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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Dave on August 24, 2016, 07:30:27 AM
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Ashton Gate, Saturday 27th August, 3pm
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must win
2 nil victory
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Them - 0
Us - McCormack and Ayew
Clean sheet win
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Should be back home around 20 minutes after getting in the car. These are the kind of away games I like
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We'll win 2-0. Grealish & Ayew.
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Need to pick up an away win here.
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Not been there before so another ground to tick off. We could do with 3 points here to keep amongst the early pace setters.
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0-2
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I think they are a team who will finish nearer the bottom of the table than the top and I think we may enjoy playing away from home this season as there is less pressure. 1987-1988 all over again perhaps. I am optimistic of a win. I will go 1-2.
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went to a FA cup game here years ago early 80s i think . I only remember breaking down on the way so cant even remember the score thou I think we won maybe 2-1 so Im going for 2-0 and take us u the table Ayew and RM
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I had a very enjoyable lads weekend in Bristol in the late nineties. As for going to Bristol for a football match the only time I went I didn't even go to Bristol. It was to Bath for that cup tie against Bristol Rovers when Big Ron and Big Mal did some 'trash talking' before the tie as I recall. Was it 1-1 at Villa Park and 1-2 or 1-3 to us in the replay? I seem to recall Dean Saunders and Ray Houghton scoring but my memories of it are a bit vague.
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Bristol is great (especially for live music). The only problem I have is being taxed £6-60 to drive home over the Bridge
I also have to check this site before any trip https://www.severnbridge.co.uk/Home.aspx?.Parent=using-the-tolls2&FileName=maintenance-closures8
The Sunday of a Bank Holiday weekend. Nah, no one's gonna want to use the bridge that day, so let's close it for maintenance
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must win
2 nil victory
Are we on must win's already??!!
2-2
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Can't remember the last time I predicted a win with any amount of confidence, but here goes.
Bristol City 1 Villa 2
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Gots to win, going to win. I think. Surely. Right?
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Bristol is great (especially for live music). The only problem I have is being taxed £6-60 to drive home over the Bridge
I also have to check this site before any trip https://www.severnbridge.co.uk/Home.aspx?.Parent=using-the-tolls2&FileName=maintenance-closures8
The Sunday of a Bank Holiday weekend. Nah, no one's gonna want to use the bridge that day, so let's close it for maintenance
Mauratinas nightclub Bristol. Circa 1997. After splitting up with my fiancé I went to Bristol with a mate of mine. We met two lovely friendly young ladies. I was in my mid to late twenties and he was a few years younger. He found it highly amusing that he ended up with the niece and I ended up with 'Auntie Tracey'. I wasn't complaining. 'Auntie Tracey' was very attractive.
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I fear we might find Bristol City a tougher game than the posters so far expect.
I'd be satisfied with a draw, so it's a bonus if we get three points.
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Again difficult to call. Really need to perform over 90 minutes and take chances.
Until we do that - a draw is probably the realistic outcome.
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Tshibola and Jedinak for Westwood and Gardner. This is start of the revival people. 2-0 Villa.
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I would take another clean sheet and a 1 nil win....slowly, slowly, catchy monkey...
UTV
The Doc
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It would be nice to win and lift some spirits... 0-1
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We need a bit of luck or a moment of magic to turn things for us - I honestly think we are one win from the good times coming back. cock on the block - this will be that game. 1-3 Villa
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I'm still scarred enough from the last few years that despite the green shoots of recovery so far I still cannot feel confident in Villa not losing any game of football.
Hopefully by the end of the season I'll be more confident, and the inherent mental weakness of the club that has seemingly seeped into the physical bricks and mortar is completely vanquished.
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I also think that if we get it right on the pitch and take a couple of early chances that we will soon drub someone...
UTV
The Doc
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I also think that if we get it right on the pitch and take a couple of early chances that we will soon drub someone...
UTV
The Doc
I agree. Though we could feasibly have kozak up front, or gestede, or a new signing. That's going to make a massive difference to our chances
I'd still play ayew up front if needed. Bacuna could play right midfield with de laet right back
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We need to make sure we don't patronise clubs like this or be over confident.
