No. They're starting to like the sound of their own voice.
No. They're starting to like the sound of their own voice.
Far from it mate. Non of us involved in this protest group want to be doing this. There are only three home games left this season though and as we have no desire to have to protest at the start of next season we want to try to keep the focus on Randy Lerner now, call on him to make a statement regarding the concerns we have raised in an open letter to him and also get him to action the three requests with in that open letter. By protesting now we'd like to think it will help ensure the club is in much better shape next season which will mean there is no need to protest.
No. They're starting to like the sound of their own voice.Bit rude.
No. They're starting to like the sound of their own voice.Bit rude.
I think the protests have been very successful The banners especially was a huge effort which I'm very grateful for.
No. They're starting to like the sound of their own voice.Bit rude.
I think the protests have been very successful The banners especially was a huge effort which I'm very grateful for.
The banners had a point to them because it was visual and being on the telly it had an impact. With the new board in and a possibly a new manager soon, they need to take a step back. If it was just Tom Fox still there, then yes, fine. He's not, 4 or 5 people have come in and they still want people to protest. It's time (I feel) to give the board the chance to correct the mess we've been left in.
No. They're starting to like the sound of their own voice.Bit rude.
I think the protests have been very successful The banners especially was a huge effort which I'm very grateful for.
The banners had a point to them because it was visual and being on the telly it had an impact. With the new board in and a possibly a new manager soon, they need to take a step back. If it was just Tom Fox still there, then yes, fine. He's not, 4 or 5 people have come in and they still want people to protest. It's time (I feel) to give the board the chance to correct the mess we've been left in.
I'm guessing the only thing to protest about now is trying to get Lerner out. Which is funny because he wants out too.
In fairness the board are now making steps to correct the past, too little too late of course. The next protest should be when we appoint Ian Holloway as our new manager ;)
I think they're running out of ideas. As Edwyn Collins sang, 'too many protest singers, not enough protest songs.'You come up with something then
Booing the players is a rare thing these days but we need to let the culprits know they are not welcome at villa park.
Please do not address Clampy as "mate". He is an old sweat who has served his time. He is "Clampy" or if you are feeling very, very brave, "Clamps" but not mate.
This might be one of the only chances to visually and hopefully iconically show our displeasure at Villa's impending relegation. Anyone who wants to protest that shocking state of affairs has every right to in my book. Also, fair play for actually getting up and starting something. Everyone has ideas, doing it is something else.Well said.
I think the Bournemouth match should see the players getting the wrath, there's a good chance we could be relegated on Saturday and once it is confirmed some of the fringe players might get a game and it wouldn't be fair on them to have to play in such an atmosphere. Let Richards, Agbonlahor, Lescott etc know how highly they are thought of.
No. They're starting to like the sound of their own voice.
I think the Bournemouth match should see the players getting the wrath, there's a good chance we could be relegated on Saturday and once it is confirmed some of the fringe players might get a game and it wouldn't be fair on them to have to play in such an atmosphere. Let Richards, Agbonlahor, Lescott etc know how highly they are thought of.
I'd love to see the game held up while they clear thousands of white towels from the pitch.
I'd love to see the game held up while they clear thousands of white towels from the pitch.
I'd love to see the game held up while they clear thousands of white towels from the pitch.
Agreed. Maybe for the Southampton game?
How about everyone who cares dearly about the the great name of Aston Villa and the pride we have in it, buy a ticket, pack the place out and create non-stop noise for 90 minutes in what could be the lowest point in our recent history.I think they're running out of ideas. As Edwyn Collins sang, 'too many protest singers, not enough protest songs.'You come up with something then
It's all coming across as a bit Princess Diana to me, clubs get relegated every year.Not this club, though (although the custodian has had enough warnings over the last five years).
It's all coming across as a bit Princess Diana to me, clubs get relegated every year.
It's all coming across as a bit Princess Diana to me, clubs get relegated every year.
How? Unless there is a mass outbreak of public crying and maudlin behaviour it's nowt like it. People are pissed off and angry at how it's been allowed to happen, it's not like those with the ability to prevent it happening hadn't been warned.
No. They're starting to like the sound of their own voice.
Or they're doing something which has had a modicum of success. Last Saturday's campaign was successful and picked up by just about every media outlet. You hoping to get someone to notice you by coming out with this comment? It smacks of 'please please look at me'. If anyone is liking the sound of their own voice it's you. You may not like it, you may not support it, and you may even be right in your negativity - but why be snide?
