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Title: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on October 13, 2015, 02:19:09 PM
Sat 16 Oct 2015, Brompton Cemetery Storage Shed, 3pm KO

There's no use denying it any longer, Villa have to play a game on Saturday.

Maybe nine this time ?
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on October 13, 2015, 02:20:44 PM
Yes let's start that winning run at ST. 0-2
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on October 13, 2015, 02:29:42 PM
Come on Villa. Smash this horrible lot. I've not given up on Sherwood, yet.

I think we will draw 3-3
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on October 13, 2015, 02:46:00 PM
Ugh is it that time again? Defeat, routine confidence building win for those slags, 0-3.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tony Erdington on October 13, 2015, 02:47:46 PM
fackin hate chelsea and all they stand for
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on October 13, 2015, 02:49:23 PM
Er.. I think there is a possibility we might lose this one.  4-1  Gestede or Adama.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on October 13, 2015, 02:53:31 PM
I'm going but I'm treating it as just a reconnaissance trip for a gig that me and Woofles are attending at 'Under the Bridge' in February.

Hopefully that way I can blank the actual football from my memory
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on October 13, 2015, 03:01:37 PM
The league table doesn't lie. So they aren't much better than us, a hard fought 2-2.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on October 13, 2015, 03:18:01 PM
DOOOOOOOOOOM
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on October 13, 2015, 03:31:21 PM

I'll go something like 4-1

With another completely baffling team selection and formation
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on October 13, 2015, 03:36:54 PM
Sigh
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on October 13, 2015, 03:43:20 PM
DOOOOOOOOOOM

I suggest Candlemass or My Dying Bride, maybe a bit of early Paradise lost
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on October 13, 2015, 03:45:04 PM
I think Tim will go on all out attack and throw caution to the wind. Go kamizaze if that is the correct term. Jose will set up his team to keep us out and they will defend heroically to the last man. The last man will score four goals and we will accept a 4-1 loss as a great moral victory!
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 13, 2015, 03:51:13 PM
I had a nice cathartic rant at that Chelsea whopper that came on here last season asking what we thought of his club. I wished I'd saved it now.

I hate these toss bags. The vilest of the vile.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: David_Nab on October 13, 2015, 03:59:46 PM
At some point in the season the media will ask Jose when did things turn around for Chelsea and he will point to the easy 3 -0 win over as as that turning point ..

Nothing is more certain in football than us being turned over by a team in desperate need of a win
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on October 13, 2015, 04:00:29 PM
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Sat 16 Oct 2015, Brompton Cemetery Storage Shed, 3pm KO

Oct 17th

I can't stand them - from the hijacking of the Harry J Allstars, to the JT banner, to the posh kids acting hard, to the glorifying of the Shed End, to the Gordon Ramsey restaurant near the away end, to the inevitable Villa humiliation.......

I'm not going - meeting some mates for a few in the pub near the ground before kick off, then I'm saving myself £55. So we'll probably win
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Left Side on October 13, 2015, 04:01:41 PM
3-1 to them, boo
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: MarkM on October 13, 2015, 04:05:04 PM
4-0 to them (maybe 5)
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tom_Mc9? on October 13, 2015, 04:07:10 PM
If Tim Sherwood thinks Charlie N'fuckingZogbia is the answer, then I'll most certainly think Tim is not. It'll just be a case of Villa starting XI lottery and him not having a bloody clue what to do.

In all likelihood we'll lose and probably heavily. I can take losing as long as we don't do our usual stupid circus act.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on October 13, 2015, 04:11:42 PM
3-0 Chelsea.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: BoskoDjembaSalifou on October 13, 2015, 04:13:54 PM
An embarrassing 6-0 defeat. Sherwood sacked shortly after.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: postal on October 13, 2015, 04:35:02 PM
An embarrassing 6-0 defeat. Sherwood sacked shortly after.
Unless the team put a shift in ( and look like a team with a plan) and Sherwood isn't slumped in his chair after 10 mins ( even if its still 0-0 ) and we only lose by 1 or 2, Sherwood should be a man and resign. But he wont.

Just as Lambert didnt resign as he wanted his big fat pay off.

I did smile at the

"Away Win...no...seriously...hear me out....it could happen"

Nice one!   ;D
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Nastylee on October 13, 2015, 04:42:11 PM
Can't be arsed with building any optimistic thoughts to have the dashed by about 3.10 on Saturday.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 13, 2015, 04:43:38 PM
We're more than capable of getting a result there. In reality the Sherwood drag factor will probably mean we lose. Again.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CT Villan on October 13, 2015, 05:06:11 PM
I'm going for a draw, but that's just deluded, misplaced optimism and a vain hope that they don't ruin another weekend for me (and the family)
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Uknowthescore on October 13, 2015, 05:10:03 PM
Can only see a heavy defeat I'm afraid, but on the plus side it maybe sherwoods last game 🙏
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 13, 2015, 05:15:27 PM
I think they'll score more than 3. We won't outscore them. I just hope we're not humiliated again.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cheltenhamlion on October 13, 2015, 05:18:59 PM
The only way we won't get tonked is if Jose shuts up shop when they go two up as he is desperate for a result. I think it might be a very long afternoon though.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on October 13, 2015, 05:32:19 PM
New one torn. 5-0 defeat
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on October 13, 2015, 05:33:26 PM
They are not going to shut up shop. Everyone has really enjoyed laughing at Chelsea and the moaning one, so if they get a couple ahead they are going to want to rub it in everyones faces and smash the shit out of someone. Pathetically though I'd accept a beating if it meant getting rid of our manager.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on October 13, 2015, 05:35:39 PM
According to an article in yesterday's Meaning Evil, Timah is jettisoning the conservative, cautious approach and reverting to playing without fear and allowing the players to express their attacking instincts.

This will no doubt be music to the ears of some posters, but I cannot see it ending well in this instance.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 13, 2015, 05:37:09 PM
Doing that at home to shite like Stoke and the Bitters would have been nice.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on October 13, 2015, 05:43:41 PM
According to an article in yesterday's Meaning Evil, Timah is jettisoning the conservative, cautious approach and reverting to playing without fear and allowing the players to express their attacking instincts.

This will no doubt be music to the ears of some posters, but I cannot see it ending well in this instance.

Yep, couple of weeks too late. Last chance saloon and the chancer is going all in.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on October 13, 2015, 05:43:49 PM
Doing that at home to shite like Stoke and the Bitters would have been nice.

Exactly what I thought when I read the article.


 
 
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: preston28 on October 13, 2015, 05:51:36 PM
Absolutely no chance. As usual we give a team in poor form a boost. 4-0 to Chelsea.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cheltenhamlion on October 13, 2015, 06:03:34 PM
They are not going to shut up shop. Everyone has really enjoyed laughing at Chelsea and the moaning one, so if they get a couple ahead they are going to want to rub it in everyones faces and smash the shit out of someone. Pathetically though I'd accept a beating if it meant getting rid of our manager.

As if by magic on the Sherwood out thread....
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TopDeck113 on October 13, 2015, 06:08:45 PM
Really looking forward to Saturday's match...




















...a friend's brother can't make it, so I'm taking his season ticket in the posh seats at the Etihad...
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on October 13, 2015, 06:19:58 PM
Moanhino needs to win this to keep his job, so a spanking E L James would be proud of could be on the cards, in which case Sherwood would be on his bike. Either way come 5 o'clock Saturday one of them will be out of a job. My money's on Sherwood. 4-1 to the classless ones
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Malandro on October 13, 2015, 06:25:02 PM
Ivanovic out of the game - that's one certain goal scorer out.

7 nil.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Steve kirk on October 13, 2015, 06:29:18 PM
4-1 defeat and Tim a step closer to the exit door.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Stu on October 13, 2015, 06:50:40 PM
According to an article in yesterday's Meaning Evil, Timah is jettisoning the conservative, cautious approach and reverting to playing without fear and allowing the players to express their attacking instincts.

