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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Dave on March 29, 2014, 11:06:01 AM
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From around midday.
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Five changes for Manchester United, with Nemanja Vidic, Alex Buttner, Ashley Young, Darren Fletcher and Shinji Kagawa all restored to David Moyes' side.
Starting XI: De Gea, Rafael, Jones, Vidic, Buttner, Young, Fellaini, Fletcher, Kagawa, Mata, Rooney.
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Need to get Gabby up against Vidic.
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Villa side out yet?
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#AVFC Guzan, Bacuna, Vlaar, Clark, Bertrand, Westwood, Delph, Albrighton, Weimann, Benteke, Agbonlahor. #AVFCLIVE
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I would agree with that
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I hope Albrighton doesn't play central again
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Happy enough with that team, come on you Villa boys win please.
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Wow that is certainly attack minded!
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That looks like Albrighton in the middle. Which is mad. I kinda like it.
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Baker replaced then
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Come on Villa three points please I'm happy with the team he's put out.
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not alot Lambert can really do . Im glad Marc is starting but need something from Weimann today . Hes lucky he's a regular
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hair bear bunch is lucky to be playing . He should have been sent off last game.
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Glad bakers been dropped
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Need Gabby to turn up big time for this one!!!!
Fair play to PL that's an attack minded team if ever I've seen one!
Come on you babbies do us proud.
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If we did beat them , Moyes will be gone after the munich games ;)
awful bench for Villa
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Moyes gone for width then?
I'm not too confident with Bacuna up against Young.
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not alot Lambert can really do . Im glad Marc is starting but need something from Weimann today . Hes lucky he's a regular
Would much rather have Lowton in at RB and Bacuna in midfield with Delph and Westwood. Don't rate Albrighton.
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Lambert doesn't really have a choice but to put Albrighton in, as our midfield cover is non-existent. I'd expect Weimann alongside Benteke, with Gabby & Albrighton wide. Correct decision to drop Baker, his speed of movement & thought would get exposed even more than usual.
I hope we stand up to the fookers & make them earn anything they get.
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Baker dropped or banned I read somewhere we have had 64 yellow cards so far this season worst in the EPL.
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Im suprised he hasnt played that Januzaj . expect Hernandez to come on and get winner
COME ON VILLA
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That looks like Albrighton in the middle. Which is mad. I kinda like it.
It didn't look good last Sunday
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not alot Lambert can really do . Im glad Marc is starting but need something from Weimann today . Hes lucky he's a regular
Would much rather have Lowton in at RB and Bacuna in midfield with Delph and Westwood. Don't rate Albrighton.
I'd probably agree with that, although that midfield is too lightweight and unconvincing either way.
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Bloody heck, the three central mids are gone!
This will either end up horribly or horribly with the occasional flash of genius.
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not alot Lambert can really do . Im glad Marc is starting but need something from Weimann today . Hes lucky he's a regular
Would much rather have Lowton in at RB and Bacuna in midfield with Delph and Westwood. Don't rate Albrighton.
He just deserves a start , he probbaly isnt prem level but theres a lot that have not put the effort in lately as he has .
but agree on Lowton , I would keep Marc in thou and drop andi
albrighton does ok against these
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In the tradition of Villa allowing the same players to score against us, expect sideshow Raheem to open the scoring. Probably after using knuckledusters to get an advantage.
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Baker dropped or banned I read somewhere we have had 64 yellow cards so far this season worst in the EPL.
how you doing ? havent seen you in a while
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Please Villa, just shut up my 3 manc mates....once and for all!
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fuck me has BT sport made this the Manure Show !!!
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What's the bets on Young taking another dive today?
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Show me the plane and get on with it
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Who's on the bench?
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Show me the plane and get on with it
Wouldn't it be nice if we banged in a goal while that plane was overhead.
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Football Focus is pretty funny. 23 years of unprecedented success these fuckers have had, and they're moaning after going 10 months without a trophy.
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New spectacles Lambo?
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New spectacles Lambo?
thank fuck ;)
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delph be here 5 years now .. bloody hell
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they cant wait to see Benteke go these media twats
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they cant wait to see Benteke go these media twats
Mercenary........fuck off James.
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it's our attitude today more than selected the side itself that will dictate whether or not we can win this game. We've shown that any number of combinations has worked and failed, but where it has worked it is because we've gone in with a desire to win the ball and knock it around. I've always said, I'll take a loss if we tried to win, and that's the most important thing today too. We can certainly beat this lot because they'll be under massive pressure to perform.
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fuck me has BT sport made this the Manure Show !!!
there's only one team playing and they will talk about that team and its ongoing woes after they lose today too. It's what the public want innit?
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I wonder how we'll set up. I'd prefer 4-2-3-1. Albrighton on the right and Gabby on the left, with Andi dropped off Benteke.
I suspect though it'll be more like a 4-2-1-3 with Albrighton in the middle, no width and lots of our players stepping on each others toes.
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6.30 am in Mexico. I must be mad.
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#AVFC Guzan, Bacuna, Vlaar, Clark, Bertrand, Westwood, Delph, Albrighton, Weimann, Benteke, Agbonlahor. #AVFCLIVE
Lambert really doesn't have many options, does he? - this looks very light in the middle but there is noone else available unless he plays Bennett and Lowton to provide extra defensive and wide strength.
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David James is a tool.
Still we have the joy of listening to Michael Owen's monotonous drivel & stating the bloody obvious to look forward to.
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I guess if Lambert is really going to buy and then play a no. 10 as everyone seems to want/expect him to, he's going to have to do so at the expense of one of the midfield three, so why not get a start on it now?
We're not quite safe yet, of course, but whatever.
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Come on Villa!!!
