Good god.
Terrible officiating. Kieran stay home. I love you Benteke. Jack phenomenal. Sanchez, we wear red pass to it.
Onwards and upwards.. after my heart attack.
Tim Sherwoods lack of changes during games has cost us points again here
Benteke 3 QPR 3.
If we had Messi and Ronaldo in the team we would lose 10-9.
Decent game. End to end. Frenetic pace. Very entertaining for neutrals I'd imagine. For us? A bloody heart attack waiting to happen.
Benteke was back to his very best. If we stay up it may well come down to that free-kick. Brilliant. If he plays like this for the last 6 games we stay up with space to breath.
Gabby was up for it today.
Delph did okay.
Grealish impressed me. Cole did okay when he came on too.
Vlaar did okay on his return, though he still seems to struggle up against Zamora when he backs in. Thankfully though, Zamora runs out of steam on 60 minutes.
Sanchez was okay at times but his ricks stand out. He got caught cold too often and it could have cost us.
Richardson had a torrid game. I'd say it was down to fitness, but honestly, he's not very good any more and he's never looked that fit since being here. I think he's a significant weakness at LB.
Tim Sherwoods lack of changes during games has cost us points again hereHe made 3 substitutions. Cole did well when he came on. Zogbia won the freekick which Benteke scored from. I think he did okay to be honest. Had Bacuna not picked up a knock, he may have taken off Richardson instead as Rico was clearly our weak spot.
Lets be honest this is going to the last game isn't it.
Tim Sherwoods lack of changes during games has cost us points again here
Lets be honest this is going to the last game isn't it.
Yes, I think it is. Burnley away.... Blimey!
Qpr should not have got 3 goals from that performance. We're scoring goals now but the defence is letting us down.
Were at home to Burnley aren't we?Lets be honest this is going to the last game isn't it.
Yes, I think it is. Burnley away.... Blimey!
Lets be honest this is going to the last game isn't it.
Yes, I think it is. Burnley away.... Blimey!
Lets be honest this is going to the last game isn't it.
Yes, I think it is. Burnley away.... Blimey!
Lets be honest this is going to the last game isn't it.
Yes, I think it is. Burnley away.... Blimey!
Richardson for their second, jesus fucking christ, just stood there, asleep.
Lets be honest this is going to the last game isn't it.
Yes, I think it is. Burnley away.... Blimey!
Better not be away, I'm home for that match and trying to get tickets. It's at home.
Gabby largely anonymous tonight / all season.
Gabby largely anonymous tonight / all season.
Tim Sherwoods lack of changes during games has cost us points again here
It might also be the lack of quality players at his disposal. Richardson had a fucking 'mare.
Richardson for their second, jesus fucking christ, just stood there, asleep.
I don't know what Lowton did wrong to be left out and I don't know why Grealish was taken off.
Cleverley was dreadful.
Excellent ? Really ?Gabby largely anonymous tonight / all season.Gabby largely anonymous tonight / all season.
He was excellent in the first half
Richardson for their second, jesus fucking christ, just stood there, asleep.
I don't know what Lowton did wrong to be left out and I don't know why Grealish was taken off.
Cleverley was dreadful.
It's funny how people see things differently, I thought that Cleverley had for the most part a very good game, with several high quality attacking moments. Sanchez and Richardson were dire. Grealish did well, I thought.
It's funny how people see things differently, I thought that Cleverley had for the most part a very good game, with several high quality attacking moments. Sanchez and Richardson were dire. Grealish did well, I thought.
Never felt we would win this game the stakes were too high We will pick up the necessary points against teams on the beach hopefully Sourhampton, West Ham, Everton.
Lets be honest this is going to the last game isn't it.
Yes, I think it is. Burnley away.... Blimey!
It's Burnley at Villa Park. I don't think they've won at VP since about 1508.
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I remember them destroying us 3-0 - it was 1973 mind.
Never felt we would win this game the stakes were too high We will pick up the necessary points against teams on the beach hopefully Southampton, West Ham, Everton.
That is a fucking horrendous performance second half and terrible result.
I think Hull will stay below us now.
I think Hull will stay below us now.
Concrete Ron? More like putty Ron. He is not interested in the slightest. I saw him at birmingham airport in October "when we played man c at home" he was supposed to be injured with a calf strain. Well he looked ok when he jogged into the airport terminal to collect some friends. He should have been a VP supporting the team. The sooner he leaves the better. Along with many other players who are not good enough. Poor management from the top has got us into this position. Not sure we will stay up now. We are yet again relying on other teams to slip up.
Very very sad times indeed.
Benteke 3 QPR 3.
If we had Messi and Ronaldo in the team we would lose 10-9.
