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Title: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: eastie on October 26, 2013, 07:53:43 AM
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Marc Albrighton’s frustration continues as the Villa winger recovers from surgery to cure a throat problem.

It is the latest setback to hit Albrighton, who is in the final year of his contract and battling to save his claret and blue career.

Manager Paul Lambert is again contemplating whether to allow Albrighton out on loan when the 23-year-old fully recovers from his operation.

There have been several enquires from clubs wanting to take the Bodymoor Heath academy graduate on a temporary basis.

Albrighton missed the second half of last season with a broken foot and the recent problem with his voice box follows a thigh injury in pre-season.

He has played just one match since January, producing an encouraging performance during the Capital One Cup defeat to Tottenham last month.

“He is doing all right,” said Lambert. “There have been one or two asking for him on loan. I have had a chat with him, but I don’t know. He’s doing all right in training. He’s working hard.

“There seems to be one thing after another but he’s battled back pretty well.”

Gary Gardner is making slow progress with his back problem, but hopes to return next month after missing all of the season so far.

“His back is not recovering too well,” confirmed Lambert.

“We need to give him a week or so to see how he’s going. It’s just his back. He went to see the specialist on it, but we don’t know if it’s a nerve.

“We need to give him more time, like the specialist said.”
Title: Re: Albrighton has further surgery.
Post by: Big Dick Edwards on October 26, 2013, 08:38:02 AM
Both Marc and Gary have been extremely unlucky with injuries so early in their careers. Let's hope they come through ultimately stronger players.
Title: Re: Albrighton has further surgery.
Post by: eastie on October 26, 2013, 09:14:58 AM
Both Marc and Gary have been extremely unlucky with injuries so early in their careers. Let's hope they come through ultimately stronger players.

With this being his last year in contract i wonder if lambert has seen enough to offer him another one .
Title: Re: Albrighton has further surgery.
Post by: supertom on October 26, 2013, 09:20:38 AM
Feel for both of them. It's a shame that injuries have held both back, GG in particular. Gardner is in his final year too isn't he?

I would be very surprised if we extended Albrightons contract. He'll be on about 20k a week I'd have thought.

As for Gardner he might earn a years extension perhaps but I can't see him getting more than that.

In terms of Alby it's a real shame he's not fit and raring to go right now. There's a place for him in the side, given we're in dire need of some width and decent delivery from wide.
Title: Re: Albrighton has further surgery.
Post by: eastie on October 26, 2013, 09:28:38 AM
We are in dire need of width i agree but even with a fit albrighton I'm still not sure lambert would use him - sad because under houllier he looked so promising.

Regarding Gardner i had high hopes of him becoming the best of our young players for many years but he seems to be a bit  injury prone - I think he needs to find fitness and impress later this season or he might  miss out on a new deal.
Title: Re: Albrighton has further surgery.
Post by: eamonn on October 26, 2013, 12:30:40 PM
They're the two products of our academy that have shown they could make adifference to us as a creative  force and they both seem fairly humble, hard-working young men so I hope they catch a break with us before its too late.
Title: Re: Albrighton has further surgery.
Post by: PaulWinch again on October 26, 2013, 01:48:13 PM
They're the two products of our academy that have shown they could make adifference to us as a creative  force and they both seem fairly humble, hard-working young men so I hope they catch a break with us before its too late.

I think they're going to struggle and I had high hopes for Gardner.
Title: Re: Albrighton has further surgery.
Post by: achilles on October 26, 2013, 05:58:06 PM
They're the two products of our academy that have shown they could make adifference to us as a creative  force and they both seem fairly humble, hard-working young men so I hope they catch a break with us before its too late.

I think they're going to struggle and I had high hopes for Gardner.

Unfortunately I am coming to the same conclusion, its a real shame!
Title: Re: Albrighton has further surgery.
Post by: myf on October 26, 2013, 06:06:37 PM
Isn't gardner fit again?
Title: Re: Albrighton has further surgery.
Post by: eastie on October 26, 2013, 06:13:02 PM
Isn't gardner fit again?

