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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on November 25, 2015, 12:43:54 AM
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Villa Park Saturday 28th November, 3pm KO.
No more fucking about, Villa win.
Us 3 Them 1
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Another loss is the only logical prediction I can make.
Sorry :/
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Us 2 Them 0
Ayew 27, 73
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2-0 home win
Sinclair 16
Gil 33
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I'm going to be away so this is a nailed on home win. 3-0 Villa.
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I would just love a win so 1-0 Gestede
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must win
same as sunderland, bitters, stoke and swansea
3 1
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A win because we must. It may be a nervy last ten minutes as we hold onto a single goal lead.
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This is the first time I have predicted a loss this season
1-2
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It's the day when the team has to decide whether they want to get relegated. One way or another, we will know.
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It's the day when the team has to decide whether they want to get relegated. One way or another, we will know.
Dramatic but true JT!
Win 2-0
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This really is must win.
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Sadly missing this one so a win please
Villa to win 1-0 (anybody to score)
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The Doc
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1-0 to us scored in the last few seconds after the ball ricochets in off three or four players arses. I think it's called clutching at straws.
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We're going to win this one, it'll click and things will get better.
2-0.
Ayew, Sinclair.
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I think we will see a few minor changes to the personnel on the pitch, they will work hard and grind out a 1-0 victory.
(Which is exactly what I thought we would do at Goodison. Law of averages says it's got to happen at some point!)
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Must win game so we'll probably draw
I'll go 1-1 with Gil scoring for us early before we gift them a comedy equaliser in the last 10 minutes (sighs)
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Same as other posters, for the first time my prediction is a win for Watford (really hope I'm wrong) because, at the moment, I just can't see who's going to score for us. If we lose this one then the Championship really does beckon as, with Sunderland's win on monday night, a gap is already emerging. Even if we win, we will still be bottom.
Sorry to be so negative but, I keep thinking a new manager will change things and Remi restored my faith with the team he put out against £iteh but, then quickly returned to type by putting out that awful selection at Everton with good old favourites, Richardson, Westwood et al coming straight back into the team. He needs to start picking the right team and then sticking with it. Nothing like a confident, settled team to start picking up points. Come on Remi, let's get this show back on the road.
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Come on you Villa boys! Fuck! Yes! NO! GET IN!
I don't fucking know any more.
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Praying for a win.
My stoke mates say that Watford are the best side to play at the Brit this season - and their front two work their socks off.
Whatever, it can't be as bad as Saturday.
2-1
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I'm going win, simply because I'm desperate. 1-0 off someone's arse, the refs head, anything will do just win Villa win.
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Anything less than a win in this fixture and we will be in deep, deep trouble (at the moment it's only deep trouble).
For some reason I think we'll scrape by 2-1. Anything less really doesn't bare thinking about.
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Their front two are lively, quick, full of movement, I'm fearing the worse.
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We simply must win at some point...if we lose again then I wouldn't at all be surprised and my faith simply slips even further than it has already.
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Anything less than a win in this fixture and we will be in deep, deep trouble (at the moment it's only deep trouble).
For some reason I think we'll scrape by 2-1. Anything less really doesn't bare thinking about.
If we lose ( and I polled for a win ) we might as well turn the lights out, as otherwise I can't see us getting 30pts.
We have been unlucky with some results, but you make your own "luck" ( by playing your way out)
And most of our games have been against teams that you'd expect to be in the top half.
This is the corner we turn after it all went south after the Leicester game. It just has to be.
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Watford seem to play 4-4-2 so I'd like to see Sanchez come back into the midfield. Given Garde's comments about how light weight in the tackle we were at Everton, something I agree with, him sitting in front of the back four should really up the muscle and allow Veretout and Gana to press onto the Watford midfield pair without sacrificing space behind.
We need a pace outlet and I expect to see Sinclair come back in to aid Richardson, who I think may get another go through lack of options. If you've strangled their midfield, then they wont be able to shift it wide so easily, which may ease pressure. They lack the quality that Everton did, so if they go for the percentage ball, then they won't find their right winger as quickly or have the option of their full back streaming on.
We started so deep and slowly at Everton, likely hoping to repeat what we did against Man City, that it really set the tone for the rest of the game. Its important we find our midfield at least 10 yards higher up the pitch to allow Sinclair and Gil to support Ayew, with Veretout and Gana hitting the box.
Traore sounds like he may make the bench and it may be interesting to see what he can bring.
Its must win and we will win. I'd love it to be a nice and comfortable two goal cushion, with the game fizzling out on the hour to nothing, but knowing us and the form and mindset we're in, it will be a first half goal and a big bag of nerves for 45 minutes in the second half. Whatever, as long as we take the three points.
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Same as other posters, for the first time my prediction is a win for Watford (really hope I'm wrong) because, at the moment, I just can't see who's going to score for us. If we lose this one then the Championship really does beckon as, with Sunderland's win on monday night, a gap is already emerging. Even if we win, we will still be bottom.
