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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Clampy on January 02, 2014, 06:40:08 PM
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2-0.
Gabby and Weimann.
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Great job. 4-0 Villa.
Helenius 4, 16, 33, 69
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2-1 home win. Albs & Bowery
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Steer
Lowton
Donacien
Clark
Luna
Sylla
Gardner
Albrighton
Tonev
Weimann
Helenius
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Subs: Guzan, Baker, Delph, Westwood, Bowery, Agbonlahor, Bacuna
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Do I not like the words coming out of Lambert's mouth about the FA cup. If he fields a sub stander team and uu we lose I will be very annoyed. This is the FA cup so show some respect and field out best available as the next League game is 9 days after.6
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I think Benteke should play if fit. He needs to get back to scoring again and this game gives him some additional playing time to improve his match fitness and a healthy chance to get going again on the scoresheet.
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Do I not like the words coming out of Lambert's mouth about the FA cup. If he fields a sub stander team and uu we lose I will be very annoyed. This is the FA cup so show some respect and field out best available as the next League game is 9 days after.6
Please read through the FA Cup thread for clarification.
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Do I not like the words coming out of Lambert's mouth about the FA cup. If he fields a sub stander team and uu we lose I will be very annoyed. This is the FA cup so show some respect and field out best available as the next League game is 9 days after.6
Olly, there's nothing to see here in terms of what Lambert said. Nothing controversial and nothing that suggests he doesn't want to win it. Like every other PL manager he'll be making changes to the first choice side, both to give others a game and through injury. Storm in a teacup.
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2-1 Too many getting over excited after our most welcome win at Sunderland.
Benteke (pen) Agbonlahor.
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3-1 home win.
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1-0 Sheff United
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1-2 Sheffield United and a huge sigh of relief from Lambert.
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1-2 Sheffield United and a huge sigh of relief from Lambert.
Idiotic post of 2014 so far, well done.
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2014.
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2014.
edited, my bad (as the kids say innit).
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2014.
edited, my bad (as the kids say innit).
Blood. Or something.
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1-2 Sheffield United and a huge sigh of relief from Lambert.
Idiotic post of 2014 so far, well done.
What exactly has Lambert said today that makes me think he wants to win this game ?
Unless it's all a cunning plan on his behalf.
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As Sheff Utd are very shit and will probably not go with their first 11, neither will we, and we will play well and win comfortably. I know the winning bit with ease because I have decided against going, which is something I have not done for a very, very long time.
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1-2 Sheffield United and a huge sigh of relief from Lambert.
Idiotic post of 2014 so far, well done.
What exactly has Lambert said today that makes me think he wants to win this game ?
And I was about to quote that you were winding him up!
Why on earth would a manager not want to win a game (other than MON, who did it once in his whole reign)??? Very bizarre thoughts, you have.
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Steer
Herd
Donacien
Clark
Luna
Albrighton
Sylla
KEA
Tonev
Helenius
Benteke (if kozak is indeed injured)
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1-2 Sheffield United and a huge sigh of relief from Lambert.
Idiotic post of 2014 so far, well done.
What exactly has Lambert said today that makes me think he wants to win this game ?
And I was about to quote that you were winding him up!
Why on earth would a manager not want to win a game (other than MON, who did it once in his whole reign)??? Very bizarre thoughts, you have.
Not as bizarre as his comments 2 days before the match. Why heap a load of pressure on the team ?
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Check out the FA Cup thread for clarification.
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1-2 Sheffield United and a huge sigh of relief from Lambert.
Idiotic post of 2014 so far, well done.
What exactly has Lambert said today that makes me think he wants to win this game ?
Unless it's all a cunning plan on his behalf.
Of course he wants to win it, he's just saying that the cup has been devalued from what it was. Would he have taken us to a semi final last season if he wasn't bothered about winning a trophy?
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1-2 Sheffield United and a huge sigh of relief from Lambert.
Idiotic post of 2014 so far, well done.
What exactly has Lambert said today that makes me think he wants to win this game ?