Pretty true, Archie. How are you my friend? Life in Italy is treating you well, I hope.
Ridiculous game. 6am almost, here in Tokyo. I'm off to bed. Not gutted with the point, but still a nervous run in. Up the Villa. Nik
Leicester are goneI think Hull will stay below us now.
That would be one, just need another 2.
Let's not forget that for most of the first half it was like a top eight side against a championship team. The gap was huge. Bacuna was in constant space. Benteke and gabby were getting a run on the defence at every opportunity. Grealish was repeatedly linking in with good movement
None of that was the problem. That element of the performance was very good. It was the other stuff that just didn't work
QPR have an awful run in now
Let's not forget that for most of the first half it was like a top eight side against a championship team. The gap was huge. Bacuna was in constant space. Benteke and gabby were getting a run on the defence at every opportunity. Grealish was repeatedly linking in with good movement
Is it as horrendous as losing and being in the bottom 3?That is a fucking horrendous performance second half and terrible result.
It's a more than useful point.
Leicester are goneI think Hull will stay below us now.
That would be one, just need another 2.
QPR have an awful run in now
Far too many, it's our hallmark.Let's not forget that for most of the first half it was like a top eight side against a championship team. The gap was huge. Bacuna was in constant space. Benteke and gabby were getting a run on the defence at every opportunity. Grealish was repeatedly linking in with good movement
I agree (apart from the first few minutes), but isn't that just our problem in a nutshell?
How many times this season have we matched a great half with a truly abysmal one?
Too many.
Should have been a comfortable 3 points at half-time. Cole wrong person top bring on. Shit I'll post better tomorrow. its a quarter past one and I've got to be up up in a few hours. Could have been a lot better. Could have ended up a lot fecking worse. Wasn't impressed by Sherwood's substitutions after QPR changed thing early doors. And no-one on posts for corners? Well, if your steady at the back okay, i'd agree. But, we're not.
I notice Clarks getting loads of abuse on Twitter. Granted tonight wasn't his best game, but rather unfair given he's been immense this season.
Okore, Clark, Lawton and Hutton need to be our back 4 when available, with Given in goal.
I think Hull will stay below us now.
That would be one, just need another 2.
Things could get a whole lot worse tomorrow night if liverpool win.
Just got home thanks to Legion. Well, that was interesting. On the one hand i'm pissed off we didn't win, on the other i'm relieved we didn't lose.
First half we played some lovely stuff going forward, unlucky to be only 2-1 at HT. Even then though it was obvious Richardson was getting roasted. Second half we were all over the place. So many problems were of our own making. Sanchez did the best NRC impression i've ever win. Win the ball, give it away, win it back again. Benteke showed what we know he can do, top class at times.
Disappointed that Sherwood couldn't see the weakness of Richardson and change it. Even more disappointed in The Holte. Richardson had a mare, but really, booing your own player each time he gets the ball? Fucking wankers.
Why did he drop Okore for Vlaar?
It has to be Clark and Okore from here on in.
Things could get a whole lot worse tomorrow night if liverpool win.
I think Hull will stay below us now.
That would be one, just need another 2.
Leicester, Burnley.
I heard the booing and wasnt sure who it as against. Agree, booing your own players is disgraceful.
Guzan - Did ok, very average at close range shots though.
Richardson - Poor, looked completely lost for their 2nd
Vlaar - Looked dodgy, poor positioning for all their goals.
Clark - Not getting booked is on his mind, looked nervous, after spurs all change.
Bacuna - Not a RB, too slow, needs a better end product for me.
Delph - Better than Saturday, poor defending for their 1st though
Cleverley - Played very well apart from one bad pass.
Sanchez - Broke up everything in the 1st, very dodgy 2nd.
Grealish - Did well in-play but too many poor corners
Agbonlahor - Overall poor, did slot the ball for the 2nd but anyone there would of done that.
Benteke - MOTM
In other news this is my 10,000th post, my wife is right I do need to get out more.
In other news this is my 10,000th post, my wife is right I do need to get out more.No stay in and keep posting😊
Guzan - Did ok, very average at close range shots though.
Richardson - Poor, looked completely lost for their 2nd
Vlaar - Looked dodgy, poor positioning for all their goals.
Clark - Not getting booked is on his mind, looked nervous, after spurs all change.
Bacuna - Not a RB, too slow, needs a better end product for me.
Delph - Better than Saturday, poor defending for their 1st though
Cleverley - Played very well apart from one bad pass.
Sanchez - Broke up everything in the 1st, very dodgy 2nd.
Grealish - Did well in-play but too many poor corners
Agbonlahor - Overall poor, did slot the ball for the 2nd but anyone there would of done that.