Long term back injury - will be a few weeks at least yet.
Title: Re: Albrighton has further surgery.
Post by: Navin R Johnson on October 26, 2013, 08:53:31 PM
The Bomb Squad beckons for both of them I fear.
Title: Re: Albrighton has further surgery.
Post by: fredm on October 26, 2013, 09:12:48 PM
Think both should be offered 1 year deals at 50 per cent of their current wage with added incentives. Then, if they cut it, good. They will be on a decent wage and can be offered another deal. If they don't cut it then we haven't lost too much.  Think both would accept that as they would be hard pressed to get a better deal elsewhere.
Title: Re: Albrighton has further surgery.
Post by: VillaAlways on October 26, 2013, 09:19:11 PM
Brmingham Mail reporting he's off to Wigan on loan in the next few ays
Title: Re: Albrighton has further surgery.
Post by: FrankyH on October 26, 2013, 09:28:20 PM
Deserved a chance after the Spurs league cup game, offers more than Tonev.Wasn't bought by Lambert so doesn't get the same breaks as Westwood/KEA who should have been dropped because of their poor form.
Title: Re: Albrighton has further surgery.
Post by: VillaAlways on October 26, 2013, 09:30:55 PM
Deserved a chance after the Spurs league cup game, offers more than Tonev.Wasn't bought by Lambert so doesn't get the same breaks as Westwood/KEA who should have been dropped because of their poor form.
To be fair, I think he's been injured since the Spurs game
Title: Re: Albrighton has further surgery.
Post by: FrankyH on October 26, 2013, 09:35:03 PM
I thought LAmbert named him as a sub after the Spurs game, but wasn't used.Granted he was probably crocked after that.
Title: Re: Albrighton has further surgery.
Post by: VillaAlways on October 26, 2013, 09:47:06 PM
I thought LAmbert named him as a sub after the Spurs game, but wasn't used.Granted he was probably crocked after that.
You're probably right.I just automatically presume he's injured because he always seems to be
Title: Re: Albrighton has further surgery.
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 26, 2013, 09:56:46 PM
Think we'll cut our losses on Albrighton.

Can't see Gardner being sold, he's had two cruciate's in his career which is terrible luck for a young player. When you've had long term injuries it's not a surprise you start picking up other knocks/injuries.

I do wonder at what level he'll be at when he starts playing again but would like to see him get another chance here as he had what 6-7 games under TSM?
Title: Re: Albrighton has further surgery.
Post by: treeve1 on October 26, 2013, 11:19:34 PM
Come on guys get some perspective. As sad as it is, Albrighton is nowhere near good enough and never has been. We hoped he would be, but he isn't. As per bannan, lihaj, hogg, samuel, C Gardner, delfouneso, whittingham, and maybe clarke and baker etc etc. They are all ok academy players and maybe championship, but there isn't a genuine week in, week out prem player amongst them who can cut it with the big boys. The only one we've made who is truly worth it is gabby and he's erratic in his form. We need Ince from blackpool and make him into the next ashley young. It's all over for Albrighton and unfortunately Clarke and Baker will be next because they're a million miles away from Southgate, Laursen, Mcgrath, ugo etc.
Title: Re: Albrighton has further surgery.
Post by: eastie on October 27, 2013, 08:27:16 AM
@MatKendrick: Here Wig go: Marc Albrighton set to join Wigan on loan, initially for a month #avfc http://t.co/QYs58QAuWV

@MatKendrick: If he's to leave #avfc for good next summer, I hope Marc Albrighton has a Peter Whittingham style revival and returns to the Prem eventually
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: cdbearsfan on October 27, 2013, 08:46:10 AM
Good move. Should get plenty of match practise with them being in Europe too.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: supertom on October 27, 2013, 09:30:46 AM
Good move. Should get plenty of match practise with them being in Europe too.

Albrighton's moving up in the world. lol.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: eastie on October 27, 2013, 09:55:41 AM
Indeed , joining the fa cup winners , playing in Europe and having as manager Britain's answer to Juergen klopp in Owen coyle ( teeth only)
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 27, 2013, 11:24:32 AM
I think he'll do well there.

