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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: SoccerHQ on September 13, 2014, 08:39:18 PM
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Anyone got a clue why this happens in football? Is it just mental e.g. players on their way to Anfield tonight will remember good players from previous years and perform confidently.
Unbeaten in 4 years at Anfield and we usually do alright at the likes of Arsenal and Chelsea. Yet we seem beaten before we kick off at the two Manchester clubs.
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I can only guess that if you have the same players as played well at some ground the previous year, then they might carry over those good associations psychologically. As you usually play one game a year at most grounds, it doesn't take much to build up good feelings about one or two of them.
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Shame we can't buy a result at home against Liverpool or Arsenal. Hopefully will start to put that right next week.
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The times we outplayed the scousers and lost 3-0 in the late 70's made me mad a badger - I love the fact we are turning them over regularly there now
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The times we outplayed the scousers and lost 3-0 in the late 70's made me mad a badger - I love the fact we are turning them over regularly there now
Happened in the mid 90s aswell under Little, think we lost 3-0 there 4 seasons running.
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Ayresome Park was a big bogey ground for us back in the day.
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The times we outplayed the scousers and lost 3-0 in the late 70's made me mad a badger - I love the fact we are turning them over regularly there now
Happened in the mid 90s aswell under Little, think we lost 3-0 there 4 seasons running.
It was when we played well and should have beaten them that it really got me!
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You could take "pick" of a few bogey places. :)
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Sometimes it has to do with style of play. Like our ability to counter attack tending work against certain teams more than others. Also if we play at quite a edgy ground like Arsenal's can get sometimes then that can work into our favour as long as we can keep the game tight for the first half and match them physically. Arsenal like us often are better away from home (although this has changed over the last year). For what ever reason since I have supported Villa we have noramlly done better away. I think a lot of good footballing teams and hard working smaller clubs enjoy playing at VP. It is mostly on big nights or the odd crunch league match where the big match home atmosphere works to our adventedge.
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Ours has been Villa Park over the past few years. Hopefully that will change this season.
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There's no reason to justify why our record at anfield and the emirates is quite so much better than at old Trafford, White Hart lane or the etihad. Nor why Man U's record at villa park is so outstanding while mourinho's is terrible
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The decent record at Anfield goes back further than just the Lambert years. We won at Anfield in the first Prem season (Saunders winner), John Gregory won twice there as boss, MON won there once and had a good draw which could have been a win had Crouch not equalized, and now two wins under Lambert.
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The times we outplayed the scousers and lost 3-0 in the late 70's made me mad a badger - I love the fact we are turning them over regularly there now
Happened in the mid 90s aswell under Little, think we lost 3-0 there 4 seasons running.
the semi final at OT and fowler's hatrick springs to mind- wankers. Very pleased with the 3 pts. Hopefully it's the start of an Odessy : )
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The reason the likes of Man U do well at Villa Park is that they respect the place. It's a proper, traditional football ground with more history than most. Ferguson knew it and made sure his teams were well up for it.
I think others have done the same, due to our relative paucity in quality we have struggled to match them.
We went to the Emirates and did them over and psychologically we have that edge. Anfield is one of those places, we've done a job on Gerrard each time and shut the scousers up; they really do only sing when they're winning and their (old) boy wonder is doing his thing.
Long may it continue. We just need to work out Old Trafford on a regular basis now.
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We never seemed to get a result at Highfield Road as I remember.
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We never seemed to get a result at Highfield Road as I remember.
What? We hardly ever lost there.
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The reason the likes of Man U do well at Villa Park is that they respect the place. It's a proper, traditional football ground with more history than most. Ferguson knew it and made sure his teams were well up for it.
I've said that many a time. It also happens at Anfield when they're not doing well and last season Manchester United had some shocking results at home. The opposition are up for it and you aren't.
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The reason the likes of Man U do well at Villa Park is that they respect the place. It's a proper, traditional football ground with more history than most. Ferguson knew it and made sure his teams were well up for it.
I've said that many a time. It also happens at Anfield when they're not doing well and last season Manchester United had some shocking results at home. The opposition are up for it and you aren't.
Was going to make a similar point. I think when Liverpool were under performing during the 90s that they were sometimes weighed down by the levels of expectations from their fans, and so sometimes when facing a team like us at Anfield then unless they got off to a storming start it made it hard for them to relax. The ironic thing about that is that at times during that period we were just as good as them, or at least not far off their level. Man Utd did so well at home partly because even if it took them a long time to get the lead they very rarely panic and slowly worn the other team down.
