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Title: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on December 07, 2015, 06:45:20 PM
Sunday 13.12.15 1.30pm KO

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Seek out one of our friendly sellers. Preferably me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: in exile on December 07, 2015, 06:53:39 PM
Will anyone be selling outside of the North Stand?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on December 07, 2015, 06:54:48 PM
I would assume so. Usual pitches for everyone, I hope.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 07, 2015, 06:55:19 PM
Will anyone be selling outside of the North Stand?

Try getting past us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 07, 2015, 06:55:58 PM
I assume i'll be by the North Stand car park on Witton Lane as usual.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on December 07, 2015, 06:58:53 PM
Hopefully under the tree on the opposite side of Trinity Road from where Greg sells outside the gates in front of the McGregor statue for me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on December 07, 2015, 06:59:38 PM
Lets rewind to this: https://youtu.be/kB7YhITamOI

May the planets align and Rudi Gestede and Jordan Ayew to have the gifts of Dion Dublin and Julian Joachim bestowed upon them respectively.

Bergkamp mind...what a player.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: mal on December 07, 2015, 07:07:07 PM
team
             Guzan
Richards Okore Lescott Hutton

       Clark  Sanchez
Ayew          Gil            Sinclair
        Agbonlahor
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Smirker on December 07, 2015, 07:07:09 PM
Got a feeling we are going to win this one.

3-1 Villa, Grealish to score.

Fuck the fuckers.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on December 07, 2015, 07:12:50 PM
I wouldn't be shocked if we beat these maybe 1-0 and then drew with the barcodes 0-0.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on December 07, 2015, 07:14:16 PM
Neither would I
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Skerra on December 07, 2015, 07:23:42 PM
For what it's worth, amazingly I have voted that we will win this one. Just have a feelin.

Team for me:

                                                                                  Guzan

                         Richards                  Okore                                Clark                       Hutton

                                                                                 
                         Adama                      Sanchez                           Veretout                Gana

                                                                               Gil

                                                                              Ayew

Subs: Bunn, Sinclair, Bacuna, Kozak, Lescott




                                     
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on December 07, 2015, 07:27:19 PM
Guzan might have to move over a bit.


What is it with this spellchecker????????
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on December 07, 2015, 07:27:56 PM
Who?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 07, 2015, 07:29:07 PM
At least Clarke is back for this one. I'd have Kojak on the bench as well.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on December 07, 2015, 07:29:22 PM
Exactly. Who the hell is Guzman and why does the iPad love his name!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: l_mckay on December 07, 2015, 07:40:43 PM
Get stuck into these like Norwich did the other week and we can win this,especially with the players they have out. 2-1 villa win
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on December 07, 2015, 08:00:41 PM
havent beaten them at home since 1998, shocking defence so a 3 nil loss for me unfortunately
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LukeJames on December 07, 2015, 08:17:12 PM
Realistically we'll probably take another twatting of these but for some reason, unbeknown too me, I think were going to win 1-0.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Jameson on December 07, 2015, 08:28:50 PM
Exactly. Who the hell is Guzman and why does the iPad love his name!

Who the hell is Clarke as well?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Jameson on December 07, 2015, 08:29:37 PM
At least Clarke is back for this one.

Meant to quote this!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on December 07, 2015, 08:32:50 PM
At least Clarke is back for this one. I'd have Kojak on the bench as well.

Clarke is the main man yo.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on December 07, 2015, 08:33:37 PM
I assume i'll be by the North Stand car park on Witton Lane as usual.
See you there.  (I hope Legion isn't listening)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on December 07, 2015, 08:34:33 PM
I am...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on December 07, 2015, 08:34:52 PM
Alternative Villa team.

Guzman, Clarke....Lahm (Hutton dressed as)...
The other Sanchez
The other Ayew...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on December 07, 2015, 08:38:39 PM
Sunday 13.12.15 1.30pm KO

H&V Christmas compendium will be on-sale outside the ground. A perfect gift to yourself and other family members, as well as friends and neighbours.

Seek out one of our friendly sellers. Preferably me.
What's the big idea starting a pre-match thread on a Monday? Especially for a Sunday match!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on December 07, 2015, 08:40:34 PM
I am...
I didn't mean what I said to PWS ...HONEST!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 07, 2015, 08:42:11 PM
I love you more than Legion does!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on December 07, 2015, 08:47:09 PM
Oh Noooooo I have gone and done it now!!  (tells self to buy two and say nothing)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: frank black on December 07, 2015, 08:59:45 PM
We are just terrible and Arsenal will see us off quite easily.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: in exile on December 07, 2015, 09:07:53 PM
Will anyone be selling outside of the North Stand?

Try getting past us.
I'll run over your feet with the wife's wheelchair ;D
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on December 07, 2015, 09:12:03 PM
For what it's worth, amazingly I have voted that we will win this one. Just have a feelin.

Team for me:

                                                                                  Guzan

                         Richards                  Okore                                Clark                       Hutton

                                                                                 
                         Adama                      Sanchez                           Veretout                Gana

                                                                               Gil

                                                                              Ayew

Subs: Bunn, Sinclair, Bacuna, Kozak, Lescott
                                   

Guzan might have to move over a bit.


What is it with this spellchecker????????

It's OK, he's just getting ready for a free kick that, Oh Bollocks! Beaten at the far post again.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CT on December 07, 2015, 09:13:00 PM
4-0 Villa.

We'll all be asking "why didn't we do this back in May".
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on December 07, 2015, 10:26:05 PM
I just cant see any thing other than a lot of Villa huff and puff at the start, Arsenal to score and we will collapse. Ayew looks like our only goalscorer while they have loads.  0-3
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on December 07, 2015, 11:00:30 PM
Looking at the Bournemouth and Newcastle results must give us a glimmar of hope. We need that sort of result. Ultimately I think results like that tended to be the difference for us between staying up and going down under Lambert. When we're supposed to win we almost never bloody do. We've got to pull a few pants down and pick up unexpected points.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: preston28 on December 07, 2015, 11:05:45 PM
Much as I hope we can get 3 points or even one our defence is still too porous to stop Arsenal. 2-0 defeat with even more importance of the games against Newcastle, Sunderland & Norwich.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: itbrvilla on December 08, 2015, 08:05:46 AM
I fear a pumping.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on December 08, 2015, 08:35:00 AM
0-4  :(
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on December 08, 2015, 09:01:22 AM
Sunday 13.12.15 1.30pm KO

H&V Christmas compendium will be on-sale outside the ground. A perfect gift to yourself and other family members, as well as friends and neighbours.

Seek out one of our friendly sellers. Preferably me.
What's the big idea starting a pre-match thread on a Monday? Especially for a Sunday match!