After watching a documentary on the Second World War, I'm going to build a full size glider during the game and fly over the pitch in the 74th minute.Ah, you have a plan to escape.
Robbie Savage wasn't predicting her death on Celebrity Deathwatch for three years running either.
If only we could break into their cars and plant stink bombs which go off when they reach a speed of 74 mph on their way anywhere for ever and ever or at the very least 6 years.
It's just too confusing.
Originally it was out the door on 74 for 3 games, then we stopped for a game, then we did banners out on 74, and now it's something else.
The Guardian actually reported that the banners thing went well, but that no one left. No one was supposed to leave because the banner thing replaced the leaving, but that part of the plan obviously got a bit lost in translation for some.
Now we're going to keep the banners, but come in a bit late, which we have tried before & it was a non event even with a bigger crowd.
I'd just say they need to stop tinkering with it so much. It's bad enough that every suggestion is met with loads of people suggesting something else, without the people that are organising it changing it every 5 minutes to add to the puzzle.
I have no problem with people who want to protest, but you don't have to dream up something new every week.
Also - the trophy we won 7 times? It's now awarded to the team who wins the division we're headed for. So the whole premise, convoluted as it was anyway, is basically flawed.
The rest of us just want to kill somebody with an axe and play with their blood.
No. They're starting to like the sound of their own voice.
Far from it mate. Non of us involved in this protest group want to be doing this. There are only three home games left this season though and as we have no desire to have to protest at the start of next season we want to try to keep the focus on Randy Lerner now, call on him to make a statement regarding the concerns we have raised in an open letter to him and also get him to action the three requests with in that open letter. By protesting now we'd like to think it will help ensure the club is in much better shape next season which will mean there is no need to protest.
I disagree. There's been changes to the board and on the managerial side and whilst there's a lot of hard work to be done, it's a start and hopefully a step in the right direction. Leaving the new people to get on with it for now would be the best way forward.
No. They're starting to like the sound of their own voice.
Far from it mate. Non of us involved in this protest group want to be doing this. There are only three home games left this season though and as we have no desire to have to protest at the start of next season we want to try to keep the focus on Randy Lerner now, call on him to make a statement regarding the concerns we have raised in an open letter to him and also get him to action the three requests with in that open letter. By protesting now we'd like to think it will help ensure the club is in much better shape next season which will mean there is no need to protest.
I disagree. There's been changes to the board and on the managerial side and whilst there's a lot of hard work to be done, it's a start and hopefully a step in the right direction. Leaving the new people to get on with it for now would be the best way forward.
Great. We're still getting relegated with the worst team in memory so I think I'll wait and see if the new board makes any difference first. Bernstein or whoever it was wittering on about the importance of an English boss suggests to me they've learned nothing.
I think they're running out of ideas. As Edwyn Collins sang, 'too many protest singers, not enough protest songs.'
Don't know if this has been mentioned before but does anyone think that protesting might be actually putting off potential buyers?No. Buyers are much more savvy than that.
"Yeah, mate. Can't be arsed in dealing with that if it all goes wrong".
Just a thought.
Don't know if this has been mentioned before but does anyone think that protesting might be actually putting off potential buyers?Well if the owners were thinking they might be needed to be protested against at some point I wouldn't want them anyway.
"Yeah, mate. Can't be arsed in dealing with that if it all goes wrong".
Just a thought.
No. They're starting to like the sound of their own voice.
Far from it mate. Non of us involved in this protest group want to be doing this. There are only three home games left this season though and as we have no desire to have to protest at the start of next season we want to try to keep the focus on Randy Lerner now, call on him to make a statement regarding the concerns we have raised in an open letter to him and also get him to action the three requests with in that open letter. By protesting now we'd like to think it will help ensure the club is in much better shape next season which will mean there is no need to protest.
I disagree. There's been changes to the board and on the managerial side and whilst there's a lot of hard work to be done, it's a start and hopefully a step in the right direction. Leaving the new people to get on with it for now would be the best way forward.
Great. We're still getting relegated with the worst team in memory so I think I'll wait and see if the new board makes any difference first. Bernstein or whoever it was wittering on about the importance of an English boss suggests to me they've learned nothing.
Of course we have to wait. Where's the fairness in having a pop at the board when some of them have only been there for a couple of months?
