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Title: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: itbrvilla on March 04, 2015, 11:15:57 AM
Right, after giving them a battering which should of left us 3-4 goals ahead by HT, I think we will give them much the same.  I think this will give them real momentum now and think we can do them 3-0.

Tim's had a poke at them again saying they need to improve to stop us getting to Wembley. I have to agree!!!

UTV!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Loxton01 on March 04, 2015, 11:22:10 AM
If Vlaar is fit he should start he needs to show and payback something to this cause. Okore to drop out for him.

I think the fullbacks getting forward are key to push them back so Id play Bacuna in place of the suspended Hutton.

Other than that Id play Given but not do too much else. Perhaps Grealish/Gil over NZog but I wouldn't go in with wholesale changes. I do feel for Gil and he could be a shout for the role at the top of the diamond [if we play that way] but my worry is Albion will dominate him physically.

They have injuries so I wonder if he will start both strikers this time. He never put any subs on and I think he was saving some of them for Saturday. They have no fletcher either who was there best player.

Lets hope we win again but yesterday for me was the game we had to win. Thank fuck we did.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: itbrvilla on March 04, 2015, 11:22:33 AM
Just spotted Hutton has a 2 match ban so will miss the game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: FranzBiberkopf on March 04, 2015, 11:25:12 AM
Not sure.

Will we put out a 'scratch' team with one eye on the Sunderland game? I truly hope not - we need to keep the momentum going.

We certainly need to cut out the daft fouls (Hutton being banned will help with that). There was panic with every freekick/corner slung into our box.

I can't see Pulis changing how they play. He has no other way. That said, they can't possibly play as badly as they did last night (first half certainly).

If we go at them, they're perfectly beatable. Nothing to be scared of from them at all.


Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: itbrvilla on March 04, 2015, 11:27:55 AM
Not sure.

Will we put out a 'scratch' team with one eye on the Sunderland game? I truly hope not - we need to keep the momentum going.

We certainly need to cut out the daft fouls (Hutton being banned will help with that). There was panic with every freekick/corner slung into our box.

I can't see Pulis changing how they play. He has no other way. That said, they can't possibly play as badly as they did last night (first half certainly).

If we go at them, they're perfectly beatable. Nothing to be scared of from them at all.



The only thing that concerns me is the intesnity of our play last night. I wonder how long we can realistically keep that tempo up without burning out the players.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: andyh on March 04, 2015, 11:33:29 AM
Before yesterday, I said I'd be prepared to lose the cup game if we could beat them in the league.
On further consideration.................

Fuck that !!
Less beat them again.

3-1   
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: alan_clarke on March 04, 2015, 11:39:10 AM
Anything we can do now in the cup is a bonus. I hope we don't get too complacent for this tie given how poor the baggies were last night - they'll be up to extract revenge, we need Cleverley and co to match what they did last night.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Des Little on March 04, 2015, 11:39:52 AM
Who'll come in at RB? Bacuna? 
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: pooligan on March 04, 2015, 11:45:03 AM
Bacuna  would be my choice to fill in for hutton
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Monty on March 04, 2015, 11:46:51 AM
Same formation please, we were all over them like a rash in midfield. Would like to see Gil and Grealish given goes in the no. 10 role rather than Zog, though, just to see who suits it better (I think it would be Gil, but let's see).
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Damo70 on March 04, 2015, 11:47:24 AM
Anything we can do now in the cup is a bonus. I hope we don't get too complacent for this tie given how poor the baggies were last night - they'll be up to extract revenge, we need Cleverley and co to match what they did last night.

Glad you mentioned Cleverley. Like most people I haven't had much, if anything at all good to say about him before. But I liked his passionate reaction to the winning goal last night. The cup game will be tasty. We will have our tails up and they will be out for revenge. People who bet on yellow and red cards might be rubbing their hands at this one. It was always likely to be moody with two big derbies in such quick succession.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Damo70 on March 04, 2015, 11:49:17 AM
Bacuna  would be my choice to fill in for hutton

Hopefully we will at least one fit left back so Lowton can switch to the right. I like Bacuna, but not at right back.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on March 04, 2015, 11:55:14 AM
Just spotted Hutton has a 2 match ban so will miss the game.

As long as we've got a fit LB by Saturday, it's not the massive disaster it would be were we playing a side that uses wingers. Their "wide" men seem primarily focused on doubling-up with their own full-back to try to restrict space, rather than looking to get forward themselves. Lowton on his right foot has to be a bonus, we might even win a corner!
Will Tiny Penis be as adventurous as he was last night? Does he know how to "go for it"? Would it matter?
Would it f**k.
A repeat of the first half, please, but with buried chances, then 45 minutes of "Wemberleeeey, Wemberleeeey" will do me nicely.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Jimbo on March 04, 2015, 11:55:58 AM
Fuck the fuckers.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Smoke on March 04, 2015, 11:57:16 AM
Do Red cards & bans collected in FA Cup games count in League games?
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on March 04, 2015, 12:00:22 PM
All domestic cards count as the same thing, whatever competition they're collected in.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Smoke on March 04, 2015, 12:01:35 PM
Poo.

We need to keep a cool head then.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Lambert and Payne on March 04, 2015, 12:10:35 PM
I think Sherwood understands the importance of momentum, a win on Saturday takes us to Wembley and beats our local rivals twice in a week giving the club a huge boost going into a very important Sunderland game next week.

Can't see much changing, if Richardson or Cissoko are back then I'd have thought one of them will start at left back with Lowton swapping over to the right back. However, I'd rather he put Bacuna in at right back and changed as little as possible. Though Insomnia looked threatening and can be utilised. If Albion play a high line again Gabby will destroy them
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Lambert and Payne on March 04, 2015, 12:12:18 PM
No doubts that Albion will set up totally different though and be a lot more attacking. Okore has to start confidentially.

Wouldn't put Vlaar back in the side, doesn't look like his hearts in it for me. Certainly would like to keep Delph as captain.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Small Rodent on March 04, 2015, 12:18:47 PM
It's pretty much a game of poker.

Do WBA attack us, knowing they are vulnerable on the counter attack? Do they do they play the same way as last night, knowing the referee may not be as forgiving?

I liked that our bench last night had replacements in Grealish, Gil, Sinclair and Weimann, that could replace the attackers on the pitch and keep the pressure and tempo up.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Legion on March 04, 2015, 12:24:29 PM
0-0.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Damo70 on March 04, 2015, 12:27:05 PM
1-0 Villa. Pulis concentrates on points and I suspect he played his front two last night knowing they might not be able to play the cup game too.

Which worked out well.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Villa Lew on March 04, 2015, 12:28:12 PM
One result I don't want is a draw. In view of our April fixtures, feel we may need to win our next 2 matches and don't want to go into the Swansea game, having played 120 mins of football a couple of evenings earlier.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: RussellC on March 04, 2015, 12:32:38 PM
The players did get through a lot of work last night, so I wouldn't be surprised to see one or two rested. Potentially Gabby and one of Delph / Clev with Sanchez and either Sinclair/Weimann/Gil coming in.

Otherwise I think it'll be Given for Guzan (with WBA doing likewise with Boaz Myhill), Vlaar for Okore (Vlaar still has a big part to play in the run-in) and I think he'll opt for Bacuna at right-back. Unless McMananaman is available for them they have very little width in the side, so I think he'll be looking for both full-backs to attack.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Chipsticks on March 04, 2015, 12:55:20 PM
Beautiful sight from the online ticketing site.

(http://i.imgur.com/Hv2JKtz.png)
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: PeterWithe on March 04, 2015, 12:58:23 PM
He'd be crackers to rest Gabby after last nights performance, he'll be champing at the bit.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: leylandalbion on March 04, 2015, 12:59:12 PM
Cant wait...7 of my nearest and dearest in L6.  Lets make it shake :D
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Damo70 on March 04, 2015, 12:59:58 PM
The players did get through a lot of work last night, so I wouldn't be surprised to see one or two rested. Potentially Gabby and one of Delph / Clev with Sanchez and either Sinclair/Weimann/Gil coming in.

Otherwise I think it'll be Given for Guzan (with WBA doing likewise with Boaz Myhill), Vlaar for Okore (Vlaar still has a big part to play in the run-in) and I think he'll opt for Bacuna at right-back. Unless McMananaman is available for them they have very little width in the side, so I think he'll be looking for both full-backs to attack.


I don't think we can afford to rest Delph. Gabby has to play in derbies. It's the law.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Chipsticks on March 04, 2015, 01:01:47 PM
The players did get through a lot of work last night, so I wouldn't be surprised to see one or two rested. Potentially Gabby and one of Delph / Clev with Sanchez and either Sinclair/Weimann/Gil coming in.

Otherwise I think it'll be Given for Guzan (with WBA doing likewise with Boaz Myhill), Vlaar for Okore (Vlaar still has a big part to play in the run-in) and I think he'll opt for Bacuna at right-back. Unless McMananaman is available for them they have very little width in the side, so I think he'll be looking for both full-backs to attack.


I don't think we can afford to rest Delph. Gabby has to play in derbies. It's the law.

Genuinely, we can't rest him and Clark, but especially Gabby. I've always though it's vitally important to have players on the pitch who understand what the derby means to the fans, and we've seen for years now how motivated Gabby gets for them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on March 04, 2015, 01:02:36 PM
Bacuna  would be my choice to fill in for hutton

Hopefully we will at least one fit left back so Lowton can switch to the right. I like Bacuna, but not at right back.
Tis what I was thinking too.
Sherwood did say that Cissokho would not be ready for Tuesday...perhaps he will be for Saturday.
I'd keep Bacuna on the bench and use him later.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: RussellC on March 04, 2015, 01:10:38 PM
The players did get through a lot of work last night, so I wouldn't be surprised to see one or two rested. Potentially Gabby and one of Delph / Clev with Sanchez and either Sinclair/Weimann/Gil coming in.

Otherwise I think it'll be Given for Guzan (with WBA doing likewise with Boaz Myhill), Vlaar for Okore (Vlaar still has a big part to play in the run-in) and I think he'll opt for Bacuna at right-back. Unless McMananaman is available for them they have very little width in the side, so I think he'll be looking for both full-backs to attack.


I don't think we can afford to rest Delph. Gabby has to play in derbies. It's the law.

Genuinely, we can't rest him and Clark, but especially Gabby. I've always though it's vitally important to have players on the pitch who understand what the derby means to the fans, and we've seen for years now how motivated Gabby gets for them.

Has there ever been a player to go from 'unpickable' to 'undroppable' as frequently and as as quickly as Gabby?!

In all seriousness, he looked dead on his feet by the end of the game last night. With Sunderland coming up I'd be tempted to bench him and leave him as an impact sub should we need him for the last 20 minutes on Saturday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: villan from luton on March 04, 2015, 01:26:29 PM
Why rest any of the players with the exception of N'Zogbia who is getting back to fitness and Given who plays in cup games? We dont have another game for 7 days so dont see a problem. Want to rub thir noses in it and send them back after a proper drubbing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: darren woolley on March 04, 2015, 01:47:48 PM
I think we will nick this 1-0.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: rob_bridge on March 04, 2015, 01:55:33 PM
No way would I drop Guzan for Given against this bunch of Pullis Neanderthals where the ball comes down with snow on it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 04, 2015, 01:56:49 PM
I don't think we can afford to rest Delph.

