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Title: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on January 30, 2013, 05:31:37 PM
Saturday 2.2.13 KO 3pm

Them more Us less
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on January 30, 2013, 05:33:47 PM
Honestly think we will draw (or be battered)
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Fergal on January 30, 2013, 05:33:55 PM
Can't see anything other than a hammering, it's just a case of how many we get beaten by.  Oh yea and when we have our 25 mins of decent football so we can say 'at least we went again for a bit'...
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: citizenDJ on January 30, 2013, 05:36:03 PM
I think they'll beat us comfortably. Of course, at the moment I think anyone will beat us comfortably. But I especially think Everton will beat us comfortably.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on January 30, 2013, 05:39:55 PM
Will wait until 11pm tomorrow and see who our 3 new players are before a prediction.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SW9-VILLA on January 30, 2013, 05:39:58 PM
The thought of it just depresses me. Just the idea of Villa in general.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on January 30, 2013, 05:41:12 PM
Isn't this the most played fixture ever ?

Who knows when we will play them again,in a cup maybe?

3-0 them

Thanks Randy
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 30, 2013, 05:42:15 PM
Everton 176,368,294
Aston Villa -3
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: montague on January 30, 2013, 05:43:23 PM
We will score first but lose 4-1.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on January 30, 2013, 05:50:01 PM
2-1 Villa win, to answer our critics in the best way possible.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on January 30, 2013, 05:55:35 PM
3-0     covered in Toffee ;(
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on January 30, 2013, 05:57:36 PM
2-1 Villa win, to answer our critics in the best way possible.

3-0 Everton.  "Nothing's changed, there are still a few teams down there, and no I didn't need to sign any players".
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on January 30, 2013, 06:01:53 PM
2-1 Villa win, to answer our critics in the best way possible.

3-0 Everton.  "Nothing's changed, there are still a few teams down there, and no I didn't need to sign any players".

I am pinning my hopes on the law of averages. I realise this is not a rational position, but there it is.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on January 30, 2013, 06:02:58 PM

Battered. With an inevitable 20-25 minute purple patch whilst trailing
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: neo_Villan on January 30, 2013, 06:03:07 PM
This is the sort of game that Everton usually fuck up in. So I'll go for 1-0 to us with them missing a hatful of chances.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: AVFCRob on January 30, 2013, 06:03:59 PM
This could get messy. 4-0 Everton - mimimum.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 30, 2013, 06:15:21 PM
1-1 although I can see us winning 2-1.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on January 30, 2013, 06:24:05 PM
Fellaini against Bannan in midfield should be an interesting contest. Not. After playing us off the park back in August Phil Neville said he couldn't believe how poor we were. He wasn't wrong and we aren't any better now. Routine win for them possibly by 3 or 4
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dr_Fegg on January 30, 2013, 07:00:50 PM
Lambert will start with the same formation we finished with last night and we'll attack like mad for 20 mins and score 1.

Everton will then take to the pitch and start the game and we'll lose by 3 or 4.

Fellani V Bannan - The most laughable match up ever  ;D

Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on January 30, 2013, 07:02:07 PM
0-3 sylla hat trick!
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on January 30, 2013, 07:03:13 PM
I think the players know they're in a dogfight now. I believe they will give it plenty. Certainly if Bent isn't playing.

Gabby to score an important goal.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: maigrait on January 30, 2013, 07:05:00 PM
Ashley Young to score an injury time winner for us again.... oh wait....
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on January 30, 2013, 07:05:48 PM
Don't. Do. It...
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on January 30, 2013, 07:07:38 PM
Stick Delph in for Bannan and start as we finished last night.

We might just surprise them.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on January 30, 2013, 07:13:21 PM
No chance.

0-3
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TopDeck113 on January 30, 2013, 07:15:09 PM
All I'm really hoping is that between now and the season's inevitable conclusion there aren't too many more humilations.  The relegation itself will be a bitter enough pill to swallow.

I'm going with an Everton fan and am expecting to have his sympathy after it has finished 3-1 to them.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: levico on January 30, 2013, 07:19:45 PM
No idea except we'll lose by at least three clear goals. I'm beginning to think that the quicker we get out of this league, the better. May be saying the same thing next year.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on January 30, 2013, 07:19:57 PM
Villa win.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on January 30, 2013, 07:20:09 PM
I'm going with an Everton fan and am expecting to have his sympathy after it has finished 3-1 to them.

Just punch him in the cock.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brian green on January 30, 2013, 07:27:00 PM
5-1 Everton   I am a realist these days.   My dreams have all been blown away.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: MarkM on January 30, 2013, 07:32:44 PM
3-1 Everton
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on January 30, 2013, 07:33:44 PM
Everton to retire on their stool, murmuring `no mas, no mas'
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: l_mckay on January 30, 2013, 07:34:54 PM
3-0 to them
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on January 30, 2013, 07:36:59 PM
4-1 to Everton.
Lambert to say (in his usual Brundlefly static) that we were 'unlucky' and that 'we'll dig ourselves out of this hole, there are encouraging signs there.'
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Uknowthescore on January 30, 2013, 07:52:57 PM
1 0 up at half time then fall to pieces second half conceding 3
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brazilian Villain on January 30, 2013, 07:54:13 PM
Everton to retire on their stool, murmuring `no mas, no mas'
Thanks, made me chuckle that.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Salsa Party Animal on January 30, 2013, 07:56:32 PM
1-0 win with new French player scoring a 40 yard screamer and Everton were left wimpering after facing so many tackles and become a cult player for Aston Villa. He then say we will qualify for UEFA Cup in interview.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: russon on January 30, 2013, 08:01:47 PM
heavy defeat and their fans droning on with the one solitary song they ever sing ' Everton, Everton, Everton' to the tune of Here We Go
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on January 30, 2013, 08:10:00 PM
Oh, sod it. Please be the new, improved 'Orange Dot'. If it doesn't work you can all blame me for our demise:

Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on January 30, 2013, 08:26:37 PM
heavy defeat and their fans droning on with the one solitary song they ever sing ' Everton, Everton, Everton' to the tune of Here We Go

Do you know yer historeeee
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: wolfman999 on January 30, 2013, 08:35:58 PM
I'm shaking like a shitting dog at the prospect.  We could get more battered than a piece of cod at the local chippy, but let's be a bit more positive ... 4-0 Everton.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Left Side on January 30, 2013, 09:02:28 PM
Not looking forward to this one, they will score more than us
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Zakk Fatt on January 30, 2013, 09:17:46 PM
We have to win it, We can win it if we play 4-4-2 attacking pressing football.  I don't think we will.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on January 30, 2013, 09:18:48 PM
I'd prefer to see 4-5-1.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on January 30, 2013, 09:27:52 PM
A thriller. 2-2.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lobsterboy on January 30, 2013, 09:28:41 PM
Them 2 Us 1

Benteke for us Baines and Jelavic who hasn't scored for 9 months or something to get the winner in Fergie time for them
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Karlos96 on January 30, 2013, 09:41:15 PM
We'll lose as usual - 4-0
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Apyadg on January 30, 2013, 09:41:46 PM
4-1 Everton, with us scoring first.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 30, 2013, 10:15:17 PM
Our record is really good at Everton, haven't lost there since March 2006.