He still has talent but suffered big time from Young and Downing leaving in the same summer as when he came into the team all the opposition focus was on them.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: DrGonzo on October 27, 2013, 02:05:19 PM
I do hope he gets his career back on track.  I know a months loan isn't going to transform him, but a bit of confidence and some match fitness will do him the word of good.  Gods only know that we could do with some natural width at home.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: Ron Manager on October 27, 2013, 02:11:30 PM
I think this is a very good move for him which will be beneficial for the player and hopefully Aston Villa.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: JUAN PABLO on October 27, 2013, 02:41:04 PM
A Villa player playing in Europe. Blimey
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: junxs on October 28, 2013, 03:26:41 PM
A half fit Albrighton is better than Tonev
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: PaulWinch again on October 28, 2013, 03:32:37 PM
Tonev played quite well on Saturday, give him a chance. On Albrighton, hopefully this give him a chance.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on October 28, 2013, 03:38:00 PM

How did he go from MOTM against Spurs in the cup massacre to not even being on the bench ?

With our ridiculously narrow side, surely him on the bench (at least) would be ideal. Especially with our only other wide player N'Zog still unavailable
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: eastie on October 28, 2013, 03:47:46 PM

How did he go from MOTM against Spurs in the cup massacre to not even being on the bench ?

With our ridiculously narrow side, surely him on the bench (at least) would be ideal. Especially with our only other wide player N'Zog still unavailable

He had a throat operation and wasnt available.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on October 28, 2013, 06:50:31 PM

Right, so he is now i imagine ?
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on October 28, 2013, 07:54:25 PM
I want him to succeed. Home grown local lad who loves the club. Sadly I just dont think it is going to work out at Villa. Honestly I think Tonev is twice the player Albrighton is and Tonev looks more likely to improve.

Shame really :(
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: olaftab on October 28, 2013, 08:11:41 PM
Let's hope he plays well for them and hopefully ends up getting a transfer to them and a long term contract. If he does do well Whelan will sell him to Real for £30M!
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: Toronto Villa on October 28, 2013, 08:21:08 PM
He needs a consistent run of games and something from up above to keep him healthy. If he ends up there for a few months I'll be rooting for him. He's a good kid with a lot of bad luck so hopefully it will all work out well.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: Pete3206 on October 28, 2013, 09:04:47 PM
I want him to succeed. Home grown local lad who loves the club. Sadly I just dont think it is going to work out at Villa. Honestly I think Tonev is twice the player Albrighton is and Tonev looks more likely to improve.

Shame really :(

You see something in Tonev that I certainly don't. I hope you're right.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: Damo70 on October 28, 2013, 09:45:40 PM
Players don't tend to drop a level at his age and come back at the highest level successfully. Apart from Peter Crouch who DOL loaned to Norwich where he scored goals and came back with confidence restored. So then the genius flogged him. And replaced him with the goal machine Carlton Cole.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on October 28, 2013, 09:56:54 PM
I want him to succeed. Home grown local lad who loves the club. Sadly I just dont think it is going to work out at Villa. Honestly I think Tonev is twice the player Albrighton is and Tonev looks more likely to improve.

Shame really :(

You see something in Tonev that I certainly don't. I hope you're right.

it is admittedly a hard case to make on his performances but what i see is energy, ability and willingness to take men on and the courage to shoot. I know all of these have been laughably inconsistent so far but I honestly get excited every time I see Tonev come on and I strongly believe he is going to explode into form soon. I could be utterly wrong about this of course, but Tonev strikes me as a player who could improve very quickly, Albrighton just doesnt.

Maybe its because marc has been around the club so long I have just put him in a box. I hope I am wrong and the lad becomes a superstar at Villa, it is just with great reluctance I have to admit I dont believe he will.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: OCD on October 28, 2013, 10:40:51 PM
Tonev drove me nuts against Norwich when he was shooting at every opportunity. He only had one reckless shot on Saturday so that was better. His crossing was very poor but he played one or two intricate key passes. Someone said that he might be better playing behind Benteke and there might be something in that (it might even be why he was bought and become that playmaker we've been looking for).
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: fredm on October 29, 2013, 10:15:24 AM
Tonev made a break and  played the ball across the 6 yard box on saturday that was begging for someone to knock it in.  Unfortunately none of our other players were even in the penalty area.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: Clampy on October 29, 2013, 10:19:52 AM
I thought Tonev showed signs on Saturday that in time he could be quite a good player for us. As with a lot of foreign imports though, he'll need time.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: supertom on October 29, 2013, 10:29:25 AM
Tonev made a break and  played the ball across the 6 yard box on saturday that was begging for someone to knock it in.  Unfortunately none of our other players were even in the penalty area.