Bumpkins 0 Villa 7.
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We need to make sure we don't patronise clubs like this or be over confident.
Bumpkins 0 Villa 7.
Agreed.
We need to show that we respect these cider drinking sister fuckers, but not too much respect mind.
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We need to make sure we don't patronise clubs like this or be over confident.
Bumpkins 0 Villa 7.
Guffaws!
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I can't recall the last time I predicted a Villa win but going for Them 1 Us 2 (McCormack and Ayew)
It's almost getting to the stage where I am looking forward to the matches again...
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The first away win will be crucial. Get it, and you get the feeling we'll really crack on. Again, I fear this will game be too soon for our signings to gel. Either a draw, or a loss due to another lapse of concentration towards the end.
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We will win 2-0.
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I can't recall the last time I predicted a Villa win but going for Them 1 Us 2 (McCormack and Ayew)
I'm hoping for something like this. We score, they equalise. It looks like it's drifting towards a draw, and then someone like McCormack/Ayew pulls something out of the bag.
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Gollini
De Laet Elphick Chester Amavi
Jedinak Tshibola
Ayew Grealish
MCormack
Gestede
Subs:
Bunn
Baker
Bacuna
Westwood
Kozak
RHM
Gardner
Much stronger looking side
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This is a winnable game but also one where we could easily slip up Take A point now but hoping for 3
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Is ba-boom-Tish back for this one or is he still injured ?
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With the two most recent signings, I feel a little more confident going in than say Rotherham.
Really hope we just go out and fucking stuff Bristol City, I know it's not that simple with a new team gelling but those shots off the woodwork all finally going in, isn't it about time we had one of those days where it clicks?
0-1 og off their central defender's arse at the death from a Westwood corner.
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We need to make sure we don't patronise clubs like this or be over confident.
Bumpkins 0 Villa 7.
Smile. Clever, PWS.
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Defeat 4-0, panic stations, sack the manager the new owners needs to stop tweeting. See what Villa has done to me over the years, I am one miserable old bastard.
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Gollini
De Laet Elphick Chester Amavi
Jedinak Tshibola
Ayew Grealish
MCormack
Gestede
Subs:
Bunn
Baker
Bacuna
Westwood
Kozak
RHM
Gardner
Much stronger looking side
That team looks half decent and with the possibility of two more acquisitions I'd be disappointed if we couldn't mount a title challenge.
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Scrappy 1-0 win will do me!
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We have to start winning games like this. A creditable draw will start to see us marooned in the mid table region and we can't afford for that to happen, however early in the season it is.
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0-2 The mighty Villa!
McCormack 28
Ayew 76
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Gollini
De Laet Elphick Chester Amavi
Jedinak Tshibola
Ayew McCormack Grealish
Gestede / Messi
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Gollini
De Laet Elphick Chester Amavi
Jedinak Tshibola
Ayew McCormack Grealish
Gestede / Messi
To me the only part that needs change is up front (hence Messi). Apart from that, I think there's a genuinely top quality side there.
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1-0 away win. McCormack with the goal
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Gollini
De Laet Elphick Chester Amavi
Jedinak Tshibola
Ayew McCormack Grealish
Gestede / Messi
or we could go.
Bunn
Hutton Lescott Richards Cissokho
Westwood Gardner Bacuna
Agbonlahor Gestede Kozak
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Gollini
De Laet Elphick Chester Amavi
Jedinak Tshibola
Ayew McCormack Grealish
Gestede / Messi
To me the only part that needs change is up front (hence Messi). Apart from that, I think there's a genuinely top quality side there.
And there was me thinking you had some genuine ITK.
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Still seen no injury updates re gestede and Tshibola? The former more important here given other options
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0-1 McCormack, UTV.
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Gollini
De Laet Elphick Chester Amavi
Jedinak Tshibola
Ayew McCormack Grealish
Gestede / Messi
or we could go.
