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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: UK Redsox on February 04, 2017, 04:31:20 PM
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3-5-2 with Birkir at LB?
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Damn.... giant Twatter pic again.
Mr Shin, can you fix the pic size ?
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Bit harsh to drop Green. Surprised Taylor isn't involved at all.
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I didn't know that Bjork played left back
Why play wing backs but drop Amavi ?
Unless Baker's playing left back in a flat four
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Did anyone get even close to predicting that line up?
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Pictures from training showed Taylor wearing a protective mask. Perhaps Bruce doesn't want to risk him. Chester could be left back or Thor I guess. More or less the side I would have chosen, but we need to be disciplined in midfield.
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I didn't know that Bjork played left back
Why play wing backs but drop Amavi ?
Unless Baker's playing left back in a flat four
I think Amavi has paid for some poor displays and he's trying something different. Baker will be left of a back three. It's an interesting formation
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Amavi needed dropping he's been terrible for a while now.
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Oh yes, it's definitely 'interesting'.
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I hope I'm wrong, but I think Bjarnason should have been given more training time before getting a start. He looked shell shocked on Tuesday.
I'm glad McCafu has finally been dropped, but know little about Bree.
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Lucky bag selection, Bruce went with three at the back at Hull quite often so it wouldn't be a surprise if he did again. Surely it should be Taylor or Amavi on the left not Bjarnason or Baker. Maybe Hourihane and Lansbury can get Hogan in around the back of these but the selection looks wildly unbalanced again.
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Really hope Lansbury and Hourihane bring out more from Grealish.
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On paper it looks good going forward. On paper. Please win, Villa. Fed up of crowing Brighton fans down here.
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Looking at that team and trying to work out the formation! At least we have a couple of goalscorers, let's give them some service...
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Definitely looks good going forward, and I get Bree for Hutton, but what's going on at the back? 352? If so, why not Amavi at left wing back? And if it is 352, then is Bjarnason a left wing back? Or is it 433 with Baker at left back? Can't make it out.
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Amavi can have no complaints about being dropped - he's looked beyond awful for weeks
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Not bad, but no recognised left back?
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Not bad, but no recognised left back?
Not had one since Bouma
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Wow, a little random and carries risks that I didn't think Bruce would go with.
Either a decent win or a total clusterfuck.
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Interesting
We will find out soon enough
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It's a back four with Baker at left back I thought?
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Bit harsh to drop Green. Surprised Taylor isn't involved at all.
I was wracking my brain to think of who on earth Taylor was.
Completely forgot that we signed him.
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If we can't create anything for this front two given we have hourihane, Lansbury and jack in the side then I give up
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Just watching the back end of SKY SPORT SATURDAY and the league tables.
Bloody hell, I didn't realise we have only amassed 5 points more than Burton Albion.
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On paper it looks good going forward. On paper. Please win, Villa. Fed up of crowing Brighton fans down here.
Ignore them matey. There's still time for them to run out of steam & only make the play offs. Oh, and you might like ask them what they were doing before they built the new stadium (ie 'where were you when they were shite'?). ;)
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Open invitation for Forest to attack down our left hand side!
If Forest have a right winger he is going to have a field day, this definitely won't be 0 - 0, we will definitely concede!
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Odd line up, but come on Villa.
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Err...hmmm. 4-3-3 with Baker at LB or 3-5-2 with Bree pushing on?? In which case I might have given Bacuna the nod ahead of Bree?
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Assombalonga is back amongst the goals and is that Pereira back he was quite useful at VP before he got sent off.
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Not on here, shocker.
would really appreciate a pm, please and thanks :)
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Bruce pre-match interview - 'try something new today'
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Hoping for the best but as usual with away matches I have a bad feeling about this.
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Odd line up, but come on Villa.
Here's hoping 'odd' is a euphemism for inspired then Paul. :)
Come on Villa!
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Afternoon, gents.
Having lost 5 of the last 6 games we desperately need the points today. Bruce may still talk about breaking into the top 6 but we need to look at the other end of the table too. I'm going for a 3-1 Villa win.
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Not on here, shocker.
would really appreciate a pm, please and thanks :)
VC, its on BeIn Sports Connect (their own online streaming site, ch3) if you have a subscription on your tv.
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Blimey, Eric Lichaj is captain of Forest now
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Bjarnason at left back. Hmmm.
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They've just said Taylor is ill.
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Bit harsh to drop Green. Surprised Taylor isn't involved at all.
Taylor is ill apparently.
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Back three with Bjork & Bree as Wing backs
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Step forward tonight please Jack, and show us what you can do.
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anybody getting commentary on official site please?
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TREMENDOUS start
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anybody getting commentary on official site please?
Trying to...no luck yet!
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Not getting near the ball at the moment.
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For anyone with Sky, its on Sky Sports Mix (free channel).
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are you taking the piss?
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Who? Me?
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Poor start to the match.
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Great shot by Kodjia
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5-3-2. Perfect for Amavi, so he plays Iceland guy at left wing-back instead?
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Bjarni looks a little out of his depth.
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For anyone with Sky, its on Sky Sports Mix (free channel).
Cheers for the tip KRS! I'm with Virgin and you can get it through them too.
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Looks like Thor? could be lucky to last 30, never mind 90.
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Not exactly up and at 'em are we?
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For anyone with Sky, its on Sky Sports Mix (free channel).