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RT @bonesy81: @GaryLineker who was your bogey team? < More of a bogey ground, Villa Park. Never scored there.
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RT @bonesy81: @GaryLineker who was your bogey team? < More of a bogey ground, Villa Park. Never scored there.
Yeah think he mentioned that a few weeks ago on MOTD or maybe a interview.
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In the Allan Evans testimonial game programme, Gary Lineker credited Allan as the reason he never scored at Villa Park.
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We never seemed to get a result at Highfield Road as I remember.
What? We hardly ever lost there.
We never used to lose to Coventry for years home or away but then around the turn of the nineties they started to beat us at Highfield Road. I know they beat us there in the two seasons we were runners up (2-1 and 3-0, the latter on Boxing Day.) They also did us there 1-0 in BFR's first season. And then there was the home game where we only had 90 minutes to score a winner against them whereas United had two weeks to turn the Sheffield Wednesday game round.
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We've beaten Liverpool at Anfield six times in the Premier League. Similar against Arsenal.
Eight wins at Middlesborough seems to where we had most success.
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We've beaten Liverpool at Anfield six times in the Premier League. Similar against Arsenal.
Eight wins at Middlesborough seems to where we had most success.
Great. If we want a good day out we have to go to Liverpool, Middlesbrough or pay seven quid for a pint in London where, in my experience they have no concept of having any head on a pint of lager.
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Selhurst Park. V Palace & Charlton & Wimbledon. Struggling to remember any wins. BFR and Brian Little both lost heir jobs abruptly after defeats there.
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Selhurst Park. V Palace & Charlton & Wimbledon. Struggling to remember any wins. BFR and Brian Little both lost heir jobs abruptly after defeats there.
Apart from the Dalian game I totally agree. In fact if I was a mod I would have posted SELHURST PARK and just closed the thread after that. Charlton as good as relegating us, Garry Thompson derailing our title bid and a Vinnie Jones penalty knocking us out of a midweek FA cup replay. Nightmare journey and when you are right by the ground nobody seems to know how to direct you there. My thirteen year old son knows all about my 'love' for that ground. If he annoys me I threaten to take him there!
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Our decent record at Coventry began from 1994 onwards when we won 1-0 with a Tony Daley goal. We won six straight games there plus we usually beat them at Villa Park too. Savo Milosevic in particular liked playing them. They did win an FA Cup tie in that time and beat us with 2 goals from Robbie Keane in John Gregory's time but generally we called the shots in that match-up before eventually helping relegate them in 2001. We haven't seen them since. Shame.
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Remember the 'we'll be back' banner.
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Am I right in saying the Robbie Keane game was just after he had signed for them rather than us and may even have been his debut? As for the banner. We remember but we aren't holding our breath.
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Am I right in saying the Robbie Keane game was just after he had signed for them rather than us and may even have been his debut? As for the banner. We remember but we aren't holding our breath.
yes that was he situation with Keane at the time, especially when we were desperate for a striker other than Dublin and the out of form Joachim.
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Selhurst Park. V Palace & Charlton & Wimbledon. Struggling to remember any wins. BFR and Brian Little both lost heir jobs abruptly after defeats there.
Apart from the Dalian game I totally agree. In fact if I was a mod I would have posted SELHURST PARK and just closed the thread after that. Charlton as good as relegating us, Garry Thompson derailing our title bid and a Vinnie Jones penalty knocking us out of a midweek FA cup replay. Nightmare journey and when you are right by the ground nobody seems to know how to direct you there. My thirteen year old son knows all about my 'love' for that ground. If he annoys me I threaten to take him there!
It was very strange when for a time in the late eighties/early nineties we seemed to win almost every time we played north of the river and lose over the water.
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I agree Dave. I don't think I ever saw us lose at White Hart Lane in those years. Including when we gave them a two goal lead and won 2-5 and the night under SGT when I walked away convinced we would win the title. My memories of Highbury are the 2-3 when McInally scored a couple, 0-1 wins courtesy of Chris Price and Tony Daley and a goaless draw under BFR. There was however a 5-0 when David Platt ended up in goal and I think Kevin Campbell got a hat trick.
