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Title: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: eamonn on April 24, 2017, 07:55:36 PM
Plenty of people are jesting how funny it would be to send out the youths/Ladies/HongKong7's for next weekend's game so it's time to pin your colours to the mast on this one.

It's not an exercise in seeing how many of us ''stoop to their level of hating them more than you love your own team'', more perhaps an indication that we are mid-table in the second tier with not a lot to play for and people are in need of amusement after another frustrating season.

Or, if you're Brum-based, perhaps it proffers a long-awaited chance to rub Aunt Maureen/the brother-in-law/Tom from IT's face in it after all the slagging they've given you in recent years.

Personally, I've only ever wanted us to lose once, (0-1 defeat to Newcastle when they let ManUre catch them out in '96) but that was letting my hatred of Yanited rule my heart and I felt quite guilty when Les Ferdinand got the winner (a thumping header midway through the second half, I think).

That aberration aside, I don't think I could ever not want us to win, irrespective of the outcome's importance. I guess I might feel different if I was typing this in Erdington and not Elephant & Castle.
As well as that though, I'd rather have the chance to do the double over them next season than not and then leave them for dust as we get promoted.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandry
Post by: curiousorange on April 24, 2017, 07:57:03 PM
I don't hope we lose, but I wouldn't feel too bad about it.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandry
Post by: LukeJames on April 24, 2017, 08:10:49 PM
i'll miss the derby if it goes and I can't really bring myself to wanting us to lose, at the same time the thought of them checking their phones, radio's etc hoping to see a villa goal and then doing a fist bump is hilarious.

On the other hand what other club would put together a relegation party, marches, coffins, the works to celebrate their neighbours relegation, and then go and get themselves relegated themselves a year later? Only those daft fuckers!

Also it hasn't been mentioned when we were chasing 4th in O'Learys first season and they were playing Liverpool at home who were up there with us and they lost 0-3 while celebrating the Liverpool goals, karmas a bitch girls.

So on reflection, I haven't got a fucking clue.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandry
Post by: QuintonVilla on April 24, 2017, 08:15:09 PM
Lose. If we win and help those trampy bastards stay up I won't be happy. We've lost hundreds of games over the past few years, we've been spanked 4-0 in the cup final, another loss here makes no odds to us.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandry
Post by: Clampy on April 24, 2017, 08:18:29 PM
I want us to win as always. Besides, it would be much funnier if they fucked it up for themselves.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandry
Post by: Dave on April 24, 2017, 08:21:40 PM
I don't hope we lose, but I wouldn't feel too bad about it.

Indeed. As long as one side wins, then you're evening isn't going to be spoiled.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandry
Post by: myf on April 24, 2017, 08:24:39 PM
Don't stoop to their level. Go out and give Blackburn a kicking and show some class.

I also know decent blosers who I feel a bit sorry for ( they do actually exist).
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandry
Post by: Hookeysmith on April 24, 2017, 08:25:39 PM
I want us to win as always. Besides, it would be much funnier if they fucked it up for themselves.

I actually think this is the best way. Draw on sat whilst they lose then sit back and watch bristol stuff em

I have learned over the years the more they are treated as an irrelevance to us the more it winds them up
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandry
Post by: DeKuip on April 24, 2017, 08:31:31 PM
I hope we win our last two games, couldn't care less about Small Heath.

They can't get relegated on Saturday anyway so how daft would Villa fans look celebrating a defeat then Small Heath keep themselves up the following week.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandry
Post by: German James on April 24, 2017, 08:37:41 PM
I couldn't give a tu'penny fuck if Birmingham City get relegated, win the Champions' League or become a hockey team! Come on you Villa boys!
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandry
Post by: nigel on April 24, 2017, 08:48:06 PM
I want us to win as always. Besides, it would be much funnier if they fucked it up for themselves.

Yes, the ideal scenario.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandry
Post by: brontebilly on April 24, 2017, 08:59:21 PM
I think for AVFC supporters outside Birmingham, City are an irrelevance

How many years in our respective histories have both clubs even been in the same division?

Surely should be the cross city equivalent of a Leyton Orient, Tranmere or even Partick Thistle?

Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: Ad@m on April 24, 2017, 10:02:29 PM
I'm not sure which will wind them up more, getting relegated or knowing they have us to thank for them not going down!
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: peter w on April 24, 2017, 10:07:56 PM
It's getting relegated. So fuck them. ideally we win and so do Huddersfield and then Bristol City win and so do Blackburn. But if we do lose. I'll be disappointed but, you know, Blackburn are a grand old club and it'd be a shame to see one of the founding teams in the 3rd tier. No, really.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: olaftab on April 24, 2017, 10:11:11 PM
There is no quandary. We have to win on Saturday.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: Deano's Mullet on April 24, 2017, 10:29:37 PM
I want us to win.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: TaxDodger on April 24, 2017, 10:42:44 PM
For the first time in my Villa supporting life I want us to lose. I don't even hate Blues that much, I just think it would be the funniest thing since England losing to Iceland if they went down to the third tier, and I'd be happy to sacrifice a few positions in the Championship for that to occur.