And I was about to quote that you were winding him up!
Why on earth would a manager not want to win a game (other than MON, who did it once in his whole reign)??? Very bizarre thoughts, you have.
Not as bizarre as his comments 2 days before the match. Why heap a load of pressure on the team ?
Did you read what he said?
"Cup competitions, if you can get through, then absolutely I want to get through. I don't want to not get through but your main one is the league."
What's wrong with that ffs?
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Paul Lambert says Villa must "earn the right" to progress in the FA Cup on Saturday against Sheff Utd.
Boss Lambert is more than aware that the Blades will arrive in B6 this weekend with giantkilling aspirations.
But he hopes that the confidence gained from the Sunderland win on Wednesday will help see his team through to the fourth round.
Lambert insists that the Barclays Premier League festive programme has been "gruelling physically and mentally" for his stars.
For that reason, he admits he's looking to make changes, with several players eager to impress the gaffer.
He also confesses that he has one eye on the big top-flight clash against Arsenal.
He said: "The FA Cup is something you want to progress in.
"We want to get to the next round. We will try and get through.
"We are at home which is good.
"I never take games like this lightly. You have to earn the right.
"I know Nigel has not been long in at Bramall Lane. But it will be a tough game.
"There will no pressure on them at all. They will go out and play.
"We have to be right on it to get through.
"Nigel did well at Derby but he's at a different club now. It will be a tough match, no doubt.
"But if we play the way we did against Sunderland, hopefully we will go through. That win will certainly give us more confidence than we would have had.
"I thought we were excellent in the way we played at the Stadium of Light and I thought we should have won by more, with the chances we had.
"On the counter attack, I thought we were excellent. We thoroughly deserved to win the game.
"In this one, Sheff Utd will raise their game. Our stadium will be new to their lads. We will try and play our normal game and get through."
On the non-stop league programme, he added: "It's been relentless, physically and mentally. It's been really, really tough.
"The lads are fine. They know it's like that in the festive period. You have to come through the games.
"We will have a cup match now and then a bit of a break until the Arsenal game.
"The cup competition gives you that respite.
"In the back of the mind, you also know you've got a massive game a week on Monday. That's why the Sunderland game was vital to try to win.
"If I do leave some lads out due to a rest, they will be fresh for the Arsenal game.
"There's two ways to look at it. You put everyone in again and you then get injuries. We haven't got a big enough squad to do it.
"Some lads need games and we have a difficult match against Arsenal upcoming too the following Monday."
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1-2 Sheffield United and a huge sigh of relief from Lambert.
Idiotic post of 2014 so far, well done.
What exactly has Lambert said today that makes me think he wants to win this game ?
And I was about to quote that you were winding him up!
Why on earth would a manager not want to win a game (other than MON, who did it once in his whole reign)??? Very bizarre thoughts, you have.
Not as bizarre as his comments 2 days before the match. Why heap a load of pressure on the team ?
yes, because our manager wants us to lose. I've thought that all along about Lambert. I even bet he's even taking a cut of the transfer fee and player wages just to screw the club. He'll be off soon you watch, the deceitful bastard.
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As I'm not going we'll win 7-0.
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As I'm not going we'll win 7-0.
As I've been so negative we will win 7-0
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The Gladiator to start and score a hat-trick.
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Hope pl gives Benteke at least one half to get on the score sheet 2-0 Benteke Albrighton .......
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Hope pl gives Benteke at least one half to get on the score sheet 2-0 Benteke Albrighton .......
I would like to see both Benteke and Weimann given a decent chance to get confidence boosting goals.
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If Lambert's got any brains he'll use this as a game to give some morale and maybe a goal to the out-of-forms, namely Benteke and Weimann. Saying that he really needs to give Helenius a game, and I'd like to see Gardner, Sylla, and Albrighton get a full game.
3-1 to the Villa, Benteke for two and Weimann for the third.
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Gardner has to start.
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Hope pl gives Benteke at least one half to get on the score sheet 2-0 Benteke Albrighton .......