Cheers for the tip KRS! I'm with Virgin and you can get it through them too.
Happy days great tip thanks,
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scooter down the wing
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For anyone with Sky, its on Sky Sports Mix (free channel).
Cheers for the tip KRS! I'm with Virgin and you can get it through them too.
No worries. Its channel 407 for anyone with Sky.
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For anyone with Sky, its on Sky Sports Mix (free channel).
Cheers for the tip KRS! I'm with Virgin and you can get it through them too.
No worries. Its channel 407 for anyone with Sky.
And 517 on Virgin.
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Gosh we're dull.
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For anyone with Sky, its on Sky Sports Mix (free channel).
Thanks - I think!!!
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So are we playing 3/5 at the back? Didn't Bruce say 442 was the way to get out of this league as hasn't he just had a transfer window?
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Christ we've barely touched the ball.
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Forest dominating - we look soft.
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If the game plan is to sit back, concede possession and not make any tackles then it's all going to plan so far.
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All Forest so far.
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Is this just the pre match warm up??
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For anyone with Sky, its on Sky Sports Mix (free channel).
Cheers for the tip KRS! I'm with Virgin and you can get it through them too.
No worries. Its channel 407 for anyone with Sky.
And 517 on Virgin.
No it's definitely 5-3-2
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Have we strung more than 3 passes together?
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70% -30% to them apparently
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Great run Hogan
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This is facebendingly shit.
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Great run by Hogan
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their being lured into our trap
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Excellent run by Hogan. Forest defence doing a good impersonation of our defenders.
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With the team on paper, I think it's one of the strongest and most exciting in the last few years .....why isn't it translating on the pitch ?😡
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I already love Hogan.
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Good effort from Hogan!
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I swear that watching a game is an inconvienience to some fans. More interested in taunting
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Hogans run
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Beautiful!!!
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What a goal!
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Get innnn!
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Who? Me?
No sorry, TE, didn't get official site till 10 minutes gone
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Whhhhaaaaaaaat a fuuuuuuuuccccccccccccccccccckkkkkkkkiiiiinnnng ggggggooalllllllllll
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Brilliant
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Kodddddddddddd
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Get in!!!!!!
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You fucking beauty!!!!!
Superb from Jack and Kodj
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Get in, super goal. Now win it Villa.
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With the team on paper, I think it's one of the strongest and most exciting in the last few years .....why isn't it translating on the pitch ?😡
Could be something to do with the manager's tactics, style of play etc., especially when compared with the impact of Hull's new manager
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Great goal!!
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What a goal!!!
That's beautiful.
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Good lad Jack, more please.
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Easy. So easy. We are going muller these fuckketz
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oh I like that
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With the team on paper, I think it's one of the strongest and most exciting in the last few years .....why isn't it translating on the pitch ?😡
Can I edit my post ?!
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Bloody heck, we've scored!!!
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That was a bit good wasn't it.
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lured I tell you, lured
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Form a wall then give Jon or Scott the ball. Repeat.
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YESSSSSSSSSS! Come on Villa! Love the feint from Grealish
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The stats show that if we take the lead we do okay ...
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We've missed JK
glad he's back
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I often find myself criticising kodijia under my breath and then he scores another beauty. Keep it up!
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lured I tell you, lured
'Shout Tone! :)
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Cracking move and goal. Who played the ball to Grealish? Such a clever decision when he had two options.
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The tone of the thread's comments has suddenly changed
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Thor keeps kicking the wrong fucking way!
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I often find myself criticising kodijia under my breath and then he scores another beauty. Keep it up!
I think we now have a very conventional centre forward in Hogan and a slightly less conventional one in Kodjia who is capable of the unexpected. It might be the making of something rather good.
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Cracking move and goal. Who played the ball to Grealish? Such a clever decision when he had two options.
Lansbury. Good pressure from Conor, good transition from Lansbury, fantastic assist and finish from Kodj.
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McCormack made it over the gate but now he is trapped behind glass at the City Ground. Sign him up, Whipsnade!
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as Humphrey said, "the start of a beautiful friendship" hopefully
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Knobhead next to me missed the goal because he was too interested in taunting the Forest fans 😄
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Cracking move and goal. Who played the ball to Grealish? Such a clever decision when he had two options.
Hourihane > Lansbury > Grealish > Kodjia
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Knobhead next to me missed the goal because he was too interested in taunting the Forest fans 😄
your watching the game!?
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Why didn't CH just lay that into Kod?
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Silly foul by Elphick
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Scrum is poor, the forward pack isn't working.
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Wrong game!
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Stupid yellow for Jack
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Why a yellow for Jack?
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Why a yellow for Jack?
Just seen why - silly boy
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Petulant from Jack. Unnecessary kicking the ball away like that.
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Why a yellow for Jack?
Kicked the ball away apparently
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Should have been a yellow for Thor.
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Dodgy keeper - that's twice he's spilled it
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Thor has been useless in his 120 minute Villa career.
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Fuck. 2 good chances for Tommy.
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Kodjia needs to realise he has team mates and he's allowed to pass to them when necessary.
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Should be three
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Thor is not a left wing back. Amavi is.
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Foul Thor ins galore.
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Goal aside, this is pretty shit.
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Apart from the goal we have been shocking
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Great arctic roll by Bjork.
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Bruce cannot do bottle throwing, nor hairdryers at half time with SIX January signings newly in the team. Quiet words of simple advice required.