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I agree Dave. I don't think I ever saw us lose at White Hart Lane in those years. Including when we gave them a two goal lead and won 2-5 and the night under SGT when I walked away convinced we would win the title. My memories of Highbury are the 2-3 when McInally scored a couple, 0-1 wins courtesy of Chris Price and Tony Daley and a goaless draw under BFR. There was however a 5-0 when David Platt ended up in goal and I think Kevin Campbell got a hat trick.
three straight wins at Highbury in 1993, two 1-0's (Daley 1-0 and Atkinson 1-0 cup game) plus a last minute 2-1 victory (Townsend and Whittingham). White Hart Lane was a happy ground too, 2-0 in 90, 5-2 in BFR first year, 2-1 and 4-3 in 1994, 1-0 in 1995. Amazing to think how poor our record at WHL is now when for a while we were their big bogey side.
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And meanwhile we were getting turned over regularly by Palace, Charlton, Millwall and Wimbledon.
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Notts County was a particularly bad ground for us in the early 1980's, apart from when we beat them 6-0 in the FA cup. We then went back there in the league a few days later and lost again. Wretched place that was.
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I remember when we had an amazing record v spurs. Twice we were 2-0 down and went on to win 5-2. I think the second time we scored 5 in the last 20 minutes.
Then as spurs got better under redknapp we just couldn't beat them. I can't remember the last time we did? They normally completely outclass us too. Under mon they murdered us 0-0 a couple of times
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I think it's why we have been so poor at home of late. Visitors are up for it and we haven't been good enough.
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I remember when we had an amazing record v spurs. Twice we were 2-0 down and went on to win 5-2. I think the second time we scored 5 in the last 20 minutes.
Then as spurs got better under redknapp we just couldn't beat them. I can't remember the last time we did? They normally completely outclass us too. Under mon they murdered us 0-0 a couple of times
4-2 was the lots of goals late in the game and after a penalty it seemed we were having our own goal of the season contest.
Selhurst Park. even the name makes me shudder. i can now see it from my bedroom window. Like black people and the 'n' word I have decided that Selhurst Park offends me so much that I've moved here to own the offensive thing. I'll be able to use it as a jokey word with other Villa fans and thus detracting from what it actually has meant for years. Selhurst Park will be pwned (or whatever the kids say) this season.
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As already mentioned, Ayresome and Selhurst Parks come most readily to mind for me. St Marys for a while too. And Upton Park. Though I suspect those last two are figments of my imagination
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Selhurst Park. V Palace & Charlton & Wimbledon. Struggling to remember any wins. BFR and Brian Little both lost heir jobs abruptly after defeats there.
Apart from the Dalian game I totally agree. In fact if I was a mod I would have posted SELHURST PARK and just closed the thread after that. Charlton as good as relegating us, Garry Thompson derailing our title bid and a Vinnie Jones penalty knocking us out of a midweek FA cup replay. Nightmare journey and when you are right by the ground nobody seems to know how to direct you there. My thirteen year old son knows all about my 'love' for that ground. If he annoys me I threaten to take him there!
Dalian's goal v Wimbledon was at Plough Lane.
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Selhurst Park. V Palace & Charlton & Wimbledon. Struggling to remember any wins. BFR and Brian Little both lost heir jobs abruptly after defeats there.
Apart from the Dalian game I totally agree. In fact if I was a mod I would have posted SELHURST PARK and just closed the thread after that. Charlton as good as relegating us, Garry Thompson derailing our title bid and a Vinnie Jones penalty knocking us out of a midweek FA cup replay. Nightmare journey and when you are right by the ground nobody seems to know how to direct you there. My thirteen year old son knows all about my 'love' for that ground. If he annoys me I threaten to take him there!
No, it was Selhurst.
Dalian's goal v Wimbledon was at Plough Lane.
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The Etihad. 1 win and 0 draws in 13 attempts.
Close the thread.
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The Etihad. 1 win and 0 draws in 13 attempts.
Close the thread.
Sorry that should be two wins!!
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Without checking, I think the only time we won at Plough Lane was in 1989-90. We also beat Charlton that season at Selhurst and beats Wimbledon there in 1992-93.
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Dalians's goal was definitely at Selhurst. I only went to Plough Lane once and that was for a 0-0 under Dr Jo. It is a shame that I went to Selhurst so many times. So many hours of my life I will never get back and so much energy drained from my soul.
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The Etihad. 1 win and 0 draws in 13 attempts.
Close the thread.