I would like to see both Benteke and Weimann given a decent chance to get confidence boosting goals.
I'm torn on this issue. I think Benteke is still a little off 100% so I'd possibly rest him ahead of the Prem games. Likewise Weimann looks very jaded, not just in terms of form but he's running on empty at the moment.
I think Helenius needs to play. With Kozak out now, Helenius needs to be ready to step up to the plate if called upon. Get him in, hopefully he'll get a goal and it'll do him the world of good.
If we're struggling then we can bring Benteke off the bench perhaps.
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Couldn't agree more supertom!
Get the Gladiator on!
UTV!
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Please read through the FA Cup thread for clarification.
Olly, there's nothing to see here in terms of what Lambert said. Nothing controversial and nothing that suggests he doesn't want to win it. Like every other PL manager he'll be making changes to the first choice side, both to give others a game and through injury. Storm in a teacup.
Apologies for letting off steam on this but I think you both know where've I stand when it ones to the FA cup.
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Steer
Lowton
Donacien
Clark
Luna
Sylla
Gardner
Albrighton
Tonev
Weimann
Helenius
Looks good to me.
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Steer
Lowton
Donacien
Clark
Luna
Sylla
Gardner
Albrighton
Tonev
Weimann
Helenius
Looks good to me.
If you want to get knocked out of the FA Cup
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I've got an awful feeling we'll get knocked out.
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Off to meet some customers now. Think I might try telling them that I can't really be arsed with their account, it doesn't really matter to us and because of that we'll probably use untrained people who don't really know what they're doing. Honest but i wonder what my boss will say. Unprofessional Lambert. We shouldn't be reading this before a competitive game whether it's honest or not.
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Off to meet some customers now. Think I might try telling them that I can't really be arsed with their account, it doesn't really matter to us and because of that we'll probably use untrained people who don't really know what they're doing. Honest but i wonder what my boss will say. Unprofessional Lambert. We shouldn't be reading this before a competitive game whether it's honest or not.
A fairer analogy would be to ask how you would reply if a business journal asked you whether that customer's account would generally be regarded within your sector as being as important as one for a much bigger customer worth a lot more money.
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I think It necessarily is as it's unlikely that a journo would ask about a specific account but if asked are all accounts as important to us I would answer yes. All of our customers are important and we look to meet the differing needs of each of those to deliver the highest possible service. Everyone knows the £1m accounts get more attention than the £5 order but it would be professional suicide to say that and I would expect to lose my job in the storm that followed. We all know that the fa cup is not AS important but it still important because as others have said it is the only trophy we could win this year. What I wouldn't say is why would I bother with tiny accounts which won't help my bonus. Tell the industry readers that the only thing that mattered to me was how much money I earned for as long as I possibly could
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Steer
Lowton Clark Baker Luna
KEA Sylla Gardner
Bowery Helenius Tonev
Is how I fear he will go based on comments.
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3-1 villa. Benteke and weinmann with 1 each to boost there confidence and Gardner to get a 3rd
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Why do people keep insisting on bringing business analogies into football? It isn't like other businesses and you can't judge it like them.
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Villa 4-1 and an easy draw for the next round.
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How we might set up:
Steer
Bacuna
Baker
Herd
Bennett
Gardner
Sylla
Delph/Westwood
Albrighton
Benteke
Tonev
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Poor match with Sheffield parking the bus but Villa to win 1-0.
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With respect David it is a business for messrs Lerner and Lambert and the latter has behaved unprofessionally whether by business or football standards. AnywAy back to the football and a 3-0 win for Villa!
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With respect David it is a business for messrs Lerner and Lambert and the latter has behaved unprofessionally whether by business or football standards. AnywAy back to the football and a 3-0 win for Villa!
No he hasnt, and the one thing you could never accuse Randy of is treating it like a normal business, which leads back to what I said earlier.
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Why do people keep insisting on bringing business analogies into football? It isn't like other businesses and you can't judge it like them.