Anybody would think that some senior members of this forum want to flog something to the rest of us  ;)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on December 08, 2015, 09:02:49 AM
Oh Noooooo I have gone and done it now!!  (tells self to buy two and say nothing)

If Mr Shin or Legion appear to have a security guard, don't forget to say hello
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VicMackey on December 08, 2015, 09:11:03 AM
They tonked us last season more than once and we were a better team then...  So I expect either a battering or a spanking.  0-3. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on December 08, 2015, 09:29:45 AM
We'll battle first half and they'll miss a host of chances. They'll score early on second half, we'll have to open up a bit more and we'll lose 0-3.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on December 08, 2015, 10:32:26 AM
We'll battle first half and they'll miss a host of chances. They'll score early on second half, we'll have to open up a bit more and we'll lose 0-3.
That sounds like last year's fixture, which I attended. No, hang on I don't remember us battling. I remember us imploding all over the park and Arsenal tonking us.

1-1. A draw prediction makes me happy. Until KO at least.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on December 08, 2015, 10:49:46 AM
Has Wenger ever managed in the Premier League against a side managed by one of his old players?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: manic-road on December 08, 2015, 10:58:35 AM
I think we will lose 0-3 even though they have there best players injured.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on December 08, 2015, 10:59:40 AM
Has Wenger ever managed in the Premier League against a side managed by one of his old players?

Perhaps Tony Adams if he was at Portsmouth long enough to play against Arsenal?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on December 08, 2015, 11:03:55 AM
Has Wenger ever managed in the Premier League against a side managed by one of his old players?

Perhaps Tony Adams if he was at Portsmouth long enough to play against Arsenal?

That's a great shout

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/7788406.stm
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on December 08, 2015, 11:27:41 AM
Has Wenger ever managed in the Premier League against a side managed by one of his old players?

Perhaps Tony Adams if he was at Portsmouth long enough to play against Arsenal?

That's a great shout

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/7788406.stm

Remember when he was definitely definitely going to become Villa manager? Perhaps our current predicament could be worse after all.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on December 08, 2015, 11:41:21 AM
Has Wenger ever managed in the Premier League against a side managed by one of his old players?

Perhaps Tony Adams if he was at Portsmouth long enough to play against Arsenal?

That's a great shout

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/7788406.stm

Remember when he was definitely definitely going to become Villa manager? Perhaps Proof our current predicament could be worse after all.

Fixed.

Funny how Adams wasn't a name mentioned by Redknapp and Co during all the shit following Sherwood's sacking.

Oh, he's someone who actually makes Sherwood look astute you say?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on December 08, 2015, 12:45:29 PM
In three games last year they put twelve past us without reply. Even with their load of injuries I think they'll still see us off easily. 3-1 to them, and another depressing trudge across Aston Park at half three
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on December 08, 2015, 12:48:47 PM
First home win of the season for us.

Scoring first will be important to build on the confidence, so a quicker start is imperative.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on December 08, 2015, 12:54:27 PM
Think we'll lose this one but win the next four (five including the cup)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lobsterboy on December 08, 2015, 12:54:45 PM
Us 1 Them 3

It'll be interesting to see if Okore and Lescott get another chance at centre back with Clark and hopefully Richards available again - it will make sod all difference to the overall result but will still be interesting to see!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on December 08, 2015, 01:14:30 PM
In three games last year they put twelve past us without reply. Even with their load of injuries I think they'll still see us off easily. 3-1 to them, and another depressing trudge across Aston Park at half three

At least it will be in the light CJ - after watching so much s**t you don't want to go stepping in it as well!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on December 08, 2015, 01:16:55 PM
Can't see where our goal will come from so I predict nil something
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mossie Hennebry on December 08, 2015, 02:14:10 PM
Even with all their injuries, they still have Ozil and Ramsey, and both are on fire at the minute. I think Giroud is good for a goal away from home. Lescott has earned his place for his desire alone, start an actual left back in Illori. We're at home, so lets get one or two anyway, Them to score early and often, 2-4.

Guzan
Hutton Richards Lescott Illori
Gana  Sanchez Vertout
Adama Ayew Gil

Subs: Bunn, Clark, Bacuna, Gabby, Gestede, Grealish, Kinsella.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on December 08, 2015, 02:53:41 PM
I like that team Mossie but would you drop Okore? I'd keep him in and either drop Lescott, or shift Richards to right back.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CT Villan on December 08, 2015, 03:08:10 PM

Guzan
Hutton Richards Lescott Illori
Gana  Sanchez Vertout
Adama Ayew Gil

Subs: Bunn, Clark, Bacuna, Gabby, Gestede, Grealish, Kinsella.


Richards to right back, keep Okore/Lescott in the middle and to be seasonal, play a 4-3-2-1 christmas tree formation.

...and as much as I hate to say it, Westwood needs to be on the bench as back-up for the centre-mids...and maybe give Kozak some hope by making him a sub too. So Kinsella and Gabby are out.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on December 08, 2015, 04:13:07 PM
Can't see us getting anything 0-2 .
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mossie Hennebry on December 08, 2015, 05:32:46 PM
I think you have to keep both Hutton and Lescott in, we need their enthusiasm. Kozak has been overlooked by too many managers to consider him anything other than a beaten docket. Westwood looks downbeat also - I would exclude him because he lacks exactly what Hutton and Lescott provide. Ayew struggles on his own up top, he needs a foil. More than anything, I want to see some fight this weekend.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: class-of-82 on December 08, 2015, 05:35:08 PM
Let's hope the Greeks send em out the champs league and we finish em off on Sunday, ayew hat trick for me
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on December 08, 2015, 08:05:00 PM
Guzan might have to move over a bit.


What is it with this spellchecker????????
If he breaks his habit of gifting  a goal a game away I'll be happy.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ACVilla on December 08, 2015, 08:25:46 PM
Villa win 1-0, Gestede 76.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ez on December 08, 2015, 08:27:51 PM
We have no choice but to go for the win and we'll get picked off on the breakaways. 0-3.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: russon on December 08, 2015, 09:18:17 PM
Villa win 1-0, Gestede 76.
That prediction started badly and went downhill from there. You appear to be suggesting that a) we'll win, b) a lampost will score for us and c) that we'll keep a clean sheet against free scoring Arsenal despite a back line that leaks like a tap. I'd start again if I were you AC.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ACVilla on December 08, 2015, 09:20:45 PM
Villa win 1-0, Gestede 76.
That prediction started badly and went downhill from there. You appear to be suggesting that a) we'll win, b) a lampost will score for us and c) that we'll keep a clean sheet against free scoring Arsenal despite a back line that leaks like a tap. I'd start again if I were you AC.
Check the betting thread, you'll see how bad I am at predicting football results. I wouldn't imagine we will have a huge upturn in fortunes on Sunday. If I tipped Villa here, had a bet on Arsenal to win you can all but guarantee it would be a draw.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: mallo on December 08, 2015, 10:53:06 PM
We'll do well to keep this less than 3. This is a watershed for me - collapse here and that shows no fight, scrap every inch for a sh*t 1-0 loss and I'd still believe. However, given the tendency for others to actually win odd games we realistically need to win one of the next 3, the rest doesn't matter after that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on December 08, 2015, 11:12:40 PM
Let's hope the Greeks send em out the champs league and we finish em off on Sunday, ayew hat trick for me

tough midweek game for Arsenal and they are struggling with injuries anyway

Sunderland were unlucky not to get a result off them last weekend, Arsenal back four seemed to have zero protection so should be space for the likes of Veretout to exploit. We are starting to improve going forward. Ayew and Veretout looking dangerous up top, Sinclair and Gestede offer zilch though so best not to start both. 6/1 seems a very big price on us imo.