Sorry. I realise the thread is about bogey grounds. I have twisted it into places you would rather die than be there. Selhurst Park, The Manor Ground and Kenilworth Road. It says everything that I have come up with three grounds that beat The Small Heath Alliance Arena.
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The other obvious bogey ground for me is Old Trafford. In my life we have only won there twice, in 2009 and 1983 ( plus the small matter of a League Cup final in 1977).
We don't play there very often but we invariably come unstuck at Turf Moor.
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Until Lambert arrived our record at Carrow Road was pretty crap over the last 30 odd years.
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Charlton. Don't think I've ever seen us win there and been to most games there from early 90s whenever they've been in the top flight.
Fulham for most of the 2000s too I doubt if we won there, certainly don't remember seeing us win there.
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The other obvious bogey ground for me is Old Trafford. In my life we have only won there twice, in 2009 and 1983 ( plus the small matter of a League Cup final in 1977).
We don't play there very often but we invariably come unstuck at Turf Moor.
That Old Trafford one is embarrassing beyond belief. 3 wins since the end of WW2, 1953, 1983 and 2009!!!
I think we tend to draw a lot at Turf Moor but haven't won their since the 1930s.
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I can remember beating Charlton under O'Leary where they missed a penalty in the last minute.
Anything in Manchester; in the last 20 plus years I can recall two draws at Old Trafford, with the 1-1 under BFR and a 0-0 under Little*, one win in 2009 and then at Man City we beat them 3-1 at Maine Road, 2-0 not so long back and most recently in the League Cup. Even at Oldham I can recall us drawing too.
That must be something like 12 points from 45 games.
[*the game where they asked us if we'd ever done the double. well yes we have thanks]
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Selhurst Park. V Palace & Charlton & Wimbledon. Struggling to remember any wins. BFR and Brian Little both lost heir jobs abruptly after defeats there.
Yeah we're always toss at Selhurst, ridiculous we can never win there. Don't like that this years game is on midweek aswell.
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I remember when we had an amazing record v spurs. Twice we were 2-0 down and went on to win 5-2. I think the second time we scored 5 in the last 20 minutes.
Then as spurs got better under redknapp we just couldn't beat them. I can't remember the last time we did? They normally completely outclass us too. Under mon they murdered us 0-0 a couple of times
6 years ago this weekend, NRC and Young scored. Spurs have been a poor matchup for us in recent years, we struggle against their pace and power in midfield and their defence has coped fine with our attackers.
Hopefully the games will be closer this season as our aggregate score against them in Lambert's reign is not pretty reading at all if you count the league cup game aswell.
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Charlton. Don't think I've ever seen us win there and been to most games there from early 90s whenever they've been in the top flight.
Fulham for most of the 2000s too I doubt if we won there, certainly don't remember seeing us win there.
I thought our record at Craven Cottage was better than it actually was, was sure we won a few times there under MON but turns out it was just the one in 8 games under him and other villa managers.
Surprising as you'd think Fulham would be a decent away ground as we took thousands there every season.
Blackburn is similar, our record is much better up there.
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I saw us win 6-3 at Fulham around 1967. It pissed rain and I got drenched.
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Charlton. Don't think I've ever seen us win there and been to most games there from early 90s whenever they've been in the top flight.
Fulham for most of the 2000s too I doubt if we won there, certainly don't remember seeing us win there.
I thought our record at Craven Cottage was better than it actually was, was sure we won a few times there under MON but turns out it was just the one in 8 games under him and other villa managers.
Surprising as you'd think Fulham would be a decent away ground as we took thousands there every season.
Blackburn is similar, our record is much better up there.
my main impression of games against Fulham and Charlton away was of usually quite entertaining draws. Never been to ewood.
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Charlton. Don't think I've ever seen us win there and been to most games there from early 90s whenever they've been in the top flight.
Fulham for most of the 2000s too I doubt if we won there, certainly don't remember seeing us win there.
we won at Charlton in 2001 when Gregory was boss but soon to quit, we wore that shitty silver/grey NTL away kit and scored thanks to Angel and Vassell. We had a decent 3-3 draw there the season before, one of Ginola's best games.
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Charlton. Don't think I've ever seen us win there and been to most games there from early 90s whenever they've been in the top flight.
Fulham for most of the 2000s too I doubt if we won there, certainly don't remember seeing us win there.
we won at Charlton in 2001 when Gregory was boss but soon to quit, we wore that shitty silver/grey NTL away kit and scored thanks to Angel and Vassell. We had a decent 3-3 draw there the season before, one of Ginola's best games.
