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Heroes & Villains => Villa Memories => Topic started by: Weedy on October 01, 2013, 05:07:10 PM
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At first glance this is just confirmation that 'Noses are shudderingly ugly -even in the '70s- note the guy bottom right on a day release from Middlefield.
However, look closely and you'll see an interloper has infiltrated their ranks and is trying to look mean and moody.
Anyone recognise themselves or know who it was ?
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Looking at the face on the bloke behind him I'd be surprised if that brave villa soul was ever seen again :o
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That must of been the Witton End where the away fans went in those days. It's not St Andrew's judging by the claret crush barriers.
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The colour of the barriers would indicate that it was taken at our place, and while there are many brickbats we can throw at the rags, when it comes to asthetic appearance, in my experience, we are on rather dodgy ground.
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West Ham fan? Burnley?
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West Ham fan? Burnley?
It's not the Witton, it didn't have crash barriers or a front fence like that.
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I believe the Witton End just had a low wall at the front. That doesn't seem like a normal away crowd and it isn't either of their terraced sewers. The plot sickens.
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you will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy......We must be cautious."
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Wasn't that photograph used on the cover of all Blues' home programmes in the 76/77 season?
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Wasn't that photograph used on the cover of all Blues' home programmes in the 76/77 season?
And how, may I ask, would you know?
Ps hows your kitchen?
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I'm guessing it's the Witton End - September 1976 with a rogue Villa fan will has obviously lost the will to live standing in there with them.
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Wasn't that photograph used on the cover of all Blues' home programmes in the 76/77 season?
And how, may I ask, would you know?
Ps hows your kitchen?
Don't ask
here's a picture of the Blues v Cov prgramme from the same season
http://www.browse-a-while.com/football%20programme%20bcfc%20v%20ccfc%20050377.jpg
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The Witton had crush barriers that were circular in cross section. Those in the Lower North Stand were rectangular, like those in the original picture, but the terrace seems to go back too far.
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Not sure if this helps.
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It can't be the Lower North Stand as that only opened in August 1977.
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Looking at the face on the bloke behind him I'd be surprised if that brave villa soul was ever seen again :o
He'll be alright, it's only Cuddles' dad!
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Why do they all look like Peter Sutcliffe or Jimmy Nicholl?
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Maybe Bramall Lane ? Maybe The Victoria Ground ?
Maybe somebody could blow up the picture and see if they can identify a programme ?
Maybe it is from their FA Cup run in the mid 1970s ?
Knocked out in extra time of a semi final replay by Fulham with the very last kick of the game. ;D
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What is a young Michael Palin doing there behind the single balloon? Is he rehearsing the 'yes we are all individuals..." scene?
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Not West Ham away of that season as they started using this cover for the match versus Coventry which was before West Ham.
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Reading through our home programmes for that season, it is almost certain that this picture was taken at our fixture versus Blues on 18 Sept 1976. New rectangular cross-section crush barriers had been installed. The terrace was still known as the Witton End, even though, by the end of the season, the new North Stand terrace had taken shape with the Upper tier in construction behind it.
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I'm intrigued by this picture. Who is the lad with the Villa scarf? Was he/is he a Villa fan with a reckless disregard for his own safety, and did he survive this remarkable display of defiance? Or was he, dare I venture to say, a nose who nicked a Villa scarf and is bearing it on his wrist as a trophy? The fact that he's standing on his own makes me thing he is/was one of us.
Note, there's a lad right at the front who seems to be reading what was probably the match programme. I've tried enlarging the photo but even with the aid of a magnifier I can't really make it out.
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I'm intrigued by this picture. Who is the lad with the Villa scarf? Was he/is he a Villa fan with a reckless disregard for his own safety, and did he survive this remarkable display of defiance? Or was he, dare I venture to say, a nose who nicked a Villa scarf and is bearing it on his wrist as a trophy? The fact that he's standing on his own makes me thing he is/was one of us.
Note, there's a lad right at the front who seems to be reading what was probably the match programme. I've tried enlarging the photo but even with the aid of a magnifier I can't really make it out.
