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Title: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 06, 2018, 09:38:29 PM
We may not have an easier game this season. We didn’t have to get out of 2nd gear most of the evening. Very professional display and most encouraging was the return of Jack and Bertie. Bring on the dogheads.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: PaulWinch again on March 06, 2018, 09:39:20 PM
Good stuff. Now win Saturday Villa.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 06, 2018, 09:40:10 PM
No dead cat bounce. Sunderland are one of the worst sides i've seen. Fairfield Villa would beat them. We didn't play that well, we didn't need to.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: andyh on March 06, 2018, 09:40:14 PM
Great getting 3 points for winning a training match.
Well done boys.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on March 06, 2018, 09:40:31 PM
Second gear workout for our squad.Thorough.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: cdbearsfan on March 06, 2018, 09:41:53 PM
Good, professional, performance by the sound of it. I reckon Derby have fucked it so it's one from three now. Maybe two from four if Wolves fail to beat Leeds and lose to us.

Good luck to Sunderland for the rest of the season, hopefully they'll prove the thread title wrong.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: London Villan on March 06, 2018, 09:42:08 PM
With 4 games in 10 days that's exactly what we wanted. Solid performance. Well done lads.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Pete3206 on March 06, 2018, 09:42:23 PM
Great
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: SamTheMouse on March 06, 2018, 09:43:09 PM
A routine win against one of the worst sides I have ever seen.

Grealish and Adomah returning is going to make a difference in the run-in - especially Jack, who is the beating heart of the side. Pulls the strings, makes us tick, whatever metaphor you want to use - the game just seems to happen around him these days. I could watch the lad play all day.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 06, 2018, 09:43:15 PM
I didn't realise small heath have changed their name again. All I ever hear is people calling them by their new name, Birmingham City Nil.

/baddumtish
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Louzie0 on March 06, 2018, 09:44:24 PM
Woooo hooooo!
Three nil!
Yessssss!
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: chrisw1 on March 06, 2018, 09:45:24 PM
Excellent result.  Can’t believe how tight it is at the top.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Villafirst on March 06, 2018, 09:46:06 PM
I reckon Villa and Fulham to take the automatic places. Wolves to go up via the play-offs is my prediction....
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Exeter 77 on March 06, 2018, 09:46:27 PM
I didn't realise small heath have changed their name again. All I ever hear is people calling them by their new name, Birmingham City Nil.

/baddumtish
Just heard they have scored 11 goals in 18 home games. Is that right? If it is that makes them even worse than I thought.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Richard E on March 06, 2018, 09:46:45 PM
Excellent result.  Can’t believe how tight it is at the top.

28 points out of the last 33 and we're still only third!
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 06, 2018, 09:47:42 PM
It will be interesting to see if Jack starts at the weekend and how he does versus Neves and Jota. They’ve got two superb midfielders there. I expect he’ll be back, and I’d like see Adomah and Jedinak with Grabban up front on his own.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 06, 2018, 09:48:08 PM
I wish to register my disgust at the thread title.
We have a black cat and he's lovely (had him about a year).
If he comes wandering by while I'm on here it could upset him.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: XXVilla on March 06, 2018, 09:48:24 PM
Excellent result.  Can’t believe how tight it is at the top.

28 points out of the last 33 and we're still only third!

Someone’s gonna crack.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: SoccerHQ on March 06, 2018, 09:48:47 PM
Completely professional performance.

Yes we could've played better in parts but we won comfortably and could've scored more.

Sad to see the state Sunderland are in, we thought we've had it bad the last few years. They are really on another level of ineptness.

Looking forward to Wolves now.

Frustrating that Cardiff keep winning but with the fixtures we have left we should be pretty capable of getting another 20 + points. 88 points and we'd be very unlucky not to make second.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 06, 2018, 09:49:37 PM
Excellent result.  Can’t believe how tight it is at the top.

28 points out of the last 33 and we're still only third!