Sorry to be so negative but, I keep thinking a new manager will change things and Remi restored my faith with the team he put out against £iteh but, then quickly returned to type by putting out that awful selection at Everton with good old favourites, Richardson, Westwood et al coming straight back into the team. He needs to start picking the right team and then sticking with it. Nothing like a confident, settled team to start picking up points. Come on Remi, let's get this show back on the road.
good post
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Like all of us I desperately hope we'll win. However I can see no logical reason why anyone could predict we'll win. We're on a desperately poor run, have poor players and aren't even really creating chances.
Best I can muster is 0-0.
Prove me wrong lads!
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I was heartened by the display against Citeh, as far as defence and midfield were concerned, but I just didn't - and still don't - see any goal threat whatsoever. 0-0
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I'm nervous about this one. I work in Watford and I went to a few games over the past few years rooting for them to come up.
Deeney is a handful and if Flores was wise he would match him up against Clark who always seems to struggle against physicality. Anya will cause us problems at left back and Ighalo has been in fine goalscoring form for a long time now.
Gestede had joy against Watford in both of his games against them last year but I cannot see us providing the service he required.
We need a disciplines performance of the Man City ilk in the hope of grinding out a 1-0 win. It would be a start.
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I know he won't but, I would go with:
Guzan
Hutton Richards Clark Crespo
Sanchez
Traore Gil Veretout Gana
Ayew
Subs in no particular order: Bacuna, Grealish, Gestede, Kozak, Sinclair
Of course it will be nothing like that as Remi has probably been told he has to find places for Gabby, Westwood, Richardson and, basically, anyone else that can conspire to losing us another match!!
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We wil get it right this weekend.
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I know he won't but, I would go with:
Guzan
Hutton Richards Clark Crespo
Sanchez
Traore Gil Veretout Gana
Ayew
Subs in no particular order: Bacuna, Grealish, Gestede, Kozak, Sinclair
Of course it will be nothing like that as Remi has probably been told he has to find places for Gabby, Westwood, Richardson and, basically, anyone else that can conspire to losing us another match!!
Why would you think that?
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The nightmare is over. Villa 5 Elton's boys 0
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14-0 as we need to sort out the goal difference.
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We wil get it right this weekend.
It's pretty much at the stage where we have to. It's ridiculous to say that at this stage of the season, but our start has been so bad that we're in that position.
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I'd have Adama on the bench at the very least, we need pacey options.
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Richardson only played because Amavi is injured and Westwood only played because Sanchez wasn't long back in the country after a long flight back from International duty. I don't think these two are in Garde's preferred XI, although Richardson may keep his place until January unless he tries a utility defender or CB out there.
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Richardson is so poor, I'd definately give Crespo a go at LB, can't be any worse. Against Everton, they knew he was the weakest link so played on him and, it paid off for them.
A 14-0 win to boost our goal difference but, do you mean just against Watford or for the remaining part of the season!!
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0-2. They are a decent side and much better than us right now, see no cause at all for optimism. Hope I'm wrong.
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4-0 and then go on an unbeaten run of 10 games.
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Can't really imagine us scoring so a 0-0 draw is about the best we can expect.
Mind you, I said the same about Everton.
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1-0 down early on, booed off at half time, Adama on, kitchen sink, 2-1 victory.
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I know he won't but, I would go with:
Guzan
Hutton Richards Clark Crespo
Sanchez
Traore Gil Veretout Gana
Ayew
Subs in no particular order: Bacuna, Grealish, Gestede, Kozak, Sinclair
Of course it will be nothing like that as Remi has probably been told he has to find places for Gabby, Westwood, Richardson and, basically, anyone else that can conspire to losing us another match!!
Why would you think that?
Indeed. What a truly baffling post.
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1-0 down early on, booed off at half time, Adama on, kitchen sink, 2-1 victory.
blimey, I'd take that :)
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The Doc
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My previous post regarding Remi being told who to pick was very much tongue in cheek, just for clarification.
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My previous post regarding Remi being told who to pick was very much tongue in cheek, just for clarification.
Fair enough, apologies for the curt response. Tongue in cheek is difficult to spot in amongst all the feet in mouths that the current situation lends itself to.
For some reason, I really don't know why, but this game puts me in mind of the 1-0 injury time victory over Fulham under TSM1. I felt at the time that it was going to be a turning point but it just ended up being a tiny high spot in the season. I think we'll see a similar painfully ground out win that will prove to be the turning point or high spot.
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I was heartened by the display against Citeh, as far as defence and midfield were concerned, but I just didn't - and still don't - see any goal threat whatsoever. 0-0
Nor me, I can't see us scoring, shots on target are as rare as hens teeth
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A win. Just because we have to. A good nerve settling session in The Bartons required beforehand.
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Villa win all day long
And let's behind them from the first whistle to the end
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Obviously the win above all else is important but the manner of the performance is doubly so. A scrappy lucky win may buy a week's respite but nothing more. To believe we can get out of this we need a good solid performance and 3 points. That we find 3 points at home against Watford a rough ask tells us everything at the moment, though.
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A lucky win may be all we need though to kickstart confidence. Ideally we'll batter them with ease, but for me the win is the only thing that matters Saturday.
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Any old win will do. It bouncing in for an own goal off Deeney's cock on 93 minutes would be just fine. We need a win to arrest this slide. A stroke of luck wouldn't go amiss either.
