Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: saunders_heroes on August 02, 2013, 01:59:40 PM
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According to a tweet earlier from Steve Stride, Curcic can be found living rough in Belgrade.
I remember seeing a YouTube video of him dancing and singing in the middle of a busy road, so it's obvious he has some kind of mental illness. It's a shame that its come to this.
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One would hope that the former player's association would be trying to assist him in some way.
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The last I heard of him was a few years back. Apparently, after appearing on his home countries version of Big Brother, he was planning to start his own religious cult where he fathered all the women's babies. Let's hope he can be helped and hasn't passed the point of no return. I read the other day that Kenny Samson was living rough too and had gone missing. Any news on him yet?
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Samson missing was in the Sun? I was listening to Radio 5 y-day and he's not missing he goes to a local centre regularly where they look after him, still not doing great though.
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Barking mad he was. Had a lot of ability and could have played at the highest level but his career just imploded when he joined us. All his own doing too. You know he's only 41 too. If he'd have looked after himself and worked hard he could have still been playing as recent as 4-5 years ago, maybe more.
It seems weird too that often players who are naturally gifted seemed to be hampered by mental problems, or just an inability to really put the work in too. Sometimes both.
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Didn't he take up a career in 'adult' films?
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Great debut at home to Derby. Played well in patches but never ever lived up to potential. I thought he would bring even more out of Savo but it didn't happen.
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I had lunch with him once as a friend knew him well. He was a lovely bloke, but mad as a box of frogs. He also hated playing football and only did as he could make money for his family back home. I wish him well as he was a genuinely nice fella.
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I remember going to an away game not long after he signed and listening to one of the more knowledgable Radio 5 blokes (Ingham)? saying he was the best signing by any club that summer.
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Sorry to hear this. Mental illness is always such a trajedy.
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Yes, I remember that report on R5 Percy, and Curcic was some player when his mind was on the job. I suppose you could say the same about Stanloi and Bald Stevie.
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I remember just how excited I was when he signed, probably more so than any other player in fact. It really seemed like he was the missing-piece, joining what was a really good team at that point.
When you look back, you do have to feel for Sir Brian His two big signings (Curcic and Collymore) both really failed to live up to their ability, and were ultimately (probably) largely accountable for his downfall as Villa manager.
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Had no idea Curcic had fallen so low. Sad to hear.
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I has Curcic 25 on that white with claret collar Ast shirt
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Hopefully he gets help soon and Sansom too.
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I remember he had very thin spindly legs that you thought would snap under a harsh tackle
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As with several players over the years, I thought he was going to be the "final piece of the jigsaw" in terms of making us the team to beat.
It's when I hear stories about ex-players and their woes that I feel that the current crop (Will we soon see the first £100m transfer? Rooney on £250k a week? etc) are a heartless and miserable bunch. There's so much they could do to look after their own.
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It is always extremely sad to hear of anyone who is mentally ill and down on their luck. My deeper sympathies however are with those who never had a chance in life, not those who have had evrything and thrown it away.
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I had lunch with him once as a friend knew him well. He was a lovely bloke, but mad as a box of frogs. He also hated playing football and only did as he could make money for his family back home. I wish him well as he was a genuinely nice fella.
There are a few players like. I would give my right arm for just one game at Villa Park. Imagine having all that talent, breaking through being in the top .00001% of the world's footballers and just not really liking it.
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As with several players over the years, I thought he was going to be the "final piece of the jigsaw" in terms of making us the team to beat.
It's when I hear stories about ex-players and their woes that I feel that the current crop (Will we soon see the first £100m transfer? Rooney on £250k a week? etc) are a heartless and miserable bunch. There's so much they could do to look after their own.
I was talking about this only last night. Why not a percentage of a player's salary going into a fund for such cases. The Rooneys of this world wouldn't even notice it. Players doing their bit for their colleagues is an admirable cause.