Fulham, W11 D3 L0 and still outsiders for top 2.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Meanwood Villa on March 06, 2018, 09:49:43 PM
Well done lads. All we can do is keep winning.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Clampy on March 06, 2018, 09:50:07 PM
Watched it on a stream which wasnt the best but watchable.
It looked fairly comfortable enough and we could have scored a few more if we'd wanted to. The midfield will need tightening up for Saturday though. Good workmanlike 3 points which will do.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: paulcomben on March 06, 2018, 09:50:45 PM
Sunderland still have Derby & Fulham & Wolves to play. Come on Coleman!
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Nastylee on March 06, 2018, 09:50:52 PM
An easy win that won't have sapped the energy levels. I can see Cardiff faltering but the worry is Fulham given they have won all the recent tricky games. Their run in looks pretty regulation now so we need to hope complacency sets in and we can keep pulling results out the bag. It's going to be close.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: paul_e on March 06, 2018, 09:51:24 PM
very very easy.

Hourihane looked fucked in the last half hour though, he should've been given a break his touch and passing got really sloppy.  Snodgrass was a bit sloppy at times as well.  Jack was superb when he came on, could easily have had 2-3 assists if Adomah and Snodgrass had shown a bit more urgency.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: SoccerHQ on March 06, 2018, 09:52:17 PM
It will be interesting to see if Jack starts at the weekend and how he does versus Neves and Jota. They’ve got two superb midfielders there. I expect he’ll be back, and I’d like see Adomah and Jedinak with Grabban up front on his own.

Agree with that. Hogan's stopped scoring again and he does little else to justify selection.

Grabban's been excellent and pretty sure he can play lone striker as we will need five in midfield with the quality Wolves have.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Dave P on March 06, 2018, 09:53:13 PM
I’ve said all season that we would have been where a Sunderland are if we were not taken over after relegation. Today really hits home how scary that would have been.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: john e on March 06, 2018, 09:54:27 PM
Sunderland are worse than Blues but they are both going down unless Monk does something miraculous
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: dave shelley on March 06, 2018, 09:56:23 PM
Well done to all concerned.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: saunders_heroes on March 06, 2018, 09:57:07 PM
Glad to hear Grealish looked good when he came on.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Deano's Mullet on March 06, 2018, 09:57:24 PM
19 wins and still eleven to go... exciting times. We havent won that many league games in a season since 1992-93.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: brontebilly on March 06, 2018, 09:57:27 PM
I’ve said all season that we would have been where a Sunderland are if we were not taken over after relegation. Today really hits home how scary that would have been.

only saw first half but it was enough, very sad to see the state Sunderland are in.

nice handy game pre Wolves
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Steve67 on March 06, 2018, 09:58:09 PM
Another good win. Well done. I hope the dubious goals panel give the oggie to Hourihane.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: AsTallAsLions on March 06, 2018, 09:58:20 PM
Wasn't sure whether to laugh at or feel sorry for Sunderland and then saw O'Shea smiling after the 2nd goal went in. As bad if not worse than Micah et al. They deserve to go down and down and down.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Villafirst on March 06, 2018, 10:00:44 PM
I bet the smug doghead fans are beginning to sweat now......even more so after defeat at Leeds tomorrow and this coming Saturday....
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: oldtimernow on March 06, 2018, 10:01:59 PM
It's coming down to a stare competition , whichever team blinks first is going to be a goner.

Derby have gone 3 more to go
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: paul_e on March 06, 2018, 10:03:13 PM
I reckon the table tonight is the top 6 come the end of the season (with the order to be decided).  I think Boro will snatch 5th and Derby will hang on to scrape a play off spot but the top 4 is looking very tight.  A win at the weekend would be huge for us and would open up both automatic spots nicely (especially if Wolves drop points tomorrow).  I don't like the gap to Cardiff though, the game agianst them is, in my opinion, the first genuine must win of the season.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Legion on March 06, 2018, 10:06:09 PM
Highlights (http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/11279214/sunderland-0-3-aston-villa)
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: adrenachrome on March 06, 2018, 10:07:34 PM
Cheers, Lee.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: PeterWithe on March 06, 2018, 10:09:07 PM
No wonder the Sunderland fans were so resigned, they were absolutely crap.

We played adequately, we only needed to.

A bit more professionalism in front of goal wouldn't have gone amiss but we did what we needed to.

Well done Villa, mom Snodgrass
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Legion on March 06, 2018, 10:10:07 PM
I like Sunderland. Hope they stop up. Doubt it, though.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: QuintonVilla on March 06, 2018, 10:10:24 PM
Comfortable win without getting out of second gear. Sunderland are dreadful and it's always sad to see such a big ground so empty, especially as it could have been us.