I fear a penalty after a Young dive and our midfield looks a bit lightweight but you never know with this team.
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I feel utterly sick
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Mata yet to score for Manure and Rooney hasn't scored at OT since October.
Expect Mata and Rooney to score.
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The plane is going over the ground. Sad twats.
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Mata yet to score for Manure and Rooney hasn't scored at OT since October.
Expect Mata and Rooney to score.
Exactly what I thought when they announced that
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Do these commentators not know about Delph's injuries?!
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Mata yet to score for Manure and Rooney hasn't scored at OT since October.
Expect Mata and Rooney to score.
Exactly what I thought when they announced that
Yeah but won't be enough to get them past Benteke's hat-trick
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Christ, Manure really sit deep.
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Will they ever shut up about manure? "Hard to pit your finger on it". FFS
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Rafael is such a little bitch.
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I'm listening on the radio i'm sure Woodward is commentating. No idea what station it is.
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Dirty ******.
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great pass by ash young to set Vila up lol
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Good move! And Rafeal booked.
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GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL
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Free kick in dangerous position. Come on Bacuna!
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GEEETTT IIIINNNNNN
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yyyesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
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Fuck em in - yeee haaaaaa
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YEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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And Jones with a hamstring problem.
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Get in Westy! Good free kick. You could see him saying to Bacuna, "My turn!"
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I love Ashley Westwood, we've been very good, we fucking deserve that, and Moyes is the worst Man Utd manager in living memory. Good day so far.
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i was thinking dont score too early here - Ill be too nervous for 77 mins lol
GET IN !!!!!!
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Westy on freekick duties forever
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Fuck me.
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good free kick, really good from Benteke in the buildup, lovely pass for Gabby.
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fergie looks happy
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It's def Woodward commentating, I wish knew what station I was listening to.
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Beautiful, out in the garden in the sun with the radio on, fingers crossed, hate it almost when we score early
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Commentator sounds gutted!!
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Long way to go against these ******.
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Man U look there for the taking -they are waiting for one of them to do something to lift them-we can have this!
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Both fullbacks already on yellows for them. Get running at them Villa!
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WHats that ugly twat moaning about???
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Come on boys!!!!!
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That was a big chance for Clark.
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Should have scored. Free header
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Buttner will give us a lot of joy this afternoon I think. He's shit and now he's got to be careful. I'd be getting Bacuna and Albrighton getting at him now.
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Free header from Clark -we shoud've scored
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Who the fuck us that Buttner, apart froma gobshite?
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Rooney you dirty fuck
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Raphael - Cock!!
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Danny Mills re the place '..hardly the Red Arrows..'
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Bollocks
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Predictable
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That why Clark needed to score. Fuck off.
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How much did we stand off every one of their players? Suicide
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Yea, leave him unmarked lads
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Crap - so predictable
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Of course.
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Fuck off Rooney.
Michael Owen is dreadful by the way. How can he be switched off!?
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dammit -that's just what they need
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Don't fucking capitulate now Villa
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Teale blaming Clark.
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WTF do they tell our centre backs in training?! Sunday morning amateur basics yet again.
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Gabby you complete wanker - can't control a ball on his chest - under no pressure . they go up the other end and score.
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Neither side can really attack. However, neither can really defend either. It's a weird game.
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Gabby you complete wanker - can't control a ball on his chest - under no pressure . they go up the other end and score.
How's that his fault he slipped?
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We've let them come back into this game....Utd are fucking crap
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I really wil lose all interest in this team if we get fucking stuffed today.
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Dreadful defending, so bloody typical, watch us go 3-1 down now in the blink of an eyelid
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Well, that equaliser pleased the commentators on the TV!
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Fuck off Rooney.
Michael Owen is dreadful by the way. How can he be switched off!?
Easy, don't subscribe to whatever channel the boring twat is employed by, I wouldn't have a clue
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Everyone chill. We'd take this start before the game. Also we've defended great since they scored.
Come on Villa.
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This commentator is doing my head in!!
They're so far up manures arse, its unbelievable.
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C'mon you Villa boys! We can beat these arse clinkers.
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Clarks marking was awful, you've got someone like Rooney on your shoulder and not once did he look round to see where he was.
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Sounds like we've gone to shit.
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Gabby you complete wanker - can't control a ball on his chest - under no pressure . they go up the other end and score.
How's that his fault he slipped?
You are kidding - I haven't seen any other players 'slip' - wear the right studs for a start .
He could have chested it off , headed in to Delphs path or tried to control it .
He did none of them. Now changed the momentum of the match .
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Sounds like we've gone to shit.
Aren't you watching? Will PM stream.
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least we havent let in a quick second
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Owen. Complete twat. Kagawa "buys"a free kick but if we win a free kick we're looking for it.
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Sounds like we've gone to shit.
Not really, United are having a spell after scoring, which considering they're at home and assembled to the cost of a small country's GDP isn't surprising. We're doing fine.
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These are shit and we are doing our fucking usual. Why can't we ever control a game for more than 10mins
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well done mrc there
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Well done Marc. Playing well.
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Well done Vlaar
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Good move with Albie; shame about the ball in from Delph.
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That was a rubbish free kick. How was that going to ever work.
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Vlaar is quicker than you think, did well then.
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That was a rubbish free kick. How was that going to ever work.
;D
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That was a rubbish free kick. How was that going to ever work.
Why blame the free-kick? It reached Delph who had loads of time. It could have worked if Delph hadn't chunted it out of play.
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Kagawa's foot was as high as Clark's then. Poor refereeing
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Vlaar has been stunning.
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My goodness, the never ending camera pans to Moyes is tedious.
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That was a rubbish free kick. How was that going to ever work.
