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Title: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on September 30, 2015, 08:13:26 AM
Sat 3 Oct 2015 @ 3pm

Villa Park
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: MONCABA on September 30, 2015, 08:15:14 AM
Time to put the bad performances to bed. 3-0 to our villa boys.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Smirker on September 30, 2015, 08:24:57 AM
Probably a 1-1 draw.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: mr underhill on September 30, 2015, 08:39:15 AM
agree with that, I can't see beyond a draw, although I harbour ridiculous hopes that Adama scores one and sets up three more for Rudy as well as leaving the field at full time with both his legs and feet intact.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on September 30, 2015, 08:48:10 AM
Villa win. Fuck knows what the score will be though. Going for 2-1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on September 30, 2015, 09:14:00 AM
Will be my first game at Villa Park for some time so hoping for a good one.

Stoke will be very worried about Gestede as he annihilated them last season.

Seems like their new signings are struggling to settle and they are missing Nzonzi badly in midfield.

Hopefully Grealish can make hay between the lines as a result, if Whelan and Adam play again there will be plenty of space

Their left back Pieters is very slow and ahead of him Arnautovic wont do much tracking back.

Have a feeling there will be plenty of goals in this one - 3-2 to the Villa.

Not sure whether Traore is ready for a start, if not would go for Bacuna for the first 60mins and then bring in Traore

Sinclair needs to get the finger out again too but bar shifting Grealish out there I dont think we have too many options for the left

-------------Guzan
Hutton, Richards, Clark, Amavi
------Sanchez--Gueye
Bacuna, Grealish, Sinclair
----------Gestede------

Westwood, Ayew, Gil, Traore, Bunn, Lescott, Richardson
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Tony Erdington on September 30, 2015, 09:19:11 AM
WIN, JUST win
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: levico on September 30, 2015, 09:23:23 AM
2-0 up at 60 mins, draw 2-2.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on September 30, 2015, 09:23:50 AM
agree with that, I can't see beyond a draw, although I harbour ridiculous hopes that Adama scores one and sets up three more for Rudy as well as leaving the field at full time with both his legs and feet intact.

I can't see Adama passing 3 times in 1 match
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on September 30, 2015, 09:29:47 AM
2-0 up at 60 mins, draw 2-2.
Not again.
Please.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: passport1 on September 30, 2015, 09:53:06 AM
Tim you really do need a win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on September 30, 2015, 09:56:09 AM
Cant see us winning a game at the minute. 1-3 Stoke.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 30, 2015, 10:02:07 AM
It is very important that we win this game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: newtonsballs on September 30, 2015, 10:45:25 AM
Villa to win, God knows how: just put it down to blind belief. Over to you Tim.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: AVH87 on September 30, 2015, 10:49:18 AM
Desperately need a win here. Seems like Stoke fans are actually up for it for once with 2.5k tickets sold so far, can't ever remember them actually needing both tiers before.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on September 30, 2015, 11:19:55 AM
Desperately need a win here. Seems like Stoke fans are actually up for it for once with 2.5k tickets sold so far, can't ever remember them actually needing both tiers before.

They probably see us as a nice away day. Good ground, easy to get to, big allocation, plenty to do if you stay over, shit team and a good chance of a victory.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: yammers on September 30, 2015, 11:20:06 AM
Going for a nervy 2-1 win, Gestede and Ayew the scorers!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on September 30, 2015, 11:51:39 AM
1-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: manic-road on September 30, 2015, 11:54:36 AM
Lose 1-2 bah humbug.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on September 30, 2015, 12:04:11 PM

Stoke appear to have lost quite a bit out of the side with the loss of N’Zonzi and also the absence of their best centre half Shawcross.

I would very much like to see the delivery into Gestede being ten to fifteen yards higher up the pitch where he can really attack the ball. With that in mind I think Traore and Ayew should start, with Ayew playing closer to Gestede.

Solidarity is an issue, but a midfield two of Gana and Sanchez, daft positioning for the first Liverpool goal aside would, bizarrely, gives us a real physical presence that Stoke lack. It is then a question of whether you play Jack centrally or Veretout.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lobsterboy on September 30, 2015, 12:46:30 PM
I'll go for a frustrating 2-2
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: simon ward 50 on September 30, 2015, 12:57:14 PM
A win please Villa!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: YamYamVilla on September 30, 2015, 01:28:40 PM
its a must win, have we beaten Stoke at VP since they got promoted? 3-1 Villa !

Forgive me being really leftfield, but I predict we will take one decent corner too !
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on September 30, 2015, 01:37:16 PM
its a must win, have we beaten Stoke at VP since they got promoted? 3-1 Villa !

Forgive me being really leftfield, but I predict we will take one decent corner too !

We beat them 1-0 one year when MO'N was in charge, they had a goal wrongly disallowed.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: oldhill_avfc on September 30, 2015, 01:44:59 PM
Cant see us winning a game at the minute. 1-3 Stoke.

+1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: conman on September 30, 2015, 01:49:06 PM
looking forward to the bongos at half time for this match
hope to get myself on cam
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 30, 2015, 01:57:37 PM
looking forward to the bongos at half time for this match
hope to get myself on cam

Welcome back Ashley Young.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Tony Erdington on September 30, 2015, 02:04:44 PM
looking forward to the bongos at half time for this match
hope to get myself on cam

Welcome back Ashley Young.

oh the old ASH free kick, loved it when the upper Holte to a man used to stand to catch the Ball. No idea why he left. lol
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: CJ on September 30, 2015, 02:15:34 PM
Shit. I just realised I'd managed to expunge the bongo cam image from my mind completely, and now you've gone and stuck it back in there. Probably the most cringeworthy thing I've ever seen at a football match. Surely they won't do it again. Will they?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on September 30, 2015, 02:29:27 PM
looking forward to the bongos at half time for this match
hope to get myself on cam

Welcome back Ashley Young.