Huge game now on Saturday, hopefully Small Heath can do us a favour at Cardiff before we play but I can't see it.

Support was superb tonight. Up The Villa
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: tomd2103 on March 06, 2018, 10:18:07 PM
Good, professional win and as others have said, a couple of key players back as well.  Grabban hitting a real hot scoring streak over the next couple of weeks would be very welcome.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: oldtimernow on March 06, 2018, 10:19:08 PM
I thought we were sloppy in places, the forwards often playing the ball back and under hitting the pass, Hogan never gets near to heading one of Johnstone's clearances.
Elmo, Terry, Whelan and Taylor all guilty of playing hospital passes at times, lucky not to get punished, they will by better teams.
When we are under pressure we never seem to be able to find an outlet player and hence the ball comes back at us.
Johnstone's kicking is poor , I reckon 1 out of 3 goes somewhere intended.
How many times did we have an attacking opportunity only for the ball to end up at Johnstone's feet?


and yet we still won 3-0.....just shows how crap they were, I'm afraid not how good we were.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Legion on March 06, 2018, 10:20:31 PM
I thought we were sloppy in places, the forwards often playing the ball back and under hitting the pass, Hogan never gets near to heading one of Johnstone's clearances.
Elmo, Terry, Whelan and Taylor all guilty of playing hospital passes at times, lucky not to get punished, they will by better teams.
When we are under pressure we never seem to be able to find an outlet player and hence the ball comes back at us.
Johnstone's kicking is poor , I reckon 1 out of 3 goes somewhere intended.
How many times did we have an attacking opportunity only for the ball to end up at Johnstone's feet?


and yet we still won 3-0.....just shows how crap they were, I'm afraid not how good we were.


We won.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: auntiesledd on March 06, 2018, 10:21:07 PM
Well done lads - & the great Villa support there tonight.

Bring on The Dog 'eads!

UTV
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Villafirst on March 06, 2018, 10:21:57 PM
Monk out, surely?
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: tomd2103 on March 06, 2018, 10:22:22 PM
Highlights (http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/11279214/sunderland-0-3-aston-villa)

Nice to see the blue socks again!!
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: oldtimernow on March 06, 2018, 10:23:54 PM
I know we won but we shouldn't ignore our deficiencies
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: saunders_heroes on March 06, 2018, 10:24:05 PM
Let’s hope Leeds turn up tomorrow night and take something from Wolves.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: MONCABA on March 06, 2018, 10:24:22 PM
Leeds will be a much tougher opposition for the dogheads  than we faced tonight. Hopefully,  a few heavy tackles from dirty Leeds, won't go a miss.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 06, 2018, 10:29:27 PM
it's always sad to see such a big ground so empty

I wouldn't say always, The Ricoh is a pretty big ground.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: leylandalbion on March 06, 2018, 10:30:22 PM
A 3 0 nil win away and people still moan.. a good sign. Can't wait for Saturday. VTID
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Tom_Mc9? on March 06, 2018, 10:31:15 PM
I know we won but we shouldn't ignore our deficiencies

Similarly it is useful to look at our qualities.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: curiousorange on March 06, 2018, 10:33:06 PM
Highlights (http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/11279214/sunderland-0-3-aston-villa)

Nice to see the blue socks again!!

Have to say, the kit looked mint tonight.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: andyh on March 06, 2018, 10:35:27 PM
I’m gonna say it.
I don’t want to be accused of going overboard or being overly dramatic, but...

Jack is starting to have a look of a young Sid about him.

There, I’ve said it.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: four fornicholl on March 06, 2018, 10:37:27 PM
I’m gonna say it.
I don’t want to be accused of going overboard or being overly dramatic, but...

Jack is starting to have a look of a young Sid about him.