Having said that, I'm not sure I can bring myself to want our players to play badly and make mistakes, so watching this in the away end is going to be odd. Obviously the best possible scenario would be us winning, Blackburn beating Brentford and Blues losing both games, but that's unlikely.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: SoccerHQ on April 24, 2017, 10:43:09 PM
Well over the past 6 years I've wanted us to win pretty much every game and it feels like we've won about 10 of them (o.k maybe 20).

The cup final I wanted us to win, the Bradford semi, anytine we've played Man. United, WBA, Spurs etc.

We've lost so many games in recent years I fail to see how losing a game when we're in mid table, can't really move up much with a win is going to hurt much.

I'd also question how much different it would make given we've won 9 of our last 12 and half this forum wants the manager sacked.

To cut it short it would be a shrug of the shoulders and then a chuckle at SHA sweating for another week.

Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: Brend'Watkins on April 24, 2017, 10:50:03 PM
Win and win well preferably.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 25, 2017, 12:08:37 AM
I want us to stick 10 past them. I'll leave caring more about another club than I do my own to those tramps. 
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: tomd2103 on April 25, 2017, 12:10:53 AM
Nothing would please me more than seeing Blues go down under Redknapp (well maybe if Paul Tait took them down as manager), but we are bigger and better than even talking about wanting to lose at Blackburn.  Leave that type of small time mentality to the likes of Blues, Albion and Coventry.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: cdbearsfan on April 25, 2017, 12:18:34 AM
I want us to stick 10 past them. I'll leave caring more about another club than I do my own to those tramps.

I still care more about my own club than any other, I just don't care about this match. Therefore, if we lose and it causes relegation for a bunch of ****** who hate us then I won't care.

Given that the season is over, you can make an argument that we should be trying one or two younger/fringe players, anyway. See if any look like they could make a useful impact for us next season.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 25, 2017, 12:25:16 AM
I'd rather any kids that come in have a blinder and we score 10. If we win and they still go down we can take the piss. If they stay up because we beat Blackburn it will hurt them in a much longer lasting way. All summer it will be there, knowing the only reason they aren't in division 3 again is because of the club they obsess about and hate.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: Pete3206 on April 25, 2017, 12:25:21 AM
Quandary? Villa to win is the only option I'd be interested in.

Small Heath's capitulation is a side show. Nothing more.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on April 25, 2017, 12:28:17 AM
I want us to beat blackburn, them to lose to Huddersfield then get a point away at Bristol only to witness blackburn score a last minute winner at Brentford meaning they go down on goal difference.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: OzVilla on April 25, 2017, 12:39:06 AM
I actually don't care about this game as any of the possible result has its merits.  I'll just let fate decide and be happy whatever the outcome.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: eamonn on April 25, 2017, 12:41:10 AM
34-35-31...Tightest poll since Owls v Gibbons v Brexit.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: cdbearsfan on April 25, 2017, 12:44:53 AM
I'd rather any kids that come in have a blinder and we score 10. If we win and they still go down we can take the piss. If they stay up because we beat Blackburn it will hurt them in a much longer lasting way. All summer it will be there, knowing the only reason they aren't in division 3 again is because of the club they obsess about and hate.

Which will be of no consolation whatsoever if we are in the same division, possibly even losing to them, next season.

Obviously I want us to win and for them to go down. I don't see it as too likely though given that would leave Blackburn needing to win their final game, away against a decent Brentford side.

If we lose and Small Heath go down by fewer than three points, I'll certainly see an hilarious upside to our defeat.

Hate playing them, and feel that our prestige suffers more from not being at least one division higher than them at any stage than it would from losing an end-of-season, meaningless kickabout in an already mediocre season.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: pooligan on April 25, 2017, 02:08:49 AM
Our away record is so piss poor  that i don't think we will have to  hope we play poor and lose ,we will scrape a draw like at Burton or lose
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on April 25, 2017, 04:06:45 AM
I always want us to win. This is one instance where losing would suck less, funny even, but I still like to see us win. I think we will as well. Its Blackburn, we beat Blackburn, its like the 5th law of thermodynamics or something. It just happens.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: robbo1874 on April 25, 2017, 05:17:30 AM
If we beat Blackburn and that result saves their sorry arses, then at least we've got that over them.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on April 25, 2017, 06:23:54 AM
Don't stoop to their level. Go out and give Blackburn a kicking and show some class.

I also know decent blosers who I feel a bit sorry for ( they do actually exist).

This is a little bit me. I hate the bastards but I have mates who'd be devastated
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: Malandro on April 25, 2017, 07:14:56 AM
We love you Rovers, we do.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: Villa Lew on April 25, 2017, 08:22:53 AM
Villa to win and Blues to stay up, I want us, Blues, Albion and Wolves all in the Prem. Baggies apart West Midlands football is considered a joke by the rest of the country.

I just can't understand any Villa fan wanting us to lose a match, whatever the circumstances are.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: ASHTONVILLA on April 25, 2017, 08:24:09 AM
I'd like us to win, but there again I would be quite chuffed if us losing put them in the relegation places.

Can't lose really, unless they beat Huddersfield of course in which case I would be pretty annoyed at us losing.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on April 25, 2017, 08:39:30 AM
Should be a very relaxing match for us really. Can enjoy it whatever the result  :D

Bet 2 minutes in a Blackburn player will put a nasty tackle in and we'll be screaming for a Villa win for the rest of the match.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: aj2k77 on April 25, 2017, 09:01:03 AM
Don't stoop to their level. Go out and give Blackburn a kicking and show some class.

