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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on January 23, 2016, 04:47:59 PM
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Let rip.
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Charlie Austin scores - Man Ure 0 - Saints 1
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better of two shit teams
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Dire. We are still fucked.
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Garde's a very good manager. Controlled the match without looking close to losing.
A proper striker well short all season.
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A terrible game decided by the lack of a refereeing decision.
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We were much the better side with no real threat in the box or final third. But Garde has made us look a lot more solid overall and that gives me hope for next season whichever division we end up being in.
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By far the better team with absoloutely no cutting edge.
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Sounds like we could have won that. A missed opportunity.
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Another game ticked off before its mathematically confirmed.
That's all I can say really
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Such a shame that we look so much better as a team but pose no goal threat whatsoever. Can't fault the commitment and spirit either.
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Dire - well we kept WBA lumping balls, and we defended well. We kept possesion, we actually played football. We couldn't score given us 400 minutes more.
SPLASH for a striker
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Terrible referee.
Everything else was bad too.. did west brom register a shot on goal?
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unbeaten in five onwards and upwards
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Going down with a whimper.
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If our board didn't have such a defeatist attitude and we'd have got a goalscorer in at the start of the window, we'd have a chance. As it stands, we're fucked.
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Iffy feed lost me the first 60 mins. But I think we were easily the better side. I think we've turned a corner. And I'm warming to Mr Garde.
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Shocking decision not to give the pen. West Brazilian Albion nowhere near as good as they would like to believe and to not even force a shot on target vs us is laughable. If Benteke had in this match we'd have won it.
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Very poor game.
Positives - Clean sheet and another unbeaten. Geye played very well I thought, Gil not too far behind him. The teams around us didn't go any further in front. That's about it really.
Negatives - We need wins, there was very little quality. Ayew was poor today.
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Dire - well we kept WBA lumping balls, and we defended well. We kept possesion, we actually played football. We couldn't score given us 400 minutes more.
SPLASH for a striker
Oh - and that includes the Ref being a pile of shit.
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Sandwell couldn't beat our worst team in a quarter of a century at home.
Maybe they will make Wolves their rivals for the rest fo the season?
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So dissapointed with Richards, time and time again he had the chance to attack down the right. He either did not move or just played the ball back inside.
One huge sulk.
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We were the better of teams struggling for quality. It was crying out for one moment of magic to settle it and I thought Gil was going to a few times.
Some absolutely atrocious crosses from Bacuna in that first half.
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We should go for charlie austin..... Oh wait....
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15 shots to 4 and they didn't have one single shot on target. The way I see this is we might be going down but I would rather that knowing we try to play a bit of football than watch boring shit every week just to stay in the league
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While we are more solid and organised, we really are absolutely gash from 25 yards out.
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Not exactly Real Madrid but we were by far the better team, and if the ref had given the stonewall penalty we'd have gone on to win. They were nothing short of poor - but so were West Ham, Sunderland, Norwich and Leicester. The fact we can't beat a string of poor teams is why we're going down. But with Garde in charge I feel more hopeful of coming back up
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two shit teams, we were the better without ever seriously threatening.
quick word on the referee......you twat.
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Gestede hamstring. No excuse not to sign a striker now. Mind you, that was the case when he hadn't done his hamstring.
As for the game, load of bollocks. Better team but still relegated. How Pulis sides get away with their fouling I'll never know. The Referee's Benevolent Fund must do very well out of the Albion these days.
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Shit manager with shit tactics, mixed in with a load of morons claiming to be footballers producing extremely shit set-pieces and shit boring football.
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Better side throughout. Solid at the back, industrious in the middle, and just a Charlie Austin short up front.
Those losses at Sunderland and Norwich are the killer. If we'd have taken points, we'd have been a much better proposition for a potential new striker.
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Watched/heard nothing about the game apart from the BBC stats. 61% and 15 shots with 4 on target, with West Brazil having 4 shots and 0 on target. That looks like we were easily the better side, and they were a typical dour Pulis side.
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We've stopped conceding goals but that needed to happen in December.
He's improved our organisation. In normal circumstances a good away point but not enough for us now.
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But - come on - football goggles on - we are a much much better team, taking finishing out of the equation (yes I know it is important part of the game to score, but you build from the back, and in the end the goals will come)
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Easily the better team, desperate for some quality up front.
Albion were fucking atrocious and will go down.
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bunn - 6 nothing to do
Richards 6 did ok - could have seen red
Okore 6.5 did the job needed
Lescott 7 is getting better for us
Cissoko 6 defencely he did great
Westwood 5 average - one decent shot going wide and a cross , not much else
Gana 6 average - sometimes does alright and other times just gives it away
Bacuna 2 - shooting and crossing - should be at peterborough
Gil 7.5 MOM had a good second half
ayew 7 tries but a weak shot and a slip at the end was disappointing
kozak 6 couldnt get in the game but no one supported him
veretout - not enough time - no idea why he didnt come on earlier
Gestede oh well - crap at headers
baggies were truly awful. we have to be beating these teams but we just are not good enough
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We should go for charlie austin..... Oh wait....
He was NEVER EVER going to join Villa. He played for a relegated team so why on earth would he even risk going down again?
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By far the better team there. A Naismith or Austin could make a real difference - roll the dice Villa, we can still pick up the points.
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We gave it our all. Everyone worked hard. We just desperately lack quality and we're in desperate need of a new midfielder and a new striker. We need a predator.
Can't fault the effort but the quality wasn't there. No one epitomised this more than Bacuna. He worked very hard today. At times he did reasonably well, in others he just showed a shocking lack of ability. Awful shots, terrible set piece delivery. He can run all day and all night, he just can't do good things with a football at his feet. Westwood similarly played quite well but the fact is, his limitations as a player are there for all to see. Only Gana, Veretout and Gil look the part in our midflield. I thought Gil had an excellent game today.
Richards looked better at RB than he does at CH (no shit).
Okore was frightening at times, and in others looks like a rock.
Bunn isn't convincing but is better than Guzan (at this time).
Ayew never stops going but nothing quite came off for him today. But the lad needs help. We can't lay all the expectations on him to pull us out.
I guess it's 5 games unbeaten now. That's a positive and the players are starting to put a proper shift in now. But unless we sign some quality, we're not going to win games.
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We dominated them, there was plenty of effort and organisation, and we just lack quality in the final third.
It's too little too late, but we're now unbeaten in five and have conceded just twice in those games. The defence looks much better, the midfield has more balance, we just can't get men into space in the box.
If nothing else, Garde has steadied the ship. We should have fucked Sherwood off and appointed Rémi in the summer, and we wouldn't be in this position.
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It's so rare a team can dominate a game the way we did today, especially second half and have so little goal threat.
Two massive points dropped today.
Oh and Albion are shocking to watch. Ugly would be a compliment for them.
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So dissapointed with Richards, time and time again he had the chance to attack down the right. He either did not move or just played the ball back inside.
One huge sulk.
I was going to post exactly the same thing. He appeared to shake his head when Garde took Gestede off for Veretout, showing a lack of respect.
Richards looked like he was playing in first gear. Lots in his locker, but he represents someone who simply cannot be arsed.
Garde was apparently going to bring him off, so he seems to have similar thoughts
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We should go for charlie austin..... Oh wait....
He was NEVER EVER going to join Villa. He played for a relegated team so why on earth would he even risk going down again?
Absolutely. And apparently he's on a huge contract as well, which given his injury record is risky on Southamptons part.
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Still 45 points to play for.
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Still not convinced on Garde but I do see a more balanced style of play going on and a big improvement of drawing instead of loosing!
Although if we just had abit more quality in the final 3rd some of these draws would be wins.
The lack of ability to cross and get it passed the first man is shocking.
As for the game itself 0-0 against an 11 man back line was always going to be hard, so maybe it's best to focus that our defence has kept another clean sheet.
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None of the players seem to be thinking, at any time.
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Decent result normally but it's 3 points we need.
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I really think - and I never thought I'd say this - we need Shane Long, or at least a player of his type. We have the predatory instincts of a dead sheep in the penalty area.
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At the end of the day the half wits didn't beat us.
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So dissapointed with Richards, time and time again he had the chance to attack down the right. He either did not move or just played the ball back inside.
One huge sulk.
I was going to post exactly the same thing. He appeared to shake his head when Garde took Gestede off for Veretout, displaying a complete lack of respect.
Richards looked like he was playing in first gear. Lots in his locker, but he represents someone who simply cannot be arsed.
Garde was apparently going to bring him off, so he seems to have similar thoughts
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We were in control but without quality to finish.
I never want to see Bacuna represent us in any way, shape or form again (not the first time this season I have mentioned this).
Apart from that, just how poor are Rondon & Beraheno or however you spell it?
Total crap from both of them.
Thank god for small mercies
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Apols for double post
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I really think - and I never thought I'd say this - we need Shane Long, or at least a player of his type. We have the predatory instincts of a dead sheep in the penalty area.
Ordinarily I'd bang my head repeatedly on the wall at a suggestion like that, but actually, he would be a good signing as he'd be ideal for next season. But that depends if he's willing to drop to the Championship. I think he's one of those players who's not quite top level, but too good for the Championship.
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Avoid Match of the Day tonight then - Sherwood is pundit apparently.
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It'll be interesting to see that penalty claim we had. Spoke to a mate who was there who said it was nailed on. That would be 2 definite pens we've missed out on in the last couple of games.
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Seriously - no one seing positives from that performance away from home in a local derby? These were the games we would have been thrashed under TS. We fucking played football from the back, and not a dissaster as earlier - At no point (beside flashbacks to earlier games) did we fuck it up at the back, which has cost us 10 points (my guess) this season. With this mentality we would not have only 13 points
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2 points dropped, they're absolute toss. If only we could cross the ball and had a decent striker.
Embarrassing for them playing for a 0-0 at home against one of our worst ever teams.
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Garde's a very good manager. Controlled the match without looking close to losing.
A proper striker well short all season.
Yeah right. A good manager would of played Veretout from the start and took off Bacuna at least before 60. He also would of went with two up top. Garde has produced nothing worthy of such praise, remember we've only won one league game due to a GK error.
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Shit manager with shit tactics, mixed in with a load of morons claiming to be footballers producing extremely shit set-pieces and shit boring football.
I take it you are talking about the opposition?
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It'll be interesting to see that penalty claim we had. Spoke to a mate who was there who said it was nailed on. That would be 2 definite pens we've missed out on in the last couple of games.
As big as it can be - not even debateable - huge huge penalty, and Ref 10 yards away.
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Avoid Match of the Day tonight then - Sherwood is pundit apparently.
