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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: UK Redsox on January 15, 2015, 09:23:00 AM
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Sat 17 Jan 3pm - Villa Park
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Villa win. Lambert gets a result when he needs it and Liverpool are pretty unimpressive this season.
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Also a Villa win. 2-1. If Gil, the man with skill, plays from kick off I for one will be amazed.
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Villa go 2 behind in the first 8 minutes then come back and destroy Liverpool.
Is it too early in the day to consume magic mushrooms?
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Us 0 Them 1
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a win and I don't care how....time for our first "double" of the season as Liverpool are pretty unimpressive even though the delusional plastic ones in our village still believe they are in a race for their own double of Champions League and fourth place...
UTV
The Doc
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We normally get beat by man u, we didn't. We normally lose to Liverpool but we might not. We probably will but I've gone for a score draw.
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I'll be surprised if Gil plays as well, it'll be too early or some shit like that
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0-2 (Heighway, Neal pen)
We were excellent. Just excellent. We had the same amount of possession, 45% each, and we only had 2 fewer shots. They had 1 and a penalty. The lads were great - the passing and the passion.
We can't compete with the likes of Liverpool. It's only 10 years since they won their last Champions League.
The fans need to realise that we are aiming to score a few more goals this season and be realistic that we may lose next week by a similar score to Bournemouth. They need to manage their own expectations.
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3-1 to Liverpool. Ian Rush to score with a shot that knocks the camera over in the back of the net
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0-2 (Heighway, Neal pen)
We were excellent. Just excellent. We had the same amount of possession, 45% each, and we only had 2 fewer shots. They had 1 and a penalty. The lads were great - the passing and the passion.
We can't compete with the likes of Liverpool. It's only 10 years since they won their last Champions League.
The fans need to realise that we are aiming to score a few more goals this season and be realistic that we may lose next week by a similar score to Bournemouth. They need to manage their own expectations.
Have you noticed Lambert hasn't used the word 'excellent' in his last couple of interviews with the gutter press. He either reads the forums or the PR people at VP have had a quiet word in his shell like!
Which is...er.. excellent!
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We've done the double over them once in my lifetime and can't see that changing. They've turned into another Arsenal/Middlesbrough/Wigan team in that we tend to well away but invariably lose to them at Villa Park.
I can see Gerrard getting one last dubious decision at Villa Park, for old time's sake, and us never threatening to equalise.
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A draw is the best we can hope for I'm afraid!
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I think it's telling that this thread has only been started today. A monumental lack of enthusiasm for most likely another miserable afternoon.
Having said which it will be my first match since October. I'm looking forward to lunch and beer.
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We've done the double over them once in my lifetime and can't see that changing. They've turned into another Arsenal/Middlesbrough/Wigan team in that we tend to well away but invariably lose to them at Villa Park.
I can see Gerrard getting one last dubious decision at Villa Park, for old time's sake, and us never threatening to equalise.
92/93? Deano double at VP and Ronnie Rozenthal hitting the cross bar with the goal gaping? 2-1 at thier place, think Deano scored again.
Even though Deano won't be there Liverpool's defence does look about as steady as a ceasfire in Ukraine so i think we'll score. 1-1.
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0-2 loss, we muster our first shot on goal on 5 minutes and our second after 89.
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There is more chance of us scoring against a team which is under pressure to take all 3 points and put on a show in the process than a side which is happy to sit back. Liverpool still fit that bill despite their form this season and their defence is suspect. I reckon both teams will score and although I expect we will lose, at least we won't be bored stupid again.
Clattenburg is the ref.
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1-0 Villa - goal in first 8 minutes to absolute silence
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I reckon it will be a Desmond draw. No doubt including a Stevie Me penalty.
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I'd play Gil on the other side (he can play either flank apparantely) and play Grealish on the other.
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I'd play Gil on the other side (he can play either flank apparently) and play Grealish on the other.