We won there in DOL's first season as well. They missed a pen to equalise with the last kick of the game.
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I remember being at Ewood Park for a cup game back in the eighties. I think we drew 1-1 and won the replay. The match was memorable due to the fact some lunatic managed to scale up the support columns and hang off the rafters. The surprise wasn't that he got up there but, how the daft bugger got down. The last I remember was seeing him dangling there, what happened after that is anyone's guess.
Awaits post saying that was me.
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I remember being at Ewood Park for a cup game back in the eighties. I think we drew 1-1 and won the replay. The match was memorable due to the fact some lunatic managed to scale up the support columns and hang off the rafters. The surprise wasn't that he got up there but, how the daft bugger got down. The last I remember was seeing him dangling there, what happened after that is anyone's guess.
Awaits post saying that was me.
FA Cup January 1990. Scott Sellers and Simon Barker for them, Ormandroyd and somebody else for us and then won the replay with a Daley inspired performance 4-2 I think.
And no, it wasn't me.
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I remember being at Ewood Park for a cup game back in the eighties. I think we drew 1-1 and won the replay. The match was memorable due to the fact some lunatic managed to scale up the support columns and hang off the rafters. The surprise wasn't that he got up there but, how the daft bugger got down. The last I remember was seeing him dangling there, what happened after that is anyone's guess.
Awaits post saying that was me.
The ground at that point was an absolute relic. It was amazing it was actually open, it was by far and away the shittiest shithole I'd been to till then.
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Filbert Street - I am sure under MON they turned us there a couple of times, but the worst when Heskey tumbled about to get Soutgate sent off and we lost 3-0.
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I remember being at Ewood Park for a cup game back in the eighties. I think we drew 1-1 and won the replay. The match was memorable due to the fact some lunatic managed to scale up the support columns and hang off the rafters. The surprise wasn't that he got up there but, how the daft bugger got down. The last I remember was seeing him dangling there, what happened after that is anyone's guess.
Awaits post saying that was me.
FA Cup January 1990. Scott Sellers and Simon Barker for them, Ormandroyd and somebody else for us and then won the replay with a Daley inspired performance 4-2 I think.
And no, it wasn't me.
I think Dave Shelley may be talking about the March 1980 game when we drew 1-1 away (they scored a last minute equaliser) and won the replay a few days later (1-0 I think). I definitely remember a bloke climbing the rafters just before kick off as there was a really raucous away support that afternoon and chants of Tarzan to him.
Next round was the QF v W Ham away......
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I was at the Ewood Park cup game. It was during our great spell around the turn of the year '89/'90. I think we won the replay 3-1 and I seem to remember the ex nose Kennedy scoring for them. My first visit to Ewood was in our promotion season. Platt scored on his debut and I think it was Steve Archibald who got their late winner in a 3-2. I also remember being there when Sid was in their side and they hammered one of the nails in our coffin towards the end of our attempt to win the first Premier League title.
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See the last H+V. Been to Ewood loads but it holds bad memories for semifinalgate.
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I remember being at Ewood Park for a cup game back in the eighties. I think we drew 1-1 and won the replay. The match was memorable due to the fact some lunatic managed to scale up the support columns and hang off the rafters. The surprise wasn't that he got up there but, how the daft bugger got down. The last I remember was seeing him dangling there, what happened after that is anyone's guess.
Awaits post saying that was me.
FA Cup January 1990. Scott Sellers and Simon Barker for them, Ormandroyd and somebody else for us and then won the replay with a Daley inspired performance 4-2 I think.
And no, it wasn't me.
I think Dave Shelley may be talking about the March 1980 game when we drew 1-1 away (they scored a last minute equaliser) and won the replay a few days later (1-0 I think). I definitely remember a bloke climbing the rafters just before kick off as there was a really raucous away support that afternoon and chants of Tarzan to him.
Next round was the QF v W Ham away......
That's the one Pat. It had to be then because I left Brum in 1986. I drove a minibus full of us down to London for that WHU game and, remember it for the hostile atmosphere and the way we lost in the last minute. I also remember seeing a foul throw awarded against Ivor Linton in that game, the first time I'd ever seen a foul throw given at that level in all the years I'd been watching football.
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Ayresome Park was a big bogey ground for us back in the day.
Seconded.