No. They're starting to like the sound of their own voice.
Far from it mate. Non of us involved in this protest group want to be doing this. There are only three home games left this season though and as we have no desire to have to protest at the start of next season we want to try to keep the focus on Randy Lerner now, call on him to make a statement regarding the concerns we have raised in an open letter to him and also get him to action the three requests with in that open letter. By protesting now we'd like to think it will help ensure the club is in much better shape next season which will mean there is no need to protest.
I disagree. There's been changes to the board and on the managerial side and whilst there's a lot of hard work to be done, it's a start and hopefully a step in the right direction. Leaving the new people to get on with it for now would be the best way forward.
Great. We're still getting relegated with the worst team in memory so I think I'll wait and see if the new board makes any difference first. Bernstein or whoever it was wittering on about the importance of an English boss suggests to me they've learned nothing.
Of course we have to wait. Where's the fairness in having a pop at the board when some of them have only been there for a couple of months?
Lets not forget, these protests aren't a council run thing, it's just a group of fans who have stepped up. They don't owe anyone anything but as far as I can see are just trying to help.
Lets not forget, these protests aren't a council run thing, it's just a group of fans who have stepped up. They don't owe anyone anything but as far as I can see are just trying to help.
And most importantly, it's a long overdue "fuck you" to the wankers who have heaped misery and humiliation upon them through sheer neglect, stupidity and arrogance for five tedious years.
No. They're starting to like the sound of their own voice.
Far from it mate. Non of us involved in this protest group want to be doing this. There are only three home games left this season though and as we have no desire to have to protest at the start of next season we want to try to keep the focus on Randy Lerner now, call on him to make a statement regarding the concerns we have raised in an open letter to him and also get him to action the three requests with in that open letter. By protesting now we'd like to think it will help ensure the club is in much better shape next season which will mean there is no need to protest.
I disagree. There's been changes to the board and on the managerial side and whilst there's a lot of hard work to be done, it's a start and hopefully a step in the right direction. Leaving the new people to get on with it for now would be the best way forward.
Great. We're still getting relegated with the worst team in memory so I think I'll wait and see if the new board makes any difference first. Bernstein or whoever it was wittering on about the importance of an English boss suggests to me they've learned nothing.
Of course we have to wait. Where's the fairness in having a pop at the board when some of them have only been there for a couple of months?
Er, I think the protests are mostly about the owner. The one common denominator though the villa decline. If he had been more hands on for the last four seasons (being kind) he'd have seen Fox and various other personnel were not up to the job. He wasn't paying attention to the club he owns and this is where we are as a result. The new board with football knowledge is four years too late.
I'm afarid not. I am taking mny 6 year old to his second game and I don't want him to miss any of it - however awful it is on the pitch!
I'm afarid not. I am taking mny 6 year old to his second game and I don't want him to miss any of it - however awful it is on the pitch!
Good luck, the only Villa win either of my kids have ever seen was when I took my daughter to see us beat Millwall Ladies at The Den last year. My son wouldn't be bothered if he never saw us play again. When I was the same age, Villa were flying up the divisions and exciting everyone who saw them. That's why I really fucking hate Lerner - he's lost us a generation of Villa fans. And I'm not talking about glory hunters but potential fans - kids of loyal fans - who, understandably, don't want to watch some absolutely dreadful shit every week.
This will be on my mind when I'm letting them all know how I feel at the next matches I'm going to. Organised, spontaneous, walkouts, chucking stuff, shouting abuse, banners. Do the fucking lot from now until the end of the season. And it still won't be enough to convey my anger.
I'm sure the players also realise how badly they've let us down
Being booed onto the pitch by your own fans, barracked from the sidelines for 90 minutes, chants of your not fit to wear the shirt - do you think they can't hear it? do you think they don't read the papers or listen to the abusive calls on the radio or the embarrassing post mortems on match of the day? I doubt there is one of these lads that doesn't feel ashamed of the part they've played in all this.I'm sure the players also realise how badly they've let us down
Really?
Being booed onto the pitch by your own fans, barracked from the sidelines for 90 minutes, chants of your not fit to wear the shirt - do you think they can't hear it? do you think they don't read the papers or listen to the abusive calls on the radio or the embarrassing post mortems on match of the day? I doubt there is one of these lads that doesn't feel ashamed of the part they've played in all this.I'm sure the players also realise how badly they've let us down
Really?
