in failure.
In defence of Ads, he didn't say which season.
Thankfully he didn’t mention Villa either.
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Eh?
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Somebody alluded earlier that Bruce seems to be able to raise our game for the big games. It looks like that's our only hope.
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I'm quite looking forward to the Play Offs. Semi and Cup final football.
35,000 Villa at Wembley, taking over Covent Garden and watching us promoted in exciting fashion.
"Taking over Covent Garden"?
How dreadfully provincial
;-)
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I'm quite looking forward to the Play Offs. Semi and Cup final football.
35,000 Villa at Wembley, taking over Covent Garden and watching us promoted in exciting fashion.
"Taking over Covent Garden"?
How dreadfully provincial
;-)
The wine bars will be positively heaving darling! We drank The Dirty Martini completely dry of Grey Goose!
(Actually, is it wrong that sounds quite appealing? I'll take a spare ticket from you Ads)
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I'm quite looking forward to the Play Offs. Semi and Cup final football.
35,000 Villa at Wembley, taking over Covent Garden and watching us promoted in exciting fashion.
"Taking over Covent Garden"?
How dreadfully provincial
;-)
I reckon if we mob up and organize ourselves right we can totally 'take' the Royal Opera House.
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I'm quite looking forward to the Play Offs. Semi and Cup final football.
35,000 Villa at Wembley, taking over Covent Garden and watching us promoted in exciting fashion.
"Taking over Covent Garden"?
How dreadfully provincial
;-)
You not like soup? You Nazi!
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I'm quite looking forward to the Play Offs. Semi and Cup final football.
35,000 Villa at Wembley, taking over Covent Garden and watching us promoted in exciting fashion.
"Taking over Covent Garden"?
How dreadfully provincial
;-)
The wine bars will be positively heaving darling! We drank The Dirty Martini completely dry of Grey Goose!
(Actually, is it wrong that sounds quite appealing? I'll take a spare ticket from you Ads)
Every time I mooch about in London I head up there for a burger. Don't want to be drinking with the white shirt brigade*.
Although in reality it's far more uncouth than that. We were there in 2010 and most northern oiks pack it out the night before. Google is your friend.
* that was how we Snobbers and Subwayers/Sanctuary indie kids would describe the Lloyds and Risa bar blockheads circa 2005.
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If any of you slags venture near Lammas Park we'll gob in your chai latte.
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I'm quite looking forward to the Play Offs. Semi and Cup final football.
35,000 Villa at Wembley, taking over Covent Garden and watching us promoted in exciting fashion.
"Taking over Covent Garden"?
How dreadfully provincial
;-)
You not like soup? You Nazi!
*knowing nod *
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I'm quite looking forward to the Play Offs. Semi and Cup final football.
35,000 Villa at Wembley, taking over Convent Garden and watching us promoted in exciting fashion.
You’ll get Nun here.
it’s habitual.
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Fulham are the best side in the 3-6th positions. They should end up 3rd and have the plum 2-legged tie before a visit to Wembley.
My concern is that our gameplay is so predictable that any half-decent manager should have the wherewithal to nullify our strengths, even with only a workmanlike squad at their disposal. We don't even mix it up with our 2 wingers switching wings every 15 minutes; as a result of which our crosses from the wings are slow (because both current wingers have to check inside to deliver).
Shit, if our 'go-to' change of tactic is to denude the MF and have 3 or 4 strikers on the pitch we really are in trouble.
THIS !!
Adomah /Snodgrass and Grealish could all move positions in that attacking 3 to mix things up but no they are kept in exactly the same positions .If your going to stick 2 men up front then the last thing you need is both the wide men checking back inside to cross all the time it gives the opposition time to get back and defend .
For us to go up I suspect Bruce will need to stumble upon a different winning forumula as the current one looks to have been found out by opposing managers .I suspect he will need to sacrifice one of the attackers to give us more bodies in midfield .
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W
Wtf?