I do. Forget resting him, I think Delph has been very lucky to keep his place in the team. I've no idea why he's playing so deep, there were times last night I thought he's switched to playing centre half, he was that deep. If he must play, let's see him further up the pitch where he's great at running at teams. He's a completely different player to the one that normally passes the ball square on the half way line whenever he gets the ball. It's a complete waste of his talent.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: spk on March 04, 2015, 02:02:01 PM
Cant wait...7 of my nearest and dearest in L6.  Lets make it shake :D
Amen to that
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: rob_bridge on March 04, 2015, 02:30:42 PM
1-1 I reckon for this.

Pullis will be having them practicing head tennis ad nauseum until Friday. Except for the 2 who are practicing booting the ball 70 yards at a time
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: eamonn on March 04, 2015, 02:52:55 PM
Legion posted a pic of the rampant lion attacking the bitter bird from the clubs' crests but I can't find it. Can someone re-post it please?
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Legion on March 04, 2015, 02:57:34 PM
(https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11006368_1031559653538259_8245158404846449059_n.jpg?oh=394755cc302e59893a67699feba19ed9&oe=5548C4D1)
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: silhillvilla on March 04, 2015, 03:02:55 PM
-------------Given -----------
Bacuna Okore vlaar Stevens
 
---- Sanchez.     Westwood --

---------- cleverly ------------

Weimann   Benteke.  Gabby
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 04, 2015, 03:06:35 PM
So you'd drop Lowton for someone who plays for Doncaster? And drop Delph? And Clark?
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: The Left Side on March 04, 2015, 03:08:24 PM
1-1 then we'll do them in Smethwick
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 04, 2015, 03:09:29 PM
re whether or not we rotate the team for the cup match, I don't think it's an easy decision to make.

If we get knocked out, it isn't the end of the world, which is one reason he'll be tempted (as all managers are in the circumstances) to change the team, but then again, you have to wonder, confidence is much higher already after last night, even apart from the fact it means a Wembley trip, how much of a confidence booster it'd be to win again on Saturday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 04, 2015, 03:15:32 PM
We don't play again for a week after the cup match. Unless someone has a bad knock I don't see why we should 'rest' anyone. And I wouldn't play Given, this is a Pulis side, set pieces and crosses is what they rely on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Ron Manager on March 04, 2015, 03:16:34 PM
I would start with       Given
                            Lowton  N'zogbia
                              Clark Okore
                      Cleverley Delph Sanchez
                                   Gil
                     Agbonlahor Benteke

   for the first half at least.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: supertom on March 04, 2015, 03:33:29 PM
I fancy us to win, if we keep up the same intensity. Certainly that seems to be the style Sherwood is going for. Lots of pressing, and get it forward quickly. We controlled midfield and we gave their backline, Lescott in particular, a torrid time. That will play on their minds. VP will be buzzing.

It's not often I've fancied a win this season, but I do on saturday.

2-1 again. Benteke, Grealish.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: DB on March 04, 2015, 04:11:06 PM
Yesterday was what we needed both for the points and the lift. Sat is a bonus...looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on March 04, 2015, 05:26:06 PM
I reckon they will nick it. I won't be that gutted if we can get something out of the next league game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: montague on March 04, 2015, 06:04:30 PM
I reckon they will nick it. I won't be that gutted if we can get something out of the next league game.

Ill be gutted - i'm not getting any younger and I want to see us win the FA cup. Just once will do for the set.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 04, 2015, 06:05:09 PM
re whether or not we rotate the team for the cup match, I don't think it's an easy decision to make.

If we get knocked out, it isn't the end of the world, which is one reason he'll be tempted (as all managers are in the circumstances) to change the team, but then again, you have to wonder, confidence is much higher already after last night, even apart from the fact it means a Wembley trip, how much of a confidence booster it'd be to win again on Saturday.

It's all about momentum now. Another win, and while it would be in the cup, the rest of the season looks easier. Off course it isn't and the games still need to be played but the sense of optimism and renewed belief just makes the world seem a better place. The players when they train again will be full of energy and smiles and I imagine Sherwood will want to keep that feeling going by not making too many changes. I can see at most (including Hutton) 2 or 3, but the core, especially the strike pairing will remain in place. In fact if he kept the exact line up from last night minus Hutton it wouldn't surprise me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: brontebilly on March 04, 2015, 06:16:46 PM
Definitely think we need to rotate a bit apart from at right back. Vlaar for Okore would be no harm, same for Given replacing Guzan and Grealish or Gil for Nzogbia too.

West Brom will defend a lot deeper at the weekend to counteract Gabby's pace so we will need someone else to step up I suspect.

Thought James Morrison had a good second half for them last night and I expect they will use him to target Lowton more.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: curiousorange on March 04, 2015, 07:16:49 PM
I've always thought that Pulis would use yesterday as a glorified scouting exercise, playing for the draw in order to try and spot weaknesses. I also think he's banking on the derby factor and the necessity for three points to have completely drained us. It'll be a case of after the Lord Mayor's show.

That said, I don't think he banked on so many players improving at once for Villa. It'll be a different game on Saturday - has to be, if Pulis has anything about him - but if I was Sherwood, I'd be playing on that Wembley factor, that sense of making people happy. They know they can best that lot, they can enjoy themselves. I really want to see us at Wembley again, so I hope Sherwood has them relaxed and confident.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: silhillvilla on March 04, 2015, 07:47:13 PM
So you'd drop Lowton for someone who plays for Doncaster? And drop Delph? And Clark?
I think he will rotate and rest a few legs for Sunderland.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: aj2k77 on March 04, 2015, 07:52:43 PM
You can't rest players in an FA Cup quarter final.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Clampy on March 04, 2015, 07:54:32 PM
I don't think he'll rest anyone either, not a game away from Wembley.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Legion on March 04, 2015, 07:59:16 PM
I think he will play Given instead of Guzan.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: KevinEaton on March 04, 2015, 08:01:51 PM
I think Sherwood always planned to rotate players. He has done this already in the 3 games he has been in charge and I'm sure I read a quote somewhere from him saying that the players know if they are out the team one week they could well be back in next week.

The high intensity play we keep talking about will require some rotation to keep people fresh especially after his comments last night about the players not quite being as fit as he would like for the type of play he wants. I'd expect to see Gil and Sinclair play a part at some point in this one.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 04, 2015, 08:16:37 PM
Rest players for a QF when we don't play for a week. Jeeze.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: andyh on March 04, 2015, 09:51:41 PM
You can't rest players in an FA Cup quarter final.
Precisely!
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Nastylee on March 04, 2015, 09:55:08 PM
A draw wouldn't surprise me. Only way I can see them winning is an ugly 1-0 but if we score first I cannot see us losing the game. If Pulis changes tactics then it might be open but I think that will depend on the fitness of their forwards. Expect Sessignon (sp) to come if for the £10m bloke and they'll flood the midfield.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Dave on March 04, 2015, 09:56:33 PM
Fletcher is cup-tied for them, which is good.

He was barely noticeable last night, but apparently he's been their best player since he signed.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: silhillvilla on March 04, 2015, 09:59:51 PM
Rest players for a QF when we don't play for a week. Jeeze.
That's a fair point actually.
Winning needs to become a habit again.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: nigel on March 04, 2015, 10:18:02 PM
I can't see why the clamour to drop CN'Z.
I've been his biggest critic since he arrived, but, his cameo as a sub at Newcastle and his hour on Tuesday warrant his inclusion in the starting 11 this Saturday.
Give him an hour on Saturday then replace with either Gil or Grealish.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on March 04, 2015, 10:27:27 PM
Fletcher is cup-tied for them, which is good.

He was barely noticeable last night, but apparently he's been their best player since he signed.
He did a lot of good stuff pretty quietly.
His confidence on the ball and the ease with which he knocked it about stood out for me.
I think they will miss him on Saturday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: AV82EC on March 04, 2015, 10:31:28 PM
Fletcher is cup-tied for them, which is good.

He was barely noticeable last night, but apparently he's been their best player since he signed.
He did a lot of good stuff pretty quietly.
His confidence on the ball and the ease with which he knocked it about stood out for me.
I think they will miss him on Saturday.

Tidy on the ball but typical ex-United in the refs face the whole game moaning about everything.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: silhillvilla on March 04, 2015, 10:32:16 PM
Hopefully Foster will be a fumbling wreck again .
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: passport1 on March 04, 2015, 10:41:50 PM
Can't see there being many changes apart from Hutton. We have struggled to find a winning team for long enough this season so I dont think he wil want to tinker with it now.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: nigel on March 04, 2015, 10:45:37 PM
Given's the 'Cup Keeper'
Hutton's suspended.

Those would be my only two changes
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 04, 2015, 10:50:16 PM
If Foster plays the early gameplan should be to attack him long range and get crosses in so Benteke gets stuck into him.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: CJ on March 04, 2015, 11:18:28 PM
Think we'll miss Hutton - he's been a driving force down the right all season and he's defended well too. I've gone for a draw.

Hopefully, unlike last night, we might actually get a corner (or two). Speaking of which, why is it that all Pulis' sides touch the ball with their hand just before they take a corner? Doesn't seem to change the nature of the corner (they're all exactly the same, and, to be fair, often effective), so is it just to wind the opposition up like it winds me up?
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Gregorys Boy on March 04, 2015, 11:29:21 PM
Hope this doesn't turn into the calm after the storm.

Last night was a big boast.  But this is a totally different game and is going to be very tricky.  Think Bacuna has to play just because he gives us a bit more of a purpose and some added pace.  And think we should at least start Grealish even if he doesn't play the whole 90 minutes.

Have a bad feeling this might end a draw which would make it hard for us to get through.  1-1. Gabby again for us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 04, 2015, 11:53:45 PM
It might off course and we don't know until we play a few games in a row after a win. Lambert could never put together anything after a win. Rarely did we win consecutive games of any significance under him. Sherwood wants to properly push on and not look back, so he'll a sustained period of good results from now to the end of the season. We'll see what he's made of.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Gregorys Boy on March 04, 2015, 11:55:54 PM
It might off course and we don't know until we play a few games in a row after a win. Lambert could never put together anything after a win. Rarely did we win consecutive games of any significance under him. Sherwood wants to properly push on and not look back, so he'll a sustained period of good results from now to the end of the season. We'll see what he's made of.

It wouldn't suprise me if that happened, but Cup matches are a different matter.  West Brom will be fired up to even the score on Saturday of that I have no doubt.  Until we make the semis I am refusing to get too excited about our cup prospects.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: glasses on March 05, 2015, 12:14:45 AM
Playing Given is suicidal in my eyes. As we all concluded their lot are the new Pulis anti football mob right now. Lots of set pieces, big physical players. Given was great vs Leicester, but I'd play Guzan for this.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: DeKuip on March 05, 2015, 12:54:58 AM
We can't expect to win just by offering the same again and have to have a surprise up our sleeve. I'd love to see Gil come in at the head of the diamond, he could frighten the life out of them when they'll have been preparing all week on stopping Gabby and Benteke.
One thing's for sure the opposition will be better this time, they look to grind out points in the league but have played with a bit more freedom in the cup. I wouldn't be surprised to see McManaman in to exploit our full-back problems.
It's probably the most evenly-balanced derby we've had in many a year with an equal chance on all three outcomes I reckon.

Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: tomd2103 on March 05, 2015, 01:34:44 AM
No doubts that Albion will set up totally different though and be a lot more attacking. Okore has to start confidentially.

Wouldn't put Vlaar back in the side, doesn't look like his hearts in it for me. Certainly would like to keep Delph as captain.

I genuinely can't see it.  Did you see their bench on Tuesday - it was really poor and they haven't got many options.  They were so slow in midfield and at the back, that if they did try and attack, they would be seriously exposed, especially in the full-back areas.  I think last night will have impacted on them because their only way of playing was found out and I can't see how they can change in a short space of time.  I expect them to be more physical and cynical on Saturday though.   

As for us, we need the same energy levels as last night and try get behind them as often as possible.  I would bring Vlaar back alongside Clark if fit, as Okore did look a little jittery at times (I would personally maybe even consider shifting Okore to RB).  Cut out the needless fouls in our half and try and limit the amount of corners we concede as well.  After watching the goals again, I noticed that Gabby was marking Lescott of the corner they scored from - surely that must change.       
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Matt Collins on March 05, 2015, 06:52:46 AM
I agree having got some momentum this is a great opportunity to maintain momentum

Albions lack of width means this is an ideal game for lowton, ideally at right back. But I thought he was great at left back

I think the fuss over grealish has been over the top. He did ok. I thought nzogbia was good.

Benteke and okore were poor and their form is a concern. As is Clark being one booking from a two game ban

Given - lowton vlaar Clark Richardson - cleverley Westwood delph - nzogbia - benteke gabby

Guzan okore bacuna Sanchez Gil grealish Weimann
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: aj2k77 on March 05, 2015, 08:15:33 AM
I expect Tony Penis to try and get Delap and Crouch in as emergency loans for the weekend.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: aj2k77 on March 05, 2015, 08:16:13 AM
Oh and a few extra hand towels are probably being ordered as we speak in case it rains.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Ads on March 05, 2015, 08:17:38 AM
Judging by Pulis comments that he was "about to be delighted with a point", I suspect he will set up more or less the same and hope for a replay.

Sessengon will come in for Brown I suspect.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: john e on March 05, 2015, 08:24:08 AM
If I was Pulis I would bombard Given with crosses and set piece balls into his area,

He's a great shot stopper as his wonder save in the last round proved,but his weakness is staying nailed to his line,
 I am a bit worried about him v Albion if I'm honest
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: RussellC on March 05, 2015, 09:08:57 AM
If I was Pulis I would bombard Given with crosses and set piece balls into his area,

He's a great shot stopper as his wonder save in the last round proved,but his weakness is staying nailed to his line,
 I am a bit worried about him v Albion if I'm honest

To be honest, I think Guzan has been regressing when it comes to controlling his area. There were a couple of times on Tuesday night when I thought his starting position was too deep and, as a result, he wasn't able to come and collect through balls that he should have been doing. I also can't remember the last time that he came and either caught or punched a corner.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: pooligan on March 05, 2015, 09:17:29 AM
As mentioned in the thread earlier,looking at our fixtures in April a draw is something we do not want.I would keep the same team minus Hutton and go all out for it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Tom_Mc9? on March 05, 2015, 09:23:08 AM
Looking forward to it. What a change to the feeling pre-Hull City game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: FranzBiberkopf on March 05, 2015, 09:36:58 AM
Quote
If I was Pulis I would bombard Given with crosses and set piece balls into his area,

We need to cut out the daft fouls on Saturday. Pulis will instruct them to go down at the slightest contact, just like he did on Tuesday.

Thats what infuriated me about Hutton on Tuesday night with his challenge on Berainho. It wasn't the studs up manner of it, it was the rank stupidity in giving the freekick late in the game from where they could pump the ball in the box.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: jeowje on March 05, 2015, 09:46:25 AM
Do we know that Given will play? Sherwood may not feel bound to that policy (hopefully).

As an aside, my dad is a lifelong Villa fan and has an irrational, almost pathological dislike of Guzan, and blames him for almost all of our troubles! It used to be funny, but sometimes it really grates...
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: UK Redsox on March 05, 2015, 10:33:37 AM
Why are WBA referred to as the "bitters" ?

Remember that I'm a glory-hunting interloper who only started following Villa because of the guarantee of trophies and did not grow up immersed in the local rivalries.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: UK Redsox on March 05, 2015, 10:37:29 AM
Playing Given is suicidal in my eyes. As we all concluded their lot are the new Pulis anti football mob right now. Lots of set pieces, big physical players. Given was great vs Leicester, but I'd play Guzan for this.

I expect that Olsson and every other tall player they have will be brought in for this. For such an experienced keeper, Given has never learned how to deal with crosses
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: DB on March 05, 2015, 10:52:20 AM
Sorry if already mentioned, but no tickets on general sale, you have to have a client ref / booking history. They don't want away fans in the home end I was told. I understand that, but what if you are a Villa fan and want to go as your first match? They must be confident to sell out.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: UK Redsox on March 05, 2015, 11:04:49 AM
Sorry if already mentioned, but no tickets on general sale, you have to have a client ref / booking history. They don't want away fans in the home end I was told. I understand that, but what if you are a Villa fan and want to go as your first match? They must be confident to sell out.

I suspect that the club would live with a couple of thousand empty seats rather than risk away fans getting in the home section
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Richard on March 05, 2015, 11:11:07 AM
Would have been easy surely to let season ticket holders buy one extra seat?
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: rob_bridge on March 05, 2015, 11:21:17 AM
Why are WBA referred to as the "bitters" ?

Remember that I'm a glory-hunting interloper who only started following Villa because of the guarantee of trophies and did not grow up immersed in the local rivalries.

They never got over the fact that they weren't quite good enough to win the league (or any other trophy for that matter) when they had a very exciting team under BFR and we did do just that under Saunders playing exciting football. That would be one of the reasons. Oh and the fact that Wolves won the League Cup at the time despite being practically bankrupt.

I am sure there are a multitude of other reasons too but I've got the ball rolling.

Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: pooligan on March 05, 2015, 11:29:53 AM
Seeing as Clark is one booking away from a two game ban i would not be surprised to see him  left out of this,as having him and Hutton banned from the Sunderland Game would be bad news. I expect cardboord Ron to come in (if fit)
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: OzVilla on March 05, 2015, 11:31:31 AM
Although their club has a decent history, it's no where near ours which was forged usually at their expense.

Infact in every facet of their existence they've never quite managed to match us.

They know it, we know it and they hate it.  But their naturally sanctimonious 'better than you' nature makes this hard from them to admit this.

 Like Coventry before, the also can't stand the fact that many of our supporters genuinely don't get obsessed about playing them. 

Quite funny really.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 05, 2015, 11:35:37 AM
Why are WBA referred to as the "bitters" ?

Remember that I'm a glory-hunting interloper who only started following Villa because of the guarantee of trophies and did not grow up immersed in the local rivalries.

Read their reactions to Tuesday night and take a wild guess.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on March 05, 2015, 11:56:29 AM
I'm as guilty as the next man of winding up Albion supporting mates after Tuesday's result but I'm starting to worry that I might have been a bit premature and should have kept my powder dry until Sunday. My default negative stance has been restored and I'm going for a draw.

And anyone making the journey back to London on Saturday night should note that there's a tube strike starting at 9pm. Effing marvellous
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: aj2k77 on March 05, 2015, 12:03:31 PM
I particularly enjoyed watching the guy wearing the flasher mac at the beginning of the Mail video declaring Villa are a championship side, whilst nearly crying and declaring everyone and everything useless. It must have been heartbreaking watching Benteke casually side foot the pen whilst Foster crawled about on the floor like Gollum not knowing what the fuck was going on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: manic-road on March 05, 2015, 12:09:06 PM
It's a cup game so form goes out the window, but I think we can keep the momentum going and win 2-1 again.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Jimbo on March 05, 2015, 12:18:49 PM
Why are Albion bitter and twisted? Think of them as the man with the tiny cock at the urinal. He's standing there trying to pluck up the courage to dribble some lumpy orange piss, when Mr Aston Villa steps up and hauls his cumbersome, shining flesh-hammer out of his fur-lined pants and fires a boiling, golden jet that cracks the porcelain.

Albion man looks down at his own shrivelled, wretched, warty little chicken's nipple and tries to convince himself that, although his own genitalia is smaller than his wammel's, at the very least, he's got a better personality than Villa man, who right now is having trouble stuffing his tumbling trunk of love back in his pants with both hands and a shoehorn.

Albion man spends the rest of his earthly hours either fretting about his alarming lack of a discernible winkle, or telling anyone who can decode his charming Chaucerian gobbledegook what a bounder and a cad Villa man is, while the latter is busy thrilling Albion man's wench.   

It ay fair.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: supertom on March 05, 2015, 12:26:02 PM
Why are Albion bitter and twisted? Think of them as the man with the tiny cock at the urinal. He's standing there trying to pluck up the courage to dribble some lumpy orange piss, when Mr Aston Villa steps up and hauls his cumbersome, shining flesh-hammer out of his fur-lined pants and fires a boiling, golden jet that cracks the porcelain.

Albion man looks down at his own shrivelled, wretched, warty little chicken's nipple and tries to convince himself that, although his own genitalia is smaller than his wammel's, at the very least, he's got a better personality than Villa man, who right now is having trouble stuffing his tumbling trunk of love back in his pants with both hands and a shoehorn.

Albion man spends the rest of his earthly hours either fretting about his alarming lack of a discernible winkle, or telling anyone who can decode his charming Chaucerian gobbledegook what a bounder and a cad Villa man is, while the latter is busy thrilling Albion man's wench.   

It ay fair.
Brilliant.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on March 05, 2015, 12:32:18 PM
Why are Albion bitter and twisted? Think of them as the man with the tiny cock at the urinal. He's standing there trying to pluck up the courage to dribble some lumpy orange piss, when Mr Aston Villa steps up and hauls his cumbersome, shining flesh-hammer out of his fur-lined pants and fires a boiling, golden jet that cracks the porcelain.

Albion man looks down at his own shrivelled, wretched, warty little chicken's nipple and tries to convince himself that, although his own genitalia is smaller than his wammel's, at the very least, he's got a better personality than Villa man, who right now is having trouble stuffing his tumbling trunk of love back in his pants with both hands and a shoehorn.

Albion man spends the rest of his earthly hours either fretting about his alarming lack of a discernible winkle, or telling anyone who can decode his charming Chaucerian gobbledegook what a bounder and a cad Villa man is, while the latter is busy thrilling Albion man's wench.   

It ay fair.
The imagery, oh the imagery!


Wonderful stuff Jimbo!
UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: DB on March 05, 2015, 12:52:45 PM
Sorry if already mentioned, but no tickets on general sale, you have to have a client ref / booking history. They don't want away fans in the home end I was told. I understand that, but what if you are a Villa fan and want to go as your first match? They must be confident to sell out.

I suspect that the club would live with a couple of thousand empty seats rather than risk away fans getting in the home section

Yeah, but I could not buy a 2nd seat for a mate. The counter arguement is loss of revenue if there are empty seats...who knows, some of the first timers may spend money in the shop and want to come to another game on the back of Saturday's match.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on March 05, 2015, 01:00:50 PM
Quite a few on here will have ref numbers DB.
I've happily passed mine on to someone else to use once I'd got my own ticket sorted.