Is the expression "give it the full Ashley" synonymous with "doing the Dirty Den"?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: tony scott on September 30, 2015, 02:34:02 PM
This is one of those games I think we can and will be pretty upset if we don't, therefore 3:1 can't predict scorers as go on then Westwood direct from a corner
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on September 30, 2015, 02:38:31 PM
Villa 4 Stoke 0

Lillis 2
Hepburn-Murphy
Rioch (N)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on September 30, 2015, 02:45:50 PM
We really need to win this game so I'm going 2-1 Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Stu82 on September 30, 2015, 04:26:59 PM
A nervous 2-1
Grealish
Richards
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: The Left Side on September 30, 2015, 04:29:24 PM
1-1, these lots always seem to get lucky playing Villa, we will batter them and end up giving a soft goal away in the 89th minute.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 30, 2015, 04:36:29 PM
1-1, these lots always seem to get lucky playing Villa, we will batter them and end up giving a soft goal away in the 89th minute.

Didn't we get our arses thoroughly handed to us in this fixture last year?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on September 30, 2015, 04:45:41 PM
I wonder if Adama will start. Mark Hughes has improved Stoke but they are beatable. Sherwood needs a good performance otherwise the grumbling will move up a few notches. We seriously cannot afford to lose playing badly

1-1  Gestede for us and Crouchy for them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: AVH87 on September 30, 2015, 04:50:28 PM
1-1, these lots always seem to get lucky playing Villa, we will batter them and end up giving a soft goal away in the 89th minute.

Didn't we get our arses thoroughly handed to us in this fixture last year?

That was the year before when they smashed us 4-1. Last year it looked as if it was fizzling out in to a 1-1 draw and then Vlaar f*cked up in the last minute, got sent off and gave away a penalty following his own mistake and we lost 2-1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on September 30, 2015, 04:58:01 PM
Desperately need a win here. Seems like Stoke fans are actually up for it for once with 2.5k tickets sold so far, can't ever remember them actually needing both tiers before.

They probably see us as a nice away day. Good ground, easy to get to, big allocation, plenty to do if you stay over, shit team and a good chance of a victory.

Like just about every side in the topflight, then.

There is little merit in the idea of bringing Sam Allthepies in, should we suddenly have a managerial vacancy again in the not too distant.

But one of the pluses might be that opposing sides don't look forward to coming to Villa Park anymore. Problem is, many of our own fans will feel the same way.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: paul richard on September 30, 2015, 05:00:12 PM
This is a must win, pure and simple.  No more excuses.  No more jam tomorrow.  Time for TS to get his team selection right, time for TS to get his in-game management right, time for the players to set up, take responsibility, cut out the individual errors and play on the front foot.  Villa to win 2-0.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 30, 2015, 05:02:55 PM
1-1, these lots always seem to get lucky playing Villa, we will batter them and end up giving a soft goal away in the 89th minute.

Didn't we get our arses thoroughly handed to us in this fixture last year?

That was the year before when they smashed us 4-1. Last year it looked as if it was fizzling out in to a 1-1 draw and then Vlaar f*cked up in the last minute, got sent off and gave away a penalty following his own mistake and we lost 2-1.

Ah, you're right there.

Isn't it depressing how all the last four or five depressing-as-shit seasons sort of blend together, to produce one single, huge kick-in-the-face?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: paul richard on September 30, 2015, 05:17:34 PM
This fixture has been a let down for a few seasons now.  Alongside that brace of demoralising defeats sits the memory of that beginning-of-the-end turning point game under MON when we somehow contrived to draw 2-2 against a piss poor Stoke side after leading 2-0 and coasting.  These are the sorts of games that have underpinned our abysmal home record for years now.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on September 30, 2015, 05:31:31 PM
The 2-2 pretty sent our season in to free fall as well from what I can remember.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: BoskoDjembaSalifou on September 30, 2015, 05:36:15 PM
Shit. I just realised I'd managed to expunge the bongo cam image from my mind completely, and now you've gone and stuck it back in there. Probably the most cringeworthy thing I've ever seen at a football match. Surely they won't do it again. Will they?

Oh god. I'd managed to forget about that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: themossman on September 30, 2015, 05:36:39 PM
And crazy to think 2-2 to stoke felt like a tragedy because Arsenal got the jump on us in the chase for champions league places. How times change.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on September 30, 2015, 05:39:50 PM
Was it the same season we absolutely destroyed Arsenal at home, hit the post 3 times and still had to score a last minute goal to draw 2-2. Seems ages ago.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on September 30, 2015, 06:14:48 PM
Villa 4 Stoke 0

Lillis 2
Hepburn-Murphy
Rioch (N)

I miss those halcyon days. Mark Lillis, Neil Rioch and Rushian H-M used to link up so well together.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: KRS on September 30, 2015, 06:51:40 PM
I've said it before and I'm going to have to say it again...we're long overdue a win. The football gods can't allow this drought to continue so the time has come.

Hughes may have improved things at Stoke, but they seem to have gone backwards this season whether that be due to injuries, out of form or just being generally shit. They are there for the taking but Hughes could set them up for an away point.

We need to get the ball down on the deck, play our high tempo football game and get stuck in. If the players aren't up for this and out to get 3pts then god help us...there shouldn't be any need for us to get frustrated if we're standing off them and aren't closing down, we should be all over them, chasing them down and putting them under pressure all over the park.