This will no doubt be music to the ears of some posters, but I cannot see it ending well in this instance.

Yeah, take the risk against Chelsea away but not against Stoke at home. If it does happen, that would just about sum Sherwood up.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on October 13, 2015, 06:55:11 PM
I have a sneaking suspicion that they will score more goals then we will.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villafirst on October 13, 2015, 07:06:49 PM
A repeat of December 2012? The odd thing about that result was the week before at Anfield, we thrashed Lpool 3-1 with a stunning performance.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tom_Mc9? on October 13, 2015, 07:15:12 PM
Ivanovic out of the game - that's one certain goal scorer out.

7 nil.

The issue with that of course is that Ivanovic has been bloody awful this season.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on October 13, 2015, 07:29:28 PM
Doing that at home to shite like Stoke and the Bitters would have been nice.

Exactly what I thought when I read the article.
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and me, he is really showing himself up for what he is

a fuckwit
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: walsall villain on October 13, 2015, 07:33:46 PM
3-0 stroll to them. Sherwood out by Tuesday. Next please.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: curlytailavfc on October 13, 2015, 07:45:10 PM
8-0 no shots on target
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on October 13, 2015, 07:47:59 PM
Straight loss obviously.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: steamer on October 13, 2015, 07:52:19 PM
call me Fickle, but with this game and the rugby overlapping, I may well be watching the National Anthems in preference to the death throes of our game.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CT on October 13, 2015, 08:03:25 PM
Chelsea have been pretty appalling by their standards - they need a whipping boy and I fear that's us.

They'll probably want to hammer someone and say "up yours" to their critics. 4-0 to them.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: usav on October 13, 2015, 08:04:16 PM
We all know that Villa are the team to play if you have a striker that hasn't scored for 16 years, or a manager that hasn't won a game for 7 months etc......there is only one possible outcome.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on October 13, 2015, 08:06:24 PM
Manager under pressure? Fans on your back? Things not going well? Team need 3 points? Maybe you can play the Villa team.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Jameson on October 13, 2015, 08:22:01 PM
Is Costa still suspended?

A defeat but the question of his involvement will determine by how many.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 13, 2015, 08:26:05 PM
4-1 defeat.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on October 13, 2015, 08:29:50 PM
Is Costa still suspended?

A defeat but the question of his involvement will determine by how many.

No, he's back in time for his easy pickings.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: maigrait on October 13, 2015, 08:32:37 PM
Id say a narrow defeat. 2-0 for 85 mins before we sneak one past them to make 2-1.
Id say this is the game that chelsea find a bit of form as we allow them space and time instead of playing the pressing game.
All in all business as usual. Timmy wont get sacked and we'll all be here again dreaming up managers we could get.
This is villa decisions arent made quickly.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Kingthing on October 13, 2015, 08:47:41 PM
Quote
Sat 16 Oct 2015, Brompton Cemetery Storage Shed, 3pm KO

Oct 17th

I can't stand them - from the hijacking of the Harry J Allstars, to the JT banner, to the posh kids acting hard, to the glorifying of the Shed End, to the Gordon Ramsey restaurant near the away end, to the inevitable Villa humiliation.......

I'm not going - meeting some mates for a few in the pub near the ground before kick off, then I'm saving myself £55. So we'll probably win

Don't come near me you prophet of doom, I'm fucking depressed enough as it is.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on October 13, 2015, 08:54:15 PM
By the way. Hats off to the away fans who are going for this. You are better fans than me I have to say. Hope you have a great day out.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on October 13, 2015, 09:11:32 PM
4-0 at HT

FT 5-0 home win.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Kingthing on October 13, 2015, 09:13:11 PM
By the way. Hats off to the away fans who are going for this. You are better fans than me I have to say. Hope you have a great day out.

I always have a great day out....its just ruined by 90 minutes of football.

PS I'm no better fan than you.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: KRS on October 13, 2015, 09:15:27 PM
We'll start off well...we may even score a goal...but then they'll score from a well worked move, slicing our defence apart, followed by a set piece (or vice versa) and the capitulation will see Chelski come out comfortable winners. I doubt I'll even listen to the radio for this one...may be just checking my phone every 10 minutes to see if it still reads Chelsea 0 or not.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ez on October 13, 2015, 09:24:54 PM
Comfortable 3-0 to them. Get ready for plenty of close ups of Sherwood.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on October 13, 2015, 09:27:28 PM
DOOOOOOOOOOM

I suggest Candlemass or My Dying Bride, maybe a bit of early Paradise lost

Mulch ;-)
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Taylor on October 13, 2015, 10:03:32 PM
Can only see one result I'm afraid. Jose won't let this one slip.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on October 13, 2015, 10:22:36 PM
Annihilation - can see us being completely destroyed in this one. They need a win and we are dreadful. Four or five nil Chelsea.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tony scott on October 13, 2015, 10:32:28 PM
When your out of form and can't hit a barn door who you going to call?  3 : 1 Richards
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on October 13, 2015, 10:34:11 PM
I do fear a pants down, bent over the table kind of f¤¤king here.

So all of that said we'll probably sneak a 1-0 win as a warm up for some sort of 5-3-2 / 4-6-0 mash up against Swansea that.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on October 13, 2015, 10:36:18 PM
Chelsea are 1/3 on , we are 15/2 .
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on October 13, 2015, 10:48:59 PM
A good old fashioned 'Chelsea are back' 5-0 home win.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on October 13, 2015, 10:58:34 PM
With Jose back to his modest best shaking tim n Rays hands on 84 mins and disappearing down the tunnel.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LukeJames on October 13, 2015, 11:24:14 PM
We'll get dicked, Tim will play some bizarre formation that will leave us and Chelsea thinking wtf is he trying to do, he'll change the formation at half time by taking Lescott off, we'll be 3-0 down at this point, Chelsea will get their 4th just after half time and Tim will have a post Leicester brain wave, take off a forward and bring a midfielder on to shut up shop and protect what we have, Mourinho will go to shake Tims hand after 78 minutes, Tim will tell him too fuck off, plastic wankers who have endured a nightmare few weeks (they don't deserve that) will be waving their flags in joy, in the post match interview there will be a lot of speaking in the 3rd person. I think that's covered most of it.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 13, 2015, 11:27:40 PM
I wonder if it is possible that the manager who loses of this game loses his job?
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: OCD on October 13, 2015, 11:35:56 PM
Anyone confident of being able to predict Sherwood's team and tactics for the game?
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on October 13, 2015, 11:38:21 PM
I wonder if it is possible that the manager who loses of this game loses his job?
One club would be decisive, the other would dither and procrastinate for weeks.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on October 13, 2015, 11:39:14 PM
Anyone confident of being able to predict Sherwood's team and tactics for the game?


5-0-5 whilst flooding the midfield.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on October 13, 2015, 11:40:28 PM
Anyone confident of being able to predict Sherwood's team and tactics for the game?
Are you allowed to field 2 goalkeepers ?
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on October 13, 2015, 11:41:29 PM
Anyone confident of being able to predict Sherwood's team and tactics for the game?

4-4-hatstand
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on October 13, 2015, 11:43:11 PM
Chelsea are 1/3 on , we are 15/2 .

Marathon Bet are now offering 10/1 against us according to Oddschecker.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on October 13, 2015, 11:53:55 PM
I wonder if it is possible that the manager who loses of this game loses his job?
One club would be decisive, the other would dither and procrastinate for weeks.
I think you'd be surprised.

Chelsea have next to nothing to gain by caning Moanrinho now unless they can get Ancelotti back in before someone else nabs him.

There is no way on earth that they're going to win the league and they've got as much chance of going on the sort of run that would get them back into contention for a CL spot under him as anyone else.