Even in the Trinity we've had a few issues with away supporters this season, esp Arse, ManU and Chavski. I think there could be murder committed if rogue Stripeys got in so I can see why the club's being so fussy over this one.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Cleybrooke on March 05, 2015, 01:05:56 PM
Can someone re-post the "why we hate the baggies" essay?

Well worth a read before the game on Saturday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: papa lazarou on March 05, 2015, 01:06:59 PM
Why are Albion bitter and twisted? Think of them as the man with the tiny cock at the urinal. He's standing there trying to pluck up the courage to dribble some lumpy orange piss, when Mr Aston Villa steps up and hauls his cumbersome, shining flesh-hammer out of his fur-lined pants and fires a boiling, golden jet that cracks the porcelain.

Albion man looks down at his own shrivelled, wretched, warty little chicken's nipple and tries to convince himself that, although his own genitalia is smaller than his wammel's, at the very least, he's got a better personality than Villa man, who right now is having trouble stuffing his tumbling trunk of love back in his pants with both hands and a shoehorn.

Albion man spends the rest of his earthly hours either fretting about his alarming lack of a discernible winkle, or telling anyone who can decode his charming Chaucerian gobbledegook what a bounder and a cad Villa man is, while the latter is busy thrilling Albion man's wench.   

It ay fair.
Errrrrr.....is it remotely possible, just by chance, although highly unlikely I should imagine, that Villa man could also have a teeny weeny piddlestick - my mate wants to know.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Smoke on March 05, 2015, 01:12:52 PM
I particularly enjoyed watching the guy wearing the flasher mac at the beginning of the Mail video declaring Villa are a championship side, whilst nearly crying and declaring everyone and everything useless. It must have been heartbreaking watching Benteke casually side foot the pen whilst Foster crawled about on the floor like Gollum not knowing what the fuck was going on.

It's the line "Tek Bentekay out that team are theym nuffin" that got me!!

Benteke's been at best, useless for months matey.

hopefully not for much longer though.

Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 05, 2015, 01:22:56 PM
I particularly enjoyed watching the guy wearing the flasher mac at the beginning of the Mail video declaring Villa are a championship side, whilst nearly crying and declaring everyone and everything useless. It must have been heartbreaking watching Benteke casually side foot the pen whilst Foster crawled about on the floor like Gollum not knowing what the fuck was going on.

It's the line "Tek Bentekay out that team are theym nuffin" that got me!!

Benteke's been at best, useless for months matey.

hopefully not for much longer though.



In fact they may have awoken THE BEAST
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Smoke on March 05, 2015, 01:27:20 PM
^ PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

(https://aldoricci.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/please-please.jpg)
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Damo70 on March 05, 2015, 01:31:37 PM
Why are WBA referred to as the "bitters" ?

Remember that I'm a glory-hunting interloper who only started following Villa because of the guarantee of trophies and did not grow up immersed in the local rivalries.

They never got over the fact that they weren't quite good enough to win the league (or any other trophy for that matter) when they had a very exciting team under BFR and we did do just that under Saunders playing exciting football. That would be one of the reasons. Oh and the fact that Wolves won the League Cup at the time despite being practically bankrupt.

I am sure there are a multitude of other reasons too but I've got the ball rolling.


Last major trophy win -

Small Heath 2011
Villa            1996
Coventry     1987
Wolves        1980
Albion         1968

Since they last won a major trophy we have won six (seven and a half if you want to throw in the Super Cup and Charity Shield), Wolves have won two and even Coventry and Small Heath have won one each. We won the European Cup and European Super Cup, Wolves reached the UEFA Cup final and even Small Heath had 'A European adventure'. They still bang on about beating Valencia in the last sixteen of the UEFA Cup thirty five years ago before being knocked out in the quarters. Bitter? Them?
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 05, 2015, 01:31:55 PM

(http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1815605.ece/alternates/s615/Stoke-City-v-Aston-Villa-Premier-League.jpg)
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on March 05, 2015, 01:45:11 PM
Why are WBA referred to as the "bitters" ?

Remember that I'm a glory-hunting interloper who only started following Villa because of the guarantee of trophies and did not grow up immersed in the local rivalries.

They never got over the fact that they weren't quite good enough to win the league (or any other trophy for that matter) when they had a very exciting team under BFR and we did do just that under Saunders playing exciting football. That would be one of the reasons. Oh and the fact that Wolves won the League Cup at the time despite being practically bankrupt.

I am sure there are a multitude of other reasons too but I've got the ball rolling.


Last major trophy win -

Small Heath 2011
Villa            1996
Coventry     1987
Wolves        1980
Albion         1968

Since they last won a major trophy we have won six (seven and a half if you want to throw in the Super Cup and Charity Shield), Wolves have won two and even Coventry and Small Heath have won one each. We won the European Cup and European Super Cup, Wolves reached the UEFA Cup final and even Small Heath had 'A European adventure'. They still bang on about beating Valencia in the last sixteen of the UEFA Cup thirty five years ago before being knocked out in the quarters. Bitter? Them?

Don't forget John Wile's heroics in their ill fated Cup semi final against Ipswich in 1978. In which they got thrashed.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 05, 2015, 01:45:51 PM
And 1979, when they were the only team to be affected by the snow.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Damo70 on March 05, 2015, 01:55:08 PM
The manager of their bestest team in most peoples memories won a major trophy with Villa, a major trophy with Sheffield Wednesday, two major trophies with Manchester United and a fourth division title trophy with Cambridge. Although admittedly I don't think in any of those seasons we had a lot of snow.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: walsall villain on March 05, 2015, 01:57:23 PM
Why are WBA referred to as the "bitters" ?

Remember that I'm a glory-hunting interloper who only started following Villa because of the guarantee of trophies and did not grow up immersed in the local rivalries.

They never got over the fact that they weren't quite good enough to win the league (or any other trophy for that matter) when they had a very exciting team under BFR and we did do just that under Saunders playing exciting football. That would be one of the reasons. Oh and the fact that Wolves won the League Cup at the time despite being practically bankrupt.

I am sure there are a multitude of other reasons too but I've got the ball rolling.


Last major trophy win -

Small Heath 2011
Villa            1996
Coventry     1987
Wolves        1980
Albion         1968

Since they last won a major trophy we have won six (seven and a half if you want to throw in the Super Cup and Charity Shield), Wolves have won two and even Coventry and Small Heath have won one each. We won the European Cup and European Super Cup, Wolves reached the UEFA Cup final and even Small Heath had 'A European adventure'. They still bang on about beating Valencia in the last sixteen of the UEFA Cup thirty five years ago before being knocked out in the quarters. Bitter? Them?

Don't forget John Wile's heroics in their ill fated Cup semi final against Ipswich in 1978. In which they got thrashed.
That would be the game when the club announced ticket arrangements for the final before they played the semi.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on March 05, 2015, 02:21:05 PM
An important question; will there be free flags for this game?

We always win when they give us free flags (well, we beat Blackburn in the League Cup Semi-Final in 2010....).
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Nev on March 05, 2015, 02:21:18 PM
They thought that Tuesday was it, that all the pain of our superiority would be banished, that they would have fans all over the ground, that they would all but relegate us, that they would show the world what a bunch of cheating, dirty bastards we were, and that they would finally step out of the darkness and everyone one would know who they were, not just themselves.

But it didn't happen, and whatever happens on Saturday, it won't change the fact that, like many before them, they made assumptions that were so very wide of the mark.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 05, 2015, 03:04:59 PM
From the OS - our Olly will be happy :)

Quote
Focused Sherwood: Rest players for the FA Cup? No chance!

Tim Sherwood produced an icy stare in the midst of the euphoria of the win over the Baggies on Tuesday as he was asked whether resting players for the return of Albion this weekend was in his mind.

"No chance" came his reply as he spoke of his desire to see off WBA again - despite the quick turnaround of matches - and ensure a trip to Wembley in the FA Cup.

On the eve of the top-flight clash, he had said: "We're focusing on Tuesday and then we're looking 100% on Saturday. We want to make it to the semi-final, win that and win the Cup."

His outlook hadn't changed as he addressed the media following the top-flight derby victory over the weekend opponents.

Asked whether he would rest players, he said: "No chance! It's the quarter-final of the FA Cup.

"It's a massive club. There's absolutely no chance of that.

"This win gives the club a huge lift. Now we want to get to Wembley.

"We want to be in the semi-final of the Cup.

"The Cup game is now the most important one for us as it's the next one - and we want to get to Wembley."
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: aj2k77 on March 05, 2015, 03:24:18 PM
I can't imagine what I'd do if we won the Fa Cup.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: silhillvilla on March 05, 2015, 03:30:29 PM
I can't imagine what I'd do if we won the Fa Cup.
I don't even want to think about it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Mister E on March 05, 2015, 03:34:54 PM
I can't imagine what I'd do if we won the Fa Cup.
Winning the FA Cup would be amazing  but my overall feeling about it would depend on whether we've maintained our P'ship status.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: DeKuip on March 05, 2015, 04:03:23 PM
I can't imagine what I'd do if we won the Fa Cup.
I'll rise from the grave, or dance inside an urn on the shelf more like.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 05, 2015, 04:07:08 PM
I'm definitely warming to our manager.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: LeeB on March 05, 2015, 04:07:37 PM
I can't imagine what I'd do if we won the Fa Cup.
I'll rise from the grave, or dance inside an urn on the shelf more like.

I'd probably end up accidently topping myself attempting an asphixy-wank, in a vain attempt to recapture the intensity of the high sometime after the event.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Villa Lew on March 05, 2015, 04:15:01 PM
Don't know if it has already been mentioned, just heard if there's a replay it won't be until 7 April, leaving just 11/12 days before the semi.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: andyh on March 05, 2015, 04:22:18 PM
Until yesterday, I couldn't give this cup game too much thought.
Actually, that's not true. It's there in the back of my mind, but I'm trying to keep it there. I don't want to think about it, don't want to get too excited, and certainly don't want to think about getting to Wxxxley.
That said, I can feel it creeping to the front. 
By Saturday, no doubt, I'll be be a nervous wreck in anticipation.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Charlie8182 on March 05, 2015, 04:28:36 PM
An important question; will there be free flags for this game?

We always win when they give us free flags (well, we beat Blackburn in the League Cup Semi-Final in 2010....).

Other than CSKA Moscow and then Bradford 2 years ago.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 05, 2015, 04:30:55 PM
We beat Bradford.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 05, 2015, 04:32:46 PM
We beat Bradford.

yes, the hollowest of all hollow victories mind you
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 05, 2015, 04:33:29 PM
Did we have flags for Bradford, I can't remember any?
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: dekko on March 05, 2015, 04:36:47 PM
Did we have flags for Bradford, I can't remember any?

We certainly did, its one of the few things my brain will let me remember about that night
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 05, 2015, 04:37:54 PM
Shows how much i've blanked that night out! Feck knows what I did with mine.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on March 05, 2015, 04:39:21 PM
We were all given a free Villa flag at White Hart Lane a few years ago when it was Spurs' 125th birthday. We went 4-1 up as well
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Dr Butler on March 05, 2015, 04:44:25 PM
Did we have flags for Bradford, I can't remember any?

yep I nailed mine to the allotment shed, which it then blew away :(.....the flag, not the shed :)

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Legion on March 05, 2015, 04:46:59 PM
I picked up loads that had been discarded and passed them on to the kids at work as a punishment reward treat.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 05, 2015, 05:26:40 PM
I'm definitely warming to our manager.