By way of example, Olbiyun beat Arsenal at the weekend. They had 27% of the possession and one shot on target. Yet they won, scoring twice and with the opposition missing a late penalty.
When was the last time a game ran for us like that?
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This could be the long awaited turning point. Being a sometimes illogically optimistic villa fan I'm gonna say this is the game we will look back and laugh at when we're sitting pretty in the league.
Villa 3 Watford 1.
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Got to win,no other outcome will be accepted. UTV
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I don't think either Gestede nor Ayew can play a lone role up front, so we need someone to link the play between Gil and the forward man. Can Gestede and Ayew do a job together against Watford? We also need our best, fit, back four. In the middle, Sanchez, Veretout and Gana.
We'll either win this by the odd goal, or lose.
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If we score early I think we might give them a bollocking. Adama has to be involved at the weekend.
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Whenever i've seen Vardy's goals for Leicester, a few of them have involved him running through the middle and outpacing the other team's defence. I wonder if that's something Traore could do, rather than sticking him out wide and relying on him to get crosses over?
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gestede is what he is - a championship player
we need to play ayew or sinclair thro the middle with gil behind
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I'm going to get shot here but how about Traore one side, Ayew the other and errrr Gabby through the middle. Veretout, Gueye and Sanchez midfield 3 and back 4 of Okore, Clark, Richards and Hutton?
Yeah it's Gabby again but i'm completely out of ideas for the centre forward position. Ayew is wasted their, Gestede is a carthorse. Saturday might be one of Gabbys 2 games a season where he turns up.
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Whenever i've seen Vardy's goals for Leicester, a few of them have involved him running through the middle and outpacing the other team's defence. I wonder if that's something Traore could do, rather than sticking him out wide and relying on him to get crosses over?
Tempting. Makes us a bit unpredictable. Looking for crosses means playing Rudy up top, and would be our only plan of attack, and opposing sides can focus on stopping that. With Traore through the middle and Gil in and around, it'd give Watford a bit more to think about, make them play a bit deeper, then maybe we'll find out if Ayew's any good at exploiting room. It would leave us naturally narrow, but hopefully between those three they'd be able to stretch them across the pitch. Amavi is a big miss, so if McCafu has been working on his final ball, that'd be a big help on the threat front.
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I'm going to get shot here but how about Traore one side, Ayew the other and errrr Gabby through the middle. Veretout, Gueye and Sanchez midfield 3 and back 4 of Okore, Clark, Richards and Hutton?
Yeah it's Gabby again but i'm completely out of ideas for the centre forward position. Ayew is wasted their, Gestede is a carthorse. Saturday might be one of Gabbys 2 games a season where he turns up.
Shot? For having an opinion?
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*shoots Legion*
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This could be the long awaited turning point. Being a sometimes illogically optimistic villa fan I'm gonna say this is the game we will look back and laugh at when we're sitting pretty in the league.
Villa 3 Watford 1.
Even if our situation improves, I can't see us 'sitting pretty in the league' but I seriously hope I'm wrong.
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We are desperate for a win and they will be desperate not to lose.
We have no goalscorer or left back and a dodgy Goalkeeper.
We will do well to get a draw 1-1.
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A hard fought 0-0 draw.
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My heart is already saying 6-0 Gray hatrick, followed by a rare Carrodus goal, a little run through and Mortimer power drive.
Bump back to earth - will take any sort of result right now. A fluky own goal, a goal keeper error or some other miracle. This is building up to be a big game, expectations not too high.
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Bet365 yesterday had us marginal favourites over both Watford (and the draw I think as well), which I found rather odd. Let's hope they/the punters are onto something that frankly I am not seeing.
Watford away play a flat back 10 don't they so we might need to give Adama a go for that bit of unpredictability.
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I see another loss - Watford have been impressive away from home, there is huge pressure on us, and Remi can't work miracles so fast.
It'll get worse before it gets better.
0-2
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It'll get worse before it gets better.
Worse? We lose almost every match, it can't get any worse, it can only get better or the norm continue.
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I'm sorry if this is naive - but is there any chance that Adama could play in the middle, rather than as a wide player? Could he be converted into a striker, like Henry or Dwight Yorke?
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0-0 written all over it for me
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2-1 win. Own goal and a penalty.
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Point of order - how can it get worse than the 4-0 at Goodison?
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have to win this one or I think we will be sunk to be honest
Physically strong team needed, match them physically and tactically then hope one of our players bundles them in
Lescott over Richardson for some extra height, Richards has to be taken out of centre back even if its Crespo coming in
Its a horrible side but Grealish and Traore havent offered anything in months
Think Gestede may have some more luck against lesser defenders, he scored against these last season. If not working in first half, then pop Ayew up front and put Sinclair or another of our lightweight options on the left instead
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Richards/Hutton, Okore, Clark, Lescott
--------Sanchez, Gueye------
Gabby, Gil/Veretout, Ayew
------------Gestede-------
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We'll lose. Next...
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I've gone for a draw but expect us to lose.Worst of all in a burst of optimism after the Man City game I bought a couple of tickets for this match.
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Troy Deeney the bluenose will score.