Ends here. 3-0 Everton.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on January 30, 2013, 11:01:10 PM
In the spirit of the Hitler bunker scene from Der Untergang, here is the post-match thread in video form:

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Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: itbrvilla on January 31, 2013, 12:32:14 AM
In the spirit of the Hitler bunker scene from Der Untergang, here is the post-match thread in video form:

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Ace. Need to watch the wire.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on January 31, 2013, 12:37:35 AM
Oh, sod it. Please be the new, improved 'Orange Dot'. If it doesn't work you can all blame me for our demise:


The fanzone clip for that goal is brilliant.  Cracks me up every time.  "Look at me tan!"  Who is that bloke?
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 31, 2013, 12:38:26 AM
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 31, 2013, 12:39:36 AM
Go on then, GO ON THEN!
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: D.boy on January 31, 2013, 01:06:06 AM
Watching those clips really hammers home how far we have fallen.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dl9 on January 31, 2013, 01:14:28 AM
Got my tickets in their Joe Mercer suite, few beers, bit of grub, and hopefully a few laughs. This will all end at 3pm when we'll get battered without so much as a whimper.
Love Aston Villa but I haven't got any affinity with this set of people who are happily taking us down. Rotten from the owner right through we are in free fall. Everton 3-0 win unfortunately.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Situation on January 31, 2013, 05:31:14 AM
We could very well be bottom of the league after this game :(

Everton have a really good home record. I've tried to be so positive but recently I can't takr it anymore. I'm resigned to us losing on Saturday with other results going badly against us. Its impossible to think we could be more doomed than last season, but it looks that way now.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on January 31, 2013, 05:41:25 AM
I never felt last season we would go down. After the Bolton game my opinion was we were in trouble  but TSM would grind out enough draws to keep us up before he had to go. Probably like most people my real concerns have grown step by step from the three home games against Wigan, Southampton and Newcastle. My heart says draw, my head says defeat and my worst fears are another hiding which at the moment always seems possible.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: paulcomben on January 31, 2013, 09:18:26 AM
We could very well be bottom of the league after this game :(

Everton have a really good home record. I've tried to be so positive but recently I can't takr it anymore. I'm resigned to us losing on Saturday with other results going badly against us. Its impossible to think we could be more doomed than last season, but it looks that way now.


You mean that Arry is so influential his team would get 4 points for a win?
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Malandro on January 31, 2013, 09:29:39 AM
We could be in trouble here. Everton are after revenge after not getting into double figures on the opening day
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on January 31, 2013, 09:36:03 AM
I've lost count the number of times i've been to Woodison Park. Looking forward to it strangely although i'm not looking forward to that bloody annoying 'and if you know your history' song they play. God it's crap.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Big Dick Edwards on January 31, 2013, 09:39:05 AM
Everton draw a lot of games. Let's hope this is another one.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on January 31, 2013, 09:39:49 AM
The usual, this time a heavy one.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on January 31, 2013, 09:40:44 AM
"We don't care what the Red side say, and what the hell do we care?" Bitter Blues, defined by their hatred for their more successful rivals. Sound familiar?
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on January 31, 2013, 09:41:53 AM
"We don't care what the Red side say, and what the hell do we care?" Bitter Blues, defined by their hatred for their more successful rivals. Sound familiar?

That's the one. It's in my head already.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on January 31, 2013, 10:16:34 AM
"We don't care what the Red side say, and what the hell do we care?" Bitter Blues, defined by their hatred for their more successful rivals. Sound familiar?

That's the one. It's in my head already.

Yes but its a grand old team to play for.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Clark Five on January 31, 2013, 11:16:51 AM
I have known our fans to sing that years ago and I join in with it now, swapping 'we don't care what the city fans say or what the fuck they do, for we only know that there's gonna be a show and the Aston Villa will be there' for some of the words.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on January 31, 2013, 11:58:15 AM
Fuck it, 2-1 away win

Benteke and Gabby
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: preston28 on January 31, 2013, 12:36:29 PM
Sadly I feel we'll getr now't out of this game.  2-0 the Toffees.  >:(
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on January 31, 2013, 12:39:06 PM
A loss- a heavy loss

5-2
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: MalcolmP on January 31, 2013, 01:35:20 PM
A Chelsea repeat

Everton 8 corners Fellaini 8 goals
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Simon Ward on January 31, 2013, 04:03:54 PM
A Chelsea repeat

Everton 8 corners Fellaini 8 goals

Marked by Bannan at corners I presume!
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on January 31, 2013, 04:10:53 PM
Everton 2 Villa 6

Them: Cottee, McGrath OG

Us: Cowans, Olney 2, Platt 2, Nielsen
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on January 31, 2013, 04:18:16 PM
Everton 2 Villa 6

Them: Cottee, McGrath OG

Us: Cowans, Olney 2, Platt 2, Nielsen

Dan, Dan wake up, you're not in Kansas anymore!
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on January 31, 2013, 04:21:47 PM
Dan, Dan wake up, you're not in Kansas anymore!
Nonsense, I'm looking forward to seeing the goals again on Saint & Greavsie next weekend already.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: paulcomben on January 31, 2013, 04:25:25 PM
Guzan

Lowton Vlaar Clark Baker

Westwood Sylla

Weimann Nzogbia Agbonlahor

Benteke

1-1, if we turn up for both halves.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on January 31, 2013, 04:31:11 PM


1-1, if we turn up for both halves.

So that's 1-3 then.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villafirst on January 31, 2013, 05:36:01 PM
1-3 Sylla hat-trick!!
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: seanthevillan on January 31, 2013, 05:50:29 PM
Like every game we go into I think we could get something - its this almost senseless optimism that has only seen me join the 'we're down' club this week.

Having visions of a late Clark equaliser, but if we get anything from this game it will be a surprise, no matter how decent our record up there has been of late.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Nastylee on January 31, 2013, 07:22:15 PM
With Sylla back on Merseyside will there be a 'Surprise Surprise' or will we just be shite like usual?
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Greg N'Ash on January 31, 2013, 09:47:30 PM
well after waiting for our transfer business to conclude i'm ready for my prediction based on the quality that lambchop has bought in

4-1 hammering
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on January 31, 2013, 09:48:09 PM
3-0 to us. Dawkins hat-trick.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: exiled on the wirral! on January 31, 2013, 09:49:20 PM
Looking forward to this one despite all the carnage going on, it might be our last trip to Goodison for a while...

My heart says 1-1

My head says 0-4
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ventnor villain on January 31, 2013, 10:13:49 PM
A toss-up as to which team will finish with a higher score: Everton against us, or England against Scotland.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on February 01, 2013, 12:55:40 AM
Every corner they get will be like a penalty. If we are to stick Bannan on the post we should put Westwood on his shoulders.  We might keep it just about respectable then.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on February 01, 2013, 01:00:00 AM
It's obvious now that Lambert is going to stick with Clark alongside Vlaar.  Goodness knows who is going to be playing left back for the remainder of the season though.  Baker is not good enough on the ball and not mobile enough to play full-back, Bennett can't defend, Lichaj just isn't good enough full stop and neither is Stevens.  I wonder if he will lean towards Baker just to give us some extra height when defending set pieces.

We will probably see Sylla alongside Westwood at some point, though Saturday may be a bit soon for the lad.  The attacking four should be the ones that finished the game on Tuesday night. 
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on February 01, 2013, 01:04:47 AM
Every corner they get will be like a penalty. If we are to stick Bannan on the post we should put Westwood on his shoulders.  We might keep it just about respectable then.

Keep up, they're now referred to as a "cornalty"
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on February 01, 2013, 01:08:36 AM
Every corner they get will be like a penalty. If we are to stick Bannan on the post we should put Westwood on his shoulders.  We might keep it just about respectable then.

Keep up, they're now referred to as a "cornalty"

Hadn't seen that.  It's exactly what it is.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tuscans on February 01, 2013, 01:11:49 AM
Guzan

Lowton Vlaar Clark Baker

Westwood Sylla

Weimann Nzogbia Agbonlahor

Benteke

1-1, if we turn up for both halves.
Ill probably go with that team....but can only see a loss. Everton should have a field day on set pieces.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Zakk Fatt on February 01, 2013, 01:48:53 AM
Can we win = Yes
Can they win = Yes
If they win will they be extatic = possibly
If we win will we be extatic = yes
Can there team win = probably
Can the Villa win = possibly

Will the Villa win = are you for real!!!

Will we win = Come on you Lions!!!

Believe until it is done.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: somec on February 01, 2013, 03:06:11 AM
Only found out last night that Der Hammer Tommy Hitz now plays for Everton.