There, I’ve said it.
You're not alone.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: joe_c on March 06, 2018, 10:37:49 PM
Nice routine victory ahead of sterner opposition on Saturday. Sunderland looked like us two years ago. Feel a bit bad for them.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: curiousorange on March 06, 2018, 10:41:56 PM
Grealish tonight was different gravy. If he plays like that on Saturday (or anywhere near what he was against Blues), Wolves won't have a clue what to do with him.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: paulcomben on March 06, 2018, 10:42:28 PM
Beating Wolves and Cardiff at home is really, really important. Winning 8 of the remaining 11 matches would, in any event, essentially guarantee Auto Promo.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: TonyD on March 06, 2018, 10:48:54 PM
The midweek match against Cardiff is huge.  Lock out crowd like against Ipswich.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: PeterWithe on March 06, 2018, 10:58:39 PM
Nice routine victory ahead of sterner opposition on Saturday. Sunderland looked like us two years ago. Feel a bit bad for them.

I said much the same to the fella next to me, they had a couple of talented players but a lot of them looked like they didn't give a shit. The rest looked scared stiff, even though the crowd couldn't be arsed to get angry with them.

There but for the grace of God..
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: paulcomben on March 06, 2018, 10:59:27 PM
The midweek match against Cardiff is huge.  Lock out crowd like against Ipswich.

<Like> I was there on the Holte. Fucking Eric ‘Looks like the red riding hood granny’ Gates still did not ‘win the league win the league win the league’ did he?
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 06, 2018, 11:00:43 PM
There's a lot of clubs more worthy of decline than Sunderland.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: paulcomben on March 06, 2018, 11:01:57 PM
Nice routine victory ahead of sterner opposition on Saturday. Sunderland looked like us two years ago. Feel a bit bad for them.

I said much the same to the fella next to me, they had a couple of talented players but a lot of them looked like they didn't give a shit. The rest looked scared stiff, even though the crowd couldn't be arsed to get angry with them.

There but for the grace of God..

I would empathise, but Fergie protege O’Shea is a complete disgrace.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: AsTallAsLions on March 06, 2018, 11:09:12 PM
Nice routine victory ahead of sterner opposition on Saturday. Sunderland looked like us two years ago. Feel a bit bad for them.

I said much the same to the fella next to me, they had a couple of talented players but a lot of them looked like they didn't give a shit. The rest looked scared stiff, even though the crowd couldn't be arsed to get angry with them.

There but for the grace of God..

I would empathise, but Fergie protege O’Shea is a complete disgrace.

He certainly is. They all are tbh.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: paul_e on March 06, 2018, 11:09:40 PM
Any team which plays 2 in centre mid and includes cattermole is in trouble, all he brings is a nasty streak which disappears as soon as he gets his yellow.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: pbavfckuwait on March 06, 2018, 11:17:09 PM
Good win,but Saturday will be a whole different ball game, we have to win as many of pour remaining as possible, as I cannot see any of Cardiff or Fulham blowing up between now and May, old Colin knows what he is doing and Fulham are on fire. But 3 points tonight well done Villa, lets go for it.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Villatillidie1982 on March 06, 2018, 11:33:38 PM
Let's hope the new manager effect truly kicks in and the 'Nose can do the business on Saturday. Will add extra spice to the Wolves game. We are going up.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: footyskillz on March 06, 2018, 11:40:59 PM
Just like to acknowledge Chessie and a well deserved goal. Think he's been up there with best signings since relegation. On and off pitch goes about his job professionally. International class, captain qualities and happy he buried header when seen him miss a few targets. Him and JT are the solid pairing in championship and both can play premier league. Pleasing to see Grabban show for goals and even more having grealish and adomoah involved. Enjoyed seeing Hourihane drive forward to force the og. Sunderland huffed and puffed especially second half with villa in second gear really and could have been more goals for villa. What I would like to see is Grealish not slow up with ball and drive forward like Leroy sane. Grealish can also shoot more as he is a great position many times.
Adomoah supply is on par with anyone in league and Grealish can also copy him if not sane.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: PeterWithe on March 06, 2018, 11:42:59 PM
Grabban was also excellent in his general play albeit a bit sloppy with simple passes.

He starts ahead of Hogan as a lone front man for me
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: olaftab on March 06, 2018, 11:50:30 PM
I thought we were sloppy in places, the forwards often playing the ball back and under hitting the pass, Hogan never gets near to heading one of Johnstone's clearances.
Elmo, Terry, Whelan and Taylor all guilty of playing hospital passes at times, lucky not to get punished, they will by better teams.
When we are under pressure we never seem to be able to find an outlet player and hence the ball comes back at us.
Johnstone's kicking is poor , I reckon 1 out of 3 goes somewhere intended.
How many times did we have an attacking opportunity only for the ball to end up at Johnstone's feet?


and yet we still won 3-0.....just shows how crap they were, I'm afraid not how good we were.