Villa win 2-1
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We really need to win but I just can't see it 1-1 draw.
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Has Alan Hutton ever played LB? Because the thought of Richardson there fills me with dread... So, if he can play there I would shift Richards to RB (because he's never been a CB) and start with Okore and Clark in the middle assuming the former is fit and alive.
The rest of the team can be made up with the usual suspects - I'd drop Grealish until he grows up and decides he wants to be footballer. And having him and Gil in the team makes us too lightweight.
I'll go for a 2.1 win. I think we're probably down already but if we can't start picking up some points at home it's embarrassing.
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Hutton played left back last season v Swansea I think. It didn't work. He kept cutting inside onto his right foot and losing the ball.
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So there was no difference from Hutton playing right back then ;)
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Is it worth throwing the young lad who's a left back in ? I'm more concerned with our options up front, think Ayew should go back to playing off the front with Gil, god knows who to play up top though.
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Win for villa. It's got to happen at some point.
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have to win this one or I think we will be sunk to be honest
Physically strong team needed, match them physically and tactically then hope one of our players bundles them in
Lescott over Richardson for some extra height, Richards has to be taken out of centre back even if its Crespo coming in
Its a horrible side but Grealish and Traore havent offered anything in months
Think Gestede may have some more luck against lesser defenders, he scored against these last season. If not working in first half, then pop Ayew up front and put Sinclair or another of our lightweight options on the left instead
-----------------Bunn
Richards/Hutton, Okore, Clark, Lescott
--------Sanchez, Gueye------
Gabby, Gil/Veretout, Ayew
------------Gestede-------
Grealish, agreed. Bit difficult for Traore to offer anything though when he's had the grand total of 70 minutes football for us in 3 months.
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I can't see past 1-1... although I have no idea who will score our goals...
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-----------------Bunn
Richards/Hutton, Okore, Clark, Lescott
--------Sanchez, Gueye------
Gabby, Gil/Veretout, Ayew
------------Gestede-------
No point in having Gestede in that line-up.There's not a single player there who can cross the ball for him.
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-----------------Bunn
Richards/Hutton, Okore, Clark, Lescott
--------Sanchez, Gueye------
Gabby, Gil/Veretout, Ayew
------------Gestede-------
No point in having Gestede in that line-up.There's not a single player there who can cross the ball for him.
and because he is shit
No way will Okore start and gabby out wide?
Liverpool showed against man city that you don't have to have a big lump up front in you have players with the right movement
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We are drinking at last chance saloon, only a win will do !
0-1 Watford, Bluenose Deeney 86thmin
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At a time when everyone appears to be writing us off this is the day when not just the players need to turn up and be counted we fans do too.
Drag everyone down to B6 and get behind the team . Look at the atmosphere generated at the Leicester ground last year and carried into this-
we need a Tranmere semi support / Sunderland Monday night support from now until the end of the season and we might just surprise a few people
including ourselves.
3-1 Or 6- 1 to us depending on the atmosphere.
Keep the faith, UTV !
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My Mrs got given a free Villa shirt for me by Macron as she's doing some work for them hopefully that is a sign. 1-0.
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At a time when everyone appears to be writing us off this is the day when not just the players need to turn up and be counted we fans do too.
Drag everyone down to B6 and get behind the team . Look at the atmosphere generated at the Leicester ground last year and carried into this-
we need a Tranmere semi support / Sunderland Monday night support from now until the end of the season and we might just surprise a few people
including ourselves.
3-1 Or 6- 1 to us depending on the atmosphere.
Keep the faith, UTV !
What are you drinking?
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Manager Rémi Garde faced the press ahead of the home game against Watford.
Find his pre-match thoughts below.
On the job being more difficult now than when he arrived…
I was not a dreamer.
Now I am within the club - and it is my responsibility to find some solutions quickly because we need them.
On expectations this weekend…
I know that everyone expects us to win the game - and I'm the first one and the players also.
But I am not expecting to have an easy game because if you look at the Watford results until now, they have done very well.
It shows you how good they are.
I think they are still in a positive mood since they have been promoted to the Premier League.
On picking up three points…
We want to, of course, win this game.
We are going to try and do it in the way we want.
But we will also accept a victory in the last minute, no problem with that.
The first minutes will be important for everyone but the result at the end will be more important.
On the application of his players this weekend…
We are very well prepared for this huge game.
Everyone has been training all-together throughout the week.
I appreciate having all my squad for the training sessions.
We have been working hard. I am still very pleased with the way we train, the way they are committed in the training sessions.
I know it's quite new in terms of the way we train and the exercises we are doing in the sessions because every manager has his own way of training.
They have settled in very well in terms of what I have been asking of them.
On the transfer window…
I will see what is possible to do.
There are games to play before the opening of the window.
My responsibility is to do as well as I can do with the players we have currently.
If I am speaking too much about what could happen in the next moment, this is not good for them or for me.
Let's be focused on what we can do now with the players we have.
On Jack Grealish…
Jack is training with the U21 team for the moment.
He won't be included in the squad against Watford.
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This weekend we click; 5-1
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This could be the long awaited turning point. Being a sometimes illogically optimistic villa fan I'm gonna say this is the game we will look back and laugh at when we're sitting pretty in the league.