Why blame the free-kick? It reached Delph who had loads of time. It could have worked if Delph hadn't chunted it out of play.
Quite. I thought Delph was going to put his foot through it with a shot; poor decision by him.
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Sounds like we've gone to shit.
Aren't you watching? Will PM stream.
Ta for the offer but my computer is shit so can't cope with streams. It would be like watching stop start animation ;D
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My goodness, the never ending camera pans to Moyes is tedious.
Absolutely. Its a complete manure worship fest. Sickening.
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Commentators are rooting for Utd even more than the sky ones and one of them is G Neville
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That was great pressing.
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Marc putting in a shift today ...
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Time for Benteke to have a decent half today I think. He needs to be bullying Vidic and co.
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Ron has been fantastic. Even a winger then.
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I have never seen such a stale, boring, crap Utd team in all my life
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Weimann could have taken the simple option there, instead of trying to put in that cross.
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Christ it's like watching MUTV.
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Is there anyone worse than us at throw-ins?
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I have never seen such a stale, boring, crap Utd team in all my life
Which is why we absolutely need to get some kind of result. Capitulation or last minute winners (for them) will be unacceptable.
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What minute before half time do you think they'll score?
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Shit
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Penalty ffs
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Brilliant.
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ffs defence again
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worse time
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ffs defence again
Nope it was Gabby up top not holding the ball instead taking a dive. Stupid.
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Bacuna again; he's not a full back, Mr Lambert.
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Shit biscuits.
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What minute before half time do you think they'll score?
Who had the 45th minute?
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ffs defence again
Nope it was Gabby up top not holding the ball instead taking a dive. Stupid.
Yeah agree what was Gabby thinking?
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Bacuna again; he's not a full back, Mr Lambert.
Ask Eden Hazard if he agrees.
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More holes in our defence than a packet of polos
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What minute before half time do you think they'll score?
Who had the 45th minute?
+2 I thought.
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We should not be losing against this crap....they're fucking rubbish
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Bollocks-they really looked flat early doors-we're going to struggle to get anything from this game-got to make changes at halftime
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ffs defence again
Nope it was Gabby up top not holding the ball instead taking a dive. Stupid.
Bang on - get your body in front and hold the ball up .Pathetic .
At fault for both goals
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Arse wipes. All of them those red fuckers. Arse wipes.
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Is it Wayne's birthday and we are fucking kindly Auntie Villa? They say they learn lessons, then do exactly the same as last week.
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Gone to shit. Bacuna's lucky to be on still. He's been pushing his luck all game, and you could argue that was a goal scoring opportunity for Mata too.
They've been poor too, but that's two sloppy goals to give them.
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ffs defence again
Nope it was Gabby up top not holding the ball instead taking a dive. Stupid.
true but you cant do a bacunu there
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Bacuna didn't need to dive in there - he's not a full back!
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My broadband went down when Gabby fell over and it's just come back on and they've scored. Was it definitely a pen?
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Is it Wayne's birthday and we are fucking kindly Auntie Villa? They say they learn lessons, then do exactly the same as last week.
It's been so easy for him today. The rest of their side has been pretty dire, but he's had two easy goals. They may as well give him a pipe and slippers and comfy chair to sit on.
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We've played reasonably well - the passes have been strung together well - but the individual defensive errors are once again costing us.
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Typical 10 mins of hope and then revert to standard shite
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Sigh. In all honesty, MoyesOut couldn't have hand-picked better opponents from all tiers of British football for his "crisis" match. We seem to be the only team capable of making them look like Fergie's team.
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Bacuna didn't need to dive in there - he's not a full back!
Again, ask Eden Hazard if Bacuna isn't a full back. He makes one bad challenge and all of a sudden he can't play the position? That's the definition of a non-sequitur.
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My broadband went down when Gabby fell over and it's just come back on and they've scored. Was it definitely a pen?
Yep. Very clumsy challenge by Bacuna and another ref might have sent him off.
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My broadband went down when Gabby fell over and it's just come back on and they've scored. Was it definitely a pen?
Yeah.
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My broadband went down when Gabby fell over and it's just come back on and they've scored. Was it definitely a pen?
Stonewall
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Fucking united wankers
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My broadband went down when Gabby fell over and it's just come back on and they've scored. Was it definitely a pen?
It was pretty blatant. Very poor, rash challenge from Bacuna.
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Pardon me - damn
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Thats 6 goals in 2 games and all 6 have been simply awful defending.Again Stoke we have a team who is not scoring and we are gifting them goals.
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Bacuna didn't need to dive in there - he's not a full back!
Again, ask Eden Hazard if Bacuna isn't a full back. He makes one bad challenge and all of a sudden he can't play the position? That's the definition of a non-sequitur.
Away at Fulham?
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Don't deserve to be losing. Think they look like shitting themselves when we get forward. Still to play for.
Man Utd aren't very good. Keep believing.
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We've actually been pretty good, just United have got in on the break with a couple of defensive errors. We're not out of this.
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Is it Wayne's birthday and we are fucking kindly Auntie Villa? They say they learn lessons, then do exactly the same as last week.
It's been so easy for him today. The rest of their side has been pretty dire, but he's had two easy goals. They may as well give him a pipe and slippers and comfy chair to sit on.
He hadn't scored at Mould Trafford this year. Never fear, Villa are here. How would you like your three points today, Man United?
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Bacuna didn't need to dive in there - he's not a full back!
Again, ask Eden Hazard if Bacuna isn't a full back. He makes one bad challenge and all of a sudden he can't play the position? That's the definition of a non-sequitur.
He wasn't very good last week either and had a poor run of games at the end of last year. He's filling a gap. Long term I don't think he's a fullback at all.