He certainly talks a good game, I'll give him that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: supertom on March 05, 2015, 06:01:48 PM
We just need to repeat our gameplan. Get into them and attack quickly. I think we've got the upper hand. I'm hoping to see Benteke closer to his old self too. The relief after that goal for him, and indeed everyone associated with the club was plain to see. That could do him the world of good. If he's on fire saturday, we'll stuff them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: paul_e on March 05, 2015, 06:06:07 PM
I've got 40-1 on a 2-0 win with Benteke as the first scorer, I think Benteke and Gabby will boss them again.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 05, 2015, 06:14:22 PM
I've got 40-1 on a 2-0 win with Benteke as the first scorer, I think Benteke and Gabby will boss them again.

Baggies fans seem to be worried Lescott hasn't got the legs to play two games in a week. If that's the case, you could be on to a nice little earner there, Paul_e.

I'm expecting it to be a tougher game than Tuesday night. Albion were pants for most of the game and I don't see them being that poor again. Saying that, an early Villa goal and they'll collapse.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 05, 2015, 07:01:32 PM
I'm definitely warming to our manager.

He certainly talks a good game, I'll give him that.

he does, but if you look at what he's done in just a couple of weeks then he needs to be commended on not only making us more confident, but evidently better with each game. At some point, and each to their own on this, but we have to start giving him a bit of credit for the team playing better and for certain players upping their performance levels. For all the talk of Pulis before Tuesday night and the job he's done, we should have really battered them by 3 or 4. A lot of that is down to the manager in how he has the front two playing and how compact he made the midfield all night. That and I like so far the staff he has put together. He came here with a plan and has quickly assembled his team with the minimum of fuss. Compare and contrast to a significantly more experienced manager like Lambert and what a mess that was behind the scenes for all but around 9 months of his time at the club.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Monty on March 05, 2015, 07:04:54 PM
The confidence thing was always his area of strength, but what he did with the formation on Tuesday was what caught my eye. It was bold and kind of mad, but it certainly worked very well.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 05, 2015, 07:08:34 PM
The confidence thing was always his area of strength, but what he did with the formation on Tuesday was what caught my eye. It was bold and kind of mad, but it certainly worked very well.

Any man on this planet who finds a way to make N'Zogbia look half way decent should receive the highest praise!
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Stu on March 05, 2015, 07:18:17 PM
I'm getting nervous already.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on March 05, 2015, 07:24:22 PM
We're looking very light on defenders.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Ron Manager on March 05, 2015, 07:32:40 PM
Tony Pullis is quoted as saying (in the E&S tonight) blah blah and then "We go again".
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Villafirst on March 05, 2015, 07:44:56 PM
We're looking very light on defenders.

Is Vlaar going to be fit? Senderos?.....how can a calf injury keep him out for 4 months? A complete mystery; I thought he was back in training.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Tom_Mc9? on March 05, 2015, 07:45:27 PM
I prefer 'We go again' to words such as 'project' and 'narrative' which are creeping into 'BPL' terminology.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on March 05, 2015, 07:56:56 PM
We're looking very light on defenders.

Is Vlaar going to be fit? Senderos?.....how can a calf injury keep him out for 4 months? A complete mystery; I thought he was back in training.

Vlaar might be fit.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Louzie0 on March 05, 2015, 07:59:19 PM
I think he should surprise them.  :)
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Tony Erdington on March 05, 2015, 09:45:43 PM
if Delph is supported by Cleveley again on saturday, then im sorry but were going to have to cough up for a trip down london way, cuz imo thats where the game was won tuesday, ably supported by our new number 11, Lowton, Hutton, Westwood, and a nice little cameo from the G boy.

Oh yes and our own London Boy , "The Sheriff"
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Villafirst on March 05, 2015, 09:57:41 PM
I was surprised how slow Lescott now looks - he ran a bit like a carthorse. We need to target him; I see Darren Fletcher is cup- tied, which will weaken their midfield.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on March 05, 2015, 10:07:26 PM
I hope we're a bit better at defending their set-pieces and making a lot more of our own...two areas where we can improve without too much effort!
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: clash city rocker on March 05, 2015, 11:06:26 PM
Don't think it will help us at set pieces if gabby is marking Les cott again. Apart from pulling his shirt Gabby got nowhere near him for their goal.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: villan from luton on March 05, 2015, 11:11:04 PM
So you'd drop Lowton for someone who plays for Doncaster? And drop Delph? And Clark?
I think he will rotate and rest a few legs for Sunderland.

Why, when we aint playing them for a week?
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: villan from luton on March 05, 2015, 11:31:23 PM
Set pieces were the only chances they created, they had a free header early in the second half when Dawson? should have done better than head over the bar
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: tomd2103 on March 06, 2015, 12:20:03 AM
I'm getting nervous already.

I'm not, I'm really looking forward to it.  Tuesday night was the one to be nervous about and after what I saw we haven't really got anything to fear. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: DeKuip on March 06, 2015, 12:30:25 AM
So you'd drop Lowton for someone who plays for Doncaster? And drop Delph? And Clark?
I think he will rotate and rest a few legs for Sunderland.

Why, when we aint playing them for a week?
It takes more than a week to recover from a rotated leg.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on March 06, 2015, 07:22:06 AM
I'm getting nervous already.

I'm not, I'm really looking forward to it.  Tuesday night was the one to be nervous about and after what I saw we haven't really got anything to fear.

Yep. Our players are getting their self-belief back. We know they can do it, we've witnessed it, they just need to keep trusting themselves. Glory awaits.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Des Little on March 06, 2015, 07:33:10 AM
I'm getting nervous already.

I'm not, I'm really looking forward to it.  Tuesday night was the one to be nervous about and after what I saw we haven't really got anything to fear. 

Same. I'll be pissed off if we lose, but of the two games, Tuesday was of greater importance - in my opinion of course
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: TelfordVilla on March 06, 2015, 07:45:35 AM
So you'd drop Lowton for someone who plays for Doncaster? And drop Delph? And Clark?
I think he will rotate and rest a few legs for Sunderland.

Why, when we aint playing them for a week?
It takes more than a week to recover from a rotated leg.
:-)
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: l_mckay on March 06, 2015, 07:48:34 AM
Really want to believe we are going to beat them,but this is villa,2 wins in a week? Surely not!! But sod it repeat score from Tuesday 2-1 villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: dekko on March 06, 2015, 08:15:20 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31756575
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Ron Manager on March 06, 2015, 08:19:21 AM
I should imagine Jonas Olsson will come in for them to provide a physical presence a la Stoke. I havent got a clue who Sherwood will pick just as I hadn't got a clue who Lambert would pick. Pullis suggested he may field a weakened team last night, but then again he might not.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: rob_bridge on March 06, 2015, 08:27:17 AM
I'm getting nervous already.

I'm not, I'm really looking forward to it.  Tuesday night was the one to be nervous about and after what I saw we haven't really got anything to fear.

I agree. This is like a free hit. Pressure should be off for this one. And confidence higher.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: London Villan on March 06, 2015, 08:37:38 AM
I should imagine Jonas Olsson will come in for them to provide a physical presence a la Stoke. I havent got a clue who Sherwood will pick just as I hadn't got a clue who Lambert would pick. Pullis suggested he may field a weakened team last night, but then again he might not.

Yeah right, in the same way their two strikers were "injured".
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: cheltenhamlion on March 06, 2015, 08:43:01 AM
Tomorrow is a free hit but let's help the players along. There has been plenty on social media this week about bringing, banners, balloons, scarves etc.

Crank up the noise and colour and see if we can get a Grayson like start.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Richard E on March 06, 2015, 08:48:01 AM
I fancy there to be a red card (or two) tomorrow. Hopefully for them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on March 06, 2015, 09:00:21 AM
An important question; will there be free flags for this game?

We always win when they give us free flags (well, we beat Blackburn in the League Cup Semi-Final in 2010....).

Other than CSKA Moscow and then Bradford 2 years ago.

Hah, I was at both of those games too and have conveniently forgotten them. We did beat Bradford, but with far too late a goal to matter and we'd given up trying after their equaliser.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: rob_bridge on March 06, 2015, 09:07:20 AM
Tomorrow is a free hit but let's help the players along. There has been plenty on social media this week about bringing, banners, balloons, scarves etc.

Crank up the noise and colour and see if we can get a Grayson like start.

I promise to be noisy.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: UK Redsox on March 06, 2015, 09:29:10 AM
Tomorrow is a free hit but let's help the players along. There has been plenty on social media this week about bringing, banners, balloons, scarves etc.

Crank up the noise and colour and see if we can get a Grayson like start.

I promise to be noisy.

I promise to confine myself to my normal sarcastic comments
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: CJ on March 06, 2015, 09:35:00 AM
Don't know if it has already been mentioned, just heard if there's a replay it won't be until 7 April, leaving just 11/12 days before the semi.

Yes, absolutely ludicrous. 16th March is out as it's only 2 days after league games, 17th/18th March are out because Champions League games are on TV and the FA have agreed with UEFA not to pit cup games against Chumps League games, and the following 2 weeks is the international break, so 7th April is the chosen replay date. So whoever wins will have 8 days to sell 35000 tickets. Brilliant.  We just have to beat them tomorrow to avoid the chaos
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: aev on March 06, 2015, 09:50:24 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31756575

Benjamin Zephaniah speaks.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on March 06, 2015, 10:05:35 AM
The Lawrogimp speaks. (http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/31703971)

I particularly like "Villa finally got a Premier League win when they beat the Baggies on Tuesday night but it was a pretty unconvincing one, which looked a nailed-on draw until the last minute."

Pretty unconvincing apart from we absolutely battered them in the first half and with a bit of luck could have been 3 or 4 up.

How many times did his Liverpool team win unconvincingly 1-0 in the last 5 minutes?  Cock Socket.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: itbrvilla on March 06, 2015, 10:12:33 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31756575

Benjamin Zephaniah speaks.
Excellent.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Damo70 on March 06, 2015, 10:25:43 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31756575

Benjamin Zephaniah speaks.

Top man. Although I'm sure Adrian Chiles is putting an even more impressive piece together right now. Eric Clapton would be putting a cup final song together if he hadn't forgotten he supported them about thirty years ago.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on March 06, 2015, 10:43:56 AM
Fuck the fuckers.

This, Im seeing my baggie mate tonight for the first time since I told him to fuck off, canny wait
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: nigel on March 06, 2015, 10:47:26 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31756575

Benjamin Zephaniah speaks.
Excellent.

Ditto
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: stuart r on March 06, 2015, 11:04:10 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31756575

Benjamin Zephaniah speaks.

Top man. Although I'm sure Adrian Chiles is putting an even more impressive piece together right now. Eric Clapton would be putting a cup final song together if he hadn't forgotten he supported them about thirty years ago.

I think Eric would prefer the public knew him as an Enoch Powell supporting bigot rather than the humiliation of being outed as an Albion fan. In fairness to him, it is a close call.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on March 06, 2015, 11:05:22 AM
The Lawrogimp speaks. (http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/31703971)

I particularly like "Villa finally got a Premier League win when they beat the Baggies on Tuesday night but it was a pretty unconvincing one, which looked a nailed-on draw until the last minute."