Great. This is the sort of critique that's going to turn us into invincible.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: olaftab on March 06, 2018, 11:54:55 PM
Nice routine victory ahead of sterner opposition on Saturday. Sunderland looked like us two years ago. Feel a bit bad for them.
2 years ago Sunderland looked like we did two years ago.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: olaftab on March 06, 2018, 11:56:47 PM
I’m gonna say it.
I don’t want to be accused of going overboard or being overly dramatic, but...

Jack is starting to have a look of a young Sid about him.

There, I’ve said it.
STOP GOING OVERBOARD and  oh  yes STOP BEING OVERLY DRAMATIC.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 07, 2018, 12:04:02 AM
What a strange game that was. It reminded me of a pre-season friendly against a lower league, part time team from Scandinavia in an half empty stadium. Just how poor are Sunderland? Like others, it's really sad to see them so shite. As I mentioned at half time, we never needed to get out of second gear to go in 2-0 up. It's a shame we couldn't raise our game and really punish them second half. It was only when Jack came on that we started to show some real ambition.

We probably won't have another easier game in the next 10 years, pre or full season. As others have stated, we were very sloppy at times and Grabban deserves a mention too amongst those already listed. He needs to work on his control and passing if he intends to feature more often. The other thing I noticed was how much we miss the Scottish Cafu. His driving runs down the flank are very much underappreciated. Taylor plays very flat and seemed programmed to pass the ball either sideways or back.

Now we've got a pre-season victory under our belts I'm really looking forward to the season kicking off on Saturday. We're going to have to go up a gear or three if we want all the points. In Jack We Trust.

Oh and happy for Frank on here. 625 miles for friendly is not only amazing support, it's bloody mental. I hope the beer was nectar.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: ChicagoLion on March 07, 2018, 12:13:02 AM
I thought Hourihane had a very good game, he made a lot of tackles, kept moving the ball quickly and got around the pitch.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 07, 2018, 12:13:38 AM
How Cattermole has carved out a professional football career is quite beyond me. He’d be better use on a building site or delivering pizza.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 07, 2018, 12:52:09 AM
Glenn Whelan has actually done well the last two games and he'll be upset to pick up what appears to be bad calf injury according to Bruce. That said, I am happier that Jedinak will be the likely replacement for the game vs Wolves. Not that you wish injury on your own players but this one ends up working out for us. Good to have the depth.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: PeterWithe on March 07, 2018, 12:54:50 AM
I thought Hourihane had a very good game, he made a lot of tackles, kept moving the ball quickly and got around the pitch.

Not sure I agree, he’s never going to be quick so I’d like to see him work on his strength, he’s easily knocked off the ball and goes backward too often.

If we manage promotion he’s going to need to improve quickly or be shipped out.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 07, 2018, 12:57:44 AM
Shipped out? He's going to score double figures in goals this season. He isn't perfect but I wouldn't just toss out any players who have an eye for goal. He'll be a brilliant squad player, and a really excellent attitude.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: PeterWithe on March 07, 2018, 01:07:28 AM
Probably not the time to discuss after scoring in an easy win but he’s lot a lot of our current players, occasionally looks great at this level but never good enough for the Premier League.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Matt C on March 07, 2018, 04:38:58 AM
‘Another routine win for Aston Villa’ is a sentence I’ll never tire of reading. Job done. Next.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Neil Hawkes on March 07, 2018, 05:06:42 AM
Sod this auto promotion lark, Bruce has declared we’re gunning for the league!
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: paul richard on March 07, 2018, 07:00:34 AM
Sunderland Brexiteers 0 Aston Villa 3. I have no sympathy for them.  They were the poster boys for it.  Their fate is a metaphor for the impending decline of the UK after you know what.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Taylor on March 07, 2018, 07:09:35 AM
Sunderland Brexiteers 0 Aston Villa 3. I have no sympathy for them.  They were the poster boys for it.  Their fate is a metaphor for the impending decline of the UK after you know what.
I fully endorse this statement.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: robbo1874 on March 07, 2018, 07:16:22 AM
I’m gonna say it.
I don’t want to be accused of going overboard or being overly dramatic, but...