I agree, the point of my post was that if a business analogy was being applied then the one that had been suggested was not on all fours with the facts here anyway.
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I've seen others say that we should rest Benteke and play the likes of Helenius. For me though, I think it could be a good opportunity to get Benters firing again. He just needs one goal and he could be back to his old self.
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Well that's the beauty of different opinions. I guess we just have different interpretations of the "facts"
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A free game for my son and I tomorrow in The North Stand thanks to our Villacash from our season tickets.
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Villa win
4-1.
Anyone selling H&V near the Witton Lane Stand tomorrow?
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A 2-0 win for Villa with Albrighton and Delph scoring.
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Mr. Woodhall.
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Mr. Woodhall.
Thanks Legion
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Mr. Woodhall.
Still Mr? We need to get a petition sorted in time for the next New Year's honours.
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Benteke to get a confidence boosting goal!
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Mr. Woodhall.
Still Mr? We need to get a petition sorted in time for the next New Year's honours.
Lord Woodhall of the Hawthorns
Lord Woodhall of Loiteringunderthesouvenirstandawningbecauseitsdrizzlingabit
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Going back to the first game of the season against Arsenal, I thought the way we played we could beat anybody which is ideal for the FA Cup. I'm convinced this is our year despite the team playing shite, on the positive side, we can only improve. Tomorrow is the start of our glorious cup run so it's pretty easy to predict a win.
3-0 Villa.
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Lord Woodhall of Loiteringunderthesouvenirstandawningbecauseitsdrizzlingabit
Ich sehe, dass Sie eine sehr gute Deutsch haben.
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With respect David it is a business for messrs Lerner and Lambert and the latter has behaved unprofessionally whether by business or football standards. AnywAy back to the football and a 3-0 win for Villa!
No he hasnt, and the one thing you could never accuse Randy of is treating it like a normal business, which leads back to what I said earlier.
Randy made his money from lending money so I would suggest that he is a hard bottom line operator. If he treated Villa like a normal business he would have sold us to asset strippers about 48 months ago.
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I have voted a Villa win. I'm wondering what a bloody reply is? I hope it's not more long term injuries enforced on our thread bear squad.
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I have voted a Villa win. I'm wondering what a bloody reply is? I hope it's not more long term injuries enforced on our thread bear squad.
It says 'replay'. Get your eyesight checked.
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With respect David it is a business for messrs Lerner and Lambert and the latter has behaved unprofessionally whether by business or football standards. AnywAy back to the football and a 3-0 win for Villa!
No he hasnt, and the one thing you could never accuse Randy of is treating it like a normal business, which leads back to what I said earlier.
Randy made his money from lending money so I would suggest that he is a hard bottom line operator. If he treated Villa like a normal business he would have sold us to asset strippers about 48 months ago.
Correct - any reason why you used 48 months and not 4 years?
Asset strippers who could sell the naming rights to the ground, sell the ground in fact and pile £10's millions debt onto the club the way the Glazers did at no real risk to themselves.
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208 weeks?
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Tomorrow's match kicks off at 480 minutes past 07:00 or 540 minutes to midnight.
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With respect David it is a business for messrs Lerner and Lambert and the latter has behaved unprofessionally whether by business or football standards. AnywAy back to the football and a 3-0 win for Villa!
No he hasnt, and the one thing you could never accuse Randy of is treating it like a normal business, which leads back to what I said earlier.
Randy made his money from lending money so I would suggest that he is a hard bottom line operator. If he treated Villa like a normal business he would have sold us to asset strippers about 48 months ago.
Correct - any reason why you used 48 months and not 4 years?
Asset strippers who could sell the naming rights to the ground, sell the ground in fact and pile £10's millions debt onto the club the way the Glazers did at no real risk to themselves.
How much money do you think the land the ground is on is worth? I'll venture not very much, given the amount of already empty waste land around Aston.
Asset strippers also wouldn't be selling naming rights to the ground, either. They'd be breaking the business up and flogging off the constituent parts at a profit - something which would be almost impossible to do if they'd bought Villa.