Dont care about the score as long as we win...and I wont be happy with anything other than a win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: LukeJames on September 30, 2015, 06:59:07 PM
its a must win, have we beaten Stoke at VP since they got promoted? 3-1 Villa !

Forgive me being really leftfield, but I predict we will take one decent corner too !

We beat them 1-0 one year when MO'N was in charge, they had a goal wrongly disallowed.
I think their fans are still celebrating that goal.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on September 30, 2015, 07:10:45 PM
We wil win because we must. Form changes somewhere, for us it will be Saturday overhauling Stoke and Bournemouth in the process.

3-1, the first two goal gap of the campaign.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Nelly on September 30, 2015, 07:36:38 PM
All my hopes rest with Gil.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on September 30, 2015, 07:38:02 PM
We are due a win by the luck gods, so...

Us 2 Them 1

Agbonlahor 16, Ayew 73
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on September 30, 2015, 07:52:55 PM
3-0 home win.

All Sherwood issues brushed under the carpet until the end of October.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: IAmTheOneIanOlney on September 30, 2015, 08:05:48 PM
1-0. Don't know who to, though.

Sure I heard Shakira went off with a hamstring problem last weekend, don't know if that's true. Or maybe it was his hips, they don't lie. Either way, if he's out, that's a bonus.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on September 30, 2015, 08:51:44 PM
cant see this being a classic. Penultimate game on Motd , a game of very few chances and an odd goal winning it.
0-1 away win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Steve kirk on September 30, 2015, 08:56:12 PM
We just have to win this one, how the fuck we will manage to do it I dont know but we simply have to
2-1 Villa
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Villafirst on September 30, 2015, 10:00:05 PM
1-2 Stoke. Another ruined weekend.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Steve67 on September 30, 2015, 10:06:02 PM
stoke will kick the crap out of us and gain a minimum of a draw. We are crap at this sort of physical game. Still, we have super Ashley Westwood in the middle of the park, what can possibly go wrong?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: DB on September 30, 2015, 10:06:07 PM
Villa win, England smash the Aussies and then a few beers.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on September 30, 2015, 10:29:18 PM
All my hopes rest with Gil.
this is the game he got substituted never to be seen again for 6 months.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: KRS on September 30, 2015, 11:15:11 PM
stoke will kick the crap out of us and gain a minimum of a draw. We are crap at this sort of physical game. Still, we have super Ashley Westwood in the middle of the park, what can possibly go wrong?
Stoke aren't particularly a physical team anymore under Hughes. They may still be dirty cheating bastards but they are not the team of bruisers they once were under Pulis.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on October 01, 2015, 01:02:07 AM
Will be my first game at Villa Park for some time so hoping for a good one.

Stoke will be very worried about Gestede as he annihilated them last season.

Seems like their new signings are struggling to settle and they are missing Nzonzi badly in midfield.

Hopefully Grealish can make hay between the lines as a result, if Whelan and Adam play again there will be plenty of space

Their left back Pieters is very slow and ahead of him Arnautovic wont do much tracking back.

Have a feeling there will be plenty of goals in this one - 3-2 to the Villa.

Not sure whether Traore is ready for a start, if not would go for Bacuna for the first 60mins and then bring in Traore

Sinclair needs to get the finger out again too but bar shifting Grealish out there I dont think we have too many options for the left

-------------Guzan
Hutton, Richards, Clark, Amavi
------Sanchez--Gueye
Bacuna, Grealish, Sinclair
----------Gestede------

Westwood, Ayew, Gil, Traore, Bunn, Lescott, Richardson

Agree with that team except for Bacuna on the right.  Would prefer to see Ayew or Traore start ahead of him.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: KRS on October 01, 2015, 01:24:38 AM
I'd agree with that tom, so it would be...

                   Guzan

Hutton   Richards   Clark   Amavi

         Sanchez       Gueye

Traore        Grealish        Sinclair

                 Gestede

If we're winning then I'd sure up the midfield, switch to 442 bringing on Bacuna, Westwood, Veretout for Traore (rest him in case of injury), Sanchez (because he'll be blowing out of his arse on the hour), and either Sinclair or Grealish (depending on who is the most invisible in the second half).
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on October 01, 2015, 02:13:08 AM
I've said it before and I'm going to have to say it again...we're long overdue a win. The football gods can't allow this drought to continue so the time has come.

Sadly I think the football gods are just getting started with us. Another loss I reckon. Its hard for me to beleive anything else given our form. Hopefully it ends now, but its just hope :(
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Tom_Mc9? on October 01, 2015, 07:34:55 AM
We're going to unleash hell.

5-0.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: l_mckay on October 01, 2015, 07:46:56 AM
Can't see beyond a draw 1-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: JD on October 01, 2015, 08:37:38 AM
We're going to unleash hell.

5-0.
Yes, yes we are Tom, totally agree.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Tony Erdington on October 01, 2015, 09:18:03 AM
We're going to unleash hell.

5-0.

Youve started early

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: baddowvillans on October 01, 2015, 09:59:56 AM
We're going to unleash hell.

5-0.

I will definitely have what you're having!  It's a big game and I would love to see a good performance AND result. I'm in the keep him for now but definitely not beyond end November if he has failed to get the news guys delivering consistently and lifted us up the table. It won't be easy given the run of fixtures but if we are to change - and if we are bottom three I think we must - we need to do it before other clubs are pulling the trigger and to give time to plan for the transfer window. I didn't want Sherwood but would genuinely like to see him succeed. Somehow I just can't see it!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 01, 2015, 11:07:48 AM
The assessment of Stoke as bruisers is way off the mark., even more so without Shawcross and N’Zonzi. They do remain a Mark Hughes side however and are still cynical, cheating bastards.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on October 01, 2015, 11:50:24 AM
Are we really charging away fans £41?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on October 01, 2015, 11:57:44 AM
Are we really charging away fans £41?

