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Title: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: taylorsworkrate on March 10, 2014, 11:19:06 AM
Well, no ones started a thread and it starts tomorrow, so here goes:

Anyone going this year?
Anyone have any tips, certainties, inside info from some bloke down the pub?

Going tomorrow myself. Always a great day out the Tuesday. The Champion Hurdle looks an absolute belter of a renewal. Have backed Our Conor earlier this year, but not quite as bullish about his chances now.

Strongly fancy Rock on Ruby for the Arkle. Has great Cheltenham form, which is always important at the festival.
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: andrew08 on March 10, 2014, 12:03:44 PM
Going Friday.... Can't wait.

Got some good tips off here last year.
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: Nev on March 10, 2014, 12:13:37 PM
I was asked for my four bankers for the festival this morning and went with Irving, The New One, Quevega and Big Bucks.

That will change I'm sure as the hours pass towards 1.30 tommorow.

Will be there tomorrow, Thursday and Friday (my birthday), it's the best week of the year and the weather is going to be great.
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: paul_e on March 10, 2014, 12:17:00 PM
I used to work in Oldbury and get the train into Birmingham, the few years of that has led to me having an informed opinion that Cheltenham is just an excuse from Irish people to visit England, get incredibly drunk and get into arguments on the train.  I know that's not really related but whenever I hear someone refer to the Cheltenham Festival the first thing that comes to mind is how shit the trains are going to be for a week.
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: DBTW on March 10, 2014, 12:22:44 PM
Im going on Wednesday, and tips greatly appreciated
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: taylorsworkrate on March 10, 2014, 12:32:02 PM
I was asked for my four bankers for the festival this morning and went with Irving, The New One, Quevega and Big Bucks.

That will change I'm sure as the hours pass towards 1.30 tommorow.

Will be there tomorrow, Thursday and Friday (my birthday), it's the best week of the year and the weather is going to be great.

Quevega is the annual "get you out the brown stuff horse" on the Tuesday.
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: saunders_heroes on March 10, 2014, 12:43:39 PM
I'm going Friday. Don't know anything about horses but it's a great day out and the Guinness will be flowing.
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: Pete3206 on March 10, 2014, 01:08:45 PM
Going on Friday. Tips? No idea. I just rock up and plonk each ways on something around 25-1.

It is a quite magnificent day out.
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: Damo70 on March 10, 2014, 03:28:10 PM
I was asked for my four bankers for the festival this morning and went with Irving, The New One, Quevega and Big Bucks.

That will change I'm sure as the hours pass towards 1.30 tommorow.

Will be there tomorrow, Thursday and Friday (my birthday), it's the best week of the year and the weather is going to be great.

What days are they each running? Sounds like a plan for a cheeky lucky 15.
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: andrew08 on March 10, 2014, 03:33:29 PM
Going on Friday. Tips? No idea. I just rock up and plonk each ways on something around 25-1.

It is a quite magnificent day out.

I agree totally. I bet each way on anything 20/1 and over.

It is a brill day out, it's like a boozy away game without the worry of the footy!
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: taylorsworkrate on March 10, 2014, 03:36:23 PM
I'd love Big Bucks to win the World Hurdle. Would be a great story

I just think its a hell of a lot to ask, considering the injury and the emergence of Annie Power.
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: andyaston on March 10, 2014, 04:43:30 PM
I'm going tomorrow Champion Hurdle day. In the Best Mate but will prob leave off the drinking until I go back to the town, no real ales just Guinness and kegged rubbish inside.
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: evalast1910 on March 10, 2014, 04:51:54 PM
FIRST DAY BETS:
ALL ODDS BET365
130: IRVING 3/1
205: DODGING BULLETS E/W 5/1
240: HADRIAN'S APPROACH E/W 10/1
320: HURRICANE FLY 3/1
400: QUEVEGA 4/6
440: SHOTGUN PADDY E/W 5/1
5:15 OHIO GOLD E/W 20/1
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: cheltenhamlion on March 10, 2014, 05:56:39 PM
I know fuck all about racing but can give a tip on a newish pub at the top of the High Street.

The Sandford Park Ale House is a must.
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: Nev on March 10, 2014, 07:39:04 PM
I was asked for my four bankers for the festival this morning and went with Irving, The New One, Quevega and Big Bucks.

