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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Smirker on October 28, 2015, 06:48:13 PM
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Guzan
Hutton
Clark
Crespo
Amavi
Bacuna
Westwood
Richardson
Sanchez
Gabby
Gestede
Subs:
Bunn
Okore
Sinclair
Veretout
Ayew
Gil
Grealish
Disappointing line up.
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Rubbish midfield, barely championship quality. In fact it looks like a Championship side.
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That's got surrender all over it.
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Looks like a pretty nuts-and-bolts 4-4-2 that. Probably not going to be an entertaining match, then.
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Solid line up....we're too easy and weak with Gil, Grealish and Ayew all playing in the same team.
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Always hope to be proven wrong, but do we ever pick a decent team anymore?
The strikers-garbage.
Westwood-garbage
Hutton-garbage
Etc etc etc.
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I hope they prove me wrong, but that is shit.
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Is Sherwood still in charge FFS? What a miserable side that is. All the creativity and winning intent left on the bench. Fucking useless.
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4-4-2??
Shit team no matter what formation
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Solid line up....we're too easy and weak with Gil, Grealish and Ayew all playing in the same team.
One of them would be nice for a bit of creativity.
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We're going to be on the defensive all night and whack the ball long to Gestede. Ace
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Wow, that is a shit line up!
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Why is Crespo in over Okore as well, the guy needs minutes.
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Solid line up....we're too easy and weak with Gil, Grealish and Ayew all playing in the same team.
One of them would be nice for a bit of creativity.
There's nothing solid about that midfield anyway, incredibly small, lightweight and dull.
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The lack of any flair is bad. Adama and Gueye not in the squad. Or Kozak. It smacks of a manager that got done 6 zip in his last outing as caretaker and does not want a repeat. Amavi and Richardson down the left might work very well though.
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Why is Crespo in over Okore as well, the guy needs minutes.
I assume as they are only just back from injury he doesn't want to risk both.
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That looks awful.
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I'm half hoping I can't get WM now!
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Another case of trying to play shit first half?
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Why is Crespo in over Okore as well, the guy needs minutes.
I assume as they are only just back from injury he doesn't want to risk both.
Okore was getting training match minutes the end of last month though wasn't he?
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I think it's a team that has one big eye on Monday as I'd expect most of the bench plus Richards Gana and a couple of that starting team to play v Spurs
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Defend and nick a goal from a flick on.
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Got to be honest, that's a really poor side bearing in mind we don't play again until Monday night.
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The only positive is the return of Amavi. What was the risk in playing a side to win tonight? If we lose we lose but at least we would have tried to win.
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Can understand giving Gana and Grealish a rest, and pleased to see Clark in for Lescott.
However, annoyed about the lack of creativity. If we are experimenting a bit, why not give Traore a go? And why is it whenever Ayew plays well he gets dropped rather than being allowed to develop a run of form?
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When you see all those articles saying "Sherwood's not the problem, all of the mediocre players - that's the problem".
If the only evidence that they have to go on are teams like tonight's, you probably have to cut them a bit of slack for thinking that we're dull and rubbish.
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After seeing that line up, 3-1 Villa.
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Christ that's rubbish. McDonald out!
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fuck me thats a terrible team
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Adama needs game time.....so, let's leave him out of squad altogether. The club is joke. Why is Okore left out of the starting eleven? Club has a death wish...
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Pretty damning that every single player on the bench would improve us if they were put in the starting line up.
A good (foreign) manager and we'll easily stay up. Gil, Traore, Grealish, Ayew, Veretout are too good to sit on the bench over Kieran fucking Richardson.
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It could.well be that KMac .has been asked a weakened team
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Poor team that,routine Southampton win now I think
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Christ on a bike, there must be a manager out there who knows there's a middle ground between all-out attack and all-out defence.
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It could.well be that KMac .has been asked a weakened team
Asked by who?
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I know we may be 'throwing' this game due to League survival being a priority, but Christ, it makes my blood boil to see us play literally our worst eleven even now the shackles are off.
This would have been the perfect time to play Grealish, Gil, Traore behind the striker. If we're gonna lose, at least lose 5-4 and give the attacking players some confidence.
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What an awful, awful lineup.
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Obvious that we are saving players for Monday can't really knock them the leagues far more important.
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I assume at the end of this Sherwood will complain about the side being boring to watch.
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Southampton XI: Stekelenburg, Yoshida, Targett, van Dijk, Caulker, Ward-Prowse, Romeu, Wanyama, Ramirez, Pelle, Juanmi.
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Solid line up....we're too easy and weak with Gil, Grealish and Ayew all playing in the same team.
They are on the bench?
sorry miss read
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It could.well be that KMac .has been asked a weakened team
Asked by who?
Maybe Sherwood called him and pretended to be Tom Fox.
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strange selection, though we do appear to have some width tonight to supply Gestede and protection for the full backs.
Hate when we play two up top, would be far better off with a player off one forward
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That first 11 makes me very sad
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We don't play for 5 days, are the precious little things incapable of managing that?
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Gabby looks well up for it.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSVFuX6WwAAMRTQ.jpg)
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Fox, etc, maybe in consultation with new manager. Or not.
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Solid line up....we're too easy and weak with Gil, Grealish and Ayew all playing in the same team.
They are on the bench?
That's why I said solid.
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Basic 4-4-2. He'll hope for a fluke like when we won there 3-2, having had 5% possession and 1 shot.
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Actually glad it isn't on TV after seeing that line-up
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Why is Crespo in over Okore as well, the guy needs minutes.
I assume as they are only just back from injury he doesn't want to risk both.
Okore was getting training match minutes the end of last month though wasn't he?
Why is Crespo in over Okore as well, the guy needs minutes.
Accept the guy might look better than Okore...it's not difficult.
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Southampton XI: Stekelenburg, Yoshida, Targett, van Dijk, Caulker, Ward-Prowse, Romeu, Wanyama, Ramirez, Pelle, Juanmi.
I'm not up on Southampton, how strong is this for them? Koeman was talking about rotating as well. I imagine this will be a poor match.
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I'd play this team.
Richards is no centre back, Lescott isn't a top flight defender any longer (should have got him 10 years ago), christ knows where sinclair is (Not injured is he?), and Kozak definitely deserves a shot.