Why? He speaks well of the club. Well he did the other week anyway.
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Shit manager with shit tactics, mixed in with a load of morons claiming to be footballers producing extremely shit set-pieces and shit boring football.
I take it you are talking about the opposition?
No one cares about them.
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Richards at full back plays like a centre half, at centre half he plays like he's a full back.
Today looked very much like a protest to me. Time and time again he received the ball with space to run into and he stopped, put his foot on the ball and rolled it inside to the midfield. Shameful stuff from a "villa fan".
Otherwise a good performance today, which would have been heartening if we weren't adrift at the foot of the table. Ho hum, at least we showed some heart (Richards excepted).
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Another game ticked off before its mathematically confirmed.
That's all I can say really
Yes the slow death. This point means that it will not be confirmed till about 8 games to go so end of March.
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Pulis's West Brom will be the top ranked West Midlands side in the country next season. These are truly dark times.
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It'll be interesting to see that penalty claim we had. Spoke to a mate who was there who said it was nailed on. That would be 2 definite pens we've missed out on in the last couple of games.
As big as it can be - not even debateable - huge huge penalty, and Ref 10 yards away.
Fuck sake.
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Garde's a very good manager. Controlled the match without looking close to losing.
A proper striker well short all season.
Yeah right. A good manager would of played Veretout from the start and took off Bacuna at least before 60. He also would of went with two up top. Garde has produced nothing worthy of such praise, remember we've only won one league game due to a GK error.
So why, in your opinion, didn't he start Veretout?
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bunn - 6 nothing to do
Richards 6 did ok - could have seen red
Okore 6.5 did the job needed
Lescott 7 is getting better for us
Cissoko 6 defencely he did great
Westwood 5 average - one decent shot going wide and a cross , not much else
Gana 6 average - sometimes does alright and other times just gives it away
Bacuna 2 - shooting and crossing - should be at peterborough
Gil 7.5 MOM had a good second half
ayew 7 tries but a weak shot and a slip at the end was disappointing
kozak 6 couldnt get in the game but no one supported him
veretout - not enough time - no idea why he didnt come on earlier
Gestede oh well - crap at headers
baggies were truly awful. we have to be beating these teams but we just are not good enough
very harsh on the likes of Bacuna and Westwood. Their long distance shooting was cack but we completely dominated them in midfield. Bacuna in particular won a lot of dirty ball surprisingly. Westwood out of position on the left put in a very good shift and created a great chance for Gestede. Veretout was very sharp when he came on, should have been on much earlier. Was Gil's best display in some time while Gueye continues to improve. Disappointed with Richards, thought he would be bombing on forward on the right but never did. Missed our best chance too.
Thought Ayew and Kozak particularly were hopeless. Kozak isnt even championship standard. Nothing up top was the reason we didnt win today. I know we keep saying it but Benteke and Gabby from this stage last season and we win that by 2 or 3.
Frustrated with Garde's substitutions, Veretout should have come on much earlier as should Gestede. West Brom were really poor, their three subs particularly.
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We were in control but without quality to finish.
Apart from that, just how poor are Rondon & Beraheno or however you spell it?
Total crap from bot of them.
Thank god for small mercies
Berahino's trading off a 6 month spell of taking the league by surprise. I think he's one of the most repugnant fox hunts in the Premier League. An oik of the highest order. An absolute piss kidney who is destined to fade into obscurity because of his stinking attitude. As much as some of our players have had a shit attitude this season, at least no one (even Gabby) has taken the piss as much as Berahino (who still maintains he's hard done by).
You can see the lad can't be arsed at all. He represents the absolute worst in modern football. And it delights me he's doing to the Tesco bags.
Rondon is just plain Bobbins.
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decent point, should have won but didnt
15 games and 25 points needed but games are running out
do people honestly believe shane long would even entertain coming here?
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The bitters really are shit, 30% possession at home and 0 shots on target, you're welcome to Tiny Penis the tramp in a tracksuit.
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Supertom - you'll do for me
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It'll be interesting to see that penalty claim we had. Spoke to a mate who was there who said it was nailed on. That would be 2 definite pens we've missed out on in the last couple of games.
As big as it can be - not even debateable - huge huge penalty, and Ref 10 yards away.
Fuck sake.
The ref was poor but to be honest Richards should have got a red card for his challenge. It was appalling.
Stone wall penalty though.
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Well done Smethwick a solid defensive performance and no shots on target at home to the Villa. You must be so proud. Still no double against us for 52 years keep trying.
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bunn - 6 nothing to do
Richards 6 did ok - could have seen red
Okore 6.5 did the job needed
Lescott 7 is getting better for us
Cissoko 6 defencely he did great
Westwood 5 average - one decent shot going wide and a cross , not much else
Gana 6 average - sometimes does alright and other times just gives it away
Bacuna 2 - shooting and crossing - should be at peterborough
Gil 7.5 MOM had a good second half
ayew 7 tries but a weak shot and a slip at the end was disappointing
kozak 6 couldnt get in the game but no one supported him
veretout - not enough time - no idea why he didnt come on earlier
Gestede oh well - crap at headers
baggies were truly awful. we have to be beating these teams but we just are not good enough
very harsh on the likes of Bacuna and Westwood. Their long distance shooting was cack but we completely dominated them in midfield. Bacuna in particular won a lot of dirty ball surprisingly. Westwood out of position on the left put in a very good shift and created a great chance for Gestede. Veretout was very sharp when he came on, should have been on much earlier. Was Gil's best display in some time while Gueye continues to improve. Disappointed with Richards, thought he would be bombing on forward on the right but never did. Missed our best chance too.
Thought Ayew and Kozak particularly were hopeless. Kozak isnt even championship standard. Nothing up top was the reason we didnt win today. I know we keep saying it but Benteke and Gabby from this stage last season and we win that by 2 or 3.
Frustrated with Garde's substitutions, Veretout should have come on much earlier as should Gestede. West Brom were really poor, their three subs particularly.
Absolutely not a Westwood fan, but today was not one game to get on his back. He did his job today, and was quicker on the ball than normal (like the CP game)
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It'll be interesting to see that penalty claim we had. Spoke to a mate who was there who said it was nailed on. That would be 2 definite pens we've missed out on in the last couple of games.
As big as it can be - not even debateable - huge huge penalty, and Ref 10 yards away.
Fuck sake.
The ref was poor but to be honest Richards should have got a red card for his challenge. It was appalling.
Stone wall penalty though.
Come on? in a derby, not touching the player, coming sideways? That is just silly. Bad foul, nothing more
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The bitters really are shit, 30% possession at home and 0 shots on target, you're welcome to Tiny Penis the tramp in a tracksuit.
I'd genuinely rather go down if the alternative was him keeping us up but getting a three or four year deal.
If you look at the post match thread on westbrom.com their fans seem to dislike him too.
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It'll be interesting to see that penalty claim we had. Spoke to a mate who was there who said it was nailed on. That would be 2 definite pens we've missed out on in the last couple of games.
As big as it can be - not even debateable - huge huge penalty, and Ref 10 yards away.
Fuck sake.
Still can not believe he did not give it, very suspicious.
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Well done Smethwick a solid defensive performance and no shots on target at home to the Villa. You must be so proud. Still no double against us for 52 years keep trying.
They will DVDs in their club shop tomorrow "how we relegated the Villa"
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Remember when they used to whine that they'd rather lose than play like that whenever they lost? They will probably stay up but McGrath they are a hideous side. Haven't won a game by more than a goal all season, that includes playing Port Vale at home, Bristol City twice and an hour against 9 man Stoke. Zero shots on target at home to the worst Villa side for decades. I would genuinely rather go down than have that baseball cap wearing twat nozzle in charge of us.
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The season with Crystal Palace was an outlier. When Pulis has a chance to buy players, he reverts to six foot four granite blocks with their brains in their headbands. Then whatever wisp of imagination he relies on gets found out and he gets sacked before he relegates a side.
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Well done Smethwick a solid defensive performance and no shots on target at home to the Villa. You must be so proud. Still no double against us for 52 years keep trying.
They will DVDs in their club shop tomorrow "how we relegated the Villa"
Let them jump the gun, we ain't down yet. Loads to play for.
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The bitters really are shit, 30% possession at home and 0 shots on target, you're welcome to Tiny Penis the tramp in a tracksuit.
I'd genuinely rather go down if the alternative was him keeping us up but getting a three or four year deal.
If you look at the post match thread on westbrom.com their fans seem to dislike him too.
for as shit as the bitters were today they are what 15 points ahead of us?
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Shit manager with shit tactics, mixed in with a load of morons claiming to be footballers producing extremely shit set-pieces and shit boring football.
I take it you are talking about the opposition?
No one cares about them.
Right, didn't see the game but you seem to be on your own with that opinion.
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Well done Smethwick a solid defensive performance and no shots on target at home to the Villa. You must be so proud. Still no double against us for 52 years keep trying.
They will DVDs in their club shop tomorrow "how we relegated the Villa"
Let them jump the gun, we ain't down yet. Loads to play for.
Jesus wept.
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It'll be interesting to see that penalty claim we had. Spoke to a mate who was there who said it was nailed on. That would be 2 definite pens we've missed out on in the last couple of games.
As big as it can be - not even debateable - huge huge penalty, and Ref 10 yards away.
Fuck sake.
Still can not believe he did not give it, very suspicious.
Someone said on the match thread (ozzjim I think) that Tiny Penis had complained to the FA about the ref who should originally have had this game and the FA appointed this ref instead - presumably one who wouldn't give decisions that annoy Pulis. It looked nailed on to me and the ref had a clear view.
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I am a bit surprised as some of the negativity. We played the ball forwards from defence very well, we created some very good positions from good passing and movement. Not an easy thing to do against a Pulis team, I doubt Smethwick have been so second fiddle on their own patch all season.
It all went a bit flat when we got to their penalty area, with a series poor crosses and no presence in their penalty area at all. Well we knew where we handed five months ago and it wouldn't mattered at all with a bit of even handed refereeing.
Against that, we denied Smethwick any opportunity to register a meaningful shot on target of their own. That is probably a rare experience for them at home too.
We have come on leaps and bounds from the disjointed shambles of a few menths ago. It is probably too late, but there's still a sliver of a chance.
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Well done Smethwick a solid defensive performance and no shots on target at home to the Villa. You must be so proud. Still no double against us for 52 years keep trying.
They will DVDs in their club shop tomorrow "how we relegated the Villa"
Let them jump the gun, we ain't down yet. Loads to play for.
Jesus wept.