Benteke - MOTM
I'd agree with most of that. I thought Bacuna got forward well, Sanchez did well except for 30 minutes after the break and Benteke is the most complete striker I've ever seen at Villa. If we can get another full season out of him you could be looking at Gareth Bale money.
Things could get a whole lot worse tomorrow night if liverpool win.
Guzan - Did ok, very average at close range shots though.
Richardson - Poor, looked completely lost for their 2nd
Vlaar - Looked dodgy, poor positioning for all their goals.
Clark - Not getting booked is on his mind, looked nervous, after spurs all change.
Bacuna - Not a RB, too slow, needs a better end product for me.
Delph - Better than Saturday, poor defending for their 1st though
Cleverley - Played very well apart from one bad pass.
Sanchez - Broke up everything in the 1st, very dodgy 2nd.
Grealish - Did well in-play but too many poor corners
Agbonlahor - Overall poor, did slot the ball for the 2nd but anyone there would of done that.
Benteke - MOTM
I'd agree with most of that. I thought Bacuna got forward well, Sanchez did well except for 30 minutes after the break and Benteke is the most complete striker I've ever seen at Villa. If we can get another full season out of him you could be looking at Gareth Bale money.
£80m for Benteke? I doubt it. A good, but not world class, player.
Agreed he was superb tonight, but to command a fee similar to Suarez he would have to be far more consistent.
Other than the last 6 games he has been missing for most of the season.
We would be down without him
Things could get a whole lot worse tomorrow night if liverpool win.
Things could get a whole lot worse tomorrow night if liverpool win.
What's that got to do with anything?
We definitely need to get our two fullbacks fit. Bacuna and Richardson couldn't defend for toffee.
I lost count the amount of times Sanchez lost the ball. Losing possession so easily and so much is one of the main reasons this team loses so many games.
Two wins a a draw will probably keep us up.
Easy with hindsight but why play Richardson instead of Lowton. Phillips is renowned for his pace.
Just got home thanks to Legion. Well, that was interesting. On the one hand i'm pissed off we didn't win, on the other i'm relieved we didn't lose.
First half we played some lovely stuff going forward, unlucky to be only 2-1 at HT. Even then though it was obvious Richardson was getting roasted. Second half we were all over the place. So many problems were of our own making. Sanchez did the best NRC impression i've ever win. Win the ball, give it away, win it back again. Benteke showed what we know he can do, top class at times.
Disappointed that Sherwood couldn't see the weakness of Richardson and change it. Even more disappointed in The Holte. Richardson had a mare, but really, booing your own player each time he gets the ball? Fucking wankers.
We definitely need to get our two fullbacks fit. Bacuna and Richardson couldn't defend for toffee.
I lost count the amount of times Sanchez lost the ball. Losing possession so easily and so much is one of the main reasons this team loses so many games.
Two wins a a draw will probably keep us up.
I mentioned earlier it was like he turned into NRC. Won the ball a lot, promptly gave it back away a lot.
Went through some emotions tonight!
Just wanted to congratulate their No. 7, I'm assuming it was Ronaldo as that was who Richardson made him look like. I'll be happy not to see that chump playing in a Villa shirt ever again.
Not a Cleverley fan but thought he had a great game tonight.
This is going to Burnley at home. Better get the tickets now and book some time with a psychotherapist.
Everybody has their own opinion of a match but the first 5 or 6 pages of posts after the game are usually all over the place with many posters seemingly having their own agendas on poor performances. Sorry but that is how I see it.
It was essential that we did not lose tonight. A win would have taken a lot of pressure off us but mistakes cost us. We are really struggling with injuries and Sherwood is just about putting out a competitive team. It is showing in available substitutes. It was crying out for somebody to replace a tiring Grealish and grab the midfield and pull it together or even Sinclair to take the game to QPR again in the 2nd half. The legacy of Lambert is that we do not have that battling midfield player in the club.
We need Clark to go the next two matches without a booking as he has been one of the few players that has shown the determination to not give up. We can all come up with formations when there is nothing riding on it but the manager has to make the decisions and live or die by them. The 3 players he replaced had to be replaced. Grealish had run out of steam physically and mentally as shown by his lack of positional discipline, Bacuna was injured and Cleverly was also tiring which was probably due to not being fully match fit. Others could have been replaced but those 3 were clearly the obvious ones. We could have gone 3 at the back but it is a formation we have not tried for a long time.
Every point is vital for us and every point dropped by the other teams at the bottom is the same so I am not too disheartened by the result, particularly as we could easily have folded after their third goal.