That transfer must have passed me by, has he been any good for them?
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tucson Villain on February 01, 2013, 03:34:39 AM
0-1 Villa. Start of the revival, it has got to start somewhere and soon.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ACVilla on February 01, 2013, 05:08:37 AM
Everton 0 - 3 Villa

Benteke (3)
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pbavfckuwait on February 01, 2013, 05:35:22 AM
A horrible hiding and then we will go again
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on February 01, 2013, 06:14:36 AM
I've gone for a win- based purely on the premise that we used to be a bit of a bogey team for them in recent times ( in my mind anyway). Hoping normal service can be resumed. Plus we can't keep losing forever.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on February 01, 2013, 06:17:39 AM
Just hope we don't get humiliated, hope the new lads can defend corners
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on February 01, 2013, 07:22:31 AM
1-3 win.

This will be followed by a home win against West Ham, a draw against City, and 7-0 battering at the Emerites. Followed by a further 6 straight defeats, and relegation bottom of the league.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 01, 2013, 07:26:07 AM
Play 442.

Guzan, Stevens, Dunne, Vlaar, Lowton, Charlie, Sylla, Westwood, Dawkins, Andi and Benteke.

Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on February 01, 2013, 08:21:15 AM
One toffee scented nail in our coffin. Probably in emphatic style. Everton don't score many but I think they'll have a field day against our defence.
4-1
Benteke.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on February 01, 2013, 08:22:17 AM
Play 442.

Guzan, Stevens, Dunne, Vlaar, Lowton, Charlie, Sylla, Westwood, Dawkins, Andi and Benteke.


I'd have listed the team I think should play, but it's too depressing. On paper it just looks so crap.
You're a braver man than me sir.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on February 01, 2013, 08:30:48 AM
Plus we can't keep losing forever.
See Wolves last season
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on February 01, 2013, 08:33:44 AM
Also Derby when we put 6 past them and Stan scored that cracker from the half-way line.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: frank black on February 01, 2013, 08:43:41 AM
Only found out last night that Der Hammer Tommy Hitz now plays for Everton.

That transfer must have passed me by, has he been any good for them?

No, however he will be against us....It is the law of the Sod.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Malandro on February 01, 2013, 08:53:08 AM
Probably the most organised v most disorganised teams
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 01, 2013, 08:55:52 AM
Well I shalln't be watching this as I'm away for the weekend. I hope when I see the result I'll be pleasantly shocked, but I doubt it.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on February 01, 2013, 09:16:26 AM
Villa win by one goal.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: peter w on February 01, 2013, 09:21:20 AM
The game will either be this:

Villa on top in an encouraging first half where we rip their defence a new 'un and take a deserved lead. Second half sees us pulled back in the first 5 minutes through poor marking at a corner. We go on to lose 3-1. Never in it second half and look disjointed. We resort to the Benteke hoof.

Or this:

Dreadfully slow start sees us 2 down at half-time through poor marking at a corner and the lack of confidence sees Everton adding a second. Although pushing for a third before the break it doesn't come. Second-half Villa rally and pull one back on 67mins. On 70 mins Everton score on the break. A last ditch tackle leads to a corner. Goal. After that we hoof it to Benteke.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on February 01, 2013, 09:24:26 AM
The game will either be this:

Villa on top in an encouraging first half where we rip their defence a new 'un and take a deserved lead. Second half sees us pulled back in the first 5 minutes through poor marking at a corner. We go on to lose 3-1. Never in it second half and look disjointed. We resort to the Benteke hoof.

Or this:

Dreadfully slow start sees us 2 down at half-time through poor marking at a corner and the lack of confidence sees Everton adding a second. Although pushing for a third before the break it doesn't come. Second-half Villa rally and pull one back on 67mins. On 70 mins Everton score on the break. A last ditch tackle leads to a corner. Goal. After that we hoof it to Benteke.

To quote the great philosopher Lawrence "Yogi" Berra; "its like deja vu all over again".
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 01, 2013, 09:30:29 AM
Was thinking about jumping on the boat and going over for this.  Not any more though, the club can go fuck itself.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on February 01, 2013, 09:32:32 AM
4-0 Everton, this isn't going any other way.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Simon Ward on February 01, 2013, 10:05:11 AM
I love all the positivity surrounding this game!
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dr Butler on February 01, 2013, 10:12:35 AM
sadly another hiding...

Everton 3 - Villa 0

sad times indeed.

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on February 01, 2013, 10:18:26 AM
Play 442.

Guzan, Stevens, Dunne, Vlaar, Lowton, Charlie, Sylla, Westwood, Dawkins, Andi and Benteke.



is dunne fit? 


Looks like a championship team to me
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt on February 01, 2013, 10:35:35 AM
Everton 5 Villa 0

Felliani will score all 5, from winning headers in the 6 yard box after one of their hairy arsed CB's win the first header from a corner.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: jeowje on February 01, 2013, 10:41:38 AM
If we get out of relegation now it will be by winning some games nobody expects us to...

Therefore 2-0 Villa, goal in each half.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on February 01, 2013, 10:43:58 AM
4231 for me (I've said enough times this season that it's probably boring:

Guzan
Lowton Vlaar Clark Baker
Sylla Westwood
Weimann Bannan Dawkins
Benteke

Start with the back 4 fairly flat and the 3 slightly deeper covering the midfield, take the sting out of it early on, we need to keep a clean sheet for as long as possible, a draw away at Everton would be a good result so we don't need any gung-ho 5-6 up front nonsense, getting the defenders confident they are fit for purpose is the important thing in this one, get at least a point.  We need to build from the back a little and get them believing we can stay in this league.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on February 01, 2013, 10:49:54 AM
4231 for me (I've said enough times this season that it's probably boring:

Guzan
Lowton Vlaar Clark Baker
Sylla Westwood
Weimann Bannan Dawkins
Benteke


I'd be happy with that except i'd play N'Zogbia instead of Dawkins. Charles has started to show a bit of form of late and he's looked more up for it.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Duncan Shaw on February 01, 2013, 10:51:32 AM
4231 for me (I've said enough times this season that it's probably boring:

Guzan
Lowton Vlaar Clark Baker
Sylla Westwood
Weimann Bannan Dawkins
Benteke


I'd be happy with that except i'd play N'Zogbia instead of Dawkins. Charles has started to show a bit of form of late and he's looked more up for it.
This (with Charlie) for me too, unless Dunne is fit.
Can't seee beyond a defeat though, and a point off the bottom by the end of the day.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on February 01, 2013, 11:01:19 AM
4231 for me (I've said enough times this season that it's probably boring:

Guzan
Lowton Vlaar Clark Baker
Sylla Westwood
Weimann Bannan Dawkins
Benteke

Start with the back 4 fairly flat and the 3 slightly deeper covering the midfield, take the sting out of it early on, we need to keep a clean sheet for as long as possible, a draw away at Everton would be a good result so we don't need any gung-ho 5-6 up front nonsense, getting the defenders confident they are fit for purpose is the important thing in this one, get at least a point.  We need to build from the back a little and get them believing we can stay in this league.

Zog instead of Messi for me
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 01, 2013, 11:13:22 AM
For the first ten minutes, we will defend like schoolboys. We'll look like children chasing the ball around in the playground every time the ball comes into our box.

We will then slowly get into the game, and on 45 minutes, we'll have done pretty well. We won't be losing, we may even be winning.

We'll come out for the second half, and it'll be like they've all been necking valium in the dressing room. We'll look as woeful as we ever do.

Somehow, we will hold on till 75 minutes or so, at which point, the inevitable will happen, Fellaini will score from a corner, and that will be that. Everton will then score once more, the result of terrible defending, and it's null points again.

After the match, Lambert will say he has no complaints about the players, they gave everything, we gave it "a right good go" in the first half (ignoring the second half).

That evening, on here, the arguments will rage about why we should bin Lambert now, or why we should have weeks ago, but there will be the new element of "we didn't strengthen when we had the chance" thrown in.

Less than 10 percent of us will watch Match of the Day that evening.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on February 01, 2013, 11:18:49 AM
4231 for me (I've said enough times this season that it's probably boring:

Guzan
Lowton Vlaar Clark Baker
Sylla Westwood
Weimann Bannan Dawkins
Benteke

Start with the back 4 fairly flat and the 3 slightly deeper covering the midfield, take the sting out of it early on, we need to keep a clean sheet for as long as possible, a draw away at Everton would be a good result so we don't need any gung-ho 5-6 up front nonsense, getting the defenders confident they are fit for purpose is the important thing in this one, get at least a point.  We need to build from the back a little and get them believing we can stay in this league.