Bunn
Richards---Okore---Clarke---Amavi
Sinclair---Sanchez---Gardner---Grealish
Gil
Kozak
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I'd play this team.
Richards is no centre back, Lescott isn't a top flight defender any longer (should have got him 10 years ago), christ knows where sinclair is (Not injured is he?), and Kozak definitely deserves a shot.
Bunn
Richards---Okore---Clarke---Amavi
Sinclair---Sanchez---Gardner---Grealish
Gil
Kozak
Richards has played well more times than not, it's who he's paired up with that's the problem for me.
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Gabby looks well up for it.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSVFuX6WwAAMRTQ.jpg)
He looks quite proud of his carving
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Wow, that is one shit line up.
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I'd play this team.
Richards is no centre back, Lescott isn't a top flight defender any longer (should have got him 10 years ago), christ knows where sinclair is (Not injured is he?), and Kozak definitely deserves a shot.
Bunn
Richards---Okore---Clarke---Amavi
Sinclair---Sanchez---Gardner---Grealish
Gil
Kozak
Richards has played well more times than not, it's who he's paired up with that's the problem for me.
Kind of agree, but he's shone in what has been a very poor defensive unit. Personally, I don't think we need to play him at centre back - We have decent enough cover in that position in Clarke and Okore. Surely we'd look much stronger with him at right back than either Hutton or Bacuna, and Okore and Clarke in the middle?
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Gabby looks well up for it.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSVFuX6WwAAMRTQ.jpg)
He looks quite proud of his carving
Expected worse
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That is a horrible line up.
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Some were asking why not KMac for our next manager. Here's the answer: he obviously doesn't want it. What a team that is!
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Fox, etc, maybe in consultation with new manager. Or not.
Why is Crespo in over Okore as well, the guy needs minutes.
I assume as they are only just back from injury he doesn't want to risk both.
Okore was getting training match minutes the end of last month though wasn't he?
Why is Crespo in over Okore as well, the guy needs minutes.
Accept the guy might look better than Okore...it's not difficult.
The 90 minutes he gave against Stoke? Ok, we are in huge trouble then.
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I'd rather have just played the u21 team.
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Did Kozak just die or something?
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Southampton XI: Stekelenburg, Yoshida, Targett, van Dijk, Caulker, Ward-Prowse, Romeu, Wanyama, Ramirez, Pelle, Juanmi.
far from world beaters either, no Soares, Bertrand, Fonte, Davis, Mane, Sadic and Clasie from their team that played v Liverpool.
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Imagine how our fans down there feel after seeing that team. I'm glad I didn't bother going now!
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Did Kozak just die or something?
Only inside.
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Pathetic line up, nailed on to lose. Again......
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Hey ho hey ho...its out the cup we go!
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Did Kozak just die or something?
Only inside.
Applauds.
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There must be something going on in the background at Villa Park if he selects a team as awful as that.
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My fear is the game could be over before we bring in the talent from the bench.
This game could kill any remaining confidence.
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My fear is the game could be over before we bring in the talent from the bench.
This game could kill any remaining confidence.
No confidence? Jesus! I was relying on our cocky but shit team.
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The team selected would struggle in the Championship
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Southampton XI: Stekelenburg, Yoshida, Targett, van Dijk, Caulker, Ward-Prowse, Romeu, Wanyama, Ramirez, Pelle, Juanmi.
far from world beaters either, no Soares, Bertrand, Fonte, Davis, Mane, Sadic and Clasie from their team that played v Liverpool.
Indeed - so it's quite depressing that about eight of their team tonight would is probably better than our equivalent.
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Can we sack the caretaker manager? All joking aside it's fucking awful line up. This was a golden opportunity to give the likes of Veretout, Adama and Ayew a chance.
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Sigh.......that line up is awful.
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On the plus side, I bet Southampton weren't expecting that starting 11 so we may have got a tactical advantage by confusing them!
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our best and only chance of winning silverware is this cup so why put out a team as wank as this?
i feel sorry for those who have travelled
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The team selected would struggle in the Championship
We'll find out quite soon
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If i'd traveled down there tonight i'd be massively pissed off seeing that lineup. I really hope they prove me wrong and we win but jeeze, it's just deflating seeing that 11.
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The team selected would struggle in the Championship
We'll find out quite soon
Why do we have a game in the Championship soon?
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Can we sack the caretaker manager? All joking aside it's fucking awful line up. This was a golden opportunity to give the likes of Veretout, Adama and Ayew a chance.
this
plus clark and richards could have got a run together. i mean gabby and gestede ffs.
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I'd describe it as functional.
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The team selected would struggle in the Championship
We'll find out quite soon
Why do we have a game in the Championship soon?
About 10 months time
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Any wingers to utilise Gestede's only attribute? Possibly Bacuna. If not, we're playing with ten men.
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Is today national 'Play All Your Full Backs' day? I count five of them. Let's hope they prove me wrong but I wouldn't back that team to score in 90 games, let alone 90 minutes.
I think K-Mac is probably trying to create width to serve Gestede but it's still a depressing team. Gil and Veretout should have been ripe for a run.
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I hope they prove me wrong, but that is shit.
That's the kind of side that could have played against Chelsea or Swansea to grind out a draw and stop the losing run. It's not the side to put out in a cup games.
I agree with Gana getting a rest but where's Adama ?
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The team selected would struggle in the Championship
We'll find out quite soon
Why do we have a game in the Championship soon?
About 10 months time
And you wonder why people have a pop at you.
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Is today national 'Play All Your Full Backs' day? I count five of them. Let's hope they prove me wrong but I wouldn't back that team to score in 90 games, let alone 90 minutes.
I think K-Mac is probably trying to create width to serve Gestede but it's still a depressing team. Gil and Veretout should have been ripe for a run.
Tim's probably thinking, "damn, five fullbacks. Even I thought that was too weird a lineup option"
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The team selected would struggle in the Championship
We'll find out quite soon
Why do we have a game in the Championship soon?
About 10 months time
And you wonder why people have a pop at you.