I also know decent blosers who I feel a bit sorry for ( they do actually exist).

This is a little bit me. I hate the bastards but I have mates who'd be devastated

They'll get over it. Bye bye Rags.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: PaulTheVillan on April 25, 2017, 09:07:44 AM
Don't stoop to their level. Go out and give Blackburn a kicking and show some class.

I also know decent blosers who I feel a bit sorry for ( they do actually exist).

This is a little bit me. I hate the bastards but I have mates who'd be devastated

Most of my blues mate seem to have given up and have lost all passion for it.

I'd be happy if they went down, just because they'd be over the moon if we were in their situation.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: wittonwarrior on April 25, 2017, 09:08:13 AM
Think it is academic.  Think the shit will stay up with their own results. 

I am a saddo live for the Villa like a  lot of people, but I wouldn't cry my heart out if we lost on Saturday.  The positive side is if Blackburn do go down we have at least an easy 4 points next season.

It would be wrong  for Villa though  to sit on the beach saturday.  If I and 7000 plus fans can  be arsed to go to Blackburn then at least the team should turn up.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: Clampy on April 25, 2017, 09:12:20 AM
If Huddersfield win tonight, then they might take their foot off the gas anyway, unless they want 3rd place.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: Tony Erdington on April 25, 2017, 10:09:35 AM
Don't stoop to their level. Go out and give Blackburn a kicking and show some class.

I also know decent blosers who I feel a bit sorry for ( they do actually exist).

This is a little bit me. I hate the bastards but I have mates who'd be devastated


oxymoron surely. sotc
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: Jimbo on April 25, 2017, 10:12:12 AM
The way I look at it is we can't lose either way. If we win, we win. If we lose, we win. If we draw we don't lose. Let Villa be Villa, let nature take its course, and fuck the fuckers.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on April 25, 2017, 10:13:10 AM
I want us to win, and naturally assumed all comments to the contrary have been made in jest.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on April 25, 2017, 10:16:12 AM
Think it is academic.  Think the shit will stay up with their own results. 

I am a saddo live for the Villa like a  lot of people, but I wouldn't cry my heart out if we lost on Saturday.  The positive side is if Blackburn do go down we have at least an easy 4 points next season.

It would be wrong  for Villa though  to sit on the beach saturday.  If I and 7000 plus fans can  be arsed to go to Blackburn then at least the team should turn up.

I will miss Blackburn, Wigan etc. as they are on our doorstep (here on Merseyside) , and are generally a good day out with big allocations for the Villa fans.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: QuintonVilla on April 25, 2017, 10:19:35 AM
Think it is academic.  Think the shit will stay up with their own results. 

I am a saddo live for the Villa like a  lot of people, but I wouldn't cry my heart out if we lost on Saturday.  The positive side is if Blackburn do go down we have at least an easy 4 points next season.

It would be wrong  for Villa though  to sit on the beach saturday.  If I and 7000 plus fans can  be arsed to go to Blackburn then at least the team should turn up.

I will miss Blackburn, Wigan etc. as they are on our doorstep (here on Merseyside) , and are generally a good day out with big allocations for the Villa fans.
We are losing some good away days, Brighton, Wigan, potentially Blackburn and Fulham. Replaced by Sunderland, Boro and potentially Hull. Boring. Can't wait for Sunderland away on Tuesday 19th December.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: darren woolley on April 25, 2017, 10:28:07 AM
I don't care about Small Heath I just want to see Villa win as always.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on April 25, 2017, 10:31:35 AM
Think it is academic.  Think the shit will stay up with their own results. 

I am a saddo live for the Villa like a  lot of people, but I wouldn't cry my heart out if we lost on Saturday.  The positive side is if Blackburn do go down we have at least an easy 4 points next season.

It would be wrong  for Villa though  to sit on the beach saturday.  If I and 7000 plus fans can  be arsed to go to Blackburn then at least the team should turn up.

I will miss Blackburn, Wigan etc. as they are on our doorstep (here on Merseyside) , and are generally a good day out with big allocations for the Villa fans.
We are losing some good away days, Brighton, Wigan, potentially Blackburn and Fulham. Replaced by Sunderland, Boro and potentially Hull. Boring. Can't wait for Sunderland away on Tuesday 19th December.

Hi QV - have you revised your thoughts on the tickets for Saturday? Will we shift 1000 in 4 days? Cheers VCTM

While talking of Quinton - I was in a job interview on Merseyside recently and the Executive Director was from Brum - I asked where about  she was from?
"you have  probably never of heard of it"
"I am sure I will have" was my response,
"Quinton" she said
Me - " I used to live in Bournville and Weoley Castle"
"So what " she said !!!!

Good job I didn't ask her if she used to go to the brothel on the hill!!!!
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: cdbearsfan on April 25, 2017, 10:41:07 AM
Sounds like a friendly interviewer!
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: richtheholtender on April 25, 2017, 10:54:31 AM
Send them down. We are always in the no win situation when playing them due to being expected to win. Thinking of next season, derbies are a bit of a leveller so I would rather replace them with a team that wont have extra incentive when we are on our title push.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on April 25, 2017, 11:00:18 AM
Sounds like a friendly interviewer!