Everybody has their own opinion of a match but the first 5 or 6 pages of posts after the game are usually all over the place with many posters seemingly having their own agendas on poor performances. Sorry but that is how I see it.
It was essential that we did not lose tonight. A win would have taken a lot of pressure off us but mistakes cost us. We are really struggling with injuries and Sherwood is just about putting out a competitive team. It is showing in available substitutes. It was crying out for somebody to replace a tiring Grealish and grab the midfield and pull it together or even Sinclair to take the game to QPR again in the 2nd half. The legacy of Lambert is that we do not have that battling midfield player in the club.
We need Clark to go the next two matches without a booking as he has been one of the few players that has shown the determination to not give up. We can all come up with formations when there is nothing riding on it but the manager has to make the decisions and live or die by them. The 3 players he replaced had to be replaced. Grealish had run out of steam physically and mentally as shown by his lack of positional discipline, Bacuna was injured and Cleverly was also tiring which was probably due to not being fully match fit. Others could have been replaced but those 3 were clearly the obvious ones. We could have gone 3 at the back but it is a formation we have not tried for a long time.
Every point is vital for us and every point dropped by the other teams at the bottom is the same so I am not too disheartened by the result, particularly as we could easily have folded after their third goal.
Easy with hindsight but why play Richardson instead of Lowton. Phillips is renowned for his pace.
I think you've answered your own question there - Lowton is slower than Barry on a canal barge.
I'm starting to warm to Grealish as well now. Still a bit too casual but he turns away from defenders like they're not there and creates space. I'd start him at Spurs.
Concrete Ron? More like putty Ron. He is not interested in the slightest. I saw him at birmingham airport in October "when we played man c at home" he was supposed to be injured with a calf strain. Well he looked ok when he jogged into the airport terminal to collect some friends. He should have been a VP supporting the team. The sooner he leaves the better.
Things could get a whole lot worse tomorrow night if liverpool win.
Should have expected that after being accused by steward 47 in the upper north of pinching seats! I go every game with 3 boys and bought 3 extra for daughter wife and dad....she also told me I have on occasions brought adults in too sit in my kids seats! Unbelievable. If that's how stewards of the club treat a st holder x 4 who travel 200 miles a game....unbelievable. totally ruined my game....until 10 mins....letter to the club tomorrowWas it that git I fall out with ?
Aston Villa: Disappointing not to win after we dominated, says Tim Sherwood
Boss frustrated after Villa forced to battle back for a point against QPR despite strong first half performance
23:13, 7 April 2015
By Gregg Evans
Christian Benteke saved Aston Villa’s skin with a superb hat-trick in Tuesday night’s 3-3 draw with Queens Park Rangers - but that wasn’t enough to please Tim Sherwood.
The bouncy boss cut a frustrated figure after an emotionally-charged game in which he felt his side dropped two valuable points.
Villa were 2-1 up at the break after Matt Phillips’ goal was cancelled out but second half strikes from Clint Hill and Charlie Austin almost gave QPR all three points until Benteke intervened.
“When you dominate a football match like that it’s disappointing not to win," Sherwood said.
“The referee should have stopped it at half time!
“We dropped off after the break after really sticking it on them in the first half.
“It was inevitable that we would fatigue in the second half so in the end we’re grateful of Christian.
“It could be a vital point in the end.”
Villa showed incredible attacking intent in the first half and created chance after chance.
“I can’t understand how they only scored 12 goals before I came,” added Sherwood.
“It’s incredible really.”
That they couldn’t wrap up the game is a clear indication as to why they are struggling down the bottom of the table, though.
On most other days a Benteke hat-trick would be enough to secure the win but having the striker among the goals again will help going forward.
“He’s a good player in a rich vein of form,” said Sherwood.
“It doesn’t come much better than that.
“If we can shore it up at the back that will help because there were a lot of good positives to take.”
QPR boss Chris Ramsey admitted that he, too, was disappointed to drop two points having taken the lead so late in the game.
He said: “Before the game if someone said you will get four points out of the last two games (Villa and Albion) I would have taken it.
“But based on how we played I am disappointed that we haven’t been able to get ourselves above the line.
“We showed that we are more than capable of doing it.
“The teams usually at the bottom do have defensive frailties and they were obvious, even though we did buck up our ideas.
“All in all I’m disappointed but in the cold light of day I would have probably taken the four points.”
Lady...with purple short hair....Yeah,she is like Thatcher and her silver haired mate,they forget we are customers.
Concrete Ron? More like putty Ron. He is not interested in the slightest. I saw him at birmingham airport in October "when we played man c at home" he was supposed to be injured with a calf strain. Well he looked ok when he jogged into the airport terminal to collect some friends. He should have been a VP supporting the team. The sooner he leaves the better. Along with many other players who are not good enough. Poor management from the top has got us into this position. Not sure we will stay up now. We are yet again relying on other teams to slip up.