For being a realist. No worse than some naive , happy clappy guy who thinks everything is wonderful . Have you noticed the state of the team, club, league table etcetc
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They just finished replaying the Brian Little interview. Cliche I know but let me say it just once, Fucking hell, how far we have fallen.
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Well at least we didn't chuck the blues game.
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happy clappy guy who thinks everything is wonderful
HOUSE!
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The team selected would struggle in the Championship
We'll find out quite soon
Why do we have a game in the Championship soon?
About 10 months time
And you wonder why people have a pop at you.
For being a realist. No worse than some naive , happy clappy guy who thinks everything is wonderful . Have you noticed the state of the team, club, league table etcetc
We're not down though are we?
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Saints defence as slapstick ours usually is.
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Come on lads! Sounds like a good start!
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How about giving it a fucking rest for 5 minutes? There's plenty of threads to moan on, leave this for the match as it's intended.
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Sounds an ok start so far.
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The team selected would struggle in the Championship
We'll find out quite soon
Why do we have a game in the Championship soon?
About 10 months time
And you wonder why people have a pop at you.
For being a realist. No worse than some naive , happy clappy guy who thinks everything is wonderful . Have you noticed the state of the team, club, league table etcetc
We're not down though are we?
Based on teams in previous seasons, it's more than likely, which is his point, as you already know, but choose to ignore because of who it is.
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Southampton defence all over the shop.
Westwood finally gets a ball over on the third attempt for Rudi. Close. Good start.
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Amavi playing left hand side of midfield by the sound of it.
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I cant see it but we sound like we are playing well.
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Anyway COYVB
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I've got the game on some dodgy stream so it is being shown somewhere. It looks like some lego men being drawn by an impressionist and the sound has just gone but I suppose it'll have to do. Just saw Westwood put in one of his best ever corners, it was okay.
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Pretty bog-standard 4-4-2, relying on crosses and so on, but it's not working badly so far - the players look relieved to actually have any plan at all.
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Jesus Jack, how about praising Villa a bit instead of gushing over Southampton?
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Jesus Jack, how about praising Villa a bit instead of gushing over Southampton?
He is a very nice person but truly awful when given a mic.
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I'd describe it as functional.
or more likely dysfunctional
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Not doing too bad so far.
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Our away support. Amazing.
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losing momentum now - struggling to put 2 passes together
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Jesus Jack, how about praising Villa a bit
I'm sure that he'd welcome some material on that front if anybody has anything.
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Well done to the fans tonight. Over 3k of them. Brilliant.
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Rudi goes close again.
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losing momentum now - struggling to put 2 passes together
Reverted to type.....
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Jesus Jack, how about praising Villa a bit instead of gushing over Southampton?
He is a very nice person but truly awful when given a mic.
His voice makes me want to insert curtain rods into my earholes.
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I meant more than 2 passes :)
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I played wide and I thought crossing the ball into someone's path was one of the easiest parts of the game....our lot obviously don't.
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Well, it's really really ugly stuff, but at least it's vaguely competent and effective ugly stuff.
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Reasonable so far, not a lot in it.
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We are playing pretty well so far better than I expected given the line up
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Well done to the fans tonight. Over 3k of them. Brilliant.
Yep, well done you loons.
I'm closer than most and even I couldn't face it
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our midfield two have been quiet so far, would have preferred Amavi left back and Rico further up
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I played wide and I thought crossing the ball into someone's path was one of the easiest parts of the game....our lot obviously don't.
Like how Bacuna stops the ball and takes a run up at it. Talk about telegraphing your intent.
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Well, it's really really ugly stuff, but at least it's vaguely competent and effective ugly stuff.
We don't look any different to me. Maybe more organised in defence. But we're still offering sod all going forward.
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Come on villa
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Well, it's really really ugly stuff, but at least it's vaguely competent and effective ugly stuff.
We don't look any different to me. Maybe more organised in defence. But we're still offering sod all going forward.
'More organised in defence' is pretty much what I meant. At least the horror makes sense.
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Amavi is still clearly our best player. Good job leaving him on the bench Dim Tim.
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Come on Villa.
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I wonder what sort of team would Paul Lambert pick from the current line up or say someone like Ron Atkinson or Brian Little.
My team would be
Bunn,
Ilori, Okore, Clark, Amavi
Sanchez, Gana
Veretout
Ayew, Kozak, Tratore
For tonight game. But I am not the manager/caretaker
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I played wide and I thought crossing the ball into someone's path was one of the easiest parts of the game....our lot obviously don't.
Like how Bacuna stops the ball and takes a run up at it. Talk about telegraphing your intent.
Exactly, frustrates me so much watching "professional" footballers who don't look "professional" at all.
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Ron Atkinson would definitely pick Ray Houghton.
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Kev mac doing better with us here than Sherwood managed last season at least.
Reasonable start.
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Amavi is still clearly our best player. Good job leaving him on the bench Dim Tim.
Hmmmmm.
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Amavi completely did their right-back, got in behind but slipped over.
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Amavi spending a good chunk of this half horizontal. Put in some proper studs at HT maybe?
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Cracking tackle Alan.
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Gestede at least looking above below average tonight. Maybe there is hope that even with this side we can compete. Bring the better players in we'll be ok.
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There's one tactic out there, but that is one more tactic than we're used to seeing.
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Did he just say Gabby hasn't scored since March?
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Did he just say Gabby hasn't scored since March?
Did he say which year?
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There's one tactic out there, but that is one more tactic than we're used to seeing.
Yeah, its back to basics but thats better than whatever the hell we were trying before.
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It's so amusing watching Westwood trying to harry the opposition players. He must dispossess them less than 10% of the time.
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It's only nil - nil,
How shit must you be,
it's only nil nil.
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Gestede is fucking awful. He can't protect the ball to save his life.
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Wow, something different tried at a corner.
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Is this online anywhere?
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I see Gabby's been spending his free time eating chips. He looks like a weeble.
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A line up like this is good for a functional base, problem comes when you try and fit Gil and Grealish into it is becomes much less stable.
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Gestede is fucking awful. He can't protect the ball to save his life.
He's bloody hopeless.
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Villa fans making all the noise. Southampton fans obviously don't fancy a wet Wednesday night in Southampton.
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Is this online anywhere?