Being booed onto the pitch by your own fans, barracked from the sidelines for 90 minutes, chants of your not fit to wear the shirt - do you think they can't hear it? do you think they don't read the papers or listen to the abusive calls on the radio or the embarrassing post mortems on match of the day? I doubt there is one of these lads that doesn't feel ashamed of the part they've played in all this.I'm sure the players also realise how badly they've let us down
Really?
Of course they hear it, I just think they honestly believe that the fans are singing it about other members of the team. Otherwise, why haven't the idle pricks done anything about it? I expect them to get even worse stick in the forthcoming games, inshalla
Being booed onto the pitch by your own fans, barracked from the sidelines for 90 minutes, chants of your not fit to wear the shirt - do you think they can't hear it? do you think they don't read the papers or listen to the abusive calls on the radio or the embarrassing post mortems on match of the day? I doubt there is one of these lads that doesn't feel ashamed of the part they've played in all this.I'm sure the players also realise how badly they've let us down
Really?
Of course they hear it, I just think they honestly believe that the fans are singing it about other members of the team. Otherwise, why haven't the idle pricks done anything about it? I expect them to get even worse stick in the forthcoming games, inshalla
So how does this protest, or any of the others, let any of them know that we mean them? It doesn't do anymore than the other stuff.
The banners was fine. Watch the match, hold up a pre-printed message on 74 mins or write your own to them. Added value of paper plane competition for the last quarter of an hour if you don't leave at that point. I don't know why we have to keep changing it.
I think it's the 'something new every week' element that underlies Clampy's comment which people took offence too (liking the sound of their own voice). I totally get why people want to protest even if I can't always see the point & fair play to anyone who tries to do something, but it just needs to be a protest, it doesn't have to be a way of showing how many different kinds of protest you can think of.
Personally though, at this stage, I think I'd just like to try & remember this is what I do for fun, & laugh like I did at Alan Hutton when we shouted 'Shoot!' & stop being so angry like it's the end of the world. It isn't. Teams get relegated. Sometimes it's you.
Teams get relegated. Sometimes it's you.
Teams get relegated. Sometimes it's you.
At least we can look forward to Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Manchesters City and United, Everton and Tottenham getting relegated soon. Won't be long now. Get your popcorn.
Teams get relegated. Sometimes it's you.
At least we can look forward to Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Manchesters City and United, Everton and Tottenham getting relegated soon. Won't be long now. Get your popcorn.
I was talking to a bluenose last weekend. He told me Villa are the biggest club north of London, and south of Liverpool. He went on to tell me Villa fans' trouble is our expectations are too high. So what exactly should fans of the biggest club between London and Liverpool expect? At the very least, when you've been established in the top division for over 20 years, and had hundreds of millions to play with, you'd expect to stay in that division. Minimum requirement. That's why I don't buy this 'it happens to every team' line. If that's true, I really can't wait for Man United's day. That'll be soon, right?
I was talking to a bluenose last weekend. He told me Villa are the biggest club north of London, and south of Liverpool. He went on to tell me Villa fans' trouble is our expectations are too high. So what exactly should fans of the biggest club between London and Liverpool expect? At the very least, when you've been established in the top division for over 20 years, and had hundreds of millions to play with, you'd expect to stay in that division. Minimum requirement. That's why I don't buy this 'it happens to every team' line. If that's true, I really can't wait for Man United's day. That'll be soon, right?
You don't have to as Amfy said "Teams get relegated. Sometimes it's you" she never said it happens to every team.
They all know we're not happy with them, so we don't need to tell them. So presumably, should we ever score a goal again, we won't have to celebrate it because they already know we're happy. Just pay the money, sit there, buy programmes and refreshments and merchandise and be goodfanscustomers.
I was talking to a bluenose last weekend. He told me Villa are the biggest club north of London, and south of Liverpool. He went on to tell me Villa fans' trouble is our expectations are too high. So what exactly should fans of the biggest club between London and Liverpool expect? At the very least, when you've been established in the top division for over 20 years, and had hundreds of millions to play with, you'd expect to stay in that division. Minimum requirement. That's why I don't buy this 'it happens to every team' line. If that's true, I really can't wait for Man United's day. That'll be soon, right?
You don't have to as Amfy said "Teams get relegated. Sometimes it's you" she never said it happens to every team.