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We're unlucky to be losing but that's the way it normally goes when we play relatively well.
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I think we can score again. Just cannot see our defence not conceding more.
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We can get something providing we don't go to utter shit in the second half.
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Our defending is fucking awful. Always reacting, never anticipating.
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we have played well but still the same errors
we were looking dangerous until gabby did his young
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If we really went at these we could win. Need to get Gabby and Marc running at them more.
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We really are so accomodating to the problems faced by other teams/players. If you are in need of a win or goal to boost your confidence call on Aston Villa to help out.
I really hope we can come out and get something from this game. We've played well enough at times to deserve a point.
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Well what's it to be? The usual end of season DVD filling climax for these absolute ****** or some kind of spirited second half ending with us getting at least a point against by far the worst Utd team since the 1980's?
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I think we can score again. Just cannot see our defence not conceding more.
Think we'll get another but Utd may get another 1-2. I think Rooney looks odds on for the most comfortable hattrick he'll probably ever score.
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Bacuna didn't need to dive in there - he's not a full back!
Again, ask Eden Hazard if Bacuna isn't a full back. He makes one bad challenge and all of a sudden he can't play the position? That's the definition of a non-sequitur.
Away at Fulham?
Again, saying after one bad game that he shouldn't play the position is a non-sequitur. He has played well at full back many times this season, so saying he shouldn't play there because of isolated low points you can remember makes no sense whatsoever. Benteke's had bad games and missed chances, is he not a striker then? Or is it because the first time you saw Bacuna he was in a different position, so any mistake he makes in another one is because he's not where you imagine he should be? It makes no sense.
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I think we can score again. Just cannot see our defence not conceding more.
That's about right.
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Lets hope that was our bad half. I'd hate to take a pasting from these twats.
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I think we're doing OK.
I think BT Sport are rooting for a home win.
I think Christian Benteke is using "economy of movement"
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Well what's it to be? The usual end of season DVD filling climax for these absolute c***s or some kind of spirited second half ending with us getting at least a point against by far the worst Utd team since the 1980's?
Definitely the former.
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So Montbert, one decent game makes Bacanu a full back ? How about all the games like today when he has been shite ?
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As long as Welback doesn't come on we might get a point here.
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We have played well enough to at least go in at half time even. Silly defensive errors again costing us.
Still think we can get something there.
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Bacuna didn't need to dive in there - he's not a full back!
Again, ask Eden Hazard if Bacuna isn't a full back. He makes one bad challenge and all of a sudden he can't play the position? That's the definition of a non-sequitur.
He wasn't very good last week either and had a poor run of games at the end of last year. He's filling a gap. Long term I don't think he's a fullback at all.
That's revisionist. He's had bad games and good games like everyone else in the team, why don't you question whether they should play in their positions? You only think this because the first time you saw Bacuna he was playing somewhere else so you got a fixed idea. He makes no errors which to me look the result of being in the wrong position - he makes mistakes because he's an enthusiastic but limited footballer, like almost all of our players.
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I went for 2-2 on the pre-match, with us taking an early lead and then being pegged back, it's gone pretty much exactly as I expected.
Buttner is very lucky to not have got a 2nd yellow for the high boot on Clark, that was exactly what happened to Benteke vs Chelsea last year and you see yellows for those challenges fairly regularly.
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So Montbert, one decent game makes Bacanu a full back ? How about all the games like today when he has been shite ?
He's played well in far more than one game. That's a brainless thing to say.
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So Montbert, one decent game makes Bacanu a full back ? How about all the games like today when he has been shite ?
He's played well in far more than one game. That's a brainless thing to say.
I would much prefer Lowton there .
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It's bloody roasting at the Theatre of Wet Dreams, like an end of season game! No way should we be losing this, they're just a long ball shower of mid table shite.
We will do these wankers in the second half.
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I went for 2-2 on the pre-match, with us taking an early lead and then being pegged back, it's gone pretty much exactly as I expected.
Buttner is very lucky to not have got a 2nd yellow for the high boot on Clark, that was exactly what happened to Benteke vs Chelsea last year and you see yellows for those challenges fairly regularly.
Indeed he is.
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I see the BBC are as unbiased as well. Manure has one more shot then us so "deserve their slender lead".
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I'd have taken a draw at HT!
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Rooney 5-1 to score next for hat trick. Those darn bookies. It should be Evens.
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With all due respect Monbert i was thinking the same about your comments
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Bacuna makes mistakes because his tackling technique when he goes off his feet is poor. If he'd made a 'textbook' challenge there his trailing leg wouldn't have been anywhere near making that contact. You could also see him preparing himself in the couple of strides before he made the challenge, its always the same, you can see him thinking about how to make the tackle, someone more confident in their technique wouldn't do that.
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Beginning to wonder if I am watching the game on BT Sport or MUTV. The united love in even from the like of an ex Villa player in David James is embarrassing. Great goal from Westy but worryingly early for us and although we played well we started showing them too much respect. Both goals on the counter after Gabby lost possession?
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All is not lost here I think. Their defence is not great. Still believe we can at least get a point here.
Ron must be feeling sick. He's been great first half.
I have to believe that because losing against these is bad enough but when it's their worst team for over 20 years it really sticks in the craw. And BT should really be ashamed of themselves. Their bias is sickening.
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I'm sorry but Bacuna is not a first choice fullback, for every good game he's had a nightmare. If Luna or Bennett played as he did against Stoke they'd be slaughtered. Why Clark leaves Rooney standing unmarked for the first goal is baffling.
Gabby needs to start earning his wages, since the fame at Anfield he's brought nothing to the team.
The worst Man U team in a generation & we gift 2 soft goals. They've created nothing.
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Get on fucking Carrick Tekkers....