Yeah sounds good either way.
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Villa 3 - Liverpool 0
Gill (3)
Westwood sent off
Villa charged with not controlling their players.
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I probably wouldn't play England's Fabian Delph. I don't really want him here any more, would love to see him fuck off to Liverpool for7-8m now. Richardson in his place
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0 - ?
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can not see a Villa win at the mo :(
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Villa 3 - Liverpool 0
Gill (3)
Westwood sent off
Villa charged with not controlling their players.
I''ll take that...
UTV
The Doc
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can not see a Villa win at the mo :(
Is "The Mo" the new name for Villa Park now that Birmingham is 100% Muslim ?
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I'd play Gil on the other side (he can play either flank apparantely) and play Grealish on the other.
I doubt very much that either will start and I suspect that Jack won't even be on the bench.
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Imagine what a good manager would do with that team? Alot better than the current cretin, no doubt.
Anyway, 2-0 Villa.
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Really looking forward to this - only my third game of the season and I've been banking loads of baby care duties so Mrs MDC is letting me go at 12 and I can come back "whenever I feel like it"
With all the meeja attention it feels like this could be a significant game so I'm going for an anti climatic 0-0. I'm really interested to see how the team reacts.
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I probably wouldn't play England's Fabian Delph. I don't really want him here any more, would love to see him fuck off to Liverpool for7-8m now. Richardson in his place
Really?
Richardson is crap. Surely playing Delph makes sense. He's our most dynamic midfielder, can beat players, tackles, has energy. Him over Westwood and Cleverley any day of the week.
I'd play a three man midfield of Sanchez, Delph and Gil-similar to the days of Taylor, Boateng and Merson. We just need a modern day Carbone to play up front with our modern day Dion Dublin!
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Gerrard injured I thought?
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Gerrard injured I thought?
A pity!
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1-3 defeat. The only joy is a goal but at the North Stand end not the Holte..............
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1-3 defeat also. Mario to get a couple. Bacuna late freekick for us.
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can not see a Villa win at the mo :(
Is "The Mo" the new name for Villa Park now that Birmingham is 100% Muslim ?
Very good.
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Gerrard injured I thought?
He might make the game according to Rodgers. Sturridge is also back but it looks like our game has come too soon for him.
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1-2 defeat. 1-1 at half time with Delph and Balotelli scoring. Delph for his brace on 82 mins after signing for Liverpool at half time, kisses new badge in front of the holte, nobody notices due to anti Lerner demonstrations, Lambert's says we were excellent. All so predictable...
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I watched the first half of Sunderland-Liverpool last Saturday, and had to prise my eyes open to stay awake.
Sunderland are probably the only team worse than us and Liverpool made a right meal of it.
Infact, they were absolutely fuck boring.
They pass the ball side to side and backwards as much as us.
This could easily be 0-0 with neither side actually crossing the half way line in 90 mins.
But I reckon it'll be 0-1.
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0-2 Liverpool.
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Liverpool win
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Villa win 1-0
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0-0.
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Villa 0 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' 3
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Loss and I fear a very ugly crowd reaction.
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Villa 2 shots on target then lose 3-0
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Any idea whether to expect a good attendance for this one? I doubt it for some reason.
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Us 0 - Them more than 0.
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Villa 0 Liverpool 2
Gerrard dives to get a pen yet again.
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Gil to come off bench on 85 minutes with the score 0-2.
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Soon to be served a rude awakening Scouser on RAWK commented
Managed to get myself a ticket for this in the holt end though with seven other reds. Anyone had any experience being in with the villa home fans before?
Do these idiots never learn? Do you think he's 'super excited'?'
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Soon to be served a rude awakening Scouser on RAWK commented
Managed to get myself a ticket for this in the holt end though with seven other reds. Anyone had any experience being in with the villa home fans before?
Do these idiots never learn? Do you think he's 'super excited'?'
Do you think he might be telling fibs?