Jack is starting to have a look of a young Sid about him.

There, I’ve said it.
I don’t want to be accused of jinxing things... but as long as we look after him he’s hardly likely to be wanting to be catching the next train to Manchester either.

There I’ve said it 😄
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Duncan Shaw on March 07, 2018, 07:27:51 AM
Excellent result.  Can’t believe how tight it is at the top.

28 points out of the last 33 and we're still only third!

Fulham, W11 D3 L0 and still outsiders for top 2.

The critical thing for us is that they beat us during that run.

I actually like the fact Bruce talked about winning the league after the game last night - all we can do is keep winning and heap the pressure on elsewhere.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Ads on March 07, 2018, 07:35:40 AM
I doubt we've ever played quite so sloppily and won so easily.

Hourihane was poor for me. Consistently giving it away,while the wide men were miles off the pace.

Grealish is a class above. Such a quality player.

Also...waey for closing the A1 and diverting to the M6 and closing that as well. You buggers.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: l_mckay on March 07, 2018, 07:40:50 AM
An very important victory before the big game Saturday. Let's hope Leeds can do us a favour tonight.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Dave P on March 07, 2018, 08:21:00 AM
I doubt we've ever played quite so sloppily and won so easily.

Not since the last time we played Sunderland.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: CT on March 07, 2018, 08:25:29 AM
I look at Sunderland and just think "there but for the grace" and all that....

We could have been them very easily.

Really hope Leeds beat Barcelona tonight now!
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: JD on March 07, 2018, 08:26:47 AM
Great easy and routine win. That's what i like to see.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Bad English on March 07, 2018, 08:34:52 AM
I forgot to watch the game. Nothing to do with me going on the lash after a meeting at work, oh no! Thank fuck I only had one lesson at 8am today.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: fbriai on March 07, 2018, 08:57:11 AM
Another good win last night. Let's do Wolves now!
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: mr underhill on March 07, 2018, 09:00:00 AM
fuck me there's a titanic struggle going on here for 2nd - here's hoping Fulham and Cardiff crack . UTV!
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: JUAN PABLO on March 07, 2018, 09:07:07 AM
Two away games and not been at our best but scored 7 goals . I will take that .

Lets keep building the confidence and beat Cardif when we play them , Its all in our court then.

my only gripe ( a small ome ) Taylor . Does he always pass it back to the keeper when there was so many times he can pass the ball forward . The sooner Hutton replaces him the better for the team.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: andyh on March 07, 2018, 09:12:57 AM
fuck me there's a titanic struggle going on here for 2nd - here's hoping Fulham and Cardiff crack . UTV!
I think you'll find that's 1st and 2nd !!!! :-)

Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: mrfuse on March 07, 2018, 09:33:18 AM
Sod this auto promotion lark, Bruce has declared we’re gunning for the league!

Id like to see that confident statement displayed in our football on Saturday. I don't like to sound too negative, but I don't feel we go up against the better teams with that fighting we can take you on talk.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: UK Redsox on March 07, 2018, 09:35:10 AM
Despite how crap Sunderland are, they're still only four points from safety. QPR downwards are probably still in trouble
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: darren woolley on March 07, 2018, 09:40:54 AM
I'm pleased with the three points and another clean sheet Sunderland look doomed Jack played well when he came on happy days.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Brassneck on March 07, 2018, 09:52:49 AM
I'm pleased with the three points and another clean sheet Sunderland look doomed Jack played well when he came on happy days.

Big decision for Bruce on Saturday now. Assuming Jack starts, he has to drop either Grabban or Hogan, neither of whom have done anything wrong. For me, I'd start with Grabban as I think he's more likely to score but in doing so, how much would it knock Hogan's confidence?

Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Smoke on March 07, 2018, 10:10:52 AM
All the love and pity for Sunderland.

Didn't they have a board member on a panel veto a work permit for a promising goal keeper we were trying to sign whilst both clubs were in a relegation battle?

Also while still employing and playing the nonce footballer knowing he was going to plead guilty.