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Tomorrow's match kicks off at 480 minutes past 07:00 or 540 minutes to midnight.
Make your mind up...
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I never said I thought that Randy was a good business man when it game to Villa. If he wasnt prepared to invest this time last year as a fan one would have expected his business head to not want risk missing out on the big lift in Premier League money. Of course the fact we stayed up could be argued he is an excellent football business man.
Staying up and finishing 15th every year may well be an excellent business model for him but it certainly wont make me renew my season ticket. Do I want him to sell to the highest bidding Arab so we can do a City? In a perfect world no but I am not sure I am ready to accept mediocrity.
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Nice article about Ron Vlaar here -
@MatKendrick: Ron rendezvous: Matt Lowton reveals how Ron Vlaar get together helped #avfc defence http://t.co/bgev40GppS
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The Assets of Aston Villa are worth more as a going concern with a place in the Premier League than any other scenario. So if Randy did want to cash out, this is how he would hope to leave the Club.
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Vlaar aside, it'd better be a side that's capable of winning tomorrow.
And Benteke should be the first name on the team sheet. He needs minutes and goals and with no other game for 9 days this is the perfect one for him to get going again.
In fact with no game on the horizon I see no reason why we shouldn't be giving it the full 100%. We are after all supposed to be PREPARED
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I have voted a Villa win. I'm wondering what a bloody reply is? I hope it's not more long term injuries enforced on our thread bear squad.
It says 'replay'. Get your eyesight checked.
Ooops.
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1-1 and will win the replay
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I would prefer not to go to a replay but if it does then I think the Arsenal match gets brought forward to Sunday as opposed to Monday.
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I would prefer not to go to a replay but if it does then I think the Arsenal match gets brought forward to Sunday as opposed to Monday.
Yep, 12 noon on Sunday if villa or arsenal need a replay.
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Ah. Villa win and Arsenal to draw then please.
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An Arsenal draw would be splendid. I hate Monday night games as i'm not a fricking American watching girls rugby.
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Has anyone stopped to think that as Sheffield United are currently a point away from the League One bottom four, they might not be making this match their top priority either?
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Has anyone stopped to think that a Sheffield United are currently a point away from the League One bottom four, they might not be making this match their top priority either?
Exactly what my Blades' mate said a few days ago!
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Has anyone stopped to think that a Sheffield United are currently a point away from the League One bottom four, they might not be making this match their top priority either?
Not from what cloughie is saying -
http://www.sufc.co.uk/news/article/20140103-do-it-for-the-fans-1273846.aspx
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Has anyone stopped to think that a Sheffield United are currently a point away from the League One bottom four, they might not be making this match their top priority either?
Not from what cloughie is saying -
http://www.sufc.co.uk/news/article/20140103-do-it-for-the-fans-1273846.aspx
He missed out the bit about the cup being a great leveller but apart from that there's enough cliches in there.
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Missing the game as my girls have a match against Stoke City away at 1pm, but hoping he gives some youth a chance, Helenius for hat trick for me!
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Aston Villa Reserves 2
Sheffield United Reserves 1
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Has anyone stopped to think that a Sheffield United are currently a point away from the League One bottom four, they might not be making this match their top priority either?
Exactly what my Blades' mate said a few days ago!
Jesus weeps....
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Sheffield are not taking it seriously??? Bu, bu, but, jumpers for goalposts, when we were school kids the FA cup was all we dreamt of etc etc etc.
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With 6,000 away fans en-route I would hazard a guess that they won't play a reserve team.
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With 6,000 away fans en-route I would hazard a guess that they won't play a reserve team.
They've got a couple of their "star" players out with knocks from Wednesday v Walsall apparently, but they're gonna be up for it!
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If it was Wednesday v Walsall how did United players got injured?
(please don't answer!)
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I want a full-strength side out - other than Vlaar who should be rested even if basically fit to play:
Guzan; Lowton, Clark, Baker, Luna; Westwood, Bacuna, Delph, Albrighton; Agbonlahor, Benteke.