Zog instead of Messi for me

I've picked the 3 like that for the reason that Nzogbia doesn't seem to like to play wide so I think Dawkins is more likely to offer us width.  I've then picked Bannan to start centrally because I think he'll work harder to get us into the game and,  more importantly, nzogbia is more of a threat to come off the bench and change the game.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Nelly on February 01, 2013, 11:23:22 AM
Everton win. We might have a good half I suppose.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: achilles on February 01, 2013, 11:30:43 AM
Forgone conclusion really, just depends how many Everton want to score.

Fellaini hasn’t scored for ages so he will get at least a couple, again Jelavic hasn’t scored for ages so he will come off the bench to score. Then we have the added attraction of Leighton Baines tearing us to pieces down our right-hand side, exactly the same as he did against us at home. Will Lambchop have devised a cunning master plan to counteract this threat?

Oh joys, it has to be at least 4-1 probably more!
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VinnieChase84 on February 01, 2013, 11:36:22 AM
It's got to be 4-2-3-1 for this. Considering we need more presence in the middle I would play Sylla and Westwood with KEA slightly more advanced of them. Gabby and NZog wide of Tekkers
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Greg N'Ash on February 01, 2013, 11:44:07 AM
FOOTBALL
Aston Villa newcomers Yacouba Sylla and Simon Dawkins have been included in the squad for tomorrow's trip to Everton.

Midfielder Sylla was signed from French Ligue 2 side Clermont Foot, while winger Dawkins has joined on loan from Tottenham.



We're saved!! What a kick in the teeth for Everton, having to play us just after the re-inforcements we need to stay up arrived.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on February 01, 2013, 11:47:39 AM
Score draw. A point for us. Now I'm off to check the fixtures to see how the other mobs around us will do.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: stubbsyandy on February 01, 2013, 12:13:11 PM
Guzan
Lowton Vlaar Clark(or Dunne if fit) Baker
Weimann Sylla Westwood Gabby
N'Zogbia
Benteke

3-2 Villa
C'mon me babbies
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: OzVilla on February 01, 2013, 12:13:32 PM
3-1 to Everton.  They'll be far too strong for us at Goodison i'm afraid.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on February 01, 2013, 12:22:02 PM
They haven't done the double over us since our last relegation season.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: achilles on February 01, 2013, 12:24:48 PM
They haven't done the double over us since our last relegation season.

Great, another first then!
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: jonzy85 on February 01, 2013, 12:25:03 PM
Guzan
Lowton Vlaar Clark(or Dunne if fit) Baker
Weimann Sylla Westwood Gabby
N'Zogbia
Benteke

3-2 Villa
C'mon me babbies

Team looks as good as it can get to me.

He has to play with 4 at the back v Everton surely. They usually play with one up front with the goal threats coming from midfield through Fellaini, Pienaar and Osman.

Put Sylla man to man on Fellaini, we will soon find out if he can cut it at this level.

I can't see anything but an Everton win though.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: mr woo on February 01, 2013, 12:25:42 PM
                                    Guzan

Lowton.    Vlaar.      Clark.    Baker

Wiemann.     Cilla.    Delph(if fit)/Westwood.   Gabby

                          Zog


                     Benteke



3-0 Everton.

Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ACVilla on February 01, 2013, 12:31:53 PM
I'm normally a hugely pessimistic person, I'm always told that by my brother and my fiance.

I have no idea why, maybe it's that first half against West Brom and that second half against Newcastle but I still don't think we will go down. We cannot keep on losing, we are hugely, understandably, low on confidence but just imagine what a victory will do for that confidence.

The pressure is far less away from home and N'Zogbia and Weimann will tear them to pieces.

We will not lose this game,(I've only said that once this season and that was Swansea away), we will surprise everyone with how well we play and come out with all 3 points.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: jonzy85 on February 01, 2013, 12:33:12 PM
One thing I am very concerned about V Everton is how vulnerable we will be from set pieces. With Baines they have one of the best deliveries around.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on February 01, 2013, 12:34:10 PM
One thing I am very concerned about V Everton is how vulnerable we will be from set pieces. With Baines they have one of the best deliveries around.

This is true. Sylla better be huge.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on February 01, 2013, 12:39:26 PM
dont fancy watching Fellini in the box when they have a corner.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on February 01, 2013, 12:42:21 PM
Yacouba Sylla has been backed to bring much-needed "steel" to Villa's midfield after completing a deadline-day move from Clermont Foot.

Manager Paul Lambert insists Sylla is raring to go in claret and blue - and he has backed the French midfielder to adapt quickly to the rigours of the Barclays Premier League.

Lambert says the 22-year-old - who is eligible to make his debut against Everton on Saturday - will provide the "bite" in the central ground that his team have been lacking in recent weeks.

"He is a strong lad that we think might add a bit of bite in the middle of the pitch," said the Villa boss.

"We needed someone like that in there and hopefully he can adapt quickly.

"The lad will come in and give us something we don't have - a bit of steel there.

"He is someone who I think is raring to go and do it.

"As I say, he will give us something we haven't got in the middle."

Sylla, who was tracked by a host of clubs while playing in France's Ligue 2, has been labelled as a 'midfield destroyer'.

However, Lambert is reluctant to place unnecessary pressure on the Frenchman by comparing him to other players.

"I don't compare - it is an unfair judgement saying he is going to be like somebody," added Lambert.

"He will be his own player and his own man, which is all I want him to do - just be yourself, don't be anybody else."
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on February 01, 2013, 12:48:19 PM
Fuck that, I want him to be Patrick Viera instantly.  If not, half a Patrick Viera with a bit of Roy Keane thrown in.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: paulcomben on February 01, 2013, 01:00:35 PM
Get ready for a straight red card and a three match ban?
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: myf on February 01, 2013, 01:03:24 PM
At least we won't be rock bottom tomorrow - think it's on the cards though for a week tomorrow as can see QPR picking up 4 points in next 2 games
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on February 01, 2013, 01:03:54 PM
A final nail in the coffin - 6-1
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Kevin Dawson on February 01, 2013, 01:12:43 PM
4-1 defeat.......but don't worry, Lambert'll make sure we go again!
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 01, 2013, 01:17:35 PM
I think Sylla will turn out to be a big hit and dish out plenty of big hits too.

Whether he will be enough, remains to be seen, but I think he will do well.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on February 01, 2013, 01:23:45 PM
dont fancy watching Fellini in the box when they have a corner.

That's another thing and i'm sure i mentioned this before. Why have we stopped putting two men on the line when defending a corner? The only bloke on the line now is Bannan, which just dose'nt make sense.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Reuben on February 01, 2013, 01:28:59 PM

"He will be his own player and his own man, which is all I want him to do - just be yourself, don't be anybody else."

Aren't they lyrics from Grange Hill cast 'Just say no'?

Lambert out!
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: E I Adio on February 01, 2013, 01:35:17 PM
dont fancy watching Fellini in the box when they have a corner.

That's another thing and i'm sure i mentioned this before. Why have we stopped putting two men on the line when defending a corner? The only bloke on the line now is Bannan, which just dose'nt make sense.

I'm not sure what use Bannan is anywhere in the penalty area during corners.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Reuben on February 01, 2013, 01:37:26 PM
I'm not sure what use Bannan is anywhere in the penalty area during corners.

Unless he's in the opposition's when we attack - this means he isn't taking them!
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on February 01, 2013, 01:39:18 PM
dont fancy watching Fellini in the box when they have a corner.

That's another thing and i'm sure i mentioned this before. Why have we stopped putting two men on the line when defending a corner? The only bloke on the line now is Bannan, which just dose'nt make sense.

I'm not sure what use Bannan is anywhere in the penalty area during corners.

either box to be honest , attacking or defending.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on February 01, 2013, 01:49:37 PM
We started the decline after winning in Liverpool, we'll come out of it after winning in Liverpool.