Didn`t get the job !!!

My interview technique seems to  be as successful as our attacking options !
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: QuintonVilla on April 25, 2017, 11:06:28 AM
Think it is academic.  Think the shit will stay up with their own results. 

I am a saddo live for the Villa like a  lot of people, but I wouldn't cry my heart out if we lost on Saturday.  The positive side is if Blackburn do go down we have at least an easy 4 points next season.

It would be wrong  for Villa though  to sit on the beach saturday.  If I and 7000 plus fans can  be arsed to go to Blackburn then at least the team should turn up.

I will miss Blackburn, Wigan etc. as they are on our doorstep (here on Merseyside) , and are generally a good day out with big allocations for the Villa fans.
We are losing some good away days, Brighton, Wigan, potentially Blackburn and Fulham. Replaced by Sunderland, Boro and potentially Hull. Boring. Can't wait for Sunderland away on Tuesday 19th December.

Hi QV - have you revised your thoughts on the tickets for Saturday? Will we shift 1000 in 4 days? Cheers VCTM

While talking of Quinton - I was in a job interview on Merseyside recently and the Executive Director was from Brum - I asked where about  she was from?
"you have  probably never of heard of it"
"I am sure I will have" was my response,
"Quinton" she said
Me - " I used to live in Bournville and Weoley Castle"
"So what " she said !!!!

Good job I didn't ask her if she used to go to the brothel on the hill!!!!
I think we'll end up with about 6400 there and have about 500 unsold.

Lovely woman!
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: PaulTheVillan on April 25, 2017, 11:31:33 AM
Think it is academic.  Think the shit will stay up with their own results. 

I am a saddo live for the Villa like a  lot of people, but I wouldn't cry my heart out if we lost on Saturday.  The positive side is if Blackburn do go down we have at least an easy 4 points next season.

It would be wrong  for Villa though  to sit on the beach saturday.  If I and 7000 plus fans can  be arsed to go to Blackburn then at least the team should turn up.

I will miss Blackburn, Wigan etc. as they are on our doorstep (here on Merseyside) , and are generally a good day out with big allocations for the Villa fans.
We are losing some good away days, Brighton, Wigan, potentially Blackburn and Fulham. Replaced by Sunderland, Boro and potentially Hull. Boring. Can't wait for Sunderland away on Tuesday 19th December.

Hi QV - have you revised your thoughts on the tickets for Saturday? Will we shift 1000 in 4 days? Cheers VCTM

While talking of Quinton - I was in a job interview on Merseyside recently and the Executive Director was from Brum - I asked where about  she was from?
"you have  probably never of heard of it"
"I am sure I will have" was my response,
"Quinton" she said
Me - " I used to live in Bournville and Weoley Castle"
"So what " she said !!!!

Good job I didn't ask her if she used to go to the brothel on the hill!!!!


Ha. My ex went there. Explains a lot
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: paul richard on April 25, 2017, 11:36:56 AM
Can't believe all this talk about wanting us to lose or allowing us to lose.  It's not ok.  I couldn't care less about Small Heath.  I just want us to win on Saturday, and win well. 
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on April 25, 2017, 12:07:41 PM
Not an ideal situation but if we can help ruin Blues fans' season, I'll take it.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: London Villan on April 25, 2017, 12:10:51 PM
The Bluenoses I know make me smile... when they got relegated to the Championship it was all "it's a proper league", "real football" "don't want to be in the Premier League"  now it's "hope we go down because of Zola" "real football in League 1" etc...
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: cheltenhamlion on April 25, 2017, 12:17:42 PM
Think it is academic.  Think the shit will stay up with their own results. 

I am a saddo live for the Villa like a  lot of people, but I wouldn't cry my heart out if we lost on Saturday.  The positive side is if Blackburn do go down we have at least an easy 4 points next season.

It would be wrong  for Villa though  to sit on the beach saturday.  If I and 7000 plus fans can  be arsed to go to Blackburn then at least the team should turn up.

I will miss Blackburn, Wigan etc. as they are on our doorstep (here on Merseyside) , and are generally a good day out with big allocations for the Villa fans.
We are losing some good away days, Brighton, Wigan, potentially Blackburn and Fulham. Replaced by Sunderland, Boro and potentially Hull. Boring. Can't wait for Sunderland away on Tuesday 19th December.

Hi QV - have you revised your thoughts on the tickets for Saturday? Will we shift 1000 in 4 days? Cheers VCTM

While talking of Quinton - I was in a job interview on Merseyside recently and the Executive Director was from Brum - I asked where about  she was from?
"you have  probably never of heard of it"
"I am sure I will have" was my response,
"Quinton" she said
Me - " I used to live in Bournville and Weoley Castle"
"So what " she said !!!!

Good job I didn't ask her if she used to go to the brothel on the hill!!!!


Ha. My ex went there. Explains a lot

My wife went to that school.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: aj2k77 on April 25, 2017, 12:48:11 PM
The Bluenoses I know make me smile... when they got relegated to the Championship it was all "it's a proper league", "real football" "don't want to be in the Premier League"  now it's "hope we go down because of Zola" "real football in League 1" etc...