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Bacuna didn't need to dive in there - he's not a full back!
Again, ask Eden Hazard if Bacuna isn't a full back. He makes one bad challenge and all of a sudden he can't play the position? That's the definition of a non-sequitur.
Err how about Fulham away?
Look, I've been a Bacuna fan all season but he's playing out of position.
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Beginning to wonder if I am watching the game on BT Sport or MUTV. The united love in even from the like of an ex Villa player in David James is embarrassing. Great goal from Westy but worryingly early for us and although we played well we started showing them too much respect. Both goals on the counter after Gabby lost possession?
Its sickening the way they drool over United even when they are shit.
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It's bloody roasting at the Theatre of Wet Dreams, like an end of season game! No way should we be losing this, they're just a long ball shower of mid table shite.
We will do these wankers in the second half.
For some reason I read that 1st as we're just a long ball shower of mid table shite
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With all due respect Monbert i was thinking the same about your comments
I'm content for track records to speak for themselves on this one.
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Michael Owen is fucking annoying me.
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Should have scored surely!
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Oh no...tekkers
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Oh do fuck off. That's a disgrace.
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two mid table sides but one of them makes more defensive mistakes and one has a Ogre
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Bacuna didn't need to dive in there - he's not a full back!
Again, ask Eden Hazard if Bacuna isn't a full back. He makes one bad challenge and all of a sudden he can't play the position? That's the definition of a non-sequitur.
Err how about Fulham away?
Look, I've been a Bacuna fan all season but he's playing out of position.
Fulham away is a better example, but how about Norwich at home? And Chelsea at home? He played well and as a full back in a full back way, which isn't just not making rash challenges - if that was the case then you could say Christian Panucci 'isn't a full-back'. Making a mistake in a position doesn't disqualify you from that position.
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What a fucking miss
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ffs sitter
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Oh my god.
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thast the chance - right time
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Benteke's having a mare today.
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what a dive by rooney the cnut
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How the hell did he miss!! I hate Man Ure lucky Bastards.
Still good build up.
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david James before game
well at least Benteke can show case himself today
yes really ;)
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That is the worst miss by a Villa player at Old Trafford I can remember. May as well switch this off and get on with the gardening and car washing, then.
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fuck..thats 2 good chances
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Great move. But really. Come on.
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That's revisionist. He's had bad games and good games like everyone else in the team, why don't you question whether they should play in their positions? You only think this because the first time you saw Bacuna he was playing somewhere else so you got a fixed idea. He makes no errors which to me look the result of being in the wrong position - he makes mistakes because he's an enthusiastic but limited footballer, like almost all of our players.
I think he actually gets caught out of position a lot - he's very frequently on the wrong side of the defender. Watch how many balls the Mancs loft down our right flank.
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Bacuna didn't need to dive in there - he's not a full back!
Again, ask Eden Hazard if Bacuna isn't a full back. He makes one bad challenge and all of a sudden he can't play the position? That's the definition of a non-sequitur.
Err how about Fulham away?
Look, I've been a Bacuna fan all season but he's playing out of position.
Fulham away is a better example, but how about Norwich at home? And Chelsea at home? He played well and as a full back in a full back way, which isn't just not making rash challenges - if that was the case then you could say Christian Panucci 'isn't a full-back'. Making a mistake in a position doesn't disqualify you from that position.
He's not a full back, IMO, even if he has done generally well.
He should not have dived in: the ball and the player were going away from goal; just jockey, don't dive in!
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That's two great moves. Benteke has to finish of these. It's coming....
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And another miss by our £20m, £15m, £10m, tuppence hapenny striker.
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another chance
albrighton ;)
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Why do we always do this against this shit.
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Let's just pretend it's 3-2 Villa.
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I got to say Westy has been brilliant so far.
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free kick there Villa
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Bacuna didn't need to dive in there - he's not a full back!
Again, ask Eden Hazard if Bacuna isn't a full back. He makes one bad challenge and all of a sudden he can't play the position? That's the definition of a non-sequitur.
Err how about Fulham away?
Look, I've been a Bacuna fan all season but he's playing out of position.
Fulham away is a better example, but how about Norwich at home? And Chelsea at home? He played well and as a full back in a full back way, which isn't just not making rash challenges - if that was the case then you could say Christian Panucci 'isn't a full-back'. Making a mistake in a position doesn't disqualify you from that position.
He's not a full back, IMO, even if he has done generally well.
He should not have dived in: the ball and the player were going away from goal; just jockey, don't dive in!
Even if he's played generally well at full back, he's not a full back because he made a mistake which has nothing to do with positioning. That's what you're saying, and it doesn't make sense.
STM, you think he gets caught out of position a lot? Fine. I disagree.
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Our attitude is spot on this half and we should be level at least. It is also why I see them scoring again very soon to finish this off.
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I got to say Westy has been brilliant so far.
Agreed.
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I got to say Westy has been brilliant so far.
Agreed.
Sublime.
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wondered why you lot was seeing the action before me
I have bloody paused it and forgot to catch up
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Dear Karma,
Two very late Villa goals to win this please. We're due.
Lots of love,
Aston Villa and every other club club.
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Dear Karma,
Two very late Villa goals to win this please. We're due.
Lots of love,
Aston Villa and every other club club.
Or you could really twist the knife you bastard.
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That's it for lads and lasses. Can't watch.
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Bacuna didn't need to dive in there - he's not a full back!
Again, ask Eden Hazard if Bacuna isn't a full back. He makes one bad challenge and all of a sudden he can't play the position? That's the definition of a non-sequitur.
Err how about Fulham away?
Look, I've been a Bacuna fan all season but he's playing out of position.
