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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on October 03, 2015, 02:03:17 PM
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I'll give this another shot
Guzan, Hutton, Richards, Lescott, Crespo, Amavi, Veretout, Gana, Westwood, Sinclair, Gestede
subs: Bunn, Bacuna, Richardson, Ayew, Sancez, Gil, Grealish
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Three full backs?
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3-5-2 possibly. The undroppable Westwood, remains er... undropped and all the creativity remains on the bench
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Three full backs?
Creeps can play across the back four, so assuming he is a CB today
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Not sure about that. Seems a strange team.
Can someone inform me what position Crespo is? Presumably a midfielder? Defensive? Attacking? Out wide? We signed so many I can't remember where everyone plays.
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That looks shit.
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So five at the back, at home to Stoke?
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Another week another strange selection and formation. This better work.
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Presumably Crespo is a defender then from the way you guys are talking? Even stranger team selection then.
We looked good under TS when we attacked teams, so not sure why he's trying to move away from that?
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What a shite team/formation.
Definite defeat today!
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I'm assuming it's five at the back, no creativity and bloody Westwood starts again. Not impressed.
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A midfield of the Crab, Vertetout and Gueye, I can't see where any kind of chances are going to come from apart from pinpoint Amavi overlaps. With no Grealish we will also get to see again the most shit corner kicks possible.
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It's disappointingly a very conservative approach. We all hope we are wrong but the recent defeats appear to have scared Sherwood into behaving like McLeish or Lambert. I can see a fist pump at the end of this when we finish 0-0.
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Random line up !
If 3 centre halves surely Bacuna a better bet than Hutton ?
Strong bench at least, assume Gabby, Traore and Clark unfit
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How he doesn't start Ayew at home is beyond me. Does he draw the names from a tombola?
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The man's an arse.
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Very very strange line up. I can't see Timmeh lasting long
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It's disappointingly a very conservative approach. We all hope we are wrong but the recent defeats appear to have scared Sherwood into behaving like McLeish or Lambert. I can see a fist pump at the end of this when we finish 0-0.
A run on to the pitch at full time and fist pump towards Lerner... oh wait, he's the other side of the world having a breakdown. Well the least I expect is a Lerner statement commenting on how great the 0-0 was like Southampton the other season.
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Can't quite see what Sherwoods thinking is with that team ? Bet he has confused Hughes as well !
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So 8 matches in to the season after Tim's first pre season as a manager and he hasn't a clue what his best team is, best formation or best tactics. Sounds good.
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What's most disappointing is that he's once again playing to stifle the opponent. Add in that he's gone with the attacking approach that is working and while there is merit to that it is very one dimensional. If Stoke nullify it the football will reveal itself to be turgid. We do have options off the bench but why not start those options? He's a scared man.
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Is this a League Cup match?
Uninspiring line up.
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Tactics: defend, hope Amavi can cross a few to Rudi, just hope.
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This looks like a no score bore today.
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It's obvious to me that Sherwood is shit scared of losing his job. If he had eleven defenders, he'd be playing them all.
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Maybe it's part of a cunning plan to be really shit in the first half and then beat them in the second?
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It's the usual, we've seen it all before too many times now. Managers come in to this job, get overwhelmed by the size and difficulty of it, don't have the experience or nous for it and get scared and try to shut up shop and grind out results. These clowns we keep employing are going to get us relegated. We need experience and personality, this is a huge job, trying to stop a juggernaut crash is no job for beginners, it breaks them.
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Baffled as to how we're exactly going to line up.
Let's just hope it's all part of Timmeh's cunning tactical master plan!
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All I can hope is that we stifle the living shit out of everything in the first half, and then in the second half, bring on 2 powerful and creative players as Stoke are starting to tire.
In reality, I thoroughly expect that not to happen. And for an even stranger change at 70 minutes.
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Ayew on for Crespo and Grealish for Veretout on 65 minutes when we are 2-0 down. That's my prediction.
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He won't sub the crab, he needs someone rolling 5 yard balls backwards to keep things ticking over.
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It's disappointingly a very conservative approach. We all hope we are wrong but the recent defeats appear to have scared Sherwood into behaving like McLeish or Lambert. I can see a fist pump at the end of this when we finish 0-0.
Don't even think it. I can just imagine the tutting and sighs going around the ground on fans hearing that team selection. Tim Sherwood Manager will soon be hearing "You don't know what you're doing" unless we win today.
You're probably right though. 0-0.
Idiotic team selection for a home game.
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The Ghosts of TSM and Lambert simply won't die... :(
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Mental line up
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We do have options off the bench but why not start those options? He's a scared man.
He wants us to play shit in the first half. Tactical bloody genius, I tell ya!
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Gil and Grealish on bench at HOME to STOKE.
You couldn't make it up. Pull the trigger Tom.
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Odd team, but just win Villa
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No Gil, Grealish or Ayew? Madness.
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Got to be the most conservative attempt at doing a Pulis you will see all season. And if we are playing a back 3, why Hutton at wing back?
Or are we playing a 4, and playing Amavi wide left?
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It's pretty funny that because we are so bad at putting together 90 minutes of decent football we've decided to claim the tactic of being deliberately poor for 45 of them.
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Is it worth while and more importantly is it good for my health to watch the first half?
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"We're Aston Villa, we're parking the bus...."
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Got to be the most conservative attempt at doing a Pulis you will see all season. And if we are playing a back 3, why Hutton at wing back?
Or are we playing a 4, and playing Amavi wide left?
I'm expecting to see Amavi wide left.
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Is it worth while and more importantly is it good for my health to watch the first half?
It's either genius or madness, well worth a watch.
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Imagine being excited to watch Villa play. A pipe dream.
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What the actual fuck is that team
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The team selection getting slated on SSN.
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3-5-2.
I have no issues with somebody being closer to Gestede. The worry with 3-5-2 is that if you're not dominating the ball, it's very easy for the opposition to make it a 5-3-2, which would nullify the effect of giving Amavi more attacking licence.
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We lose and there is a possibility of being 4 points adrift tonight. That is a pretty sobering thought.
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What the actual fuck is that team
It's Tim groping in the dark for something to work. Lambert stumbled across something that worked for 12 or so games at the end of his first season, let's hope Tim does the same this one.
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Poor bastards arriving at Villa Park to see that team announcement. Against Stoke FFS.
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Truly fucking pathetic . This chancer needs a P45
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Tic Tac Tim's really into this new found genius plan of his of being as shit as possible first half to surprise people that it's only a cunning plan.
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Is this the defensive version of Lamberts play all the strikers?
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Reset the poll.
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What the fuck is that team?
I thought we were playing Stoke, not Barcelona.
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I don't get it, I'm really struggling to work out the line up?