Pretty unconvincing apart from we absolutely battered them in the first half and with a bit of luck could have been 3 or 4 up.

How many times did his Liverpool team win unconvincingly 1-0 in the last 5 minutes?  Cock Socket.

Yes Mark, that'd be because, up until virtually the last kick of the game, it was one-all.
Got all our "insight" from the brief MOTD showing, did we?
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: nigel on March 06, 2015, 11:06:51 AM
Let's hope this chap has something to cheer about  ;D



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Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Damo70 on March 06, 2015, 11:07:57 AM
Mark Lawrenson is a waste of space. Not a good pundit like Gary Neville for example and not even someone who stirs things up. I find it hard to take notice of anything he says, let alone have a strong reaction to it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: DB on March 06, 2015, 11:23:22 AM
You hardly see him on the Beeb anymore. Even he is shit they think..and that is saying something.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on March 06, 2015, 11:28:06 AM
Mark Lawrenson.
Smug complacency personified.




Expert, my arse!
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: mr underhill on March 06, 2015, 12:26:36 PM
I wonder how much dosh Lawro's managed to con out of the licence fee payers' over the year's for providing the square root of fuck all? not quite on Hansen's scale of largesse, but probably not far off. An utter cock.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Walmley_Villa on March 06, 2015, 01:07:44 PM
I have to say the team on Tuesday had me worried but all credit to the players and manager for delivering in the most part a very strong performance.
No idea what team we will put out tomorrow - will Lowton switch to the right or will Bacuna come in for Hutton? I gather Fletcher can't play so Pulis will make a change there and I expect Sessignon will be brought in. I would expect them to look to press us higher up the pitch this time which may well lead to us depending on the counter a bit more.
Will be fascinating regardless. UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Nev on March 06, 2015, 01:27:19 PM
I've just watched MOTD and they didn't show Delph hitting the post, highlights my arse.

Anyway, Benjamin is fab, and he repeated what I always say to Sandwell and Small Heath fans, form is temporary, class is permanent.

Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: rob_bridge on March 06, 2015, 01:39:07 PM
I wonder how much dosh Lawro's managed to con out of the licence fee payers' over the year's for providing the square root of fuck all? not quite on Hansen's scale of largesse, but probably not far off. An utter cock.

He is just so fucking lazy. Slouched in the seat as if he is doing everyone a favour spouting monotonous drivell that a 12 year old could state given 6 months exposure. StevieG blah blah blah fucking blah..
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 06, 2015, 02:08:45 PM
Quote
Villa v WBA is a big rivalry - and never more so than this weekend as we battle for a place in the semi-finals of the FA Cup at Wembley.

It is an exciting moment for the region and one where supporters will be urging on their respective teams with unbelievable passion.

But some matters transcend football.

Jeff Astle was one of the greatest Albion strikers of all-time but tragically his life was cut short due to Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy, a brain condition normally linked to boxing.

The coroner at the footballer's inquest ruled Astle's brain had been damaged by heading heavy leather footballs in the 1960s and 1970s.

At every home game this season, West Brom are showing a photo of Jeff on big screens nine minutes into each match as Jeff wore the No.9 shirt.

This coincides with the minute-long applause supporters have been honouring since the Justice for Jeff campaign was launched.

The Baggies supporters consider Astle royalty - his nickname was The King - so it is little surprise that they continue to remember his contribution.

We will also be displaying a photo of Jeff on the big screens this weekend and call on supporters of claret and blue persuasion to cast aside club loyalties and join together with Baggies fans to remember a player who did so much for football in the region.

Let's make Saturday a proud occasion for the West Midlands.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 06, 2015, 02:31:03 PM
I wonder how much dosh Lawro's managed to con out of the licence fee payers' over the year's for providing the square root of fuck all? not quite on Hansen's scale of largesse, but probably not far off. An utter cock.

He is just so fucking lazy. Slouched in the seat as if he is doing everyone a favour spouting monotonous drivell that a 12 year old could state given 6 months exposure. StevieG blah blah blah fucking blah..

That's exactly how I see him, and is precisely what gets on my tits the most.

He just sits there with an air of entitlement, slouched in his fucking chair, putting absolutely zero thought or effort into what he is saying. I can't stand him.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: AVH87 on March 06, 2015, 02:35:29 PM
Lawrenson must be cursing the likes of Gary Neville coming on the scene in the last few years, showing him up for the lazy, half-arsed pundit he is.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 06, 2015, 02:36:23 PM
Mark Lawrenson though is utterly ignorable because his opinion means next to nothing. And I'm being generous. It has zero value in terms of content. There is no effort whatsoever so it really doesn't register for me anyway. That he is a total ringpiece is undeniable.

Back to the game, I am going to assume Vlaar will play, so I wonder in the absence of Hutton whether Okore could fill in there and keep Lowton on the left?
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: AVH87 on March 06, 2015, 02:39:53 PM
Mark Lawrenson though is utterly ignorable because his opinion means next to nothing. And I'm being generous. It has zero value in terms of content. There is no effort whatsoever so it really doesn't register for me anyway. That he is a total ringpiece is undeniable.

Back to the game, I am going to assume Vlaar will play, so I wonder in the absence of Hutton whether Okore could fill in there and keep Lowton on the left?

Although if we play

Lowton Vlaar Okore Clark - we only have one defender out of position

Rather than:

Okore Vlaar Clark Lowton - 2 defenders out of position
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on March 06, 2015, 02:41:36 PM
I wonder how much dosh Lawro's managed to con out of the licence fee payers' over the year's for providing the square root of fuck all? not quite on Hansen's scale of largesse, but probably not far off. An utter cock.

He is just so fucking lazy. Slouched in the seat as if he is doing everyone a favour spouting monotonous drivell that a 12 year old could state given 6 months exposure. StevieG blah blah blah fucking blah..

That's exactly how I see him, and is precisely what gets on my tits the most.

He just sits there with an air of entitlement, slouched in his fucking chair, putting absolutely zero thought or effort into what he is saying. I can't stand him.

Usually wearing a shirt with collars that even Elvis in his Vegas days would have refused to wear.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: aj2k77 on March 06, 2015, 03:06:44 PM
It says it all when a bunch of random people from Tv like that countdown woman are more accurate than Lawro's predictions
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on March 06, 2015, 03:18:20 PM
It says it all when a bunch of random people from Tv like that countdown woman are more accurate than Lawro's predictions

The Countdown woman who's specialist subject on Mastermind was Man Utd in the Premier League years....
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: aev on March 06, 2015, 03:20:54 PM
It says it all when a bunch of random people from Tv like that countdown woman are more accurate than Lawro's predictions

The Countdown woman who's specialist subject on Mastermind was Man Utd in the Premier League years....

Who is from Essex no doubt.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: mr underhill on March 06, 2015, 03:23:22 PM
What Rachael Riley? or the dictionary bird? anyway, Lawro always looks like he's just woken up from being on the lash for days on end without actually having done so.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 06, 2015, 03:23:56 PM
Lawrenson's the last of the jumper-wearing, bland-speaking, never criticise your mates, golf-playing pundits who have been eclipsed by technology. It's a shame, because he was a great player.

Gold star for anyone who can name the former Villa captain he played with.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 06, 2015, 03:25:43 PM
Mark Lawrenson though is utterly ignorable because his opinion means next to nothing. And I'm being generous. It has zero value in terms of content. There is no effort whatsoever so it really doesn't register for me anyway. That he is a total ringpiece is undeniable.

Back to the game, I am going to assume Vlaar will play, so I wonder in the absence of Hutton whether Okore could fill in there and keep Lowton on the left?

Although if we play

Lowton Vlaar Okore Clark - we only have one defender out of position

Rather than:

Okore Vlaar Clark Lowton - 2 defenders out of position

I just think Clark is so much better suited to being a CB and being a left sided one at that. Plus he has been superb in that position so if I was to take one of the current CB's out to fill an unfamiliar role I would pick Okore. Lowton has played quite well at LB so keep him there is my opinion.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: tommy smart on March 06, 2015, 03:30:29 PM
Ian Ross ?
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: mr underhill on March 06, 2015, 03:30:58 PM
was it Dennis Mortimer ?
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 06, 2015, 03:32:19 PM
Steve Foster?
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: The Left Side on March 06, 2015, 03:38:38 PM
Steve Foster?

I was thinking of Foster too
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: rob_bridge on March 06, 2015, 03:40:36 PM
Lawrenson's the last of the jumper-wearing, bland-speaking, never criticise your mates, golf-playing pundits who have been eclipsed by technology. It's a shame, because he was a great player.

Gold star for anyone who can name the former Villa captain he played with.

John Gregory?
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: rob_bridge on March 06, 2015, 03:48:59 PM
It says it all when a bunch of random people from Tv like that countdown woman are more accurate than Lawro's predictions

The Countdown woman who's specialist subject on Mastermind was Man Utd in the Premier League years....

Who is from Essex no doubt.

She is
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: andyaston on March 06, 2015, 03:50:17 PM
Steve Staunton maybe?
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on March 06, 2015, 04:01:55 PM
It says it all when a bunch of random people from Tv like that countdown woman are more accurate than Lawro's predictions

The Countdown woman who's specialist subject on Mastermind was Man Utd in the Premier League years....

Who is from Essex no doubt.

She is

Rachel Riley - and yes, she really is from Essex.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Ron Manager on March 06, 2015, 04:02:19 PM
Lawrenson's the last of the jumper-wearing, bland-speaking, never criticise your mates, golf-playing pundits who have been eclipsed by technology. It's a shame, because he was a great player.

Gold star for anyone who can name the former Villa captain he played with.

Jimmy Brown
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 06, 2015, 04:12:35 PM
John Devey.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 06, 2015, 04:18:57 PM
John Devey.

I think there may be some truth behind Devey influencing Lawrenson's dodgy tache.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: mr underhill on March 06, 2015, 04:24:26 PM
can't believe he's only three years older than  Gary Lineker.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 06, 2015, 04:26:22 PM
Lawrenson's the last of the jumper-wearing, bland-speaking, never criticise your mates, golf-playing pundits who have been eclipsed by technology. It's a shame, because he was a great player.

Gold star for anyone who can name the former Villa captain he played with.

Jimmy Brown


Winner.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Dazvillain on March 06, 2015, 07:02:01 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31756575

Benjamin Zephaniah speaks.
Enjoyed, great piece. Gutted i can't be there tomoz
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: hipkiss92 on March 06, 2015, 07:26:47 PM
It says it all when a bunch of random people from Tv like that countdown woman are more accurate than Lawro's predictions

The Countdown woman who's specialist subject on Mastermind was Man Utd in the Premier League years....

Who is from Essex no doubt.

She is



Rachel Riley - and yes, she really is from Essex.

Anyone criticising Rachel Riley needs their head checking
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Mossie Hennebry on March 06, 2015, 08:37:56 PM
It says it all when a bunch of random people from Tv like that countdown woman are more accurate than Lawro's predictions

The Countdown woman who's specialist subject on Mastermind was Man Utd in the Premier League years....

Who is from Essex no doubt.

She is



Rachel Riley - and yes, she really is from Essex.