Fulham away is a better example, but how about Norwich at home? And Chelsea at home? He played well and as a full back in a full back way, which isn't just not making rash challenges - if that was the case then you could say Christian Panucci 'isn't a full-back'. Making a mistake in a position doesn't disqualify you from that position.
He's not a full back, IMO, even if he has done generally well.
He should not have dived in: the ball and the player were going away from goal; just jockey, don't dive in!
Even if he's played generally well at full back, he's not a full back because he made a mistake which has nothing to do with positioning. That's what you're saying, and it doesn't make sense.
STM, you think he gets caught out of position a lot? Fine. I disagree.
It's not the first time I've pointed out that I don't think he's a full back ...
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And there you fucking have it.
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jammy goal
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rubbish rubbish defending....4 donkeys
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Didn't you just know that he would score his first goal against us?
ffs
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Jammy Bastards
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Mata yet to score for Manure and Rooney hasn't scored at OT since October.
Expect Mata and Rooney to score.
;D
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I hope Moyes is paying us for all of these gifts. Nothing was learned from that Stoke match, directly contradicting all of the PR bullshit on the OS this week.
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That's the trouble. Miss golden opportunities and you get punished.
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Game over. Comically bad defending.
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Game was lost when Benteke missed those two chances.
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Mata scores. Our gift to Man Utd is complete
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So predictable.
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Fellaini will probably score his first goal too. Has a good record against us. Bloody hell.
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It's not the first time I've pointed out that I don't think he's a full back ...
I'm sure it's not. Your evidence today, however, doesn't support or refute your view. It's just irrelevant to it.
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But we can still see what Lambo is trying to do can't we?
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Usual shit resumed, only we could play a coasting, off colour Man Utd and let them be beating us 3-1. We really are one just big fucking continuous disaster
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Fellaini will probably score his first goal too. Has a good record against us. Bloody hell.
And Young to complete the rout as he has been utterly crap most of the season
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our season
too many sitters
shite defending
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But we can still see what Lambo is trying to do can't we?
Stagnate us.
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Our record against these is shameful. It does my head in.
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Good to hear our fans with a good chorus of you're gonna win fuck all.
God I hate these twats.
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Fellaini is a dirty twat!
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Oh well.....time to do other stuff now.
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It's not the first time I've pointed out that I don't think he's a full back ...
I'm sure it's not. You're evidence today, however, doesn't support or refute your view. It's just irrelevant to it.
Hardly irrelevant. Decision-making is all part of the game, and Bacuna has made several poor ones at full back over the season that make me doubt his FB credentials.
Not that I attach blame: he's young, learning and out of position.
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Usual shit resumed, only we could play a coasting, off colour Man Utd and let them be beating us 3-1. We really are one just big fucking continuous disaster
Add Stoke not having an away win since August etc.
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We're the Washington Generals again.
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Bacuna trotted out for that second and played them both on. He is bad at the moment
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FFS. Our defending as a team is absolutely shocking. Just before the goal, they had the ball in the midfield, and our midfielders all backed about off about 15 yards. No pressure whatsoever and they can pick a pass into the front men. We're only ever any good when we press, so why aren't we doing it?
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The games over to be honest. I'd like to see Robinson get some minutes. See what he can do.
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hit him harder Ryan
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Albrightons doing well
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Another afternoon beckons of looking nervously at what the teams below us are doing . Sick of this shit
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It's not the first time I've pointed out that I don't think he's a full back ...
I'm sure it's not. You're evidence today, however, doesn't support or refute your view. It's just irrelevant to it.
Hardly irrelevant. Decision-making is all part of the game, and Bacuna has made several poor ones at full back over the season that make me doubt his FB credentials.
Not that I attach blame: he's young, learning and out of position.
It would have been a poor decision in any position. It doesn't matter where you play, diving in is a bad idea. Full backs in general dive in more than other positions, actually. Playing in a position is about, funnily enough, positioning, and I think he's improved massively since the Fulham game at this. Once again you've just asserted that he's playing out of position, as if merely saying it counts as evidence. You've said it a lot I'm sure, but that's all you've done.
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cheating fucking bastards!
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And just to rub it in, Vidic gets away with it again.
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could have been pen there
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tahst a pen
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A scandalous decision, barely protested by the commentators. The rich clubs have referees and the media wrapped up.
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We never beat these, but I still say we need an almost entirely new defense. That's before midfield is sorted.
Ho-hum.
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Tonev coming on.
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It's not the first time I've pointed out that I don't think he's a full back ...
I'm sure it's not. You're evidence today, however, doesn't support or refute your view. It's just irrelevant to it.
Hardly irrelevant. Decision-making is all part of the game, and Bacuna has made several poor ones at full back over the season that make me doubt his FB credentials.
Not that I attach blame: he's young, learning and out of position.
It would have been a poor decision in any position. It doesn't matter where you play, diving in is a bad idea. Full backs in general dive in more than other positions, actually. Playing in a position is about, funnily enough, positioning, and I think he's improved massively since the Fulham game at this. Once again you've just asserted that he's playing out of position, as if merely saying it counts as evidence. You've said it a lot I'm sure, but that's all you've done.
Well, I'm not going to revisit tapes of all the games he's played, for a difference of opinion about a player that I've rated generally all season.
And, your assertions in this ping-pong have been just that; assertions mascarading as fact.
We'll just have to disagree., Monty; not something we do that often.
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Tonev coming on.
Better not be for Albrighton.
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Tonev coming on.
Great
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Tonev coming on.
fan tastic
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I honestly haven't heard Gabbys name
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It's not the first time I've pointed out that I don't think he's a full back ...
I'm sure it's not. You're evidence today, however, doesn't support or refute your view. It's just irrelevant to it.