Although I expect Theo Walcott to be on the right wing and to have a field day

Think we will score a couple, might not be enough though. 2-2, Bacuna to get sent off

-------------Guzan
Richards, Okore, Clark, TBD (Bacuna)
-------Sanchez, Gueye----
--Traore, Veretout, Sinclair
------------Ayew-------

would have Grealish back on the bench, think with Richards at right back we could afford to chance Traore on the right. Very harsh to drop Hutton, gives it everything but Richards would be a lot better on the ball. Left back is likely to be Bacuna who I have zero confidence in back there. Sinclair probably our best bet to put a shift in ahead of Bacuna but thats the position Grealish should be coming in for.

Bunn, Hutton, Lescott, Westwood, Grealish, Just-Head, Flabby
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on December 08, 2015, 11:22:25 PM
Let's hope the Greeks send em out the champs league and we finish em off on Sunday, ayew hat trick for me

tough midweek game for Arsenal and they are struggling with injuries anyway

Sunderland were unlucky not to get a result off them last weekend, Arsenal back four seemed to have zero protection so should be space for the likes of Veretout to exploit. We are starting to improve going forward. Ayew and Veretout looking dangerous up top, Sinclair and Gestede offer zilch though so best not to start both. 6/1 seems a very big price on us imo.

Although I expect Theo Walcott to be on the right wing and to have a field day

Think we will score a couple, might not be enough though. 2-2, Bacuna to get sent off

-------------Guzan
Richards, Okore, Clark, TBD (Bacuna)
-------Sanchez, Gueye----
--Traore, Veretout, Sinclair
------------Ayew-------

would have Grealish back on the bench, think with Richards at right back we could afford to chance Traore on the right. Very harsh to drop Hutton, gives it everything but Richards would be a lot better on the ball. Left back is likely to be Bacuna who I have zero confidence in back there. Sinclair probably our best bet to put a shift in ahead of Bacuna but thats the position Grealish should be coming in for.

Bunn, Hutton, Lescott, Westwood, Grealish, Just-Head, Flabby

Yep, quite like the look of that team.  Still think Ayew would be more suited cutting in from the left, but he's probably our best striker option at the moment.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on December 09, 2015, 12:07:03 AM
Another afternoon of pain. Consolation being we are on the piss in town afterwards. Again. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: barossavilla on December 09, 2015, 05:08:28 AM
Just-Head that is just brilliant
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on December 09, 2015, 10:36:09 AM
Flabby is not bad either.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on December 09, 2015, 10:39:02 AM
Even with all their injuries, they still have Ozil and Ramsey, and both are on fire at the minute. I think Giroud is good for a goal away from home. Lescott has earned his place for his desire alone, start an actual left back in Illori. We're at home, so lets get one or two anyway, Them to score early and often, 2-4.

Guzan
Hutton Richards Lescott Illori
Gana  Sanchez Vertout
Adama Ayew Gil

Subs: Bunn, Clark, Bacuna, Gabby, Gestede, Grealish, Kinsella.



Not a bad team.kozak for gabby thou and okore shouldnt be dropped
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Breezeblock on December 09, 2015, 11:49:03 AM
I try to be optimistic but i'm afraid I can't see anything other than a full-on dicking. At least 3, probably more. I'd rip anyone's arm off for a nil-nil right now!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: mattjpa on December 09, 2015, 12:07:28 PM
If Garde is going to have much of an effect I would expect to start seeing it about now. We had some bad luck against Watford and some good luck against Southampton. Hell, if Ashley Westwood hadnt been so scared of getting clattered and instead had concentrated on his shot we could have quite conceivably won that game.

We cant keep relying on luck to decide how many points we are going to come away with from a game. We need that level of ruthlessness bringing in so that the 1 or 2 really good chances we create are taken and any bad luck we suffer in the last 10minutes does not affect the points.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on December 09, 2015, 01:06:58 PM
Mind you, no-one gave us a chance against Man City either. It'll be tough but keep it tight at the back and we could snatch a draw.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on December 09, 2015, 01:39:14 PM
Mind you, no-one gave us a chance against Man City either. It'll be tough but keep it tight at the back and we could snatch a draw.

Only problem is that we've got ourselves in to a position where we probably need to start getting some wins from these type of games. It's a bit like Bournemouth and Newcastle winning last week, we need to pull off a few shock wins to get us back into the mix.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on December 09, 2015, 01:49:15 PM
We are 11/2 to win according to Paddy Power
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on December 09, 2015, 02:03:59 PM
Draw

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on December 09, 2015, 04:57:42 PM
A few wins around Christmas time Villa, come on, bit of cheer for us suffering fans.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: john e on December 09, 2015, 05:15:07 PM
i'm hoping for a Christmas miracle
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: gpbarr on December 09, 2015, 05:20:02 PM
More chance of Santa and his eight reindeers landing on my roof than Villa getting anything out of this game.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on December 09, 2015, 06:53:47 PM
More chance of Santa and his eight reindeers landing on my roof than Villa getting anything out of this game.



I still believe in Father Christmas. I still believe in Aston Villa. Both will happen.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tom_Mc9? on December 09, 2015, 06:57:46 PM
Aston Villa 2-0 Arsenal.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: preston28 on December 09, 2015, 07:17:35 PM
A few wins around Christmas time Villa, come on, bit of cheer for us suffering fans.

Got my Tickets for the 2 North East games on 19th Dec & Jan 2nd. I think these are crucial away games that we just can't afford to lose. I'm hoping for at least 3 wins till the cup game at Wycombe to build some momentum & not be cut adrift.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on December 09, 2015, 08:51:35 PM
Villa 1 - Arsenal 4.

Heartbreak as we go ahead early only to get thrashed kicking the wind out of the team so the traditional Christmas collapse comes early.

We get a drubbing and go into the usual holiday losing streak.