Very very sad times indeed.
Although I think there's a big difference between being able to jog to the airport and being fit enough to play top flight football, I agree about Vlaar, I don't know why he played him instead of Okore.
He just looks fucking half arsed to me.
Given that Sherwood has talked about having to rush players back I wonder if Richardson was fit tonight.We were saying all the way through the first half that Richardson didn't look fit and expected Lowton to sub on for him at half time. Even Baker would have been a better option.
Our regular full backs in and we'd have waltzed that, superb first half going forward, more than a bit iffy going backward.
On song we really are so much better than those around us, we cant keep fucking up, can we?
I'm starting to warm to Grealish as well now. Still a bit too casual but he turns away from defenders like they're not there and creates space. I'd start him at Spurs.
Our regular full backs in and we'd have waltzed that, superb first half going forward, more than a bit iffy going backward.
On song we really are so much better than those around us, we cant keep fucking up, can we?
Guzan - Did ok, very average at close range shots though.
Richardson - Poor, looked completely lost for their 2nd
Vlaar - Looked dodgy, poor positioning for all their goals.
Clark - Not getting booked is on his mind, looked nervous, after spurs all change.
Bacuna - Not a RB, too slow, needs a better end product for me.
Delph - Better than Saturday, poor defending for their 1st though
Cleverley - Played very well apart from one bad pass.
Sanchez - Broke up everything in the 1st, very dodgy 2nd.
Grealish - Did well in-play but too many poor corners
Agbonlahor - Overall poor, did slot the ball for the 2nd but anyone there would of done that.
Benteke - MOTM
I'd agree with most of that. I thought Bacuna got forward well, Sanchez did well except for 30 minutes after the break and Benteke is the most complete striker I've ever seen at Villa. If we can get another full season out of him you could be looking at Gareth Bale money.
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Whilst distracting, I am now 100% cheesed off with Sir Tim's histrionics. :'(
Is there no 'technical area' anymore ? He's halfway to the Holte, making sure the TV is on him as he 'celebrates' or copies his mate Ramsay's more poised demeanor, when we go behind.
He sure is a likeable bloke, kind of a raggamuffin or mudlark imo....but not a future manager of stature....here or anywhere else.
If I can swear?.... Tim seems a thinner version of Barry Fry.
I've made my mind up about him now. A cameo performance as a Manager ....BUYT.... we need to support, because he has wrung a few percentage points from the squad he inherited....
His tactics and set-ups, I think are from "Barry-Fry-Land" [spit]
Not an intellectual in terms of football, but a TV-grabber, and eventually he may become a figure of fun for the journos. Linekar has already started the jokes. :'(
Tim's lack of 'nous' and his ego will drag us down. In terms of respect.
We will be associated with a "clown"...work that out Mr Fox.
:(
This manager is a clueless chancer
I would like to disagree but .....This manager is a clueless chancer
Exactly. Please can we get a real manager in the summer?
Whilst distracting, I am now 100% cheesed off with Sir Tim's histrionics. :'(
Is there no 'technical area' anymore ? He's halfway to the Holte, making sure the TV is on him as he 'celebrates' or copies his mate Ramsay's more poised demeanor, when we go behind.
He sure is a likeable bloke, kind of a raggamuffin or mudlark imo....but not a future manager of stature....here or anywhere else.
If I can swear?.... Tim seems a thinner version of Barry Fry.
I've made my mind up about him now. A cameo performance as a Manager ....BUYT.... we need to support, because he has wrung a few percentage points from the squad he inherited....
His tactics and set-ups, I think are from "Barry-Fry-Land" [spit]
Not an intellectual in terms of football, but a TV-grabber, and eventually he may become a figure of fun for the journos. Linekar has already started the jokes. :'(
Tim's lack of 'nous' and his ego will drag us down. In terms of respect.
We will be associated with a "clown"...work that out Mr Fox.
:(
What a load of pish.
the thing is if TS cant see how shit we was after 10 mins trying to hold the left side God help us no need to boo the player it should be TS taking the crap
Another night of sleep ruined....That was pretty much what it was like. Second goal annoyed me the most. Never mind defenders on posts, we gave their ageing centre back oceans of space from a corner. Contrast that with our ongoing struggles to ever look like scoring a headed goal from a corner.
At half-time it sounded as though there was only going to be one winner. With 10 minutes to go I'd have bitten your hand off for a point so happy that we showed some resilience but having seen the goals the defending was atrocious. I was amazed to hear that Richardson was playing and Vlaar too to be honest. The first QPR goal was primary school defending. The second - don't we put people on the posts? The third - my dad would have slaughtered me when I was a kid for the tackle Richardson 'attempted'.