Villa 3 Watford 1.
Even if our situation improves, I can't see us 'sitting pretty in the league' but I seriously hope I'm wrong.
Not necessarily this season but I believe we will get there
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Going to be tough, they have a striker in Ighalo in top form. Joint 2nd top Prem scorer with 7 goals, nearly as many as we've scored all season!
1 - 1
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This weekend we click; 5-1
I've no idea where you think five goals are going to come from? I can barely see us getting one in any game
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We might see Senderos back for this one Clark moving to left back.
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We might see Senderos back for this one Clark moving to left back.
I guarantee we won't.
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We might see Senderos back for this one Clark moving to left back.
Absolutely no chance, unfortunately.
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If we do play Senderos on Saturday it would show that we've already given up and just want to be relegated as soon as possible.
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He can't play he's not in the 25 ?
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He can't play he's not in the 25 ?
(http://fcdn.mtbr.com/attachments/shocks-suspension/753773d1358408534-ebay-rockshox-revelation-426-leaking-oil-correctamundo.jpg)
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This weekend we click; 5-1
I've no idea where you think five goals are going to come from? I can barely see us getting one in any game
Nor have i to be honest...eternal optimist :-)
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Can Senderos play because we've loaned out Baker and Bennett or were they not in the twenty-five either?
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1-0
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Can Senderos play because we've loaned out Baker and Bennett or were they not in the twenty-five either?
We couldn't play him regardless as he wasn't named. We can put him in the squad when the transfer window opens, so he could replace Amavi for example.
This is our squad. AFAIK we can add any of the U21 players we already have, at any time to the match day squad.
1] Brad Guzan
2] Tiago Ilori
4] Micah Richards
5] Jores Okore
6] Ciaran Clark
7] Leandro Bacuna
8] Idrissa Gueye
9] Scott Sinclair
11] Gabby Agbonlahor
12] Joe Cole
13] Jed Steer
15] Ashley Westwood
16] Joleon Lescott
17] Jordan Veretout
18] Kieran Richardson
19] Jordan Ayew
21] Alan Hutton
22] Gary Gardner
24] Carlos Sanchez
25] Carles Gil
27] Libor Kozak
28] Charles N'Zogbia
31] Mark Bunn
33] Jose Angel Crespo
39] Rudy Gestede
U21s.
20] Adama Traore
23] Jordan Amavi
40] Jack Grealish
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Why can't Senderos play? I missed the reason. Can someone please fill me in.
Along with...
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A luxurious 3-1 win for us and our season kickstarted. Operation "Try not to be cut adrift from the other bottom dwellers " begins with this game.
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I shall be out during the game tomorrow, I hope for a pleasant surprise.
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I shall be hiding up a mountain as usual. Hopefully, there will be no phone signal up there and my "Futbol 24 app" will not be able to ping me with the "Oh fuck! Here we go" Watford goals.
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I am one of the 65% of us who actually thinks we will win. We all need our heads looking at.
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I am one of the 65% of us who actually thinks we will win. We all need our heads looking at.
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I am one of the 65% of us who actually thinks we will win. We all need our heads looking at.
Group delusion. We are turning in to a cult.
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I am one of the 65% of us who actually thinks we will win. We all need our heads looking at.
Surely, given the elapsed time since our last victory, purely on the basis of frequency of unexpected results, we have got to manage to win a match some time soon?
Can we really be that shit not to?
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Nice to hear Ray Wilkins on TalkBollocks this morning saying that he thought we looked really good in our home performances, when he and TS were in charge, and just bad luck prevented us actually winning the matches!! - What matches was he watching and, if he thought that was all good, no wonder we were actually shite.
Also Brazil said that Villa would have been much better off with TS and RW in charge rather than Remi - of course Ray said yes, much better and, look, when we were in charge we didn't get beaten by 0-4 - Unbelivable!!
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Nice to hear Ray Wilkins on TalkBollocks this morning saying that he thought we looked really good in our home performances, when he and TS were in charge, and just bad luck prevented us actually winning the matches!! - What matches was he watching and, if he thought that was all good, no wonder we were actually shite.
Also Brazil said that Villa would have been much better off with TS and RW in charge rather than Remi - of course Ray said yes, much better and, look, when we were in charge we didn't get beaten by 0-4 - Unbelivable!!
I saw 2 of them, we should have beaten Sunderland but died of death after 70 minutes and we were lucky to get '0' (Nil) v Stoke.
We didn't get beaten 4-0. Really what about the Cup Final. And what about the 6-1 v Southampton.
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With the negative press this week, I'm starting to think this has 0-1 written all over it, with "You're not fit to wear the shirt" making an appearance.
I hope I'm 100% wrong and we win 3-0 obviously.
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I just cant see a point let alone a win.
Watford are a good well drilled side, high on confidence. We neither of those things, and playing at the factory of sadness where we haven't won in 200+ days will hinder rather than help.
0-2 Watford
The aftermath will focus on not if we can stay up but if we can better the Derby team of 2008 and their 11 points and -63 goal difference.