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Truly shocking line up
No creativity
Westwood un droppable
How many center backs
Watch us win now
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Really hope we don't get pinned into a 5-3-2. Not exactly a confidence inspiring team sheet. Hard to say I'm happy with the chosen eleven, but let's give it a half hour before we get too carried away.
Unfortunately, I went Stoke 3-1.. now looks more likely than yesterday. Damn.
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Every week it's as if he's written the players names on bits of paper and drawn eleven at random.
I genuinely think he's not got a clue.
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I think jack , gil and ayew have looked half decent at times but all on bench.
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What the fuck is that team?
I thought we were playing Stoke, not Barcelona.
In Timmy's mind we are. Stoke have three ex Barcelona players which makes them a major threat. Stoke.
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It will work its bamboozled hughes
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I would understand if Pulis was still charge but the last time I looked they play it on the deck a bit these days....hmmmmmm!
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I'm glad I live in Devon and not tempted to fork out hard earned cash to watches play. What's happend to Tim and his all out attack? He hasn't got the foggiest how to fit any of his new players into a system. I know it's early but it's such a random approach week in week out now.
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Every week it's as if he's written the players names on bits of paper and drawn eleven at random.
I genuinely think he's not got a clue.
Maybe Tim's a fan of the William Burroughs cut-up technique?
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What the fuck is that team?
I thought we were playing Stoke, not Barcelona.
In Timmy's mind we are. Stoke have three ex Barcelona players which makes them a major threat. Stoke.
He kept tabs on all of them when he was at spuds. ::)
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Its more of a negative line up than lamberts.
Why not put bunn up front
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I'm at VP having made the long trip down with my kids who couldn't decide if they were more excited about seeing Grealish, Ayew or Gil. Oh.
I've defended Sherwood on here and I'm still prepared to give benefit of the doubt, but there's no doubt that's a disappointing line up on paper. Hope it's better on grass.
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Bizarre line up, can only think Crespo is in to mark Crouch?.. I fear for Tim if this goes Pete Tong!
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It's like watching a series of Hammer House of Horror films every week.
You dont know what form it will take from one week to the next and the result is at best frightening or at worst horrific.
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I know we debate if we can afford to play both jack and gil but id expect at least one of them in the team.
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I'm at VP having made the long trip down with my kids who couldn't decide if they were more excited about seeing Grealish, Ayew or Gil. Oh.
I've defended Sherwood on here and I'm still prepared to give benefit of the doubt, but there's no doubt that's a disappointing line up on paper. Hope it's better on grass.
hopes you haven't come from vegas to see this
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I thought Tim was a breath of fresh air when he first came in but by golly it hasn't taken long to sink back to the depths of despair when we had Lambert in charge.
Well done Dim!
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Well Live Score has us as a 433 with Crespo up front.
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Well Live Score has us as a 433 with Crespo up front.
That would make me even angrier.
Obviously we have players much more qualified than him.
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I think he has gone:
Brad
Richards Lescott Crespo
Hutton Westwood Amavi
Gueye Vertout
Gestede Sinclair
A 3-3-2-2, if you will.
Either that, or he's gone fucking mad.
Sherwood out - Fat Sam in.
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I'm at VP having made the long trip down with my kids who couldn't decide if they were more excited about seeing Grealish, Ayew or Gil. Oh.
I've defended Sherwood on here and I'm still prepared to give benefit of the doubt, but there's no doubt that's a disappointing line up on paper. Hope it's better on grass.
hopes you haven't come from vegas to see this
Haha! Not direct from there, no
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Well Live Score has us as a 433 with Crespo up front.
That would make me even angrier.
Obviously we have players much more qualified than him.
I guess they think he's the former striker who shared the same name!
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Is Clark injured?
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Is Clark injured?
No, his name just didn't come out the Tombola.
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Is kozak injured?
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It's not good to prejudge and all, but my instinct is that that's the worst line-up I've seen someone come up with, given the options, in a long time. You have two creative players, so what do you do? Bench them. You have underperforming defenders, so what do you do? Play all of them. Someone explain comparative advantage to this fucknut very quickly.
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Is kozak injured?
No one will ever know
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It's not good to prejudge and all, but my instinct is that that's the worst line-up I've seen someone come up with, given the options, in a long time. You have two creative players, so what do you do? Bench them. You have underperforming defenders, so what do you do? Play all of them. Someone explain comparative advantage to this fucknut very quickly.
Thank McGrath gabby isnt up front
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If Amavi is left midfield it might just work. He said.
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Well that looks a very shit team indeed
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I've just realised Lescott has kept his place. He must love the random team generator tombola thing.
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It is all just so random.
None of our recently-shown-to-be-creative players in there, all the unconvincing defenders plus another one shoe-horned in there to make his first start of the season.
All that against Stoke.
The randomness of it all is just bewildering.
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If Amavi is left midfield it might just work. He said.
I reckon that's his 'thinking'. Get it on Gestede's head as often as possible. It could be very dull, but it might, just might, pay off.
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Is kozak injured?
No one will ever know
No pictures of him in the training pics.
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I think jack , gil and ayew have looked half decent at times but all on bench.
To not play one of those at home is pretty grim, if this works against us today, be interesting to see who he blames, bet it ain't himself.
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And this weekend's team selection has been made by lancelot.
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I see one hell of a lot of sideways passes today
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Fk me....he is so random.
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When he gets the team together at the hotel he starts off with the line 'it could be you.'
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Crespo's beard is looking lustrous.
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And this weekend's team selection has been made by lancelot.
Ha ha, very good.
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If Amavi is left midfield it might just work. He said.
I reckon that's his 'thinking'. Get it on Gestede's head as often as possible. It could be very dull, but it might, just might, pay off.
If you're going to go long ball in the Premier League you have to be diamond-solid at the back, because you're going to spend most of the match without the ball. It's not the days of Watford and fun direct football anymore - if you go long you'll just give it away most of the time, and if you're as porous defensively as we are (and will continue to be today, I'd bet) then you're just manufacturing a perfect storm, whereby you have none of the ball and concede lots of chances.
Tim's tactics don't just strike me as wrong, today - they're exactly wrong, almost like he was trying.
Oh well, let's go.
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Ah, you can't go wrong if you do a good huddle.
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We need to bring NRC back as huddle coach.
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it looks like there is a single tactic - amavi to cross for gestede
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I see one hell of a lot of sideways passes today
As soon as the ball gets in to Stokes half the game will be played at walking pace.
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To go from the football we played against QPR last season to this selection in 6 months is almost as impressively bewildering as I can imagine for a manager.
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So glad I haven't gone
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That lineup has the potential to signal very depressing afternoon. Hoping against hope that he has a cunning plan that none of us armchair managers have thought of.
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Is Traore injured?
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Well so far, the mid 3 and wing backs are pressing well as a unit
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Dicing with death already.
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Is Traore injured?
took another knock
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Ah, you can't go wrong if you do a good huddle.