We're still deep in the poo. Every team below us seems capable of a 'shock' result every now and then - we could do with one or two of those ourselves. I really hope there is nothing riding on the Burnley game in the last weekend - let's get it all done nice and early please Villa!
Tim Sherwoods lack of changes during games has cost us points again here
The back four has cost us points all season.
Richardson for their second, jesus fucking christ, just stood there, asleep.
I don't know what Lowton did wrong to be left out and I don't know why Grealish was taken off.
Cleverley was dreadful.
It's funny how people see things differently, I thought that Cleverley had for the most part a very good game, with several high quality attacking moments. Sanchez and Richardson were dire. Grealish did well, I thought.
Indeed I think if Grealish wasn't a Villa youngster he wouldn't be getting so much praise tonight. I thought he was pretty wasteful and I thought Cole offered more. I think Grealish will be good in time, but didn't think he did a great deal tonight.
I'm not sure about garbage. Frustrating is probably the word.
We were very wasteful in attack. Other than benteke I'm struggling did green have any real saves to make ?
I had made up my mind that a draw would be bearable before the game - a defeat would have been a disaster - so was quite happy after being 3-2 down late on.I agree. Three points would have been lovely, but the most important thing was making sure that QPR didn't get them.
Green saved from grealish when he should have scored
Gabby and benteke went close with headers in the first half too
And we scored three times
I just don't see the argument that our problems were at that end of the pitch. If we had a decent defence we'd have strolled that game
Green saved from grealish when he should have scored
Gabby and benteke went close with headers in the first half too
And we scored three times
I just don't see the argument that our problems were at that end of the pitch. If we had a decent defence we'd have strolled that game
I think we had problems in midfield as well. If we could have had Westwood on instead of Sanchez we might not have lost control of the match to the same extent.
We were very wasteful in attack. Other than benteke I'm struggling did green have any real saves to make ?
I don't think I've ever seen a Villa team give the ball away as much as this one does. Sanchez is the worst culprit. He's such a frustrating player - he wins the ball then loses it and we're back to square one again. Meanwhile you tear your hair out watching it in the stands.
We were very wasteful in attack. Other than benteke I'm struggling did green have any real saves to make ?
Twice from Grealish , his freekick and from Benteke's cross into the box.
I don't think I've ever seen a Villa team give the ball away as much as this one does. Sanchez is the worst culprit. He's such a frustrating player - he wins the ball then loses it and we're back to square one again. Meanwhile you tear your hair out watching it in the stands.
That's exactly it. You really want to like Sanchez, because he does do lots of good things - the tackle-pass which led to Benteke's second was great - but he then goes and messes it up again. Perhaps next year he'll be able to cut those out. We'll see.
Watch Richardson here. Especially in the replay shot. Look at Richardson's position, lack of attention, and gaping space at the far post. Pathetic.
https://vine.co/v/eBMuzOuKqzO
Only just seen Austin's foul on Richardson from last night. Lucky to not get a red for that.
Only just seen Austin's foul on Richardson from last night. Lucky to not get a red for that.
I like to see Refs let the game flow but he never got a grip last night and missed some really blatant fouls.
Only just seen Austin's foul on Richardson from last night. Lucky to not get a red for that.
Add that to the fact that he should have been booked in the first half for deliberate handball.
Deliberate handball isn't an automatic yellow card. I didn't see the one last night (so have no opinion on whether Austin's should have been or not), but it depends on the context as to whether it's a caution or not.Only just seen Austin's foul on Richardson from last night. Lucky to not get a red for that.
Add that to the fact that he should have been booked in the first half for deliberate handball.
Spot on. He practically caught the ball, and that is deliberate. He should have been yellow carded. The ref let them get away with murder last night.
And another run and shot from Grealish, though the save was fairly routine.We were very wasteful in attack. Other than benteke I'm struggling did green have any real saves to make ?
Twice from Grealish , his freekick and from Benteke's cross into the box.
Deliberate handball isn't an automatic yellow card. I didn't see the one last night (so have no opinion on whether Austin's should have been or not), but it depends on the context as to whether it's a caution or not.Only just seen Austin's foul on Richardson from last night. Lucky to not get a red for that.
Add that to the fact that he should have been booked in the first half for deliberate handball.
Spot on. He practically caught the ball, and that is deliberate. He should have been yellow carded. The ref let them get away with murder last night.