I sincerely hope that their quest for the realest of all football leads them to the Conference.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: willenhall villa on April 25, 2017, 12:59:16 PM
I hope we beat both Blackburn and Brighton. Let's finish the season strongly and get ready for a busy summer. If Blose go down, let it be because they are shit on there own occurred.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: Richie on April 25, 2017, 01:41:03 PM
The way the Blues season has unfolded is beyond belief.

In October, they were saying they were going to make the play offs
Come February, they were saying the play offs were gone but at least they are going to finish above us
Come the end of April, 14 points behind us and in real danger of going down.

I'm going Saturday and as always, want to see us win. Knowing they will be cheering if we win is more than enough for me.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandry
Post by: Villa in Denmark on April 25, 2017, 02:55:35 PM
I want us to win as always. Besides, it would be much funnier if they fucked it up for themselves.

I actually think this is the best way. Draw on sat whilst they lose then sit back and watch bristol stuff em

I have learned over the years the more they are treated as an irrelevance to us the more it winds them up


Agreed.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: PaulTheVillan on April 25, 2017, 03:07:06 PM
Think it is academic.  Think the shit will stay up with their own results. 

I am a saddo live for the Villa like a  lot of people, but I wouldn't cry my heart out if we lost on Saturday.  The positive side is if Blackburn do go down we have at least an easy 4 points next season.

It would be wrong  for Villa though  to sit on the beach saturday.  If I and 7000 plus fans can  be arsed to go to Blackburn then at least the team should turn up.

I will miss Blackburn, Wigan etc. as they are on our doorstep (here on Merseyside) , and are generally a good day out with big allocations for the Villa fans.
We are losing some good away days, Brighton, Wigan, potentially Blackburn and Fulham. Replaced by Sunderland, Boro and potentially Hull. Boring. Can't wait for Sunderland away on Tuesday 19th December.

Hi QV - have you revised your thoughts on the tickets for Saturday? Will we shift 1000 in 4 days? Cheers VCTM

While talking of Quinton - I was in a job interview on Merseyside recently and the Executive Director was from Brum - I asked where about  she was from?
"you have  probably never of heard of it"
"I am sure I will have" was my response,
"Quinton" she said
Me - " I used to live in Bournville and Weoley Castle"
"So what " she said !!!!

Good job I didn't ask her if she used to go to the brothel on the hill!!!!


Ha. My ex went there. Explains a lot

My wife went to that school.

Could be the same person ;)
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: chrisw1 on April 25, 2017, 04:03:14 PM
I'd prefer us to win, particularly if we can pull off a quality performance. 

But I would like to see them go down.  I don't really enjoy the derby, they have a real nasty element to their support and a real atmosphere of menace.  A derby is also more of a lottery than a standard game against a team of their status.  And yes, I'd like to remind the ****** with the coffin that karma is alive and kicking.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: somec on April 25, 2017, 05:45:41 PM
status.  And yes, I'd like to remind the c***s with the coffin that karma is alive and kicking.

I think the perpetual shiteness of Blues is proof that Karma exists. If the majority of their support didn't wish ill on their local rivals above supporting their team then maybe they wouldn't be quite so shite.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: john2710 on April 25, 2017, 06:08:42 PM
Part of me wants us to lose, but that's sinking to their level.
They are quite capable of making a complete fuck up of things without our help.
Much prefer we win, they lose both games & Blackburn win at Brentford.

It would be soooo funny if their new dawn, with their new owners, ended up in relegation, rather than the world domination they were promised.

Of course if they do manage to stay up, world domination is back on with Harry.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: Ad@m on April 25, 2017, 06:15:16 PM
It would be soooo funny if their new dawn, with their new owners, ended up in relegation, rather than the world domination they were promised.

A bit like ours you mean?! ;)
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: Broughty-Villian on April 25, 2017, 06:16:07 PM
I want us to win as always. Besides, it would be much funnier if they fucked it up for themselves.
I don't care about Small Heath I just want to see Villa win as always.


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Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: john2710 on April 25, 2017, 06:17:57 PM
It would be soooo funny if their new dawn, with their new owners, ended up in relegation, rather than the world domination they were promised.

A bit like ours you mean?! ;)

Yeah, but we don't believe it!
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on April 25, 2017, 08:33:23 PM
I see us being so shit that it doesn't matter what we think, we'll lose anyway.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: john e on April 25, 2017, 09:02:53 PM
the players wont think the same as the fans,
you saw on Sunday it was a normal run of the mill game to them until Gabby came on and ran a bit fast and kicked the ball into touch that was all that was needed to get the fans going it had been that bad up till then

the players wont go out to throw a match no matter what we think, they are players not fans,
they will go out and do what they have done every week so far this season, to be honest it might look as though we are trying to throw the game but experience tells us that that's just standard play for us
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: johnboy on April 25, 2017, 09:31:01 PM
I would always want us to win, l also hope blues stay up so we can beat them and finish above them again
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: SoccerHQ on April 25, 2017, 09:59:20 PM
I'd prefer us to win, particularly if we can pull off a quality performance. 

But I would like to see them go down.  I don't really enjoy the derby, they have a real nasty element to their support and a real atmosphere of menace.  A derby is also more of a lottery than a standard game against a team of their status.  And yes, I'd like to remind the c***s with the coffin that karma is alive and kicking.