That's the only chance the team can sneak in a quick "the boss is friggin' losing the plot lads"
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The plan must be we will bore them to death
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Horrible defending again.
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Hutton and Amavi to provide the creativity, haha, fuck off.
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Stoke look all together so much more confident than us. They are passing with ease.
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We collectively look like we're just waiting to make a mistake.
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Lescott is awful with the ball at his feet. He's the only buy I wasn't pleased about.
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Stoke look all together so much more confident than us. They are passing with ease.
It's the part of Tim's cunning plan.
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Would it be premature to say they are in control?
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We look like the away team.
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Timmy doing his Ian Curtis impression on the touchline.
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We collectively look like we're just waiting to make a mistake.
We're waiting to go one down. They can stop worrying then and play stress-free.
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That team selection just confirms to me Sherwood doesn't have a clue what his best team is or how he wants his side to play.
With the predictable result that the players don't either.
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Would it be premature to say they are in control?
They look like they know what they're doing.
We look like we're making it up on the spot.
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Would it be premature to say they are in control?
my commentator said we look like a side that will get hammered
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Wow, this is an absolute shambles on the pitch
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Total football
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Well were making stoke look like barcalona
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Is Traore injured?
Yes
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We look a shower so far. If they score earlyish we will get killed 2/3-0
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Sunderland 1 up
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I've heard about 4 versions of Rudy's surname since he joined....Guess-ted, Guess-teddy, Jess-ted and Yes-ted....
Any of them correct?
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Let's not forget, either, that this is Stoke City, all of one place above us in the league.
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Would it be premature to say they are in control?
my commentator said we look like a side that will get hammered
You have your own commentator?
What does your valet reckon?
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I've heard about 4 versions of Rudy's surname since he joined....Guess-ted, Guess-teddy, Jess-ted and Yes-ted....
Any of them correct?
"Gusset-head"
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Is that what we have to look forward to all afternoon, ball up to Gestede to flick on in the hope Sinclair is some where close by?
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I've heard about 4 versions of Rudy's surname since he joined....Guess-ted, Guess-teddy, Jess-ted and Yes-ted....
Any of them correct?
"Gusset-head"
Just-a-head.
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I hate watching this bunch of cloggers, with their stupid Pulis-esque tactics, just hoofing it to the big man.
Stoke look quite good though.
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The midfield look anonymous.
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I've heard about 4 versions of Rudy's surname since he joined....Guess-ted, Guess-teddy, Jess-ted and Yes-ted....
Any of them correct?
"Gusset-head"
Thanks, that's going on the back of the shirt.
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Is that what we have to look forward to all afternoon, ball up to Gestede to flick on in the hope Sinclair is some where close by?
We can always admire Stoke's tiki-taka.
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The midfield look anonymous.
No, really ?
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I've heard about 4 versions of Rudy's surname since he joined....Guess-ted, Guess-teddy, Jess-ted and Yes-ted....
Any of them correct?
"Gusset-head"
Just-a-head.
true
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Is that what we have to look forward to all afternoon, ball up to Gestede to flick on in the hope Sinclair is some where close by?
When the line up was announced you just knew this would be the first, second and third tactic. And if it doesn't work then, try it again. Horrible stuff.
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You have to say, we've got players with good skill and creativity.
Shame none of 'em are on the pitch.
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What on earth does Eastly Westward do?
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Stoke player has one of those awful buns on head
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A lot of our passing is really meaningless.
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What exactly is Hutton going to do when he is 1 on 1 with someone? Hold it up and pass it backwards and they're playing in to the space the wingbacks are leaving.
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Adam goes for it
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erm, i think we might now be bottom of the league
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Fuck, that was close
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And this weekend's team selection has been made by lancelot.
Post of the day so far ;D
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erm, i think we might now be bottom of the league
Not yet
Sitting pretty in 18th at the moment as it stands.
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Scrap that, Newcastle ahead.
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erm, i think we might now be bottom of the league
Not yet
Sitting pretty in 18th at the moment as it stands.
Toon winning
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What's going on with the ball? It looks like Spiderman's inflamed testicle.
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Mike is right:
Mike: Another good start by 'insert opposition team' at Villa Park.
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What an effort from Austin. Sunderland and Newcastle both winning, and we're dire again.
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Westwood's game:
*lay off easy ten yard pass*
*jog more or less on the spot, don't move much, look mercurial*
*repeat*
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Fox you've Ben had fuck nugget.
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The commentator on my stream is pronouncing Gestede like my kid would have said it when he was 3.
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erm, i think we might now be bottom of the league
Not yet
Sitting pretty in 18th at the moment as it stands.
Toon winning
19th (above Sunderland)
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HA HA HA, Rudys through ball....WHACK!
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Westwood's game:
*lay off easy ten yard pass*
*jog more or less on the spot, don't move much, look mercurial*
*repeat*
The midfield 3 were all stood within 5 yards of each other just now, with 8 Stoke players between them and Gestede/Sinclair. This is utterly, utterly, utterly shit.
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Westwood's game:
*lay off easy ten yard pass*
*jog more or less on the spot, don't move much, look mercurial*
*repeat*
The midfield 3 were all stood within 5 yards of each other just now, with 8 Stoke players between them and Gestede/Sinclair. This is utterly, utterly, utterly shit.
Well to be fair, it's important they keep it tight, because they've only got FIVE defenders behind them.
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It's probably been said, but surely Bacuna is ideal for right wing-back, so why play Hutton?
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Not much quality to this game. If there's a goal it's likely to be a defensive mistake.
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Took 15 minutes but we're starting to find our feet going forward.
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Alan fucking Hutton, bless him, is looking out most likely creator again.
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It is a disgrace what he is doing sick of trying to stay positive what is that for a team
I want him to tell us what his tactics are
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I think he is using the same tactic as he did for the rags game.
Be fkn awful for 45 minutes on purpsose and then bring our "a" game into the second half.
It worked before....
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Can someone give me a link to live commentary (just audio not video) please
thanks
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I'd much rather see somebody like Adam in our midfield than that waste of space Westwood.
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Oh fuck off Sunderland
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Took 15 minutes but we're starting to find our feet going forward.
You think
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25 mins no attempts at goal
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It looks like the idea of the Central 3 might be to allow Hutton and Amavi to go further forward, while leaving defence covered? I don't quite understand it yet - we are showing signs of promise. But we are also showing signs that we look like relegation fodder too.
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Alan fucking Hutton, bless him, is looking out most likely creator again.
Legging full pelt up the wing, like a car thief being chased by an invisible copper.
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Westwood's game:
*lay off easy ten yard pass*
*jog more or less on the spot, don't move much, look mercurial*
*repeat*
The midfield 3 were all stood within 5 yards of each other just now, with 8 Stoke players between them and Gestede/Sinclair. This is utterly, utterly, utterly shit.