*cough PM cough*
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It's only nil - nil,
How shit must you be,
it's only nil nil.
Where's the like button?
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When's the Last time gabby controlled a football? And bacuna for that matter!
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Hutton applauding a crap pass?
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30mins nothing much of substance.
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I see Gabby's been spending his free time eating chips. He looks like a weeble.
I was gonna mention that. He looks massive.
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Unfortunately KMac hasn't managed to sort out the 6 year problem of the "offensive throw-in" in his fifteen minutes with the squad.
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Bacuna god awful fucking footballer!
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When's the Last time gabby controlled a football? And bacuna for that matter!
Nit picking, tut.
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Kmac out !!
Based on team selection alone
No reasoning with that team - win or lose - Okore, Veretout, Kozak, Gil, Ayew all need game time and are we saying that Gestede and Agbonlahor is our first choice front line in his opinion too :(
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Hutton applauding a crap pass?
No, applauding the idea Sanchez had. Hutton should have committed to the run rather than halting
Amavi and Sanchez look impressive so far
Gestede and Bacuna don't look premier league level at all
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Good bit of play there, Bacuna close
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Great play by Bacuna. Shot straight at the keeper though.
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Close Bacuna!
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Good move there.
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Is this online anywhere?
*cough PM cough*
Can i have one too?
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Thats better!
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There's a real lack of quality in this side. Westwood, Bacuna, Gestede, Richardson, Gabby all first Division players.
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Fair play to Boro fans. 10,000 of them at Old Trafford tonight
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Fuck it I can't be negative or cynical anymore.
C'mon you villa bastards yis!!!
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We look good in yellow, but it does remind me of the relegation kit that was made by Henson.
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Is this online anywhere?
*cough PM cough*
Can i have one too?
Me cough too cough!
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Fair play to Boro fans. 10,000 of them at Old Trafford tonight
That pretty much always happens whenever Man U get a team that haven't played there in a while in the cup. I think Burton and Exeter managed similar.
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Is this online anywhere?
*cough PM cough*
Can i have one too?
Me cough too cough!
First row sports
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Gestede doing well what he does well tonight. While it might not be overly technical, we need to get some good crosses into him and players buzzing around him to pick up on knock downs/flicks.
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We look more organised at least.
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Hutton applauding a crap pass?
No, applauding the idea Sanchez had. Hutton should have committed to the run rather than halting
Amavi and Sanchez look impressive so far
Gestede and Bacuna don't look premier league level at all
not at game just listening to talk sport and following updates on here. Bit confused. Fans at the game giving Gestede pelters. Reporter at the game saying he is "unplayable" and Saints defenders can't handle him. WTF?
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Organisation is the thing we need the most.
Crespo has not looked too bad in either game so far (going on what has been said about him in the first half tonight)
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Lucky to get the offside there after Hutton tried something too fancy
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Stop your moaning. By this time in the game in May we were 5 nil down!
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Fuck it I can't be negative or cynical anymore.
C'mon you villa bastards yis!!!
That's the spirit. C'Mon you villa boys.
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Lucky offside there.
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Hutton applauding a crap pass?
No, applauding the idea Sanchez had. Hutton should have committed to the run rather than halting
Amavi and Sanchez look impressive so far
Gestede and Bacuna don't look premier league level at all
not at game just listening to talk sport and following updates on here. Bit confused. Fans at the game giving Gestede pelters. Reporter at the game saying he is "unplayable" and Saints defenders can't handle him. WTF?
Nothing to see really. A few balls he's popped his head on but hardly anything for him to do much with and a bit of weak hold up play....that's all.
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Hutton applauding a crap pass?
No, applauding the idea Sanchez had. Hutton should have committed to the run rather than halting
Amavi and Sanchez look impressive so far
Gestede and Bacuna don't look premier league level at all
not at game just listening to talk sport and following updates on here. Bit confused. Fans at the game giving Gestede pelters. Reporter at the game saying he is "unplayable" and Saints defenders can't handle him. WTF?
He's not . They can!
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Stop your moaning. By this time in the game in May we were 5 nil down!
Good shout.
Small steps.
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Lucky offside there.
Does he play for S'oton?
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Is this online anywhere?
*cough PM cough*
more coughing
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Is this online anywhere?
*cough PM cough*
Can i have one too?
Me cough too cough!
dose of influenza breaking out? I recommend a course of leeches.
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Close by Gestede
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This is bizarre. Westwood's corners are our biggest threat...
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Close from Gestede from the corner
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Even steven.
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5th Villa corner.
Rudi goes very close.
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Is everyone else's commentary in French? It's a sign....
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Stop your moaning. By this time in the game in May we were 5 nil down!
Okore was getting ripped to shreds.
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Organised. What a novelty. Keep it up, Villa.
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Is this online anywhere?
*cough PM cough*
Can i have one too?
Me cough too cough!
dose of influenza breaking out? I recommend a course of leeches.
I am actually in bed feeling like the onset of man flu is creeping upon me. Last time I felt like this we did Liverpool in the semi. I have taken to the same place.
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5th Villa corner.
Rudi goes very close.
Who's floating them in this evening
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Organisation is the thing we need the most.
Crespo has not looked too bad in either game so far (going on what has been said about him in the first half tonight)
BBC WM reporting that Villa are a well organised 4-4-2
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Bad starting line up but good display so far
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Sounds like we've been decent first half. Solid if unspectacular, which i'll take after the last couple of months! Even WM saying we were the better side and we look relaxed etc.
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Is everyone else's commentary in French? It's a sign....
The commentary was, then the adverts are a mix of dutch, and well.... Schteve McLaren voice overs.
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Considering the players out there, that could have been far worse.
Hopefully that wasn't our good half.
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5th Villa corner.
Rudi goes very close.
Who's floating them in this evening
Westwood - all in-swingers so far
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the interchanging of hutton and bacuna and amavi and richardson is working ok. Should take off Gestede or Gabby for Grealish or Ayew to give it more of a spark. Soton are there for the taking but you can see them winning 1-0
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Mine is in English, I've PM'd everyone with links to buy cough medicine.
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Second half we bring on our flair players and destroy them, it's our cup tactic. Someone's told Westwood to kick the ball properly too.