Anyone criticising Rachel Riley needs their head checking
A lovely girl.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: ez on March 06, 2015, 08:44:04 PM
I wonder if Foster will get an ovation as he runs towards the holte end.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Godfrey Brian on March 06, 2015, 08:49:19 PM
I wonder if Foster will get an ovation as he runs towards the holte end.

A couple of early corners, CB on form and it could be Bob Wilson all over again! But then again.....................
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Gregorys Boy on March 06, 2015, 09:20:40 PM
Anyone who thinks that this is not the tie of the weekend needs the brain checking.  Yes it is unlikely to have the standard of football as the game on Monday, but all the elements are there.  A spicey local derby with one team looking to even the score from a few days ago, both teams in the wrong end of the table looking for cup glory, both who have not won the cup for ages, and ages and a massive ground to watch it.  This is what the cup is all about :)
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: timeoutbigbar on March 06, 2015, 10:06:51 PM
Anyone who thinks that this is not the tie of the weekend needs the brain checking.  Yes it is unlikely to have the standard of football as the game on Monday, but all the elements are there.  A spicey local derby with one team looking to even the score from a few days ago, both teams in the wrong end of the table looking for cup glory, both who have not won the cup for ages, and ages and a massive ground to watch it.  This is what the cup is all about :)

But neither Liverpool, Man Utd, Man City, Spurs or Arsenal are playing, so who cares?

(how could I have forgotten everyones favourite racists, Chelsea).
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: cheltenhamlion on March 06, 2015, 10:15:58 PM
Because they have been knocked out!
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Ads on March 06, 2015, 11:32:04 PM
The Albion are bringing 22 coaches tomorrow for a four mile trip! Only the Noses bring more.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 07, 2015, 01:23:56 AM
I wonder if Foster will get an ovation as he runs towards the holte end.

A couple of early corners, CB on form and it could be Bob Wilson all over again!

Now there's a lovely thought.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Holte L2 on March 07, 2015, 06:57:31 AM
There's a guy called Steve Henson on Facebook. He runs the Berkshire lions. He reckons Benteke isn't in the squad???
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Richard on March 07, 2015, 07:16:06 AM
Popped on to a West Brom forum and someone said he had to have a scan for a groin injury please god let this not be true !!
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Tom_Mc9? on March 07, 2015, 07:40:36 AM
It could be true, but why would someone on a West Brom forum know more than Villa forums, the BBC, the local newspapers etc?
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: aj2k77 on March 07, 2015, 07:47:36 AM
Benteke will be fit and will be tearing Albion several arseholes from half 5 onwards.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Ron Manager on March 07, 2015, 07:59:49 AM
I wonder if Foster will get an ovation as he runs towards the holte end.

A couple of early corners, CB on form and it could be Bob Wilson all over again! But then again.....................

Perhaps we should recall Sammy Morgan for this one!  Not much skill but 1000% commitment! But I suspect it will be Boaz Myhill in goal for them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on March 07, 2015, 08:30:14 AM
Feel less nervous about this game. It would be excellent to get a win and build some momentum.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Villafirst on March 07, 2015, 08:40:17 AM
Anything further on Benteke? I really hope he plays tonight.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on March 07, 2015, 08:44:17 AM
Feel less nervous about this game. It would be excellent to get a win and build some momentum.

Indeed, if one takes out the fact that it's a Cup QF, back-to-back home wins is exactly the tonic we could all do with, as things stand.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: silhillvilla on March 07, 2015, 09:02:42 AM
I think it will be hard to maintain the intensity of Tuesday night.
I'm fearing a bit of a damp squib to be honest .
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: clash city rocker on March 07, 2015, 09:47:05 AM
A packed Villa park with a lot of Villa noise could help us to start off like we did Tuesday. Things could be an awful lot better if the players couldn't wait to get out and play at villa park instead of fearing being at home. I for one intend to have a good ' hoot and a ball ' today...
Come on you lions let's show them black country chancers what an atmosphere really is. U T F Villa..!
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Jimbo on March 07, 2015, 09:49:03 AM
I want to be savouring the piquant aroma of roasted throstle tonight.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on March 07, 2015, 09:50:08 AM
Digging out my Fa cup favours now
Rossette-check
Jaunty c & b trilby -check
Homemade silver foil cup-check
Lucky ' up the Villa' jeans patch-check
Silk scarf (away) for wrist-check
Polyester v-neck 'star' jumper-check

3-1 us
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: silhillvilla on March 07, 2015, 09:52:03 AM
Looks like the club are supplying 10,000 balloons to the Holte today
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: class-of-82 on March 07, 2015, 10:00:35 AM
10,000 balloons oh yes
takes me back to southampton away f.a.cup 3rd round away 1976
come on villa
lets make this the perfect week
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: clash city rocker on March 07, 2015, 10:02:10 AM
Balloons. .I'm going back to the good old fashioned bog roll wanging today.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on March 07, 2015, 10:07:06 AM
Villa score, Villa score,
Once you get one you'll get more,
We'll sing you assembly(?)
When we get to Wembley,
So score, Viiiiilla, score.


Do it, just fkn do it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: l_mckay on March 07, 2015, 10:10:12 AM
So nervous now,come on villa don't let me down!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: UK Redsox on March 07, 2015, 10:12:29 AM
Looks like the club are supplying 10,000 balloons to the Holte today

Holtist bias again.

The Holte gets the giant flag and the Holte gets balloons .

The least that the club could do is supply us in the Lower Trinity with giant pieces of card and marker pens so that we can hold up signs with our witty and/or sarcastic comments.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: silhillvilla on March 07, 2015, 10:25:06 AM
FA Cup: Fans to make a difference
Admin, 2015-03-06 20:05

In the build up to the big game tomorrow against Albion,  fans are getting ready to be the 12th man.  The club will be issuing 10,000 balloons tomorrow, but please take your own Claret & Blue colours to make a tremendous atmosphere.  Bring your scarves, flags, balloons, streamers, inflatables – it is a fans’ party tomorrow! A couple of media items for you to get you in the mood.  Our Marketing Director Howard Hodgson with Jonny Gould, our new Patron, have produced an Albion sandwich…
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on March 07, 2015, 10:29:34 AM
Looks like the club are supplying 10,000 balloons to the Holte today

Holtist bias again.

The Holte gets the giant flag and the Holte gets flag.

The least that the club could do is supply us in the Lower Trinity with giant pieces of card and marker pens so that we can hold up signs with our witty and/or sarcastic comments.

Should be an app so that you can tap something in on your phone, and it scrolls round the electronic hoardings.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: devilla on March 07, 2015, 10:35:35 AM
just about to set off. It could be quite a day.

UTV.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Legion on March 07, 2015, 10:36:10 AM
Looks like the club are supplying 10,000 balloons to the Holte today

Holtist bias again.

The Holte gets the giant flag and the Holte gets balloons .

The least that the club could do is supply us in the Lower Trinity with giant pieces of card and marker pens so that we can hold up signs with our witty and/or sarcastic comments.

You sit in the posh seats. You can afford your own balloon.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: UK Redsox on March 07, 2015, 10:37:31 AM
just about to set off. It could be quite a day.

UTV.

I'll be joining the M5 Villa convoy in a little while
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: PeterWithe on March 07, 2015, 10:37:39 AM
Looks like the club are supplying 10,000 balloons to the Holte today

Holtist bias again.

The Holte gets the giant flag and the Holte gets balloons .

The least that the club could do is supply us in the Lower Trinity with giant pieces of card and marker pens so that we can hold up signs with our witty and/or sarcastic comments.

You sit in the posh seats. You can afford your own balloon.

My butler does the singing when prompted.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: clash city rocker on March 07, 2015, 10:38:43 AM
For the first time in a long time this thread seems to be full of hope and anticipation. Long may it continue.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Villa Lew on March 07, 2015, 10:56:43 AM
Our last FA Cup 6th round home tie was in 1960 when we beat Tom Finney's Preston 2-0, 2 of my heroes Gerry Hitchens and Peter McParland got the goals. How we could do with them now. Crowd was nearly 70,000 don't think there will be that many there today!
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on March 07, 2015, 11:14:58 AM
just about to set off. It could be quite a day.

UTV.


I'll be joining the M5 Villa convoy in a little while



What time are the North West hordes setting off ??
We will be leaving Formby at 1pm - C`mon Villa !!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: jeowje on March 07, 2015, 11:16:17 AM
I feel really nervous now, it's that unfamiliar feeling of almost expectancy. Ironically, I think in a strange way I would be looking forward to it more had we not won on monday, as it would feel like we had nothing to lose. What a great week it could turn out to be- maybe one of the best post-MON?
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: AV82EC on March 07, 2015, 11:29:21 AM
just about to set off. It could be quite a day.

UTV.


I'll be joining the M5 Villa convoy in a little while



What time are the North West hordes setting off ??
We will be leaving Formby at 1pm - C`mon Villa !!!

2-2.30 here in Altrincham. UTV! Also good to see ticket surge over the last 24 hours, probably now 41k plus
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on March 07, 2015, 11:50:50 AM
just about to set off. It could be quite a day.

UTV.


I'll be joining the M5 Villa convoy in a little while



What time are the North West hordes setting off ??
We will be leaving Formby at 1pm - C`mon Villa !!!

Brilliant to see you back. Junior coming too? Scarf out the window?
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Ads on March 07, 2015, 11:51:46 AM
I'm leaving at 1 as well. Missed the first 7 minutes on Tuesday and against Stoke because they shut the M6.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: BoskoDjembaSalifou on March 07, 2015, 11:56:56 AM
Will this be sold out? I know the Holte is, haven't heard anything about the other stands.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Godfrey Brian on March 07, 2015, 11:57:21 AM
Today does feel different- even setting out on Tuesday night- the hope I held was offset by the expectation of capitulation if we went one down. Tuesday changed things a lot- today I know we will go for it, doesn't mean we'll beat them of course but it it great travelling and knowing that there is clearly a different attitude.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 07, 2015, 12:03:20 PM
Really looking forward to it. Well up for it today. Only pisser is there's so long to wait!
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on March 07, 2015, 12:19:29 PM
Will this be sold out? I know the Holte is, haven't heard anything about the other stands.
Witton End sold out as well.
Seats still available in Trinity and Witton Lane.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Ads on March 07, 2015, 12:28:42 PM
Only around 100 left in the upper Witton Lane and a good amount in the upper Trinity. Everywhere else is sold out.

Should 40,000 to 41,000 on the gate.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on March 07, 2015, 12:28:53 PM
just about to set off. It could be quite a day.

UTV.

I'll be joining the M5 Villa convoy in a little while
I'll be joining it at about 2.30.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: UK Redsox on March 07, 2015, 12:39:43 PM
just about to set off. It could be quite a day.

UTV.

I'll be joining the M5 Villa convoy in a little while
I'll be joining it at about 2.30.

Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Villafirst on March 07, 2015, 01:07:42 PM
Any updates on the Benteke situation? Was it just false rumours on FB?
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Legion on March 07, 2015, 01:08:19 PM
Probably.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Axl Rose on March 07, 2015, 01:08:27 PM
Any updates on the Benteke situation? Was it just false rumours on FB?

No idea mate.

Referee is not Dowd, at least.

Anthony Taylor it is.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: supertom on March 07, 2015, 01:11:41 PM
Gonna see if my betting luck continues today.
Delph to score first, 2-1 Villa. 105 to 1. 10 pound down.
Fingers crossed.