Well to be fair, it's important they keep it tight, because they've only got FIVE defenders behind them.
I think Westwood is doing alright. I think because he's a short/sideways passer that the 3-5-2 does him well. He's been tidy and is willing to help the cb's.
I need to see something in the final third. No magic.
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Gana is an abysmal player. Can't pass the ball to save his life.
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That pass. Chunted to nothing, like he'd given up. No options, no thought, no precision, just swinging the leg and hoping for something other than the worst.This is absolutely horrible.
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WAHEY!
Floaty corner time!
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We all love a floaty one!
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Gana is an abysmal player. Can't pass the ball to save his life.
I think he and Amavi, along with the early signs from Veretout, are pretty much our brightest sparks to be honest. Not too much wrong with plenty of the players...
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The floaty corners make giving away a freekick more likely, I think, because the players have to climb and generate power themselves, getting themselves into tussles with defenders in which referees will decide give against the attacking team.
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Talking of floaty ones, remind me to take a potato masher to the bathroom next time I visit.
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Well safe to say the team selection was not a tactical masterstroke from the genius in the gillet, and was as shit as we all thought it would be.
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We look like a time who has left its most dangerous and creative players on the bench.
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He floats the ball in,
He floats the ball in...
Ashley Westwood, he floats the ball in.
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We're not very good...
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We look like one of those relegation sides that start chopping and changing weird tactics and formations that everyone else finds baffling but funny at the same time, then sack the manager and bring in someone else who you know will be shit. I just don't see what Tim thinks is going to happen with this side playing this way.
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you have to admit, at times we're a joy to watch
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Gana is an abysmal player. Can't pass the ball to save his life.
I think he and Amavi, along with the early signs from Veretout, are pretty much our brightest sparks to be honest. Not too much wrong with plenty of the players...
I'd go along with your comment .
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I don't think it's THAT bad, jeez. Totally new formation, we can win crap games like this.
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Gana is an abysmal player. Can't pass the ball to save his life.
He was pretty good all round before he done his hammy.
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Scott Sinclair is completely useless.
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YAWN
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Sinclair whats happened to him
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So our 3 most creative players are not on that grass. Mmm great.
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I will say though Idrissa doesn't look interested, just walking about after his sloppy pass. Hope he's not one of those sulkers like Yaya
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Other scores stay the same this becomes a must win.
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Whereas it's like our manager has been on the grass with that team selection!
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Adama gets injured pretty easily, how comes Westwood doesnt
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Other scores stay the same this becomes a must win.
DON'T SAY THAT
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Whereas it's like our manager has been on the grass with that team selection!
Unlike the ball whwnever we get it.
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This. Is. Horrific.
Again.
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Who is 'Zestdede'?
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25 mins no attempts at goal
There's no pleasing some people.
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Fuck thank fuck
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Who is 'Zestdede'?
i don't know but sign him up now because he can only improve our squad
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Phew.
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Got lucky there. Must a good foot onside.
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Looks good goal
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Onside.
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Hutton was a prat
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That looked onside to me.
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Level, no question.
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Jeez we got away with one there. This is the problem with Hutton being out only attacking outlet...it leaves him exposed defensively over and over.
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There's the warning.
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We're having our tits ridden.
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Let off, definitely onside. For fuck's sake Sherwood, surely you can see this isn't good enough you chump.
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We are so shit
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How long has our midfield been junk for......5 years now?
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We are shocking.
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Got away with one that was a goal. It feels like its only delaying the inevitable though.
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Hutton was a prat
we are getting murdered by that stoke guy who keeps losing hutton
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If only we had 11 richards
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I think Anautovic is a bloody good player you know. Every time I see him he causes problems.
We are on the other hand completely rubbish. No one near Sinclair on about 4 occasions this half, and he is our only out ball.
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Vertout, the French Westwood?
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If only we had 11 richards
Quality isint he.
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Sinclair constantly keeps turning back on himself....every game.
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Sinclair is fucking wank, he hasn't got past a player all game.
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If only we had 11 richards
He is head and shoulders better than the rest isn't he.
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The midfield 3 are all so close together they might as well be one player.
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How are we supposed to create anything with such a defensive formation and nine defensive players on the pitch?
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Is this any better than it was under Lambert?
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Hutton was a prat
we are getting murdered by that stoke guy who keeps losing hutton
Murdered by a guy who a has bun on his head
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Very good run from Veretout there.
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That is a penalty.
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If only we had 11 richards
Shakes his first defender with pace and plays a winger into space?!
Wtf. Not my club.
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Relying on the BBC website here. Could not believe that team. And 38 mins and not one shot. Is he trying to get sacked?
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That's better Veretout
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If only we had 11 richards
Impetuous, stupid, sometimes able to account for his own lack of positioning with pace, unable to pass, etc? Sorry, but I just don't rate him much.
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Great run by Veretout. That's a foul though surely. Doesn't touch the ball.
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We've had a shot!
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Relying on the BBC website here. Could not believe that team. And 38 mins and not one shot. Is he trying to get sacked?
Don't beleive the BBC, it's really good stuff here.
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Stream down. Thank fuck
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We are a fucking dreadful football team. Week in week out crap. I despair
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Cameron took his legs! It was a penalty.
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We're a random mess of players and tactics.
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If only we had 11 richards
Impetuous, stupid, sometimes able to account for his own lack of positioning with pace, unable to pass, etc? Sorry, but I just don't rate him much.
I think hes look decent today , already saved us with that block
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It's been shit since Barry left.
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This is fucking solid. No shots on goal 40 min in. Ace. We are winning the free kick championship with 6 vs 5. Take that Stoke!
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Cameron took his legs! It was a penalty.
Thought the same fuck knows how they're saying it was great defending.
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We look like we've just been sent out and told "do what you can".
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Newcastle pegged back to 1-1
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It's been shit since Barry left.
Have you tried a dating site?
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Ci£y level
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Veretout should be playing slightly advanced of Gana and Westy. Let them sit and mop up, tick play over, and have Veretout linking with the strikers.
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We look like we've just been sent out and told "do what you can".
It is utterly and shockingly desperate.
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Man City pull one back
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A sub at half time or are we playing to conserve the point we came for?
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Hitton takes two out
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The game is so boring now, the commentator is going round the crowd picking people out. "There's big Nev in the Holte End, looking much better now after his op."
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It's crap. 3 different managers producing the same crap.
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I do think Veretout will be a very, very good player in time.
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A sub at half time or are we playing to conserve the point we came for?
Maybe we can take a striker off and get Clark on
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It's crap. 3 different managers producing the same crap.
We do need to stop appointing crap managers.
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And tracking midfield runners... Veretout should hang his head
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Veretout is very good. I wish we knew how to use him.