Quite possibly most, but not all.Deliberate handball isn't an automatic yellow card. I didn't see the one last night (so have no opinion on whether Austin's should have been or not), but it depends on the context as to whether it's a caution or not.Only just seen Austin's foul on Richardson from last night. Lucky to not get a red for that.
Add that to the fact that he should have been booked in the first half for deliberate handball.
Spot on. He practically caught the ball, and that is deliberate. He should have been yellow carded. The ref let them get away with murder last night.
The rules state it's a caution if a player 'handles the ball to prevent an opponent gaining possession or developing an attack'
I think that would cover most instances of people deliberately handling the ball.
I like to see Refs let the game flow but he never got a grip last night and missed some really blatant fouls.
Another thing i've remembered whilst reading about the handball is the back pass to the keeper in the first half. My mate reckons it came off his knee.
Another thing i've remembered whilst reading about the handball is the back pass to the keeper in the first half. My mate reckons it came off his knee.
And in amongst all this, Benteke scored a hat-trick...
I actually thought Guzan was at fault for the first goal. He should have claimed the first cross that came in.
No Delph was ball watching and lost his man, Guzan would of been in no mans land if he came because Zamora's cross had some bend on it, this all came because Richardson didn't block the first cross, then Bacuna with one of the worst clearing headers you'll see fluffed it, then Delph miles away
Mistakes are costing us big time.
It was definitely deliberate. I'm pretty sure both his hands were on the ball and he almost caught it.It's not a case of non-deliberate handball = no yellow card and deliberate handball = yellow card.
No Delph was ball watching and lost his man, Guzan would of been in no mans land if he came because Zamora's cross had some bend on it, this all came because Richardson didn't block the first cross, then Bacuna with one of the worst clearing headers you'll see fluffed it, then Delph was miles away
Mistakes are costing us big time. If we did just the basics last night properly we would now be 3 points better off.
No Delph was ball watching and lost his man, Guzan would of been in no mans land if he came because Zamora's cross had some bend on it, this all came because Richardson didn't block the first cross, then Bacuna with one of the worst clearing headers you'll see fluffed it, then Delph was miles away
Mistakes are costing us big time. If we did just the basics last night properly we would now be 3 points better off.
Guzan doesn't look the commanding figure of the last 2 seasons at the moment. Personally, I'd be more confident with Shay during the run inI like Given in the sense he really shouts and organises the defence. His experience could prove invaluable in the run in. Guzan should not be undroppable .
No Delph was ball watching and lost his man, Guzan would of been in no mans land if he came because Zamora's cross had some bend on it, this all came because Richardson didn't block the first cross, then Bacuna with one of the worst clearing headers you'll see fluffed it, then Delph was miles away
Mistakes are costing us big time. If we did just the basics last night properly we would now be 3 points better off.
No Delph was ball watching and lost his man, Guzan would of been in no mans land if he came because Zamora's cross had some bend on it, this all came because Richardson didn't block the first cross, then Bacuna with one of the worst clearing headers you'll see fluffed it, then Delph was miles away
Mistakes are costing us big time. If we did just the basics last night properly we would now be 3 points better off.
Two.
No Delph was ball watching and lost his man, Guzan would of been in no mans land if he came because Zamora's cross had some bend on it, this all came because Richardson didn't block the first cross, then Bacuna with one of the worst clearing headers you'll see fluffed it, then Delph was miles away
Mistakes are costing us big time. If we did just the basics last night properly we would now be 3 points better off.
Two.
He may mean 3 on QPR, we'd have two extra and they'd have one less.
You could say the same for QPR and Austin, Burnley and Ings, Sunderland and Defoe.Quite - our second highest scorer this season has scored more than the second highest scorer for any of the teams around us.
Guzan doesn't look the commanding figure of the last 2 seasons at the moment. Personally, I'd be more confident with Shay during the run in
You could say the same for QPR and Austin, Burnley and Ings, Sunderland and Defoe.I agree, but we should have more goal threat from players like Gabby, Delph, N'Zog, Westwood, Grealish, Also Vlaar and Clark from corners/free kicks.
If we get a point at Spurs I'll eat the hat of anyone's choice.
If we get a point at Spurs I'll eat the hat of anyone's choice.crown of thorns? Is that a hat?
If we get a point at Spurs I'll eat the hat of anyone's choice.crown of thorns? Is that a hat?
If we get a point at Spurs I'll eat the hat of anyone's choice.crown of thorns? Is that a hat?
Who cares? If we get a point bring one out with some HP sauce and I'll have a bash at the bugger
Yes, I know that I've put in a few interesting results for us and the other strugglers but, it can be looked at another way - just 2 wins I think would do it for us. ( However, we just don't seem to be able to hold onto a winning position, at the moment, hence I've gone for the draws ). Every other bugger has had at least 1 result they could have only dreamed of so, maybe it's our time!!