Their problems are he'd reckoned on 12 months more from Terry and at least the same from Ivanovic plus, going on apearances, Matic is still celebrating last season.
2 of those problems can't be addressed by a change of manager.  That's a chequebook out in January to alter that.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on October 14, 2015, 12:53:42 AM
Anyone confident of being able to predict Sherwood's team and tactics for the game?
Are you allowed to field 2 goalkeepers ?
I think he'll go the other way

11-0-0.  No goalkeepers to make us more attacking, but 11 across the back to "make us more solid"

Bacuna-Hutton-Illori-Sanchez-Richards-Okore-Lescott-Clark-Crespo-Richardson-Amavi
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: footyskillz on October 14, 2015, 01:06:07 AM
Wilkins may be able to offer in sight into Chelsea and how they play and what they may do. So all may not be lost as there can be hope as both teams out of form maybe a scrappy 1-0 villa or 0-0
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cheltenhamlion on October 14, 2015, 01:20:10 AM
Illori?  It lives!
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on October 14, 2015, 03:08:28 AM
If Gabby, Westwood and N'Zogbia are all in the starting line-up, start making your plans from around 3:25pm because you will NOT need to wait around till 5:34pm.

Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hillbilly on October 14, 2015, 06:36:21 AM
Goalkeeper
Richards - Not Lescott - Not Lescott - Amavi
Veretout - Sanchez - Gana
Gil - Grealish
Ayew
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: postal on October 14, 2015, 07:42:41 AM
Goalkeeper
Richards - Not Lescott - Not Lescott - Amavi
Veretout - Sanchez - Gana
Gil - Grealish
Ayew

OK team of available players, but there seems to be a gap at the back...  so normal team then  ::)

If the centre mid run and battle, there's a chance.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: martin o`who?? on October 14, 2015, 07:43:58 AM
I`m betting that "The special one" is secretly thinking "Thank God we`re playing the Villa". - basically we`re the go-to club for any manager under pressure, forward who hasn`t scored yet. etc.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on October 14, 2015, 08:48:47 AM
I normally put Villa down for a win on the pre match threads, very occasionally a draw, but never a loss.

Except for this one.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 14, 2015, 08:53:25 AM
I would go with;

Guzan

Amavi, Clark, Crespo, Richards

Veretout, Sanchez, Gana

Traore, Ayew, Grealish

I think he will go with;

Guzan,

Amavi, Lescott, Richards, Crespo

Veretout, Sanchez, Westwood, Gana

Grealish, Gestede

This being a diamond formation in the middle, with Grealish closer to the striker, which I don't think would work. Still, I'm not going to start pouring scorn on something he's not done!

I think we need real pace to punish them at full back, as Ivanovich looks shot. Its critical that we come out with a real tempo and keep them from scoring for as long as possible. You cannot create an atmosphere that works in your favour when you concede in the first couple of minutes like Liverpool.

Chelsea are under huge pressure and there has probably never been a better chance in the past five or six years of going to Stamford Bridge and winning.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: FiveKenMcNaughts on October 14, 2015, 09:03:14 AM
6-1 home win, 5-0 at half time, they take pity.
Club Statement, 1pm Sunday.

Feeling really confident about this one...
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on October 14, 2015, 09:04:39 AM
Team pick

Bunn
Steer - just in case
Lescott
Richardson
Hutton
Bacuna
Gil
Sinclair
Gabby
Gestede
Sherwood
Wilkins
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete on October 14, 2015, 09:05:40 AM
Chelsea are 1/3 on , we are 15/2 .

Marathon Bet are now offering 10/1 against us according to Oddschecker.

10/1 on Betfair too. I'm hanging on, chances are it will drift a bit more.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on October 14, 2015, 09:07:11 AM
I would go with;

Guzan

Amavi, Clark, Crespo, Richards

Veretout, Sanchez, Gana

Traore, Ayew, Grealish

I think he will go with;

Guzan,

Amavi, Lescott, Richards, Crespo

Veretout, Sanchez, Westwood, Gana

Grealish, Gestede

This being a diamond formation in the middle, with Grealish closer to the striker, which I don't think would work. Still, I'm not going to start pouring scorn on something he's not done!

I think we need real pace to punish them at full back, as Ivanovich looks shot. Its critical that we come out with a real tempo and keep them from scoring for as long as possible. You cannot create an atmosphere that works in your favour when you concede in the first couple of minutes like Liverpool.

Chelsea are under huge pressure and there has probably never been a better chance in the past five or six years of going to Stamford Bridge and winning.

Agree with your selection Ads although if grealish is poor in the first half I would get Gil on pronto. Or play both we may as well have a go.Wouldn't be surprised if Libor suddenly re appears.Sherwood is capable of anything.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on October 14, 2015, 09:34:25 AM
Wouldn't be surprised if Libor suddenly re appears.Sherwood is capable of anything.

How about a Zog appearance. Is he eligible to play ?
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: AVH87 on October 14, 2015, 09:42:24 AM
Clark injured and Adama doubtful unfortunately, with Okore still not fit looks like Lescott needs to find some form.

Villa (4-3-2-1)

Guzan

Crespo Richards Lescott Amavi

Gana Sanchez Veretout

Gil Grealish

Gabby
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 14, 2015, 09:55:23 AM
I'd bring Gabby back in then, as I think we need mobility and speed against these.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: AVH87 on October 14, 2015, 09:59:53 AM
I'd bring Gabby back in then, as I think we need mobility and speed against these.

Agreed they've looked leggy at the back with Terry, Cahill and Ivanovic this season. The striker through the middle needs to be pacey, Gabby or maybe a gamble on Ayew up there again.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: levico on October 14, 2015, 10:00:48 AM
I think Sherwood will park the bus ......... but at the wrong end.

0-6/7/8/9

In some ways the bigger the defeat, the better. Why should we have to wait until the Swansea match to get rid of this chancer?
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 14, 2015, 10:06:11 AM
I'd bring Gabby back in then, as I think we need mobility and speed against these.

Agreed they've looked leggy at the back with Terry, Cahill and Ivanovic this season. The striker through the middle needs to be pacey, Gabby or maybe a gamble on Ayew up there again.

I think Ayew deserves a crack up top. He's only going to get better by playing rather than watching. He seems quite spikey in that he doesn't mind giving somebody a kick. I think that physical toughness is definitely needed up there, plus his movement seems to be very good. With him playing off the shoulder of some pretty one paced defenders, with perhaps Grealish feeding balls in and Gabby making the pitch as wide as possible, we may benefit.

As an aside, I am not sure where on for some of the frankly pathetic predictions of 6 to 9 nil have come from. Where has this new found Chelsea confidence arisen? Where has our Sunday League form come from? We may be poor at the moment and we may well ship a few goals, but lets not get carried away.

Those reveling at the prospect of a big defeat being good may want to spare a thought for those of us who paid £50.00 for a ticket and who will be making a 420 mile round trip to see us play.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: AVH87 on October 14, 2015, 10:10:36 AM
Fair play to the 1500 or so hardcore who've shelled out £50-£55 for a ticket. Every year it's a ground I say 'I need to tick that one off', then the pricing gets announced and I think 'ahh, I'll do it next year!'.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Gareth on October 14, 2015, 10:17:12 AM
Id like to think we'd have something up our sleeve, maybe leave Gestede out as we proved that crossing is hardly a forte of this team....Ayew up top with Gabby & Adama behind & run hard at their defence....Westwood left out of squad would be nice, no doubt Gana &/or Sanchez will come back lame and make it impossible to leave him out though.

2-1 Chelsea for me.

Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on October 14, 2015, 10:19:55 AM
I'd bring Gabby back in then, as I think we need mobility and speed against these.

So why would you bring Gabby back then?
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on October 14, 2015, 10:23:24 AM
This is one of those few games in the calendar where Gabby can actually have a real impact. We'll naturally be pressed back at times, and he can provide an out ball and a bit of pace and strength against a slow, high defensive line. Maybe even get in behind them on occasion, provided he sticks to the channels.