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It's been dull and largely uninspired, but we look quite solid at the back for a change, and as the game has gone on we've actually had the better of the play.
All things considered, this isn't bad. A set piece looks like our best bet. We can win this.
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Hutton applauding a crap pass?
No, applauding the idea Sanchez had. Hutton should have committed to the run rather than halting
Amavi and Sanchez look impressive so far
Gestede and Bacuna don't look premier league level at all
not at game just listening to talk sport and following updates on here. Bit confused. Fans at the game giving Gestede pelters. Reporter at the game saying he is "unplayable" and Saints defenders can't handle him. WTF?
He's not . They can!
According to the reporters they' ain't!
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Organised. What a novelty. Keep it up, Villa.
Probably helps not having Dim-Wit-Tim at the sideline, coaching a mix of cricket and ladies synchronised swimming...
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Is everyone else's commentary in French? It's a sign....
The commentary was, then the adverts are a mix of dutch, and well.... Schteve McLaren voice overs.
Mine's in English, I think I've taken a different route to the rest of you. It's crashed since half time though, hopefully it'll be back in a minute.
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Missed the last few mins, nil nil at HT?
edit. yup. :)
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the interchanging of hutton and bacuna and amavi and richardson is working ok. Should take off Gestede or Gabby for Grealish or Ayew to give it more of a spark. Soton are there for the taking but you can see them winning 1-0
I think Gabby is actually stretching them a bit. When we play it into space for him, their defenders are hurriedly booting it into touch.
Gestede might get us something from a set piece, but from open play he's been pretty anonymous. His movement is poor.
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We look alright :D
Gestede came close from the corner, hopefully K Mac brings on the likes of Gil, Grealish and Sinclair in the 2nd half.
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Hutton applauding a crap pass?
No, applauding the idea Sanchez had. Hutton should have committed to the run rather than halting
Amavi and Sanchez look impressive so far
Gestede and Bacuna don't look premier league level at all
not at game just listening to talk sport and following updates on here. Bit confused. Fans at the game giving Gestede pelters. Reporter at the game saying he is "unplayable" and Saints defenders can't handle him. WTF?
He's not . They can!
According to the reporters they' ain't!
Nope, they definitely are.
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Missed the last few mins, nil nil at HT?
Yup. Came close at the death though from....wait for it....a decent corner from Westwood
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Tactically this is easily the best we've looked all season, everyone looks like they know their job. There's a little bit of a lack of quality around the box but we've looked threatening at a few corners and Bacuna had a good chance (that he created himself) that he hit straight at the keeper. Nothing spectacular but all the evidence you need that the squad is better than they were looking.
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Who's on the bench assisting Kmac?
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Missed the last few mins, nil nil at HT?
Yup. Came close at the death though from....wait for it....a decent corner from Westwood
Whoa!
Cheers!
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Any sign of Remi at the game or is that too hopefull
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Positives: we're 0-0, should be winning, under Sherwood we'd be 1-0 down to a late goal. Let's see how the second half now goes.
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The starting XI seems disappointing, with a championship midfield and the most talented players on the bench.
But with which formation are we playing?
4-4-2? 4-3-3? Others?
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It's been dull and largely uninspired, but we look quite solid at the back for a change, and as the game has gone on we've actually had the better of the play.
All things considered, this isn't bad. A set piece looks like our best bet. We can win this.
Would agree with that, been very solid at centre half so far too.
Definitely will need changes in the second half - cant see Rico, Gabby or Sanchez lasting the 90 mins.
Hopefully the artisans we have on can keep it up until a couple of artists come on later to give it the coup de grace
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Nothing spectacular but all the evidence you need that the squad is better than they were looking.
Was thinking the same thing.
A solid 442 where everyone knows their job, hardly ground breaking tactics wise, but we look an improved team.
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WM also saying Gabby and Gestede have caused Saints problems.
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This is bizarre. Westwood's corners are our biggest threat...
What the... :o
ps I've just got in & seen the score. VERY happy to see we've kept a clean sheet thus far. Keep it goin' lads (& here's to grabbing an cheeky win to boost everybody's moral!).
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It's the boggiest of bog-standard 4-4-2s, but the two central midfielders are sitting deep pretty much all the time so we're not getting overrun at least. Uninspiring, but quite solid - a bit like MON's tactics, to be honest.
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5th Villa corner.
Rudi goes very close.
Who's floating them in this evening
Westwood - all in-swingers so far
Interesting maybe someone has told him to stop floating and start whipping in swingers in .
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Hutton applauding a crap pass?
No, applauding the idea Sanchez had. Hutton should have committed to the run rather than halting
Amavi and Sanchez look impressive so far
Gestede and Bacuna don't look premier league level at all
not at game just listening to talk sport and following updates on here. Bit confused. Fans at the game giving Gestede pelters. Reporter at the game saying he is "unplayable" and Saints defenders can't handle him. WTF?
He's not . They can!
According to the reporters they' ain't!
Nope, they definitely are.
According to the neutral reporters they are struggling to cope with him.
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Considering the players out there, that could have been far worse.
Hopefully that wasn't our good half.
The next time a manager finally gets us out of that good half / bad half thing, I reckon we should build a fucking statue of him.
If any manager gets us consistently moving off the ball and creating space, we should name the ground after him.
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Has David Villa done his coaching badges?
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Hutton applauding a crap pass?
No, applauding the idea Sanchez had. Hutton should have committed to the run rather than halting
Amavi and Sanchez look impressive so far
Gestede and Bacuna don't look premier league level at all
not at game just listening to talk sport and following updates on here. Bit confused. Fans at the game giving Gestede pelters. Reporter at the game saying he is "unplayable" and Saints defenders can't handle him. WTF?
He's not . They can!
According to the reporters they' ain't!
Nope, they definitely are.
According to the neutral reporters they are struggling to cope with him.
Yes, I'm not misunderstanding what you're saying.
Irrespective of that, they're still coping.
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Organised. What a novelty. Keep it up, Villa.
We're certainly keeping them out of our box. Defence and midfield working well together. Shame we're limiting ourselves to hoofing it up to Rudi or whacking down the line for Gabby to chase. There are moments we actually look good moving the ball around.