Right?


........right?
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: achilles on February 01, 2013, 02:01:36 PM
Get ready for a straight red card and a three match ban?

 ;D

Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: achilles on February 01, 2013, 02:05:17 PM
"The lad will come in and give us something we don't have - a bit of steel there."

What about a bit of steel in defence or perhaps you haven't seen all the goals we have conceded?
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Duncan Shaw on February 01, 2013, 02:08:54 PM
Do you know, thinking about it, I'd leave Benteke up for the oppo corners.  He's useless defending them and it might amke the other team to keep a big man back.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Greg N'Ash on February 01, 2013, 02:17:02 PM
Didn't he say anything else?

I was at least expecting a bit of " we have to fight and go again, pick ourselves up and not lay down in this fight we find ourselves in. Randy's a great guy who's fighting for us off the pitch and going again. Now we need to fight on the pitch and not lay down. Everyone's fighting and we have to as well. Its a fight...." etc., etc..


Very poor show. :0(
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on February 01, 2013, 02:23:47 PM
Didn't he say anything else?

I was at least expecting a bit of " we have to fight and go again, pick ourselves up and not lay down in this fight we find ourselves in. Randy's a great guy who's fighting for us off the pitch and going again. Now we need to fight on the pitch and not lay down. Everyone's fighting and we have to as well. Its a fight...." etc., etc..


Very poor show. :0(

As inspiring as an out of date rotten old haggis !
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: glasses on February 01, 2013, 02:23:58 PM
            Guzan
Lowton Vlaar Baker Clark
              Sylla
  Westwood Delph
Weimann             CNZ
            Benteke

Looks the most physical side we can put out.

1-1
Weimann 42
Fellaini 87 (from a corner)
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: andyh on February 01, 2013, 02:37:05 PM
Did Lambert really say that about 'needing a bit of steel' ?
We have been saying it since August.
When did this finally dawn on him then, and why the fuck didn't he sort it out sooner ? 
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: MonsXI on February 01, 2013, 02:42:36 PM
Guzan
Lowton Vlaar Clark Baker
Sylla Westwood
Weimann CNZ Dawkins
Benteke

Would be my choice
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 01, 2013, 02:55:18 PM
Interesting read here and some great Villa photos on this Everton forum:
http://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/52988-Everton-v-Aston-Villa-2nd-Feb-15-00

Quote
What exactly is the point of Birmingham? It’s there and it’s big but it’s pointless isn’t it? England’s second city is a throwaway title to merely acknowledge a big massive soup of nothingness. Birmingham is the appendix of England all truth be told.

And I think this is part of the problem with Villa fans in that they’re aware that there’s no real redeeming features of their club, fans or city so they try to compensate by trying a bit too hard. Their rips are unfunny, their tattoos garish and this won’t win me many friends but even with this chanting Petrov’s name on the nineteenth minute of each game – it’s a bit too much isn't it? Sure it’s awful but give him support by writing him a letter and stuff or just being there for him when he needs it.

There’s always been a bit of an edge between them and us because we have an identity and they don’t. Were the club they hope to be when they grow up but can’t admit it.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on February 01, 2013, 02:58:41 PM
Rips?
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on February 01, 2013, 03:01:07 PM
Interesting read here and some great Villa photos on this Everton forum:
http://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/52988-Everton-v-Aston-Villa-2nd-Feb-15-00

Quote
What exactly is the point of Birmingham? It’s there and it’s big but it’s pointless isn’t it? England’s second city is a throwaway title to merely acknowledge a big massive soup of nothingness. Birmingham is the appendix of England all truth be told.

And I think this is part of the problem with Villa fans in that they’re aware that there’s no real redeeming features of their club, fans or city so they try to compensate by trying a bit too hard. Their rips are unfunny, their tattoos garish and this won’t win me many friends but even with this chanting Petrov’s name on the nineteenth minute of each game – it’s a bit too much isn't it? Sure it’s awful but give him support by writing him a letter and stuff or just being there for him when he needs it.

There’s always been a bit of an edge between them and us because we have an identity and they don’t. Were the club they hope to be when they grow up but can’t admit it.

Meowwww!
It's hard to argue back though with how ridiculous our club has become. We don't seem to have a place in the Premier League at the minute. We barely register a presence in games now, we're constantly ignored by the press and TV.
To be honest if we got relegated, outside of us lot, I don't think it would matter a jot to anyone. We've been an ever present in the Prem, but if we go down now will people think the top flight poorer for it? No.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on February 01, 2013, 03:04:11 PM
Interesting read here and some great Villa photos on this Everton forum:
http://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/52988-Everton-v-Aston-Villa-2nd-Feb-15-00

Quote
What exactly is the point of Birmingham? It’s there and it’s big but it’s pointless isn’t it? England’s second city is a throwaway title to merely acknowledge a big massive soup of nothingness. Birmingham is the appendix of England all truth be told.

And I think this is part of the problem with Villa fans in that they’re aware that there’s no real redeeming features of their club, fans or city so they try to compensate by trying a bit too hard. Their rips are unfunny, their tattoos garish and this won’t win me many friends but even with this chanting Petrov’s name on the nineteenth minute of each game – it’s a bit too much isn't it? Sure it’s awful but give him support by writing him a letter and stuff or just being there for him when he needs it.

There’s always been a bit of an edge between them and us because we have an identity and they don’t. Were the club they hope to be when they grow up but can’t admit it.

I have nothing against Everton, they're a decent old club with a decent history but to say they have an identity and we don't is a load a bollocks and the idea that Liverpool is a decent city is based purely on the beatles coming from there, it's a dock that the rest of the country used to get cheap labour until the poles started undercutting them.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: danno on February 01, 2013, 03:05:23 PM
What exactly are Everton F.C's redeeming features anyway?

Not being Liverpool?
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Nev on February 01, 2013, 03:06:52 PM
I have always liked Everton and love the ground.

One pig ignorant fan won't change that.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Surrey Villain on February 01, 2013, 03:11:49 PM
Rips?

So we are "slow speaking bellwhiffs"  What?   And Darren Bent has a "titty lip".  Really?
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on February 01, 2013, 03:15:46 PM
What exactly are Everton F.C's redeeming features anyway?

Not being Liverpool?
Yep and that's good enough for me.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on February 01, 2013, 03:19:16 PM
We have a scouser talking about how we handle the Petrov situation? Cancelling the rest of last seasons fixtures and black armbands all this season would be their way. And calling us 'an appendix of England'. If ever there was an appendix of England it's them.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 01, 2013, 03:23:04 PM
It's always the same. They go on about history then forever try to belittle the one (the only?) club who have as much as they do, showing their own ignorance in the process.

Luckily not all Everton supporters feel the same: www.bluekipper.com/club/31-history/3670-the_original_william_mcgregor.html There was also a piece that I can't find by a member of their Historical Society which said that without his insistence that they rather than Bootle be in the original league, Everton wouldn't exist and how they should remember that.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Surrey Villain on February 01, 2013, 03:30:16 PM
Lineker will no doubt be pointing out yet again that this is one of the oldest fixture in the Football League (the oldest?) but wondering whether it will be happening next season.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: youcefhassaine on February 01, 2013, 04:09:06 PM
I have a bad feeling about this one, to be honest can't remember having a good feeling about any recent games.

Everton 3 Aston Villa 1 - The toffee's winning comfortably
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on February 01, 2013, 04:10:02 PM
Quote
this is one of the oldest fixture in the Football League (the oldest?)


it's the most played league fixture
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on February 01, 2013, 04:16:22 PM
What exactly are Everton F.C's redeeming features anyway?

Not being Liverpool?

We can't match being the second biggest club in our own city.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on February 01, 2013, 04:50:49 PM
What exactly are Everton F.C's redeeming features anyway?