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Very sloppy in possession
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We still have trouble passing it!
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STOP GIVING THE FUKIN BALL AWAY!!!
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Is Kodija Ivory Coastian for 'Cannot see a Hogan'?
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Gifting them possession again.
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Poor from Johnstone
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I am Jonah
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We need a good goalie
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Shite keeper
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That Johnstone is fucking shit.
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This goalie is fucking turd.
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Wanker of a goalie.
But, other than the goal, a couple of flashes from Kodj, we have been fucking gash.
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Fuckin sloppy keeping again.
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Ohh for fuck's sake. Stood off the man allowing the shot then keeper spills it. Poor all round
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Fuck off Villa, we have been shite for 41.5 mins out of 42 mins, no more than we deserve!
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Fuck me great goalkeeping that.
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Get Gollini back....
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That is fucking atrocious. Forest deserve it but ffs villa.
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Pathetic goalkeeping
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That Johnstone is fucking shit.
This
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Morons
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We should have stuck with gollini
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He's really shite that goalie is
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Fuck off Villa, we have been shite for 41.5 mins out of 42 mins, no more than we deserve!
That's not true we've been dangerous
Keepers fault completely
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Clearly we're going to lose this game.
Goalie hugely suspect and we keep giving the ball away.
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Forest have looked piss poor and lacking in quality, so we have to gift them a goal to get them going.
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Johnstone is shite, Gollini was so much better.
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How many keeper error goals this year? Gollini would be better, as he had used his quota this season
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Johnstone is an improvement on Gollini...
....his english is better.
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We'll crumble now.
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Dodgy keeper. Glad he's only on loan.
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Clough looks like the player I thought hourihane was going to be.
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Gollini come home.
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Another needless yellow
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Fuck me Forest are doing fcuk all for 40 minutes and we give them a fcukin way back in. Jesus.
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... and I thought Johnstone would do well, utter rubbish!
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Two ridiculous yellow cards today.
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We were only dangerous because Forest allowed either Kodjia or Hogan to run at them, as for passing it's been god awful!
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Ffs Hogan. Why, you moron?
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Concede and then we go backwards as usual.
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We look to me to be a side of big time Charlie's who think they don't need to do some fucking hard work.
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That was a load of shite, goal apart.
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Plenty of arguing & fighting amongst the Villa fans
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We do this all the fucking time, and it drives me nuts.
Get in front, start to control game, utterly pointlessly throw away an equaliser and then spend the rest of the match trying to gift them a winner.
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We give away so many fucking stupid goals.
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The commentators seem to think we were decent, I thought we were terrible, goal aside. We barely created anything, had nothing of the ball and sick of goalkeeping errors.
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That is fucking atrocious. Forest deserve it but ffs villa.
Do they? That was their first chance
We've had about four
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I thought we were looking comfortable for the first 40 minutes, then we gift them a goal. Momentum is swinging to them now.
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Sure it's been said but why Johnstone? He is more error prone than gollini, instills no confidence, isn't even our player. Bad decision from Bruce.
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just eleven individuals who lack cohesion lots of talent but don't know their jobs
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How many keeper error goals this year? Gollini would be better, as he had used his quota this season
Bunn is better than Johnstone. Gollini is much better than both of them.
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The commentators seem to think we were decent, I thought we were terrible, goal aside. We barely created anything, had nothing of the ball and sick of goalkeeping errors.
I thought we looked comfortable until we fooked up.
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I think we know how it goes from here. I'd take the draw right now.
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Some in fighting here. Odd.
We've controlled the game. They've had a lot of the ball but it's all square.
One attempt on target and we gift a soft equaliser.
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We'll crumble now.
Written in the stars. I mean, I hope not obviously and there is no reason we should not be able to go and win this as Forest is a club in free fall. But then there is us. With what we do.
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That is fucking atrocious. Forest deserve it but ffs villa.
Do they? That was their first chance
We've had about four
I think they've played the better, adventurous football. I'd want to see us dominate the ball and look cohesive as a team. I hope it will come eventually but they just looked better than we did.
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Elphick is shocking. He's missed 2 absolute sitters and is massively dodgy at the back.
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Great strike by Kodjia. Apart from that, Forest look far superior to our rabble. We don't make space, can't pass, and so on. The list is endless. I don't like Bruce as a manager-his tactics are archaic. It's going to become a pressure oven for him soon unless results change.
We have some decent players now. God only knows what they coach them to do in training.
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Even when they had a lot of possession we had Hogan run on goal, a Kodjia shot which their keeper spilled, scored a goal and could/should have had a second, but we have been absolutely shocking in possession - constantly giving it away ending with gifting them a goal. Will it ever change?
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And here we have our problem ... mental fragility just what the Dr denied we had a problem with.
As soon as we concede you can smell the fear from our lot ... and it becomes a car crash. Just like it was last season just a division lower.
We will need a 6 or 7 match winning run to flush this through
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Elphick is shocking. He's missed 2 absolute sitters and is massively dodgy at the back.
Absolutely mate. The ball seems to be a hot potato for him whenever he has it, and his distribution is appalling.
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Forest have looked fucking awful.
Not a problem, though, when playing us, there's always a random gift knocking about somewhere.
Does anyone have any doubt whatsoever regarding what is going to happen in the second half?
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We are simply not working hard to close down when out of possession. Surely Bruce and the players must have seen a tape of the Brentford game
and seen this was just not acceptable even when playing badly. Drives me crazy!