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If it was Wednesday v Walsall how did United players got injured?
(please don't answer!)
Believe me there is no love lost between them. I know several of each - Blades and Owls fans that is.
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2-0 Bacuna Tonev
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Steer
Lowton
Donacien
Clark
Luna
Sylla
Gardner
Albrighton
Tonev
Weimann
Helenius
11 nil? Blimey, a tad optimistic I'd say.....
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If it was Wednesday v Walsall how did United players got injured?
(please don't answer!)
This is very slightly amusing olaf....
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If it was Wednesday v Walsall how did United players got injured?
(please don't answer!)
Believe me there is no love lost between them. I know several of each - Blades and Owls fans that is.
???
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How do Owls fans feel about Gibbons?
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If it was Wednesday v Walsall how did United players got injured?
(please don't answer!)
This is very slightly amusing olaf....
It made me hOWL with laughter
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i had a ticket as a season ticket holder got first offers but decided after lambo,s crap interview they can it keep it
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I am dying here. The (youth) players tomorrow should wear black arm bands, what ever will we do after the death of our beloved cup??? <sniff>.
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3-1 to the Villa
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2 - 1
Gabby (2). Deane for them.
Then we get Man City in the 4th round, doesn't matter home or away.
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Lots of snow and Yorkie to win it with a chipped penalty.
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The TV made a lot of Lamberts interview last night. He made News at Ten. Lady Ron asked 'what did he just say?'
Havent got a clue, said I. truthfully.
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I'd definitely play Tekkers. He needs a goal.
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I would go
Steer
Lowton
Donancien
Clark
Luna
Sylla
KEA
Albrighton
Tonev
Helenius
Bowery
With the rest on the bench. It should still be enough to win, and gives players a break. Afraid I am with Lambert on the timing of the fixture.
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Steer
Lowton
Clark
Baker
Luna
Sylla
Gardner
Albrighton
Tonev
Helenius
Benteke
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Steer
Lowton
Clark
Baker
Luna
Sylla
Gardner
Albrighton
Tonev
Helenius
Benteke
I like the look of that but i'd go with Gabby rather than Helenius. Lower league sides can't cope with pace very well and they'll be used to dealing with 6ft centre forwards.
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Steer
Lowton
Clark
Baker
Luna
Sylla
Gardner
Albrighton
Tonev
Helenius
Benteke
I like the look of that but i'd go with Gabby rather than Helenius. Lower league sides can't cope with pace very well and they'll be used to dealing with 6ft centre forwards.
I would have gone with Gabby too had Kozak not been injured. I just feel like now Helenius really needs a full game as he's likely to be our plan B upfront now.
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I see no reason why it should not be the team that started against Sunderland minus Vlaar. We don't have a League match for 10 days so play the best available.
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I would go
Steer
Lowton
Donancien
Clark
Luna
Sylla
KEA
Albrighton
Tonev
Helenius
Bowery
With the rest on the bench. It should still be enough to win, and gives players a break. Afraid I am with Lambert on the timing of the fixture.
I don't get it, isn't the FA Cup third round always this weekend? We don't have a league game for 9 days - it is just like having a league game today, surely? A cup run would give them a huge boost in confidence.
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The sort of game that we would have won 5-0 several years ago. I will wind that down to 3-0.
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I see no reason why it should not be the team that started against Sunderland minus Vlaar. We don't have a League match for 10 days so play the best available.
and I agree with you. But Lambert will select a weakened team and if we get through he will select another weakened team. Im going down but I expect it will be a very low crowd.
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Looking forward to this, I was born just down the road from Bramall lane and most of my family support united or Wednesday. My parents moved to Birmingham hence me and my younger brothers and sisters supporting the greatest Team in the world.
Its funny how a time or an event changes your whole life but without that event, I would be in the opposite end today!