You are jumping on SH for being positive ;) (or maybe - just maaaybe he is sarcastic? ;) )
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The bitters really are shit, 30% possession at home and 0 shots on target, you're welcome to Tiny Penis the tramp in a tracksuit.
Be great if they went down with us but I think they have somehow scrambled enough points to get over the line. That said I can't see them picking up too many the rest of the season
I'd genuinely rather go down if the alternative was him keeping us up but getting a three or four year deal.
If you look at the post match thread on westbrom.com their fans seem to dislike him too.
for as shit as the bitters were today they are what 15 points ahead of us?
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Well done Smethwick a solid defensive performance and no shots on target at home to the Villa. You must be so proud. Still no double against us for 52 years keep trying.
They will DVDs in their club shop tomorrow "how we relegated the Villa"
Let them jump the gun, we ain't down yet. Loads to play for.
Jesus wept.
You are jumping on SH for being positive ;) (or maybe - just maaaybe he is sarcastic? ;) )
Kill me now.
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Just been to the game. Thought we were utter, utter garbage. Don't remember us having one clear cut chance and the two players who threw their shirts into the crowd afterwards should be embarrassed. Played like a team who are safe in mid-table. Someone needs to remind the players that they are bottom of the league and part of one of the worst teams in our 140+ year history.
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0-0. 0-all. 0 fucking everywhere, like someone tipped over a big vat of 0 and it got on everything.
We were okay but we lack a striker who can do things like work space for Gil and Ayew or kick a ball.
I think Pulis hates the sport. It's like he's got a Freudian grudge against it, like his mum ran off with a football when he was a kid. Baggies were ugly, but not even interestingly ugly, like a grotesque gargoyle - just ugly like a block of flats. We may be going down, but at least I don't think we're actually morally bad - just footballingly bad.
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Can still see progress under Garde, but he's hamstrung by a real lack of quality.
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100% a pen
Lack of quality upfront cost us, at one point Gil got down the right crossed across the goal would of been a tap in but no one was anywhere near it.Ayew ( not at best today ) is a good player but he doesn't have the striker movement of a Defoe and thats what he badly need now we have shored up the back.
Comments on Richards not getting forward I think this is more a case of tactics where we are staying in shape , remember most of season Hutton at RB has bombed forward but left as brutally exposed at the back.
Veretout was rightlyfully given break after not being great against Leicester but feel he did well when he came on.If only him or the rest of the MF had a goal in them.Gana was great at breaking up play but his shooting is woeful
Probably too much for us to survive now but more like this and we look like we could return quickly next season
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The bitters really are shit, 30% possession at home and 0 shots on target, you're welcome to Tiny Penis the tramp in a tracksuit.
I'd genuinely rather go down if the alternative was him keeping us up but getting a three or four year deal.
If you look at the post match thread on westbrom.com their fans seem to dislike him too.
That's the thing. We are at our lowest point in 30 years and we still dominated them and were the ones trying to play football. They are stuck that version of football if that's what it can be called, and with him next season and the next etc etc. It's a frightening thought.
I saw enough in the improvement under Garde that with the right additions in the summer we can come straight back up. Much better at the back, better movement and chemistry. We clearly lack quality and a forward is a huge need. We will go down but I will be more confident of the future with Garde in charge.
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Just been to the game. Thought we were utter, utter garbage. Don't remember us having one clear cut chance and the two players who threw their shirts into the crowd afterwards should be embarrassed. Played like a team who are safe in mid-table. Someone needs to remind the players that they are bottom of the league and part of one of the worst teams in our 140+ year history.
I'm not allowed to reply to you what I want to or I will get kicked off the site
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Although it was a shocking decision not to give us a penalty, we all know the real reason for us not winning this. There's absolutely nothinhg up front and we have nobody who can put in a decent cross or deliver a dead ball without hitting the first defender.
How many times did Richards get the ball on the right and cut back instead of heading for the goal line and trying to get a cross in.
How Bacuna has survived as a professional player I will never know. He's a total disgrace. His "shots" were only on target if he was aiming for row z.
Gestede had a great chance but put it wide. It was a decent cross for a change - isn't he supposed to be good in the air? Oh and he got injured too, not that this was his fault.
For me, our season was summed by four events in this match. Not getting the penalty, Ayew's slip in the box, Gestede's miss and then him getting injured. In the words of the song, if it wasn't for bad luck, we'd have no luck at all.
On the plus side though, the defence looks better. I thought Lescott did well and Okore too, apart from a couple of errors. I would have preferred Veretout to have started instead of Westwood but I can see the thinking in this. He should have come on sooner though.
I'll still be there next Saturday though, idiot that I am because I love our club. I'll still feel the rush as I walk up Trinity Road and do the usual lap of the ground before going in. I'll still feel proud to support my team in the greatest football ground in the country.
One final thing, I'm a supporter Mr Hollis, not a "customer".
Sorry about the rant but I had to get that off my chest.
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Bacuna is fucking Blues, someone take him on a cruise and throw him over board the useless wanker. Remi bottled today too. Westwood, garbage division 2 player. Veretout should have been on at half time and we need wins not fucking 0-0's. Really negative shite.
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Shoot me - I thought we footballing wise were good today. We are a much much better team, with solid foundation, today. IF, just IF, we had this team (with the manager) start of the season, we would not be bottom of the table.
Again - sorry for looking at positives.
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I really think - and I never thought I'd say this - we need Shane Long, or at least a player of his type. We have the predatory instincts of a dead sheep in the penalty area.
Shane Long is anything but that player. A run all day merchant with the occasional highlights package similar to Ayew but five years older.
Has only got more than 10 league goals once in his career, in the championship too.
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Charlie Austin scores - Man Ure 0 - Saints 1
Tell you what, Garde has got some good results since coming in. He is one striker away from having a side capable of getting the 7-8 wins we need. It is such a shame the board seem to have thrown in the towel. Otherwise I would say we could beat the drop.
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Under normal circumstances we would probably be relatively content with the performance and result. As it is, we need wins so we are disappointed. A decent striker would make all the difference, but we already knew that.
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Just been to the game. Thought we were utter, utter garbage. Don't remember us having one clear cut chance and the two players who threw their shirts into the crowd afterwards should be embarrassed. Played like a team who are safe in mid-table. Someone needs to remind the players that they are bottom of the league and part of one of the worst teams in our 140+ year history.
I'm not allowed to reply to you what I want to or I will get kicked off the site
Go for it. Let rip. But while you're at it, explain how passing the ball from side to side and then crossing it in to nobody constitutes good football.
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Just been to the game. Thought we were utter, utter garbage. Don't remember us having one clear cut chance and the two players who threw their shirts into the crowd afterwards should be embarrassed. Played like a team who are safe in mid-table. Someone needs to remind the players that they are bottom of the league and part of one of the worst teams in our 140+ year history.
I'm not allowed to reply to you what I want to or I will get kicked off the site
same types of feelings from me too villa boy,lack of urgency etc, but I still believe we can stay up
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Woeful delivery into the box and not enough numbers in the box when we did. Plenty of the ball, but extremely blunt with Ayew having a bad day along with Gestede and Kozak. Wouldn't have scored if we played all night.
West Brom were worse.
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There's no chance of us staying up, we need a bucket of wins and have no one to put away half chances and neither do we commit enough men forward to score the goals to win a run of games. Albion were worse. A half decent Villa team would have took them apart today.
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Sorry...I just can't
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I am beginning to think we are going to be relegated by being unlucky across the season No it doesnt "even out".
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Just been to the game. Thought we were utter, utter garbage. Don't remember us having one clear cut chance and the two players who threw their shirts into the crowd afterwards should be embarrassed. Played like a team who are safe in mid-table. Someone needs to remind the players that they are bottom of the league and part of one of the worst teams in our 140+ year history.
I'm not allowed to reply to you what I want to or I will get kicked off the site
Go for it. Let rip. But while you're at it, explain how passing the ball from side to side and then crossing it in to nobody constitutes good football.
It doesn't. We were absolute garbage from set-pieces to simple passing. No one was really closing down until Gana woke up and started doing it. Constant aimless pointing and hand waving, shooting from miles out and sideways after sideways passing. Other than that, we were good.
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bunn - 6 nothing to do
Richards 6 did ok - could have seen red
Okore 6.5 did the job needed
Lescott 7 is getting better for us
Cissoko 6 defencely he did great
Westwood 5 average - one decent shot going wide and a cross , not much else
Gana 6 average - sometimes does alright and other times just gives it away
Bacuna 2 - shooting and crossing - should be at peterborough
Gil 7.5 MOM had a good second half
ayew 7 tries but a weak shot and a slip at the end was disappointing
kozak 6 couldnt get in the game but no one supported him
veretout - not enough time - no idea why he didnt come on earlier
Gestede oh well - crap at headers
baggies were truly awful. we have to be beating these teams but we just are not good enough
bit generous on Bacuna but agree with the rest
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We were the better side, but neither team was prepared to to go all out for the win. Both teams were so concerned with keeping their shape that they seldom pushed players forward.
By the time 60 minutes had passed I began wishing it was over. In fact, it was.
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Under normal circumstances we would probably be relatively content with the performance and result. As it is, we need wins so we are disappointed. A decent striker would make all the difference, but we already knew that.
I think that's it. I think Garde is doing a pretty good job of making us competitive. He's definitely the right man for us.
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A point is a point but more relevant point is can we get some wins in remaining games. Vidic and a striker. Something to get us through to end with a little dignity.
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Just seen the interview from Remi on Sky - I love this guy. I think we must do everything to keep him for long term. He says everything that i think.
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Just seen the interview from Remi on Sky - I love this guy. I think we must do everything to keep him for long term. He says everything that i think.
Agreed.
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Well I thought Garde picked the right team. The defence played very well Cissokho and Lescott in particular. Richards I should imagine was playing to orders. Both Westwood and Bacuna tried very hard but both lack quality. Gil was excellent in the second half.The major dissapointment was Kozak who contributed very little.
Didn't have a clear view of the penalty so its pointless making a comment. The result was what a lot of us expected. What I didn't expect is that the Baggies would be so dreadful. All in all they are beginning to look like a team.
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Just seen the interview from Remi on Sky - I love this guy. I think we must do everything to keep him for long term. He says everything that i think.
Agreed.
Thirded
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Just seen the interview from Remi on Sky - I love this guy. I think we must do everything to keep him for long term. He says everything that i think.
Agreed.
[/quoteJust seen the interview from Remi on Sky - I love this guy. I think we must do everything to keep him for long term. He says everything that i think.
Agreed.
Specially the bit about the situation we are in, and that, we might not survive, but the players must show they care and try.
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Just seen the interview from Remi on Sky - I love this guy. I think we must do everything to keep him for long term. He says everything that i think.