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Veretout growing in confidence as the game is going by.
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I think I might boo at half time.
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I'm really sure that in Gueye and Veretout we have the making of a really good midfield, they both look lie they have the potential to be excellent. Just need to be utilised in clear roles, I think.
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Someone give the ref a fucking shirt. He obviously wants to play.
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Veretout is very good. I wish we knew how to use him.
Several of our players are more than useful.
The problem is the fecking idiot manager who is clueless as to what to do with them.
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I do think Veretout will be a very, very good player in time.
Lovely feet and Balance .
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How sad that 7 games have gone and I'm celebrating City equalising rather than anything at all positive accomplished by the team I support.
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Veretout and Gana looking a bit more like footballers. Shame they've been sent out without any, you know, plan.
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We won't win this game like this. We need to change something. I'd start with the manager.
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booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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West Ham get one back
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I do think Veretout will be a very, very good player in time.
We have good players in the squad
Its just the line ups,tatics , formations and subs.
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This has been like watching a Siberian peasant drown a litter of puppies one by one because all he has to feed his family is half a barrel of pickled stones and a bit of brown snow.
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Season after season, week after week, it's like having your testicles repetitively stamped on for 90 minutes.
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If only we had 11 richards
Impetuous, stupid, sometimes able to account for his own lack of positioning with pace, unable to pass, etc? Sorry, but I just don't rate him much.
I think hes look decent today , already saved us with that block
He's been our best attacking treat, I'll give him that.
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Booooooooo
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Place your bets nothing changes at half time
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Veretout is very good. I wish we knew how to use him.
Several of our players are more than useful.
The problem is the fecking idiot manager who is clueless as to what to do with them.
Got the brain cells of a fucking knat. Totally useless. 3 at the back is fine, give Richards the chance to step out and Lescott looks better in it, but Grealish for Westwood and Bacuna for Hutton are musts for it to have any chance.
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Season after season, week after week, it's like having your testicles repetitively stamped on for 90 minutes.
I don't know mate..
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Boooooooooo!
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Season after season, week after week, it's like having your testicles repetitively stamped on for 90 minutes.
It's Orwell's boot stamping on a human face, forever.
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This has been like watching a Siberian peasant drown a litter of puppies one by one because all he has to feed his family is half a barrel of pickled stones and a bit of brown snow.
fuck are you peeping through my window? Thats what I've got on
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Booooooooo
Boo? Are you joking? I'm celebrating. Tim's tactics of playing shit in the first half seem to be working. My only fear is Hughes shares the same tactics.
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Mission complete. 45 minutes of shit, now we are ready to hit, it's worked against Bournemouth and the Rags, it will work again. The genius is at work.
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it got marginally better and they seemed to understand better what role they're meant to be playing
pieters is slow and shit and it needs someone other than hutton to go at him
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Westwood and Sinclair off for Ayew and Gil or Grealish. Sadly won't happen...
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Take a defender off at ht Sherwood for love of god.
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What's going on then?
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Sounds utter shit again, big surprise there.
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Best part of that half was when it almost kicked off in the north.
Nu-Stoke are as shit as the old Stoke. We are diabolical to boot. It's cold too.
Get Hutton and Westwood off. Richards into full back, Sanchez into midfield and Grealish wide.
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We did get better as the half went on there, in my opinion, although it's not exactly classic stuff. It's probably a formation that we could use given a bit of practice. Just not against Stoke, at home, when they're in pretty poor form, and we need a win.
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Westwood and Sinclair off for Ayew and Gil or Grealish. Sadly won't happen...
Gestede off too. Nothing against him per se, but he brings out the absolute worst in us.
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Place your bets nothing changes at half time
Like against Blose?
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We're halfway to a point..
We're Aston Villa we're halfway to a point. ....
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Westwood and Sinclair off for Ayew and Gil or Grealish. Sadly won't happen...
Gestede off too. Nothing against him per se, but he brings out the absolute worst in us.
3 goals in last 2 games? Not quite the worst.
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Tim's starting to look tiny
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Any views on the attendance
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This has been like watching a Siberian peasant drown a litter of puppies one by one because all he has to feed his family is half a barrel of pickled stones and a bit of brown snow.
fuck are you peeping through my window? Thats what I've got on
Eastenders is such a drag these days.
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What's going on then?
The same thing that's happened for the last 4/5 years.
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Westwood and Sinclair off for Ayew and Gil or Grealish. Sadly won't happen...
Gestede off too. Nothing against him per se, but he brings out the absolute worst in us.
3 goals in last 2 games? Not quite the worst.
Blues are Blues, and Liverpool's defending was bad for his first. His second was good, I grant, but he's more hindrance than help in my opinion.
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can we declare at 0-0?
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Westwood and Sinclair off for Ayew and Gil or Grealish. Sadly won't happen...
Gestede off too. Nothing against him per se, but he brings out the absolute worst in us.
3 goals in last 2 games? Not quite the worst.
Blues are Blues, and Liverpool's defending was bad for his first. His second was good, I grant, but he's more hindrance than help in my opinion.
He's ace in the air, in the box (although he still manages to not win many aerial duels), but he's otherwise absolutely useless.
We really can't afford to be fielding a player who offers so little else. Either we take him off or we spend 45 minutes launching the ball at him.
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Any views on the attendance
Well from my seat looking around we may make it to other side of 30k.
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Half-time is cringeworthy.
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Good job for us Stoke are shit. Good job for Stoke we're shit.
I've ended up in the Upper North today. Haven't been up here for about 15 years. Plus side, we've never lost when I've been up here. Admittedly this is only about the 5th time I've been up here.
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Bring back bongo cam!
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Stoke fans have managed to find the entrance to J15 and have brought more than their usual 1000 which will help the attendance, but it looks sub-30k.
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I reckon revert to 4 at the back by taking off Lescott and also Sinclair bring on both Gil and Grealish. That will give Stoke something to worry about.
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Utterly shit as expected.
No positives from that half at all
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Any changes from McSherbert?
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What's going on then?
Two crap teams in an end to end game but without anything to get excited about. We've had a few throw-ins, even a corner and Crespo is sporting an extremely bushy beard. Stoke had a goal disallowed because the scorer has a really twattish bun on his head.
Stoke blame their shiteness on injuries to key players, we're blaming the ridiculous team selection. Only positive is our bench is ace.
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World class sporting performances at Villa Park this week. Then Villa and Stoke turn up and it's back to normal.
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Come on jack
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Formation is wrong for me. We're creating very little
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Grealish on for Lescott
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Grealish for Lescott
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I like Amavi but he seems to have gone off the boil lately. Not taking players on so much and very few crosses at all. I like all our French players but they are being held back by clueless tactics and poor players. Every time Hutton bombs down the wing all I see are 5 stoke shirts running back and 3 fucking claret and blue mannequins... On the halfway line.