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I can honestly see this being a fairly boring defeat. But it is also winnable even if we make a few changes, provided we maintain some of our better players throughout the side
Something like:
Steer - Lowton donacien Clark Luna - albrighton sylla Delph bacuna - Bowery / helenius benteke
Look to give benteke an hour or so. Ideally we'd get to see Gardner and one or two other kids but I think if we put too many in we'll lose
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Villa to just squeeze home 2-1, be good to see how Donacien performs so really hope he starts the match, such a shame Lambert made those comments, I understand his thinking but although its so long ago we have a very proud heritage in this competion and he would have been better keeping those thoughts to himself, lets get ourselves into the 4th round and then march on to our 8th F A Cup Final win :) :)
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I just see no reason at all to play Benteke. He has been out injured, came back quickly and looked much more himself, but rest is much better than risking him today. Helenius has been bought to do a job, and he should be trusted with playing a league 1 side!
Ditto, Donacien is good enough for this level and so are the likes of Gardner, Sylla etc. KEA will look better as the game will not be as fast, and over all even with my proposed side I think we should win comfortably.
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I was surprised to see Lambert's quotes make News At Ten. I think people are going over the top. Has their been any fuss made over Nigel Clough agreeing with him? 3-0 to Villa today.
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It's funny but we get regular calls for fringe players to be given a chance yet when the manager makes comments that 'could' be interpreted as him considering that option we see an outcry from some sections of the support.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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It's funny but we get regular calls for fringe players to be given a chance yet when the manager makes comments that 'could' be interpreted as him considering that option we see an outcry from some sections of the support.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
This is it. There's been people on here wanting us to recall Grealish and Carruthers and the moment it's suggested for a cup game, all hell breaks loose.
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It's funny but we get regular calls for fringe players to be given a chance yet when the manager makes comments that 'could' be interpreted as him considering that option we see an outcry from some sections of the support.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
But this is the FA Cup and we want to win the damn thing.
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It's funny but we get regular calls for fringe players to be given a chance yet when the manager makes comments that 'could' be interpreted as him considering that option we see an outcry from some sections of the support.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
But this is the FA Cup and we want to win the damn thing.
And you think that playing Sylla and Gardner instead of Westwood and Delph against Sheffield Utd is going to be the difference between us winning the FA Cup and not?
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We've still got a group of players who should deal with League One relegation candidates however much they raise their game. I don't really care who starts because I expect them too have enough. Just.
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We've still got a group of players who should deal with League One relegation candidates however much they raise their game. I don't really care who starts because I expect them too have enough. Just.
Lower league clubs can lift their game as our side found against bradford .
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Clearly. And as Ipswich, Rotherham QPR - or was it Leicester- found, even top sides playing poorly in the top flight usually get through.
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It's funny but we get regular calls for fringe players to be given a chance yet when the manager makes comments that 'could' be interpreted as him considering that option we see an outcry from some sections of the support.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
But this is the FA Cup and we want to win the damn thing.
And you think that playing Sylla and Gardner instead of Westwood and Delph against Sheffield Utd is going to be the difference between us winning the FA Cup and not?
No but it may get us into the latter rounds, then who knows? Bloody Wigan won it last year!
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Clearly. And as Ipswich, Rotherham QPR - or was it Leicester- found, even top sides playing poorly in the top flight usually get through.
Usually.
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Clearly. And as Ipswich, Rotherham QPR - or was it Leicester- found, even top sides playing poorly in the top flight usually get through.
Usually.
Yes. And my original post said "should".
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It's funny but we get regular calls for fringe players to be given a chance yet when the manager makes comments that 'could' be interpreted as him considering that option we see an outcry from some sections of the support.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
But this is the FA Cup and we want to win the damn thing.
And you think that playing Sylla and Gardner instead of Westwood and Delph against Sheffield Utd is going to be the difference between us winning the FA Cup and not?
No but it may get us into the latter rounds, then who knows? Bloody Wigan won it last year!
Teams tend to put out a stronger team the further they progress - if we got to the latter stages I'm sure we would play our strongest team.