Completely agree he is absolutely spot on and knows what he's doing.
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Just been to the game. Thought we were utter, utter garbage. Don't remember us having one clear cut chance and the two players who threw their shirts into the crowd afterwards should be embarrassed. Played like a team who are safe in mid-table. Someone needs to remind the players that they are bottom of the league and part of one of the worst teams in our 140+ year history.
I'm not allowed to reply to you what I want to or I will get kicked off the site
Go for it. Let rip. But while you're at it, explain how passing the ball from side to side and then crossing it in to nobody constitutes good football.
It doesn't. We were absolute garbage from set-pieces to simple passing. No one was really closing down until Gana woke up and started doing it. Constant aimless pointing and hand waving, shooting from miles out and sideways after sideways passing. Other than that, we were good.
It's as if nobody wants to take any kind of responsibility for creating chances or scoring the goals that would make a difference. As soon as someone gets the ball they're trying to pass it to someone else.
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Surely we could do a loan deal for a striker?? No imagination from the board it seems.
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Pay fucking 100 millions for a striker...that might be good business. The rest is workable..
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Penis has just been on the radio to say he's pleased with the performance and result. Apparently we had £84m of talent on show which is why it was a good result
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As soon as someone gets the ball they're trying to pass it to someone else.
The fuckers.
Trying to pass the ball to a teammate indeed.
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One point better than none but not really what we need given our rather precarious position.
The one thing I will say is a positive is the effect that the removal of Guzan has had on the back four. I don't believe Bunn is a number one keeper by any stretch of the imagination but with Guzan no longer there they seem to have stopped gifting the opposition 1-2 soft goals each game
It won't save us but fair play to Remi for making the change
Now get a bloody decent strker in this week please!
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Just seen a post from a Bitter I know, it's over 3 hours since they last had a shot on target in the league. And in between their last 2 league games they had 1 on target at Bristol City in the cup.
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Penis has just been on the radio to say he's pleased with the performance and result. Apparently we had £84m of talent on show which is why it was a good result
if that's what he said hes trying to take the piss surely? wanker!!
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Penis has just been on the radio to say he's pleased with the performance and result. Apparently we had £84m of talent on show which is why it was a good result
Boring moron. We should have done these today.
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Sherwood's plan A for the season, having a strike force of Gestede and Adebeyor is the primary reason we are in this irretrievably dire situation. That and his petulant team selections.
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Sherwood's plan A for the season, having a strike force of Gestede and Adebeyor is the primary reason we are in this irretrievably dire situation. That and his petulant team selections.
That is spot on... No tactics whatsoever.
We are building a team. If (yes) we go down, we will win that league with Remi (go ahead - abuse welcomed - I can handle it)
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Final ball into the box wasn't good enough from Bacuna. We wasted 7-8 opportunities to put a quality ball in but fluffed the opportunity to put a good ball in.
A striker and wide man in on loan and we have a real chance of staying up, but without them we lack match winners.
We were fine at the back, compered well and won a lot of ball. Pity Veretout didn't start. Admittedly the Albion were diabolical and offered nothing.
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I still think - buy/pay for a quality striker...nomatter the price, that will be our best bet of surviving. The rest of the team seem to be improving. "just" need goalscorer
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Final ball into the box wasn't good enough from Bacuna. We wasted 7-8 opportunities to put a quality ball in but fluffed the opportunity to put a good ball in.
A striker and wide man in on loan and we have a real chance of staying up, but without them we lack match winners.
We were fine at the back, compered well and won a lot of ball. Pity Veretout didn't start. Admittedly the Albion were diabolical and offered nothing.
Do you know why they were diabolical? because we made them diabolical. I hate the "they were only good because they were crap"
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Remi has turned a bad team and squad into a team that now seems to care and fight just got to keep battling on
Should of won this
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Sherwood's plan A for the season, having a strike force of Gestede and Adebeyor is the primary reason we are in this irretrievably dire situation. That and his petulant team selections.
Sherwood is just a glory glory boy and thought he could build a team from the front. He ignored the basics of football.
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As soon as someone gets the ball they're trying to pass it to someone else.
The fuckers.
Trying to pass the ball to a teammate indeed.
Recipe for disaster, whoever heard of such a thing?
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Who was the analyst doing the coverage for BT/Sky today (not sure where the main feed came from)? I think I heard the commentator call him Gary, presumably an ex-footballer but I couldn't work out who it was.
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I'd just like to add that I like this manager too. I think if we had an IQ test as part of our interview process he's the only one out of the last few that would have got the job.
He's working with planks of wood up front. I think even the shadow of his former self Gabby would improve us. Do we actually know for sure that he's persona-non-grata or just injured?
I have to admit that having been beaten down by so many defeats this season, I actually welcome draws these days, even though they're not much use to us. Especially away ones. That's how low etc.
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Who was the analyst doing the coverage for BT/Sky today (not sure where the main feed came from)? I think I heard the commentator call him Gary, presumably an ex-footballer but I couldn't work out who it was.
Birtles?
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Who was the analyst doing the coverage for BT/Sky today (not sure where the main feed came from)? I think I heard the commentator call him Gary, presumably an ex-footballer but I couldn't work out who it was.
Gary Birtles
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Thanks. He was extremely irritating.
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Who was the analyst doing the coverage for BT/Sky today (not sure where the main feed came from)? I think I heard the commentator call him Gary, presumably an ex-footballer but I couldn't work out who it was.
Gary Birtles
Glitter
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Why wasn't the Leicester goal against us offside?
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Who was the analyst doing the coverage for BT/Sky today (not sure where the main feed came from)? I think I heard the commentator call him Gary, presumably an ex-footballer but I couldn't work out who it was.
Gary Birtles
Glitter
Hilarious. Well done.
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Who was the analyst doing the coverage for BT/Sky today (not sure where the main feed came from)? I think I heard the commentator call him Gary, presumably an ex-footballer but I couldn't work out who it was.
Baldi
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Why wasn't the Leicester goal against us offside?
Because the ball came from a goal kick
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I'd just like to add that I like this manager too. I think if we had an IQ test as part of our interview process he's the only one out of the last few that would have got the job.
He's working with planks of wood up front. I think even the shadow of his former self Gabby would improve us. Do we actually know for sure that he's persona-non-grata or just injured?
I have to admit that having been beaten down by so many defeats this season, I actually welcome draws these days, even though they're not much use to us. Especially away ones. That's how low etc.
My thoughts as well. At the time Sherwood was sacked, I was very concerned that we were going to tail spin completely out of control. I can start to see positives and believe we have a manager that understands the game. I am sure that when he buys players they will be specific to what we need, not buys for the sake of it.
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Very brief highlights (http://www.flashscores.co.uk/match/OxYnfad4/#video)
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like everyone else I do think we need a striker on the basis that we havent really got one that's anything like half decent at the moment
having said that,
I didn't see any of the game just followed it on the 'match thread' which is always difficult as it seems everyone of our players is shit,
but the question I would ask is if our set pieces, corners and crossing ability is so crap,
how would a Charlie Austin type striker make any difference ?
these sort of forwards thrive on good delivery
are the forward players missing a bunch of great chances we are creating, or are we just not getting anywhere near with the final ball
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With a cutting edge up front that would have been a comfortable win.
It's funny, Remi says in the Sky interview "I don't know if we have enough quality to stay in that league", yet didn't Fox and Hollis just finish telling us at the AGM that Remi was happy with the team he had and still believed we could escape without new signings - someone is telling porkies.
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Well we are solid now. Lescott and Okore are great together, we concede less than a goal a game on average with them playing as a pair. But we're as toothless as Shane Magowan, a new striker would give everyone a lift and win us loads more points, but we also need other players to take some responsibility for scoring goals. No league goals from midfield all season - Veretout, Westwood, Gana, Sanchez, Bacuna all on a big fat zero. The likes of Bournemouth have been getting regular goals from midfield.
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With a cutting edge up front that would have been a comfortable win.
It's funny, Remi says in the Sky interview "I don't know if we have enough quality to stay in that league", yet didn't Fox and Hollis just finish telling us at the AGM that Remi was happy with the team he had and still believed we could escape without new signings - someone is telling porkies.
I tell ya, I think he is going to walk. He has not been backed and is angry about the switcheroo.
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like everyone else I do think we need a striker on the basis that we havent really got one that's anything like half decent at the moment
having said that,
I didn't see any of the game just followed it on the 'match thread' which is always difficult as it seems everyone of our players is shit,
but the question I would ask is if our set pieces, corners and crossing ability is so crap,
how would a Charlie Austin type striker make any difference ?
these sort of forwards thrive on good delivery
are the forward players missing a bunch of great chances we are creating, or are we just not getting anywhere near with the final ball
Good point, the set piece deliverey and crosses and attacking passes from open play were abysmal. Bacuna was the worst culprit. A forward that moves though would at least create some space.
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Just back from game. Main emotion is that Olbiyun fans can crack on and enjoy another team's demise as much as they want. At least I don't have to watch that anti-football every week.
Only one team tried to win that game. We know we're limited, we know it's likely that it's too late but they're giving it everything. Happy to applaud them off when they do that.
I believe Rémi is beginning to fix us. Long may he reign
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Well we are solid now. Lescott and Okore are great together, we concede less than a goal a game on average with them playing as a pair. But we're as toothless as Shane Magowan, a new striker would give everyone a lift and win us loads more points, but we also need other players to take some responsibility for scoring goals. No league goals from midfield all season - Veretout, Westwood, Gana, Sanchez, Bacuna all on a big fat zero. The likes of Bournemouth have been getting regular goals from midfield.
Bit(e) behind the times. You cannot use Shane as an example as he has had all his teeth replaced now.
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just think two refs decisions going our way and we could be down to 5 points adrift
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Just back from game. Main emotion is that Olbiyun fans can crack on and enjoy another team's demise as much as they want. At least I don't have to watch that anti-football every week.
Only one team tried to win that game. We know we're limited, we know it's likely that it's too late but they're giving it everything. Happy to applaud them off when they do that.
I believe Rémi is beginning to fix us. Long may he reign
watched it on a dodgy feed. Ollbeyun are utter garbage. Our lot gave it their all and that was good to see. Remi seems to be getting somewhere with them. Yes it probably is too little too late but I'm getting a good feeling about Remi. Another pen not given thanks to a ref bottling it same as last week when Huth got away with gbh on Kozak. Defence seems have sorted themselves out now we have a keeper they can rely on. Guzan should never start a game for us ever again.
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Shoot me - I thought we footballing wise were good today. We are a much much better team, with solid foundation, today. IF, just IF, we had this team (with the manager) start of the season, we would not be bottom of the table.