Yes, far too much in my opinion but we're not the highest.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: AVH87 on October 01, 2015, 12:07:25 PM
It's also a rip off for our own fans though, anyone wanting to sit in the Trinity or Witton for this game has to pay £41 too, so it's a general pricing problem, not that we are targeting away fans.

£41 would be too much if it was Man U in town, for Stoke it's ridiculous.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 01, 2015, 01:06:20 PM
It'll seem a bargain afterwards though.

Eight-three to us, another Villa Thriller.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on October 01, 2015, 01:10:57 PM
I can see this being sub 30k attendance
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on October 01, 2015, 01:31:22 PM
It was 31k last season so it'll probably be roundabout that again.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: CT Villan on October 01, 2015, 02:03:24 PM
I think we'll win and I'd like to see Gil, Grealish and Sinclair playing behind the striker. Traore and Ayew to come on after 60 mins (knowing Sherwood, it will be for Lescott and Sanchez)

1-0 Gestede.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: CJ on October 01, 2015, 02:06:33 PM
I can see this being sub 30k attendance

That's not what you put on GTC!  ;)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: AVH87 on October 01, 2015, 02:25:32 PM
Will be a lot more than 30-31k imo, online seating plan shows the Holte and the North as very limited availability. Would be surprised if it was much below 35k.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: paul richard on October 01, 2015, 02:57:48 PM
This is a pivotal game and Sherwood has to get his team selection, tactics and in-game management spot on.  A line up that doesn't include Gabby, Westwood or Bacuna would be a good start.  I'd go with:

                   Guzan
Hutton  Richards  Clark  Amavi
            Sanchez  Gana
      Gil        Grealish    Sinclair
                  Gestede

Gil or Sinclair to make way for Traore in 2nd half.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on October 01, 2015, 03:14:12 PM
I can see this being sub 30k attendance

That's not what you put on GTC!  ;)
Due to bonus points on offer
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: lukey27 on October 01, 2015, 03:17:53 PM
Bit worried that a few on here think the way to go is essentially play 4-2-3-1 again. The lack of control we have in midfield has been untrue in the last few weeks. Even Man City play one in front of two holding midfielders and they've got much better players than us.

The 11 he picked last Saturday was fine by me, the fact we were so deep and didn't press was the problem.

The players look lost when we've played 4-2-3-1, there's a massive gaping hole in the middle of the park and the two exposed full backs get even less protection.

I'd play 4-3-3, with Grealish and Ayew either side of Gestede and a midfield three of Sanchez, Veretout and Gana.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on October 01, 2015, 03:18:24 PM
Will be a lot more than 30-31k imo, online seating plan shows the Holte and the North as very limited availability. Would be surprised if it was much below 35k.

I agree - similar profile of tickets available as the Sunderland game which was about 34k IIRC
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Jockey Randall on October 01, 2015, 04:13:59 PM
Bit worried that a few on here think the way to go is essentially play 4-2-3-1 again. The lack of control we have in midfield has been untrue in the last few weeks. Even Man City play one in front of two holding midfielders and they've got much better players than us.

The 11 he picked last Saturday was fine by me, the fact we were so deep and didn't press was the problem.

The players look lost when we've played 4-2-3-1, there's a massive gaping hole in the middle of the park and the two exposed full backs get even less protection.

I'd play 4-3-3, with Grealish and Ayew either side of Gestede and a midfield three of Sanchez, Veretout and Gana.

I'd go with the same. Get Grealish and Veretout on set pieces as well. Veretout's set piece stats in France sounded decent and I think we're all agreed that Westwood needs taking off these anyway.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on October 01, 2015, 04:56:58 PM
Bit worried that a few on here think the way to go is essentially play 4-2-3-1 again. The lack of control we have in midfield has been untrue in the last few weeks. Even Man City play one in front of two holding midfielders and they've got much better players than us.

The 11 he picked last Saturday was fine by me, the fact we were so deep and didn't press was the problem.

The players look lost when we've played 4-2-3-1, there's a massive gaping hole in the middle of the park and the two exposed full backs get even less protection.

I'd play 4-3-3, with Grealish and Ayew either side of Gestede and a midfield three of Sanchez, Veretout and Gana.

this
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 01, 2015, 05:58:38 PM
Stoke at home always feels like the result fucks us over way beyond that game. It would be ace if for once it signalled a revival of sorts.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on October 01, 2015, 08:04:12 PM
Villa win, England smash the Aussies and then a few beers.

I'd say you've already started on the beers.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 01, 2015, 08:25:26 PM
Must win.

1-1 it is.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on October 01, 2015, 08:35:34 PM
2-0 Home win.

Sinclair
Grealish

Please?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: paulcomben on October 01, 2015, 08:55:52 PM
Scarey. Must win and these thugs always score late on. Diouf last season. Please do us proud at last, Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on October 01, 2015, 09:37:07 PM
Scarey. Must win and these thugs always score late on. Diouf last season. Please do us proud at last, Villa.
I don't think they are as thugish as they were under Tiny Penis are they ? Or am I misinformed
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on October 01, 2015, 10:38:35 PM
Bit worried that a few on here think the way to go is essentially play 4-2-3-1 again. The lack of control we have in midfield has been untrue in the last few weeks. Even Man City play one in front of two holding midfielders and they've got much better players than us.

The 11 he picked last Saturday was fine by me, the fact we were so deep and didn't press was the problem.