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Biggest game for years for me, praying for a win but no doubt Deeney will score at the Holte, flash his nose tattoo and join the legends that are Tait and Carr down at Small Heath.
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Can Senderos play because we've loaned out Baker and Bennett or were they not in the twenty-five either?
Fuck me I've heard of straw clutching.
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Garde needs a psychological boost every bit as much as the 3 points. We will get it, it might not be pretty.
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this is the team Guzan
Hutton Richards Clark Richardson
Vertout Sanchez Gana
Gill
Sinclair Gestede
Not my choice but I think this will be the team for our biggest game in ages, frightening
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this is the team Guzan
Hutton Richards Clark Richardson
Vertout Sanchez Gana
Gill
Gabby Gestede
Not my choice but I think this will be the team for our biggest game in ages, frightening
Gabby is certainly out
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Villa: 4-2-1-3
Guzan
Hutton Richards Clark R'son
Sanchez Gana
Gil
Traore Gestede Ayew
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Never beaten us at VP in top flight..... That will be the new record set tomorrow.
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I'd like to think last week was our line in the sand moment and this week is the start of the ascent. I'm going 2-1 to us.
If we lose, well, we are fooked !
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I think I'd rather have a cardboard cut out at left back than Richardson. A left footer though, so that counts out Hutton, Clark has been pretty ropey there in the past though hasn't he ?
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Never beaten us at VP in top flight..... That will be the new record set tomorrow.
That's the spirit.
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Jores Okore is available this weekend for the clash with Watford.
Okore has been building his fitness back up following knee surgery in the summer.
The defender played through the pain at the back end of the previous term.
And following appearances for the U21s and regular training sessions, he is now on the verge of a first team return.
That will boost competition in a central defensive unit also including Micah Richards, Ciaran Clark and Joleon Lescott.
Gabby Agbonlahor is still struggling to be fit as he works his way back from a calf problem.
Agbonlahor came off against Tottenham at half-time as boss Rémi Garde watched on hours after his appointment.
The long-serving striker hasn't seen action since after failing to recover from the troublesome problem.
But Garde admits he's making good progress.
Tiago Ilori and Gary Gardner miss out this weekend through injury.
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Imagine what it would feel like to beat the shit out of these?
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I'd go with:
Bunn
Hutton Okore Clark lescott
Sanchez Gana
Gil
Ayew Sinclair
Gestede
I'd be tempted to throw Kozak on for Gestede at half time if he isn't playing well. Sinclair and Ayew are both better cutting in from wide, and can give width.
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What bugs me more than anything is that whichever way you cut it, we're gonna be putting out a piss poor starting lineup. There's literally no way around it. Appallingly weak at left back. Week through the middle of defence (And in goal) and toothless up front.
What I would consider though, is starting with Kozak and getting Guzan out the side. I think it's too soon for Okore I think, and regardless, he's not great. I know Richards is something of a liability but he's one of the very few players with have who has even a modicum of character. I don't rate him as a skipper, but that said, I rate as the best option we have at the club, with the possible exception of Clark.
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I'd go with:
Bunn
Hutton Okore Clark lescott
Sanchez Gana
Gil
Ayew Sinclair
Gestede
I'd be tempted to throw Kozak on for Gestede at half time if he isn't playing well. Sinclair and Ayew are both better cutting in from wide, and can give width.
Do you know what 'Fait accompli' means?
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Do you know what 'Fait accompli' means?
He isn't the best player on the books, but he can get goals if crosses come in. I do hope Kozak gets a go at some point, and that we sign someone better in January though.
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Do you know what 'Fait accompli' means?
He isn't the best player on the books, but he can get goals if crosses come in. I do hope Kozak gets a go at some point, and that we sign someone better in January though.
So do I. I have a vested interest in Gestede playing well but he is a million miles away from being acceptable quality for Villa.
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Do you know what 'Fait accompli' means?
He isn't the best player on the books, but he can get goals if crosses come in. I do hope Kozak gets a go at some point, and that we sign someone better in January though.
So do I. I have a vested interest in Gestede playing well but he is a million miles away from being acceptable quality for Villa.
this
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Whoever Fait accomppli is I am confident someone on here will have seen him on YouTube and be tipping him as a January window signing before long.
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Can he play left back?
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It's Lait accompli and it means we have finished milking the cow.
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Villa: 4-2-1-3
Guzan
Hutton Richards Clark R'son
Sanchez Gana
Gil
Traore Gestede Ayew
Swap Gil or Vertout and Traore for Gil and I think you've got it.
Gestede can course some confusion with Gil and Ayew taking advantage of the space. What we can't do is leave him isolated up front.
Traore can come on for the last 20 minutes.
4-1 Villa.
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My heart tells me we will win,my head tells me we wont 1-1
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I'd go with:
Bunn
Hutton Okore Clark lescott
Sanchez Gana
Gil
Ayew Sinclair
Gestede
I'd be tempted to throw Kozak on for Gestede at half time if he isn't playing well. Sinclair and Ayew are both better cutting in from wide, and can give width.
I still would have Richards instead of Okore, but agree with the rest of that team. Bench of:
Guzan, Okore, Richardson, Westwood, Veretout, Traore, Kozak / Agbonlahor
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Hard to see past an away win. We're a complete rabble and they're not.