Again - sorry for looking at positives.
How dare you? Shooting is too good for you do you fancy being beheaded?
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just think two refs decisions going our way and we could be down to 5 points adrift
True that.
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Shoot me - I thought we footballing wise were good today. We are a much much better team, with solid foundation, today. IF, just IF, we had this team (with the manager) start of the season, we would not be bottom of the table.
Again - sorry for looking at positives.
How dare you? Shooting is too good for you do you fancy being beheaded?
You have to take into consideration that English is my third (not sure if it is 4th or 5th) language. But please dont shot I for the things me not like...something like that
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As soon as someone gets the ball they're trying to pass it to someone else.
The fuckers.
Trying to pass the ball to a teammate indeed.
Recipe for disaster, whoever heard of such a thing?
Brilliant. Single out one part of my post and take it completely out of context.
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Its all been said already but comfortably the better team with no cutting edge, I wouldn't swap our inevitable relegation with Remi for were they are with Pulis at all, they are so bad, and were the best judges when it comes to levels of bad.
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As soon as someone gets the ball they're trying to pass it to someone else.
The fuckers.
Trying to pass the ball to a teammate indeed.
Recipe for disaster, whoever heard of such a thing?
Brilliant. Single out one part of my post and take it completely out of context.
I'm pretty sure they're just joking.
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Luke James
Totally agree only one team wanted to play football today and play the right to. If your only goal is just to stay in the prem league every season playing the shite football these stripey shites played today and every day then they can have it.
Would rather go down re-group and come back up stronger and better it's happened in the late 60s and we all know what happened just over a decade later
Villa till I die
Like the flag said today " I bleed claret and blue "
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It's been a few hours so my take is:
Defence looks as good as it's been for a while. That back 4 is big and strong with a bit of pace and I'd stick with it. That said, Okore needs to stop committing himself and I though Richards could have got at Evans a bit more. Bunn looks more assured than Guzan.
Midfield - Were on top most of the game and dominated possession. Lack of quality in final third when it's needed but they are competing and look less exposed.
Attack - No desire to get in positions to hurt. If we had someone willing to get in the 6 yard box, dart to the near post, etc we'd have scored a couple of tap ins today.
Conclusion - we are going down but we knew that. In fact, I'm at ease with it now. If we keep this team largely in tact and get rid of the shit such as Gabby, Richardson etc then we'll piss next season with a striker. If Sherwood had been given the axe when he deserved it then I think this team would be at least 10 points better off. That slump and the knock on effect to confidence decided our fate a long time ago.
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we also need other players to take some responsibility for scoring goals. No league goals from midfield all season - Veretout, Westwood, Gana, Sanchez, Bacuna all on a big fat zero.
Spot on. For a central midfield player not to weight in with a few goals is criminal. If the central two at various times (Westwood, Gana, Veretout) had chipped in with 3 a piece thats 9 goals and probably would have got us an extra 6 points+ of the course of the season.
Its not much, but it could have made the difference.
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we also need other players to take some responsibility for scoring goals. No league goals from midfield all season - Veretout, Westwood, Gana, Sanchez, Bacuna all on a big fat zero.
Spot on. For a central midfield player not to weight in with a few goals is criminal. If the central two at various times (Westwood, Gana, Veretout) had chipped in with 3 a piece thats 9 goals and probably would have got us an extra 6 points+ of the course of the season.
Its not much, but it could have made the difference.
we do not have a midfield player that even try's to get into goal scoring positions, I would include Ayew as well.
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As soon as someone gets the ball they're trying to pass it to someone else.
The fuckers.
Trying to pass the ball to a teammate indeed.
Ffs
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I do think we need a goalscoring midfielder like Lampard/Taylor/Platt and a goalscorer upfront but we have to get both in to be sure. We are sorting out defence out but we need goals and goals.
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Shoot me - I thought we footballing wise were good today. We are a much much better team, with solid foundation, today. IF, just IF, we had this team (with the manager) start of the season, we would not be bottom of the table.
Again - sorry for looking at positives.
How dare you? Shooting is too good for you do you fancy being beheaded?
You have to take into consideration that English is my third (not sure if it is 4th or 5th) language. But please dont shot I for the things me not like...something like that
That's very good Edvard. It's a pity we did not turn this and Leicester games into wins something that was possible based on our play. 17 points would have changed the situation completely but we have to keep going and see where that leads to.
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As soon as someone gets the ball they're trying to pass it to someone else.
The fuckers.
Trying to pass the ball to a teammate indeed.
Recipe for disaster, whoever heard of such a thing?
Brilliant post.
Dave can take the credit, I just ran with it. But thanks.
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As soon as someone gets the ball they're trying to pass it to someone else.
The fuckers.
Trying to pass the ball to a teammate indeed.
Recipe for disaster, whoever heard of such a thing?
Brilliant. Single out one part of my post and take it completely out of context.
I'm pretty sure they're just joking.
Great edit!
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We haven't had a goalscoring central midfielder since Ian Taylor. It's one of our perennial failings.
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Andy Townsend.
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We haven't had a goalscoring central midfielder since Ian Taylor. It's one of our perennial failings.
Milner for a season looked to be that answer and to be fair Barry actually scored more consistently for a period than Tayls (granted, a few pens).
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As soon as someone gets the ball they're trying to pass it to someone else.
The fuckers.
Trying to pass the ball to a teammate indeed.
Recipe for disaster, whoever heard of such a thing?
Brilliant post.
Dave can take the credit, I just ran with it. But thanks.
decent points, all on them, Westwood is a master at the 4 yd pass normally sideways or backwards, but he generally finds a player wearing the same coloured shirt as I'm.
we need at least one leader out there. GO GET BARRY. I fucking know he aint coming , but get some one akin.
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I just want to bring up Tiny Penis' comments again. Firstly our match day squad cost nowhere near £84m, more like £50m. Secondly, they've spent more NET than us during the last 3 seasons. Thirdly their wage bill is bigger than ours now.
They're not the plucky under dogs who spend £20 here and there now, they spend a lot of money, they just still act small time and in our shadow. The truth of the matter is they've outspent us over the past few years.
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We actually looked ok in the first two thirds of the pitch by our standards. Solid at the back and I thought Gana was excellent in midfield. It all went to pieces as soon as we got near their box, our tactic is cross it in and hope for the best. Trouble is we can't cross a ball, especially Bacuna, and both of our strikers are static and slow. Gil is a flaky player and a bit lightweight but he played well today, problem is he's on a different wavelength to everyone else and hasn't got any options when he has the ball.
Albion were there for the taking and were shocking but we still couldn't beat them which is why we're going down.
My Albion mates are embarrassed that they played for a 0-0 at home against us and so they should be. If genuinely rather go down than be managed by Pulis.
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Missed opportunity seeing how the other results went today. I just think if we are gong to stay up, these are the kind of results we need to go our way. Listened to the game on WM and it seemed that our lack of quality in the final third was apparent again, especially with our crossing.
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I just want to bring up Tiny Penis' comments again. Firstly our match day squad cost nowhere near £84m, more like £50m. Secondly, they've spent more NET than us during the last 3 seasons. Thirdly their wage bill is bigger than ours now.
They're not the plucky under dogs who spend £20 here and there now, they spend a lot of money, they just still act small time and in our shadow. The truth of the matter is they've outspent us over the past few years.
Which speaks volumes in itself.
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Who enters a season with your main striker as Gestede but no wide men in the squad? Madness.
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I just want to bring up Tiny Penis' comments again. Firstly our match day squad cost nowhere near £84m, more like £50m. Secondly, they've spent more NET than us during the last 3 seasons. Thirdly their wage bill is bigger than ours now.
They're not the plucky under dogs who spend £20 here and there now, they spend a lot of money, they just still act small time and in our shadow. The truth of the matter is they've outspent us over the past few years.
Which speaks volumes in itself.
Indeed. The fact Albion, a 20 thousand average attendance nothing club are paying more wages than us is not right.
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I just want to bring up Tiny Penis' comments again. Firstly our match day squad cost nowhere near £84m, more like £50m. Secondly, they've spent more NET than us during the last 3 seasons. Thirdly their wage bill is bigger than ours now.
They're not the plucky under dogs who spend £20 here and there now, they spend a lot of money, they just still act small time and in our shadow. The truth of the matter is they've outspent us over the past few years.
I hold my hands up that over a year ago when Lambert was on the ropes and Tiny Penis was available, I thought he'd be a good option. He'd have kept us up last season. He'd keep us up this season...but he'd probably fuck off in the summer having done nothing to develop us as a football club and have served up a thoroughly wretched brand of anti-football. I would rather go down with what Remi appears to be attempting, and try and build some kind of long term ethos than have a short term fix like TP whereby you have to trade all traces of style for grinding out the results to leave you nothing more than mediocre. Premier league certainly, but almost insultingly mediocre.
They are a dreadful, dreadful fucking shower of fucking shite. I don't care that they'll finish 14th with a comfortable gap over the drop zone. Who the fuck wants to watch that shit every week?
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I just want to bring up Tiny Penis' comments again. Firstly our match day squad cost nowhere near £84m, more like £50m. Secondly, they've spent more NET than us during the last 3 seasons. Thirdly their wage bill is bigger than ours now.
They're not the plucky under dogs who spend £20 here and there now, they spend a lot of money, they just still act small time and in our shadow. The truth of the matter is they've outspent us over the past few years.
I hold my hands up that over a year ago when Lambert was on the ropes and Tiny Penis was available, I thought he'd be a good option. He'd have kept us up last season. He'd keep us up this season...but he'd probably fuck off in the summer having done nothing to develop us as a football club and have served up a thoroughly wretched brand of anti-football. I would rather go down with what Remi appears to be attempting, and try and build some kind of long term ethos than have a short term fix like TP whereby you have to trade all traces of style for grinding out the results to leave you nothing more than mediocre. Premier league certainly, but almost insultingly mediocre.
They are a dreadful, dreadful fucking shower of fucking shite. I don't care that they'll finish 14th with a comfortable gap over the drop zone. Who the fuck wants to watch that shit every week?
Pretty much what I said in my post, but you put it across alot better!
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Who enters a season with your main striker as Gestede but no wide men in the squad? Madness.
Since Houlier "width" is a dirty word at Villa Park
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Who enters a season with your main striker as Gestede but no wide men in the squad? Madness.
It is crazy. Next season Gestede can get goals but we need a winger. There are a lot of wingers who teeter on that edge of being too good for the Champ but not quite consistent enough for the top flight. Someone like that would be good for us next season, and then able to be a useful squad option when we're back up.