I won't argue the semantics, but I'd love to see about-to-be-relegated Arsenal, Liverpool or even Tottenham fans saying "well, sometimes it's us" while causing an earthquake in China with a massive seismic shoulder shrug.
It's not just Amfy, I've heard the 'relegation happens' line elsewhere. It does happen, to clubs that allow it.
The difference with these clubs is the protests would have started yonks ago if it was them. The club has done really well in lowering fans expectations We haven't behaved like a big club since we signed Bent. It's unforgivable and Lerner deserves all the shit he's gettingI was talking to a bluenose last weekend. He told me Villa are the biggest club north of London, and south of Liverpool. He went on to tell me Villa fans' trouble is our expectations are too high. So what exactly should fans of the biggest club between London and Liverpool expect? At the very least, when you've been established in the top division for over 20 years, and had hundreds of millions to play with, you'd expect to stay in that division. Minimum requirement. That's why I don't buy this 'it happens to every team' line. If that's true, I really can't wait for Man United's day. That'll be soon, right?
You don't have to as Amfy said "Teams get relegated. Sometimes it's you" she never said it happens to every team.
I won't argue the semantics, but I'd love to see about-to-be-relegated Arsenal, Liverpool or even Tottenham fans saying "well, sometimes it's us" while causing an earthquake in China with a massive seismic shoulder shrug.
The banners at the weekend got a ton of press, and so at the very least it's shown the world that we give a shit. People who don't want to join in don't have to, but I'm glad that they're trying something, anything.
Being booed onto the pitch by your own fans, barracked from the sidelines for 90 minutes, chants of your not fit to wear the shirt - do you think they can't hear it? do you think they don't read the papers or listen to the abusive calls on the radio or the embarrassing post mortems on match of the day? I doubt there is one of these lads that doesn't feel ashamed of the part they've played in all this.I'm sure the players also realise how badly they've let us down
Really?
Of course they hear it, I just think they honestly believe that the fans are singing it about other members of the team. Otherwise, why haven't the idle pricks done anything about it? I expect them to get even worse stick in the forthcoming games, inshalla
So how does this protest, or any of the others, let any of them know that we mean them? It doesn't do anymore than the other stuff.
The banners was fine. Watch the match, hold up a pre-printed message on 74 mins or write your own to them. Added value of paper plane competition for the last quarter of an hour if you don't leave at that point. I don't know why we have to keep changing it.
I think it's the 'something new every week' element that underlies Clampy's comment which people took offence too (liking the sound of their own voice). I totally get why people want to protest even if I can't always see the point & fair play to anyone who tries to do something, but it just needs to be a protest, it doesn't have to be a way of showing how many different kinds of protest you can think of.
Personally though, at this stage, I think I'd just like to try & remember this is what I do for fun, & laugh like I did at Alan Hutton when we shouted 'Shoot!' & stop being so angry like it's the end of the world. It isn't. Teams get relegated. Sometimes it's you.
I'm suggesting that everyone does what they want and makes whatever point they want. Clampy can stick his hands in his ears and try and ignore it for all I care. Personally though, I'm not prepared to accept what we've been dished up in the last few seasons and would prefer to articulate that by giving the players and earful of abuse. If they don't like it, fine, it's not the end of the world.
Teams get relegated. Sometimes it's you.
At least we can look forward to Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Manchesters City and United, Everton and Tottenham getting relegated soon. Won't be long now. Get your popcorn.
4 of them have been relegated in my time. Everton dodged it under dubious circumstances.
It's not just Amfy, I've heard the 'relegation happens' line elsewhere. It does happen, to clubs that allow it.
Well it does. For anyone over 60 this will be our 5th relegation. It's shit but it does happen, even to us.
And no one has said don't protest or just take relegation and say nothing. Most saying that they think this stay away for 7 mins idea is a bit crap, which it is in my opinion for reasons i've said earlier in the thread, have said the banner protest was great and a success.
getting relegated was ok.There it is
getting relegated was ok.There it is
In black and white. I have quoted you it's easy😥
I'm neither in favour or against the protests; but when I read them defined them as a success? I question what the definition of success is.
I'm neither in favour or against the protests; but when I read them defined them as a success? I question what the definition of success is.
That's the thing about modern internet-based protest. Success isn't about getting what you wanted, it's how good your protest looked.
I'm neither in favour or against the protests; but when I read them defined them as a success? I question what the definition of success is.