The players look lost when we've played 4-2-3-1, there's a massive gaping hole in the middle of the park and the two exposed full backs get even less protection.

I'd play 4-3-3, with Grealish and Ayew either side of Gestede and a midfield three of Sanchez, Veretout and Gana.

this

Same here. We need to win the midfield battle to win the game, and we need the 3. Westwood, Traore, Gil all great options to bring on for tiring legs second half.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ian. on October 01, 2015, 10:42:59 PM
I'd agree with that tom, so it would be...

                   Guzan

Hutton   Richards   Clark   Amavi

         Sanchez       Gueye

Traore        Grealish        Sinclair

                 Gestede



Looks good but I'd like to see Ayew in the first eleven, maybe instead of Traore as he's been out a while.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on October 02, 2015, 09:08:06 AM
Score draw, crap subs and we go again. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: boboonthecorner on October 02, 2015, 11:17:48 AM
I see Traore injured again.......?!? Probably too early to say but lets hope this isn't a sign of things to come. I'm going to be unusually optimistic and say 3-2 Villa. Ayew given a chance and opening his account and Rudy getting regular service with a brace :) UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on October 02, 2015, 11:18:02 AM
                  Guzan

Hutton   Richards   Clark   Amavi

         Sanchez       Gueye

Ayew        Veretout        Grealish

                 Gestede
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on October 02, 2015, 11:20:35 AM
                  Guzan

Hutton   Richards   Clark   Amavi

         Sanchez       Gueye

Ayew        Veretout        Grealish

                 Gestede

I do like the look of that side, but i'd go with Bacuna instead of Hutton. He was awful last week.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on October 02, 2015, 11:24:06 AM
                  Guzan

Hutton   Richards   Clark   Amavi

         Sanchez       Gueye

Ayew        Veretout        Grealish

                 Gestede

I do like the look of that side, but i'd go with Bacuna instead of Hutton. He was awful last week.

I would be tempted to chuck Crespo in

I think Ayew gives us a good option down the right as against small heath he was dropping deep to collect the ball and helping the midfield out

Anyway I just know he won't pick this side  ::)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: in exile on October 02, 2015, 12:23:32 PM
I see Traore injured again?
Where did that info come from?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: AVH87 on October 02, 2015, 12:50:02 PM
I see Traore injured again?
Where did that info come from?

On the OS Sherwood saying he was limping for the U21s on Monday, sounds doubtful for tomorrow. Ayew should get a start wide right in front of either Bacuna or Hutton, picking between them two is like picking between two blokes to steal your mrs.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: LTA on October 02, 2015, 12:51:53 PM
Lawro speaks:

Aside from Rudy Gestede, none of their summer signings have caught the eye yet and there is no way you can tell me they look a better team than last year.

The reality of the situation is that they are in a relegation fight. Sherwood has admitted it, but some of their new players will be thinking "I didn't sign up for this".
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Pete on October 02, 2015, 01:53:09 PM
Lawro speaks:

Aside from Rudy Gestede, none of their summer signings have caught the eye yet and there is no way you can tell me they look a better team than last year.

The reality of the situation is that they are in a relegation fight. Sherwood has admitted it, but some of their new players will be thinking "I didn't sign up for this".

Amavi, probably our best performing new signing, hasn't caught his eye? Says it all about his punditry skills.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: in exile on October 02, 2015, 01:59:34 PM
I see Traore injured again?
Where did that info come from?

On the OS Sherwood saying he was limping for the U21s on Monday, sounds doubtful for tomorrow. Ayew should get a start wide right in front of either Bacuna or Hutton, picking between them two is like picking between two blokes to steal your mrs.
Oh bugger, I didn't realise.
I see we share the same right back beliefs! 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on October 02, 2015, 02:01:14 PM
Lawro speaks:

Aside from Rudy Gestede, none of their summer signings have caught the eye yet and there is no way you can tell me they look a better team than last year.

The reality of the situation is that they are in a relegation fight. Sherwood has admitted it, but some of their new players will be thinking "I didn't sign up for this".

Most supporters are thinking the same Lawro.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: VILLA MOLE on October 02, 2015, 02:09:43 PM
Lawro speaks:

Aside from Rudy Gestede, none of their summer signings have caught the eye yet and there is no way you can tell me they look a better team than last year.

The reality of the situation is that they are in a relegation fight. Sherwood has admitted it, but some of their new players will be thinking "I didn't sign up for this".

Amavi, probably our best performing new signing, hasn't caught his eye? Says it all about his punditry skills.

He is up there with Savage , lazy looked up the results punditry , knows sweet FA
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on October 02, 2015, 02:43:08 PM
Well he played at the top for enough years so you would imagine he knows slightly more 'than sweet FA.'  Having said that I think Amavi has impressed a few people in the game with his attacking skills!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chris Jameson on October 02, 2015, 02:53:42 PM

He is up there with Savage , lazy looked up the results punditry , knows sweet FA

Savage is in a league of his own, nobody even comes close.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on October 02, 2015, 03:23:03 PM
Savage is inane and pretty thick - the two second culture personified. I don't think he takes himself all that seriously.

Lawro on the other hand is a fucking lazy bastard who thinks he is doing all of us a favour sitting slouched on the sofa repeating the same blurb for the last 20 years. Fuck right Off ya has been
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on October 02, 2015, 03:28:26 PM
Fuck the fuckers
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 02, 2015, 03:35:19 PM
                  Guzan

Hutton   Richards   Clark   Amavi

         Sanchez       Gueye

Ayew        Veretout        Grealish

                 Gestede

I do like the look of that side, but i'd go with Bacuna instead of Hutton. He was awful last week.