If you've got a little bit of skill and a turn of pace you can stand out in the championship. Whoever is the current version of Wayne Routledge might be worth a punt.
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I just want to bring up Tiny Penis' comments again. Firstly our match day squad cost nowhere near £84m, more like £50m. Secondly, they've spent more NET than us during the last 3 seasons. Thirdly their wage bill is bigger than ours now.
They're not the plucky under dogs who spend £20 here and there now, they spend a lot of money, they just still act small time and in our shadow. The truth of the matter is they've outspent us over the past few years.
I hold my hands up that over a year ago when Lambert was on the ropes and Tiny Penis was available, I thought he'd be a good option. He'd have kept us up last season. He'd keep us up this season...but he'd probably fuck off in the summer having done nothing to develop us as a football club and have served up a thoroughly wretched brand of anti-football. I would rather go down with what Remi appears to be attempting, and try and build some kind of long term ethos than have a short term fix like TP whereby you have to trade all traces of style for grinding out the results to leave you nothing more than mediocre. Premier league certainly, but almost insultingly mediocre.
They are a dreadful, dreadful fucking shower of fucking shite. I don't care that they'll finish 14th with a comfortable gap over the drop zone. Who the fuck wants to watch that shit every week?
At which point you move him on and bring in someone who can take you forward. Stoke and Palace did it with Pulis and West Ham did it with Allardyce.
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We haven't had a goalscoring central midfielder since Ian Taylor. It's one of our perennial failings.
Jimmy Milner
Gareth Barry
Ashley Young
Snake sort of
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Who enters a season with your main striker as Gestede but no wide men in the squad? Madness.
That's very true mate. Pre season I wanted Matt Phillips and Yanick Bolase
Quality wide players who could have been great signings for us. Surely if Gestede was on the radar anyone with an ounce of football knowledge would have been lining up quality wide players. It ain't fuckin rocket science is it?
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Who enters a season with your main striker as Gestede but no wide men in the squad? Madness.
It is crazy. Next season Gestede can get goals but we need a winger. There are a lot of wingers who teeter on that edge of being too good for the Champ but not quite consistent enough for the top flight. Someone like that would be good for us next season, and then able to be a useful squad option when we're back up.
If you've got a little bit of skill and a turn of pace you can stand out in the championship. Whoever is the current version of Wayne Routledge might be worth a punt.
Nathan Dyer, probably wouldn't leave the Leicester bench though either. Matt Philips, no one has come in for him yet, we would be a step up from QPR and their bus shelter of a ground.
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I just want to bring up Tiny Penis' comments again. Firstly our match day squad cost nowhere near £84m, more like £50m. Secondly, they've spent more NET than us during the last 3 seasons. Thirdly their wage bill is bigger than ours now.
They're not the plucky under dogs who spend £20 here and there now, they spend a lot of money, they just still act small time and in our shadow. The truth of the matter is they've outspent us over the past few years.
I hold my hands up that over a year ago when Lambert was on the ropes and Tiny Penis was available, I thought he'd be a good option. He'd have kept us up last season. He'd keep us up this season...but he'd probably fuck off in the summer having done nothing to develop us as a football club and have served up a thoroughly wretched brand of anti-football. I would rather go down with what Remi appears to be attempting, and try and build some kind of long term ethos than have a short term fix like TP whereby you have to trade all traces of style for grinding out the results to leave you nothing more than mediocre. Premier league certainly, but almost insultingly mediocre.
They are a dreadful, dreadful fucking shower of fucking shite. I don't care that they'll finish 14th with a comfortable gap over the drop zone. Who the fuck wants to watch that shit every week?
At which point you move him on and bring in someone who can take you forward. Stoke and Palace did it with Pulis and West Ham did it with Allardyce.
It's the moving on and going forward part we've persistently failed on sadly.
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Just back.
Have say I thought it was a better display, but our lack of cutting edge is so bad it's frightening. If we want any chance of getting out of it, we have to take a punt on a striker. Maybe Gestede getting injured might force our hands.
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I just want to bring up Tiny Penis' comments again. Firstly our match day squad cost nowhere near £84m, more like £50m. Secondly, they've spent more NET than us during the last 3 seasons. Thirdly their wage bill is bigger than ours now.
They're not the plucky under dogs who spend £20 here and there now, they spend a lot of money, they just still act small time and in our shadow. The truth of the matter is they've outspent us over the past few years.
I hold my hands up that over a year ago when Lambert was on the ropes and Tiny Penis was available, I thought he'd be a good option. He'd have kept us up last season. He'd keep us up this season...but he'd probably fuck off in the summer having done nothing to develop us as a football club and have served up a thoroughly wretched brand of anti-football. I would rather go down with what Remi appears to be attempting, and try and build some kind of long term ethos than have a short term fix like TP whereby you have to trade all traces of style for grinding out the results to leave you nothing more than mediocre. Premier league certainly, but almost insultingly mediocre.
They are a dreadful, dreadful fucking shower of fucking shite. I don't care that they'll finish 14th with a comfortable gap over the drop zone. Who the fuck wants to watch that shit every week?
I'm not clever enough to put in the icons but a round of applause for your comments. Spot on mate.
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I just want to bring up Tiny Penis' comments again. Firstly our match day squad cost nowhere near £84m, more like £50m. Secondly, they've spent more NET than us during the last 3 seasons. Thirdly their wage bill is bigger than ours now.
They're not the plucky under dogs who spend £20 here and there now, they spend a lot of money, they just still act small time and in our shadow. The truth of the matter is they've outspent us over the past few years.
I have it on okay authority that the power that be there doesn't rate him in the transfer market.
Chester dud
McManaman dud
Ideye dud although to be fair to him once he found a side that plays football started scoring goals.
Rondon dud
Lambert dud
Hence why apparently they aren't spending this month.
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I thought we played OK just couldn't find a cutting edge. Ayew was poor today. Need a striker. Did anyone see those Albion fans at the end throw a flare in our end? One or two of ours threw seats
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I thought we played OK just couldn't find a cutting edge. Ayew was poor today. Need a striker. Did anyone see those Albion fans at the end throw a flare in our end? One or two of ours threw seats
Send us the bill.
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Its the first league game this season when I've come away thinking the opposition are worse than us.
Full marks to all our players today for their fight and effort, I couldn't really fault any of them for that. If only we had a half decent striker or someone who can cross a ball so we could get the best out of Gestede.
Westwood has got stick on here all season but I thought he was man of the match today alongside Gana - pity neither of them can shoot.
As for Pulis - I'd rather watch Villa in the fourth division than have him as our manager. I can't see Albion putting up with him for much longer.
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I thought we played OK just couldn't find a cutting edge. Ayew was poor today. Need a striker. Did anyone see those Albion fans at the end throw a flare in our end? One or two of ours threw seats
Send us the bill.
Their fans, and ours, on Twitter are saying it was our fans who threw the flare and seats.
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I'm sure the flare came from them. We did throw a couple of seats...not me btw
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We were the better team and if anyone deserved to win a dour derby it was us. Gil looked a class above for much of the game and we were denied a blatant penalty in the first half when Ayew was brought down by Olsson. The team was solid and showed commitment from the first minute to last. However we are going down because we simply lack the quality up front to win enough games. We survived the last few years because we had Benteke. We just don't have anyone of his ability to score goals any more. Unless Remi can pull this player out of the hat next week we are gone.
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Who enters a season with your main striker as Gestede but no wide men in the squad? Madness.
That's very true mate. Pre season I wanted Matt Phillips and Yanick Bolase
Quality wide players who could have been great signings for us. Surely if Gestede was on the radar anyone with an ounce of football knowledge would have been lining up quality wide players. It ain't fuckin rocket science is it?
Lennon and Townsend were mentioned by tactics in the summer ;D
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Anyone who can cross a ball would be a start. Bacuna is so fecking annoying.
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Who enters a season with your main striker as Gestede but no wide men in the squad? Madness.
That's very true mate. Pre season I wanted Matt Phillips and Yanick Bolase
Quality wide players who could have been great signings for us. Surely if Gestede was on the radar anyone with an ounce of football knowledge would have been lining up quality wide players. It ain't fuckin rocket science is it?
Lennon and Townsend were mentioned by tactics in the summer ;D
Spurs want £14m now for Townsend after half a season of him rotting in the reserves. It would probably have been more in the summer. Not a chance.
A better idea would have been to just not buy Gestede and buy someone with more than one dimension to his play.
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Who enters a season with your main striker as Gestede but no wide men in the squad? Madness.
That's very true mate. Pre season I wanted Matt Phillips and Yanick Bolase
Quality wide players who could have been great signings for us. Surely if Gestede was on the radar anyone with an ounce of football knowledge would have been lining up quality wide players. It ain't fuckin rocket science is it?
Lennon and Townsend were mentioned by tactics in the summer ;D
I wouldn't mind Lennon or Townsend in the team now.
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I'm sure the flare came from them. We did throw a couple of seats...not me btw
I believe you.
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Who enters a season with your main striker as Gestede but no wide men in the squad? Madness.
That's very true mate. Pre season I wanted Matt Phillips and Yanick Bolase
Quality wide players who could have been great signings for us. Surely if Gestede was on the radar anyone with an ounce of football knowledge would have been lining up quality wide players. It ain't fuckin rocket science is it?
Lennon and Townsend were mentioned by tactics in the summer ;D
I wouldn't mind Lennon or Townsend in the team now.
John and Andy? They'd still be an improvement.
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By all accounts the referee today has given 10 pens in 15 games this season ,the most by any referee in the Prem this season. Yet he has denied us two blatant pens this season,the other one being against Sunderland at home .It feels like everything is against us at the moment
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Luke James
Totally agree only one team wanted to play football today and play the right to. If your only goal is just to stay in the prem league every season playing the shite football these stripey shites played today and every day then they can have it.
Would rather go down re-group and come back up stronger and better it's happened in the late 60s and we all know what happened just over a decade later
Villa till I die
Like the flag said today " I bleed claret and blue "
That's my elder son's flag. :)
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Who enters a season with your main striker as Gestede but no wide men in the squad? Madness.
That's very true mate. Pre season I wanted Matt Phillips and Yanick Bolase
Quality wide players who could have been great signings for us. Surely if Gestede was on the radar anyone with an ounce of football knowledge would have been lining up quality wide players. It ain't fuckin rocket science is it?
Lennon and Townsend were mentioned by tactics in the summer ;D
I wouldn't mind Lennon or Townsend in the team now.
John and Andy? They'd still be an improvement.