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I predict we'll lose if both Richardson and Westwood play, draw if just one of them play and win if both don't play.
0-1
1-1
2-1
UTV!
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This is just an absolutely collassal match for us.
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This is just an absolutely collassal match for us.
Ah, not the only one worrying about it already
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This is just an absolutely collassal match for us.
Ah, not the only one worrying about it already
lose it and we are down, 5 points from 13 games and there is no way back
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Feeling very nervous today more so than usual, to give the club, the players but most importantly us fans some hope we simply have to win against Watford, anything less and I just cannot see a way back for us, please do it for us today Villa, cmon you Lions
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I think we will lose this 0-2, I just can't see where the goals for us will come from.
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Watford looked a decent outfit in their last game and i cannot see us scoring, hoping for a minor miracle but no confidence at all.
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I'm going for a Villa-find-their-mojo-season-defining 4-1.And I'll be bringing my binoculars to see from the back of A4
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I don't see Newcastle or Sunderland getting anything from their games, so a draw today wouldn't be a total disaster, however i'm not convinced we'll get that. A loss would mean relegation confirmed for me - I couldn't see a way back in the last few weeks and nothing has changed other than more chances to get points have passed us by.
Either a very lucky 1-1, but most likely for me... 0-2.
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A tetchy, nervous, backs-to-the-wall 1-0 home win. Fingers crossed for such a massive turnaround.
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Even i'm a bit nervous today. And I bet it's going to be sodding cold today!
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As usual, no idea of what will happen today but I expect it won't be good -- as usual.
There's a simple formula:
They score = we lose.
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I think we might be overestimating Watford a bit here guys, sure its a disgrace that we are 11 points behind them but they are a limited side. Physically strong definitely with good pace up top but thats about it. Their keeper is as likely to do a Guzan as Brad. Players like Watson and Cathcart are very limited.
Sanchez will be absolutely critical for us today in protecting our centre backs and winning physical challenges.
Our players simply have to be up for matching Watford physically for the entire 90 mins. If we do that I think we will sneak a win. Huge team selection but Im expecting a much improved display given that Garde will have had the team in for a whole week since the Everton game.
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It doesn't mean as much to Watford as it does to us. For them, a point would be an acceptable return and they will play for that.
Sorry, that's my straw and I'm clutching it.
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1-0 Villa. Ayew
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I don't see Newcastle or Sunderland getting anything from their games, so a draw today wouldn't be a total disaster, however i'm not convinced we'll get that. A loss would mean relegation confirmed for me - I couldn't see a way back in the last few weeks and nothing has changed other than more chances to get points have passed us by.
Either a very lucky 1-1, but most likely for me... 0-2.
A draw? If we are taking draws at home to Watford who exactly are we targeting to beat? We need to pick up some 3 pts, draws here and there against the worst sides in the Premier league at home isn't going to keep us up, we need wins and we need to go hell for leather today to get the win. Do whatever it takes, leave everything on the pitch, this is a huge game.
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I don't see Newcastle or Sunderland getting anything from their games, so a draw today wouldn't be a total disaster, however i'm not convinced we'll get that. A loss would mean relegation confirmed for me - I couldn't see a way back in the last few weeks and nothing has changed other than more chances to get points have passed us by.
Either a very lucky 1-1, but most likely for me... 0-2.
A draw? If we are taking draws at home to Watford who exactly are we targeting to beat? We need to pick up some 3 pts, draws here and there against the worst sides in the Premier league at home isn't going to keep us up, we need wins and we need to go hell for leather today to get the win. Do whatever it takes, leave everything on the pitch, this is a huge game.
Problem is I don't see us winning games the way things are going - We can do our best to try and win, but the reality is we need to concentrate on not losing first, and if a win comes with that, then great.
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I hate being nervous about a game before it even gets to lunchtime.
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I don't see Newcastle or Sunderland getting anything from their games, so a draw today wouldn't be a total disaster, however i'm not convinced we'll get that. A loss would mean relegation confirmed for me - I couldn't see a way back in the last few weeks and nothing has changed other than more chances to get points have passed us by.
Either a very lucky 1-1, but most likely for me... 0-2.
A draw? If we are taking draws at home to Watford who exactly are we targeting to beat? We need to pick up some 3 pts, draws here and there against the worst sides in the Premier league at home isn't going to keep us up, we need wins and we need to go hell for leather today to get the win. Do whatever it takes, leave everything on the pitch, this is a huge game.
Problem is I don't see us winning games the way things are going - We can do our best to try and win, but the reality is we need to concentrate on not losing first, and if a win comes with that, then great.
We need the confidence of a win somewhere. Soton and Arsenal next two up, we don't want the run continuing to no wins in 17 games.
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Not that nervous, just a bit resigned to our fate.
Nerves will really kick in around March/April as the games start to run out then. Hopefully we'll still be in touch at that stage.
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In a weird way, I'm looking forward to this. My optimism always rises during the week, so by the time Saturday comes around I expect to win. (Then on Sunday, we are usually the worst team ever and are certainties for drop). So this Saturday, I expect a cathartic, pent-up rage releasing smashing of Watford, akin to the 7-1 vs Wimbledon in Sir Brian's first season. But I'd settle for the equivalent of the 3-0 "we're gonna be alright" win vs Chelsea in the same season.