Cheery bugger aint I? :)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on December 09, 2015, 09:12:06 PM
Watching them now, theyre going to batter us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Jameson on December 09, 2015, 09:18:33 PM
With the confidence knock they've taken tonight I can see us keeping them down to 2.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: DB on December 09, 2015, 10:50:19 PM
Actually, if they had lost tonight that may have been worse as they would want to put it right and have to go for the league. This win, could take their eye off the ball & be complacent. Ok, this is stretching it a bit.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on December 09, 2015, 11:10:07 PM
With the confidence knock they've taken tonight I can see us keeping them down to 2.

Great point well made.

You are talking about the first ten minutes, yes?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on December 09, 2015, 11:33:09 PM
Defeat
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on December 09, 2015, 11:34:02 PM
Watching them now, theyre going to batter us.

Yes, they have found their rhythm and are knocking balls inside the markers. You expect Ozil to do it when he is on song but they are all at  it, even Campbell. And Giroud has rediscovered his mojo.

A bad time to play them. Probably kicking them out of he game would be our best best hope, but that is not going to happen. I expect we will be eviscerated, deconstructed, obliterated, marmalised and well fracked.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on December 09, 2015, 11:42:33 PM
Perhaps they'll be a bit tired.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Walmley_Villa on December 10, 2015, 07:41:15 AM
Perhaps they'll be a bit tired.

They used to stay at Newhall Hotel here in Walmley, maybe I will go and set the smoke alarms off in the early hours of Sunday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on December 10, 2015, 08:21:18 AM
Got a feeling we are going to win this one.

3-1 Villa, Grealish to score.

Fuck the fuckers.

This for me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hillbilly on December 10, 2015, 09:27:27 AM
They will be Laurence Olivier and we will be Dustin Hoffman.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Big Dick Edwards on December 10, 2015, 09:38:19 AM
They will be Laurence Olivier and we will be Dustin Hoffman.

Dustin Hoffman won that battle in the end...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hillbilly on December 10, 2015, 12:16:40 PM
They will be Laurence Olivier and we will be Dustin Hoffman.

Dustin Hoffman won that battle in the end...
As will we. But we're gonna get some root canal work without anaesthetic this weekend.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on December 10, 2015, 12:18:27 PM
Hopefully it'll be a case of after the Lord mayor's show. A draw would be a great result.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on December 10, 2015, 04:53:07 PM
Perhaps they'll be a bit tired.

They used to stay at Newhall Hotel here in Walmley, maybe I will go and set the smoke alarms off in the early hours of Sunday.
Sounds like a plan. I won't tell!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Jameson on December 10, 2015, 05:13:14 PM
Perhaps they'll be a bit tired.

They used to stay at Newhall Hotel here in Walmley, maybe I will go and set the smoke alarms off in the early hours of Sunday.
Sounds like a plan. I won't tell!

Told this before but my ex worked on a few Primal Scream tours. They were playing a couple of nights at Brixton Academy and I went down for the weekend, quite by coincidence Liverpool who were playing Chelsea on the Sunday were staying in the same hotel as the band and crew, the tour manager just happened to be a massive Chelsea fan. After the gig and several refreshments it was established which rooms were booked out to the Liverpool squad and they received early morning calls throughout the night. They did look very bleary eyed in the morning and it may have contributed to the dull 0-0 draw they played out later in the day.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: class-of-82 on December 10, 2015, 07:30:19 PM
Also I know where Ozil lives so I can park my van across his drive
Cunning plan baldrick
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Steve kirk on December 10, 2015, 07:42:23 PM
Fuck every fucker there is to fuck, 3-2 Villa
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: passport1 on December 10, 2015, 11:44:19 PM
Just hope it is not as humiliating as Wembley.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on December 11, 2015, 08:24:05 AM
We're gonna win. 3-1.

They'll be drained after their Athens trip.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: AVH87 on December 11, 2015, 08:50:19 AM
We're gonna win. 3-1.

They'll be drained after their Athens trip.

Ahh yes, that 3 hour business class short-haul flight  ;)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: peter w on December 11, 2015, 09:17:22 AM
Every hour in the air is the equivalent of two on the ground. So, it'll be akin to a 7-8 hour journey. Which will explain why at 3-0 up and them taking their feet off the accelerator, it will appear as if we are coming back into it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on December 11, 2015, 09:27:44 AM
They were moaning about jet lag after their 15 minute flight to Norwich the other day.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: AVH87 on December 11, 2015, 09:31:53 AM
Arsenal's worst performances in the last few years have come at Stoke. Can we replicate a Stoke type performance? Not sure we have the players, but we need to be up and at 'em, in their faces, and a bit nastier than we normally are.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Big Dick Edwards on December 11, 2015, 10:26:00 AM
Arsenal's worst performances in the last few years have come at Stoke. Can we replicate a Stoke type performance? Not sure we have the players, but we need to be up and at 'em, in their faces, and a bit nastier than we normally are.

Don't know if Stoke is a fair analogy any more. They've come a long way from the Huth, Delap and Crouch period. They're all about Shaqiri, Bojan and Arnautovic now..
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: boboonthecorner on December 11, 2015, 10:41:25 AM
Given our desperation we need to be winning our home games, we can't even beat Watford so logic would say a hammering tomorrow. I hope I'm wrong, I don't think I will be.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dr Butler on December 11, 2015, 10:44:30 AM
Given our desperation we need to be winning our home games, we can't even beat Watford so logic would say a hammering tomorrow. I hope I'm wrong, I don't think I will be.

a Sunday hammering you mean...:)

a draw...a Vertout screamer for the Villa and a own goal for them...

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on December 11, 2015, 10:47:49 AM
Arsenal's worst performances in the last few years have come at Stoke. Can we replicate a Stoke type performance? Not sure we have the players, but we need to be up and at 'em, in their faces, and a bit nastier than we normally are.

We will know this in the first minute

if we sit deep and let them play like at wembley we are fucked

if we steam straight into them and give away a free kick 15 seconds in then we may have a chance
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: boboonthecorner on December 11, 2015, 10:49:46 AM
Given our desperation we need to be winning our home games, we can't even beat Watford so logic would say a hammering tomorrow. I hope I'm wrong, I don't think I will be.

a Sunday hammering you mean...:)

a draw...a Vertout screamer for the Villa and a own goal for them...

UTV
The Doc

Good point, this is an ideal game to kickstart the season and I would gladly dance around town stark bollock naked if we did.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on December 11, 2015, 10:52:00 AM
Relax. Arsenal will go easy on us after their midweek exertions. We'll get a creditable result on Sunday, a routine 0-3 home defeat after which we can hold our heads up high and push on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on December 11, 2015, 10:57:23 AM
Apparently that banner, banned by the FA for the Cup Final, will be making it's appearance on Sunday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on December 11, 2015, 11:01:18 AM
Apparently that banner, banned by the FA for the Cup Final, will be making it's appearance on Sunday.

How do you reckon The Aston Villa will get on in this match? 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on December 11, 2015, 11:28:11 AM
Apparently that banner, banned by the FA for the Cup Final, will be making it's appearance on Sunday.