That will change I'm sure as the hours pass towards 1.30 tommorow.

Will be there tomorrow, Thursday and Friday (my birthday), it's the best week of the year and the weather is going to be great.

What days are they each running? Sounds like a plan for a cheeky lucky 15.

The first three running tomorrow, Big Bucks on Thursday.
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: nodge on March 10, 2014, 09:21:01 PM
Quevega is about the nearest thing to a banker according to AP McCoy.
You could do worse than follow Ruby Walsh all week, which I say every year then don't do it.
Then again is this the first year he's raced mainly in Ireland? Will it make any difference?
Best week of the year bar none!
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: Brend'Watkins on March 11, 2014, 11:25:44 AM
Going Thursday, can't wait.  It gets better each time I go and I know sweet FA about horse racing.  Pick a horse with decent odds, place an each way bet on it... and hope, that's what I do.
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: manic-road on March 11, 2014, 01:22:10 PM
I like the look of Irving in the first
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: Dr Butler on March 11, 2014, 02:05:05 PM
I like the look of Irving in the first

yep I had a bet on Irving....shocking and no value for it's backers what so ever.....Valdez next.....
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: Dr Butler on March 11, 2014, 02:55:13 PM
I like the look of Irving in the first

yep I had a bet on Irving....shocking and no value for it's backers what so ever.....Valdez next.....

fecking balls......3 down and not even threatened the bookies....I couldn't pick my nose, let alone a stupid nag...:(
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: stubbsyandy on March 11, 2014, 03:18:21 PM
Nice 10-1 on Holywell, thanks Jonjo!
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on March 11, 2014, 03:38:28 PM
I had Josses Hill e/w and Holywell, happy so far :)

How we all doing?
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: stubbsyandy on March 11, 2014, 03:50:46 PM
The Fly didn't fly
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: saunders_heroes on March 11, 2014, 03:52:13 PM
'Our Conor' has been put down after a heavy fall. What a shame.
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: stubbsyandy on March 11, 2014, 04:07:51 PM
claret and blue (ish) of Quevega wins again....
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: manic-road on March 11, 2014, 06:50:53 PM
Best today I had was a second, of those I picked two fell one died.
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: AlwaysAVFC on March 11, 2014, 10:12:16 PM
Pretty crap today 2 seconds in a lucky 15 but they may as well of finished last. Had a massive win on the Wednesday last year 25e/w (a free bet)@25/1 so hoping history repeats itself, It won't be nearly that much though as I'm not putting anything like that on.  Just a few small bets on 4 outsiders for me I think tomorrow and just incase they're in a lucky 15 as well which would be big money but that is extremely unlikely to happen.
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: taylorsworkrate on March 12, 2014, 12:22:43 AM
'Our Conor' has been put down after a heavy fall. What a shame.

Yep, absolutely devastating to all involved. At times like this, the forgotten people are the grooms and stablehands. They are the guys and girls who spend day after day with the horses and inevitably build up the strongest bond. They are really like their own personal pets, so spare a thought for whoever was involved with Our Conor in this way.

I hope this doesn't turn this thread into the usual argument that all horse racing threads seem to have become in the past. The staunchest jumps racing fan is affected quite badly by this sort of thing.

Our Conor had a brilliant career in front of him and whilst it may have been a little early this year (I still think he'd have been there or thereabouts today) he would have been a great chance next year and in the future.
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: taylorsworkrate on March 12, 2014, 12:25:33 AM
Betting wise I surprisingly had a good day. Quevega had me worried for a while, but class shone through.

6 wins in a row at the festival is really an unfathomable stat. Absolutely incredible.

Midnight Prayer and a nice punt each way on L'unique saw me in decent profit.
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: Dr Butler on March 12, 2014, 08:35:01 AM
as Lambert would say...we go again !

only Quevega as a winner yesterday and nowt else...
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: manic-road on March 12, 2014, 01:19:05 PM
Going for Faugheen in the first today.
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: andyaston on March 12, 2014, 04:34:16 PM
Going for Faugheen in the first today.
Well done!
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: taylorsworkrate on March 13, 2014, 08:03:52 PM
Good day today. Fingal bay and Spring Heeled saw me well in profit.
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: olaftab on March 13, 2014, 08:16:01 PM
So how many horses have died so far in this festival?
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: taylorsworkrate on March 13, 2014, 08:16:55 PM
So how many horses have died so far in this festival?