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I remember that first game against Derby & being in awe at how he simply drifted past players. Immensely talented but sadly he never looked like fitting in after that, his mid-season nose job being a good example of his state of mind.
Hope, with help, he's able to sort himself out.
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I was in Montenegro a couple of years ago and some Serbs mentioned his problems then. It seemed to have been common knowledge over there. They also said that all his money had long gone.
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As with several players over the years, I thought he was going to be the "final piece of the jigsaw" in terms of making us the team to beat.
It's when I hear stories about ex-players and their woes that I feel that the current crop (Will we soon see the first £100m transfer? Rooney on £250k a week? etc) are a heartless and miserable bunch. There's so much they could do to look after their own.
I was talking about this only last night. Why not a percentage of a player's salary going into a fund for such cases. The Rooneys of this world wouldn't even notice it. Players doing their bit for their colleagues is an admirable cause.
If you throw in a tax break for the contributions, then it makes it a lot easier
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It is always extremely sad to hear of anyone who is mentally ill and down on their luck. My deeper sympathies however are with those who never had a chance in life, not those who have had evrything and thrown it away.
Mental illness doesn't give a shit about how much you have. Being good at football doesn't help in anyway.
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He had a massive conk (nose)....
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It is always extremely sad to hear of anyone who is mentally ill and down on their luck. Myp deeper sympathies however are with those who never had a chance in life, not those who have had evrything and thrown it away.
Mental illness doesn't give a shit about how much you have. Being good at football doesn't help in anyway.
spot on
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The difference between the sad cases of famous footballers becoming metally ill and everyday people on the street becoming mentally ill is that there is a much better chance of the well known person having his or her illness spotted early and dealt with. Money comes into it because a person with a lot of money is very rarely isolated. The vast majority of the most abandoned and vulnerable in society have become so as a result of losing a support system - family, friends, colleagues or worse still never having had one. Those are the ones on whom I focus my charitable giving and my support.
If you were to say to me that the thread raises the topic of mental illness not vagrancy or alcoholism I would reply that in my own experience and in the cases known to me personally it is chicken and egg. The one brings on the other.
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Very sad. He really did have bags of skill. The sort of player we would thrive with now
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Well this just proves that a) money, b) fame and c) talent matters very little. I have suffered from pretty severe depressing, anxiety etc and despite not having any fame, little money but shedloads of talent (seriously I'm pretty much a genius) I got myself better. Curcic, with all three, hasn't as of yet. Surely you don't have a limited amount of sympathy to use sparingly? Like cancer, see Petrov, mental illness doesn't discriminate.
I'll also disagree with the chicken and egg scenario. Whilst I'm sure some alcoholics go on to suffer from mental illness, I would say 95% of the time, the illness comes first. Then the coping mechanisms start.
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The difference between the sad cases of famous footballers becoming metally ill and everyday people on the street becoming mentally ill is that there is a much better chance of the well known person having his or her illness spotted early and dealt with. Money comes into it because a person with a lot of money is very rarely isolated. The vast majority of the most abandoned and vulnerable in society have become so as a result of losing a support system - family, friends, colleagues or worse still never having had one. Those are the ones on whom I focus my charitable giving and my support.
If you were to say to me that the thread raises the topic of mental illness not vagrancy or alcoholism I would reply that in my own experience and in the cases known to me personally it is chicken and egg. The one brings on the other.
With the greatest respect Brian, what a load of complete tosh.
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The difference between the sad cases of famous footballers becoming metally ill and everyday people on the street becoming mentally ill is that there is a much better chance of the well known person having his or her illness spotted early and dealt with. Money comes into it because a person with a lot of money is very rarely isolated. The vast majority of the most abandoned and vulnerable in society have become so as a result of losing a support system - family, friends, colleagues or worse still never having had one. Those are the ones on whom I focus my charitable giving and my support.