Try this:
(http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/s532/villajk/5c73913ee7ebec04e84150b5c1090fcf_zps384159d8.jpg)
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I reckon the youth with the Villa scarf is with the bloke to his left and the latter's Dad, who looks like Paddy from Emmerdale Farm with hair. They told him that he would be alright with them and are now trying to disown him.
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Despite this being at the time when football violence was at its worst, the Witton End was rarely segregated and violence in there was rare.
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Looking again at the programme, the three who can be seen holding it do not seem to hold up an identical match of the programme from the match that I suggested it was.
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Wasn't the lad with the Villa scarf in The Warriors?
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A few of the older generation have gone for the classic weekend button up shirt, trousers and jacket combo. Ideal for both the game on the Saturday and church on the Sunday.
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Looks like a young Robbie Savage a few rows back, holding up something that is around his neck.
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Wasn't the lad with the Villa scarf in The Warriors?
He's a Witton Warrior
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I'm intrigued by this picture. Who is the lad with the Villa scarf? Was he/is he a Villa fan with a reckless disregard for his own safety, and did he survive this remarkable display of defiance? Or was he, dare I venture to say, a nose who nicked a Villa scarf and is bearing it on his wrist as a trophy? The fact that he's standing on his own makes me thing he is/was one of us.
Note, there's a lad right at the front who seems to be reading what was probably the match programme. I've tried enlarging the photo but even with the aid of a magnifier I can't really make it out.
Try this:
(http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/s532/villajk/5c73913ee7ebec04e84150b5c1090fcf_zps384159d8.jpg)
Interesting to note who was listed as no 7 for the noses that day.
One or two half decent players there for them. How they must be wishing for something like that nowadays.
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If I remember correctly didn't fans at that that time collect by force, other teams scarfs and it became something of a fashion trend to wear them tied to the wrist, as a form of souvenir?
I do remember traveling with some local mates from Aston ( Yank ) with the Villa late 60's till about middle 70's and man, it was hairy sometimes!
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If I remember correctly didn't fans at that that time collect by force, other teams scarfs and it became something of a fashion trend to wear them tied to the wrist, as a form of souvenir?
I do remember traveling with some local mates from Aston ( Yank ) with the Villa late 60's till about middle 70's and man, it was hairy sometimes!
I got my scarf nicked after the 1970 LCSF at Old Trafford. Bastards!
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I'm intrigued by this picture. Who is the lad with the Villa scarf? Was he/is he a Villa fan with a reckless disregard for his own safety, and did he survive this remarkable display of defiance? Or was he, dare I venture to say, a nose who nicked a Villa scarf and is bearing it on his wrist as a trophy? The fact that he's standing on his own makes me thing he is/was one of us.
Note, there's a lad right at the front who seems to be reading what was probably the match programme. I've tried enlarging the photo but even with the aid of a magnifier I can't really make it out.
Try this:
(http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/s532/villajk/5c73913ee7ebec04e84150b5c1090fcf_zps384159d8.jpg)
Interesting to note who was listed as no 7 for the noses that day.
One or two half decent players there for them. How they must be wishing for something like that nowadays.
Numbers seven, eight and nine. Two European Cup winning goalscorers and a double European Cup winner. I think they replaced them with Alan Ainscow, Keith Bertschin and Neil Whatmore.
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Maybe Bramall Lane ? Maybe The Victoria Ground ?
Maybe somebody could blow up the picture and see if they can identify a programme ?
Maybe it is from their FA Cup run in the mid 1970s ?
Knocked out in extra time of a semi final replay by Fulham with the very last kick of the game. ;D
Ha, my mates old man used to go on a rant at the mention of that game, made worse for him by me pissing myself laughing every time.
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Maybe Bramall Lane ? Maybe The Victoria Ground ?
Maybe somebody could blow up the picture and see if they can identify a programme ?
Maybe it is from their FA Cup run in the mid 1970s ?
Knocked out in extra time of a semi final replay by Fulham with the very last kick of the game. ;D
Ha, my mates old man used to go on a rant at the mention of that game, made worse for him by me pissing myself laughing every time.
If I remember right, we played Carlisle at home that night. I was in the Royal Exchange at Aston Cross after the match, hearing the news filtering through.