Bunn
Hutton Lescott Richards Cissokho
Westwood Gardner Bacuna
Agbonlahor Gestede Kozak
just shows the magnificent depth we have ahem
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We have to start winning games like this. A creditable draw will start to see us marooned in the mid table region and we can't afford for that to happen, however early in the season it is.
this totally
after the worzels, friar tucks and the barcodes we need to be in the top 6
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2 nil to the Villa.
New ground for me ... can't wait.
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On the basis that Amavi, Tish and Gestede are not fit or injured...
Gollini
De Laet Elphick Chester Cissokho
Jedinak
Bacuna Westwood
Grealish
MCormack Ayew
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1-1 or 2-2 or could be 0-0.
Away win.
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This sort of tricky away fixture could define our season. I expect us to pick up a lot of home wins, but whether we can grind out results in games such as this could prove the difference between us getting promotion or not.
Wouldn't go as far as to say its must win at this stage. But I do think a win would put us in a fairly healthy position at this stage. I expect a pretty tidy football match but perhaps not a lot in the way of goal mouth action, and a some nervious defending from ourselves as we bed the new signings in. 1-1 Ayew to get off the mark for the season.
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On the basis that Amavi, Tish and Gestede are not fit or injured...
Gollini
De Laet Elphick Chester Cissokho
Jedinak
Bacuna Westwood
Grealish
MCormack Ayew
I like the diamond option for many of our players though I don't think that midfield three works too well. Westwood wouldn't be comfortable on the left of the three.
Either way, I can't see any sign we'll ditch the current formation. On the same assumption above, I'd go:
Gollini - de Laet elphick Chester cissokho - bacuna Westwood Jedinak grealish - McCormack - ayew
Subs: bunn baker Richards Gardner Green kozak RHM
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On the basis that Amavi, Tish and Gestede are not fit or injured...
Gollini
De Laet Elphick Chester Cissokho
Jedinak
Bacuna Westwood
Grealish
MCormack Ayew
I like the diamond option for many of our players though I don't think that midfield three works too well. Westwood wouldn't be comfortable on the left of the three.
Either way, I can't see any sign we'll ditch the current formation. On the same assumption above, I'd go:
Gollini - de Laet elphick Chester cissokho - bacuna Westwood Jedinak grealish - McCormack - ayew
Subs: bunn baker Richards Gardner Green kozak RHM
ditch westwood for amavi and that looks ok
its a must win for me as we need to start killing teams off as we dont want to be 6-8 points of the top two by mid september
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I'd go.....
Gollini
Bacuna Elphick Chester Cissokho
Westwood Jedinak
Ayew McCormack Grealish
Gestede (if fit)
Subs: Bunn, Baker, De Laet, Amavi, Tshibola, Green, RHM
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We need to make sure we don't patronise clubs like this or be over confident.
Bumpkins 0 Villa 7.
Agreed.
We need to show that we respect these cider drinking sister fuckers, but not too much respect mind.
Should I avoid threads about this fixture ?
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You're not from Brizzle are you?
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You're not from Brizzle are you?
25 miles away, so its as local a match as I'm going to get (apart from when Villa play Brizzle Rovers in the odd cup or pre-season)
I'm from the little bit of the West Country that acts as a buffer between England and Wales
Yer tis, Zurry (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Forest+of+Dean/@51.7855189,-2.7416207,11z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x4871bbac8be19677:0x2cdf3e955b6917e8!8m2!3d51.7999835!4d-2.5519169)
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Away win. This will probably come back and bite me in the backside, but even my best Brummie pessimist gene can't beat up my optimistic gene at the moment.
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or we could go.
Bunn
Hutton Lescott Richards Cissokho
Westwood Gardner Bacuna
Agbonlahor Gestede Kozak
AAAAARRRGGGHHH, NOOOOOOOOOOOO................Woke up in a cold sweat.......thought for one ugly moment we were back in last season.