Bacuna's last game was one of the worst I've seen from any Villa player in the last few years. Complete headless chicken who got worse by the minute. Hutton whilst not brilliant last week looked one of the few competent players out there.

I like that side but would maybe swap Ayew for Gil though he did get bullied by them last season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: VILLA MOLE on October 02, 2015, 03:45:06 PM
Well he played at the top for enough years so you would imagine he knows slightly more 'than sweet FA.'  Having said that I think Amavi has impressed a few people in the game with his attacking skills!

I was referring to his current knowledge Of Villa , I am sure he knows alot more than me about football in general  :-\
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 02, 2015, 04:09:34 PM
Cant. really argue with Lawros comments, Amavi has looked good at times but is a long way from the complete article.
I do not think we look a better team either and we are in a relegation battle already.

We are all hoping that Sherwood somehow finds the right combination, stops making daft decisions we start to gel as a team and start picking up points real quick.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on October 02, 2015, 04:11:11 PM
Cant. really argue with Lawros comments, Amavi has looked good at times but is a long way from the complete article.
I do not think we look a better team either and we are in a relegation battle already.

We are all hoping that Sherwood somehow finds the right combination, stops making daft decisions we start to gel as a team and start picking up points real quick.


7 games in, I can argue with Lawro's comments all day long.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on October 02, 2015, 04:13:51 PM
Lawro speaks:

Aside from Rudy Gestede, none of their summer signings have caught the eye yet and there is no way you can tell me they look a better team than last year.

The reality of the situation is that they are in a relegation fight. Sherwood has admitted it, but some of their new players will be thinking "I didn't sign up for this".

Amavi, probably our best performing new signing, hasn't caught his eye? Says it all about his punditry skills.
Amavi whilst looking good at times has really caught the eye for his stupid costly errors. Not convinced.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on October 02, 2015, 04:19:15 PM
I think Amavi overall has been good. A little suspect at times but being new to the league, it's possible that was going to happen.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on October 02, 2015, 04:24:39 PM
He reminds me a bit of Ashley Cole but with glitches.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 02, 2015, 04:48:20 PM
His crossing is sublime.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on October 02, 2015, 04:56:24 PM
His crossing is sublime.
Would like him on corners
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on October 02, 2015, 05:04:12 PM
i think amavi would be better as a left sided midfielder
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: in exile on October 02, 2015, 05:04:31 PM
His crossing is sublime.
Would like him on corners
Even though you are not convinced
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: villadelph on October 02, 2015, 05:20:05 PM
Don't think we'll win.. a draw at best. This isn't the game to rely on Rudy's head. We must be dynamic and force them to adjust if we are to get anything out of the game.

3-1, Stoke  :-\
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: cheltenhamlion on October 02, 2015, 05:37:58 PM
Went for a Villa win for no other reason than we desperately need one.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: preston28 on October 02, 2015, 06:25:07 PM
My second game this season & my 6 year old sons first ever game! Hoping desperately for a win bit think it will be a 1-1 draw.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on October 02, 2015, 06:41:44 PM


----------------- Guzan -------------------
-- Richards - Okore - Clark - Amavi --
----- Gana - Sanchez - Veretout ------
--------------Gil ----- Grealish -----------
----------------Gestede-------------------
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on October 02, 2015, 07:01:51 PM
I can't see beyond a home defeat, I'm sorry to say. Nothing in what is currently happening at VP suggests a sudden upturn in quality, attitude and game management.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: four fornicholl on October 02, 2015, 07:21:59 PM
probably not the right thread but is there any latest news on
tiago ilori's progress. hows he shaping?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on October 02, 2015, 08:00:28 PM
I think Amavi overall has been good. A little suspect at times but being new to the league, it's possible that was going to happen.

He's been very impressive in almost every first half but prone to tiredness both physically and mentally second half but yes, overall he's been one of our better players.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Quiet Lion on October 02, 2015, 08:06:00 PM
I am with the negative crowd on this one - I just cant see us getting any points out of this one
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: pooligan on October 02, 2015, 08:10:28 PM
Not confident of winning this at all. would settle for a point to end the losing run we are I'll go for 1-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: spk on October 02, 2015, 08:56:12 PM
Just a quickie from twitter,Twentys plenty protest/photo/media fest at 2.15 in front of the Holte end (with Stoke fans welcome apparently )
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on October 02, 2015, 08:59:46 PM
                  Guzan

Hutton   Richards   Clark   Amavi

         Sanchez       Gueye

Ayew        Veretout        Grealish

                 Gestede

I would give Sinclair another game on the left and start Grealish in the middle, but I agree with the rest of that team.   
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 02, 2015, 09:17:00 PM
Just a quickie from twitter,Twentys plenty protest/photo/media fest at 2.15 in front of the Holte end (with Stoke fans welcome apparently )
Makes perfect sense ???WTF
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Legion on October 02, 2015, 09:18:57 PM
It does. See our FB page.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on October 02, 2015, 09:23:09 PM
It does. See our FB page.
Whats an FB page? why do people talk in shorthand?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: spk on October 02, 2015, 09:35:33 PM
Twentys plenty is a protest group formed to campaign against high ticket costs,Chicago Lion.Its in every ground of the country this weekend.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lizz on October 02, 2015, 09:52:34 PM
Would settle for a draw right now.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on October 02, 2015, 09:56:09 PM
It does. See our FB page.
Whats an FB page? why do people talk in shorthand?

Chill out CL
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: four fornicholl on October 02, 2015, 10:20:42 PM
fb facebook twitter load of bollox
self affirmation shite
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on October 02, 2015, 10:22:49 PM
It does. See our FB page.
Whats an FB page? why do people talk in shorthand?