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Selhurst Park. V Palace & Charlton & Wimbledon. Struggling to remember any wins. BFR and Brian Little both lost heir jobs abruptly after defeats there.
The four one cup defeat to Palace was a shocker. It really says something when you stuggle against two teams on the same ground...
Anyway, if we can't end that record this season, then maybe we never will.
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Selhurst Park is the worst one, we never bloody win there and it's a craphole as well.
Didn't seem to have a great record at Craven Cottage either, even missing 2 penalties and conceding a last minute equaliser one year.
Wigan and Middlesbrough are 2 teams that we were better away against, than at home.
We seem to always win at Molineux too.
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Ayresome Park was a big bogey ground for us back in the day.
Seconded.
The only time I can recall Villa winning at Ayrsome Park was in 1992, Dean Saunders 2nd game for the Villa, we won 3-2 and he scored twice. Think Dalian got the other and Paul McGrath scored an OG for them.
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Ayresome Park was a big bogey ground for us back in the day.
Seconded.
The only time I can recall Villa winning at Ayrsome Park was in 1992, Dean Saunders 2nd game for the Villa, we won 3-2 and he scored twice. Think Dalian got the other and Paul McGrath scored an OG for them.
We also won there in the Cup in 93-94 I think. 2-1 or 2-0?
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Ayresome Park was a big bogey ground for us back in the day.
Seconded.
The only time I can recall Villa winning at Ayrsome Park was in 1992, Dean Saunders 2nd game for the Villa, we won 3-2 and he scored twice. Think Dalian got the other and Paul McGrath scored an OG for them.
We also won there in the Cup in 93-94 I think. 2-1 or 2-0?
1987-88 1-0 in the league cup.
http://www.astonvilla-mad.co.uk/head_to_head/aston_villa/vs/middlesbrough/index.shtml
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Ayresome Park was a big bogey ground for us back in the day.
Seconded.
The only time I can recall Villa winning at Ayrsome Park was in 1992, Dean Saunders 2nd game for the Villa, we won 3-2 and he scored twice. Think Dalian got the other and Paul McGrath scored an OG for them.
We also won there in the Cup in 93-94 I think. 2-1 or 2-0?
1987-88 1-0 in the league cup.
http://www.astonvilla-mad.co.uk/head_to_head/aston_villa/vs/middlesbrough/index.shtml
My bad I was thinking Ayrsome Park was Sunderland's old ground.
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Ayresome Park was a big bogey ground for us back in the day.
Seconded.
I don't know about that - Ayresome Park was always lucky for us. Well, you were lucky to get home in one piece.
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Ayresome Park was a big bogey ground for us back in the day.
Seconded.
I don't know about that - Ayresome Park was always lucky for us. Well, you were lucky to get home in one piece.
Especially on Valentine's Day (I think) 1988.
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Doncaster seem to be one of our bogey teams, we've never beaten them at their own ground - even though that ground has changed fairly recently.
http://www.soccerbase.com/teams/team.sd?team_id=154&team2_id=800&teamTabs=h2h
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Doncaster <shudders>
We've only lost 4/19 at the Hawthorns since 10th November 1976 (ooh exactly a year before I was born)
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Ayresome Park was a big bogey ground for us back in the day.
Seconded.
I don't know about that - Ayresome Park was always lucky for us. Well, you were lucky to get home in one piece.
To be fair Ayresome Park was a very lucky ground for us on 2nd May 1981.
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McGrath bless Bosko Jankovic. RIP.
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Never remember us doing much at The Dell when Southampton played there. Horrible ground
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Darren summed up perfectly for me in April: "We played shit and Selhurst Park is a shit ground."
I have felt that way after about 99% of my visits to that hell hole.
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Doncaster seem to be one of our bogey teams, we've never beaten them at their own ground - even though that ground has changed fairly recently.
http://www.soccerbase.com/teams/team.sd?team_id=154&team2_id=800&teamTabs=h2h
Went there for a friday night game when we were in the 3rd division. Doncaster were near the bottom, they booed their manager when he came out.
Doncaster won 2-1, the manger was Lawrie McMenemy.
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Doncaster seem to be one of our bogey teams, we've never beaten them at their own ground - even though that ground has changed fairly recently.
http://www.soccerbase.com/teams/team.sd?team_id=154&team2_id=800&teamTabs=h2h
Went there for a friday night game when we were in the 3rd division. Doncaster were near the bottom, they booed their manager when he came out.