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1-2
Kodija definitely scores just so Twitter can go into meltdown over why we haven't signed him yet :-)
Luckily Ayew & Elphick for us :-)
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Are Gestede and Tshibola definitely out? Presume so and our bench looks very weak as a result.
Bacuna has been fine at RB so far but looks like he will have to play in midfield given lack of options, Green doesn't look ready yet either. I'd expect Cissokho to hold his position but with Jedinak in really think we need to get Amavi and Grealish going down the left. I'd be on for giving Gabby one last shot in this game but can't see it happening.
Gollini, De Laet, Elphick, Chester, Amavi, Bacuna, Jedinak, Westwood, Grealish, Mccormack, Ayew
Subs Bunn, Baker, Hutton, Gardner, Green, RHM, Cissokho, Lyden
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RDM says gestede and Tshibola definitely out. I agree w the team above on that basis, tho I'd play cissokho and kozak probably gets a place on the bench
Whether ayew can do the no 9 thing and link w McCormack is key. Hope they've been focusing on this in training. Surely he can't play kozak from the start
My confidence in a win is quite diminished given our lack of options in attach. If RHM was banging them in for the youth team he'd maybe have a claim, but I can't see that.
Our set pieces have been much improved of late. Could really do with elphick getting on the end of one of those McCormack crosses.
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We just need to take advantage of our chances. We are not losing either match if we score a couple of the chances in the last couple of games. The defence is looking a lot more solid than before. Most sides in the division won't be able to come back against us to win if we score first. This isn't the PL, and the talent across the division is a lot more watered down.
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We need to make sure we don't patronise clubs like this or be over confident.
Bumpkins 0 Villa 7.
Agreed.
We need to show that we respect these cider drinking sister fuckers, but not too much respect mind.
Should I avoid threads about this fixture ?
Oooh arrrrr ya?
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We need to make sure we don't patronise clubs like this or be over confident.
Bumpkins 0 Villa 7.
Agreed.
We need to show that we respect these cider drinking sister fuckers, but not too much respect mind.
Should I avoid threads about this fixture ?
Oooh arrrrr ya?
I better had to me darlings
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Newcastle went there and won. We need to do likewise.
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As much as I wanted Kozak to prove he could do a job for us after watching him look totally lost last game he either will take months to get up to speed or he will never be of any use. If he starts on next game I really can't see us winning.
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Ayew will play up front I think, Bacuna pushes up to wing and De Last at right back. Draw at the very least. 1-1.
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Ayew will play up front I think, Bacuna pushes up to wing and De Last at right back. Draw at the very least. 1-1.
It has to be this id have thought. Green off the bench at some stage. Big premium on ayew there. But I'd like to think he can do it
I was thinking one centre forward in and we're done. But he might want a winger in too in order to have two players for every position:
Ayew McCormack grealish plus bacuna green NEW SIGNING
Gestede and NEW STRIKER
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I suspect we will go with:
Gollini
Cissokho, Chester, Elphick, De Laet
Grealish, Jedinak, Westwood, Bacuna
Ayew & McCormack
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I suspect we will go with:
Gollini
Cissokho, Chester, Elphick, De Laet
Grealish, Jedinak, Westwood, Bacuna
Ayew & McCormack
Cissokho has never massively impressed me but he has looked good so far this season in my opinion.
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Gollini
De Laet Elphick Chester Amavi
Jedinak Tshibola
Ayew McCormack Grealish
Gestede / Messi
or we could go.
Bunn
Hutton Lescott Richards Cissokho
Westwood Gardner Bacuna
Agbonlahor Gestede Kozak
Are you Eric Black?
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Villa to edge it 2-1
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Ayew will play up front I think, Bacuna pushes up to wing and De Last at right back. Draw at the very least. 1-1.
Agree with it being bacuna pushing up, with Jedinak in the middle ahead of Gardner and Ayew up front, but 2-0 Villa for me
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I just really hope Kozak doesn't play
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I think Kozak needs to be given a chance
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I suspect we will go with:
Gollini
Cissokho, Chester, Elphick, De Laet
Grealish, Jedinak, Westwood, Bacuna
Ayew & McCormack
I think that is the most likely selection with Amavi coming on late.