Hardly irrelevant. Decision-making is all part of the game, and Bacuna has made several poor ones at full back over the season that make me doubt his FB credentials.
Not that I attach blame: he's young, learning and out of position.
It would have been a poor decision in any position. It doesn't matter where you play, diving in is a bad idea. Full backs in general dive in more than other positions, actually. Playing in a position is about, funnily enough, positioning, and I think he's improved massively since the Fulham game at this. Once again you've just asserted that he's playing out of position, as if merely saying it counts as evidence. You've said it a lot I'm sure, but that's all you've done.
Well, I'm not going to revisit tapes of all the games he's played, for a difference of opinion about a player that I've rated generally all season.
And, your assertions in this ping-pong have been just that; assertions mascarading as fact.
We'll just have to disagree., Monty; not something we do that often.
We shall indeed, and it is rare.
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Tonev coming on.
Game well and truly over
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Bacuna's marking is terrible....
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One shit player on for another shit player.
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Come on Tonev. 40 yarder in the top corner please. Make us want your babies.
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Great save Brad.
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Tonev coming on.
Game well and truly over
if we could just get Sylla on, then I think we could still win this
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This had been yet another terrible performance.
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weimann what was that
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can't wait for Lambert to sign that new three year deaL
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I'm really going to enjoy watching Bayern give this lot a lesson in how to play football. Shame we can't do it.
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Tonev coming on.
Game well and truly over
if we could just get Sylla on, then I think we could still win this
Need to wait for the match winner that is Grant fucking Holt
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We've been so shit that even Ashley fancies a run at us now
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Apparently Tonev hat a hit pop Album in Bulgaria entitled Blind Alleys. Featuring the number 1 hit, "I've Lost Control."
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Another afternoon beckons of looking nervously at what the teams below us are doing . Sick of this shit
Yes. We are a mid-table club.
So long as the teams below us do us a favour that is.
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I'll say this much - that from Bacuna was not bad evidence against his being a full-back. Completely misjudged everything.
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Oh and another picture of Moyes on the touchline.
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Tonev....wait for it......SHOOOOOOOOOTS.......over
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need better than weimann and gabby in the first team
another midfield
another full back
I could go on
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Tonev shot from distance off target. Quelle surprise
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Predictable shit shot from Tonev. He really doesn't learn does he?
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...and the tonev shot
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Thanks Villa make it nice and easy for them. I hope Bayern destroy them on Tuesday!
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Tonev is getting much better. He hit row G with that one.
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Tonev....wait for it......SHOOOOOOOOOTS.......over
just...
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I'll say this much - that from Bacuna was not bad evidence against his being a full-back. Completely misjudged everything.
He's not a fullback but Lambert doesn't want fullbacks. He wants wingers who don't mind attempting a bit of defending.
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Still think we could get one and who knows
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manure have not had a corner
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Consistently skies it. Fucking hell Tonev.
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I'll say this much - that from Bacuna was not bad evidence against his being a full-back. Completely misjudged everything.
He's not a fullback but Lambert doesn't want fullbacks. He wants wingers who don't mind attempting a bit of defending.
He's not even a winger for me....his crossing is bunk, too short and too low
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manure have not had a corner
They don't need them.
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another chance gone
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Tekkers on another day could of had his hat trick
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Deary, deary me Christian...
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If Benteke could kick the ball we could be drawing this
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3 open goals missed by Benteke
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Benteskey.
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Lowton on for Alby.
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Benteke. Shit.
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I think I know the cause of my high blood pressure. Agbonlahor. Another four years of watching him in a Villa shirt will finish me off.
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Shaun Teale just said on radio " Disgraceful that by Bacuna ,strolling around as if we are winning 3-1,i dont like players with that attitude "
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I really can't understand why we fold so utterly and completely in nearly every game we play against these. It's beyond a bogey fixture. It's like we have a deep psychological scar that just can't be healed.
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Lowton on. Albi off. Lambert thinking of damage limitation then.
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Um - what on earth is that substitution?
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well played albrighton today
him and westwoodd been great
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I really can't understand why we fold so utterly and completely in nearly every game we play against these. It's beyond a bogey fixture. It's like we have a deep psychological scar that just can't be healed.
It's not just against these though is it? It's most teams. Poor management.
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Well, at least on this form we can stop worrying about him leaving in the summer!
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Tonev would be a fucking brilliant kicker in Rugby
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well played albrighton today
him and westwoodd been great
Agree.
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I really can't understand why we fold so utterly and completely in nearly every game we play against these. It's beyond a bogey fixture. It's like we have a deep psychological scar that just can't be healed.
It's not just against these though is it? It's most teams. Poor management.
I think 'poor management' is quite possibly the understatement of the year....
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Well, at least on this form we can stop worrying about him leaving in the summer!
Problem though is that with every miss his value lowers.
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I really can't understand why we fold so utterly and completely in nearly every game we play against these. It's beyond a bogey fixture. It's like we have a deep psychological scar that just can't be healed.
If they held a raffle before the match and sent out 11 fans, we'd still find a way to lose.
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Tonev would be a fucking brilliant kicker in Rugby
I just don't see the point of him.
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I really can't understand why we fold so utterly and completely in nearly every game we play against these. It's beyond a bogey fixture. It's like we have a deep psychological scar that just can't be healed.
It's not just against these though is it? It's most teams. Poor management.
I think 'poor management' is quite possibly the understatement of the year....
Ha.
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should have got that robinson on and got tekkers off
tekkers aint gonna score
and I dont want to see that tonev
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I really can't understand why we fold so utterly and completely in nearly every game we play against these. It's beyond a bogey fixture. It's like we have a deep psychological scar that just can't be healed.
It's not just against these though is it? It's most teams. Poor management.