Doncaster won 2-1, the manger was Lawrie McMenemy.
In fairness have we played at Doncaster that much in living memory? I still struggle to call it a bogey ground if you only play there once in a blue moon, even if you do lose every time.
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Never remember us doing much at The Dell when Southampton played there. Horrible ground
I think we won 2-1 the year we won the league and there was a 4-1 victory too under Gregory. St Mary's has generally been a good ground for us (touch wood)
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I can recall us battering them 4-1 when we were top under Gregory.
I can equally remember a 4-1 tonking a few years before when Le Tissier scored a few. Neil Cox ended up in goal and we [well not me] got on the pitch at the end and broke the goals. They beat us on a week night 2-1 as well in the mid-90s.
As for Doncaster, I can (unfortunately) recall the 3-0 under O'Leary, but apart from that we have only played them once more in the past 20 odd years up there and that was a 0-0 at their new place.
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Darren summed up perfectly for me in April: "We played shit and Selhurst Park is a shit ground."
I have felt that way after about 99% of my visits to that hell hole.
Big Daz always sums up perfectly.
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On the flip side anyone remember how invincible we were at Highfield Road? Right up until Kevin Drinkell scored. Then we couldn't win for a few years.
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Never remember us doing much at The Dell when Southampton played there. Horrible ground
I think we won 2-1 the year we won the league and there was a 4-1 victory too under Gregory. St Mary's has generally been a good ground for us (touch wood)
When they first moved in it was like St Mary's was too good a ground they lost the edge they had at the Dell. Now they have adjusted and its a tough place to go for many, but we seem to do fairly well there overall.
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Darren summed up perfectly for me in April: "We played shit and Selhurst Park is a shit ground."
I have felt that way after about 99% of my visits to that hell hole.
Big Daz always sums up perfectly.
What a perfect analysis. Been there 3 times versus palace, and twice versus dons, no wins and long bloody journeys home.
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Darren summed up perfectly for me in April: "We played shit and Selhurst Park is a shit ground."
I have felt that way after about 99% of my visits to that hell hole.
Big Daz always sums up perfectly.
What a perfect analysis. Been there 3 times versus palace, and twice versus dons, no wins and long bloody journeys home.
I've been there many times and seen us come a cropper against Palace, CHarlton and Wimbledon, but for me that ground will forever be associated with the abject 3-0 defeat against CHarlton on the way to relegation in 1987. Utter misery.
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Just worked out my personal record at Selhurst Park. Seven visits to see us play Charlton, Palace and Wimbledon. Starting with the Easter Monday 3-0 that as good as relegated us.
Played 7
Won 1 (The Dalian game)
Drawn 1
Lost 5.
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2 visits to Selhurst Park.
1 draw (Wimbledon's last home game in the top flight) and 1 loss, last season to Palace.
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I've only ever been to Selhurst Park once, about 1967 I think. We won 1-0. I'm not too sure of the scorer, may have been Brian Godfrey.
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Never remember us doing much at The Dell when Southampton played there. Horrible ground
I think we won 2-1 the year we won the league and there was a 4-1 victory too under Gregory. St Mary's has generally been a good ground for us (touch wood)
When they first moved in it was like St Mary's was too good a ground they lost the edge they had at the Dell. Now they have adjusted and its a tough place to go for many, but we seem to do fairly well there overall.
i never went to the dell, but always remember as a kid thinking, that's a weird tiny little ground- with tiny stands and thinking it wouldn't hold more than about 20,000
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Just worked out my personal record at Selhurst Park. Seven visits to see us play Charlton, Palace and Wimbledon. Starting with the Easter Monday 3-0 that as good as relegated us.
Played 7
Won 1 (The Dalian game)
Drawn 1
Lost 5.
free coaches or not damo, I'd be staying home that weekend against palace mate! Your grief is palpable
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You should ask my son about it robbo. He has had to listen to plenty of my moans and rants whenever that ground gets brought up. I constantly threaten to take him there if he does something really bad or annoys me too much.
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Only been to Selhurst once and fortunately got to see Goal of the Season!! Never been back and won't be disappointed if I never have to go back.
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2 visits, both involved Dalian, the 3-2 win and then the 0-0 two seasons later when he had a goal ruled out for offside.
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Only been to Selhurst once and fortunately got to see Goal of the Season!! Never been back and won't be disappointed if I never have to go back.