This happens quite often. No one in midfield really breaks into the box. Weimann isn't making enough runs in the box but he looks almost fearful in front of goal at the moment and lashes at every chance he gets. Our movement has been poor this season.

Tonev for me showed some promise, if anything else for having a bit of drive and confidence to just run with the ball. I'd also keep him playing wide because otherwise it's just another body in the center, where everyone just steps on each others toes. Tonev provided almost all our width on sat. The delivery needs to be more consistent, but we also need to get players showing the desire to break into the box too.

As for Alby, I honestly wouldn't be adverse to playing him on one wing, Tonev on the other and playing with width. 3 in CM. Benteke up top. Gabby and Weimann are ineffectual at the moment, and wasteful. But I don't think he's really in Lamberts long term plans. I think he'll go the way of Bannan etc. A loan will do him good just to get games under his belt, so if he is called upon, he's sharp and ready to go.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: TheTimVilla on October 29, 2013, 10:31:28 AM
I would fine Tonev every time he shoots!
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: supertom on October 29, 2013, 10:35:51 AM
I would fine Tonev every time he shoots!

Unless he rifles one in the top corner.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: TheTimVilla on October 29, 2013, 10:38:16 AM
Of the North Stand?
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: eastie on October 29, 2013, 10:58:42 AM
Tonev will be decent for us - at least he shows some positivity and drives forward - I'd like to see him have a decent run of games wide midfield with bacuna wide on the right - Weimann and gabby have been woefully off form - time to bench them.

Some say play gabby alongside benteke but I would prefer to play Kozak and benteke .
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: SoccerHQ on October 29, 2013, 11:06:41 AM
Tonev is no wideman imo, plenty of poor crosses on Saturday. But like others I noted a good throughball for Benteke's second chance so I think he could in time be an option to play off the striker which we desperately need.

I wish Albrighton luck but with his contract running down I think good form on this loan will either lead to Wigan permanently or another championship club.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: eastie on October 29, 2013, 11:08:54 AM
Tonev is more a wide midfielder rather than an out an out winger.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: paul_e on October 29, 2013, 11:56:08 AM
Tonev is no wideman imo, plenty of poor crosses on Saturday. But like others I noted a good throughball for Benteke's second chance so I think he could in time be an option to play off the striker which we desperately need.

I wish Albrighton luck but with his contract running down I think good form on this loan will either lead to Wigan permanently or another championship club.

Like Delph last year, what Alby really needs is 10games without any injuries so he can get a bit of match sharpness, that's what's been missing from his game for a few years and it's understandable given his injury record.  Getting that run of games in the championship suits everyone and if he comes back fit then we'll see from there.  He's got a lot of natural ability though.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on October 29, 2013, 01:03:45 PM

Albrighton was at the training session this morning (and scored one cracker, not that its important)

Tonev looked very bright too
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: eastie on October 29, 2013, 01:28:09 PM
@MatKendrick: Wigan are at home to QPR tomorrow night and hope Marc Albrighton will be signed on loan in time to make his debut in that game #avfc
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: rob_bridge on October 29, 2013, 01:37:09 PM
@MatKendrick: Wigan are at home to QPR tomorrow night and hope Marc Albrighton will be signed on loan in time to make his debut in that game #avfc

I think this could be a good move for all parties. I really don't think he has the quality to be anything more than a squad player - then again we seem to have a lot of those, some of who play regularly.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: supertom on October 29, 2013, 01:41:56 PM
Tonev is no wideman imo, plenty of poor crosses on Saturday. But like others I noted a good throughball for Benteke's second chance so I think he could in time be an option to play off the striker which we desperately need.

I wish Albrighton luck but with his contract running down I think good form on this loan will either lead to Wigan permanently or another championship club.

The problem with playing Tonev in the center is that we would also conceivably have Gabby, Weimann and Benteke all trying to play through the middle with him. Just for the sake of balance as much as anything I'd keep Tonev out wide.
Part of the reason our attack went totally non existent after Everton score saturday is that Tonev came off and Helenius came on. We then had no width at all.
Tonev's ball control, like many in the side, isn't very good either so that again is an issue if he's to play centrally.