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How many keeper error goals this year? Gollini would be better, as he had used his quota this season
Bunn is better than Johnstone. Gollini is much better than both of them.
Bad news I'm afraid, Bunns worse than all of em. Old mother Hubbards cupboard I'm afraid
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I would love to know how many times we lost the ball and gave away possession staggering.
Good goal but kodija needs to stop being so greedy.
Another gift of a goal. Johnstone is no better than what we had.
They need more composure and more work ethic second half and the chances will come!
Work together as a team villa pass the ball move for your player do the ruddy basics
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I'm tired of seeing us let teams knock it around. Forest are a poor side but we stand off - no pressure on the ball and let them play themselves into the game. We need to be much more intense around the pitch.
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What game you watching? They've done fuck all.
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Can't understand why we're letting the forest back four knock it around at leisure
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If 5-3-2 is the formation he wants, fine, play that way for a good succession of games. But don't play Thor there. That's just playing a player because you bought him.
I know it's only a few games, but is this GK really any better than what we had?
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I thought we'd done ok, gutted by the equaliser, such a typical goal to give away from Villa. Hogan and Kodjia look sharp, midfield ok, Bjarneson or whatever his name is looks out of sorts at left back and Les said about goalie the better. Gutted, can't believe they are level.
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Great strike by Kodjia. Apart from that, Forest look far superior to our rabble. We don't make space, can't pass, and so on. The list is endless. I don't like Bruce as a manager-his tactics are archaic. It's going to become a pressure oven for him soon unless results change.
We have some decent players now. God only knows what they coach them to do in training.
Forest far superior? No chance from I have bee watching.
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Its still not great BUT we do look like scoring when we go forward, ill take that for starters.
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Huge gaff not to bring a decent keeper in or even keep Gollini. Spend all that cash and we have an inexperienced no.1. Place is a mess
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just eleven individuals who lack cohesion lots of talent but don't know their jobs
It's up to Bruce now, his team, his responsibility for the team selection, style of play and squad format but most of all, teach them how to keep possession and pass to each other.
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Just a mid table scrap...will probably end as it is.
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What game you watching? They've done fuck all.
I think they just look far more comfortable in possession, they can find a man with a pass, they have shape. We are bereft of these aspects.
Let's hope we do them second half.
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We are simply not working hard to close down when out of possession. Surely Bruce and the players must have seen a tape of the Brentford game
and seen this was just not acceptable even when playing badly. Drives me crazy!
This. Fucking push up and take the game to Forest. The forwards are having to conjure their own chances. Close down from a higher line all over the park.
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Their football knocking square balls 40 yards from goal. That's the adventurous, superior football?
They're shit. We need to drive at them as they're woeful at the back.
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What game you watching? They've done fuck all.
I think they just look far more comfortable in possession, they can find a man with a pass, they have shape. We are bereft of these aspects.
Let's hope we do them second half.
We have let them have possession and they have done f all with it, where we have created chances to be three up.
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Forest have looked fucking awful.
Not a problem, though, when playing us, there's always a random gift knocking about somewhere.
Does anyone have any doubt whatsoever regarding what is going to happen in the second half?
Our players always give fans something to cheer about no matter how dire the season has been and how desperate things are. Problem is its the fans of other clubs.
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We are simply not working hard to close down when out of possession. Surely Bruce and the players must have seen a tape of the Brentford game
and seen this was just not acceptable even when playing badly. Drives me crazy!
Don't thinks it's not working hard enough, it looks deliberate to me. They are obviously under orders to let them have then all in their own half. I really don't understand it, I could if we were playing a top PL side but it's Forest for God sake!
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just eleven individuals who lack cohesion lots of talent but don't know their jobs
It's up to Bruce now, his team, his responsibility for the team selection, style of play and squad format but most of all, teach them how to keep possession and pass to each other.
Exactly. Time for some coaching over the next however many months.
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Elphick dangerous in both penalty areas. The bonus of having him up that high is he is less likely to gub it near his own box, I suppose.
Rookie keeper making a mistake? Bet none of us could see that one coming. Three duds in a row is quite impressive.
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Thank goodness we're helping ManYoo road test their mediocre young goalkeepers rather than trying to develop our own.
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So, an unexpected lead eventually followed by an equaliser - after playing like a bunch of clueless knob-'eads.
Classic Villa. ::)
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Their football knocking square balls 40 yards from goal. That's the adventurous, superior football?
They're shit. We need to drive at them as they're woeful at the back.
They were able to keep possession, pass it to their own players. That's better than how we played that half. They were always looking for something down our left and we were camped in our own half towards the end of that half. If Forest were shit, what were we?! I'm hoping for better football from us eventually.
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Two really poor teams. Are Forest really that threatening that we need to stand off them a mile? Piss poor to watch, keepers error was poor but we don't deserve anything playing that type of muck football.
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We need an experienced keeper who's over 30, I can't be doing with having a kid as number 1.
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Gotta get Scott into the game, one of the few times he has had the ball, he nearly scored a brilliant goal.
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Every time we get the ball we just seem to hump it and hope we hit them on the break. Try and pass the bloody ball now and again.
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Forest looked wank until the goalie fecked up
now we have let them have a bit of confidence
Kodja needs to look up and pass and Elphick just isnt good enough
I thought we were comfy before the feck up of Johnstone .
great goal thou , now get out there and do these Villa .