The way the surrounding neighbourhood paint the brickwork on their houses is a feature that's for sure.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on February 01, 2013, 05:03:27 PM
Everton can fuck off.  All of 'em - they're in the way of us and 3 points so let's have it!
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Surrey Villain on February 01, 2013, 05:05:52 PM
Quote
this is one of the oldest fixture in the Football League (the oldest?)


it's the most played league fixture

Thank Chico, I knew he always said something along those lines.  How many times are we ahead of the second most played so it will set us a target of how long we can stay down?
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on February 01, 2013, 05:40:35 PM
"The lad will come in and give us something we don't have - a bit of steel there."

What about a bit of steel in defence or perhaps you haven't seen all the goals we have conceded?

or a corrugated fence nailed to the cross bar and both posts please.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Billy Walker on February 01, 2013, 05:40:50 PM
Let's not forget Everton have had their fair share of ups and downs - one season relying on the dodgy goalkeeping of Hans Segers to keep them up on the very last day.  Hopefully things won't be as desperate for us and we'll have scrapped our way to safety well before the final day.

On another note, it's ironic that their jibes come from a website called, "A Grand Old Team" when we are both older and far grander than Everton could ever wish to be.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on February 01, 2013, 05:44:31 PM
I think If some one out there can put something in Baines and Fellani's food tonight and make them ill for tomorrow , we would have a bloody good chance .  Top players those two.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 01, 2013, 05:45:54 PM
Daft bunch of racists.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on February 01, 2013, 05:49:39 PM
I don't have anything against Everton.  But then I don't have anything against most clubs.  Except Leicester.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 01, 2013, 05:51:45 PM
I don't have anything against Everton.  But then I don't have anything against most clubs.  Except Leicester.

I plead the Acker Dictum. "There's 92 clubs. An' I 'ate 91 of 'em."
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 01, 2013, 05:52:08 PM
Everton have seemed to have a big chip on their shoulders about us for a long time. Personally I think it's because they rarely beat us and have won less than us.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 01, 2013, 05:53:12 PM
And according to WMP we've sold 1,139 tickets.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Jameson on February 01, 2013, 05:57:34 PM
Everton never bothered me in the slightest until this week when they well and truly shafted my brother, so I hope they get well and truly shafted themselves by Villa this weekend before spiralling into financial meltdown which sees them being deducted enough points to be relegated thereby saving Villa. Yes, that would be nice.

'The People's Club' can be filed alongside 'Proud History, Bright Future'.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: john e on February 01, 2013, 06:33:03 PM
Everton are the best team i've seen at VP this season,

 they were just awesome that day with Fellani, Bains and Pienaar ripping us apart,  and i left thinking they would be a shoe in for a top 4 spot, then they went and lost at Reading !
 anyway i'm not to optimistic about this one but if we are to stop the rot we need to get something from this game, so i'm going for a point (Heart not Head)
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: hilts_coolerking on February 01, 2013, 07:02:22 PM
I don't have anything against Everton.  But then I don't have anything against most clubs.  Except Leicester.

I plead the Acker Dictum. "There's 92 clubs. An' I 'ate 91 of 'em."
I just can't muster up that level of animosity.  I mean saying you hate Leyton Orient, for instance, would just make you sound like a div: "Fuckin' Orient, they boil my piss."  Some things just aren't meant to be hated.  Unlike Leicester.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on February 01, 2013, 08:14:48 PM
My closest game to travel to - 9 miles or thereabouts - always go, always meet up with my Evertonian mates, always have a great time, win draw or lose.
Tomorrow - I can`t be arsed. If the owner and CEO and manager can`t be why the Feck should I?
We will be trounced - Everton`s biggest victory over us for donkeys years. Another name in the coffin.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on February 01, 2013, 08:17:36 PM
And according to WMP we've sold 1,139 tickets.
That's quite a low turnout isn't it
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on February 01, 2013, 08:17:39 PM
Daft bunch of racists.
Change the record Ads !
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on February 01, 2013, 08:33:45 PM
Cheeky 3.2 to us and positive meltdown on here.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on February 01, 2013, 08:54:24 PM
I don't have anything against Everton.  But then I don't have anything against most clubs.  Except Leicester.

I plead the Acker Dictum. "There's 92 clubs. An' I 'ate 91 of 'em."
I just can't muster up that level of animosity.  I mean saying you hate Leyton Orient, for instance, would just make you sound like a div: "Fuckin' Orient, they boil my piss."  Some things just aren't meant to be hated.  Unlike Leicester.
Totally agree with the Leicester thing. Bunch of ............. Well, i cannot think of a word that describes those wankers......... oh, just did.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt C on February 01, 2013, 09:09:10 PM
Hope he goes with a similar team to that which finished the Newcastle game with possible Sylla in for Gabby. Weimann has to play if fit and we need to approach it with the same urgency and aggression we did that second half on Tuesday. The time for (attempting) pretty football is over.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: curlytailavfc on February 01, 2013, 09:10:50 PM
5-0 SYLLIA 2 HOME GOALS
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ACVilla on February 01, 2013, 09:41:07 PM
I've had £30 on Villa to win at 7/1.

If we lose this game I will be firmly in the "we're doomed camp" but we're not going to and I ain't gonna be.

Game of the season, UTV.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pooligan on February 01, 2013, 09:47:02 PM
For once i will use my head and not my heart when i predict this,4 -1 to them ,yet again our defence will opened up with ease.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 01, 2013, 09:51:56 PM
Everton are the best team i've seen at VP this season,

 they were just awesome that day with Fellani, Bains and Pienaar ripping us apart,  and i left thinking they would be a shoe in for a top 4 spot, then they went and lost at Reading !
 anyway i'm not to optimistic about this one but if we are to stop the rot we need to get something from this game, so i'm going for a point (Heart not Head)

Indeed. That game is often used as an example of how shit we are, but it's ignored that Everton put in the best performance i've seen from them at VP since their mid 80's title winning sides.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on February 01, 2013, 09:55:58 PM
Everton 3 (Husband, Kenyon, Labone) Villa 4 (Deakin, Pountney, Tindall, Sleeuwenhoek)
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on February 01, 2013, 09:58:34 PM
Everton 3 (Husband, Kenyon, Labone) Villa 4 (Deakin, Pountney, Tindall, Sleeuwenhoek)
Dave Poutney and Alan Deakin scored !!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on February 01, 2013, 10:16:49 PM
Everton 3 (Husband, Kenyon, Labone) Villa 4 (Deakin, Pountney, Tindall, Sleeuwenhoek)
Dave Poutney and Alan Deakin scored !!!!!
How old are you pair ? Villa win though.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on February 01, 2013, 10:19:08 PM
This must be the earliest I've ever wanted the ref to blow for full-time.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on February 01, 2013, 10:23:23 PM
This must be the earliest I've ever wanted the ref to blow for full-time.
We are going to win this game, just got a sneaky feeling. Cmon Villa..........Always the optimist when it comes to my heart. UTV
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on February 01, 2013, 10:28:01 PM
I would just like to see the boy Cilla put a set of studs on somebody. We may be short of confidence and quality but a bit of fight is not too much to ask.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lizz on February 01, 2013, 10:28:14 PM
Hope you're right Dan, but don't think you will be. More than happy to be proved wrong. I'd describe myself as optimstic, but right now my realism gene holds more sway than the optimistic one.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 01, 2013, 10:30:07 PM
Daft bunch of racists.
Change the record Ads !

Everton are white!
Everton are white!
Everton are white!

We are just so bland compared to that kind of identity that would make Leeds blush.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 01, 2013, 10:34:18 PM
Daft bunch of racists.
Change the record Ads !

Everton are white!
Everton are white!
Everton are white!

We are just so bland compared to that kind of identity that would make Leeds blush.

How long ago was that?
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on February 01, 2013, 10:36:05 PM
Daft bunch of racists.
Change the record Ads !

Everton are white!
Everton are white!
Everton are white!

We are just so bland compared to that kind of identity that would make Leeds blush.

Don't forget the "ni**erpool" chants aimed at Liverpool when they signed John Barnes. 
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 01, 2013, 10:41:18 PM
Not so long that there wont be a fair percentage of a 33/34k crowd who have sung it.

Whether they believe(d) it?
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 01, 2013, 10:44:31 PM
Not so long that there wont be a fair percentage of a 33/34k crowd who have sung it.