How do you reckon The Aston Villa will get on in this match? 

Hopefully they'll fuck the fuckers.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on December 11, 2015, 11:35:43 AM
Is it true that if we don't beat Arsenal it's another record for us broken these last few pitiful years, our longest home run without a win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on December 11, 2015, 11:51:30 AM
We haven't beaten Arsenal at home in 17 years, not since Nigel Rogoff an RAF parachutist broke his leg falling off the roof of the old Trinity Road stand at half time dressed as Santa Claus.

Mind you, that near tragedy turned the game on its head, we were 0-2 down at half time and absolutely battered Arsenal second half, an incredible day, spookily Sunday 13th as well.

In the week before the game Arsene Wenger told Arsenal fans after a midweek game in Europe that they can't have caviar every week, sometimes they had to have sausages.  Hopefully Sunday Villa can rustle up some roast beef rather than gruel.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on December 11, 2015, 11:56:35 AM
Is it true that if we don't beat Arsenal it's another record for us broken these last few pitiful years, our longest home run without a win.

It is.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on December 11, 2015, 11:59:53 AM
Is it true that if we don't beat Arsenal it's another record for us broken these last few pitiful years, our longest home run without a win.

It is.

At least in a year or so we wont have any bad records left to break really unless we lose every single game we play for about 6 months.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: mattjpa on December 11, 2015, 12:35:50 PM
Arsenals away performance in Greece was pretty much the most complete away performance against good opposition in a hostile environment I have ever seen. Scintilating, clinical and controlling. In typical fashion they follow this game up with an away game against us. Does not bode well....
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on December 11, 2015, 01:04:30 PM
We haven't beaten Arsenal at home in 17 years, not since Nigel Rogoff an RAF parachutist broke his leg falling off the roof of the old Trinity Road stand at half time dressed as Santa Claus.

Mind you, that near tragedy turned the game on its head, we were 0-2 down at half time and absolutely battered Arsenal second half, an incredible day, spookily Sunday 13th as well.

In the week before the game Arsene Wenger told Arsenal fans after a midweek game in Europe that they can't have caviar every week, sometimes they had to have sausages.  Hopefully Sunday Villa can rustle up some roast beef rather than gruel.
more tea and sympathy i am afraid.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on December 11, 2015, 01:05:07 PM
2-2  though god knows how we are going to get two....or one...or nil for that matter!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on December 11, 2015, 01:07:01 PM
Is it true that if we don't beat Arsenal it's another record for us broken these last few pitiful years, our longest home run without a win.

It is.

At least in a year or so we wont have any bad records left to break really unless we lose every single game we play for about 6 months.

Don't put that past us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on December 11, 2015, 02:16:26 PM

2-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on December 11, 2015, 03:20:12 PM
Arsenals away performance in Greece was pretty much the most complete away performance against good opposition in a hostile environment I have ever seen. Scintilating, clinical and controlling. In typical fashion they follow this game up with an away game against us. Does not bode well....
A bit OTT there mate?  Yes Arsenal played well but olympiacos were not all that. Pretty poor in fact. We all know what Arsenal are like. Soft as shit southerners. If you stand off them and
 let them play (like we did at Wembley)they will take the piss. Get stuck in from the off (like Stoke) and anything can happen. Have we got the players to do that?  We'll soon find out.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Karl Bridges on December 11, 2015, 04:05:25 PM
1-6
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on December 11, 2015, 04:37:56 PM
I wonder if Garde will go the whole season without winning a game?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brian Taylor on December 11, 2015, 04:56:17 PM
Can't see a win but a point would feel good. Very good.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: McGraths Dry Cleaning on December 11, 2015, 05:16:22 PM
Whats the most any team has scored against us in a year? They're up to 9 so far. Every game I think we've hit bottom and are going to come out next game and get a result that will spur us on to a basic level of mediocrity. Thought the Man City game was it. Surely we are capable of a gutsy backs to the wall die for the cause game sooner or later that we go on and win?

1-0 Villa, Chris Price right at the end, a 20 year old me in the Clock End celebrating  ;)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on December 11, 2015, 05:40:45 PM
2-2  though god knows how we are going to get two....or one...or nil for that matter!

We scored 2 last home game...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on December 11, 2015, 06:08:37 PM
2-2  though god knows how we are going to get two....or one...or nil for that matter!

We scored 2 last home game...
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Scoring goals isn't our main problem. At times we look pretty decent going forward. With a solid defence we would be a top 10 team right now. But we do not have a solid defence. We have an error riddled flimsy back 4. And behind those beleaguered lot we have an even bigger problem. Brad Guzan. Enough said. Heart says Arsenal always flatter to deceive after a convincing win. 2-0 Villa. Head says 2-3 to them posers.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on December 11, 2015, 06:10:43 PM
2-2  though god knows how we are going to get two....or one...or nil for that matter!

We scored 2 last home game...
[/quote
Scoring goals isn't our main problem. At times we look pretty decent going forward. With a solid defence we would be a top 10 team right now. But we do not have a solid defence. We have an error riddled flimsy back 4. And behind those beleaguered lot we have an even bigger problem. Brad Guzan. Enough said. Heart says Arsenal always flatter to deceive after a convincing win. 2-0 Villa. Head says 2-3 to them posers.
I know I know. Another posting cock up from yours truly.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on December 11, 2015, 06:45:28 PM
You're doing well.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on December 11, 2015, 07:23:09 PM
Script for Sunday - Arsenal turn up at Villa Park a bit lethargic after their European exploits in the week,  but instead of putting pressure  on them  we let them coast along in second gear, knocking the ball around the back and midfield.  Something then clicks andArsenal get two quick goals  before half time effectively ending the game.  We rarely threaten in the second half and Arsenal go on to add another, possibly two in the last few minutes.  There then follows a massive circle jerk in the Sky studio  featuring some ex-Arsenal player over how great they are.

Please don't let this happen  lads!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LTA on December 11, 2015, 07:29:22 PM
Last time we beat Arsenal at home was on a Sunday and it was December 13th..........

I guess in our position you need to clutch any straw you can find.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: four fornicholl on December 11, 2015, 08:07:11 PM
just read the start of this thread,which one of you crazy cats was selling outside aston parish in the late 80s,early 90s,
ive got loads of really early editions
are they worth anything yet?
UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on December 11, 2015, 08:14:40 PM
Whats the most any team has scored against us in a year? They're up to 9 so far.