Southampton look very poor.
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They might not be the best players in the world, or even at Villa, but they look like they know what they're supposed to do. And that really helps.
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No Richards , no lescott and we keep a clean sheet. What can we learn from this
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Is this being streamed anywhere?
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No Richards , no lescott and we keep a clean sheet. What can we learn from this
That it's only half time :-)
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No Richards , no lescott and we keep a clean sheet. What can we learn from this
That... we're at best halfway through the match and at worst less than two-thirds of the way through the match so talking about a clean sheet is pretty pointless?
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Hutton applauding a crap pass?
No, applauding the idea Sanchez had. Hutton should have committed to the run rather than halting
Amavi and Sanchez look impressive so far
Gestede and Bacuna don't look premier league level at all
not at game just listening to talk sport and following updates on here. Bit confused. Fans at the game giving Gestede pelters. Reporter at the game saying he is "unplayable" and Saints defenders can't handle him. WTF?
He's not . They can!
According to the reporters they' ain't!
Nope, they definitely are.
According to the neutral reporters they are struggling to cope with him.
Yes, I'm not misunderstanding what you're saying.
Irrespective of that, they're still coping.
I concur with that opinion.
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Westwood actually ran forwards there
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Decent players playing in a predictable formation.
Right now that feels like promotion. Enjoying it. I still reckon the odds are against us this match but its nice to see us be solid and no nonsense for a change.
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No Richards , no lescott and we keep a clean sheet. What can we learn from this
That... we're at best halfway through the match and at worst less than two-thirds of the way through the match so talking about a clean sheet is pretty pointless?
Small steps though like you said
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Sitting too deep now
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Saints stepping it up?
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Time to unleash Sinclair!
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Is this being streamed anywhere?
*cough* *hack* PM *retch* :)
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i'm not one to talk but Gabby looks like he is carrying more timber than usual.
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Shit
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Maybe it's the reserves tonight and the first team on Monday
Bunn
Richards Okore Lescott
Adama Gil Veretout Gana Grealish
Sinclair Ayew
Subs Gardner Kozak N'Zogbia
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No Richards , no lescott and we keep a clean sheet. What can we learn from this
That... we're at best halfway through the match and at worst less than two-thirds of the way through the match so talking about a clean sheet is pretty pointless?
Small steps though like you said
Being at 0-0 at halftime didn't really help us on Saturday did it?
So what is the step that has been made?
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Shit
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Outmanouvered in midfield. The old MON problem.
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fuck! :(
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they are
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Ah yes... We go again
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Right, get some exciting players on now Villa, you boring bastards.
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Fucking typical. Weak challenges, inviting the shot, and keeper could do better I think. We've Aston Villa'd it up.
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Ack.
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Oh dear.
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Oh well. We can concentrate on going down now, anyway.
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It doesn't even hurt anymore.
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Bloody TYPICAL!!
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That was a shit tackle who was that?
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Amavi getting some blame on WM.
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He ran straight through the middle like a knife through butter, no fucking challenge on him at all.
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Crespo looked lost there.
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Kmac seems to find it amusing. Odd reaction.
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We've dominated the game without creating much. Their first real chance and they score :(
I'd get Jack on in the next 5 minutes and Ayew for Gestede ten minutes after that if it stays the same.
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Outmanouvered in midfield. The old MON problem.
We have been outmanoeuvred in the middle for years come to think of it.
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It doesn't even hurt anymore.
I was just thinking that. I feel nothing about this.
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That was a shit tackle who was that?
Amavi.
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Super defensive line up that gets torn through with ease by a centre half playing right back.
Just accept were shit defensively and get some of our attacking players on from the start ffs.
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That's the type of shot we haven't got the confidence to try anymore.
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It's only 1-0 lads. Long way to go. Chin up and all that.
*exhausted face*
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Not watching but listening on WM is Westwood playing? He has not been mentioned this half. Is he having a shit?
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Come on KMac, unleash the forces of darkness sitting on the bench.
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54 minutes in lads, not 90. Lets just enjoy the rest of the match. Make some subs and have a go. You know, why not?
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If anyone wishes to PM me about small rivers I'd be grateful (sucker for punishement)
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54 minutes in lads, not 90. Lets just enjoy the rest of the match. Make some subs and have a go. You know, why not?
This
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It's getting to the point that scoring a goal will feel like a victory.
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Ouch. Guzan took Hutton out really well there
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Let's get Ayew on for Gestede.
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Where's Illori?
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If anyone wishes to PM me about small rivers I'd be grateful (sucker for punishement)
The River Cole. Runs through stechford
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Kmac seems to find it amusing. Odd reaction.
I think he was commiserating with the fourth official about the mouthful he had just received from Hutton
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Hutton applauding a crap pass?
No, applauding the idea Sanchez had. Hutton should have committed to the run rather than halting
Amavi and Sanchez look impressive so far
Gestede and Bacuna don't look premier league level at all
not at game just listening to talk sport and following updates on here. Bit confused. Fans at the game giving Gestede pelters. Reporter at the game saying he is "unplayable" and Saints defenders can't handle him. WTF?
He's not . They can!
According to the reporters they' ain't!
Nope, they definitely are.
According to the neutral reporters they are struggling to cope with him.
Yes, I'm not misunderstanding what you're saying.
Irrespective of that, they're still coping.
well as the scoreline is 0-0 they are obviously coping. Reports are saying they are struggling to. Semantics I guess.
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Seen the goal.
Tragic.
Crespo central defender is quite a bizarre idea. He is a right back and in his role he was reserve in my local team in the Italian Serie B.
Never I would have thought that he could play in the Villa starting XI as central defender.
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Kmac seems to find it amusing. Odd reaction.
I think he was commiserating with the fourth official about the mouthful he had just received from Hutton
Ah! I do like Hutton :)
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54 minutes in lads, not 90. Lets just enjoy the rest of the match. Make some subs and have a go. You know, why not?
This
I think that's what's known as the triumph of hope over experience.
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A more organised Villa but, lets try something as this not as important as league. Southampton will rip us a new one though........
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Outmanouvered in midfield. The old MON problem.
We have been outmanoeuvred in the middle for years come to think of it.