Whether they believe(d) it?

Really?
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: London Villan on February 01, 2013, 10:48:54 PM
Villa are 9/1 in some places... crazy odds in a two horse race, but would many people put even a quid on that?
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 01, 2013, 10:48:57 PM
Liverpool in the main looks like a post-nuclear wasteland, but the life expectency in Dipperville isn't that low.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on February 01, 2013, 10:53:10 PM
I was in Bootle the other day. I can't remember anything about it at all.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on February 01, 2013, 11:13:35 PM
Daft bunch of racists.
Change the record Ads !

Everton are white!
Everton are white!
Everton are white!

We are just so bland compared to that kind of identity that would make Leeds blush.

Like the Holte never abused "the Three degrees" under Big Ron - Racism has reared its ugly head all across the UK at some time in the past.
I have lived here 17 years now and have not come across blatant racists or bigots in all that time.
From my recollection you seem to have a downer on Liverpool and all things Merseyside - your perogative I guess but it is a shame you are so blinkered.
Racism can be a two way street - for example when my lad and I attended  the next generation game against Ajax at Villa Park a car drove past us both and a bottle was thrown at my 11 year old - there were four or five young lads of Asian descent in the car - they hurled racist abuse at a poor defenceless lad - does that make all people of asian descent living in Birmingham racists ? Of course it doesn`t - by the same token because people on Merseyside chanted insults some 30 years ago doesn`t mean all Evertonians are racist.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on February 01, 2013, 11:15:52 PM
0-2
our old boys and new boys frighten them and they run around in circles.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on February 01, 2013, 11:17:45 PM
I was in Bootle the other day. I can't remember anything about it at all.
Which local had you been in them Damon ? :)
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 01, 2013, 11:28:40 PM
Who was it that said the only people who don't like Liverpool are football supporters?
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 01, 2013, 11:33:47 PM
Somebody that has never had to drive from Skem to Birkenhead County Court on a regular basis.

Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on February 01, 2013, 11:34:08 PM
Ferguson?
or Kenwright?
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Clark Five on February 01, 2013, 11:35:22 PM
I have not missed a Villa game at Goodison Park for 40 years and have never had a problem with them.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on February 01, 2013, 11:36:17 PM
And according to WMP we've sold 1,139 tickets.
That's quite a low turnout isn't it

It is, we didn't take many last year either, we only had the bottom tier. I don't think anyone will struggle to get away tickets for the rest of the year
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 01, 2013, 11:53:05 PM
I was in Bootle the other day. I can't remember anything about it at all.

Bootle is just one long, depressing street past the docks into Liverpool. I quite often drive that way when I go to get the ferry home from the in-laws, and it really is brain-numbingly rough.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on February 02, 2013, 02:02:39 AM
It's the 20th anniversary of James Bulger's murder (after being abducted from Bootle Strand shopping centre) this month.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on February 02, 2013, 03:05:41 AM
Daft bunch of racists.
Change the record Ads !

Everton are white!
Everton are white!
Everton are white!

We are just so bland compared to that kind of identity that would make Leeds blush.

Like the Holte never abused "the Three degrees" under Big Ron - Racism has reared its ugly head all across the UK at some time in the past.

Difference is Everton prided themselves on their 'all white' team selections as recently as the mid 90's.

The early 80's were a grim period in English football, but Villa were better than most in that regard  (on the pitch, if not always in the stands).   Slowly, with the influx of black players in the game and the decline of hooliganism, more black and Asian fans felt welcome at most English grounds.  Not so Goodison.

Even as recently as 2008,  their fans took great delight in mocking our black players. One of their disabled lot really had it in for Ashley Young IIRC.  One of the weirdest things I've ever seen in football, a  bloke in a wheelchair giving it the full Bernard Manning.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on February 02, 2013, 08:17:02 AM
After a couple of weeks of feeling very down about our situation, I'm feeling defiant this morning.  I've even watched this to get me in the mood:



It's worked.  I reckon we'll get a 1-1 draw today with Benteke getting our goal. 
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on February 02, 2013, 08:21:03 AM
Greetings from Warrington. I was meant to be doing some work near Anfield this morning but its been called off. Therefore, I'll have a look round the Albert Dock area before heading to Goodison. I've never given myself time to explore Liverpool before
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on February 02, 2013, 08:48:51 AM
Best wishes to our small group of travelling fans today. You are the very definition of commitment (or insanity) ;-)
Would like to have been there myself but have been reigned in today and need a few brownie points.
Up the Villa !
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rancid custard on February 02, 2013, 09:08:03 AM
today's the day we turn the tide.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: avfcpg on February 02, 2013, 09:13:52 AM
A battling defeat. Hard to see where the next win is coming from.
Think I'll go and play golf and pray that our shooting is more accurate than my drving...
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on February 02, 2013, 09:27:26 AM
Let's have em.  3 points today and it could all change. 
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on February 02, 2013, 09:34:06 AM
today's the day we turn the tide.
Would be nice . When did they last lose at home ?
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TheEgo on February 02, 2013, 09:42:14 AM
Villa are 9/1 in some places... crazy odds in a two horse race, but would many people put even a quid on that?

We were 9/1 to win at Anfield......ten quid later we had a 3-1 win. First and last time I had bet. I'm going for it.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on February 02, 2013, 09:47:58 AM
Villa are 9/1 in some places... crazy odds in a two horse race, but would many people put even a quid on that?

We were 9/1 to win at Anfield......ten quid later we had a 3-1 win. First and last time I had bet. I'm going for it.

Ye my last bet was against Liverpool and i have got that same feeling today. Might just play "against all odds" Phil Collins on my i pod to the bookies .......
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on February 02, 2013, 09:52:12 AM
today's the day we turn the tide.

You daft Cnut.

See what I did there?
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on February 02, 2013, 09:59:44 AM
Time to stand  up and be counted we threw away leads at swansea and albion - today we need a win - a couple of successive wins would make a huge difference.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: mrfuse on February 02, 2013, 10:09:24 AM
Sadly Everton will rubbing their hands in anticipation. Even though Moyes will not let them approach the game half hearted it would be enough to beat us into submission.

I'm not even sure if I can watch the game its going to be embarrassing, (thanks Randy) fair play to the fans that have traveled.

Fellini will boss midfield even with 1 leg,blindfolded and his hands tied behind his back!
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 02, 2013, 10:10:32 AM
I really hope when I check the result later that I'm pleasantly surprised.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on February 02, 2013, 10:35:12 AM
Somebody that has never had to drive from Skem to Birkenhead County Court on a regular basis.



I take it you drive some kind of Mad Max vehicle.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on February 02, 2013, 10:38:05 AM
Greetings from Warrington. I was meant to be doing some work near Anfield this morning but its been called off. Therefore, I'll have a look round the Albert Dock area before heading to Goodison. I've never given myself time to explore Liverpool before

It's a great city to be fair.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villajk on February 02, 2013, 10:52:37 AM
Martin Keown is on the train with us.  May be that's a sign.  Of what I've no idea.

I'll go for a draw.  1-1.



Damn auto thingy put in Brown.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lamb_Stockmix on February 02, 2013, 10:52:47 AM
I'm going for 4 points from our next 2 games. I know Everton away is difficult but we always seem to do alright there. If he plays this team we have a chance:


--------------------Guzan------------------

Lowton------Vlaar------Clark------Baker

---------El Ahmadi------Sylla-------------

-Weimann-------N'Zogbia-------Gabby-

-------------------Benteke-----------------


Look at that front four. Fuck me how are we in this mess?......... Don't answer that.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on February 02, 2013, 10:56:17 AM
Would prefer Westwood over KEA.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on February 02, 2013, 10:56:42 AM
This team and 3 points as a nice suprise.
And the begining of the fight back. Everybody is writing us off. Even the fans mostly expect little from us.
Time to show what we're made of.

                                Guzan

Lowton          Vlaar               Baker        Bennett

                                 Sylla
             Westwood              El Ahmadi
                             
                              N'Zogbia
               Benteke                 Weimann

Given, Clark, Lichaj, Bannan, Dawkins, Agbonlahor, Bent


Just play with the intensity of the scond half against Newcastle from now until May and see what happens. No retreat, no surrender, no quarter.
This is Everton, they're not invincible. Southampton should have murdered them. They can be got at and beaten.