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A Scouser telling fibs? Say it ain't so!
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Any idea whether to expect a good attendance for this one? I doubt it for some reason.
Based on the select-a-seat thing so far we're probably looking at upwards of 37k
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Soon to be served a rude awakening Scouser on RAWK commented
Managed to get myself a ticket for this in the holt end though with seven other reds. Anyone had any experience being in with the villa home fans before?
Do these idiots never learn? Do you think he's 'super excited'?'
Do you think he might be telling fibs?
If he sits next to me i'll smash him all over the place. As well as wondering how the smeg he got into my place and is sitting on my sofa with me.
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Soon to be served a rude awakening Scouser on RAWK commented
Managed to get myself a ticket for this in the holt end though with seven other reds. Anyone had any experience being in with the villa home fans before?
Do these idiots never learn? Do you think he's 'super excited'?'
Do you think he might be telling fibs?
I had 4 seats in the Holte and someone else wanted to come at the last minute and I moved to a row of 5 and there was plenty of choice - this was on Monday. This bod may be fibbing but there were plenty of seats spare when I changed mine.
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Soon to be served a rude awakening Scouser on RAWK commented
Managed to get myself a ticket for this in the holt end though with seven other reds. Anyone had any experience being in with the villa home fans before?
Do these idiots never learn? Do you think he's 'super excited'?'
Do you think he might be telling fibs?
If he really has got tickets for 'the Holt End' he's been scammed good and proper. Let's hope so...
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Soon to be served a rude awakening Scouser on RAWK commented
Managed to get myself a ticket for this in the holt end though with seven other reds. Anyone had any experience being in with the villa home fans before?
Do these idiots never learn? Do you think he's 'super excited'?'
Do you think he might be telling fibs?
If he sits next to me i'll smash him all over the place. As well as wondering how the smeg he got into my place and is sitting on my sofa with me.
As if anyone would break into your place, see your DVD collection and hang around!
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0-2 for them - Rush & Barnes
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I know this sounds crazy but I think we will score a goal 1-1 Benteke, another point as we crawl on our hands and knees on our desperate mind numbing journey to safety.
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2-0 to us.Have faith brothers and sisters.
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One apiece. I'd take that all day long
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Liverpool will have 91% possession but we'll win 1-0 with a Benteke screamer.
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Liverpool will have 91% possession but we'll win 1-0 with a Benteke screamer.
And Lambert will say "The only stats that count are...."
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Liverpool will have 91% possession but we'll win 1-0 with a Benteke screamer.
And Lambert will say "The only stats that count are...."
If we win on Saturday he can say and do whatever he likes.
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Liverpool will have 91% possession but we'll win 1-0 with a Benteke screamer.
And Lambert will say "The only stats that count are...."
If we win on Saturday he can say and do whatever he likes.
I look forward to it reflecting reality - especially if we win!
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1-1 bore draw
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On paper 0-2 loss
However with Delph back and Gil and baker with Okore I will say 1-0 win to villa Boys
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2-1 us.
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I don't know, but through all the doom we have had to endure in the past few weeks I just have a feeling we are due a win. Hopefully we will win 2-1 and we can all be a bit happier (please).
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1-1 bore draw
1-1! 1-1 a bore draw? How would that be boring? Scoring an actual goal. Have you seen us? That sounds like the Arsenal v United 79 cup final to me. 1-1, you lucky lucky bast**ds.
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(http://i58.tinypic.com/14y9tvd.jpg)
Imagine what a good manager would do with that team? Alot better than the current cretin, no doubt.
Anyway, 2-0 Villa.
I was thinking that
Just keep cleverly, Weiman and gabby away from ever starting . Its like its punishment to us for some reason to bore everyone to death.
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And the score
5 1 villa
Oh good times
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(http://i58.tinypic.com/14y9tvd.jpg)
Imagine what a good manager would do with that team? Alot better than the current cretin, no doubt.
