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Title: Caretaker Managers
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on February 15, 2015, 05:18:13 PM
So Scott Marshall gets a win in probably his only Villa game in charge  - 100% record!

I seem to remember John Ward getting a win in his only game in charge too.

More recently, we've had McAllister and MacDonald, who had rather mixed results.

Does anyone remember any other caretakers for Villa?  Anyone who has a 100% record, but managed more than one game?

Title: Re: Caretaker Managers
Post by: PaulTheVillan on February 15, 2015, 05:20:58 PM
I imagine the players didn't know Sherwood was going to make an appearance today in the half time break.

The second half was a class above.

Can't read much into caretaker managers, can't imagine players really giving 100% for someone who isn't hanging around.

Well done today though to the Marshall stack. Back to the day job tomorrow.
Title: Re: Caretaker Managers
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on February 15, 2015, 05:24:09 PM
Just realised that the last 4 men to manage Villa have been Scottish - McAllister, McLeish, Lambert, Marshall.

Title: Re: Caretaker Managers
Post by: nigel on February 15, 2015, 05:48:59 PM
He'll have the next round as Sherwood's cup tied
Title: Re: Caretaker Managers
Post by: Exeter 77 on February 15, 2015, 06:10:30 PM
Jim Barron had 100% record after BFR was sacked. 1 game 1 win - 4-3 at Spurs.
Title: Re: Caretaker Managers
Post by: Damo70 on February 15, 2015, 06:38:15 PM
So Scott Marshall gets a win in probably his only Villa game in charge  - 100% record!

I seem to remember John Ward getting a win in his only game in charge too.

More recently, we've had McAllister and MacDonald, who had rather mixed results.

Does anyone remember any other caretakers for Villa?  Anyone who has a 100% record, but managed more than one game?

Wasn't John Ward's only game in charge a 1-1 draw at Old Trafford when SGT was attending his daughters graduation? The famous foggy journey home about 10,000 of us made on bonfire night '88. Because from Frank Upton at Old Trafford on the last day in '87 to Jim Barron in late '94 we didn't have a caretaker due to both SGT and Dr Jo leaving at the end of the season. The only caretakers I can remember are Tony Barton, Ron Wylie, Upton, Barron, MacDonald, McAllister and the Marshall brothers today.
Title: Re: Caretaker Managers
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on February 15, 2015, 07:28:59 PM
Arthur Cox late 1968, before The Doc arrived.
Title: Re: Caretaker Managers
Post by: Ron Manager on February 15, 2015, 09:24:16 PM
I should know this but who was our trainer before Arthur Cox. There must have been someone after Bill Moore. I think Johnny Dixon did the youth sides .Who did it with Joe Mercer? Did Dick Taylor cover training as well as Assistant Manager?
Title: Re: Caretaker Managers
Post by: Ron Manager on February 15, 2015, 09:48:01 PM
Jimmy Easson then Bill Baxter.
Title: Re: Caretaker Managers
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on February 16, 2015, 12:32:44 AM
So Scott Marshall gets a win in probably his only Villa game in charge  - 100% record!

I seem to remember John Ward getting a win in his only game in charge too.

More recently, we've had McAllister and MacDonald, who had rather mixed results.

Does anyone remember any other caretakers for Villa?  Anyone who has a 100% record, but managed more than one game?

Wasn't John Ward's only game in charge a 1-1 draw at Old Trafford when SGT was attending his daughters graduation? The famous foggy journey home about 10,000 of us made on bonfire night '88. Because from Frank Upton at Old Trafford on the last day in '87 to Jim Barron in late '94 we didn't have a caretaker due to both SGT and Dr Jo leaving at the end of the season. The only caretakers I can remember are Tony Barton, Ron Wylie, Upton, Barron, MacDonald, McAllister and the Marshall brothers today.

I think I've confused/misremembered it then - probably remembered Barron's win, but attributing it to Ward.
Title: Re: Caretaker Managers
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 16, 2015, 01:00:40 AM
Who was O'Leary's assistant who took charge for 2006 pre-season ?
Title: Re: Caretaker Managers
Post by: eamonn on February 16, 2015, 01:15:11 AM
Roy Aitken?
Title: Re: Caretaker Managers
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 16, 2015, 01:17:59 AM
Roy Aitken?

That's the one. Then there was John Deehan & Stuart Gray after Gregory resigned. I remember them in charge for a draw at Fulham.
Title: Re: Caretaker Managers
Post by: eamonn on February 16, 2015, 01:55:16 AM
I think Deehan and Gray oversaw two 0-0's, that Fulham one and a home game against Everton when a fan ran onto the pitch, or something?
Title: Re: Caretaker Managers
Post by: Damo70 on February 16, 2015, 04:21:00 AM
Arthur Cox late 1968, before The Doc arrived.

I wanted him as manager when SGT left. The following season he finished even lower than Dr Jo and got Derby relegated. I obviously had great faith in Arthur Cox as two years before I can remember sticking a bet on Derby to win the title. Yes, the proper old first division title! I obviously wasn't totally mad as they did come fifth.
Title: Re: Caretaker Managers
Post by: OzVilla on February 16, 2015, 06:01:42 AM
Pretty sure Ron Wylie was in charge for a game or two in 86'87.

I think we were waiting for Billy McNeil - we needn't have bothered.
Title: Re: Caretaker Managers
Post by: Damo70 on February 16, 2015, 09:38:42 AM
Pretty sure Ron Wylie was in charge for a game or two in 86'87.

I think we were waiting for Billy McNeil - we needn't have bothered.

One game. One name and it tends to jog peoples memory. Hodge.
Title: Re: Caretaker Managers
Post by: Villa in Denmark on February 16, 2015, 03:39:34 PM
I think Deehan and Gray oversaw two 0-0's, that Fulham one and a home game against Everton when a fan ran onto the pitch, or something?
Wasn't the Everton game the night of the protest march from the Church to the Trinity with some sarky, smarmy remarks from Walter Smith afterwards?

Merse hit the bar with about the only decent shot all night?
Title: Re: Caretaker Managers
Post by: OzVilla on February 16, 2015, 09:18:55 PM
Pretty sure Ron Wylie was in charge for a game or two in 86'87.

I think we were waiting for Billy McNeil - we needn't have bothered.

One game. One name and it tends to jog peoples memory. Hodge.

At home to Norwich.
Title: Re: Caretaker Managers
Post by: eamonn on February 17, 2015, 02:03:52 AM
I think Deehan and Gray oversaw two 0-0's, that Fulham one and a home game against Everton when a fan ran onto the pitch, or something?
Wasn't the Everton game the night of the protest march from the Church to the Trinity with some sarky, smarmy remarks from Walter Smith afterwards?

Merse hit the bar with about the only decent shot all night?

Could have been...we need Deanos Mullet on this one. GT came in shortly after and Merse scored on his first game, 1-1 against Chelsea. I don't remember hearing Merson ever give his tuppence on Graham Taylor, which is surprising with the mouth on him.
Title: Re: Caretaker Managers
Post by: Damo70 on February 17, 2015, 03:05:24 AM
Didn't SGT give Merson his England debut? I think he might also have given Keown his England debut in the same game.
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