I'm talking about this fixture in particular. They've taken more points off us than any other prem team. We have performed well against the other top clubs and beaten them fairly regularly. However when it comes to man u, form and performance just doesn't matter. We've beaten them twice since 1995, nearly 20 years.
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Well, at least on this form we can stop worrying about him leaving in the summer!
;D
So frustrating. Could've had a hat trick today.
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The main difference today hadn't been the comedy defending but the poor attacking.
We've had 7 shots, Man U 6. But the difference is that Man U have had 5 on target and we've had 1.
Benteke and Wiemann have been rubbish.
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Decent shot from Tonev!
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he does like to shoot says owen
he got that right ;)
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I think...and I don't know why, but Tonev could become good......one day
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Man united must be delighted we're staying up
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Tonev off target again. Will he ever get one on target??
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The main difference today hadn't been the comedy defending but the poor attacking.
We've had 7 shots, Man U 6. But the difference is that Man U have had 5 on target and we've had 1.
Benteke and Wiemann have been rubbish.
Gabby too .
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The main difference today hadn't been the comedy defending but the poor attacking.
We've had 7 shots, Man U 6. But the difference is that Man U have had 5 on target and we've had 1.
Benteke and Wiemann have been rubbish.
its normally the midfield but they have been ok today including Albrighton
but gabby and weimann have been crap , been a off day for CB but he did get in the positions .
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Tonev off target again. Will he ever get one on target??
No. He's fucking wasteful.
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I think...and I don't know why, but Tonev could become good......one day
Ha ha, you should audition for the comedy club
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I don't even know why I'm still watching this.
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Man united must be delighted we're staying up
So must Stoke :(
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I think...and I don't know why, but Tonev could become good......one day
Ha ha, you should audition for the comedy club
I see a diamond in the rough
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fuck off felini
keep your fucking elbow in then please
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The main difference today hadn't been the comedy defending but the poor attacking.
We've had 7 shots, Man U 6. But the difference is that Man U have had 5 on target and we've had 1.
Benteke and Wiemann have been rubbish.
Gabby too .
He won the freekick we scored from by making a run no one else in our team could've done
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Clark booked in the last 3 mins rather than the first
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all we are waiting for now is shrek to complete his hat trick
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all we are waiting for now is shrek to complete his hat trick
He went off about 20 mins ago
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I think...and I don't know why, but Tonev could become good......one day
Ha ha, you should audition for the comedy club
I see a diamond in the rough
I just see the rough
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Well done Ash. Game over. Take one for the team with a few mins left.
How many more bookings
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all we are waiting for now is shrek to complete his hat trick
Might be a bit tricky from the bench
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all we are waiting for now is shrek to complete his hat trick
I think that's a bit unlikely...
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the kind of cross benteke would be looking for
he aint sitting in the stands you twat
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Fellani and Mata have been shit all season but both turn up today.
We have not played that poorly but like Stoke goals as poor as they come.Real worry for rest of season ,still need 6 points to be safe
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I think...and I don't know why, but Tonev could become good......one day
Ha ha, you should audition for the comedy club
I see a diamond in the rough
I just see the rough
I think with the right amount of elbow grease I could polish a turd
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There you go.
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all we are waiting for now is shrek to complete his hat trick
He went off about 20 mins ago
Still possible. Tonev hits another wayward shot, bounces off his head and into our goal.
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rub it fucking in
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Great another player who has been shite this season scores
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I hope Bayern smash 10 past the wankers
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8 conceded in 2 games
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Fellani and Mata have been shit all season but both turn up today.
We have not played that poorly but like Stoke goals as poor as they come.Real worry for rest of season ,still need 6 points to be safe
A new defence is needed. It's totally shit. 8 goals conceded in 2 games.
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We really are obliging.
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Fuck you Villa. Again.
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all we are waiting for now is shrek to complete his hat trick
He went off about 20 mins ago
;D ;D
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Eight goals conceded in the last two games against two distinctly average sides.Will we ever learn to defend?
I had typed seven but just had to amend that to eight. Bollocks.
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The main difference today hadn't been the comedy defending but the poor attacking.
We've had 7 shots, Man U 6. But the difference is that Man U have had 5 on target and we've had 1.
Benteke and Wiemann have been rubbish.
Gabby too .
He won the freekick we scored from by making a run no one else in our team could've done
The main difference today hadn't been the comedy defending but the poor attacking.
We've had 7 shots, Man U 6. But the difference is that Man U have had 5 on target and we've had 1.
Benteke and Wiemann have been rubbish.
Gabby too .
He won the freekick we scored from by making a run no one else in our team could've done
doesnt do it enough for me
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I hope Bayern smash 10 past the wankers
Yeah If we can create all those chances think what a decent team will do.
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8 conceded in 2 games
We ca't keep brushing these issues under the carpet. Eventually we will be dragged down.
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what did moyes say to lambert at end
come again we love you playing you
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How many teams play themselves into form against us?
I've just had enough now.
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I know united are still a decent team, but FFS. I'm so angry.
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We are still in the brown stuff well & true. 2 consecutive 4-1s and our defence has been abysmal. Benteke Weimann & Gabby have been a disgrace to the shirt. Only Westwood & Albrighton have tried at all. If Fulham do us next week I think Lambert's time is up.
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The main difference today hadn't been the comedy defending but the poor attacking.
We've had 7 shots, Man U 6. But the difference is that Man U have had 5 on target and we've had 1.
Benteke and Wiemann have been rubbish.
Gabby too .
He won the freekick we scored from by making a run no one else in our team could've done
Was at fault for both opening goals - because he can't control simple balls . Garbage
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Post-match thread please chaps.
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Glad bakers been dropped
Why?