Anyway, 2-0 Villa.
I was thinking that
Just keep cleverly, Weiman and gabby away from ever starting . Its like its punishment to us for some reason to bore everyone to death.
Like you, I would like to see Bacuna involved in an attacking position as I think he creates opportunities.
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To have any chance of winning we have to stop Liverpool scoring .I don't think we will.Us 1 Them 2 Baker to get this weeks red card.
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(http://i58.tinypic.com/14y9tvd.jpg)
Imagine what a good manager would do with that team? Alot better than the current cretin, no doubt.
Anyway, 2-0 Villa.
I was thinking that
Just keep cleverly, Weiman and gabby away from ever starting . Its like its punishment to us for some reason to bore everyone to death.
Like you, I would like to see Bacuna involved in an attacking position as I think he creates opportunities.
I'm not keen on having Sanchez and Westwood in the same midfield. One or the other for me.
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I like this.
Carles won't start however. I hope he comes on, however.
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I think Gil will start. I mean, he has to, doesn't he? Lambert talked about bringing a creative player in, it'd be a bit strange if he didn't put him straight in!
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Nathan Baker has declared himself "ready for action" ahead of tomorrow's match against Liverpool.
The centre-back has faced a frustrating nine-week spell on the sidelines after picking up a knee injury in the goalless draw at West Ham in early November.
Villa are down to the bare bones on the central defender front with Ron Vlaar and Philippe Senderos injured and Ciaran Clark suspended.
So Baker looks set to partner Jores Okore in the heart of the claret and blues' backline.
He is looking forward to linking up with the Danish defender and eager to grace the Villa Park turf once more.
He said: "I'm feeling good. I've just come back from injury and it's been good to be back training.
"It's been frustrating. I've been out for nine weeks now.
"I came back at the start of last week and have trained since.
"I got on the bench against Leicester and it was good to be back involved.
"My return has come right on time. They said nine weeks exactly.
"I feel ready to play. There are only two available centre-backs so hopefully I'll be involved.
"Jores and I have played together in pre-season and we see each other and work together every day in training.
"In training he's just like what you see in the games really.
"He's strong, a good tackler and quality on the ball."
Baker received the man of the match award in Villa's single-goal victory at Anfield in September.
And the 23-year-old sees no reason why his side cannot take maximum points against the Reds.
He added: "It was a good game for me up there but I was just doing my job, defending and keeping the ball out of the net.
"I think everyone looks at the previous game where we've played each other.
"Hopefully that's in the back of their minds as well.
"I think whatever team Liverpool put out, it will always be strong.
"But we're confident going into it."
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Without 5 centre backs this season we'd have been fucked
I'd go sanchez and westy holding with Delph furthest fwd and then I think you may as well give Gil a go with gabby and benteke
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Apart from a win, I hope the Villa fans give Stevie Me a good old fashioned send off. The twat.
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Without 5 centre backs this season we'd have been fucked
I'd go sanchez and westy holding with Delph furthest fwd and then I think you may as well give Gil a go with gabby and benteke
Wouldn't play Gabby at home, he can't seem to find space, he is very static and his touch is awful. We need to do more business because Weimann is no threat either. Suppose it will have to be at least one of them as we have no alternatives I guess.
I hope Delph is told to not be over concerned about defending and to try and play close to the front men. When are we going to see a goal from a midfielder, don't think we've had one so far?
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Apart from a win, I hope the Villa fans give Stevie Me a good old fashioned send off. The twat.
What's George Boateng up to these days? Couldn't we sign him on a one match deal specifically to come and break Gerrard's legs?
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Apart from a win, I hope the Villa fans give Stevie Me a good old fashioned send off. The twat.
Scored more goals against us than any other team, apparently. Twelvety. Most of them by falling over to get a free kick. The shifty-eyed inbred wassock.
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Highly unlikely that Grealish will even be on the bench tomorrow.