We've been outmanoevered everywhere on the sodding pitch for years! We're stuck in a perpetual nightmare. :(
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54 minutes in lads, not 90. Lets just enjoy the rest of the match. Make some subs and have a go. You know, why not?
Enjoy what mate? Another loss, another 0, another game with barely any shots?
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Guzan nearly kills Hutton, obviously not much communication going on
need to change it tactically, out front two arent working to put it mildly
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Attack attack attack attack attack !!!!
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Looks like that was our good half, after all. We've been abject since half-time.
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54 minutes in lads, not 90. Lets just enjoy the rest of the match. Make some subs and have a go. You know, why not?
Enjoy what mate? Another loss, another 0, another game with barely any shots?
Well I am actually enjoying the way we are playing.
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Ayew getting ready to come on.
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Pretty shit shot by Westwood
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Westwood really should do better there. Easy goalscoring chance and he toe poked it right at the keeper.
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Ayew and Grealish.
For Bacuna and Amavi
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26 for 1 if Villa turns this around...time to wager the rentmoney !
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Westwood in can't-kick-a-football shocker.
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Ayew & Grealish coming on
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we can still win this
meanwhile,while I wait im off to eat hay with a donkey
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Touch harsh on Westwood there, he got clattered as it was, he did well to get a shot away at all.
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Sounds better, come on Villa!
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Good effort Gabby. Well saved.
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Bloody hell Gabby, close man!
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Great attempt by Gabby after Jack's air shot
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KMac showing he learned bewildering substitutions from Sherwood -surely it should be Grealish for Richardson.
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4-2-3-1 now, looks a bit more of a threat. Good effort by Gabby.
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No fucking way should we be losing this game. Playing well.
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Fuckin hell when did Westwood suddenly learn to take corners?!? He must so have been under orders before. Bizarre
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I'd forgotten our away kit was yellow. I haven't been to any aways this season and only bother to watch highlights when we win... so first time I've seen it since August!
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KMac showing he learned bewildering substitutions from Sherwood -surely it should be Grealish for Richardson.
Exactly, the fans booed that decision too.
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No fucking way should we be losing this game. Playing well.
Our fucking luck lately.
Better by villa but were there boos when Grealish came on?
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Biggest shock of the night so far. BBC 5 live are covering Man United.
Grealish is on. Come on Jackie boy. Cheer us up.
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Do you know what? I actually like Hutton.
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No fucking way should we be losing this game. Playing well.
Our fucking luck lately.
Better by villa but were there boos when Grealish came on?
I've got it muted, but I'd guess that it would be more to do with Amavi coming off.
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Can't even get it on the wireless.
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No fucking way should we be losing this game. Playing well.
Our fucking luck lately.
Better by villa but were there boos when Grealish came on?
More for taking Amavi off?
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No fucking way should we be losing this game. Playing well.
Our fucking luck lately.
Better by villa but were there boos when Grealish came on?
The boos were for Amavi going off.
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We're looking like a bunch of fucking lemons again
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Do you know what? I actually like Hutton.
Every team needs at least one hard bastard.
He's not great, but I thought our fans were very harsh on him at the start of his Villa career.
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We're looking like a bunch of fucking lemons again
That's the yellow kit.
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Scotty 2 Hotty waiting to come on.
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No fucking way should we be losing this game. Playing well.
Our fucking luck lately.
Better by villa but were there boos when Grealish came on?
I've got it muted, but I'd guess that it would be more to do with Amavi coming off.
I actually have AVTV on, but muted
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Rudy off.
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No fucking way should we be losing this game. Playing well.
Our fucking luck lately.
Better by villa but were there boos when Grealish came on?
More for taking Amavi off?
Ah, cheers. Listening via WM so wasnt sure.
We look bit better. Lets see what Sinclair can do
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GESTEDE OFF! Wow, we might actually start playing normal football.
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Gone to a 433 by the sounds of it.
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I cant fault gabby's effort today.
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Has Gabby got Sherwood's gilet on under his shirt?
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Can't even get it on the wireless.
you got ethernet cable?
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Just checked out Southamptons sponsor, they make toy drones. Quite cool
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Can't even get it on the wireless.
Have you tried the stereogram?
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would prefer to see Ayew leading the line rather than Gabby or Sinclair.
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Can't even get it on the wireless.
you got ethernet cable?
Just iPhone on wifi
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subs making no impact thus far.
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subs making no impact thus far.
Sigh!
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We look bit better. Lets see what Sinclair can do
Just watch you don't tread in it.
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Game over.
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Shite defence. Game over.
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Game over. Shit defending yet again
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Ah fuck, well thats that then. Shame.
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thank you and goodnight
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Fuck off.
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Oh well, that's a defeat. At least it's not in the league.
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Goodnight Vienna.
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subs making no impact thus far.
There's a surprise
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All over
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There we go.
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We look bit better. Lets see what Sinclair can do
Just watch you don't tread in it.
I'll get the cillit bang and the air freshner........ah well, didnt want the cup anyway :(
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All Ayew's fault, fucking donkey.
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saving ourselves for the big cup
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Oh well, that's that then.
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Bye bye league cup
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All feeling very familiar.
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Absolutely pathetic, we shouldve been busting a gut to get back into this and weve done fuck all from 60 minutes on and them watch them score a second, un-professional, gutless, wank.
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"Same every game, we play well and lose." :-\
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15mins left. Second best this half. and...... thats it. Goodnight all
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The club is a rotten fucking shambles.
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Clark was shit there
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bordering on the obscene
we are becoming a fucking laughing stock
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Fuck it, can't be arsed with another defeat. Going the pub. Shit side.
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Normal service is resumed. We've been fucking awful this half. I can't work out where the forwards are supposed to be playing.
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Becoming?
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You know, I'm really getting bored of not winning anything. It would be nice to win SOMETHING. Since we last did, Boro, Swansea, even fucking Blues have won something - why can't we?
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Same old shite.
Marvellous.
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Been coming,don't even look like scoring.
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it's not only that they defend badly but also that they do not look like scoring
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you are a factory of sadness
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They are gonna get three aint they?
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I was a teenager when we last won something, i'm not far off 40 now....ye gods.