It would be typical Villa if Saturday is the game where it all clicks and we finally hammer someone and beat Blackburn 4-0.

All I'd think from that is couldn't we have actually done that when it actually mattered instead of drawing endless games 1-1 and losing meekly 1-0 as has seemed the standard for half the year.

Regardless to me the season is over now.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on April 25, 2017, 10:02:54 PM
I would always want us to win, l also hope blues stay up so we can beat them and finish above them again

I'd rather not play them and finish 48 places above them next season.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: joe_c on April 26, 2017, 12:57:35 AM
With Newcastle and Brighton on their way up, if Small Heath go the opposite way, it'll be another inconvenient away trip I won't have to make next season.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: DB on April 26, 2017, 08:30:40 AM
With Newcastle and Brighton on their way up, if Small Heath go the opposite way, it'll be another inconvenient away trip I won't have to make next season.

Likely to be replaced by Sunderland and Boro.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: joe_c on April 26, 2017, 12:14:08 PM
With Newcastle and Brighton on their way up, if Small Heath go the opposite way, it'll be another inconvenient away trip I won't have to make next season.

Likely to be replaced by Sunderland and Boro.

And one of Swansea, Hull or Burnley, all of which are more inviting destinations than St Andrews.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: amfy on April 26, 2017, 01:29:17 PM
Having thought about this for a few days, I'd miss them. It's been a while since Villa have felt as much fun as this week so far. I've realised that I laugh much more when we play them than when we don't.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: PaulWinch again on April 26, 2017, 01:33:03 PM
Couldn't care a less. Blues are good opponents for us, we regularly beat them.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on April 26, 2017, 01:33:16 PM
I miss the Blues of my youth, milling around in the 3rd tier with about 12 fans watching them.

Granted, they still have 12 fans now...
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on April 26, 2017, 01:46:32 PM
I miss the Blues of my youth, milling around in the 3rd tier with about 12 fans watching them.

Granted, they still have 12 fans now...

Give it a fortnight...
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: Ad@m on April 26, 2017, 08:38:26 PM
I miss the Blues of my youth, milling around in the 3rd tier with about 12 fans watching them.

Granted, they still have 12 fans now...

Me too.  Granted, having them in the same division guarantees us points (isn't it 10 matches now we're unbeaten against them?) having them in the same division also brings home just how far the Villa have fallen.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: peter w on April 27, 2017, 11:00:36 AM
I'm sure their forum is full of them bleating that they'd rather go down than ever want Da Vile to win. Well, I sincerely hope that we can assist you.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: Risso on April 27, 2017, 11:06:50 AM
I'm sure their forum is full of them bleating that they'd rather go down than ever want Da Vile to win. Well, I sincerely hope that we can assist you.

Do they have any semi-decent forums?  Which are the biggest, might be fun for a couple of minutes to have a nose about.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: peter w on April 27, 2017, 11:12:01 AM
No idea. They've got Small Heath Alliance but I'd rather stand in a vat of cold sick up to my neck with both arms fully inserted into the anuses of the rotting corpses of dead sheep then spend time visiting their site(s).
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: saunders_heroes on April 27, 2017, 11:39:37 AM
No idea. They've got Small Heath Alliance but I'd rather stand in a vat of cold sick up to my neck with both arms fully inserted into the anuses of the rotting corpses of dead sheep then spend time visiting their site(s).

They're not very happy about Xia "grassing up" Robinson over there. (Chortle)
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: Neil Hawkes on April 27, 2017, 11:40:58 AM
No idea. They've got Small Heath Alliance but I'd rather stand in a vat of cold sick up to my neck with both arms fully inserted into the anuses of the rotting corpses of dead sheep then spend time visiting their site(s).
So let's get this straight - you're going to put yourself through all that palaver and THEN visit their sites?
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: saunders_heroes on April 27, 2017, 12:01:59 PM
It's worth looking at SHA just to see how excited they are about finally getting a "TOTALLY SOLD OUT" home fixture (tenner for adults, kids for a quid). A massive 29k will be there apparently. Bless 'em.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: Meanwood Villa on April 27, 2017, 12:10:20 PM
Small Heath Alliance is well worth a look, particularly after we've just beaten them. Having said which, you can guarantee at least one thread on the front page will be about us at any given time. The levels of delusion on there are truly staggering, see the multiple threads about being in our end or turning up without a ticket and being let in. It also provides multiple examples of the Blues mentality, that strange thing where they say they love being shit as some sort of badge of honour. They don't of course, they're like all other fans in the world who want their team to win but they can't admit it. That's what 140 years in the shadows does I guess.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: KevinGage on April 27, 2017, 12:44:53 PM
Some perfectly rational responses on here.

And yet. And yet.

For just about the first time in my adult life, I won't mind if we lose.  I won't be heartbroken if we win, either.  But another loss in this forgettable season won't push me over the edge. 

Whereas if the tramps hang around for another season - and are actually vaguely competent next year (don't laugh, look at Olbiyun. We live in weird times) a doomsday scenario could see them derail our promotion bid.  It's the type of thing they live for.