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It's funny but we get regular calls for fringe players to be given a chance yet when the manager makes comments that 'could' be interpreted as him considering that option we see an outcry from some sections of the support.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
But this is the FA Cup and we want to win the damn thing.
And you think that playing Sylla and Gardner instead of Westwood and Delph against Sheffield Utd is going to be the difference between us winning the FA Cup and not?
No but it may get us into the latter rounds, then who knows? Bloody Wigan won it last year!
So Sylla and Gardner (both of whom people have been making a case for being in our first team anyway) won't be good enough to get past Sheffield Utd, but Delph and Westwood will?
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If I had a choice none of them other than Delph would be in the Villa squad, but I'd rather Westwood over Sylla. As for Gardner, I've heard lots about him being a good young player but I've yet to see anything to back it up.
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As for Gardner, I've heard lots about him being a good young player but I've yet to see anything to back it up.
So maybe a game, against say a League One side might be a good time for him to start showing you something?
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As for Gardner, I've heard lots about him being a good young player but I've yet to see anything to back it up.
So maybe a game, against say a League One side might be a good time for him to start showing you something?
I think I'd rather him used as a sub in the league. One bad performance in the Cup and we're out.
Obviously if he scores the winner today I shall ruthlessly hunt down this post and delete it.
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Looking forward to today.
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So let me get this right.
It's not okay to bring in young players like Gardner for a FA Cup tie against a team from a lower league but we need to start bringing in young players like Gardner for League matches against teams at our level even though (apparently according to many) we are in a relegation battle.
Got it, carry on.
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So let me get this right.
It's not okay to bring in young players like Gardner for a FA Cup tie against a team from a lower league but we need to start bringing in young players like Gardner for League matches against teams at our level even though (apparently according to many) we are in a relegation battle.
Got it, carry on.
You are Paul Lambert and I claim my FACup winners medal.
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So let me get this right.
It's not okay to bring in young players like Gardner for a FA Cup tie against a team from a lower league but we need to start bringing in young players like Gardner for League matches against teams at our level even though (apparently according to many) we are in a relegation battle.
Got it, carry on.
I believe its what's known as arguing for the sake of it.
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So let me get this right.
It's not okay to bring in young players like Gardner for a FA Cup tie against a team from a lower league but we need to start bringing in young players like Gardner for League matches against teams at our level even though (apparently according to many) we are in a relegation battle.
Got it, carry on.
I think Lambert and Lerner would like you.
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What for applying logic and not trying to make out playing kids against a league 1 side might be a better plan than against a prem side?
I hope he plays a mix of kids and stiffs and they win 4-0 and he shoves some of the shit that has been hyped up about it all down peoples throats.
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kids and stiffs? so he's proposing to play our strongest side!
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What for applying logic and not trying to make out playing kids against a league 1 side might be a better plan than against a prem side?
I hope he plays a mix of kids and stiffs and they win 4-0 and he shoves some of the shit that has been hyped up about it all down peoples throats.
I also hope we win 4-0. We're taking a chance playing kids though. This is the FA Cup and one mistake and we're out for yet another season. I'd rather we play our 1st team and give us a better chance.
What's so wrong with this view?
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Strongest team possible today, please. They certainly need the practice. Fringe players can be give time in the second half and learn how to fit in with Lambert's 'system' rather than wholesale changes that achieve nothing apart from game time.
Fans at Villa Park bloody deserve to be entertained too.
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Anyway the misses has packed my Villa shirt in one of our 9 (nine) suitcases so I have to go into the game without me wearing my Villa shirt. Defeat, or a draw at best, beckons. Sorry-o.
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Off to Villa park to watch us play in the Third round of the FA cup. Great always loved this round. Come on Villa........
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So let me get this right.
It's not okay to bring in young players like Gardner for a FA Cup tie against a team from a lower league but we need to start bringing in young players like Gardner for League matches against teams at our level even though (apparently according to many) we are in a relegation battle.
Got it, carry on.
I think Lambert and Lerner would like you.
And I think I like them so all is good.