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We are simply not working hard to close down when out of possession. Surely Bruce and the players must have seen a tape of the Brentford game
and seen this was just not acceptable even when playing badly. Drives me crazy!
This. Fucking push up and take the game to Forest. The forwards are having to conjure their own chances.
It's a Steve Bruce away day. Play for the point, even when you lead.
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The midfield is still not working whether it's because they are new to each other not sure. Kodja has to be more of a team player always does too much good goal though. We still have players that cannot make a simple pass to a teammate.
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Two really poor teams. Are Forest really that threatening that we need to stand off them a mile? Piss poor to watch, keepers error was poor but we don't deserve anything playing that type of muck football.
As I posted earlier, on paper best team we've had for years....let's start to translate on the turf this half
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Two really poor teams. Are Forest really that threatening that we need to stand off them a mile?
We do this every game, we start higher up the pitch and play brightly for 10 mins, then slowly collapse back towards our own goal and invite the opposition to attack us. We're not good enough to play this way.
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Their football knocking square balls 40 yards from goal. That's the adventurous, superior football?
They're shit. We need to drive at them as they're woeful at the back.
They were able to keep possession, pass it to their own players. That's better than how we played that half. They were always looking for something down our left and we were camped in our own half towards the end of that half. If Forest were shit, what were we?! I'm hoping for better football from us eventually.
Spot on as usual, Nelly. Hope you're well mate.
I love your passion though, Ads. I'm hoping it will infect me. Are you at the match? Hows our support been?
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Start doesnt bide well. Still standing off 🙄
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I struggle with the logic of shipping out an inexperienced keeper and replacing him with another inexperienced keeper. To be honest I thought Gollini looked, ricks aside, better.
That being said, we've spunked money relentlessly on every other position, particularly front men, but we really should have spent money on a good, experienced keeper.
We'll get nowhere near playoffs without a solid keeper. Someone who's been there and done it. That's not a kid. And that's not a perenniell 2nd/3rd choice like Bunn.
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Another stupid free kick to give away
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Villa seem to bring players who are delivering for another club and as soon as they get to B6/BMH they become very ordinary or crap very quickly, must be the air, or a long line of poor managers.
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Fucking hell what sort of decision is that from Elphick.
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Elphick's a liability
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Their football knocking square balls 40 yards from goal. That's the adventurous, superior football?
They're shit. We need to drive at them as they're woeful at the back.
They were able to keep possession, pass it to their own players. That's better than how we played that half. They were always looking for something down our left and we were camped in our own half towards the end of that half. If Forest were shit, what were we?! I'm hoping for better football from us eventually.
Spot on as usual, Nelly. Hope you're well mate.
I love your passion though, Ads. I'm hoping it will infect me. Are you at the match? Hows our support been?
Cheers Nik, I hope you're well too mate! Fingers crossed Villa can do this.
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Grealish has no delivery at all.
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Barney has been Thorful in a Villa shirt.
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Their football knocking square balls 40 yards from goal. That's the adventurous, superior football?
They're shit. We need to drive at them as they're woeful at the back.
They were able to keep possession, pass it to their own players. That's better than how we played that half. They were always looking for something down our left and we were camped in our own half towards the end of that half. If Forest were shit, what were we?! I'm hoping for better football from us eventually.
Spot on as usual, Nelly. Hope you're well mate.
I love your passion though, Ads. I'm hoping it will infect me. Are you at the match? Hows our support been?
Cheers Nik, I hope you're well too mate! Fingers crossed Villa can do this.
Cheers mate. I hope so!
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as Guzans biggest fan on here and I know he wasn't perfect,
but if we'd had kept him I reckon we'd be top 6 now or there abouts
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Grealish has no delivery at all.
Harsh. He set up the first goal.
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as Guzans biggest fan on here and I know he wasn't perfect,
but if we'd had kept him I reckon we'd be top 6 now or there abouts
Oh come on, he was fuckin hopeless.
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The commentators seem to think we were decent, I thought we were terrible, goal aside. We barely created anything, had nothing of the ball and sick of goalkeeping errors.
We weren't great at all but apart from the goal elphick could have scored twice and hogan nearly scored
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Guzan was a million times better than Gollini and Johnstone. Those Bosnich-esque saves in the league cup at Sunderland...
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Are Grealish & Hourihane on the wrong sides?
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Why do we put pretty much zero pressure on to get the ball back when Forest have it?
It's like we're waiting for the passage of the game to be favourable to us rather than getting in there and actively chasing the ball down.
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I do however tend to agree that this has got 78th minute forest winner written all over it
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The commentators seem to think we were decent, I thought we were terrible, goal aside. We barely created anything, had nothing of the ball and sick of goalkeeping errors.
We weren't great at all but apart from the goal elphick could have scored twice and hogan nearly scored
Yeah we had the best chances first half.
Elphick's having a 'mare at the back.
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The commentators seem to think we were decent, I thought we were terrible, goal aside. We barely created anything, had nothing of the ball and sick of goalkeeping errors.
We weren't great at all but apart from the goal elphick could have scored twice and hogan nearly scored
We definitely had chances, I agree. I guess I'd like us to be more authoritative in games. Bit tired of seeing teams out-pass us for fun. Constantly camped in our own half. It's demoralising!