I imagine Terry in particular would be more than happy to see Gestede on the scoresheet.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on October 14, 2015, 10:25:49 AM
That's what Gabby should be doing in theory, but in practice he's even less mobile than Gestede because he never f*cking moves - and this week it'll be even worse because he'll be full of birthday cake. No, I think Sinclair and Ayew both provide more pace and movement than Gabby these days, and they can actually (sort of) kick a ball.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on October 14, 2015, 10:39:51 AM
True, but I think Gabby's quite good and spinning his man and when he has a bit of clear grass to run into, he looks a lot more effective.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on October 14, 2015, 10:47:59 AM
Again, in theory, but fair enough. I just wouldn't trust him to actually do any of the things he's meant to be good at doing.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Gareth on October 14, 2015, 11:07:13 AM
Sinclair's lightweight performance against Stoke was so impotent that it succeeded in making me want Gabby back in on Sat.  I'm getting more and more frustrated with the amount of players we have that can't / won't put in a challenge- the old adage that you defend from the front is what I hope they have been working on in the 2wk holiday, getting 3yds from the ball and wafting a leg is not acceptable, they have to put in a challenge and make passing the ball more difficult.  We are too easy to play against because we have so little physicality.

Team of wimps with a losing mentality & a fan base who quite rightly have a level of expectation which is criminally not matched by anyone who owns or is employed by the club....what could possibly go wrong?!?
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: mallo on October 14, 2015, 01:11:12 PM
We might scare them early on with a last spirited fight for Sherwood and 'his' players, but ultimately it will be the kick start Chelsea needed and Costas confidence boost to getting back on the scoresheet. Chelsea to walk away 3-1 and buzzing.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ktvillan on October 14, 2015, 01:23:04 PM
Sadly I suspect we will continue in our role as the ideal team to play when you are in a slump and desperately in need of a morale boosting win (see recent Liverpool game).  4-1 Chelsea with our sole consolation deflecting in off Ivanovic's recently acquired clown shoes from a speculative 84 yard shot by Bacuna.

Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on October 14, 2015, 01:30:06 PM
I'd bring Gabby back in then, as I think we need mobility and speed against these.

Agreed they've looked leggy at the back with Terry, Cahill and Ivanovic this season. The striker through the middle needs to be pacey, Gabby or maybe a gamble on Ayew up there again.

 
Those reveling at the prospect of a big defeat being good may want to spare a thought for those of us who paid £50.00 for a ticket and who will be making a 420 mile round trip to see us play.

This. You have my upmost respect.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tony Erdington on October 14, 2015, 01:48:26 PM
Dont think we will be last on MOTD
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: not3bad on October 14, 2015, 02:05:36 PM
The writing is on the wall for both managers.  A Chelsea win but not a convincing one, which will do neither of them any good.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Jameson on October 14, 2015, 02:07:15 PM
4-1 Chelsea with our sole consolation deflecting in off Ivanovic's recently acquired clown shoes from a speculative 84 yard shot by Bacuna.



That's a ridiculous suggestion. Only because Ivanovic is injured.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tony Erdington on October 14, 2015, 02:08:51 PM
4-1 Chelsea with our sole consolation deflecting in off Ivanovic's recently acquired clown shoes from a speculative 84 yard shot by Bacuna.



That's a ridiculous suggestion. Only because Ivanovic is injured.


LOL
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lobsterboy on October 14, 2015, 02:46:40 PM
Sherwood will no doubt embrace this new attacking philosophy and play 4-2-4 which will see us getting absolutely mullered 4-1

I expect he will go Guzan/Bacuna/Amavi/Richards/Lescott/Westwood/Gueye/Adama/N'Zogbia/Agbonlahor/Gestete
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on October 14, 2015, 02:50:17 PM
Its amazing how many of us think 4-1 will be the final score. Must pop into my local turf accountant and see what odds are available on that score.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: somec on October 14, 2015, 02:57:14 PM
Its amazing how many of us think 4-1 will be the final score. Must pop into my local turf accountant and see what odds are available on that score.

Strangely I dreamt that we lost this 2-1 having lead 1-0 at half time.

Our goalscorer? Gary Cahill was playing for us in my dream and nodded in the opener for us.

I have never had such a specific dream about a scoreline, so maybe I should put on a wager?

I can't bet against us but could still have a punt on Cahill as first scorer!

Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on October 14, 2015, 03:13:47 PM
I am conflicted by wanting something to happen so we change manager (OK a defeat - there I've said it) and to actually win a match - even under TSM2 I never wanted us to lose to cost him his job, I just want the Villa to win! Sometime soon!
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on October 14, 2015, 03:20:57 PM
If we don't win or lose I can see us nicking a point here.
Is Tambling playing ?
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on October 14, 2015, 03:31:23 PM
If we don't win or lose I can see us nicking a point here.
Is Tambling playing ?

Charlie Aitken must be hoping he isn't!!
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on October 14, 2015, 03:51:57 PM
If we don't win or lose I can see us nicking a point here.
Is Tambling playing ?

Charlie Aitken must be hoping he isn't!!

Sherwood will probably put Hateley at left back and play Charlie up front !
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on October 14, 2015, 04:07:45 PM
If we don't win or lose I can see us nicking a point here.
Is Tambling playing ?

Charlie Aitken must be hoping he isn't!!

Sherwood will probably put Hateley at left back and play Charlie up front !

hmmmm  a clever ploy!
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Salsa Party Animal on October 14, 2015, 06:20:05 PM
i think it will be a goal crazy game and I think Chelsea will win 8-5 :(
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clark W Griswold on October 14, 2015, 08:39:15 PM
4-1 Chelsea with us holding it heroically at 1-1 until 75 mins...
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 14, 2015, 08:45:34 PM
In London so going to this one.

When you are down on your luck, players out of form, not getting the rub of the green, media mutterings about the Manager.

Don't worry about a thing, Here comes the Villa, ready made to turn up and breathe confidence back into the team.



They will get more than us, another embarrassing day at the Bridge.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on October 14, 2015, 08:46:01 PM
A 1-2 win. Gestede and Ayew. Mourinho to be rather cross afterwards.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on October 14, 2015, 08:46:37 PM
A 1-2 win. Gestede and Ayew. Mourinho to be rather cross afterwards.

Everyone else to be rather delighted!
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on October 14, 2015, 09:16:56 PM
i think it will be a goal crazy game and I think Chelsea will win 8-5 :(
No I think it could be 8-7. We'll be winning 6-7 as the match goes to injury time. They will equalise after a disputed corner floats over and Terry holds down Guzan whilst Ivanovic punches the ball into the net. It's 7-7 at the end of 7 minutes of added time however ref plays on a further 2 minutes and awards them a penalty when Terry slips and falls in the area and sends off Guzan for deceitful play for being within 5 yards of Terry making him slip. Bunn saves 5 penalty attempts. Retakes ordered each time Bunn moved from a stationary position. After the fifth failed attempt ref gives him the second yellow and Jack Grealish has to go in goal. Jack saves the first attempt by punching the ball out but it hits the Referee and bounces back into the net. Mourinho misses all this as he went to phone his wife at 6-7!

Not that I am bored!
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on October 14, 2015, 09:24:36 PM
I'd bring Gabby back in then, as I think we need mobility and speed against these.

Agreed they've looked leggy at the back with Terry, Cahill and Ivanovic this season. The striker through the middle needs to be pacey, Gabby or maybe a gamble on Ayew up there again.
Yes that would be good as long as you are not expecting Gabby to actually do anything with ball at his feet!
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: greenwichvilla on October 15, 2015, 02:43:41 AM
Mourinho completely losing the plot, seemingly asking to be fired. Losing games left, right and centre so never been a better to play them.