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Grealish for Lescott....probably in the same position too.
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Well, he's done the absolutely fucking obvious, but let's hope it works. This might be a team if unfucked around with.
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C'mon tactics!!!
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Looks like we've switched to a narrow diamond in midfield. Probably a decent idea.
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I like Amavi but he seems to have gone off the boil lately. Not taking players on so much and very few crosses at all. I like all our French players but they are being held back by clueless tactics and poor players. Every time Hutton bombs down the wing all I see are 5 stoke shirts running back and 3 fucking claret and blue mannequins... On the halfway line.
It's like any time we get good players that do something different or special, given them a month or two at Bodymoor and they look like lower league cloggers. It happens too often to be coincidence.
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Better
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I'm unwittingly breaking the world record for going "tut" followed by a "for fuck's sake!" Just tore through the 2 million barrier.
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I wish this ****** would stop with this "Zestede" bullshit.
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This has been our best five minutes, I think!
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Shit corner
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And then we have a Westwood corner to kill of any slight hint of positivity.
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Westwood cannot be our best corner taker! Surely! That's awful
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How many more times are we going to persist with Westwood taking a corner.
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Nearly awful mistake to let them in
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Damn your eyes westwood
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Man City-Newcastle 3-1
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Referee doesn't wanna give us anything.
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We're as flat as a witch's tit caught in a mangle after an accident at a steamroller convention.
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Gestede just stands in a pocket of space pointing to his feet when the midfielders are coming forward. Get a move on mate, your feet are awful.
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It's been said lots of times, but, why do we do the same corner all the time. Especially when they don't achieve much? Why don't we mix it around a bit?
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Those fucking corners. Jesus Christ.
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Fuck.
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Shit
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Wtf
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Oh for fucks sake.
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It's been said lots of times, but, why do we do the same corner all the time. Especially when they don't achieve much? Why don't we mix it around a bit?
Yeah we could get all fancy and let someone else take one!
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Jesus. Every week.
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There you go.
Absolute fucking shit yet again.
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Fuck right off.
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fuck
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Fuck off
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Could have driven a fleet of buses through our defence then.
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Arnautovic stood there with about 30 yards of empty space either side of him.
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Close from Villa.
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great defending lads
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Please fire Sherwood. FFS. Please end this misery
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Pathetic.
Amavi at fault, gave Crespo no choice but to come, which left their player free.
Poor.
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Crespo at fault.
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Oh my God. That is just absolutely awful defending. Completely, utterly awful.
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Why the fuck has Clark been dropped?
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Game over
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How did he miss?!?!?!
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Sitter missed
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Don't think we'll score after that..
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Richards :(
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That's that then. Relegation looks an absolute certainty to me. I barely register any surprise when we go behind now
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Crespo and Richards going AWOL there.
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Had to score
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Jesus how big was that gap
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Will this nightmare ever end?......
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Crespo at fault.
Amavi left him in the shit.
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We are struggling against some really poor sides lately.
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SHITWOOD.
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We're going down, we're going down, we're Aston Villa, we're going down.
The bloke is a clown, that bloke is a clown, that shit Cockney chancer, that bloke is a clown.
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Ayew should have started .sinclair has been shit for a while
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Yes, this is the year.
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We are struggling against some really poor sides lately.
what does that say about us?
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Fuck off Westwood with your shit corners!
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SHITWOOD.
SHITWANK
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He's a bigger clown than Lambert
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I don't normally have any of that "we're doomed" in October stuff, but sorry, this shambles has got relegation written all over it.
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I honestly believe after seeing this today, we're going down. It's pathetic.
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SHITWOOD.
SHITWANK
TIMSHITWOOD
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If we were Stoke now, this is where we'd concede.
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I don't normally have any of that "we're doomed" in October stuff, but sorry, this shambles has got relegation written all over it.
Same, but you have to think we've had about as easy a run of games as you're likely to get in the Premier League. We don't seem to be getting it right anywhere.
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The BBC had 54' corner Villa, 55' goal Stoke. That should never ever fucking happen. Set piece is set piece because you are all set up in position.
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I believe that Sherwood and Maclaren will be jobless by Monday. Although by Tuesday I wouldn't be surprised to see Schteve employed by RL.
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Free kick outside box
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Write the obituary right now - clueless. Never should have been appointed. Total and utter shit!
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So we start to play when we go 1-0 down. Makes sense.
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Sherwood will be off if we remain in the bottom three at the end of October. Fox will have to get rid of him.
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I believe that Sherwood and Maclaren will be jobless by Monday. Although by Tuesday I wouldn't be surprised to see Schteve employed by RL.
You might add Dick to that list as 2-2 now on weirside
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We have no pace.
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This football illiterate has to go.
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City have six, that's mclaren gone
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I thought jacks hair was bad, my lord butland.
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FLOATYWASTO-CORNER
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Who'd take the draw now?
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Can Grealish really not put a better corner in than Westwood?
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Whats with the shit corners
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Westwood to send one West-ward. Or Way ward
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Sherwood will be off if we remain in the bottom three at the end of October. Fox will have to get rid of him.
Needs to go this evening
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Sherwood do your job
Get him off the corners
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I am sick of Villa being shit. Sherwood is clearly clueless and just experimenting. No method, no pattern, no idea. Get Sam Allardyce so at least we win because it cannot be worse to watch than the last 5 seasons.
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Can Grealish really not put a better corner in than Westwood?
When he has taken one its been decent.
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I actually think amavi would be good at them
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Can Grealish really not put a better corner in than Westwood?
I'd back Stephen Hawking to put a better corner in than Westwood.
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I am sick of Villa being shit. Sherwood is clearly clueless and just experimenting. No method, no pattern, no idea. Get Sam Allardyce so at least we win because it cannot be worse to watch than the last 5 seasons.
Agreed.
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Reset the poll methinks! Shambles. Totally and utterly ridiculous. This needs to change.
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Bad luck rudy
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Fox just put your hand up, Tim's talked his way into your head, it's probably the only thing he's good at, there is no shame for falling for it but there is shame in keeping him in the job.
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I am sick of Villa being shit. Sherwood is clearly clueless and just experimenting. No method, no pattern, no idea. Get Sam Allardyce so at least we win because it cannot be worse to watch than the last 5 seasons.
Im sick of it as well but Allardyce isint the answer.
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We had a shot!
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Whats with the shit corners
Obviously the coaches are as crap as TS
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Can Grealish really not put a better corner in than Westwood?
I'd back Stephen Hawking to put a better corner in than Westwood.
Grealish takes good ones. Must be injured. Or is that Tim's brain?
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Tim's brain is injured?
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Amavi's had a shocker today.
But in all fairness, who's played well?
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I get the feeling it's another game we could play all night and not score.
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Are we sure this is actually Tim Sherwood and not Bradley Walsh? I think we need a DNA test.