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Got a certain amount of dread. A loss doesn't definitely mean relegation - heck we'll lose again at some point, but for the team spirit, it's massive.
Please, please give us something today boys.
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Not that nervous, just a bit resigned to our fate.
Nerves will really kick in around March/April as the games start to run out then. Hopefully we'll still be in touch at that stage.
anything less than 3 wins from our next 6 games and we will know our fate by 1st jan. after 13 games we have the worst record in pl history and no team has ever survived with the amount of points we have after 13 games.
a point at home to watford wont do
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If we can't beat this lot at home then, you know the rest...
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I've just read 200 days without a league win at Villa Park. Not sure if it's true but bloody hell, let's put an end to it today. Glad a few are nervous, should make for a cracking atmosphere today as all that frustration and nerves are released.
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Looks like new line-up. Mainly french up front. Interesting. What will be lingua franca on field and sidelines. Zoot alors. Merde? Com si com ca? With coq au vin for Jack.
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I still don't buy that we are certainties for the drop. There is a fairly small margin in it. The manager appears to be switched on and I imagine Randy will have no choice but to back him in January.
Oh.... and I'm still bricking it.
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204 I think.
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I've gone for a draw - as a home win would be a greater shock to me than yet another defeat. So here's hoping The Villa give me & everybody on here a splendid shock & finally get this show on the road this afternoon. Let's 'avit!
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I've just read 200 days without a league win at Villa Park. Not sure if it's true but bloody hell, let's put an end to it today. Glad a few are nervous, should make for a cracking atmosphere today as all that frustration and nerves are released.
Yep, I'm bang up for this one. Finishing work in a few minutes and heading to B6.
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I still don't buy that we are certainties for the drop. There is a fairly small margin in it. The manager appears to be switched on and I imagine Randy will have no choice but to back him in January.
Oh.... and I'm still bricking it.
Agree, though if we continue the way we are going it is obviously dependent on those around us continuing to lose games as well. Even at this point we need the likes of Norwich and Swansea to be sucked into it. The more down there, the more chance we have got of getting out of it.
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1-0 Villa. Ayew
Can't see us keeping a clean sheet today. Hopefully we'll get the first goal and the lift it will give us will spur us on to get a few more. I'm going for 3-1 us.
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I still don't buy that we are certainties for the drop. There is a fairly small margin in it. The manager appears to be switched on and I imagine Randy will have no choice but to back him in January.
Oh.... and I'm still bricking it.
Agree, though if we continue the way we are going it is obviously dependent on those around us continuing to lose games as well. Even at this point we need the likes of Norwich and Swansea to be sucked into it. The more down there, the more chance we have got of getting out of it.
and hopefully if we get ourselves level, or ahead, the momentum will be with us.... sorry thats very Alan Shearer.
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1-0 Villa. Ayew
Can't see us keeping a clean sheet today. Hopefully we'll get the first goal and the lift it will give us will spur us on to get a few more. I'm going for 3-1 us.
We'll be ok mate, whatever the winning scoreline. I know we will win.
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Fuck me! There it is, our current predicament in, am, yellow and white...
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I'm going for a Villa-find-their-mojo-season-defining 4-1.And I'll be bringing my binoculars to see from the back of A4
I'm guessing you're currently on some sort of medication? What on Earth apart from hope could warrant that scoreline? :)
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Against all of my better judgement I am going for a Villa win today...I cannot back it up with anything at all but I just have a feeling!
Come on you Villa Boys!
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I'm going to get shot here but how about Traore one side, Ayew the other and errrr Gabby through the middle. Veretout, Gueye and Sanchez midfield 3 and back 4 of Okore, Clark, Richards and Hutton?
Yeah it's Gabby again but i'm completely out of ideas for the centre forward position. Ayew is wasted their, Gestede is a carthorse. Saturday might be one of Gabbys 2 games a season where he turns up.
I doubt it...I think KFC have a Black Friday Weekend Special on...he'll be there.
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Fuck me! There it is, our current predicament in, am, yellow and white...
Bit of a misleading stat though considering our top scorer from the past few seasons was just sold. Not saying we shouldn't be doing better because we should be. But Gabby was never going to be that bloke, Kozak has missed two seasons, Weimann was sold and the other two are new.
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What I would consider though, is starting with Kozak and getting Guzan out the side. I think it's too soon for Okore I think, and regardless, he's not great. I know Richards is something of a liability but he's one of the very few players with have who has even a modicum of character. I don't rate him as a skipper, but that said, I rate as the best option we have at the club, with the possible exception of Clark.
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Apparently he was very close to move to the Shite on loan in the week so clearly not part of Remi's plans.
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Although some see him as limited I think the work rate of Sinclair will be important. Ayew as well seems willing along with Gill.
Sanchez to just break everything up. Anyone expecting anything else from him shouldn't. That's the player he is.
Looking for a big game from Veretout. The dropping of Grealish should provoke a reaction - just not sure what that reaction will be.