If you're talking calendar year Chelsea did 12 in 2012, 4-2 at Villa park, and then 8-0 over that especially miserable Xmas period the season after.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hoppo on December 11, 2015, 08:22:51 PM
My first game on The Holte was against these. Tony Woodcock scored 5, hated them ever since.
Villa 1 Arsenal 0.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: preston28 on December 11, 2015, 10:33:59 PM
I remember us beating them 5-1 on a Wednesday night 1979 perhaps? They went 1-0 up (Frank Stapleton) then we got 5. John Deehan I think got a hat trick and and someone (memory fade) got a brace? O'Leary played that for them too.
Oh for that result on Sunday....
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on December 11, 2015, 10:50:07 PM
I remember us beating them 5-1 on a Wednesday night 1979 perhaps? They went 1-0 up (Frank Stapleton) then we got 5. John Deehan I think got a hat trick and and someone (memory fade) got a brace? O'Leary played that for them too.
Oh for that result on Sunday....

Gary Shelton. I think Forest were playing i n Europe and it was the main game on Radio 2 and updates were coming in on the Villa game which brought anhuge smile to my face. Remember because bloke had similar surname to Forest goaile.

I think they were playing catch up on fistures having had to play a lot of FA Cup replays - sure they played Sheffiled Wednesday about 5 times and  after a harsh winter.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: preston28 on December 11, 2015, 10:52:31 PM
I remember us beating them 5-1 on a Wednesday night 1979 perhaps? They went 1-0 up (Frank Stapleton) then we got 5. John Deehan I think got a hat trick and and someone (memory fade) got a brace? O'Leary played that for them too.
Oh for that result on Sunday....

Gary Shelton. I think Forest were playing i n Europe and it was the main game on Radio 2 and updates were coming in on the Villa game which brought anhuge smile to my face. Remember because bloke had similar surname to Forest goaile.

I think they were playing catch up on fistures having had to play a lot of FA Cup replays - sure they played Sheffiled Wednesday about 5 times and  after a harsh winter.
Thanks. Gary Shelton! Yes the game was April if I remember.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 11, 2015, 10:53:47 PM
I remember us beating them 5-1 on a Wednesday night 1979 perhaps? They went 1-0 up (Frank Stapleton) then we got 5. John Deehan I think got a hat trick and and someone (memory fade) got a brace? O'Leary played that for them too.
Oh for that result on Sunday....

Gary Shelton. I think Forest were playing i n Europe and it was the main game on Radio 2 and updates were coming in on the Villa game which brought anhuge smile to my face. Remember because bloke had similar surname to Forest goaile.

I think they were playing catch up on fistures having had to play a lot of FA Cup replays - sure they played Sheffiled Wednesday about 5 times and  after a harsh winter.
Thanks. Gary Shelton! Yes the game was April if I remember.

Shelton got the hat-trick.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pooligan on December 11, 2015, 10:56:41 PM
Hope i am wrong,but i can not see anything other than a Arsenal win .It would be nice to actually score against them.  1-3
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: preston28 on December 11, 2015, 11:01:30 PM
I remember us beating them 5-1 on a Wednesday night 1979 perhaps? They went 1-0 up (Frank Stapleton) then we got 5. John Deehan I think got a hat trick and and someone (memory fade) got a brace? O'Leary played that for them too.
Oh for that result on Sunday....

Gary Shelton. I think Forest were playing i n Europe and it was the main game on Radio 2 and updates were coming in on the Villa game which brought anhuge smile to my face. Remember because bloke had similar surname to Forest goaile.

I think they were playing catch up on fistures having had to play a lot of FA Cup replays - sure they played Sheffiled Wednesday about 5 times and  after a harsh winter.
Thanks. Gary Shelton! Yes the game was April if I remember.

Shelton got the hat-trick.

Aaaaaaagghhhh memory fade! Thanks.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: wittonwarrior on December 12, 2015, 01:27:25 AM
Fearing the worst,hoping for the best!  Seat for this one is in L7 - will definitely not be sitting there would prefer even L1 seat, at least I wont have a certain number of wannabe  ultras standing up singing weird songs (not really football related throughout the game)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tony scott on December 12, 2015, 06:37:49 AM
I'm clutching at straws ,we've got to win a game some time 2:1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villafirst on December 12, 2015, 08:20:14 AM
1-2 defeat. Typically the 2 decent players in a wretched season so far, Amavi and Richards both out injured....
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on December 12, 2015, 09:01:53 AM
The conditions are likely to be taxing.,raining today and raining tomorrow. That might work in our favour if Grealish can get on the ball attack the penalty area
and get brought down.There is the very slightest chance that the manager will select Kozak just to see what he can do. That would be a sensible option.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villa Lew on December 12, 2015, 09:13:43 AM
Just reading about the players Arsenal have out injured Sanchez, Cazorla, Welbeck, Rosicky, Coquelin, Arteta and Wilshere. Yet they're massive favourites to win tomorrow, which shows their quality and our total lack of if it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Proposition Joe on December 12, 2015, 09:30:22 AM
Script for Sunday - Arsenal turn up at Villa Park a bit lethargic after their European exploits in the week,  but instead of putting pressure  on them  we let them coast along in second gear, knocking the ball around the back and midfield.  Something then clicks andArsenal get two quick goals  before half time effectively ending the game.  We rarely threaten in the second half and Arsenal go on to add another, possibly two in the last few minutes.  There then follows a massive circle jerk in the Sky studio  featuring some ex-Arsenal player over how great they are.

Please don't let this happen  lads!

That is also our typical Man U at home script.

What's the injury latest?  I heard Richards, Sanchez doubts, which doesn't bode well.  Esp Sanchez, we need someone to kick them up in the air a bit.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on December 12, 2015, 09:54:16 AM
According to Physioroom (http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php#c2) Gestede, Sanchez and Bacuna will be back for tomorrow. Richards out for another week. If Sanchez is out he can always put Westwood in to point at them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: IAmTheOneIanOlney on December 12, 2015, 11:24:31 AM
There is the very slightest chance that the manager will select Kozak just to see what he can do. That would be a sensible option.

Judging by his comments before the Southampton game and again this week, I'd say it's incredibly slight:

Garde hinted that Kozak’s brace and hard working performance for the under-21s was ‘not enough’ to challenge the club’s other attacking players.
 
“You know, probably, I’ve got lot of potential players in this position," added Garde.
“I’ve got eight or nine attacking players which is a very strong competition between all these players.
“The game you mentioned is an under 21 game. I’ve got a report from this game.
 “It’s always good for a player to score goals and perform well, but sometimes it is not enough. I’m pleased Libor is training well and he’s playing with the under-21s with a good spirit.”


Did I see somewhere that the infamous cup final flag is making a return for this game?

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Gregorys Boy on December 12, 2015, 01:25:23 PM
The tough part of playing this game at the moment is that even if we nick a draw which normally would be a good result, there will be a slightly negative spin put on it because right now a draw just isn't good enough.  I think they should win quite easily, but you never know.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: conman on December 12, 2015, 01:31:09 PM
There is the very slightest chance that the manager will select Kozak just to see what he can do. That would be a sensible option.