Quite a few what ifs in that granted, but them going down removes the scenario. Far easier to patronise them and and wish them luck in League One. Or the Vanarama Bananarama Serie A, ideally.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 27, 2017, 02:02:07 PM
It's worth looking at SHA just to see how excited they are about finally getting a "TOTALLY SOLD OUT" home fixture (tenner for adults, kids for a quid). A massive 29k will be there apparently. Bless 'em.

Do they remember to say that the most expensive ticket in the ground is £10?
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: Brend'Watkins on April 27, 2017, 02:34:44 PM
I bet it will be 28,500 or something with scores of seats covered in coloured netting for whatever reason.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: class-of-82 on April 27, 2017, 04:12:33 PM
So there will be about 18,500 walking round small Heath asking a copper "where's the ground"
The copper will reply "follow the crowd"
Asda on small Heath island is going to be rammed that day
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: peter w on April 28, 2017, 08:42:04 PM
No idea. They've got Small Heath Alliance but I'd rather stand in a vat of cold sick up to my neck with both arms fully inserted into the anuses of the rotting corpses of dead sheep then spend time visiting their site(s).
So let's get this straight - you're going to put yourself through all that palaver and THEN visit their sites?

That's the only way I'd feel clean over there.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
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Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: villan from luton on April 29, 2017, 12:57:08 AM
That is funny but I would never want my beloved club to lose, even if it affects our less able neighbours. They will never be bigger than us, am getting worried that some want the same things as them. We shouldn't be aiming for Small Heath, we need to be looking  far further than that
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: tomd2103 on April 29, 2017, 01:28:36 AM
That is funny but I would never want my beloved club to lose, even if it affects our less able neighbours. They will never be bigger than us, am getting worried that some want the same things as them. We shouldn't be aiming for Small Heath, we need to be looking  far further than that

We don't need to.  We beat Blackburn, they lose to Huddersfield and it's down to the last day.  They lose or draw and Blackburn win then they are down on goal difference.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: QuintonVilla on April 29, 2017, 08:10:14 AM
Come on Rovers!
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: Clampy on April 29, 2017, 08:35:30 AM
I hope we murder them personally and Blues lose their game.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: Ad@m on April 29, 2017, 03:19:45 PM
If I was a Blackburn fan I wouldn't be too chuffed with Huddersfield making 10 (ten) changes for today's game!
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: eamonn on April 29, 2017, 04:58:14 PM
We look a bit stupid now.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: Richard on April 29, 2017, 05:12:39 PM
Why do we ? Blues go down next weekend if the other two win and they dont so it's pretty much as you were.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: saunders_heroes on April 29, 2017, 05:14:35 PM
We look a bit stupid now.

Yawn.
2 points off relegation with a game to go. Stranger things have happened you know.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: aj2k77 on April 29, 2017, 05:16:10 PM
If Blackburn had drawn today they would have been relegated. Forest and Blackburn to win next weekend.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: QuintonVilla on April 29, 2017, 05:20:45 PM
Small Heath will go down on goal difference. Nailed on.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: nodge on April 29, 2017, 05:41:32 PM
I doubt it, Bristol City will play their under 11 girls team too as they've got nothing riding on it just like  Huddersfield today.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: TonyD on April 29, 2017, 05:48:00 PM
I doubt it, Bristol City will play their under 11 girls team too as they've got nothing riding on it just like  Huddersfield today.
Bristol City under 11 girls team would have mullered us today.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 29, 2017, 05:48:16 PM
It would need a fair sized goal swing but Bristol City could still drop so I doubt they'll take piss with their starting 11. That's assuming they lose to Brighton. But a 3 or 4 goal defeat today will definitely have them nervous.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: Risso on April 29, 2017, 09:32:21 PM
Huddersfield are a set of tossers.  Resting the odd player before a cup game, fair enough, but to change 10?  Hope they get obliterated in the play offs.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: Louzie0 on April 29, 2017, 09:43:40 PM
Huddersfield?????
Come on. What are you doing, even mentioning them?
Why on earth should I give a F about Huddersfield?
I despair.

We should always play to win.
No crap about cheering for the other side or wearing their bloody shirts.
I don't care what any other team does. Just Villa to win.
God knows that's been difficult enough this season.





Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: saunders_heroes on April 29, 2017, 11:11:25 PM
Let's hope Dean Smith plays his kids against Blackburn next week. What goes around comes around and all that.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: Brend'Watkins on April 29, 2017, 11:20:48 PM
I'd be much happier if Dean Smith rolled up at Bodymoor Heath next week in all honesty.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: amfy on April 30, 2017, 12:14:49 AM
I can remember something similar happening with Southampton & Prtsmouth when one of them was playing Albion and the other being relegated. Honestly, no-one was throwing their hands up in horror at how 'small time' it was. People found it funny.

Sometimes we need to remember that we do this for fun, our lives and honour don't actually depend on it.

There were times today when I felt certain chants went to far in the 'supporting the opposition' stakes, but I was quite happy to have a bit of fun with it as there was nothing on it for us.