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5-1 Villa.By half time.A manager to get his cards-Rodgers.
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A comfortable 0-2 to them.
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Highly unlikely that Grealish will even be on the bench tomorrow.
He's starting for the U21s tonight.
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Exactly.
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Villa 0 Luckypool 0.
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Wrap up warm folks it's freeeeeeeezin in Brum
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Bore draw.
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For some reason Im looking forward to this game. Not sure why really. Firstly we are shite, its bloody cold and I'm going on my own for the first time in years because my son cant make it.
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It will warm 4 deg at K before dropping.
From BBC. With VP at only 347 feet we should be safe:
A band of rain, sleet and snow will spread east across the area on Saturday morning. 2-4 cm of snow are likely in places above 200 m,
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Can see this being a v uncomfortable day indeed. Between lamberts ineptitude on the pitch and the off the pitch stuff I think liverpool will enjoy today. No pressure on them.
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I do hope they don't risk Gerrard's hamstring. His goal scoring record against us is very good.
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I do hope they don't risk Gerrard's hamstring. His goal scoring record against us is very good.
He makes a massive difference to them .
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ballotelly hat trick
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Here's one for the boffins, when did we last play Man. United, Liverpool and Arsenal at home in a league season all at 3pm on a Saturday?
Those three are always stick on TV games.
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Here's one for the boffins, when did we last play Man. United, Liverpool and Arsenal at home in a league season all at 3pm on a Saturday?
Those three are always stick on TV games.
When we were worth watching?
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Doubt we will but I would like to see us go with a starting line up of:
Guzan
Hutton Okore Clark Cissokho
Sanchez Delph
Bacuna Gil Grealish
Benteke
Subs: Given, Lowton, Baker, Westwood, Cole, Weimann, Agbonlahor
Edit- is Clark suspended?
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Yep, one game for the red last week.
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Here's one for the boffins, when did we last play Man. United, Liverpool and Arsenal at home in a league season all at 3pm on a Saturday?
Those three are always stick on TV games.
Was going to say 92_93 but the arsenal game was a Monday night at christmas if I recall correctly. And we won all three. Sigh.
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I do hope they don't risk Gerrard's hamstring. His goal scoring record against us is very good.
He makes a massive difference to them .
I hope he plays. Where as he used to be the nemesis for us he is now our best hope.
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Just arrived in Aston nice and sunny but only 5c
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Here's one for the boffins, when did we last play Man. United, Liverpool and Arsenal at home in a league season all at 3pm on a Saturday?
Those three are always stick on TV games.
It just shows how those 3 have fallen off the peak of top teams.
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Just arrived in Aston nice and sunny but only 5c
How is Aston today?
And save me a parking place pls?
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Doubt we will but I would like to see us go with a starting line up of:
Guzan
Hutton Okore Clark Cissokho
Sanchez Westwood Delph
Bacuna Gil
Benteke
For me this change.
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Clark is suspended.
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It will warm 4 deg at K before dropping.
From BBC. With VP at only 347 feet we should be safe:
A band of rain, sleet and snow will spread east across the area on Saturday morning. 2-4 cm of snow are likely in places above 200 m,
It'll be minus 8 for fans joining the protest.
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Just arrived in Aston nice and sunny but only 5c
How is Aston today?
And save me a parking place pls?
It's busy already so get your skates on
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Grealish played last night.
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I think it may have been 1986/87 (last played Man U, Arsenal & Liverpool on a Saturday at 3pm), not wishing to tempt fate but we know how that season ended up.
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Doubt we will but I would like to see us go with a starting line up of:
Guzan
Hutton Okore Clark Cissokho
Sanchez Westwood Delph
Bacuna Gil
Benteke
For me this change.
Think Gil plays on the right and cuts inside with his cultured left foot ........
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Same old shit playing.
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Well get ready to be disappointed. Gil isn't starting. Same fucking boring line up as usual
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