Does this thread really need to become this argument?
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: olaftab on March 13, 2014, 08:22:23 PM
No argument just trying to recognise all. Winners, losers and the dead.
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: taylorsworkrate on March 13, 2014, 08:52:29 PM
No argument just trying to recognise all. Winners, losers and the dead.

I think the people who feel the deaths the most are the jump racing fans. I was at Cheltenham on Tuesday, and saw several people in tears at the death of Our Conor.

It is part of the sport. People will argue, and understandably so that without jumps racing these deaths wouldn't take place. However, I firmly believe that without the national hunt that the majority of these horses would live far poorer lives and would probably die as a result of neglect or malnourishment
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: Dave Cooper please on March 13, 2014, 09:17:28 PM


It is part of the sport. People will argue, and understandably so that without jumps racing these deaths wouldn't take place. However, I firmly believe that without the national hunt that the majority of these horses would live far poorer lives and would probably die as a result of neglect or malnourishment

How?

Without horse racing people wouldn't breed race horses.
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: olaftab on March 13, 2014, 09:53:35 PM
According to the Guardian 3 horses have died so far. I wonder how long football could survive if a couple of players died every weekend?
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: taylorsworkrate on March 14, 2014, 05:16:16 AM


It is part of the sport. People will argue, and understandably so that without jumps racing these deaths wouldn't take place. However, I firmly believe that without the national hunt that the majority of these horses would live far poorer lives and would probably die as a result of neglect or malnourishment

How?

Without horse racing people wouldn't breed race horses.

Both the RSPCA and World Horse Welfare highlighted over 6000 non thoroughbred horses at risk of neglect last winter.

Actually its a pretty pointless argument on here. No one on either side of the debate would yield on their position so I'm out.
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: taylorsworkrate on March 14, 2014, 06:54:42 AM
Gold Cup should be a good'un today. Having rewatched last years race, it was surprising to see just how well Silviniaco Conti was travelling before falling at the third last. His form in winning the King George is strong, and the good ground will be to his advantage.

However, Bobs Worth is a tremendous battler and has won every time he's raced at Cheltenham. Whether he would have won last year if SC had stay'd on his feet is difficult to say, and BW would probably want the ground to be on the softer side of good.

I think Siviniaco Conti makes for better value at 7/2 with The Giant Bolster a decent each way bet (2nd and 4th the last two years)
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: taylorsworkrate on March 14, 2014, 06:58:08 AM
The racing aside from the Gold Cup isn't really as strong today. That's the problem they created when they extended it to a 4 day festival.
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: Brend'Watkins on March 14, 2014, 09:19:15 AM
Had a great day out there yesterday, Got off to a great start with a the winner in the first.  Not a sniff after that.  Seen Matt Dawson of Spurs there and lots of people I know who I haven't seen for a while.  Great day, great fun, roll on next year's meeting.
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on March 14, 2014, 09:36:35 AM
Claret Cloak seems to be apt today.
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: andyaston on March 14, 2014, 04:27:50 PM
That was the strangest Gold Cup I've ever watched.
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: manic-road on March 14, 2014, 06:44:42 PM
Claret Cloak seems to be apt today.

Third for claret cloak, ok for each way betters.
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: taylorsworkrate on March 14, 2014, 06:45:30 PM
That was the strangest Gold Cup I've ever watched.

I really think.that should have been overturned
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: olaftab on March 14, 2014, 10:33:07 PM
Raya Star, a race horse, died today at Cheltenham-fractured  spine-bringing the death toll to 4 in this festival.
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: taylorsworkrate on March 15, 2014, 04:48:38 AM
Daryll Jacob: "I'm Fine"

Then taken to hospital with broken leg, broken knee and broken elbow.

These jockeys are as tough as nails.
Title: Re: Cheltenham 2014
Post by: olaftab on March 15, 2014, 05:57:11 AM
On the TV it's looks almost serene and elegant.
I stood on the fence once at Chester as they hurtled past near the finish line. It's bloody frightening. It's a long way to fall at speed with almost no control.
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