But we're Villa so I'll go with a comfortable 5-1 home win.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: l_mckay on October 15, 2015, 09:25:31 AM
Going to this,hoping we can atleast put up a fight. 2-1 to them
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: simon ward 50 on October 15, 2015, 10:24:32 AM
http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~5069253,00.html

Flashback 2011: Ireland, Petrov and Bent bring joy at the Bridge

Who thought we would be pining for Ireland and Bent?
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tom_Mc9? on October 15, 2015, 11:03:31 AM
Incidentally prior to that game a few H&Vers predicted we'd win and I said they were living in cloud cuckoo land. I feel the same prior to this game, so fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: simon ward 50 on October 15, 2015, 11:39:40 AM
"Sherwood will probably put Hateley at left back and play Charlie up front !"

That would be madness, surely?
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on October 15, 2015, 12:01:32 PM
3-0 Chelsea but come the return fixture Mourinho will be in the Villa dug out.

Either as our manager or because he wants to fight our manager.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on October 15, 2015, 12:04:34 PM
Mourinho completely losing the plot, seemingly asking to be fired. Losing games left, right and centre so never been a better to play them.

But we're Villa so I'll go with a comfortable 5-1 home win.

"We're Aston Villa... We're saving your job"
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on October 15, 2015, 12:40:47 PM
A 1-2 win. Gestede and Ayew. Mourinho to be rather cross afterwards.

Can you tell us which happy pills your psychiatrist is prescribing? There's a few of us that could do with some of whatever you're on.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on October 15, 2015, 12:43:17 PM
i think it will be a goal crazy game and I think Chelsea will win 8-5 :(
No I think it could be 8-7. We'll be winning 6-7 as the match goes to injury time. They will equalise after a disputed corner floats over and Terry holds down Guzan whilst Ivanovic punches the ball into the net. It's 7-7 at the end of 7 minutes of added time however ref plays on a further 2 minutes and awards them a penalty when Terry slips and falls in the Chelsea area and sends off Guzan for deceitful play for being within 75 yards of Terry making him slip. Bunn saves 5 penalty attempts. Retakes ordered each time Bunn moved from a stationary position. After the fifth failed attempt ref gives him the second yellow and Jack Grealish has to go in goal. Jack saves the first attempt by punching the ball out but it hits the Referee and bounces back into the net. Mourinho misses all this as he went to phone his wife at 6-7!

Not that I am bored!

Adjusted to make it more realistic. :)
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on October 15, 2015, 12:51:10 PM
A 1-2 win. Gestede and Ayew. Mourinho to be rather cross afterwards.

Can you tell us which happy pills your psychiatrist is prescribing? There's a few of us that could do with some of whatever you're on.

I'm being optimistic. It makes a welcome change from people on here falling over themselves to find new ways of putting Sherwood and the Club down.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 15, 2015, 01:45:12 PM
A 1-2 win. Gestede and Ayew. Mourinho to be rather cross afterwards.

Can you tell us which happy pills your psychiatrist is prescribing? There's a few of us that could do with some of whatever you're on.

I'm being optimistic. It makes a welcome change from people on here falling over themselves to find new ways of putting Sherwood and the Club down.

There's nothing at all wrong in being optimistic and wanting to give the manager an opportunity to correct the situation. In fact as much as I don't think he will be able to and we need to replace him I hope that I am completely and utterly wrong. That we beat Chelsea and come out of this tailspin a much better club and Sherwood a much better manager. I just don't see it though.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on October 15, 2015, 03:30:03 PM
That's exactly where I am TV.

Unfortunately wishing, hoping, praying or whatever that he's going to turn this around doesn't make it any more probable.

We're on the sort of run Lambert used to embark on from around this point of the season and have people questioning his future.
Sherwood's done it far earlier in the season from a much lower base.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: manic-road on October 15, 2015, 11:04:52 PM
2-0 Home win  :(
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on October 15, 2015, 11:26:34 PM
Same, I would be delighted if Sherwood turns it all around. I don't dislike him, my patience is just gone though. The past few years have seen to that. We just need to stop being relegation battlers and we should be ruthless with managers until that happens. Its not personal its just firing an employee who demonstrably cannot do the job. I hope he does but so far he is not. I do not want us to dither with the axe again. We should act like the big club we are. Managers need to meet our standards or go. Right now Sherwood is not meeting standards. Sorry but its true.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villadelph on October 16, 2015, 02:28:04 AM
We will not get anything from this game. I don't even want to predict a score because I think it will be considerably lopsided.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Vegas on October 16, 2015, 07:29:42 AM
my patience is just gone though. The past few years have seen to that. We just need to stop being relegation battlers and we should be ruthless with managers until that happens. Its not personal its just firing an employee who demonstrably cannot do the job. I hope he does but so far he is not.

Patience gone after 8 games? No organisation I know of would "just fire an employee" after 6 months, when they were pretty successful in the first four of those months.  I would give him more time still.

edit: think we'll go close on Saturday, draw or narrow defeat.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on October 16, 2015, 08:11:45 AM
my patience is just gone though. The past few years have seen to that. We just need to stop being relegation battlers and we should be ruthless with managers until that happens. Its not personal its just firing an employee who demonstrably cannot do the job. I hope he does but so far he is not.

Patience gone after 8 games? No organisation I know of would "just fire an employee" after 6 months, when they were pretty successful in the first four of those months.  I would give him more time still.

edit: think we'll go close on Saturday, draw or narrow defeat.

I think the patience thing stretches back to the end of last season as well when we just scraped safety and got humiliated in the Cup Final. There was an initial burst of energy and application but that seemed to diminish rapidly and has been replaced with lethargy and confusion. I haven't run out of patience I'm plain terrified!
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: McGraths Dry Cleaning on October 16, 2015, 08:53:47 AM
Everyone assumes Chelsea will click in this game and thrash us. Maybe this is the game that we click. If I was Sherwood, the management team and the players I would be thinking what a great opportunity to get our season underway and ram all the criticism back down everyone's throats. 1-0 Villa.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 16, 2015, 08:57:17 AM
Its important that we do not concede an early goal and allow them to settle. We tended to start well under Sherwood last season and come out at a good tempo. We need some more of that here, as if we start to press them and carve out a few early chances we maybe able to create a "oh not a bloody again" feeling in the mind of Chelsea.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on October 16, 2015, 09:04:48 AM
Its important that we do not concede an early goal and allow them to settle. We tended to start well under Sherwood last season and come out at a good tempo. We need some more of that here, as if we start to press them and carve out a few early chances we maybe able to create a "oh not a bloody again" feeling in the mind of Chelsea.

In other words what we should have done at Anfield and didn't.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 16, 2015, 09:22:39 AM
The fast start is what we should be aiming for in every game. The first goal is massive in this league.

Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dr Butler on October 16, 2015, 09:29:42 AM
if Carlsberg did Saturdays...


a Villa win and a Ellis handshake for Roman to help get Moaninho sacked straight after the game....again.... would be nice  :)

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jockey Randall on October 16, 2015, 10:35:22 AM
The fast start is what we should be aiming for in every game. The first goal is massive in this league.



Quite right. Fergie's Yanited always seemed to come out the blocks fast. Especially at home.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: mrfuse on October 16, 2015, 12:47:37 PM
If we had beat teams like WBA, Leicester and Stoke like we should have done, then this would have been a great game to really have a go and dig the knife deeper into Chelsea.

Because we don't want to get embarrassed and have our Moral reduced any further Sherwood will join both McLeish and lambert in resorting to a tactical "let's keep the score down to a maximum of a 3-0 loss".

Which is fine as Sherwood can then in his after match interview explain that all though Chelsea are currently awful they still possess a "World class team" that cost Trillions of pounds compared to our meagre £60M or whatever it is.

in short 3-0 loss  :-[
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 16, 2015, 12:51:30 PM
The fast start is what we should be aiming for in every game. The first goal is massive in this league.