I think Delphy is due a goal. Again, if we win I think it'll be tight and we won't keep a clean sheet. I think that's worth a punt at 105-1 (Sky Bet).
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: clash city rocker on March 07, 2015, 01:18:41 PM
On the train and listening to some albion fans. They are planning their trip to Wembley and are actually serious about it....wankers. ..!!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 07, 2015, 01:25:17 PM
Take nothing for granted today boys. Cheer the lads on with all your hearts. Beat these bastards and hopefully we can get a decent SF draw. But let's get there first.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Holte L2 on March 07, 2015, 01:35:49 PM
just about to set off. It could be quite a day.

UTV.
[/quote
just about to set off. It could be quite a day.

UTV.


I'll be joining the M5 Villa convoy in a little while



What time are the North West hordes setting off ??
We will be leaving Formby at 1pm - C`mon Villa !!!


I'll be joining the M5 Villa convoy in a little while



What time are the North West hordes setting off ??
We will be leaving Formby at 1pm - C`mon Villa !!!

Leaving Didsbury, South Manchester now!
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on March 07, 2015, 01:40:11 PM
On the train and listening to some albion fans. They are planning their trip to Wembley and are actually serious about it....wankers. ..!!!

I still think it is a toss-up today - we could easily lose it by a daft goal like they did on Tuesday
Getting very excited now!
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Mister E on March 07, 2015, 02:03:24 PM
I'm regretting not getting a ticket now. I've been butterfly-nervous all day even though I know that - frankly - Tuesday was a more significant game.
I really, really want us to put the Bitters to the sword today: their whining and whingeing since Tuesday has been tedious and amusing in equal measure - it's time for the sleeping lion to rise and cast it's enormous shadow over the Second City.
We've had 4-5 years of shit: it is right that we should re-emerge as an English force. Today offers us the chance to do just that, in front of a virtual sell-out and for all those TV viewers who have been moaning that the BBC chose the wrong game for its 5.30pm kick-off.
So, Villa fans: raise your voices long and loud.
And, to the players: feel the growing groundswell of emotion and passion; go vanquish the Smethwick Bitters whence they came.

DESTINY IS OURS.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: KevinGage on March 07, 2015, 02:04:30 PM
From the OS - our Olly will be happy :)

Quote
Focused Sherwood: Rest players for the FA Cup? No chance!

Tim Sherwood produced an icy stare in the midst of the euphoria of the win over the Baggies on Tuesday as he was asked whether resting players for the return of Albion this weekend was in his mind.

"No chance" came his reply as he spoke of his desire to see off WBA again - despite the quick turnaround of matches - and ensure a trip to Wembley in the FA Cup.

On the eve of the top-flight clash, he had said: "We're focusing on Tuesday and then we're looking 100% on Saturday. We want to make it to the semi-final, win that and win the Cup."

His outlook hadn't changed as he addressed the media following the top-flight derby victory over the weekend opponents.

Asked whether he would rest players, he said: "No chance! It's the quarter-final of the FA Cup.

"It's a massive club. There's absolutely no chance of that.

"This win gives the club a huge lift. Now we want to get to Wembley.

"We want to be in the semi-final of the Cup.

"The Cup game is now the most important one for us as it's the next one - and we want to get to Wembley."

He'll do for me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: London Villan on March 07, 2015, 02:24:40 PM
Doesn't sound like TS could "do without the cup".

UTV!
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: russon on March 07, 2015, 02:30:54 PM
I'm absolutely bricking it and reading this thread hasn't helped cos so many others seem the same. I feel like I used to feel before Villa matches years ago, nervous and excited, it's great! We have to win today and stick it up the Albion, I detest them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Dave on March 07, 2015, 02:49:32 PM
A dozen villa at Bristol temple meads judging from the shirts.  More West Brom than villa in the Wellington from what I can tell.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 07, 2015, 03:03:28 PM
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Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on March 07, 2015, 03:17:48 PM
I'm nervous, excited, looking forward to it, dreading it, we're going to lose, we'll wipe the floor with 'em.
Today ain't good for my dickey ticker.
I'll be a quivering wreck before half five.
Come on Villa let's send 'em back up Soho Rd.wishing they'd never come down it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: martin o`who?? on March 07, 2015, 03:19:10 PM
Couldnt stretch to both games so i chose Tuesday, really wish i was down today, please make me even more gutted by 7:20. We`ve had 5 years of shit to put up with from supporters of small clubs, please let this week be the turning point. After the Japs attacked Pearl Harbour Admiral Yamamoto wrote that "i fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping Giant - and fill him with a terrible resolve" well the tossers have annoyed us long enough.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 07, 2015, 03:21:15 PM
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Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on March 07, 2015, 03:26:55 PM
Things to do before I'm 50......
I'm in The Bartons for the first time ever. Just thought I'd share that. Seems stripey-free. Unlike Hockley.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 07, 2015, 03:28:07 PM
RedSox is here so off I go. Come you Villa boys! UTV VTID
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: eamonn on March 07, 2015, 03:40:32 PM
In the Arndale centre in Manchester at the mo. Just overdosed on a big slice of chocolate cake in Druckers. Anyone know any decent pubs around that will be showing it?
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: The Man With A Stick on March 07, 2015, 03:40:49 PM
Admiral Yamamoto

Sounds like a Smethwick fan with a name like that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Richard E on March 07, 2015, 03:46:51 PM
Admiral Yamamoto

Sounds like a Smethwick fan with a name like that.

Admiral Yamyamomoto
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: curiousorange on March 07, 2015, 04:22:47 PM
Benteke's out? Anyone properly confirm that?
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Risso on March 07, 2015, 04:30:04 PM
In the Arndale centre in Manchester at the mo. Just overdosed on a big slice of chocolate cake in Druckers. Anyone know any decent pubs around that will be showing it?

Not sure what "decent" pubs will be showing it.  Try Shooters sports bar in the Printworks down by Victoria station for a huge screen.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: usav on March 07, 2015, 04:36:02 PM
Benteke's out? Anyone properly confirm that?
Seems to be all over Twitter.  Injured.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 07, 2015, 04:36:07 PM
Vote of confidence for Foster by Pulis during the week...and he's dropped
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: VillaAlways on March 07, 2015, 04:37:19 PM
Had a feeling the rumour this morning would be true
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Ger Regan on March 07, 2015, 04:38:34 PM
Hope it's nothing too serious with benteke.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: usav on March 07, 2015, 04:41:01 PM
Going to need a live stream today, if anyone has one?
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Dazvillain on March 07, 2015, 04:46:35 PM
Has the team been announced yet then ?
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: VillaAlways on March 07, 2015, 04:47:08 PM
@StanCollymore: #AVFC Given/Bacuna Vlaar OkoreLowton/Cleverley Westwood Delph/Sinclair Gabby N’Zogbia

Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: usav on March 07, 2015, 04:48:21 PM
@StanCollymore: #AVFC Given/Bacuna Vlaar OkoreLowton/Cleverley Westwood Delph/Sinclair Gabby N’Zogbia
Attacking, and harsh on Clark to miss out......although he is on 9 bookings.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: adrenachrome on March 07, 2015, 04:48:30 PM
Loads of chanting stripey filth on got on the cross city line at new street. Bless their cotton socks.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: VillaAlways on March 07, 2015, 04:50:18 PM
@MirrorFootball: West Brom: Myhill, Dawson, CULKIN, Lescott, Olsson, BERTIE, Morrison, Yacob, Gardner, Berahino, BOBBY
http://t.co/sQ9z4eoeSf
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: curiousorange on March 07, 2015, 04:50:37 PM
Clark is in apparently. Strange Gil seems out of favour. Imagine him against Lescott...
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 07, 2015, 04:52:49 PM
Strange Gil seems out of favour. Imagine him against Lescott...

Obviously Sherwood sees something nobody else can see other than the Mrs N'Fuckingzogbia Sr.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 07, 2015, 04:53:41 PM
Where's Dave to launch our lucky Match Thread?
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Dazvillain on March 07, 2015, 04:54:25 PM
After a couple of great Gil viewings I struggle to see how he isn't fitting in
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: curiousorange on March 07, 2015, 04:55:03 PM
Unsubstantiated rumour Benteke might be done for the season. Will have to hope it's bulltwit.

It is. Collymore says hip injury, not a bad one. Although he did spanner up the team news about five minutes ago.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Dazvillain on March 07, 2015, 04:57:16 PM
Unsubstantiated rumour Benteke might be done for the season. Will have to hope it's bulltwit.

It is. Collymore says hip injury, not a bad one. Although he did spanner up the team news about five minutes ago.
Oh my good god !
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: KRS on March 07, 2015, 05:01:17 PM
Slightly different teams circulating around the internet at the moment...

Given, Bacuna, Okore, Clark, Lowton, Cleverley, N'Zogbia, Delph, Gabby, Sinclair

Myhill, Olsson, Lescott, McAuley, Dawson, Gardner, Yacob, Brunt, Morrison, Ideye, Berahino
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: gabbythelegend on March 07, 2015, 05:06:31 PM
To get you in the mood...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31756575
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on March 07, 2015, 05:08:31 PM
Slightly different teams circulating around the internet at the moment...

Given, Bacuna, Okore, Clark, Lowton, Cleverley, N'Zogbia, Delph, Gabby, Sinclair

Myhill, Olsson, Lescott, McAuley, Dawson, Gardner, Yacob, Brunt, Morrison, Ideye, Berahino

FFS when will we start to take the cup seriously?

If we can't be arsed to pick eleven men then we deserve nothing out of this game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on March 07, 2015, 05:12:08 PM
How can he leave out Westwood and Gil ??
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 07, 2015, 05:12:29 PM
Slightly different teams circulating around the internet at the moment...

Given, Bacuna, Okore, Clark, Lowton, Cleverley, N'Zogbia, Delph, Gabby, Sinclair

Myhill, Olsson, Lescott, McAuley, Dawson, Gardner, Yacob, Brunt, Morrison, Ideye, Berahino

FFS when will we start to take the cup seriously?

If we can't be arsed to pick eleven men then we deserve nothing out of this game.

It's bad enough only fielding ten but with N'Zogbia it feels like nine.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: David_Nab on March 07, 2015, 05:15:29 PM
Benteke minor hip injury
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Dave on March 07, 2015, 05:20:52 PM
Where's Dave to launch our lucky Match Thread?
Holte L2
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on March 07, 2015, 05:22:25 PM
Where's Dave to launch our lucky Match Thread?
Holte L2

No excuse!

Enjoy, fella.
Title: Re: Aston Villa Vs. Bitter Birds part deux 7th March Pre-match thread
Post by: KRS on March 07, 2015, 05:29:24 PM
Slightly different teams circulating around the internet at the moment...

Given, Bacuna, Okore, Clark, Lowton, Cleverley, N'Zogbia, Delph, Gabby, Sinclair

Myhill, Olsson, Lescott, McAuley, Dawson, Gardner, Yacob, Brunt, Morrison, Ideye, Berahino

FFS when will we start to take the cup seriously?

If we can't be arsed to pick eleven men then we deserve nothing out of this game.

It's bad enough only fielding ten but with N'Zogbia it feels like nine.
...apologies to Westwood...he must have been in the bogs taking a piss! :)
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