4 Villa goals in the last 9, plus another scored by a future Villa player!
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I am sure we would all agree that the only goal we remember more fondly from that season than Dalian's is Clive Freeman's. Julian Joachim's goal was against Barnsley. If I remember right he was born in Barnsley.
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St Jame's Park is a bogey ground for us.
I can't think of too many wins up there. a 3-0 in the fisty cuffs game must be the last time and that was nearly 10 years ago. Before that we had a 1-0 win when Shearer got sent off, but our record up there is pretty grim.
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St Jame's Park is a bogey ground for us.
I can't think of too many wins up there. a 3-0 in the fisty cuffs game must be the last time and that was nearly 10 years ago. Before that we had a 1-0 win when Shearer got sent off, but our record up there is pretty grim.
snigger...Bogey :)
It's childish I know.
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St Jame's Park is a bogey ground for us.
I can't think of too many wins up there. a 3-0 in the fisty cuffs game must be the last time and that was nearly 10 years ago. Before that we had a 1-0 win when Shearer got sent off, but our record up there is pretty grim.
I've only ever been to Sid James' twice. Once under Gregory where he subbed Ginola (i think it was) before half time and we lost 3-0 and when we got beat 5-0 up there a few seasons back, which was the last time Andy Carroll did anything.
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St Jame's Park is a bogey ground for us.
I can't think of too many wins up there. a 3-0 in the fisty cuffs game must be the last time and that was nearly 10 years ago. Before that we had a 1-0 win when Shearer got sent off, but our record up there is pretty grim.
I've only ever been to Sid James' twice. Once under Gregory where he subbed Ginola (i think it was) before half time and we lost 3-0 and when we got beat 5-0 up there a few seasons back, which was the last time Andy Carroll did anything.
You must have left early Clampy, it was 6-0.
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St Jame's Park is a bogey ground for us.
I can't think of too many wins up there. a 3-0 in the fisty cuffs game must be the last time and that was nearly 10 years ago. Before that we had a 1-0 win when Shearer got sent off, but our record up there is pretty grim.
I've only ever been to Sid James' twice. Once under Gregory where he subbed Ginola (i think it was) before half time and we lost 3-0 and when we got beat 5-0 up there a few seasons back, which was the last time Andy Carroll did anything.
You must have left early Clampy, it was 6-0.
I thought it was 4-0.
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It was 6, carew missed a penalty at 0-0.
Didn't that chicken winged celebrating scouse nolan three?
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It was 6, carew missed a penalty at 0-0.
Didn't that chicken winged celebrating scouse nolan three?
Yes, it was 6. Carroll got a hat-trick and Joy Barton scored a belter of a free kick. He's done nothing since either.
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That was in the immediate aftermath of MON leaving wasn't it and the carnage that occured.
I still think how on earth that result happened, Newcastle's next two home games that year were losing to Blackpool and Stoke and we still had a decent team back then, Young, Downing and Petrov all in the midfield for that game.
Edit: I believe aswell McDonald would've got the job full time but for that result. Certainly the board seemed to be edging towards that decision before the Newcastle debarcle which changed everything.
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Edit: I believe aswell McDonald would've got the job full time but for that result. Certainly the board seemed to be edging towards that decision before the Newcastle debarcle which changed everything.
I think that and the Rapid home game a few days later cost him any chance of the gig.
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I've never actually seen highlights of that Vienna game as I was at Reading festival but following it at the time it did seem a shambolic way to get knocked out.
I'm sure Paulie will be along in a bit with yet another vivid description of that ridiculous clearance Davies apparently did in that game. ;)
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We were defensively awful against Rapid, and that Curtis clearance is still one of the most amazing things i've seen down B6. It would have been an ace shot from that angle.
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That was the night it pissed down and me, Percy, Joe_C and his sister were right underneath the Holte roof.
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Obviously none of us know but I think staying in Europe and even a narrow defeat at Newcastle would have got McDonald the job permanently. I had the pleasure of watching that Newcastle game in a pub/restaurant with my family that was full of noses.
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The board certainly seemed keen to give it to him initially but understandbly they changed their minds after Newcastle. Was a wierd time as we came back to beat Everton at home next day despite getting battered. A wierd season generally.
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Arsenal, 1 defeat in 16 visits to VP. Yet we've won three times in our last 6 visits to the Emirates.
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Yep, Villa Park is rapidly becoming our bogey ground.