Judging by his comments before the Southampton game and again this week, I'd say it's incredibly slight:

Garde hinted that Kozak’s brace and hard working performance for the under-21s was ‘not enough’ to challenge the club’s other attacking players.
 
“You know, probably, I’ve got lot of potential players in this position," added Garde.
“I’ve got eight or nine attacking players which is a very strong competition between all these players.
“The game you mentioned is an under 21 game. I’ve got a report from this game.
 “It’s always good for a player to score goals and perform well, but sometimes it is not enough. I’m pleased Libor is training well and he’s playing with the under-21s with a good spirit.”


talking of bollocks

Did I see somewhere that the infamous cup final flag is making a return for this game?


Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on December 12, 2015, 03:52:54 PM
Hopefully under the tree on the opposite side of Trinity Road from where Greg sells outside the gates in front of the McGregor statue for me.

Under a tree or a bus shelter would be your only man unless you fancy a thorough soaking and a brisk NorEasterly up in the bollix.
Purple Cloud Pete will be selling dodgy brollies, psychedelic kagools and hallucinogens in Lovers' Walk aka Muggers' Alley before the game.
Junge Faced Jake will be selling a range of hatwear with sewn in razors for aspiring Peaky Blinders in the graveyard round the back of The Church of the Poison Minds which will be picketed by The Revolutionary Arrmy of The Infant Jeezuss protesting about Slaughter on the Sabbath.

Villa Park Weather (http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast/gcqdtph60#?fcTime=1449964800)

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on December 12, 2015, 04:24:29 PM
This is the game we turn it around. 2-1 to us in a very gutsy display and victory.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brian green on December 12, 2015, 04:45:44 PM
Santa usually cops it in this fixture.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on December 12, 2015, 04:53:04 PM
Script for Sunday - Arsenal turn up at Villa Park a bit lethargic after their European exploits in the week,  but instead of putting pressure  on them  we let them coast along in second gear, knocking the ball around the back and midfield.  Something then clicks andArsenal get two quick goals  before half time effectively ending the game.  We rarely threaten in the second half and Arsenal go on to add another, possibly two in the last few minutes.  There then follows a massive circle jerk in the Sky studio  featuring some ex-Arsenal player over how great they are.

Please don't let this happen  lads!

That is also our typical Man U at home script.

What's the injury latest?  I heard Richards, Sanchez doubts, which doesn't bode well.  Esp Sanchez, we need someone to kick them up in the air a bit.

We actually looked a bit better at the back last week without Richards.

Coincidence or not, I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on December 12, 2015, 07:36:29 PM
Anyone want to volunteer to dress as Santa and parachute in tomorrow?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: in exile on December 12, 2015, 07:41:07 PM
Anyone want to volunteer to dress as Santa and parachute in tomorrow?
Learner hopefully
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: old man villa fan on December 12, 2015, 07:44:02 PM
Anyone want to volunteer to dress as Santa and parachute in tomorrow?
Learner hopefully

Nobody experienced would risk it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on December 12, 2015, 07:45:45 PM
Santa usually cops it in this fixture.

No matter how bad this season is going, at least Villa haven't tried to kill Santa this this year
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CT on December 12, 2015, 08:23:49 PM
I wonder if there is some ingenious way of delaying the second half tomorrow that would benefit us?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villa Lew on December 12, 2015, 08:35:19 PM
Just been on an Arsenal fans website, alot of them are getting worried, saying surely no team can go 15 games in a row without a win!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on December 12, 2015, 08:38:57 PM
Just been on an Arsenal fans website, alot of them are getting worried, saying surely no team can go 15 games in a row without a win!

im sure we will give it a good go

in the paper today it said in our last 51 home games against man ure arse and liverpool we have won 1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 12, 2015, 08:44:04 PM
I'm going with the usual pile of shit.

0-4 Arsenal at a canter.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on December 12, 2015, 08:53:24 PM
Just been on an Arsenal fans website, alot of them are getting worried, saying surely no team can go 15 games in a row without a win!
They obviously haven't seen us play, and they don't realise we're the masters at breaking records of utter dross. They'll win easily.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on December 12, 2015, 08:56:50 PM
I want Ads on this thread!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on December 12, 2015, 08:58:20 PM
Ready for my weekly dose of misery. Bag of shit performance and a 3-0 defeat with some twat who's never scored or has some stupid non scoring record scoring.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on December 12, 2015, 09:00:31 PM
Anyone want to volunteer to dress as Santa and parachute in tomorrow?
Learner hopefully

Lerner. Not funny, anyway.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on December 12, 2015, 09:02:54 PM
I think it's vial we score first. The way we grew into the game last week second half,  where we played some decent stuff and more and matched Southampton was all down to being in front and having belief in their ability.

I'd keep the back four the same. Lescott played well and never shut up talking to Okore which is what he needs. We've got to lay a glove on them and really press them from the off.

We cannot afford the pedestrian start we saw at Everton. Let's not waste the confidence building point, let's learn momentum works both ways.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on December 12, 2015, 09:23:26 PM
Wenger has the easiest team talk tomorrow.
Right lads just keep playing football and soon enough they will gift us a couple of goals.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: conman on December 12, 2015, 10:36:59 PM
This is the game we turn it around. 2-1 to us in a very gutsy display and victory.
fingers crossed
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on December 12, 2015, 10:42:40 PM
Wenger has the easiest team talk tomorrow.
Right lads just keep playing football and soon enough they will gift us a couple of goals.

Yes, that's the spirit.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on December 12, 2015, 10:44:08 PM
Just been on an Arsenal fans website, alot of them are getting worried, saying surely no team can go 15 games in a row without a win!

im sure we will give it a good go

in the paper today it said in our last 51 home games against man ure arse and liverpool we have won 1
Of all the low points we have reached. Of all the unwanted records we have set recently. That is the worst stat I have heard. Truly fuckin appalling.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 12, 2015, 11:38:03 PM
Wenger has the easiest team talk tomorrow.
Right lads just keep playing football and soon enough they will gift us a couple of goals.

Yes, that's the spirit.

Looking at the season thus far, he's got a point, though, hasn't he? Unpleasant though it is to admit.

We're almost certainly not going to get anything tomorrow. We do, though, in the not too distant future have a run of matches which are eminently more winnable. Those are the ones we have got to win.

If we go down, it won't be because we got beaten easily by Arsenal, it'll be all the other shit teams we lamely spunked points away against.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villadelph on December 12, 2015, 11:46:15 PM
Wenger has the easiest team talk tomorrow.
Right lads just keep playing football and soon enough they will gift us a couple of goals.

Yes, that's the spirit.

Looking at the season thus far, he's got a point, though, hasn't he? Unpleasant though it is to admit.

We're almost certainly not going to get anything tomorrow. We do, though, in the not too distant future have a run of matches which are eminently more winnable. Those are the ones we have got to win.

If we go down, it won't be because we got beaten easily by Arsenal, it'll be all the other shit teams we lamely spunked points away against.