Chill out CL

FB is Face Book Chicago. Look on Aston Villa Face Book page ......
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on October 02, 2015, 10:26:48 PM
I thought we had to look at Fabio Borini's page.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on October 02, 2015, 10:29:54 PM
fb facebook twitter load of bollox
self affirmation shite

I think it depends what you use it for, doesn't it?

I use Twitter daily just to catch up with news especially if I miss the TV news.  It's a laugh, I retweet sometimes if there's something I like. Great with an emerging story (NASA and Pluto) or sport on the day or minute by minute for instant updates.

I go on Facebook for Villa far more often than visiting my own page, which gets a visit and maybe an update, ooh, every 3 / 4 months or so!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: four fornicholl on October 02, 2015, 10:33:51 PM
denial
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on October 02, 2015, 10:36:04 PM
Personally I think messageboards are for the delusional, the egotistical and  the downright sad.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on October 02, 2015, 10:43:46 PM
Personally I think messageboards are for the delusional, the egotistical and  the downright sad.
denial

*pours another Sauvignon blanc*
Ooooh, you're so right.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: villan from luton on October 02, 2015, 11:02:55 PM
Guzan
Hutton Richards  Lescott   Amavi
              Sanchez
      Vertout          Gana
Adama                          Grealish
              Gestede
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on October 02, 2015, 11:04:13 PM
Guzan might have to move over a bit, villan from Luton.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: villan from luton on October 02, 2015, 11:08:39 PM
Guzan might have to move over a bit, villan from Luton.

He might have more chance from that position :-)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on October 02, 2015, 11:11:35 PM
Guzan might have to move over a bit, villan from Luton.

He might have more chance from that position :-)
I hear GK training this week at BH has been....unusual!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: villan from luton on October 02, 2015, 11:14:22 PM
Yes, I have been organising it lol
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on October 02, 2015, 11:16:51 PM
Excellent! :)


Hope that Brad is playing a false No. 2.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: villan from luton on October 02, 2015, 11:21:24 PM
Some would say he has been playing a false number 1 for a while, but actually thought he was ok at the red scouse mob.

I do think we need to play one out of Sanchez/Westwood, actually I have forgotten Ayew and maybe he should start ahead of Adama. Really thought he was unlucky not to start last weekend after his performance against the noses
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on October 02, 2015, 11:27:08 PM
I think Ayew should start, as well. However,
We don't see them training before the match but he made such a difference, last time.

So perhaps he comes on with another, I dunno, 20 minutes to make a difference.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: villan from luton on October 02, 2015, 11:48:38 PM
If Adama is not fully fit, maybe Ayew to start. I think the manager was wrong not choosing him last weekend as he is someone who pressures people. WTF am I to know, I didn't even remember him lol
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: LTA on October 03, 2015, 12:31:14 AM
Cant. really argue with Lawros comments, Amavi has looked good at times but is a long way from the complete article.
I do not think we look a better team either and we are in a relegation battle already.

We are all hoping that Sherwood somehow finds the right combination, stops making daft decisions we start to gel as a team and start picking up points real quick.

Amavi looks good going forward, but a bit suspect at the back.  Gana runs around without doing anything, Veretout is off the pace and Ayew looked good against a championship back four.

That's before you even start of some of Sherwoods rather bizarre in game management.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: villan from luton on October 03, 2015, 12:43:46 AM
I think Amavi can be a top player, he is certainly better than Moreno at Liverpool for example.

Gana has been good for me, Vertout needs to get to the pace but is he going to get that with splinters on his backside? As for Ayew, we don't know. He scored a cracking goal for his country late on, he is buzzing, so gets left on the bench and comes on and makes a massive difference to me. He should have been in the team last weekend IMHO as would have hassled their team
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on October 03, 2015, 12:55:12 AM
Amavi is a star.
I have so enjoyed what he has done so far. What a player.

If Marvin is fit as well, then he is easily in there, I would have thought.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ian. on October 03, 2015, 12:55:21 AM
Guzan
Hutton Richards  Lescott   Amavi
              Sanchez
      Vertout          Gana
Adama                          Grealish
              Gestede
Excellent, I always loved 'Rush' goalkeepers.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: villan from luton on October 03, 2015, 12:58:15 AM
Amavi is a star.
I have so enjoyed what he has done so far. What a player.

If Marvin is fit as well, then he is easily in there, I would have thought.


Marvin Harewood has gone aint he lol?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: villan from luton on October 03, 2015, 12:59:32 AM
Guzan
Hutton Richards  Lescott   Amavi
              Sanchez
      Vertout          Gana
Adama                          Grealish
              Gestede
Excellent, I always loved 'Rush' goalkeepers.

Good point, some would say he may as well be, but I happen to think he is competent excep for the kicking.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on October 03, 2015, 01:07:00 AM
Amavi is a star.
I have so enjoyed what he has done so far. What a player.

If Marvin is fit as well, then he is easily in there, I would have thought.


Marvin Harewood has gone aint he lol?
You're right, it's Gana.




Still think Gueye missed a trick, there.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: villan from luton on October 03, 2015, 01:10:25 AM
Amavi is a star.
I have so enjoyed what he has done so far. What a player.

If Marvin is fit as well, then he is easily in there, I would have thought.


Marvin Harewood has gone aint he lol?
You're right, it's Gana.




Still think Gueye missed a trick, there.

Are they the lads who almost add up to super Ian Ormroyd in size, never seen them play together
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on October 03, 2015, 01:13:21 AM
Probably! ;)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: villabear on October 03, 2015, 07:58:09 AM
Cant. really argue with Lawros comments, Amavi has looked good at times but is a long way from the complete article.
I do not think we look a better team either and we are in a relegation battle already.