It's the one thing that has moved me away from Sherwood. That he has sent out the side since the start of the season with stopping the opposition playing as his opening tactic. Now there's a place for it. I understood that as an approach against Bournemouth for example given the circumstances. But not every game. We can start games being the aggressor or being at least feeling we are on an equal footing but he has chosen not to. And what is even more frustrating is that we have shown when we do step it up we can look really quite good at times. He either doesn't have confidence in himself or the players and that kind of mentality is a big reason as to why we are where we are.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: mrfuse on October 16, 2015, 12:55:36 PM
The fast start is what we should be aiming for in every game. The first goal is massive in this league.



Quite right. Fergie's Yanited always seemed to come out the blocks fast. Especially at home.

I think it was quoted in one of Roy Keane's books that they went Hell for leather to Score as many as possible in the first 20 minutes.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: russon on October 16, 2015, 01:28:30 PM
We'll lose this one and be bottom by Monday morning.

Have a nice day.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: KRS on October 16, 2015, 02:06:22 PM
Looks like we have a pretty fit squad apart from Gabby, Clark and Okore...and Traore may actually be fit enough to play a part tomorrow. Question marks over Sanchez due to returning late from International duty, but overall we should have a pretty strong team available.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: mr underhill on October 16, 2015, 02:45:51 PM
are they fit though?
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Karl Bridges on October 16, 2015, 02:48:47 PM
This will be the final nail in the coffin......for Jose and sweet revenge for our 8-0 humiliation Chelsea 1-6 Villa
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on October 16, 2015, 02:49:30 PM
are they fit though?

I don't fancy any of them.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on October 16, 2015, 02:56:47 PM
Bit concerning that Traore seems to be injured most of the time .
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: in exile on October 16, 2015, 03:13:06 PM
Bit concerning that Traore seems to be injured most of the time .
He's fit now apparently. Just read it on OS
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: russon on October 16, 2015, 03:18:32 PM
are they fit though?

I don't fancy any of them.
We've had some beauties over the years mind, Sims, Keown, Penrice, gorgeous all of them.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VILLA MOLE on October 16, 2015, 03:29:50 PM
are they fit though?

Are they all fit enough for his pressing game?  he wants them fit enough to play his way but were unable to before the
international break, BUT now they are back after being away with their countries will now be up to the task ?? 
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on October 16, 2015, 04:46:03 PM
Bit concerning that Traore seems to be injured most of the time .
He's fit now apparently. Just read it on OS
Ok good . We need him to start pulling rabbits out of hats .
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: HK Villan on October 16, 2015, 06:41:56 PM
I'm going to ignore the game completely and cast an eye over the results sometime on Monday afternoon.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tim on October 16, 2015, 07:00:49 PM
Previously voted 'Home Win' but the more I think about things... I have a feeling this could be where things all fall into place. I've said that before, but maybe if i keep saying it, things might just happen.
Originally 3-1
Now... 0-1
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on October 16, 2015, 07:20:59 PM
0-1 is now 25/1
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ian. on October 16, 2015, 07:28:12 PM
This international break has indicated that it is very clear most fans are very frustrated with Sherwoods's haphazard approach to picking the team, formation and tactics. Hopefully he'll see we're not happy and send out a positive team with an attacking edge. He might as well go out fighting for a win now. Surely it's his last chance saloon and he'll have a go.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Smirker on October 16, 2015, 08:12:49 PM
Traore to start then hopefully.

I like the description someone posted on here. A strange player who stops still then charges like a bull.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: footyskillz on October 16, 2015, 08:34:25 PM
The fast start is what we should be aiming for in every game. The first goal is massive in this league.



Quite right. Fergie's Yanited always seemed to come out the blocks fast. Especially at home.

Leicester did this a bit this year too blitz the opponents Pearson got some on field stuff right maybe not off field.
I was hoping Sherwood would attack in cup final but wasn't case. Of course I hope and wish for a 1-0 win . A four or more goal defeat Sherwood should be shifted out immediately. If only coz Chelsea haven't remotely looked like tonking anyone in the league this season so its not actually expected and if happens really a damming indictment of Sherwood.

Losing 6-1 and then at home to Burnley and then cup final and now continued lack of progress shows he's not really cut out yet to be top manager.
I read Chris Sutton piece online BBC website backing Sherwood- no surprise there being a team mate. But also I'm concerned that players think a good captain makes a good manager . And that an ex player and captain think there good managers  players like keane, ince and Sherwood even Bruce who I think was a captain haven't showed those on field leadership skills in a managerial capacity
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cheltenhamlion on October 16, 2015, 09:24:51 PM
We'll lose this one and be bottom by Monday morning.

Have a nice day.

I have a horrible thought you are right. And 4 down on goal difference as well.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 16, 2015, 09:29:02 PM
And we'll be looking for a new manager. It's going to be choppy seas for a few days chaps. Everyone grab a vest.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on October 16, 2015, 09:45:38 PM
We'll lose this one and be bottom by Monday morning.

Have a nice day.

I have a horrible thought you are right. And 4 down on goal difference as well.
It's only October though, which is both worrying but also gives hope
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on October 16, 2015, 10:31:16 PM
Sherwoods neck is on the line he's got nothing to lose
A swashbuckling 1-2 Villa
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pooligan on October 16, 2015, 10:59:43 PM
My heart says a hard earned draw, my head tells me a easy home win 4-0
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: b23 on October 16, 2015, 11:27:41 PM
30 goals conceded against Chelsea in the last 8 meetings ?

More of the same tomorrrow probably.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on October 17, 2015, 06:18:06 AM
Fair play to the 1500 or so hardcore who've shelled out £50-£55 for a ticket. Every year it's a ground I say 'I need to tick that one off', then the pricing gets announced and I think 'ahh, I'll do it next year!'.
i think I read somewhere, possibly on here that villa have subsidised the tickets so the most anyone will pay is 47 quid - still a mugging though to watch the inevitable defeat to an out of form team. I hate Chelsea.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: four fornicholl on October 17, 2015, 08:29:29 AM
sky news ---  grealish and traore fit

hopefully they both start then
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on October 17, 2015, 08:42:10 AM
Fair play to the 1500 or so hardcore who've shelled out £50-£55 for a ticket. Every year it's a ground I say 'I need to tick that one off', then the pricing gets announced and I think 'ahh, I'll do it next year!'.
i think I read somewhere, possibly on here that villa have subsidised the tickets so the most anyone will pay is 47 quid - still a mugging though to watch the inevitable defeat to an out of form team. I hate Chelsea.
Just checked my ticket - £55 - with the Villa £5 off, that's a nicely rounded £50...plus booking fee.

But...as I mentioned last season - my mate's daughter is disabled and Chelsea charge her nothing!
Credit where it's due.

Enough.

Today, I hope we fu*k the fu*kers!
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on October 17, 2015, 09:02:16 AM
It feels like we are about to be hit by a mega tsunami . Dreading 3 til 5pm.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Malandro on October 17, 2015, 09:19:19 AM

Jose Mourinho has never lost successive home league games as a manager. He has only suffered seven defeats in 253 league fixtures at home.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: claret and blue blood on October 17, 2015, 09:19:33 AM
No excuses. They are in a bad run themselves, if Sherwood is serious about keeping his job he has to at least get a point and get a performance out of the team.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Malandro on October 17, 2015, 09:20:20 AM
Has he ever faced the orange dot? Is it too early?
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on October 17, 2015, 09:27:29 AM
No excuses. They are in a bad run themselves, if Sherwood is serious about keeping his job he has to at least get a point and get a performance out of the team.
Exactly what we were thinking when we travelled up to Liverpool a few weeks ago.