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Gil on please. Played well against Leicester, haven't seen him since. Why?
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We had a shot!
Ooh you hope-raiser you!
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I wouldn't be adverse to fox and Sherwood in a joint sacking
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Tim's brain is injured?
Well that's what I (half) jokingly meant.
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Gil on please. Played well against Leicester, haven't seen him since. Why?
Rhetorical question?
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Tim's brain is injured?
He's got a brain???
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Looks like we are never going to win a game
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time to bring in Ronnie Pickering
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I am sick of Villa being shit. Sherwood is clearly clueless and just experimenting. No method, no pattern, no idea. Get Sam Allardyce so at least we win because it cannot be worse to watch than the last 5 seasons.
Im sick of it as well but Allardyce isint the answer.
Why? Because his football isn't great? Fucking wow. I've been saying keep sherwood but he has lost me today. I would happily take playing shit and winning. Fat Sam for me as well
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Gil on please. Played well against Leicester, haven't seen him since. Why?
Rhetorical question?
I think so?
I think so.
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Gil on please. Played well against Leicester, haven't seen him since. Why?
Rhetorical question?
Why ask?
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A three-man central defence in the first half, a two-man central defence in the second...obviously that's going to cause confusion, especially when the centre-half you leave on is the inexperienced new boy.
I reckon Sherwood's got FIFA on in the dressing room, and is clicking through all the formations on the tactics screen.
Next Saturday it'll be 3-4-3.
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Tim Sherwood = TSM3 ... The Shite Manager
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I am sick of Villa being shit. Sherwood is clearly clueless and just experimenting. No method, no pattern, no idea. Get Sam Allardyce so at least we win because it cannot be worse to watch than the last 5 seasons.
Im sick of it as well but Allardyce isint the answer.
Why? Because his football isn't great? Fucking wow. I've been saying keep sherwood but he has lost me today. I would happily take playing shit and winning. Fat Sam for me as well
Ask yourself why you watch football? Then conclude whether you want Fat ****** Sam or not.
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Because our manger is a clueless ******? Our best player against Leicester and he took him off... I hate the bloke. At least Lambert and McLeish were humble, this guy is an arrogant cockney wanker who I detested as a player.
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Well here's another tactic that isn't working.
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Gil for Westwood
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73 minutes too late, Sherwood, you useless ******.
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Shame. I wish he'd taken Gestede off, so I don't have to listen to this tw*t of a commentator struggling to say his name like someone who's had a stroke.
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Stoke are pretty rank too.
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Much ironic cheering.
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Well here's another tactic that isn't working.
Maybe the tactic is to play shit in both halves and lull next weeks opposition into a false sense of security
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Rolling the desperation dice. Too late Tim, this is lost mate.
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Scored at leicester
Then taken off
Never to play again until now
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Never been a fan of Sherwood but if his useless managerial skills result in him being sacked and replaced by fucking Allardyce he'll be up there with O'Leary as far as I'm concerned.
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Gil, Grealish and Ayew finally on. Too late, Timothy.
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Gill for Westwood what's the chances we don't get a corner before the end of the game.
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Sherwood is not a premier league manager. Neither is Lambert, Neither is McLeish. I just wish they didn't all have to come to us to find out.
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Gil for Westwood
Too late, Stoke will pack their defence and we don't have a cutting edge.
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Not our day
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How was that not a penalty?
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time to bring in Ronnie Pickering
Who's he?
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Micah is the only one who shows heart
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Hutton's been good.
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Not our day
or month. or year. or decade....
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time to bring in Ronnie Pickering
Who's he?
Pickering...Ronnie Pickering....
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So Sherwood
Answer me
Why didnt you start with this team
Like most the fans wanted
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time to bring in Ronnie Pickering
Who's he?
It's me! :-)
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I reckon Sherwood's got FIFA on in the dressing room, and is clicking through all the formations on the tactics screen.
Next Saturday it'll be 3-4-3.
To reference another game, this season is like a Football Manager game gone badly wrong. Buy a bunch of players no one's heard of that your scouts recommend, start the season with a set plan, then results get worse and worse and you still don't know your strongest team or even formation so you change it each week hoping something works somehow.
TS has lost confidence in himself. And his self-confidence was the one major thing he had going for him.
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A proper corner now?
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At least Lambert waited until January before he dropped us into the bottom 3. This guy has been figured out. Today's team and play only suggests worse times ahead.
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The thing is, some of our players - quite a few of them - are actually pretty good.
The problem is the bullshitter of a manager.
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At least Lambert waited until January before he dropped us into the bottom 3. This guy has been figured out. Today's team and play only suggests worse times ahead.
I didn't see that team selection coming. I really don't understand it at all.
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We could have won starting with this team
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All stoke are doing is standing they're ground.
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This team, something like what we all wanted from the start, has been given fifteen minutes to rescue Sherwood from yet another defeat.
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Jesus. It's like watching a different team
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That team selection had McLeish written all over it.
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So after Chelsea it will be 1 point from 24.
Risso might be right. It might be time for Allardyce.
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Not our day
or month. or year. or decade....
Or Era, as the BBC told us recently.
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Jesus. It's like watching a different team
One capable of playing football?
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I dont get it.
Gil, at Leicester, is excellent and scores an absolute belter of a goal. He then disappears for weeks, only to turn up today, too late.
Ayew comes on against Small Heath, is excellent, disappears, resurfaces today, too late.
Does anyone doubt these two will now disappear again and we'll start with Sanchez and Westwood next week?
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Haven't seen Wilkins once.
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Sherwood is not a premier league manager. Neither is Lambert, Neither is McLeish. I just wish they didn't all have to come to us to find out.
You've got it in one. One gamble too many and we are down unless it is sorted very very quickly
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Boy oh boy we miss a Benteke
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I dont get it.
Gil, at Leicester, is excellent and scores an absolute belter of a goal. He then disappears for weeks, only to turn up today, too late.
Ayew comes on against Small Heath, is excellent, disappears, resurfaces today, too late.
Does anyone doubt these two will now disappear again and we'll start with Sanchez and Westwood next week?
and Agbonlahor
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The Villa don't always ruin my Saturday's. Sometimes we play on other days of the week too.
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So after Chelsea it will be 1 point from 24.
Risso might be right. It might be time for Allardyce.
Not sure I've suggested that for a year or two.
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I reckon Sherwood's got FIFA on in the dressing room, and is clicking through all the formations on the tactics screen.
Next Saturday it'll be 3-4-3.
To reference another game, this season is like a Football Manager game gone badly wrong. Buy a bunch of players no one's heard of that your scouts recommend, start the season with a set plan, then results get worse and worse and you still don't know your strongest team or even formation so you change it each week hoping something works somehow.
TS has lost confidence in himself. And his self-confidence was the one major thing he had going for him.