We are all hoping that Sherwood somehow finds the right combination, stops making daft decisions we start to gel as a team and start picking up points real quick.

Amavi looks good going forward, but a bit suspect at the back.  Gana runs around without doing anything, Veretout is off the pace and Ayew looked good against a championship back four.

That's before you even start of some of Sherwoods rather bizarre in game management.

If Gueye is in we look a far better team. He's back from quite a bad injury and needs games to get up to speed. To say he runs around a lot without doing anything is a bit flippant.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on October 03, 2015, 08:02:41 AM
We aren't playing as a team. More a collection of individuals all trying to settle in and impress without the joined up approach.
We also lack leadership
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on October 03, 2015, 09:11:22 AM
We desperately need a win today.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: footyskillz on October 03, 2015, 09:34:40 AM
Need the win and will get the win I guessing on a 2-1 scoreline. Now it could be one of those stokes attacking players don't turn up and we go in to a comfortable 2-0 lead and concede late on when big man crouch comes on causing panic . or its a hard fought 90 of a to and fro match. Ireland and sidwell prob wont start but the booing will be held for any sub appearances I imagine.
I have to say without shawcross stoke haven't be as near as solid and they have conceded on their travles this season. Hughes seems to have an imbalanced squad focusing on the attack players. The players I fear most are bojan who will look for pockets of space and the pesky anautovic who delivers crossing and shots well. Also Shaqiri could find his feet if allowed and can score from anywhere. I think he must be monitored as amavi could be up against today.
Wolschild and munisea or Cameron are suspect at back and can be beaten I think it's a to and fro match and hope it comes together.
I think a penalty or set play will win this one after the initial early goal!
Come on villa boys
2-1
Gestede
Sinclair pen.
Crouch

Line up
                 guzan,
Hutton,Clark Richards, amvai
  Ghana Sanchez Westwood
Sinclair Gestede Grealish
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: footyskillz on October 03, 2015, 09:38:30 AM
I rate butland who could well get booed too.
Despite Hart good game in champions league think buthead butland could be England's number one . He makes outstanding save after save in each game as stoke defense is porous , ponderous and in stoke like . I would have said more goals for villa but remember their gk. I really don't care their central defnece at the moment though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on October 03, 2015, 10:06:30 AM
Glad I didn't post yesterday, it would've been all doom and gloom. But nothing lifts my funk like the arrival of match day. Fuck these fuckers. Scoreline, scorers, couldn't give a toss. Us some, them fewer, ideally none.

Guzan

Hutton
Richards
Clark
Amavi

Sanchez
Gana
Veretout

Ayew
Gestede
Grealish
is how I'd go. But half expecting to see Lescott, Bacuna, Westwood, Gil and Sinclair getting the nod.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on October 03, 2015, 10:09:52 AM
Just want Sherwood to adopt the same approach  he did for Benteke for Gestede. Get the ball into him and he will either score or drag the central defenders out and create space for Sinclair-Ayewe-Grealish etc. Hope Traore gets half hour. 2-0 ........
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on October 03, 2015, 10:41:36 AM
What villa bars are worth checking out pre-game?

Reasonably confident but that's based on the assumption of a sensible starting line up that doesn't include the likes of Lescott, Gabby and possibly Westwood
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on October 03, 2015, 10:44:43 AM
Id go with Hutton (as poor as he was at Liverpool, he's better than Bacuna), Richards, Lescott, Amavi, Sanchez anchoring, Gana and Veretout getting box to box so we can button up the midfield for once, Ayew and Grealish off Gestede.

We need to cut out the early balls into Gestede unless they are there for him to attack in the box.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on October 03, 2015, 10:50:18 AM
Personally I think messageboards are for the delusional, the egotistical and  the downright sad.

Quite right. I confess to being all of the above.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on October 03, 2015, 11:47:54 AM
Imagine villa getting a decent result today.

How nice would that be?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on October 03, 2015, 12:08:09 PM
What villa bars are worth checking out pre-game?

Reasonably confident but that's based on the assumption of a sensible starting line up that doesn't include the likes of Lescott, Gabby and possibly Westwood

Aston Tavern. On my way now. £3-4 in but can go after the game as well and decent eye candy behind the bar !!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: CJ on October 03, 2015, 12:33:52 PM
3-2. Stroll in the park with the winner in the 6th minute of time added on
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on October 03, 2015, 12:35:04 PM
Really can't see a win here. We're just too leaky. Hope I'm wrong
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chris Jameson on October 03, 2015, 12:41:43 PM
Personally I think messageboards are for the delusional, the egotistical and  the downright sad.

Quite right. I confess to being all of the above.

Don't forget lonely and socially awkward.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on October 03, 2015, 12:55:05 PM
What villa bars are worth checking out pre-game?

Reasonably confident but that's based on the assumption of a sensible starting line up that doesn't include the likes of Lescott, Gabby and possibly Westwood

Aston Tavern. On my way now. £3-4 in but can go after the game as well and decent eye candy behind the bar !!

best of luck getting served!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Malandro on October 03, 2015, 01:50:59 PM
We've lost that loving feeling. Lets thump the fuckers and get it back. Come on boys you owe us a performance.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on October 03, 2015, 02:03:10 PM
Hmm, now that team selection seems baffling to me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: timeoutbigbar on October 03, 2015, 02:05:08 PM
Three full backs, Gil and Grealish on the bench and no Traore at all.  What the actual fuck?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Stoke City - Pre Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on October 03, 2015, 02:18:18 PM
Westwood again sigh
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