Fuck em.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: cdbearsfan on March 07, 2018, 10:18:41 AM
The fanbase aren't responsible for either of those incidents, and I'm pretty sure that most Sunderland fans dislike their Board. They have basically been a North-East version of Villa for the last eight years. Good luck to them, send the Heathens down. Preferably with some bland, pointless, team like Reading.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: mallo on March 07, 2018, 10:57:30 AM
First half we were a bit slow but did enough, second half because they upped the tempo a bit we reacted quite well, but we really didn't have to do very much. Sunderland was like watching us 2 years ago when a.n. other mediocre Premiership team arrived at Villa Park. I do feel for the fans as they deserve better.

We had quite good seats near the dugout so a few observations from there :
- the away support was immense - the only area of the ground which was full and easily the loudest in the ground
- Taylor plays a little too far forward behind Albert
- Grabban looks really useful, so I would start him ahead of Hogan, which is harsh but he adds a bit more
- Grealish when he came on changed us from being workmanlike to coherant - he really does provide the link between midfield and attack
- Whelan played well and only put 1 pass astray, but Jedinak was immense and Bjarnesson really does provide more movement
- Snodgrass got a comment from Bruce in the second half which I thought a bit odd, but he shouted - Snoddy - you've not had a touch for 5 minutes - sort it out. No-one else got anything.
- The 2 coaches were very involved, especially with the front 2

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Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Chris Jameson on March 07, 2018, 10:59:22 AM
Travelling down to Villa matches over the years I've quite often encountered Sunderland supporters on the train when they've been playing away and they have always seemed a decent bunch.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: SoccerHQ on March 07, 2018, 11:27:38 AM
SOL is a great ground to watch football although I don't like how they've changed the away end seating and put them Newcastle style up in the Gods now. I assume not a great view compared to behind the goal a few years back?

Anyway looking forward to watching Walsall there next season.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: frank on March 07, 2018, 11:56:26 AM
I'm pleased with the three points and another clean sheet Sunderland look doomed Jack played well when he came on happy days.

Big decision for Bruce on Saturday now. Assuming Jack starts, he has to drop either Grabban or Hogan, neither of whom have done anything wrong. For me, I'd start with Grabban as I think he's more likely to score but in doing so, how much would it knock Hogan's confidence?

I'd start with Jack and Grabban. Hogan runs around a lot but hasn't played a decisive role for several games. And why does Johnstone persist in booting the ball upfield to Hogan, who never, never gets his head to the ball, unlike Adomah and Snodgrass, who are also not particularly tall but have better timing.
I was talking to Sunderland fans before the game and they really don't rate Grabban, saying that he was lazy and scored all his goals inside the 6-yard box. Well, if he scores a dozen for us like he did for them I don't mind where they come from!
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Brassneck on March 07, 2018, 12:10:22 PM
I'm pleased with the three points and another clean sheet Sunderland look doomed Jack played well when he came on happy days.

Big decision for Bruce on Saturday now. Assuming Jack starts, he has to drop either Grabban or Hogan, neither of whom have done anything wrong. For me, I'd start with Grabban as I think he's more likely to score but in doing so, how much would it knock Hogan's confidence?

I'd start with Jack and Grabban. Hogan runs around a lot but hasn't played a decisive role for several games. And why does Johnstone persist in booting the ball upfield to Hogan, who never, never gets his head to the ball, unlike Adomah and Snodgrass, who are also not particularly tall but have better timing.
I was talking to Sunderland fans before the game and they really don't rate Grabban, saying that he was lazy and scored all his goals inside the 6-yard box. Well, if he scores a dozen for us like he did for them I don't mind where they come from!

This is more or less where I am. I have a slight reservation about tinkering with the attacking line up that have done so well post Brentford but Grabban has impressed me enough for me to think we'd be better off starting him ahead of Hogan. I really feel for Hogan because he's given everything but does not seem suited to our playing style.

Grabban hasn't appeared lazy to me and although nearly all of his goals have been from inside the 6 yard box, you still have to get yourself in the right place at the right time and there's no denying that Grabban is very good at doing just that.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: chrisw1 on March 07, 2018, 12:37:34 PM
I'd probably start Grabban too.  But don't forget Hogan plays better when Jack is in the team, so I think he will be more effective than he has for the last few games no Jack is fit again.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: remy on March 07, 2018, 12:53:24 PM
Feel sorry for Sunderland, they're were we were 2 years ago. Perhaps a spell in the 3rd tier will see all the rotten apples depart and they start from the ground up again e.g. youth players and hungry players desperate to prove.