I'd give him a run of games out wide and see if he can just get a bit more consistency with his delivery. Hopefully not being against a quality fullback like Baines might see him stand out a bit more in the next month.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: PaulWinch again on October 29, 2013, 03:33:07 PM
Tonev showed promise at the weekend and hopefully he'll improve. It really is last chance saloon for Albrighton.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: VillaAlways on October 30, 2013, 08:29:20 AM
Looks like it's done

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-winger-marc-albrighton-6253001
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: dekko on October 30, 2013, 08:56:06 AM
Heres hoping he can get some confidence back.  The poor lad looked a wreck at times last season.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: eamonn on October 30, 2013, 10:34:44 AM
Interesting to see Coyle say he tried to buy him before. There's no way we would have sold him in his breakthrough season under Houllier or in the McLeish year where he was involved (scored the winner at Coyle's Bolton, didn't he?) and played a lot better than people (mis)remember. It's only under Lambert when he's been largely injured or not had a run of games that any move would have been likely.

When people say he's not up to it I find it a bit strange considering most of our entire squad are pretty average talent-wise. If he does leave permanently I wouldn't be surprised to see him doing a Peter Whitts or even Steve Davis (seemingly under the radar for years after he left us and now playing for a team in the top four) in years to come and carve-out a decent career for himself in the Prem as he does have the talent and work ethic in my opinion.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: Clampy on October 30, 2013, 10:48:51 AM
I'd have liked to have seen him being given a bit more of a run with us before sending him out on loan but hopefully this will help him get back the form he showed under Houiller.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: eastie on October 30, 2013, 10:50:34 AM
I'd have liked to have seen him being given a bit more of a run with us before sending him out on loan but hopefully this will help him get back the form he showed under Houiller.

I agree, although with lamberts reluctance to use wingers I'm not sure he would have played much even when fit in all honesty.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: Irish villain on October 30, 2013, 11:03:44 AM
I love Albrighton. How many points did he win us in the Houllier season? Before Bent arrived he was almost our main threat that season and he did ok under TSM too. The poor chap lost a lot of confidence that second season and I have always hoped he would get it back because he is a winger that carries a goal threat and boy do we need non-Benteke goal threats right now.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: pauliewalnuts on October 30, 2013, 11:24:53 AM
It is a vicious circle situation for him here.

He desperately needs to prove match fitness, but he can't do that without playing matches. He isn't going to get to play matches without that fitness.

He's got a contract winding down to the end, so without sending him out on loan, it is very difficult to judge whether he's worth holding on to. If he was to be forced to spend the next six months sitting on the bench and getting five or ten minutes every now and then, that would almost certainly not be enough to prove he's worth keeping.

To me, this loan makes absolutely perfect sense.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: PaulWinch again on October 30, 2013, 12:51:04 PM
It is a vicious circle situation for him here.

He desperately needs to prove match fitness, but he can't do that without playing matches. He isn't going to get to play matches without that fitness.

He's got a contract winding down to the end, so without sending him out on loan, it is very difficult to judge whether he's worth holding on to. If he was to be forced to spend the next six months sitting on the bench and getting five or ten minutes every now and then, that would almost certainly not be enough to prove he's worth keeping.

To me, this loan makes absolutely perfect sense.

I agree and the same applies to Gardner, he's spent the best part of 14 months injured. Once he's fit he really needs to go out on loan or it's going to be hard to him to earn a new deal.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on October 30, 2013, 01:28:02 PM
Maybe we're finally realising how to use the loan system effectively, long overdue!
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on October 30, 2013, 04:29:13 PM
Confirmed on the O/S

Quote
Marc Albrighton has joined Wigan Athletic on a one-month loan deal.

The Tamworth-born winger will link up with Owen Coyle's side on a short-term arrangement.

Albrighton could make his debut in Wigan's Championship clash against Queens Park Rangers at the DW Stadium tonight.

"I've grown up supporting Villa," he said.

"They're always going to be my club and to play for them in the Premier League is fantastic.