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The commentators seem to think we were decent, I thought we were terrible, goal aside. We barely created anything, had nothing of the ball and sick of goalkeeping errors.
We weren't great at all but apart from the goal elphick could have scored twice and hogan nearly scored
Yeah we had the best chances first half.
Elphick's having a 'mare at the back.
Elphick is dreadful.
All that 'captain courageous' blood and thunder stuff is all well and nice, but he's really not a very good player at all.
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As disjointed a rabble of footballers that I think Ive ever seen
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The midfield are still controlling nothing.
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The Ivory Coast AFCON dining room a fortnight ago "Kodj, how are you getting on at Villa?" "None of my teammates can play football, so I will only shoot on every rare occasion when they accidentally get me the ball."
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Kodjia scores goals. But if he passed we'd probably score more.
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Our midfield is absolute mince. Hoofing it back up the field, Forest get it back and another attack is in. Ad nauseam.
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Why do we put pretty much zero pressure on to get the ball back when Forest have it?
It's like we're waiting for the passage of the game to be favourable to us rather than getting in there and actively chasing the ball down.
Conserving energy, when we get fitter as the season progresses we will up the pace... oops the season has finished!
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Stop fuckin hoofing the ball everytime we gain possession.
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Should have scored
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We simply cannot retain the ball, if that doesn't change, we will lose. What makes it worse is that Forest are terrible!
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Should have scored
Definitely. Struck it well though.
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The commentators seem to think we were decent, I thought we were terrible, goal aside. We barely created anything, had nothing of the ball and sick of goalkeeping errors.
We weren't great at all but apart from the goal elphick could have scored twice and hogan nearly scored
We definitely had chances, I agree. I guess I'd like us to be more authoritative in games. Bit tired of seeing teams out-pass us for fun. Constantly camped in our own half. It's demoralising!
Oh I agree with that completely
It's just that it's actually looking quite dangerous today, playing on the break with two up
Should have fired again there
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Lansbury is doing fine but is Hourihane still on the pitch?
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Fucking hell close the opposition down with some energy.
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Where are our fucking midfielders???
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Unlucky Hogan.
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Hogan looks promising if given the ball. Really not sure about Hourihane though.
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Sky commentators noting that Villa are being destroyed by their former 8th choice right back Lichaj. Why? Thor is not a fucking left back, Bruce!!!
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We're as deep as the Mariana Trench
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Our midfield is nowhere.
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Forest could pass the ball around the centre circle all day and we wouldn't have a player within 20 yards of them.
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Hogan looks a real goalscorer. Unlucky there.
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Where are our fucking midfielders???
Sold one to Burnley and the other is on duty at his Cereal shop in Shoreditch.
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Why do Villa teams never pressure the other side when they have the ball, give them too much time to set a pass and deliver it. The coaching at BMH has been poor about the fundamentals of the game with several consecutive managers.
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Missing Jedinak. Neither Hourihane or Lansbury are holding midfielders, both good technically but don't sniff out danger at all
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When did Lichaj become Messi ???
Bloody everywhere
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Where are our fucking midfielders???
God only knows. I want to see more from Hourihane.
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The commentators seem to think we were decent, I thought we were terrible, goal aside. We barely created anything, had nothing of the ball and sick of goalkeeping errors.
We weren't great at all but apart from the goal elphick could have scored twice and hogan nearly scored
We definitely had chances, I agree. I guess I'd like us to be more authoritative in games. Bit tired of seeing teams out-pass us for fun. Constantly camped in our own half. It's demoralising!
Oh I agree with that completely
It's just that it's actually looking quite dangerous today, playing on the break with two up
Should have fired again there
Yeah, good point. Hopefully as they play together and gain some chemistry as a unit we'll look a bit more assured.
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Hogan looks a real goalscorer. Unlucky there.
But he needs the service from midfield
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Apparently we bought a new midfield last week, has anyone seen them? Or got the receipts for that matter?
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Lansbury is doing fine but is Hourihane still on the pitch?
Yeah I can't say I've been too impressed so far
Early days
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Our decision making is just awful.
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kod did well but no one anticipated
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I have already taken a serious dislike to that Icelandic fella. Hes a twat.
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Kod is doing his best non-passing Ayew impression
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Dire. What the fuck is this? Hoof. Hoof.
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I have already taken a serious dislike to that Icelandic fella. Hes a twat.
I think he's been alright actually, but our midfield is non-existent.
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I can't get over how bad this is
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Kodja will not pass will he
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Kodjia goes over far too easily.
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I have already taken a serious dislike to that Icelandic fella. Hes a twat.
To be fair he looks slightly better playing there ... except we have 2 better players for that position who are both inexplicable absent.
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if they had a plan and could do the basics, they'd stand a chance
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Why the hell are we never loading the box when we attacking????
....only Hogan could be bothered to make the run for Kodjia there!!
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It is far too easy to run through our midfield.
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If we don't get out of this league before the parachute payments end, I honestly think we're fucked - Leeds style, extended stay fucked.
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I'm struggling to come to terms with the first half being our good half.
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Subs time: Amavi & Adomah for Thor & Elphick. 442.
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Just keep the f......g ball.Still no midfield!
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Bjarneson has been OK
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The midfield's problem is partly that the wing backs aren't really supporting them enough
Pus grealish not at his best by any means and hourihane looking ropey. And no proper holding midfielder
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Kodjia goes over far too easily.
I dunno man. Ball in the face at full force. That would shake me up.