Yes, I know that I've put in a few interesting results for us and the other strugglers but, it can be looked at another way - just 2 wins I think would do it for us. ( However, we just don't seem to be able to hold onto a winning position, at the moment, hence I've gone for the draws ). Every other bugger has had at least 1 result they could have only dreamed of so, maybe it's our time!!
Can anyone tell me what our strengths are?
Yes, I know that I've put in a few interesting results for us and the other strugglers but, it can be looked at another way - just 2 wins I think would do it for us. ( However, we just don't seem to be able to hold onto a winning position, at the moment, hence I've gone for the draws ). Every other bugger has had at least 1 result they could have only dreamed of so, maybe it's our time!!
Can anyone tell me what our strengths are?
Guzan doesn't look the commanding figure of the last 2 seasons at the moment. Personally, I'd be more confident with Shay during the run in
Guzan may have failed to come for one cross last night but Given has a career long reputation of not dealing with them well.
However, Brad can't kick for toffee. As much as I dislike the tactic, its no wonder that Lambert and now Sherwood have encouraged the split centre halves tactic to give him a short kick or easy roll out.
the problem is that this means that the midfielders have to drop back a bit as well
Guzan doesn't look the commanding figure of the last 2 seasons at the moment. Personally, I'd be more confident with Shay during the run in
Guzan may have failed to come for one cross last night but Given has a career long reputation of not dealing with them well.
However, Brad can't kick for toffee. As much as I dislike the tactic, its no wonder that Lambert and now Sherwood have encouraged the split centre halves tactic to give him a short kick or easy roll out.
the problem is that this means that the midfielders have to drop back a bit as well
Very true. I would say his kicking at the moment is as bad as Mark Bosnich at his very worst.
Guzan doesn't look the commanding figure of the last 2 seasons at the moment. Personally, I'd be more confident with Shay during the run in
Guzan may have failed to come for one cross last night but Given has a career long reputation of not dealing with them well.
However, Brad can't kick for toffee. As much as I dislike the tactic, its no wonder that Lambert and now Sherwood have encouraged the split centre halves tactic to give him a short kick or easy roll out.
the problem is that this means that the midfielders have to drop back a bit as well
Very true. I would say his kicking at the moment is as bad as Mark Bosnich at his very worst.
Chris Ramsey did his homework by targeting Keiran Richardson at Left back.
He didn't play left back did he ?Chris Ramsey did his homework by targeting Keiran Richardson at Left back.
Well I'd like to know how the hell he knew in advance he'd be playing there because no one else was expecting it.
He did.He seemed to be floating infield to me
And in amongst all this, Benteke scored a hat-trick...
That's the most disappointing thing of all this. Our defensivie fuck ups have meant that what went wrong with the game is getting much more coverage than the brilliant hat-trick Benteke scored. If we'd won we'd all be talking about that.
Vlaar even first half had zero composure, everything was being launched high into the air when he should have been using his brain.
Yes. And if I thought he was "brainless" I wouldn't of said he should be using his brain.Vlaar even first half had zero composure, everything was being launched high into the air when he should have been using his brain.
That was not zero composure in my estimation. He was obeying instructions to hit Benteke early and get him involved in the game and to not fanny about about at the back.
I don't know if you have ever spoken to Vlaar, but he is far from brainless.
Yes. And if I thought he was "brainless" I wouldn't of said he should be using his brain.Vlaar even first half had zero composure, everything was being launched high into the air when he should have been using his brain.
That was not zero composure in my estimation. He was obeying instructions to hit Benteke early and get him involved in the game and to not fanny about about at the back.
I don't know if you have ever spoken to Vlaar, but he is far from brainless.
http://screamer.deadspin.com/god-save-queens-park-rangers-the-most-fun-bad-team-in-1696535615/+billyhaisley
An interesting post Game look at QPR and specifically at what Charlie Austin does well (score goals) and what he doesn't do well (everything else)
I think there's often been a bit of a fallacy at international level with some strikers. We've often been hesitant to play goal poachers in the last 15 odd years. As regulars. We've sometimes tried a big man. We've sometimes put Rooney up top by himself. But you look at Defoe (who granted had more all round quality than Austin does), and he's mostly been a sub over the years.http://screamer.deadspin.com/god-save-queens-park-rangers-the-most-fun-bad-team-in-1696535615/+billyhaisley
An interesting post Game look at QPR and specifically at what Charlie Austin does well (score goals) and what he doesn't do well (everything else)
Having seen him live for the first time on Tuesday, he is nowhere near international class (well in terms of England anyway).