That's the thing about modern internet-based protest. Success isn't about getting what you wanted, it's how good your protest looked.
I'd argue that making a protest visually striking makes it instantly apparent that people are actually protesting. If it 'looked good' then perhaps people will remember it and talk about it which is to say the protest highlighted our issues.
And that's my point. It looked good. People talked about it. And nothing changed.
And that's my point. It looked good. People talked about it. And nothing changed.
As others have pointed out, why should 'change' be a barometer of success?
How about writing "prepared" on banners for Bournemouth. Let cock-end Lerner know how we feel about his latest pisstake
How about writing "prepared" on banners for Bournemouth. Let cock-end Lerner know how we feel about his latest pisstake
Fuck me, another bout of semantic jousting.
What I don't get is lambasting or ridiculing the group rather than just putting across an opinion and letting them, and those that wish to follow the protest, just get on with it. It's for the right reasons after all.
What I don't get is lambasting or ridiculing the group rather than just putting across an opinion and letting them, and those that wish to follow the protest, just get on with it. It's for the right reasons after all.
Exactly - well said.
And that's my point. It looked good. People talked about it. And nothing changed.
As others have pointed out, why should 'change' be a barometer of success?
Because the protest organisers have said they want change. If they didn't and all they wanted to do was complain about what's happening then they're a success. If you're making demands then if you don't get what you want then equally you've failed.
And that's my point. It looked good. People talked about it. And nothing changed.
As others have pointed out, why should 'change' be a barometer of success?
Because the protest organisers have said they want change. If they didn't and all they wanted to do was complain about what's happening then they're a success. If you're making demands then if you don't get what you want then equally you've failed.
But you have to shoot to score a goal Dave. It might not go in but if you don't have a pop you'll get nout.
What sneering, lambasting etc is that then? A couple of people said days ago that they like the sound of their voices and that's it. Lots of others like me have said this idea is crap but the banner protest was great and worked very well and they should have continued that and built momentum with it for the last few games.I think there was plenty of sneering prior to the original protest (out the door on 74) - stuff along the lines of "what are they doing that for?" "Lerner wants to sell" and "it won't change anything."
What sneering, lambasting etc is that then? A couple of people said days ago that they like the sound of their voices and that's it. Lots of others like me have said this idea is crap but the banner protest was great and worked very well and they should have continued that and built momentum with it for the last few games.I think there was plenty of sneering prior to the original protest (out the door on 74) - stuff along the lines of "what are they doing that for?" "Lerner wants to sell" and "it won't change anything."
Sometimes there's no harm in giving the target of the protesters a little metaphorical dig in the ribs. And to be fair both protests got a fair amount of coverage.
And that's my point. It looked good. People talked about it. And nothing changed.
As others have pointed out, why should 'change' be a barometer of success?
Because the protest organisers have said they want change. If they didn't and all they wanted to do was complain about what's happening then they're a success. If you're making demands then if you don't get what you want then equally you've failed.
Those stupid stop the war protesters, hundreds of thousands of them. Failures. If only they'd said "We're mad about the war, but carry on if you must!" we could have considered them a success.
They should have just done the banners again,
Okay but Dave W's point is still valid as was yours Risso in what we measure as the barometer of success. We won't get Villa sold but media interest becomes pressure for change. That has happened more to protect an investment than anything but it is as far removed as the Poll Tax riots as it is from them liking the sound if their own voices. But it is being done for the right reason and not for the sake of it.
Lerner can't send in the tanks to convey his legitimacy, he's used Krulak instead, but in the football world a few wins and she'll be right. That's the flippant nature of football supporting.
Okay but Dave W's point is still valid as was yours Risso in what we measure as the barometer of success. We won't get Villa sold but media interest becomes pressure for change. That has happened more to protect an investment than anything but it is as far removed as the Poll Tax riots as it is from them liking the sound if their own voices. But it is being done for the right reason and not for the sake of it.
Lerner can't send in the tanks to convey his legitimacy, he's used Krulak instead, but in the football world a few wins and she'll be right. That's the flippant nature of football supporting.
Fair enough, but why is there a time limit on these things as well?
As far as I recall, the protestors requests were that Lerner gave a statement about still wanting to sell, backing the club until he does, and puttibc a proper board in place.
Im all for the protests. Sure we're not gonna change much but it's about time the fans spoke up and registered their disgust at the way Lerner has humiliated us. Keep it going everyone.