Truth.

I'd imagine there's better odds at 5-0 Arsenal than any victorious scenario.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on December 13, 2015, 12:10:27 AM
Script for Sunday - Arsenal turn up at Villa Park a bit lethargic after their European exploits in the week,  but instead of putting pressure  on them  we let them coast along in second gear, knocking the ball around the back and midfield.  Something then clicks andArsenal get two quick goals  before half time effectively ending the game.  We rarely threaten in the second half and Arsenal go on to add another, possibly two in the last few minutes.  There then follows a massive circle jerk in the Sky studio  featuring some ex-Arsenal player over how great they are.

Please don't let this happen  lads!

That is also our typical Man U at home script.

What's the injury latest?  I heard Richards, Sanchez doubts, which doesn't bode well.  Esp Sanchez, we need someone to kick them up in the air a bit.

We actually looked a bit better at the back last week without Richards.

Coincidence or not, I'm not sure.
Playing 2 centre backs instead of 1 centre back and a right back that thinks he's a centre back might have something to do with it.

Although to be fair to Garde, and Sherwood for that matter, it's only now there's been an option of not having Richards at centre back that didn't result in a pairing of Clark and Lescott.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pbavfckuwait on December 13, 2015, 06:04:19 AM
Free hit on this one, so go for it from the off, get the crowd on side and do what Stoke do every time against them at home, show them no respect. Come on Villa
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on December 13, 2015, 08:54:30 AM
Wenger has the easiest team talk tomorrow.
Right lads just keep playing football and soon enough they will gift us a couple of goals.

Yes, that's the spirit.

Looking at the season thus far, he's got a point, though, hasn't he? Unpleasant though it is to admit.

We're almost certainly not going to get anything tomorrow.

People were saying that before the Man City game and not too many people were giving us much of a chance last week either. You just never know, we may well catch them on a bad day and last weeks point might have given the players a lift, especially the defence. I think the most important thing is to remain optimistic.

As for the games coming up, yes I agree entirely.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: MalcolmP on December 13, 2015, 08:55:06 AM
They wiped the floor with us at Wembley and we had a better team then. 0-6 is my prediction. Couple of early goals, confidence goes, crowd gets on their backs and Walcott runs riot against our pedestrian defence.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SteveN on December 13, 2015, 09:43:31 AM
I just can't bring myself to watch or listen to this, Gardeners' Question Time for me.  Then look up the result at 4PM to see we have won 1-0.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Malandro on December 13, 2015, 09:54:15 AM
Bet our players are looking forward to this one.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on December 13, 2015, 09:54:50 AM
We really need to win today. It's stating the obvious, but we really do.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 13, 2015, 10:02:39 AM
I just can't bring myself to watch or listen to this, Gardeners' Question Time for me.  Then look up the result at 4PM to see we have won 1-0.

I'll be taking a similar approach - the "it isn't happening" one - it has worked in the past (although a long time ago) so you never know.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pbavfckuwait on December 13, 2015, 10:12:43 AM
I will be strapped to the sofa here in Oman and knowing if the result I believe will happen another row with the Mrs beckons.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on December 13, 2015, 10:20:09 AM
Free hit on this one, so go for it from the off, get the crowd on side and do what Stoke do every time against them at home, show them no respect. Come on Villa
Spot on mate. Get at them from the off. Don't let them pass it around and start posing on the ball. Make it as unpleasant as we can. Maybe just maybe we can cause an upset. I'm still reeling from the stat I read on here yesterday. Only 1 win in 51 attempts at VP against Man U, L pool and Arsenal. A win today would be massive. Come on Villa do it for us. Do it the famous club you are privileged to be playing for.
We will raise the roof like you wouldn't believe if you give us something believe in.

 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: mr underhill on December 13, 2015, 10:21:08 AM
sadly statistics tells us we a very unlikely to beat Arsenal. In fact, they tell us we are very unlikely to beat anyone. There's an interesting cribbage match on today in the local pub so I'm heading there.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on December 13, 2015, 10:40:11 AM
I won't be able to watch the game, so naturally I'm expecting it to be a nine-goal thriller, with us edging it 5-4.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on December 13, 2015, 10:55:48 AM
Some people have all the luck.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Quiet Lion on December 13, 2015, 11:10:59 AM
Youngster might get a game:

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/premier-league/premier-league-aussie-young-gun-jordan-lyden-set-for-aston-villa-debut-against-arsenal/story-e6frf4a3-1227643481571
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brian Taylor on December 13, 2015, 11:57:50 AM
Half time Villa evens and then the crystal ball fogged up. I'll let you know of it clears past last 10mins.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on December 13, 2015, 12:11:04 PM
Youngster might get a game:

http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/premier-league/premier-league-aussie-young-gun-jordan-lyden-set-for-aston-villa-debut-against-arsenal/story-e6frf4a3-1227643481571

We've got to strike lucky with a Jordan at some stage...come on son.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on December 13, 2015, 12:32:22 PM
Arsenal at full strength (well for what they have)...Ozil starts

We're unchanged.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on December 13, 2015, 12:37:38 PM
Well can't hang around in warmth all day better be on my way. Not sure what's worse the weather or the 90 mins that will follow once we are inside the ground?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Iamkmkm on December 13, 2015, 12:37:46 PM
2-1 to the villa
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on December 13, 2015, 12:38:34 PM
Ozil, Walcott and Giroud will have a field day.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on December 13, 2015, 12:39:02 PM
Gestede, for fuck's sake.  Anybody continuing to play that lumbering oaf having watched him play is an idiot.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on December 13, 2015, 12:41:48 PM
Don't like this team selection at all. Does Garde not realised we should've been 0-3 down inside 20 minutes last week?

Think we'll get battered, we look slow and lumbering all over the pitch.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on December 13, 2015, 12:43:49 PM
It seems like Garde will be learning the hard way.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CT on December 13, 2015, 12:45:55 PM
Just despair at Gestede starting.

I'd give up a limb for a draw right now.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on December 13, 2015, 12:46:28 PM
Kozak not even on the bench again. Unreal.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on December 13, 2015, 12:46:50 PM
Who's starting the Match Thread, you bad luck people give it a swerve. (yes that includes me)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on December 13, 2015, 12:48:08 PM
Kozak not even on the bench again. Unreal.
I was told he played for the U-21 team yesterday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: johnc on December 13, 2015, 01:07:35 PM
Well can't hang around in warmth all day better be on my way. Not sure what's worse the weather or the 90 mins that will follow once we are inside the ground?
Going outside to sweep up leaves and put up some lights the only positive result today I fear. Will listen the the game on the radio.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Iamkmkm on December 13, 2015, 01:30:50 PM
cmon you villa!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Arsenal Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on December 13, 2015, 01:39:19 PM
Who mentioned gifting goals earlier.........
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