The thing that actually pissed me off, was as others have said, was the people who were most vociferous in their 'support' of Blackburn, were the same people who became most vociferous in their slamming of Villa once Blues started winning. If we wanted to mess Blues up, then by losing today we still prevented them from becoming safe today - so job done. That was either what you wanted or it wasn't.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: eamonn on April 30, 2017, 12:25:04 AM
FFS, Brighton messing-up means, what? We have to hope they beat us next week to stop Newcastle, the team we hate most after Blose, from winning the title? Where will this madness end?
#I don't care about Blose, Barcodes don't care about me, all I care about is AVFC
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: Clampy on April 30, 2017, 07:34:52 AM


The thing that actually pissed me off, was as others have said, was the people who were most vociferous in their 'support' of Blackburn, were the same people who became most vociferous in their slamming of Villa once Blues started winning. If we wanted to mess Blues up, then by losing today we still prevented them from becoming safe today - so job done. That was either what you wanted or it wasn't.

I wasnt there yesterday but a mate text me and said the same thing. People cheering when we went a goal behind but booing at the end.

I saw a picture of one chap wearing a Blackburn shirt with Zola on the back. Banter or obssessed as they are?
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: VillaAlways on April 30, 2017, 07:49:01 AM
Huddersfield are a set of tossers.  Resting the odd player before a cup game, fair enough, but to change 10?  Hope they get obliterated in the play offs.
I thought teams obliged to play more or less their strongest side if availableWeren't Wolves fined for making too many changes a few years back. It's unlikely that there strongest side would have lost to a shit Blues team playing with 10 men for most of the match
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: QuintonVilla on April 30, 2017, 08:15:14 AM
Huddersfield will get fined heavily for yesterday, can imagine Blackburn fans will hate them for eternity aswell if they go down. I hope Huddersfield get smashed in the play offs now.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: Mister E on April 30, 2017, 08:18:11 AM
Huddersfield?????
Come on. What are you doing, even mentioning them?
Why on earth should I give a F about Huddersfield?
I despair.

We should always play to win.
No crap about cheering for the other side or wearing their bloody shirts.
I don't care what any other team does. Just Villa to win.
God knows that's been difficult enough this season.






My feeling exactly, Lou.
Having said that, I don't live in the Mids so get less local heat (Leeds fans are my problem!)
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: nigel on April 30, 2017, 09:22:50 AM
FFS, Brighton messing-up means, what? We have to hope they beat us next week to stop Newcastle, the team we hate most after Blose, from winning the title? Where will this madness end?
#I don't care about Blose, Barcodes don't care about me, all I care about is AVFC

Really?
I think the dislike is all one way traffic from their end.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: SoccerHQ on April 30, 2017, 11:46:35 AM
Huddersfield will get fined heavily for yesterday, can imagine Blackburn fans will hate them for eternity aswell if they go down. I hope Huddersfield get smashed in the play offs now.

Huddersfield scored a 95th minute equaliser at home to Blackburn aswell this season!
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: Ad@m on May 01, 2017, 01:46:42 PM
FFS, Brighton messing-up means, what? We have to hope they beat us next week to stop Newcastle, the team we hate most after Blose, from winning the title? Where will this madness end?
#I don't care about Blose, Barcodes don't care about me, all I care about is AVFC

Really?
I think the dislike is all one way traffic from their end.

Exactly. I genuinely couldn't care less about Newcastle. They're a non-event.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: Richard E on May 01, 2017, 01:57:06 PM
After all this you watch Forest go down and Blackburn and Blose both stay up.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: Ad@m on May 01, 2017, 02:00:42 PM
After all this you watch Forest go down and Blackburn and Blose both stay up.

That'll piss me off no end. I put money on Blackburn to go down thinking I'd either win some money or be able to chuckle at Blues disappearing down the trapdoor.

Forest getting involved could spoil things severely.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: john e on May 01, 2017, 04:32:35 PM
After all this you watch Forest go down and Blackburn and Blose both stay up.

That'll piss me off no end. I put money on Blackburn to go down thinking I'd either win some money or be able to chuckle at Blues disappearing down the trapdoor.

Forest getting involved could spoil things severely.

of the three contenders for the drop Forest are the ones I want to stay up most
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: four fornicholl on May 01, 2017, 04:38:50 PM
European Cup winners aren't allowed to get relegated. Allegedly. ::)
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: QuintonVilla on May 01, 2017, 05:35:49 PM
Forest have the easiest game, they will beat Ipswich comfortably.

Small Heath will go down on goal difference, trust me.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: in exile on May 02, 2017, 09:36:33 AM
Forest have the easiest game, they will beat Ipswich comfortably.

Small Heath will go down on goal difference, trust me.

You had better be right!
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: CJ on May 02, 2017, 11:09:12 AM
Can't see Blackburn getting anything at Brentford so my money's on them to drop
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: eamonn on May 02, 2017, 12:31:27 PM
FFS, Brighton messing-up means, what? We have to hope they beat us next week to stop Newcastle, the team we hate most after Blose, from winning the title? Where will this madness end?
#I don't care about Blose, Barcodes don't care about me, all I care about is AVFC

Really?
I think the dislike is all one way traffic from their end.

Exactly. I genuinely couldn't care less about Newcastle. They're a non-event.

I was being tongue-in-cheek. Cheering against the Villa stops here and now after Saturday's antics.
Title: Re: The Villa-Blose-Blackburn Quandary
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on May 02, 2017, 01:05:10 PM
Can't see Blackburn getting anything at Brentford so my money's on them to drop

They seem odds-on to go.
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