I am ecstatic that we won 3-0 away at Sunderland. The QPR postponement cheesed me off and I was afraid we would have lost some momentum gained again after the brilliant Owls win. We've won more games now in a season since the early 90's? 

Frankly, a complete 93rd minutes under siege then breakaway last second deflected off post then hit the keeper own goal that made us win the match, I don't give a F***. We won and that's all that matters. 3 points, that much closer to a return to the top flight. The joy of winning, how the heart sings!

Well done to Bruce and the Villa Boys. I havent been this happy as a Villa fan for a long, long time. I hope they didnt extend themselves too much after the 3rd goal, its a long trip back and we need them fresh for the dingles.

Beat the Wolves and it's not only revenge but panic will set in on the "mind the gap" wankers. (Boycie laugh)
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Hookeysmith on March 07, 2018, 01:06:13 PM
Sunderland Brexiteers 0 Aston Villa 3. I have no sympathy for them.  They were the poster boys for it.  Their fate is a metaphor for the impending decline of the UK after you know what.

Grow up there is a thread all dedicated to that if you want to discuss.

As for the game - I liked the way that for 1st and 2nd goals how many of our players were driving into the box. I was checking the other games on BBC  web site and Cardiff although leading 2-1 conceded 61% possession and Barnsley had 19 attempts to their 11. They were very close to dropping 2 points. I think their luck may change. I also know that last game Colin Wanker had a right go at Grealish for getting a man sent off - so I would expect the plastic faced one to target him for some rough treatment.
They have also just completed a run of 5 on the trot wins - surely they cannot keep it up?
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Singapore Villa on March 07, 2018, 01:26:54 PM
How many made the trip to Sunderland last night?
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Richard E on March 07, 2018, 01:28:30 PM
How many made the trip to Sunderland last night?

Considerably less than Leeds would have taken.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Singapore Villa on March 07, 2018, 01:30:31 PM
How many made the trip to Sunderland last night?

Considerably less than Leeds would have taken.

Expected given the distance...
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: cdbearsfan on March 07, 2018, 01:32:33 PM
Leeds would have taken twenty thousand even if Sunderland were ground-sharing with Spartak Vladivostok.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Hookeysmith on March 07, 2018, 01:36:57 PM
Think I heard 1621
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Damo70 on March 07, 2018, 01:49:14 PM
Think I heard 1621

That sounds like a modern, even more complicated version of the old quiz show 3-2-1.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: brontebilly on March 07, 2018, 01:49:45 PM
I'd probably start Grabban too.  But don't forget Hogan plays better when Jack is in the team, so I think he will be more effective than he has for the last few games no Jack is fit again.

Would play Grabban for Adamoah, harsh call but Grabban is the man in form and seems better suited dropping off the front man. Looks a very handy signing based on his first few games.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Richard E on March 07, 2018, 01:55:06 PM
Think I heard 1621

That sounds like a modern, even more complicated version of the old quiz show 3-2-1.


"It rhymes with tin, you put rubbish in it, this is the prize you definitely don't want to win - that was tonight's star prize, the car!!"
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: postal on March 07, 2018, 02:10:38 PM
Its nice to have the options again  :)

And, yes Grabban, good signing
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 07, 2018, 02:11:13 PM
For me on Saturday it is the side that started vs the rags but Grabban for Hogan and obviously Taylor for McCafu.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: olaftab on March 07, 2018, 02:38:27 PM
Think I heard 1621
Surely you didn't hear all of them?
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Tony Erdington on March 07, 2018, 02:49:32 PM
Think I heard 1621
Surely you didn't hear all of them?

that's not the formation Saturday? but knowing Bruce.
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 07, 2018, 03:28:48 PM
Title: Re: Dead Black Cats 0-3 Aston Villa
Post by: Chris Jameson on March 07, 2018, 07:35:33 PM
Apart from the glimpses of Jack appeared it has to be said that was a depressing 10 minutes of 'highlights', a win's a win though!
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