I have no idea how much of the stories about what went on transfer-wise at the club over the summer is true, but it is interesting to think that Sherwood did seem to want to bring in a couple of wingers quite urgently, which would make sense given his keenness on Adebayor and, subsequently, Gestede.
He ay well have had a plan of sorts after all. Not a great one, admittedly, but one which has some logic behind it. And if that was his (one and only, I expect) plan, then I suppose it was only to be expected that he would struggle to figure out what to do with players clearly more suited to a more technical, measured passing game.
Well, maybe not that interesting after all.
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Going down with a whimper.
Looked like going down in complete silence before, so an improvement of sorts.
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Going down with a whimper.
Looked like going down in complete silence before, so an improvement of sorts.
two more weeks and its a roar of
no fkn way
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I actually think that the last few matches have shown that we have a really pretty good coach in Garde. We've managed to get some sound results (i know we needed wins, I mean in the broader picture) which have been largely down to an improved defence, tactics which seem to suit the opposition (at least in terms of stopping their game) and which have seen us, in my opinion, look like a team that can complete properly with other Premier League teams.
That he has managed to this with a really, really shaky squad only improves my opinion of him. I hope he sticks around.
As for today, I thought we were well-organised and disciplined and, of course, lacking in real quality attacking-wise. I thought Lescott, Okore and Gueye were very good, Cissokho and Gil not bad at all either. Bacuna, Kozak and Westwood were very bad. The rest were alright.
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By all accounts the referee today has given 10 pens in 15 games this season ,the most by any referee in the Prem this season. Yet he has denied us two blatant pens this season,the other one being against Sunderland at home .It feels like everything is against us at the moment
The Gil dive? Not a chance.
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Who enters a season with your main striker as Gestede but no wide men in the squad? Madness.
That's very true mate. Pre season I wanted Matt Phillips and Yanick Bolase
Quality wide players who could have been great signings for us. Surely if Gestede was on the radar anyone with an ounce of football knowledge would have been lining up quality wide players. It ain't fuckin rocket science is it?
Lennon and Townsend were mentioned by tactics in the summer ;D
Fox said midweek that the manager would tell them who he wanted and then they'd offer him alternatives as well. Who were the alternatives to wide players? The summer transfers and season in general makes no sense at all to me, it looks like a bunch of individuals doing their own thing and no cohesion.
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Playing out and out wingers would upset the balance of the team as Garde currently has it. We don't really need them, we got into plenty of positions to cross the ball today, it's just that too many of Richards/Cissokho/Westwood/Bacuna are shite at crossing.
The ability to cross a ball should not be the preserve of wingers, and competent crossing can be coached. Not that the likes of Lennon and Townsend are the greatest of crossers I have seen.
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I said after the Leicester game they should have spent five days practicing crossing the ball but obviously they didn't. Set plays or open play are just as bad, to keep hitting the first man is criminal for professional footballers. I coach an u13's team and we've got a lad who takes a brilliant corner, he gets more height and curl on the ball than Westwood and his floaty efforts.
The most frustrating thing about today is the other results actually went our way with Norwich and Newcastle losing, Sunderland and Bournemouth drawing and you'd expect Swansea to lose tomorrow. Big opportunity missed and we haven't got many left.
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On the other hand, if Swansea do lose, we'd have reduced the deficit from 10 to 9 points.
Everything's a long shot at this stage, but if we could shut out West Ham and beat Norwich for 4 points, you never know.
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motd, bet were on last
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motd, bet were on last
We are and Timmy is a pundit!
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motd, bet were on last
We are and Timmy is a pundit!
Two very good reasons to give it a miss!
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Going down with a whimper.
Really? A good striker and a referee with eyes, and we could have easily won.
Jesus, west brom are shit.
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Penalty all day long having just seen on MOTD
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I actually think that the last few matches have shown that we have a really pretty good coach in Garde. We've managed to get some sound results (i know we needed wins, I mean in the broader picture) which have been largely down to an improved defence, tactics which seem to suit the opposition (at least in terms of stopping their game) and which have seen us, in my opinion, look like a team that can complete properly with other Premier League teams.
That he has managed to this with a really, really shaky squad only improves my opinion of him. I hope he sticks around.
As for today, I thought we were well-organised and disciplined and, of course, lacking in real quality attacking-wise. I thought Lescott, Okore and Gueye were very good, Cissokho and Gil not bad at all either. Bacuna, Kozak and Westwood were very bad. The rest were alright.
I think it took him a while to work out his best team and formation, but since he has I agree that there have been positive signs. We are desperately short of real quality in the final third and there isn't really anything he can do about that.
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Penalty all day long having just seen on MOTD
But not given - again
Too little, too late
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I've only seen the highlights but boy does it show up how poor we are up front. Lots of decent play going on outside the box but as soon as the ball's played in theres no one on the end of it. Just sums up our season really.
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We are useless once the ball crosses the halfway line.
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I've only seen the highlights but boy does it show up how poor we are up front. Lots of decent play going on outside the box but as soon as the ball's played in theres no one on the end of it. Just sums up our season really.
And it makes the fact that we haven't signed a striker, even on loan, all the more strange. We deserved all three points against Leicester and Smethwick, and four more points on the board would make things look a whole lot less bleak than they do now.
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As for the non pen, Jesus Christ it was as clear cut as you will ever see. What the hell was the ref thinking? We were robbed there.
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I've only seen the highlights but boy does it show up how poor we are up front. Lots of decent play going on outside the box but as soon as the ball's played in theres no one on the end of it. Just sums up our season really.
And it makes the fact that we haven't signed a striker, even on loan, all the more strange. We deserved all three points against Leicester and Smethwick, and four more points on the board would make things look a whole lot less bleak than they do now.
Preaching to the converted here, Risso.
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Exactly how I see it, risso & sh.
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I've only seen the highlights but boy does it show up how poor we are up front. Lots of decent play going on outside the box but as soon as the ball's played in theres no one on the end of it. Just sums up our season really.
I was at the game and you are right in your summation. I was bored rigid. Normally the proximity of the Smethwick is enough to stir up old emotions and generate some adrenaline, but I was playing chess on my droid for much of the game while singing fuck the albion.
On a bright note, the Bears have an early trip to Lords in the County Championship.
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I would hazard a guess that we have approached a number of players and been told no thanks, what's the point of Garde getting players he doesn't think are good enough? haven't we had enough dross to last us a life time. If there are no decent players willing to come so be it.
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This is a lower mid table Premier League team and may be the best Championship side ever. We now have a decent manager after all of the previous crap!
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Fox said midweek that the manager would tell them who he wanted and then they'd offer him alternatives as well. Who were the alternatives to wide players?
Presumably Traore and Ayew. With the thought that Amavi would be doing his fair share of crossing.
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I had recorded the game so watched it just to be able to talk about it. The thing that springs to mind is if every Villa player wanted the ball as much as Gil we would be a much better side, he made space wherever he went on the pitch the problem is that all that effort is wasted if
the midfielders don't commit to getting in the box. Thought Richards looked much better at full back and there's no doubt in my mind he was playing to instructions. I hope somewhere on the planet there is a decent centre forward available we so need one.
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There is a brilliant centre forward ROBBO and he is on our books. Problem is he has a broken metatarsal.
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Penalty all day long having just seen on MOTD
But not given - again
Too little, too late
True but two pens we've been denied would be 6 points and the table would look a lot better
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Penalty all day long having just seen on MOTD
But not given - again
Too little, too late
True but two pens we've been denied would be 6 points and the table would look a lot better
Both as clear as clear for me. The way we are though I'm not so sure we would have scored them both! We clearly need better options up front now. Garde has seen that Gabby isn't the answer and Kozak and Sinclair are lacking too so we are desperately short and it's costing us dearly.
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On the other hand, if Swansea do lose, we'd have reduced the deficit from 10 to 9 points.
Everything's a long shot at this stage, but if we could shut out West Ham and beat Norwich for 4 points, you never know.
IF my Auntie had a pair of bollocks she'd be my uncle
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Watched this one in the boozer. You could tell 10 minutes in that it had a draw written all over it. We were the better side without looking like scoring. It's a point but we do need wins and it's a kind of missed opportunity because they were the worst team we've played this season, they were truly terrible.
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Just flicked over to wetbum.com, they're more depressed than us. Some of them saying they'd rather get relegated than watch that turgid shit every week. I'd love to sell them our relegation tickets.
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For the first time ever I would consider relegation as a lesser evil than having to watch the Albion every week. They're an abomination and prolonged exposure to that team may cause blindness.
Football is a hobby; it's meant to be joyous and fun. They're the antheisis of that. They're sub-Stoke.
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I watched the game earlier and although we're hardly in a position to throw stones the Bitters really are shite. I'll be surprised if Pulis is there next season.
His comments about us afterwards were so smalltime I'm almost embarrassed for them.
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His comments about us afterwards were so smalltime I'm almost embarrassed for them.
I read those this morning as well. It was his way of papering over the embarrassment of having no shots on goal at home.
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Defence was a big plus, if fit I think that's the four to play, if we can get Veretout back into the eleven and a decent forward on loan then we might start picking up a few more points.
I must confess that it took a few replays to see that it was a clear penalty so I can't blame the ref for not seeing it, at normal pace I wouldn't have given it either.
It's a bit of a double edged sword starting to pick up a bit of form as other clubs will be looking at players we want to keep thinking that they can actually play well in the PL.
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Penalty all day long having just seen on MOTD
But not given - again
Too little, too late
True but two pens we've been denied would be 6 points and the table would look a lot better
Both as clear as clear for me. The way we are though I'm not so sure we would have scored them both! We clearly need better options up front now. Garde has seen that Gabby isn't the answer and Kozak and Sinclair are lacking too so we are desperately short and it's costing us dearly.
It would be 4 extra points, as we got 2 draws rather than wins.
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I only saw the 'highlights' on MOTD. We appeared to possess the cutting-edge of a small, non-setting jelly. I feel sorry for Mr G - as he's seemingly managed to sort out our defensive frailties using those he inherited: but he's got no striking resources that we're oh-so-desperately crying out for. Signing a quality forward is obviously the bare minimum in this window, but I fear it's about as likely as Westwood taking a decent corner. A nailed-on pen though - which we'd probably have been awarded if we weren't rock bottom &/or the Ref had been using his Guide Dog. Still, at least we aren't Olbeyun supporters suffering Pulis's abomination of the beautiful game. Every cloud...
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#AVFC team v #WBA: Bunn, Richards, Okore, Lescott, Cissokho, Bacuna, Gana, Westwood, Gil, Ayew, Kozak. #WBAAVL
Now adding Veretout and Gestede who by the way was only on the pitch for a few minutes can someone tell me where the £84m of talent is there?