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I think Kozak needs to be given a chance
and me just not as a footballer
bugger me how many chances are we meant to give players who are blatently not good enough?
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I think Kozak needs to be given a chance
He's obviously a decent finisher who's clever at being in the right place at the right time I wonder if he'll ever properly recover from those injuries.
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I don't think Kozak has recovered fully but I suspect it is a mental thing. His break was a very bad one but then to have to have it surgically rebroken and reset must have taken a toll on him. He plays like his heart is not in the game. Not good to see in a player.
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We're developing nicely, but really need a win today.
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I think Kozak needs to be given a chance
and me just not as a footballer
bugger me how many chances are we meant to give players who are blatently not good enough?
Kozak looked plenty good enough before the injuries.
Personally though I'd bring Green in and play either McCormack or Ayew upfront.
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Think it has to be ayew. Don't think McCormack can play no 9
But I'd play bacuna midfield, especially away from home. Grealish and green either side of a four man midfield is too exposed for me at the moment
Maybe once Jedinak and Tshibola get their feet under the table properly they can provide enough cover
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I think he can play upfront and certainly has goals in him, but not as a traditional number 9.
I'd keep the 4231 formation and bring Grealish central if we push McCormack further forward.
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We've dominated the last two games for long periods but only got 2 points to show for it, time to get points on the board now.
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0-7. Fuck the fuckers.
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Bristol's a great city...was there in the week. Probably my favourite one in the South.
Can see this being a draw again. I'm not too concerned as the championship is still congested and Newcastle playing Brighton today so points will be dropped from at least one of them.
Bristol will test our defence today....they have Kodjia who a lot wanted...Lee Tomlin who was a very good player for boro at this level and also Tammy Abraham who's scored a couple already. Big strong forward on loan from Chelsea.
A clean sheet today would be a very good sign for the season ahead from the back 4. I think Bristol City are a decent outside tip for the play offs. They score a lot of late goals aswell and pushed Newcastle last week.
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We're developing nicely, but really need a win today.
Would be a real boost going into the break wouldn't it. No Tish or Gestede today, but good to see Jedinak is available.
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Gollini
De Laet Elphick Chester Amavi
Jedinak Tshibola
Ayew McCormack Grealish
Gestede / Messi
or we could go.
Bunn
Hutton Lescott Richards Cissokho
Westwood Gardner Bacuna
Agbonlahor Gestede Kozak
Are you Eric Black?
Yes, that's very Black-esque.
Kozak and Agbonlahor should be kept well away. I'd play Hepburn Murphy.
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I think Kozak needs to be given a chance
and me just not as a footballer
bugger me how many chances are we meant to give players who are blatently not good enough?
I agree.
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I want to see Gestede as the bench option. I like him coming on causing a whole bunch of panic, but when we're trying to build our game in the first half he just looks like a big tree getting in the way.
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tits nil - rampaging gallant victorious villa 3
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Agbonlahor won't play. To see him starting would be demoralising after all the work gone into rebuilding.
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2-0 Villa - our Ross with both
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is there any audio coverage?
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Definitely fancy McCormack to score
Need the keeper not to throw one in this week
Do think they're a goal threat though
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is there any audio coverage?
Yes should be on the OS in Matchday
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I do feel a little more confident having watched Jedinak in the pre match build up
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Outside of a fit Amavi and Tshibola I think he's picked the best side possible. Ayew and Ross up front it seems
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It's the line up almost everyone expected. Not sure there was a credible alternative really.
Wonder exactly how ayew and McCormack will line up. I'd imagine 9 and 10 respectively?
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No kodjia for Bristol
Moving to derby
For £14m . . . Fuck me
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is there any audio coverage?
Yes should be on the OS in Matchday
Live commentary on FM BBC WM and AVTV on the OS. Just heard the line up on WM - De Laet in at right back with Bacuna moving to midfield
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No Kodjia for Bristol? Is he injured?