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Grealish needs to play on the wing. Get him one on one with the full back and he does him every time. If we get the ball to him quick enough and get men in the box, he can create chance after chance.
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This will be 3 or 4
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According to the Beeb Southampton have had just 2 shots on target
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They haven't even been great and are winning comfortably ::)
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In fairness, a great ball from Stephen Davis followed by some lazy ball watching from Clark.
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i don't tell my 7 yr old lad when Villa are playing anymore because i'm fed up seeing the disappointment in his face when he asks me the result later. He should know Villa are playing in the cup tonight but i haven't the heart to tell him cos he'll want to know the score when he wakes up. Hells bells it's tragic being a Villa fan these days.
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Grealish needs to play on the wing. Get him one on one with the full back and he does him every time. If we get the ball to him quick enough and get men in the box, he can create chance after chance.
Was just thinking the same thing. He actually looks productive there.
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They are gonna get three aint they?
No. We don't lose by more than 2 goals.
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Grealish needs to play on the wing. Get him one on one with the full back and he does him every time. If we get the ball to him quick enough and get men in the box, he can create chance after chance.
Grealish is overrated.
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Hutton bacuna Westwood sanchez gestede agbonlahor Richardson all get fucked! Would gladly never see u in villa shirts again no matter what division we will be in!!
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Hairy jiz Pringles.
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Cricket season can't come round quick enough.
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It's all academic anyway. Looks like Man Ci£y are taking it seriously.
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In fairness, a great ball from Stephen Davis followed by some lazy ball watching from Clark.
and a finish we can only dream of from one of our forwards
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Think Southampton are very unsporting - we keep giving them the ball and they never give it back
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The most telling thing is the Southampton fans do little more than applaud the goals. Playing us a victory is almost a given.
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According to the Beeb Southampton have had just 2 shots on target
Its pretty cruel. Genuinely I think we have been the better side by far for almost the whole game.
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The misery continues then.
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sticking pins in my Lerner doll
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You know, I'm really getting bored of not winning anything. It would be nice to win SOMETHING. Since we last did, Boro, Swansea, even fucking Blues have won something - why can't we?
Southampton won the Football League Trophy in the same season we lost to United in the League Cup Final. They would now be favourites for any game we played against them in the foreseeable future.
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Another game we only compete for 45 minutes .So depressing!
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In fairness, a great ball from Stephen Davis followed by some lazy ball watching from Clark.
and a finish we can only dream of from one of our forwards
Yes I think that's the main difference tonight. Our strikers just aren't capable of the goals saints have scored.
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Pellè has been having "shots in" like boys in the park with jumpers for goldpsosts, enduring image, isn't it.
According to the BBC stats we have had 11 shots with 6 on target. They have had 6 shots with 2 on target and 2 goals. And we have had 7 corners to their 2.
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As we fucking pss it side to side 30 yards from goal over and over a fucking gain, Gabby and Sinclair are standing next to each other fucking chatting, move you braindead ******!!
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sticking pins in my Lerner doll
Not sure we want to know what you do with your blow up doll!
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Think Southampton are very unsporting - we keep giving them the ball and they never give it back
Bastards
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Does it piss anyone else off to see Westwood standing still with both arms aloft? Fucking move you prick
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Their two subs Davis and Tadic have changed the game
Grealish looks a lot better on the left, our other two subs Ayew and Sinclair have hardly had a kick
Really hard to see where the next goal is coming from for us
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I was a teenager when we last won something, i'm not far off 40 now....ye gods.
I can barely remember it. Got a Villa ball with it on at the time but too young to watch or understand football at the time.
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Grealish needs to play on the wing. Get him one on one with the full back and he does him every time. If we get the ball to him quick enough and get men in the box, he can create chance after chance.
Grealish is overrated.
Is he? Who by? He seems to get loads of unwarranted stick on here.
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i don't tell my 7 yr old lad when Villa are playing anymore because i'm fed up seeing the disappointment in his face when he asks me the result later. He should know Villa are playing in the cup tonight but i haven't the heart to tell him cos he'll want to know the score when he wakes up. Hells bells it's tragic being a Villa fan these days.
same here. He only knows we've played when we win which is once in a blue moon.
we are fucking useless
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Grealish needs to play on the wing. Get him one on one with the full back and he does him every time. If we get the ball to him quick enough and get men in the box, he can create chance after chance.
Grealish is overrated.
I don't think he is. I think he's been playing in a shit team, under a shit manager who started going on about him being a n°10 and putting too much responsibility on his shoulders, then giving him carthorses like Gabby and Gestede to link up with.
He can dribble while protecting the ball and beat a man almost at will. If he was playing for Arsenal or someone, he'd look amazing.
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According to the Beeb Southampton have had just 2 shots on target
Its pretty cruel. Genuinely I think we have been the better side by far for almost the whole game.
I know we've been much worse than this recently but to say we've been better is pretty far off the mark. Aside from a few corners and long range efforts we've created fuck all.
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Does it piss anyone else off to see Westwood standing still with both arms aloft? Fucking move you prick
It pisses me off to see Westwood in a Villa shirt
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Just seeing Villa shirts pisses me off lately.
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3,100 fans need applauding.
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So. Everybody still think the squad is sound and the manager is the only problem?
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Sigh. Well I enjoyed most of the game. Shame it ended with the usual.
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We've been the better side for most of the game but we don't look like scoring. We've had at least 3 times the number of chances. Southampton have just been clinical.
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One thing that really boils my piss is the way players run forward when we attack, then stand still as if their job is somehow done. Fucking keep moving!
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So. Everybody still think the squad is sound and the manager is the only problem?
Yes.
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Penalty!
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Same shit, different day
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So. Everybody still think the squad is sound and the manager is the only problem?
The squad is lower mid table championship level . That's the issue .
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So Gabby got another goal-less 90 minutes under his belt.
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did we crash
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So Gabby got another goal-less 90 minutes under his belt.
Not a problem. He'll most likely score in a club later.
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So. Everybody still think the squad is sound and the manager is the only problem?
The squad is lower mid table championship level . That's the issue .
I entirely agree. Some people seem to think they just need to be organised and motivated. I cannot see it. Where is the quality?