Is he taking the piss?
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#AVFC team v #WBA: Bunn, Richards, Okore, Lescott, Cissokho, Bacuna, Gana, Westwood, Gil, Ayew, Kozak. #WBAAVL
Now adding Veretout and Gestede who by the way was only on the pitch for a few minutes can someone tell me where the £84m of talent is there?
Is he taking the piss?
He is just deflecting blame
He also mentioned amount of games they played and they are looking to stay in the league so every point matters...
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#AVFC team v #WBA: Bunn, Richards, Okore, Lescott, Cissokho, Bacuna, Gana, Westwood, Gil, Ayew, Kozak. #WBAAVL
Now adding Veretout and Gestede who by the way was only on the pitch for a few minutes can someone tell me where the £84m of talent is there?
Is he taking the piss?
He is just deflecting blame
He also mentioned amount of games they played and they are looking to stay in the league so every point matters...
Tony Penis is an expert at deflecting the blame for his mind numbing brand of anti football. It's usually the refs fault. For someone with an awful lot to say about the rights and wrongs of refereeing decisions he had nothing to say about the blatant pen that lanky streak of piss Olson should of conceded.
For me Tony Pulis is a bullshitter of the highest order. If he ever got given the Villa Park job I would not set a foot inside the ground.
As the saying goes "if West Brom were playing in my back garden I would draw the curtains"
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I get that set of players to 46 million. Considering they spent 6 on Anichebe, 12m on Rondon, 6m on Evans , 8m on Chester on the bench, 4 on Foster etc I don't think they would be far off. Pulis was looking for a reason that they were so defensive and poor they made is look good.
Anyone after watching that game that would sooner have Pulis than Garde needs a good word with themselves.
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I would however, much prefer their league position
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I would however, much prefer their league position
10/10 for stating the obvious.
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I would however, much prefer their league position
10/10 for stating the obvious.
Lol...
So would I, but not if it meant being managed by Pulis
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Pulis has fallen into the trap that the Albion supporters have. They are fkin jealous of us..To them we are the people they want to be like.We may have our ups and downs but they know ultimately their place in the pecking order.
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What an awful game of football - West Midlands football is in a seriously shite state of affairs.
Absolutely fuming with Tony Pulis - I cannot ****** stand him at times. Why we settle for a 0-0 against a team who aren't far off dead and buried and cannot win a game of football is beyond me. You were by the far the better side and should have won the game. In hindsight, it'll be a better point for us than yourselves.
You should have had a penalty (stonewall) and Richards should have been sent off too. Lescott and Okore were very good and bullied our forwards although Rondon was left isolated with no support whatsoever.
Aside from that there wasn't much else to comment on. We were a typical Pulis side and you had plenty of industry but very little quality. Despite all your possession I never feared that a goal was coming, thankfully.
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#AVFC team v #WBA: Bunn, Richards, Okore, Lescott, Cissokho, Bacuna, Gana, Westwood, Gil, Ayew, Kozak. #WBAAVL
Now adding Veretout and Gestede who by the way was only on the pitch for a few minutes can someone tell me where the £84m of talent is there?
Is he taking the piss?
He is just deflecting blame
He also mentioned amount of games they played and they are looking to stay in the league so every point matters...
Ignore him.
He comes out with pointless rubbish every week purely to deflect the blame.
He patronises supporters every week to dumb down expectations and drag everybody else down to his mind-numbing style of football.
And then we get the standard "first class" and "worked very aaard" to cover up how shite we are.
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Fair enough. His comments about our £84m squad somehow reminded me of Sherwoods bullshit about deliberately playing the long ball against Blues in the first half of the Cup game.
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Albion spent money than us in the summer given they didn't sell Berahino in the end.
Rondon was about 12m wasn't he? Good striker who should do well in this league but being stifiled by PulisBall.
And they also have an 8m defender who can't get off the bench, James Chester.
Johnny Evans was about 7m aswell although he's been excellent, would've loved him here.
So yeah 30m.
The trouble with Pulis is he's very much from the MON mould of spending huge amounts on limited safety first British players. Yes it's good enough to keep you up and I respect him for that but eventually fans want more.
You see that at Stoke. Despite always keeping them in the premier league, they didn't once finish in the top half under him. Mark Hughes comes in and comfortably does it despite spending way less than Pulis and playing much better football.
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What an awful game of football - West Midlands football is in a seriously shite state of affairs.
Absolutely fuming with Tony Pulis - I cannot ****** stand him at times. Why we settle for a 0-0 against a team who aren't far off dead and buried and cannot win a game of football is beyond me. You were by the far the better side and should have won the game. In hindsight, it'll be a better point for us than yourselves.
You should have had a penalty (stonewall) and Richards should have been sent off too. Lescott and Okore were very good and bullied our forwards although Rondon was left isolated with no support whatsoever.
Aside from that there wasn't much else to comment on. We were a typical Pulis side and you had plenty of industry but very little quality. Despite all your possession I never feared that a goal was coming, thankfully.
I'd have to say thats a fair assessment of the game and of the shocking state of football in these parts. I don't see Pulis lasting too long. He is good at setting teams up to win and that's it. He doesn't care that football is meant to be entertaining. But your board knew that when they gave him the job. He does what it says on the tin.
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Albion spent money than us in the summer given they didn't sell Berahino in the end.
Rondon was about 12m wasn't he? Good striker who should do well in this league but being stifiled by PulisBall.
And they also have an 8m defender who can't get off the bench, James Chester.
Johnny Evans was about 7m aswell although he's been excellent, would've loved him here.
So yeah 30m.
The trouble with Pulis is he's very much from the MON mould of spending huge amounts on limited safety first British players. Yes it's good enough to keep you up and I respect him for that but eventually fans want more.
You see that at Stoke. Despite always keeping them in the premier league, they didn't once finish in the top half under him. Mark Hughes comes in and comfortably does it despite spending way less than Pulis and playing much better football.
I agree with you here.
Pulis laid a solid foundation at Stoke for Hughes to come in and build on. The spine of the Stoke side and back four was largely built by Pulis and hasn't needed any major repair work. Hughes simply managed to come in, spend some money on some forward players and Stoke have been better for it.
I'm hoping Pulis will do the same here - I don't think I could stomach five more years (as he wants) of this mind-numbing football. Unfortunately, he is pretty much a guarantee to keep us up and that will please the chairman. The fact that fans won't be renewing next year (I'm debating mine) won't bother him at all.
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The thing is though Pulis kept on banging on at Stoke about not having the funds to kick on...and when he did in summer 2011 he spend 10m on Crouch (done a good job for Stoke but still not going to get anything back given his age), 6m on Jerome and 8m on Wilson Palacios.
His range of targets is so narrow, he'd never have signed people like Bojan and Arnautovic in a million years.
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Typical fucking Albion too. A massive queue to get through the turnstiles at five past three. Every single time we go to that rat hole of a ground, they can't handle a crowd.
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I would however, much prefer their league position
10/10 for stating the obvious.
Lol...
So would I, but not if it meant being managed by Pulis
Pulis is the footballing equivalent of the anti-Christ. I can sum this up in one.
I would rather have McLeish back. There I've said it.
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I would however, much prefer their league position
10/10 for stating the obvious.
Lol...
So would I, but not if it meant being managed by Pulis
Pulis is the footballing equivalent of the anti-Christ. I can sum this up in one.
I would rather have McLeish back. There I've said it.
You know, so would I. At least he didn't wear a fucking cap.
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I would however, much prefer their league position
10/10 for stating the obvious.
Lol...
So would I, but not if it meant being managed by Pulis
Pulis is the footballing equivalent of the anti-Christ. I can sum this up in one.
I would rather have McLeish back. There I've said it.
You know, so would I. At least he didn't wear a fucking cap.
Lol. It is annoying that fucking cap.
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He is from Newport, has spent a chunk of his life in Stoke and is now in West Bromwich, where such attire is considered haute courier.
I cut him some slack if he wasn't such a knob.
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What an awful game of football - West Midlands football is in a seriously shite state of affairs.
Absolutely fuming with Tony Pulis - I cannot ****** stand him at times. Why we settle for a 0-0 against a team who aren't far off dead and buried and cannot win a game of football is beyond me. You were by the far the better side and should have won the game. In hindsight, it'll be a better point for us than yourselves.
You should have had a penalty (stonewall) and Richards should have been sent off too. Lescott and Okore were very good and bullied our forwards although Rondon was left isolated with no support whatsoever.
Aside from that there wasn't much else to comment on. We were a typical Pulis side and you had plenty of industry but very little quality. Despite all your possession I never feared that a goal was coming, thankfully.
There's not a thing I'd disagree with there.
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Albion spent money than us in the summer given they didn't sell Berahino in the end.
Rondon was about 12m wasn't he? Good striker who should do well in this league but being stifiled by PulisBall.
And they also have an 8m defender who can't get off the bench, James Chester.
Johnny Evans was about 7m aswell although he's been excellent, would've loved him here.
So yeah 30m.
The trouble with Pulis is he's very much from the MON mould of spending huge amounts on limited safety first British players. Yes it's good enough to keep you up and I respect him for that but eventually fans want more.
You see that at Stoke. Despite always keeping them in the premier league, they didn't once finish in the top half under him. Mark Hughes comes in and comfortably does it despite spending way less than Pulis and playing much better football.
I agree with you here.
Pulis laid a solid foundation at Stoke for Hughes to come in and build on. The spine of the Stoke side and back four was largely built by Pulis and hasn't needed any major repair work. Hughes simply managed to come in, spend some money on some forward players and Stoke have been better for it.
I'm hoping Pulis will do the same here - I don't think I could stomach five more years (as he wants) of this mind-numbing football. Unfortunately, he is pretty much a guarantee to keep us up and that will please the chairman. The fact that fans won't be renewing next year (I'm debating mine) won't bother him at all.
He'll be gone this summer.
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Well I for one, would be very happy.
I'm half hoping that Jeremy can pull off one of his specials of falling out with a manager and getting them to resign.
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Watched this one in the boozer. You could tell 10 minutes in that it had a draw written all over it. We were the better side without looking like scoring. It's a point but we do need wins and it's a kind of missed opportunity because they were the worst team we've played this season, they were truly terrible.
which one
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Typical fucking Albion too. A massive queue to get through the turnstiles at five past three. Every single time we go to that rat hole of a ground, they can't handle a crowd.
it was terrible at half time , by the time i got down the stairs and in the bogs for a piss the 2nd half was starting
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I see Foster made the Times team of the week. Admittedly he had more to do than Bunn, but to make him keeper of the week does rather flatter our strikers