If you were to say to me that the thread raises the topic of mental illness not vagrancy or alcoholism I would reply that in my own experience and in the cases known to me personally it is chicken and egg. The one brings on the other.
With the greatest respect Brian, what a load of complete tosh.
A much more succinct way of saying what I said.
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I hope he get's the help he needs.
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The difference between the sad cases of famous footballers becoming metally ill and everyday people on the street becoming mentally ill is that there is a much better chance of the well known person having his or her illness spotted early and dealt with. Money comes into it because a person with a lot of money is very rarely isolated. The vast majority of the most abandoned and vulnerable in society have become so as a result of losing a support system - family, friends, colleagues or worse still never having had one. Those are the ones on whom I focus my charitable giving and my support.
If you were to say to me that the thread raises the topic of mental illness not vagrancy or alcoholism I would reply that in my own experience and in the cases known to me personally it is chicken and egg. The one brings on the other.
With the greatest respect Brian, what a load of complete tosh.
Droid II ?
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The difference between the sad cases of famous footballers becoming metally ill and everyday people on the street becoming mentally ill is that there is a much better chance of the well known person having his or her illness spotted early and dealt with. Money comes into it because a person with a lot of money is very rarely isolated. The vast majority of the most abandoned and vulnerable in society have become so as a result of losing a support system - family, friends, colleagues or worse still never having had one. Those are the ones on whom I focus my charitable giving and my support.
If you were to say to me that the thread raises the topic of mental illness not vagrancy or alcoholism I would reply that in my own experience and in the cases known to me personally it is chicken and egg. The one brings on the other.
With the greatest respect Brian, what a load of complete tosh.
Brian?
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Brian.
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Brian? Brian.
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The difference between the sad cases of famous footballers becoming metally ill and everyday people on the street becoming mentally ill is that there is a much better chance of the well known person having his or her illness spotted early and dealt with. Money comes into it because a person with a lot of money is very rarely isolated. The vast majority of the most abandoned and vulnerable in society have become so as a result of losing a support system - family, friends, colleagues or worse still never having had one. Those are the ones on whom I focus my charitable giving and my support.
If you were to say to me that the thread raises the topic of mental illness not vagrancy or alcoholism I would reply that in my own experience and in the cases known to me personally it is chicken and egg. The one brings on the other.
With the greatest respect Brian, what a load of complete tosh.
seconded
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Brian! He's not Jesus, he's a very naughty boy!
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This week the talker of tosh through the Navin R Johnson Optigrab Foundation will provide a meal for between a hundred and a hundred and fifty sufferers from mental illness of one form or another.
I leave the wise and toshfree to help the football players who have fallen on hard times.
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I seem to remember a story that someone went to Curcic's house well into a new year and found that he still had the Christmas decorations up. When asked why, he said that it reminded him of a happier time when his family were with him. I thought then that here was a lad that needed help. I'm told that he rarely left his house when playing for us.
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I seem to remember a story that someone went to Curcic's house well into a new year and found that he still had the Christmas decorations up. When asked why, he said that it reminded him of a happier time when his family were with him. I thought then that here was a lad that needed help. I'm told that he rarely left his house when playing for us.
Very sad indeed.
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Sasa Curcic is similar player to Stephen Ireland and probably better. Sad news.
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Sasa Curcic is similar player to Stephen Ireland and probably better. Sad news.
and he has a mental illness, Ireland is just a cock
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The difference between the sad cases of famous footballers becoming metally ill and everyday people on the street becoming mentally ill is that there is a much better chance of the well known person having his or her illness spotted early and dealt with. Money comes into it because a person with a lot of money is very rarely isolated.
It didn't help Gary Speed.
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Sasa Curcic is similar player to Stephen Ireland and probably better. Sad news.
and he has a mental illness, Ireland is just a cock
Will you give Ireland any sympathy in years to come if it's revealed he is mentally ill?
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He seems to be enjoying himself.
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Can still pull then...yeah, pull a trailer.