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If we don't get out of this league before the parachute payments end, I honestly think we're fucked - Leeds style, extended stay fucked.
It's scary because it's very possible. We have to get our act together.
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Looking increasingly like Bruce lucked out in that first run of games. We look tactically inept and also look to have had another bad transfer window, despite vast sums of money pissed up the wall yet again. What an unlikeable outfit we have become.
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I still think there's a goal in this for us, playing this way. The front two aren't really linking but they are dangerous
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Kodjia goes over far too easily.
I dunno man. Ball in the face at full force. That would shake me up.
I was referring to the previous run into the box, not the ball in face.
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Kodjia goes over far too easily.
I dunno man. Ball in the face at full force. That would shake me up.
Man up
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Tommy Cooper Elphick looks a bit rusty.
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Bree looks quite tidy doesn't he?
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Kodjia goes over far too easily.
I dunno man. Ball in the face at full force. That would shake me up.
I was referring to the previous run into the box, not the ball in face.
Ah gotcha.
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He looked rusty when he was playing every week.
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Bree looks solid.
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... look to have had another bad transfer window, despite vast sums of money pissed up the wall yet again. What an unlikeable outfit we have become.
A little early to write them off just like that.
This team set-up and the absence of Jedi make this very difficult to make a judgement on.
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At least England beat France at egg chasing.
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Tommy Cooper Elphick looks a bit rusty.
He is excellent at clearing....when we have the corner.
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Fucking hell kodjia can you pass the ball at least sometimes?
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Bree looks quite tidy doesn't he?
We will ruin his career soon enough
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Soooo close again
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Fuck sake we should be winning this.
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Unlucky great save.
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Decent set peices to be fair. Good to see.
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I think that kind of free kick is why hourihane has so many assists
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Substitutions NOW or we will concede as usual.
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Other clubs have worldy goalies.Us....... ?
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Another 2 good chances missed.
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How have we not scored there?!
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That was an excellent save. Good free kick villa.
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Beginning to like the look of Conor
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Played Hogan.
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So that's what a goalkeeper does.
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... look to have had another bad transfer window, despite vast sums of money pissed up the wall yet again. What an unlikeable outfit we have become.
A little early to write them off just like that.
Fair point. We still look unbalanced then which is Bruce's fault. If we are relying on Jedi to shore up the midfield I'm worried. Still have a keeper that puts the shits up the defence. Still don't appear to have have a genuine ball winner with a pair of balls.
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Fucking hit the target or pass, don't do some half arsed crap chip cross!
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Kodjia and not passing is too often an occurrence.
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Elphick heads the ball like Johnny Dexter.
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The cut back was on then.
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Kodja gets on my tits
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Make a change Bruce. Get Green on.
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Lichaj's performance is directly because we're playing 532. It's two on one all the time
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I can't get any fucking enjoyment watching this shit
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This point of the game, with the second half having been as it has, is absolutely perfect "chuck one in" territory for Villa now.
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The fucking time and space we give them is ridiculous.
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Watch Grealish pressure...its like playing with a man down!
He doesn't only look like Ivar the Boneless. He is just as full of himself.
Sets up the goal and then he thinks he done and been excellent.
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That was good.
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Good move. Kodjia should have buried it
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Much better actually worked a chance.
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Great bit of play, must be the first time we have passed it around from one end of the pitch to the other.
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Bree had to stay calm and pass back to the 6 yard line.
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If we were even a half decent team, we'd realise there's three points to be taken here and up the pressure now.
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Regardless of giving away too much space and possession, we're still the only team creating chances.
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Fuck. Jack sent off.
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Jack gives the ref no choice
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Grealish off. Twat first booking
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Oh for fucks sake.
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Jack Twat.
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Nice one Jack ffs
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Fucks sake. Well on top again and now look
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There goes a chance of three points.
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Well idiocy got you that red Jack.
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FFS
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You stupid boy!
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Should have subbed Grealish ages ago
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His own stupidity got himself sent off.
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Nicely done, Jack, you fucking moron.
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Jack has the IQ of a goldfish
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Seriously jack? Well done ✅
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That's fucked it.
And him, most likely.
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The more I see of Jack the more I think he's a brain dead moron who'll never 'make it'
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Dickhead
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Cheers mate!
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I've only watched about 15-20 mins (and on the worlds worst stream) but up until the red we looked pretty good and should have scored.
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And the hoof away. Statement of intent. I think we know how this ends.
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There goes Jack and our promotion chances.
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Grealish what an idiot!
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What a twat!
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Should have subbed Grealish ages ago
Bruce is seriously underwhelming so far.
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At least I don't have to watch him mince around for another 10 mins
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Grow up Jack.
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But as Dave Woodall says, he does work for charity, so it's ok for Grealish to be a petulant little boy.
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Jack has the IQ of a goldfish
That's a bit harsh on goldfish, surely?
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Looking long term, I hope Kodj starts learning when to play Hogan in and when to keep it. He needs to lose about 25% of his selfishness at least.
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I know it's early days but Fuk me that bjornasson looks shite
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Just starting to look like me might nick it - then that! Backs to wall now I would think
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Two stupid yellows and a pointless red. Fucking hell Jack.
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Leo & AA coming on
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Waste of space jack, he costs us more than he gives us by a long way. Jogged around contributing nothing since his assist, then that.
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Grealish is massively overrated AND a moron. Great combination.