"From the first day the fans have always been great with me and there are so many good people at the club who have helped me from when I first came to the club as a kid.

"The manager says I'm still very much in his plans and to come to Wigan to get some games under my belt and enjoy myself which will hopefully help to get back into the team.

"I can't thank the club enough for everything they have done for me in developing me as a player and giving me this opportunity to come to Wigan and gain some much-needed game time is perfect right now.

"I aim to make the most of the opportunity."

http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~3516667,00.html
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: Malandro on October 30, 2013, 06:38:07 PM
be good for him to get a bit of confidence, there is a decent player in there
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: Dave Clark Five on October 30, 2013, 07:01:20 PM
He is one of those players who I think it would be unwise to sell just yet. He has shown he can do it in his early days so, hopefully, the spell at Wigan in a totally different set up may shake something out of him.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: dekko on October 30, 2013, 09:55:15 PM
He got 15 minutes in the match against QPR tonight, didn't really have a chance to get into the game.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: JJ-AV on October 30, 2013, 10:30:13 PM
Glad he's going to get games, but anyone know why Wigan wanted him?

McClean and McManaman are already there. They have Powell on loan as an attacking midfielder too.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: mrastonvilla on October 30, 2013, 10:34:58 PM
Glad he's going to get games, but anyone know why Wigan wanted him?

McClean and McManaman are already there. They have Powell on loan as an attacking midfielder too.

Coyle said that they wanted an extra midfield player whilst Maloney is out injured
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on October 31, 2013, 08:46:56 AM
Good luck Marc. I hope the lad tears up the Championship.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: eamonn on October 31, 2013, 11:54:52 AM
Was thinking the same re already having McLean and McManaman on their books.

Great quotes from Marc. He's a good kid.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: Matt Collins on November 01, 2013, 08:33:14 AM
Ironic that McLean (already benched for Wigan) and albrighton are at the same club. Really hope Marc recovers his form but I suspect they're both destined to be on the downward trajectory other flash in the pan direct young wingers have had.

Not sure who the next one will be, but it could be someone like mcmanaman, or sterling.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: Ron Manager on November 01, 2013, 09:42:49 AM
Well,Marc Albrighton is a winger not a midfielder/winger. Therefore Lambert's not interested no matter how well he does at Wigan.Even if he recovers the excellent form he showed under Houllier he will be on his bike when the contract runs out.

I would hope he goes somewhere where being a winger is appreciated by the manager.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 01, 2013, 11:16:59 AM
Glad he's going to get games, but anyone know why Wigan wanted him?

McClean and McManaman are already there. They have Powell on loan as an attacking midfielder too.

They're playing Nick Powell as a second striker, McManaman hasn't actually started many games this season.

Coyle is a good manager for advancing young players, Wilshere and Sturridge both came on a treat when they were on loan at Bolton so maybe Marc can be saved yet.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 01, 2013, 11:17:51 AM
Well,Marc Albrighton is a winger not a midfielder/winger. Therefore Lambert's not interested no matter how well he does at Wigan.Even if he recovers the excellent form he showed under Houllier he will be on his bike when the contract runs out.

I would hope he goes somewhere where being a winger is appreciated by the manager.

You do realise he did actually start a few games first half of last season so clear Lambert did see something in him.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: eastie on November 01, 2013, 11:25:07 AM
Well,Marc Albrighton is a winger not a midfielder/winger. Therefore Lambert's not interested no matter how well he does at Wigan.Even if he recovers the excellent form he showed under Houllier he will be on his bike when the contract runs out.

I would hope he goes somewhere where being a winger is appreciated by the manager.

You do realise he did actually start a few games first half of last season so clear Lambert did see something in him.

Maybe he saw him as a supply line for bent but both were quickly out of the team.
I think Marc needs to get back to the form he showed under houllier but we are playing a very different system now and  sadly I doubt lambert will change to include an out an out winger.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: Matt Collins on November 03, 2013, 05:24:04 PM
If Albrighton was playing as well as he did when he first broke into the team he'd have been given a chance. He hasn't. He's not looked a premier league player for quite a long while. Would be great if he can get that back, but I'll be very pleasantly surprised.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: eastie on November 03, 2013, 05:32:28 PM
If Albrighton was playing as well as he did when he first broke into the team he'd have been given a chance. He hasn't. He's not looked a premier league player for quite a long while. Would be great if he can get that back, but I'll be very pleasantly surprised.