Trouble is he hasn't lost confidence in himself. He cant see he is at fault. So he blames players...morale drops. Confusion, disillusion and relegation follows...
He bench good players and rotate formations every week. The bloom is off the rose...just thorns remain.
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What's Glenn Roeder up to nowadays?
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I am sick of Villa being shit. Sherwood is clearly clueless and just experimenting. No method, no pattern, no idea. Get Sam Allardyce so at least we win because it cannot be worse to watch than the last 5 seasons.
Im sick of it as well but Allardyce isint the answer.
Why? Because his football isn't great? Fucking wow. I've been saying keep sherwood but he has lost me today. I would happily take playing shit and winning. Fat Sam for me as well
Ask yourself why you watch football? Then conclude whether you want Fat c*** Sam or not.
I watch football (Aston villa) to see my team win. I'm so fucking sick of this every weekend for five years I would love allardyce right now. Five years. Of shit. Every week. For five years.
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I dont get it.
Gil, at Leicester, is excellent and scores an absolute belter of a goal. He then disappears for weeks, only to turn up today, too late.
Ayew comes on against Small Heath, is excellent, disappears, resurfaces today, too late.
Does anyone doubt these two will now disappear again and we'll start with Sanchez and Westwood next week?
With gabby
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I dont get it.
Gil, at Leicester, is excellent and scores an absolute belter of a goal. He then disappears for weeks, only to turn up today, too late.
Ayew comes on against Small Heath, is excellent, disappears, resurfaces today, too late.
Does anyone doubt these two will now disappear again and we'll start with Sanchez and Westwood next week?
Veretout has had a good game, expect to not see him for 3 weeks too.
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we're going to get cut off at the bottom, even more so after chelsea
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I'd rather start with an attacking line up than end with one.
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Fortress Villa Park
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amavi has been woeful today, really sloppy.
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The Villa don't always ruin my Saturday's. Sometimes we play on other days of the week too.
Stealing that.
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Amavi is fat becoming the latest in a long line of left-backs who start well, but end up being poor.
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At least there won't be a last minute goal today.
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So after Chelsea it will be 1 point from 24.
Risso might be right. It might be time for Allardyce.
Not sure I've suggested that for a year or two.
I am at the point where mid table mediocrity would be more preferable than this shit.
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Amavi is fat becoming the latest in a long line of left-backs who start well, but end up being poor.
Don't be silly, no ones playing well
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Another great save by butland
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Haven't seen Wilkins once.
they can't fit him into the dugout anymore
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Haven't seen Wilkins once.
they can't fit him into the dugout anymore
Just seen him in big johns in town
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have we broken any records yet with Sherwood. We can't be that bad yet?
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So after Chelsea it will be 1 point from 24.
Risso might be right. It might be time for Allardyce.
Not sure I've suggested that for a year or two.
I am at the point where mid table mediocrity would be more preferable than this shit.
The last five years I've dreamt of mid table mediocrity. After 5 years in a persistent vegitative state, this season may well pull the plug on the patient.
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Amavi is fat becoming the latest in a long line of left-backs who start well, but end up being poor.
Don't be silly, no ones playing well
I mean at the start of the season playing well.
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5 mins? We could have 50 mins, it won't make a jot.
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The thing is, some of our players - quite a few of them - are actually pretty good.
The problem is the bullshitter of a manager.
Yeah we have a decent squad which we haven't had for while.
We just need someone who knows what they are doing to do something with them.
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Must be worst start to the season ever?
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If I didn't support us, I would hate us.
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Looked like handball there. Another good shout for a penalty.
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If I didn't support us, I would hate us.
If you didn't support us, you probably wouldn't know we existed.
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Was shoulder.
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Why leave it so late Sherwood
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Every shot we have looks so bloody predictable
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If I didn't support us, I would hate us.
Just said that now. Who, apart from us, would give a shit if we got relegated? The only reason they'll miss us is because they always beat us!
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we will have competition for big sam I reckon.
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Gil, since he has come on, has shown more life than the rest of the team have for the whole match.
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Its now not looking good folks
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was that free-kick just for a joke?
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Ayew looked lively again.
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chumps league next year with the Jawdies and blunderland
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I'm not going to watch the rest - and instead, make my way down to the hotel bar and find a nice pint of something. Bloody crap.
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that corner just summed everything up.
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Really shit balls in the box
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Worse corner of the match
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Can't wait to hear Dim Tim's excuse for this one. "Against Blues were were shit for one half and scored one. So I thought we'd be shit for two halves and score one more."
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What the fuck was that. Fuck of Vills you ducking bunch of ******. I fucking hate you.
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Shocking
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What the actual fuck are they thinking with that fucking corner. Just fuck off.
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that corner was a damned disgrace, completely unacceptable, they get paid for this would you believe?
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Sherwood needs sacking for that corner
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Well that was fuckin idiotic!
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I'm on holiday in a week.It can't come quick enough.
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have we broken any records yet with Sherwood. We can't be that bad yet?
Worst start to a season since 86/87!
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Going down my lord. If this isn't sorted soon.
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Dreadful, sack him tonight please.
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we will have competition for big sam I reckon.
Well he won't be going back to Whineside
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Really don't know what to think....I'm trying to hope it works out ok but I'm not seeing a lot to convince me.
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have we broken any records yet with Sherwood. We can't be that bad yet?
Worst start to a season since 86/87!
Stoke's last away win was guess where in February....
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Sherwood did a job for us last season but he's out of his depth, and we are in deep deep shit.
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There's got to be someone out there who isn't Big Fucking Sam and who isn't another chancer waiting for his payout.
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Can someone explain this corner? What happened? It sounds incredible in its crapness.
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Can someone explain this corner? What happened? It sounds incredible in its crapness.
Last minute of added time. Gil decides to play a short one and misses Grealish who is 7 yards away. Stoke break away.;
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There's got to be someone out there who isn't Big Fucking Sam and who isn't another chancer waiting for his payout.
Anyone who understands that when you dont have the ball you need to put pressure on the opposition with the ball. We then wouldnt be letting teams walk up to 30 yards from our goal with no challenge.
If the same individual then understands when in possession of the ball your players not in possession of the ball need to move into space.
Oh and a quick throw in every now and again.
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Can someone explain this corner? What happened? It sounds incredible in its crapness.
Gil played it short, other player totally misread it, so the ball went straight past him towards the d of the six yard box.
Right into the path of a Stoke defender who couldn't believe his luck, and promptly took it straight down our end.
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From what I could see Sherwood sh@@ himself so played ultra defensive first half, followed that up by chucking attacking players on second half. They couldn't adapt from a back 5 to a back 4 quick enough and Stoke said thanks for the points.
Going to be another season of massive struggle.
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With the magic he has weaved with that shower down the road I would take Rowett.