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Just as we were starting to create better movement and chances. Lucky to come away with a point now. Stupid, stupid boy
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Jack can make a game But he aint no Sid Cowans. He needs to work on his social skills.
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A back five with ten men is going to cede a lot of possession
A lot
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Actually I like this change.
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There goes Jack and our promotion chances.
I'm not sure that him being on the pitch or in the team was really going to be the difference.
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But as Dave Woodall says, he does work for charity, so it's ok for Grealish to be a petulant little boy.
Where's Dave said that?
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The most fouled player in the division has made maybe one foul, well that is fair play isn't it.
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We are so laboured.
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Bruce needs to kick Jack's arse and fine him two weeks wages, the stupid undisciplined prat
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Looks like we're taking the draw then.
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The fuck off bruce.
2 strikers off????
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5-4-0 now
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shit subs
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But as Dave Woodall says, he does work for charity, so it's ok for Grealish to be a petulant little boy.
Where's Dave said that?
In a direct response to me saying (in not quite these words), Grealish needs to grow up and behave.
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The season in a nutshell.
We get back into the game and shoot ourselves in the foot with a few RPG's.
Fast forward to May already, so we can look forward to transfers again and park the actual football.
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Hogan and Kodja off ?
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None up front then
Hogan did well today tho
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WTF is Bruce doing now? Happy with a point?
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I would have kept Hogan on, those direct runs of his could have been useful on the break.
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The most fouled player in the division has made maybe one foul, well that is fair play isn't it.
The kicking the ball away petulantly to get the first yellow is the thing most people are annoyed about. Do that and you're on a tightrope the rest of the match.
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The most fouled player in the division has made maybe one foul, well that is fair play isn't it.
Sorry no he asked for a yellow by kicking the ball away like a petulant child and the second was a yellow all day long. 100% Jack's fault.
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We are not even going to try to nick this now
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Thats just fucking madness .... hogan been isolated all game by Kodjas selfishness and he brings him off with Kodja ???
Is that so they can build a better understanding from the bench ??? Senseless
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Going for a draw then 😫
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The most fouled player in the division has made maybe one foul, well that is fair play isn't it.
I thought it was a clear yellow but even if it was harsh his real stupidity was getting the yellow in the first half by kicking the ball away
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Needing a goal Bruce takes off both goal scorers . He is still paid by BCFC, surely ??!!
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The most fouled player in the division has made maybe one foul, well that is fair play isn't it.
Well yes if he commits two cautionable offences, it is.
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We're gonna win 2-1! Come on.
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We are a total fucking shambles.
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Now 4-4-1
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No threat up front we just inviting them to have a 10 min shooting contest.
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I can't wait for this season to end, not that I'm looking forward to next season.
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Abominable substitutions, fucking awful,
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The most fouled player in the division has made maybe one foul, well that is fair play isn't it.
The kicking the ball away petulantly to get the first yellow is the thing most people are annoyed about. Do that and you're on a tightrope the rest of the match.
Exactly. The second would have commendable but for the first, stopping a breakaway with the game still there to win.
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I'll give a bitcointo anyone who can explain who's playing where for us now
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Needing a goal Bruce takes off both goal scorers . He is still paid by BCFC, surely ??!!
You do wonder.
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Bruce is showing that having all that cash but not knowing how to play them is like a geek spending good cash on clothes and automatically expecting to pick birds up
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I can't wait for May to come around there is just no enjoyment watching this shower it's bloody awful.
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Abominable substitutions, fucking awful,
And twenty minutes too late. Useless.
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Bruce only signed Lansbury, Thor, Hogan, Johnstone and Hourihane last month, but has already destroyed their confidence. I am giving up on Villa, until Graham Taylor is in charge next season.
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Foul against our player making a break. No card.
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But as Dave Woodall says, he does work for charity, so it's ok for Grealish to be a petulant little boy.
Where's Dave said that?
In a direct response to me saying (in not quite these words), Grealish needs to grow up and behave.
Not quite what you intimated in your post though. I can't imagine Dave said that his behaviour was acceptable due to his charitable nature.
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Down to 10 men then taking off Lansbury for Green makes no sense at all.
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what makes it worse it that Forest are still shit even with an extra man
any half decent side would have put them away already
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We should rename the end of season DVD "People Do The Stupidest Things", we'd get to a much larger market.
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All the gear no idea
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what makes it worse it that Forest are still shit even with an extra man
any half decent side would have put them away already
What I just thought myself, too.
We're down to 10 men, mid table in the Championship, taking off both our multi-million pound strikers to try and grind out a point against 19th-placed Forest.
How sad.
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4 added minutes, to wait for Lichaj to score.
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I can't wait for May to come around there is just no enjoyment watching this shower it's bloody awful.
Me too. I've only watched the second half and I was dreading turning over after the rugby
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But as Dave Woodall says, he does work for charity, so it's ok for Grealish to be a petulant little boy.
Where's Dave said that?
In a direct response to me saying (in not quite these words), Grealish needs to grow up and behave.
Not quite what you intimated in your post though. I can't imagine Dave said that his behaviour was acceptable due to his charitable nature.
He didn't say that, nobody said that as he knows full well.
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But as Dave Woodall says, he does work for charity, so it's ok for Grealish to be a petulant little boy.
First, learn to spell.
Second, I don't know why you choose to bring me into it so
Third. Apologise.