Just hope we set up to go for it and not sit back and be 1 down after 50 seconds!
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on October 17, 2015, 09:29:41 AM
The league table doesn't lie. So they aren't much better than us, a hard fought 2-2.
lol I love your optimism. I will celebrate like a sailor on leave if your right but I fear the worst from these horrible arrogant bastards. They will see this as an opportunity to take the piss and get back to winning ways in the classless way they are so good at.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: peter w on October 17, 2015, 09:30:00 AM
Have to go 4-5-1 for this with it becoming a 4-3-3

Guzan

Hutton
Richards
Lescott (I think he could sit on Costa and be effective. he won't lose a physical battle and Costa isn't fast)
Amavi

Traore (if fit)
Gana
Veretout
Grealish (could roam as he does)
Ayew

Gestede

Possibly Sinclair for Grealish

I'd throw Ayew in. Just tell him to attack the space down the line and get the ball in the box. I think Gana and Veretout can do the job in the middle but above all else we need to play with a bit of a tempo. But, as Sherwood (ahem) did for the Shit game, keep it tight for 45 minutes and get them jittery and the crowd on their back. 0-0 half-time and then have a look as the 2nd half goes on.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: bob on October 17, 2015, 09:32:25 AM
I wonder what team is going to come out of the Timbola today.

Somebody's got to win the raffle.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Stirchley Villain on October 17, 2015, 09:33:49 AM
We might do okay if Chelsea stand still for 90 minutes.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on October 17, 2015, 09:34:45 AM
We might do okay if Chelsea stand still for 90 minutes.

With their hands over their eyes and legs tied together.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on October 17, 2015, 09:35:16 AM
No excuses. They are in a bad run themselves, if Sherwood is serious about keeping his job he has to at least get a point and get a performance out of the team.

You can't come out with 'no excuses' when we're playing away at Chelsea. Yes, they're on a bad run but they're still a very good side.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on October 17, 2015, 09:45:20 AM
It's going to A brutal few weeks
Chelsea A
Swans H
Spurs A
Ci£y H
Everton A

I can barely see us scoring a goal in those games let alone picking up any points . Could easily be played 13 points 4.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: peter w on October 17, 2015, 09:48:34 AM
I see 8 points there.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on October 17, 2015, 09:56:35 AM
I see 8 points there.
Under sherwood ?
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: peter w on October 17, 2015, 10:04:53 AM
I see 8 points there.
Under sherwood ?

Yes. A good performance today whether we win or not could be the start of seeing the team click and gel as we hope they will. That should lead to 3 points v Swansea. Spurs and Everton are not beyond us and I can see 4 points there. I also think we'll get something out of Man City - especially if Silva and Aguero are out and Delph is in.

It starts with today, though, and I've been waiting for it 'starting' every week for around the last 5 games. If we're 1 down after 3 minutes and 2 down after 11 I'll be calling for him to be sacked in line with just about everyone.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on October 17, 2015, 10:06:59 AM
Like i've already said elsewhere, I don't think overall the perfomances have been that bad anyway. We've just been extremely sloppy.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on October 17, 2015, 10:10:48 AM
Which ever manager loses will probably be gone on monday.

4 0 chelsea

Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on October 17, 2015, 10:13:08 AM
I see 8 points there.
Under sherwood ?

Yes. A good performance today whether we win or not could be the start of seeing the team click and gel as we hope they will. That should lead to 3 points v Swansea. Spurs and Everton are not beyond us and I can see 4 points there. I also think we'll get something out of Man City - especially if Silva and Aguero are out and Delph is in.

It starts with today, though, and I've been waiting for it 'starting' every week for around the last 5 games. If we're 1 down after 3 minutes and 2 down after 11 I'll be calling for him to be sacked in line with just about everyone.
Ok fair enough. I hope you're correct I just cannot see it.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on October 17, 2015, 10:13:36 AM
I see 8 points there.
You have just assumed that we are going to lose one of those 5 games. Pathetic pessimism IMO!
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on October 17, 2015, 10:14:01 AM
Like i've already said elsewhere, I don't think overall the perfomances have been that bad anyway. We've just been extremely sloppy.
Really ? Stoke at home was bloody awful!
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on October 17, 2015, 10:14:47 AM
Like i've already said elsewhere, I don't think overall the perfomances have been that bad anyway. We've just been extremely sloppy.
Really ? Stoke at home was bloody awful!
As was WBA at home and liverpool away to name but 2
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on October 17, 2015, 10:16:34 AM
Like i've already said elsewhere, I don't think overall the perfomances have been that bad anyway. We've just been extremely sloppy.
Really ? Stoke at home was bloody awful!
As was WBA at home and liverpool away to name but 2

I thought Liverpool away was the worst. The scoreline flattered us a bit. Stoke wasn't good but I didn't think we were terrible.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on October 17, 2015, 10:21:15 AM
Like i've already said elsewhere, I don't think overall the perfomances have been that bad anyway. We've just been extremely sloppy.
Really ? Stoke at home was bloody awful!
As was WBA at home and liverpool away to name but 2

I thought Liverpool away was the worst. The scoreline flattered us a bit. Stoke wasn't good but I didn't think we were terrible.
We completely rode our luck against Bournemouth also.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on October 17, 2015, 10:22:08 AM
Like i've already said elsewhere, I don't think overall the perfomances have been that bad anyway. We've just been extremely sloppy.
Really ? Stoke at home was bloody awful!
As was WBA at home and liverpool away to name but 2

I thought Liverpool away was the worst. The scoreline flattered us a bit. Stoke wasn't good but I didn't think we were terrible.
We completely rode our luck against Bournemouth also.

That was always going to be a tough game though and it was.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Malandro on October 17, 2015, 10:26:44 AM
Villa playing and Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle has decided to go to Norfolk.
Damning indictment of the season.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: peter w on October 17, 2015, 10:31:18 AM
Villa playing and Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle has decided to go to Norfolk.
Damning indictment of the season.

The puritans are eating funny shaped turnips again. He's got ecumenical matters at hand.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Malandro on October 17, 2015, 10:43:00 AM
Villa playing and Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle has decided to go to Norfolk.
Damning indictment of the season.

The puritans are eating funny shaped turnips again. He's got ecumenical matters at hand.

Priorities
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: peter w on October 17, 2015, 10:44:58 AM
Villa playing and Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle has decided to go to Norfolk.
Damning indictment of the season.

The puritans are eating funny shaped turnips again. He's got ecumenical matters at hand.

Priorities

Okay. Definitely not the Puritans? or Prussians as auto-correct is desperately trying to tell me.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: four fornicholl on October 17, 2015, 10:55:54 AM
Jordan amavi has made more defensive actions than any other
premier league player this season

what does that mean?

what does it infer?
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on October 17, 2015, 11:02:08 AM
Like i've already said elsewhere, I don't think overall the perfomances have been that bad anyway. We've just been extremely sloppy.
I agree. We've seen some superb attacking play in small doses. But... The back 4 especially Guzan have been as sloppy as Jordan's clacker all too often. That's where we should be concentrating all our efforts.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Marton on October 17, 2015, 11:07:39 AM
What is our plan here?
Must be some attacking formation we never seen.
1-2-4-2-1 maybe? Pull sweeper at halftime for more attack and an 2-4-4 wide double diamond (sure something like that can be set up in Fotball Manager) ?

Set for total mayhem, +5 goals ...epic loss, kickstart Chelski winstreak, save the special one, press conference that put Hollywood to shame and get BR next week...
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: clash city rocker on October 17, 2015, 11:14:19 AM
I expect Sherwood and Wilkins are now on the team bus making sure all the seats have numbers on them ready for the team selection draw on route to the ground.Hope there isn't a number on the drivers seat.!
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on October 17, 2015, 11:15:52 AM
Villa playing and Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle has decided to go to Norfolk.
Damning indictment of the season.

The puritans are eating funny shaped turnips again. He's got ecumenical matters at hand.