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I believe the Witton End just had a low wall at the front. That doesn't seem like a normal away crowd and it isn't either of their terraced sewers. The plot sickens.
The old Witton's terraces finished a couple of feet or so below ground level, there was a wall which protruded no more than a couple of inches above the cinder track with iron railings a couple of feet tall set on top.
Before 1966 all 4 sides of the ground were like this.
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Maybe Bramall Lane ? Maybe The Victoria Ground ?
Maybe somebody could blow up the picture and see if they can identify a programme ?
Maybe it is from their FA Cup run in the mid 1970s ?
Knocked out in extra time of a semi final replay by Fulham with the very last kick of the game. ;D
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Ha, my mates old man used to go on a rant at the mention of that game, made worse for him by me pissing myself laughing every time.
My old man was at that game and it is the only blues related thing that sets him off on a rant. I think he has been to three games since.
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Maybe Bramall Lane ? Maybe The Victoria Ground ?
Maybe somebody could blow up the picture and see if they can identify a programme ?
Maybe it is from their FA Cup run in the mid 1970s ?
Knocked out in extra time of a semi final replay by Fulham with the very last kick of the game. ;D
Ha, my mates old man used to go on a rant at the mention of that game, made worse for him by me pissing myself laughing every time.
If I remember right, we played Carlisle at home that night. I was in the Royal Exchange at Aston Cross after the match, hearing the news filtering through.
DCF, I thought it was a 2-0 home win v Cardiff ( who had Willie Anderson in their ranks). I have a memory of much mirth on the bus back to Pheasey with the obligatory bloke with a pocket radio relaying events at Maine Rd.
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Maybe Bramall Lane ? Maybe The Victoria Ground ?
Maybe somebody could blow up the picture and see if they can identify a programme ?
Maybe it is from their FA Cup run in the mid 1970s ?
Knocked out in extra time of a semi final replay by Fulham with the very last kick of the game. ;D
Ha, my mates old man used to go on a rant at the mention of that game, made worse for him by me pissing myself laughing every time.
If I remember right, we played Carlisle at home that night. I was in the Royal Exchange at Aston Cross after the match, hearing the news filtering through.
DCF, I thought it was a 2-0 home win v Cardiff ( who had Willie Anderson in their ranks). I have a memory of much mirth on the bus back to Pheasey with the obligatory bloke with a pocket radio relaying events at Maine Rd.
The pocket radio! These were often battered and bruised, especially when carried by a loon who used them as a means to strike up conversations. 'Halifax have scored, mate!'
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That Villa fan must have balls of steel.
He's also probably the only person in that photograph capable of reading and writing.
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I'm intrigued by this picture. Who is the lad with the Villa scarf? Was he/is he a Villa fan with a reckless disregard for his own safety, and did he survive this remarkable display of defiance? Or was he, dare I venture to say, a nose who nicked a Villa scarf and is bearing it on his wrist as a trophy? The fact that he's standing on his own makes me thing he is/was one of us.
Note, there's a lad right at the front who seems to be reading what was probably the match programme. I've tried enlarging the photo but even with the aid of a magnifier I can't really make it out.
Try this:
(http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/s532/villajk/5c73913ee7ebec04e84150b5c1090fcf_zps384159d8.jpg)
Interesting to note who was listed as no 7 for the noses that day.
One or two half decent players there for them. How they must be wishing for something like that nowadays.
Numbers seven, eight and nine. Two European Cup winning goalscorers and a double European Cup winner. I think they replaced them with Alan Ainscow, Keith Bertschin and Neil Whatmore.
That typeface used for Teamcheck and Scorecheck there, I seem to remember that being used a lot by Villa in the 70s.
I also remember that font formed the basis of my "bored at school" football doodles for a good five years.
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Yes it's very '70's isn't it?
I see the Villa Voucher has been cut out of the programme too, remember when someone had the bright idea to photocopy them?
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The programme is from the game v Blues on September 17, 1975 at VP. We won 2-1.
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The programme is from the game v Blues on September 17, 1975 at VP. We won 2-1.
The highlights of that game are on one of the DVD's aren't they? Which reminds me to get all my Villa DVD's back off my cousin, who has had them for over a year.