Did he play yesterday ? Not checked.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: paulcomben on November 03, 2013, 05:39:44 PM
If Albrighton was playing as well as he did when he first broke into the team he'd have been given a chance. He hasn't. He's not looked a premier league player for quite a long while. Would be great if he can get that back, but I'll be very pleasantly surprised.

Did he play yesterday ? Not checked.


59th minute sub for Jordi Gomez after the scoring had finished in a Wigan home 2-1 win.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: eastie on November 03, 2013, 05:41:24 PM
If Albrighton was playing as well as he did when he first broke into the team he'd have been given a chance. He hasn't. He's not looked a premier league player for quite a long while. Would be great if he can get that back, but I'll be very pleasantly surprised.

Did he play yesterday ? Not checked.


59th minute sub for Jordi Gomez after the scoring had finished in a Wigan home 2-1 win.
Cheers, at least he's getting some action then.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: dekko on November 03, 2013, 06:14:35 PM
This week Wigan are off to the deepest depths of the russian steppe to play the pet team of a some chechen mafia guy (probably).

I'm not sure how the loan rules work - is Albrighton eligible to play in european games?
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: timeoutbigbar on November 03, 2013, 07:39:04 PM
This week Wigan are off to the deepest depths of the russian steppe to play the pet team of a some chechen mafia guy (probably).

I'm not sure how the loan rules work - is Albrighton eligible to play in european games?

Yes, he isn't cup tied.  I can't see that we would have put a restriction on playing in Europe in the loan agreement.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: paulcomben on November 03, 2013, 08:49:06 PM
This week Wigan are off to the deepest depths of the russian steppe to play the pet team of a some chechen mafia guy (probably).

I'm not sure how the loan rules work - is Albrighton eligible to play in european games?

Yes, he isn't cup tied.  I can't see that we would have put a restriction on playing in Europe in the loan agreement.

Ironically then, when they all look back in retirement, Albrighton will have played more European games than any of his Academy peers. One.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 03, 2013, 08:55:37 PM
This week Wigan are off to the deepest depths of the russian steppe to play the pet team of a some chechen mafia guy (probably).

I'm not sure how the loan rules work - is Albrighton eligible to play in european games?

Yes, he isn't cup tied.  I can't see that we would have put a restriction on playing in Europe in the loan agreement.

Ironically then, when they all look back in retirement, Albrighton will have played more European games than any of his Academy peers. One.

You sure about that?
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: paulcomben on November 03, 2013, 09:30:47 PM
This week Wigan are off to the deepest depths of the russian steppe to play the pet team of a some chechen mafia guy (probably).

I'm not sure how the loan rules work - is Albrighton eligible to play in european games?

Yes, he isn't cup tied.  I can't see that we would have put a restriction on playing in Europe in the loan agreement.

Ironically then, when they all look back in retirement, Albrighton will have played more European games than any of his Academy peers. One.

You sure about that?


Not really. Just trying wit as a subsitute for being the supporter of a dominant football club.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: LeeB on November 04, 2013, 10:14:48 AM
This week Wigan are off to the deepest depths of the russian steppe to play the pet team of a some chechen mafia guy (probably).

I'm not sure how the loan rules work - is Albrighton eligible to play in european games?

Yes, he isn't cup tied.  I can't see that we would have put a restriction on playing in Europe in the loan agreement.

Ironically then, when they all look back in retirement, Albrighton will have played more European games than any of his Academy peers. One.

You sure about that?


Not really. Just trying wit as a subsitute for being the supporter of a dominant football club.

He played a couple for us didn't he? Moscow and Vienna?
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 04, 2013, 10:25:10 AM
This week Wigan are off to the deepest depths of the russian steppe to play the pet team of a some chechen mafia guy (probably).

I'm not sure how the loan rules work - is Albrighton eligible to play in european games?

Yes, he isn't cup tied.  I can't see that we would have put a restriction on playing in Europe in the loan agreement.