Apparently he has taken an Oliver Cromwell look alike to advise him on how to tackle a home made mushroom pie .......
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on October 17, 2015, 11:29:08 AM
I expect Sherwood and Wilkins are now on the team bus making sure all the seats have numbers on them ready for the team selection draw on route to the ground.Hope there isn't a number on the drivers seat.!
I picture Wilkins rotating the tombola with the bus driver drawing the numbers as they crawl along the Kings rd
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: claret and blue blood on October 17, 2015, 11:36:24 AM
No excuses. They are in a bad run themselves, if Sherwood is serious about keeping his job he has to at least get a point and get a performance out of the team.

You can't come out with 'no excuses' when we're playing away at Chelsea. Yes, they're on a bad run but they're still a very good side.
I'll come out with what I like mate, by your logic we will have an excuse for the next 4 games then?
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on October 17, 2015, 11:44:32 AM
No excuses. They are in a bad run themselves, if Sherwood is serious about keeping his job he has to at least get a point and get a performance out of the team.

You can't come out with 'no excuses' when we're playing away at Chelsea. Yes, they're on a bad run but they're still a very good side.
I'll come out with what I like mate, by your logic we will have an excuse for the next 4 games then?

So we've lost 6 out of our last 7 games and you expect us to turn up at Stamford Bridge and turn them over? Ah, ok.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on October 17, 2015, 12:05:46 PM
No excuses. They are in a bad run themselves, if Sherwood is serious about keeping his job he has to at least get a point and get a performance out of the team.

You can't come out with 'no excuses' when we're playing away at Chelsea. Yes, they're on a bad run but they're still a very good side.
I'll come out with what I like mate, by your logic we will have an excuse for the next 4 games then?

So we've lost 6 out of our last 7 games and you expect us to turn up at Stamford Bridge and turn them over? Ah, ok.

Although I see merit in both PoV, other teams have managed Chelsea. That's why they lie 16th. We have a much better side than our manager has so far turned out.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Stinkin_Thinkin on October 17, 2015, 12:08:40 PM
I couldn't even see this set of players putting in a backs to the wall shift for a courageous nil nil-er
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on October 17, 2015, 12:10:30 PM
No excuses. They are in a bad run themselves, if Sherwood is serious about keeping his job he has to at least get a point and get a performance out of the team.

You can't come out with 'no excuses' when we're playing away at Chelsea. Yes, they're on a bad run but they're still a very good side.
I'll come out with what I like mate, by your logic we will have an excuse for the next 4 games then?

So we've lost 6 out of our last 7 games and you expect us to turn up at Stamford Bridge and turn them over? Ah, ok.

Although I see merit in both PoV, other teams have managed Chelsea. That's why they lie 16th. We have a much better side than our manager has so far turned out.

I put us down for a 2-1 win on here earlier in the week because it's possible, but the way we're playing we can hardly demand it.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on October 17, 2015, 12:45:04 PM
Not sure we'll get a result, but I'm hoping for some semblance of organisation and performance that we can build on. 
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ez on October 17, 2015, 12:57:26 PM
No excuses. They are in a bad run themselves, if Sherwood is serious about keeping his job he has to at least get a point and get a performance out of the team.

You can't come out with 'no excuses' when we're playing away at Chelsea. Yes, they're on a bad run but they're still a very good side.
I'll come out with what I like mate, by your logic we will have an excuse for the next 4 games then?

So we've lost 6 out of our last 7 games and you expect us to turn up at Stamford Bridge and turn them over? Ah, ok.

Although I see merit in both PoV, other teams have managed Chelsea. That's why they lie 16th. We have a much better side than our manager has so far turned out.

I put us down for a 2-1 win on here earlier in the week because it's possible, but the way we're playing we can hardly demand it.

We can start expecting improvement can't we?
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on October 17, 2015, 12:59:54 PM
We need to win. If not draw. If not a thrashing may be better than a run of the mill 2-0 loss on this occasion if it means we can move him on.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: OzVilla on October 17, 2015, 01:05:57 PM
Agreed, ideally a win but if we're going to lose let's get a fucking twatting and bring things to head.

The worst possible result would be to lose unluckily 1-0 or something.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ez on October 17, 2015, 01:09:13 PM
We'll huff and puff but create little. Chelsea defenders will just stand their ground until we run out of passes.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villadelph on October 17, 2015, 01:22:12 PM
We'll huff and puff but create little. Chelsea defenders will just stand their ground until we run out of passes.

Well, Ivanovic has always found a way to be a difference maker against us but thankfully this year he and Azpilicueta have been terrible. I really hope Ayew gets involved but I'm not counting in it. I'm expecting a packed midfield with Westwood, Sanchez and Gueye. Wonder who's turn it is on the right back merri-go-round today.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on October 17, 2015, 01:28:44 PM
We'll huff and puff but create little. Chelsea defenders will just stand their ground until we run out of passes.
It would be so typical of us to throw something away in injury time
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 17, 2015, 01:28:49 PM
Defensively they have been terrible. If Sherwood picks an attacking line up and sends the side out to win then we have every chance of coming away with something. We'll know soon enough, because if he picks 5 defenders we can all guess the tactics being employed and the result around 5pm.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: andyh on October 17, 2015, 01:36:22 PM
Chelsea's confidence should be as fragile as us.
If we can unsettle them, even if that means going into the last half hour 0-0, then we 'could' Nick this.
If we can frustrate them, the pressure will build on them and leave some gaps.

That means picking the right team. Setting them up correctly and then reacting to any changes that murinho may make on the fly.



Oh.....I now see the flaw in this
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on October 17, 2015, 01:55:29 PM
I refuse to let Villa spoil this weekend, so I won't be watching. But, should a miracle occur, and we sneak a result (like, a draw or something) from these fuckers, I'll watch it on MOTD. It'll be the first time I've watched it in weeks and weeks.

Chelsea 1,017 Villa 0
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on October 17, 2015, 01:56:22 PM
It's gonna be moider
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: A Northern Soul on October 17, 2015, 02:02:10 PM
Interesting, Richardson for Amavi
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: David_Nab on October 17, 2015, 02:03:25 PM
Richardson for Amavi is as good as handing his notice in
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on October 17, 2015, 02:03:39 PM
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12108814_1169290479765175_8924462114009732200_n.jpg?oh=6c100a54618bfdccf182400181e5d126&oe=56C1146C)
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: A Northern Soul on October 17, 2015, 02:04:58 PM
I assume that's a 442 of sorts?
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on October 17, 2015, 02:05:47 PM
Well, it was nice knowing you, Tim.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: hipkiss92 on October 17, 2015, 02:08:34 PM
With Grealish and Gil, don't think Westwood is required for keeping hold of the ball, need Sanchez in there with that kind of line up.

Didn't realise Richardson was still at the club.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Steve67 on October 17, 2015, 02:15:13 PM
I've just seen the team. No Amavi, Gestede or Sanchez but Westwood and Richardson are playing. Ayew in for Gestede. Traore on the bench. I really don't understand how Sherwood thinks.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Stu on October 17, 2015, 02:44:46 PM
I've just seen the team. No Amavi, Gestede or Sanchez but Westwood and Richardson are playing. Ayew in for Gestede. Traore on the bench. I really don't understand how Sherwood thinks.

Gestede is playing
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ktvillan on October 17, 2015, 02:55:29 PM
"interesting" selection that I suspect will be the equivalent of a suicide note / resignation letter.  Sherwood seems to veer from all out defence to all out attack with nothing in between.   I think he's right in a way to pick a side that will be on the front foot, but how about sending out a balanced team that can do both, with a slight emphasis on one or the other,  that can be tweaked with astute subs.  I can see us getting totally overrun in midfield.  Neither Gil nor Grealish are much cop at tracking back so Westwood and Gana will be very stretched.  On a positive note it's good to see Ayew starting.  Strange one dropping Amavi.
Title: Re: Chelsea v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on October 17, 2015, 05:06:34 PM
Anyone still think Guzan isn't a total fuckin liability?
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