You have to register your European squad at about the end of August, so he won't be eligible. If he's still there in January, and they're still in Europe, you are allowed to change one or two players.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 04, 2013, 01:07:50 PM
This week Wigan are off to the deepest depths of the russian steppe to play the pet team of a some chechen mafia guy (probably).

I'm not sure how the loan rules work - is Albrighton eligible to play in european games?

Yes, he isn't cup tied.  I can't see that we would have put a restriction on playing in Europe in the loan agreement.

Ironically then, when they all look back in retirement, Albrighton will have played more European games than any of his Academy peers. One.

You sure about that?


Not really. Just trying wit as a subsitute for being the supporter of a dominant football club.

He played a couple for us didn't he? Moscow and Vienna?

Weimann has at least one, as he got injured away in Vienna, in that horrible coin-throwing incident.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 04, 2013, 07:30:15 PM
He made his full debut for us in the infamous Moscow game alongside a few others didn't he?
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: Triggy on November 10, 2013, 08:17:02 PM
Watched him play today against my local side the "Mighty Yeovil!"
Played 70mins got a lot of the ball, took players on and his crosses were spot on too. There was of course the typical yellow card picked up for a needless foul on the halfway line after he lost possession.
But he must have looked around today and thought "What the hell am I doing here?!"
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: olaftab on November 10, 2013, 09:02:28 PM
But he must have looked around today and thought "What the hell am I doing here?!"
Well he can think that if he likes or he can accept his current status, get his head down and work on his game to an extent that we want him back ASAP.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: Monty on November 10, 2013, 09:07:47 PM
I thought he played well against Spurs, every bit as well as Tonev has at any point this season, and he's only a couple of months older than Tonev as well. I'd rather have seen Albrighton on the bench than Johnson, Robinson or Bowery (the first two on experience, Bowery because I'm still not sold on him).
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: OCD on November 10, 2013, 09:26:31 PM
Having a run of games should help him though, especially with the injury record he's had in the last couple of years. Hopefully he can find his old form (which he seemed to do against Spurs), stay fit and genuinely force his way into contention.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: eamonn on November 29, 2013, 01:01:12 PM
Quote

Aston Villa boss Paul Lambert has rocked Wigan Athletic by recalling winger Marc Albrighton from his loan spell.

Lambert has several injuries in his small squad and wants Albrighton to return as cover for the heavy programme for the rest of the year.

Albrighton caught the eye at Wigan and manager Owen Coyle was hoping to keep him as his side faces an even busier schedule.

Coyle said: "We'd hoped to extend his loan until a minimum of January. He's been a great lad, I can't speak highly enough of him, so much so that he actually came in and trained today even though he was leaving - that's how much he enjoyed being part of the group."
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: paul_e on November 29, 2013, 01:04:47 PM
I hope he plays seeing as he's been recalled then, he really needs the game time.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: Chris Smith on November 29, 2013, 01:11:16 PM
I hope he plays seeing as he's been recalled then, he really needs the game time.

I don't. Might be a useful sub though.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: supertom on November 29, 2013, 02:00:38 PM
I hope he plays seeing as he's been recalled then, he really needs the game time.

I don't. Might be a useful sub though.
Certainly better than having Herd or Bowery on the bench. If Andy or Gabby are struggling, he could come on and provide some crosses for the big man/men.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: PaulWinch again on November 29, 2013, 02:04:31 PM
He's more useful than Bowery.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: garyshawsknee on November 29, 2013, 02:15:12 PM
Yeah, wouldn't be surprised if we cut our losses with Bowery,not that it was a big gamble mind.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: not3bad on November 29, 2013, 02:19:49 PM
Wouldn't be surprised if Albrigton goes back on loan once the fixtures around December/early January are out of the way.  Would be good if he got some gametime while he was back.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: Irish villain on November 30, 2013, 04:01:20 PM
Yeah, wouldn't be surprised if we cut our losses with Bowery,not that it was a big gamble mind.

Bowery is awful. He is out of his depth, that turn against Cardiff when he should have had the ability to bring it on with his right foot was the last straw for me.
Title: Re: Albrighton set to join wigan on loan.
Post by: junxs on November 30, 2013, 05:57:32 PM
Thought he did very well today, put a lot of dangerous crosses in.
Much rather have him in the team than Tonev or Weimann at the moment.
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