Oh yes, and dont play like shite for one half please.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 02, 2013, 10:59:10 AM
This team and 3 points as a nice suprise.
And the begining of the fight back. Everybody is writing us off. Even the fans mostly expect little from us.
Time to show what we're made of.

                                Guzan

Lowton          Vlaar               Baker        Bennett

                                 Sylla
             Westwood              El Ahmadi
                             
                              N'Zogbia
               Benteke                 Weimann

Given, Clark, Lichaj, Bannan, Dawkins, Agbonlahor, Bent


Just play with the intensity of the scond half against Newcastle from now until May and see what happens. No retreat, no surrender, no quarter.
This is Everton, they're not invincible. Southampton should have murdered them. They can be got at and beaten.

Oh yes, and dont play like shite for one half please.

Yeah I'd be happy enough with that, it's about time KEA stepped up.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on February 02, 2013, 11:03:32 AM
Greetings from Warrington. I was meant to be doing some work near Anfield this morning but its been called off. Therefore, I'll have a look round the Albert Dock area before heading to Goodison. I've never given myself time to explore Liverpool before

It's a great city to be fair.
Is it ? Not the bits I've seen
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 02, 2013, 11:04:27 AM
No it isn't.

They have tarted up the city centre very nicely, but the environs surrounding the city centre all look so similar and equally as poverty ridden.

Whether you drive in off the M62 or in off the East Lancs et al, you look like you've entered the same suburb. It might be a small city, but its odd.

The women are all identikit too. Stop painting awful looking eyebrows on your face. Stop putting on so much fake tan. You look fucking terrible.

Lee, you wouldn't be surprised to see Mel Gibson driving past Aintree. Its bloody awful  and looks like its been caught between the German 6th Army and a Soviet counter attack.

There is also the paradox of just how they get their traineers so gleaming white when there is more dog shit per square inch than St Andrews on matchday.

The only way you might call Liverpool great is if you have come from Widnes, St Helens, Wigwam or Skem. Then you would have a point.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on February 02, 2013, 11:04:36 AM
Martin Brown is on the train with us.  May be that's a sign.  Of what I've no idea.

I'll go for a draw.  1-1.
Who is Martin Brown ?
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on February 02, 2013, 11:05:39 AM
Sylla will spear tackle Fellaini in the opening five minutes, the rest of them will "We're having some of this" and tear into them too.

A goal after 20 mins to be followed by three swift breaks for a shock 4-0 win.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on February 02, 2013, 11:06:56 AM
Martin Brown is on the train with us.  May be that's a sign.  Of what I've no idea.

I'll go for a draw.  1-1.
Who is Martin Brown ?

Cousin of brian green, nephew of paul white and brother in law of frank black.
The question is where is clarey blue?
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on February 02, 2013, 11:07:46 AM
The bits I've seen -
Anfield area - dump
Goodison area - dump
Fazakerley - dump
The drive from the motorway to both grounds - dump all the way
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on February 02, 2013, 11:09:07 AM
Martin Brown is on the train with us.  May be that's a sign.  Of what I've no idea.

I'll go for a draw.  1-1.
Who is Martin Brown ?

Cousin of brian green, nephew of paul white and brother in law of frank black.
The question is where is clarey blue?
Nope still none the wiser.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on February 02, 2013, 11:09:37 AM
The bits I've seen -
Anfield area - dump
Goodison area - dump
Fazakerley - dump
The drive from the motorway to both grounds - dump all the way


Try the drive into town through Toxteth for a little post-apocalyptic chic.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 02, 2013, 11:10:01 AM
Oh yes, Sylla to do a Josh Lewsy on Matt Rogers style hit on Sideshow Bob, get away with it and we maul them.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 02, 2013, 11:12:55 AM
The bits I've seen -
Anfield area - dump
Goodison area - dump
Fazakerley - dump
The drive from the motorway to both grounds - dump all the way


You could say the same about Birmingham if all you saw was the road from the M6 to the grounds.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on February 02, 2013, 11:15:51 AM
Greetings from Warrington. I was meant to be doing some work near Anfield this morning but its been called off. Therefore, I'll have a look round the Albert Dock area before heading to Goodison. I've never given myself time to explore Liverpool before

It's a great city to be fair.

Fantastic place especially when people just start talking to you randomly - they are a gregarious bunch.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on February 02, 2013, 11:15:54 AM
Here's a shite read read if you're interested (http://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/52988-Everton-v-Aston-Villa-2nd-Feb-15-00)
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on February 02, 2013, 11:16:03 AM
The bits I've seen -
Anfield area - dump
Goodison area - dump
Fazakerley - dump
The drive from the motorway to both grounds - dump all the way


You could say the same about Birmingham if all you saw was the road from the M6 to the grounds.

But not every single route into town.

Ads is right, the town centre is good but it's the only place I'd choose to live up there.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on February 02, 2013, 11:20:42 AM
Here's a shite read read if you're interested (http://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/52988-Everton-v-Aston-Villa-2nd-Feb-15-00)

What a wanker, I like scousers but they to have a tendency towards being sanctimonious twats.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on February 02, 2013, 11:21:16 AM
Every city has its grim parts. In Liverpool they happen to be nearly anywhere that isn't the city centre.

Drive from Speke into Hunts Cross, Old Swan, West Derby, Nozzy Greeeeen (sic), Walton, Fazacalacalaclacy in Aintree and you have managed to drive from bottom to top through a never changing dump.

Imagine a city entirely like Northfield.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on February 02, 2013, 11:25:30 AM
The bits I've seen -
Anfield area - dump
Goodison area - dump
Fazakerley - dump
The drive from the motorway to both grounds - dump all the way


You could say the same about Birmingham if all you saw was the road from the M6 to the grounds.
Certain parts around villa park are stunning. Namely Aston Hall the park and the church.
There is nothing like that around anfield or Goodison
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brian green on February 02, 2013, 11:26:15 AM
Yes there is a certain je ne sais quoi about Sylla being filled with Blind Hate up there.   Wish he did not smile so much though.   We need scary players not smiley ones.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on February 02, 2013, 11:28:18 AM
The bits I've seen -
Anfield area - dump
Goodison area - dump
Fazakerley - dump
The drive from the motorway to both grounds - dump all the way


Try the drive into town through Toxteth for a little post-apocalyptic chic.
Ha, I might pass on that
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Surrey Villain on February 02, 2013, 11:31:58 AM
'Surprise, Surprise' with our Sylla!
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on February 02, 2013, 11:38:03 AM
The bits I've seen -
Anfield area - dump
Goodison area - dump
Fazakerley - dump
The drive from the motorway to both grounds - dump all the way


You could say the same about Birmingham if all you saw was the road from the M6 to the grounds.

You can't possibly mean the sweeping Vistas of the Aston Distressway? The Sacre Couer de Saint Chadde? The Isle de Matalan? Rue de Lichfield?
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lamb_Stockmix on February 02, 2013, 11:39:03 AM
Would prefer Westwood over KEA.

I think we should rest him. KEA needs games to adapt, there's a good player in there.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jockey Randall on February 02, 2013, 11:39:58 AM
"There’s always been a bit of an edge between them and us because we have an identity and they don’t. Were the club they hope to be when they grow up but can’t admit it."

Jesus, how deluded can you get?

Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 02, 2013, 11:40:09 AM
The bits I've seen -
Anfield area - dump
Goodison area - dump
Fazakerley - dump
The drive from the motorway to both grounds - dump all the way


You could say the same about Birmingham if all you saw was the road from the M6 to the grounds.
Certain parts around villa park are stunning. Namely Aston Hall the park and the church.
There is nothing like that around anfield or Goodison

Stanley Park.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on February 02, 2013, 11:42:11 AM
Would prefer Westwood over KEA.

I think we should rest him. KEA needs games to adapt, there's a good player in there.

No- westwood is vital, kea will do nothing , lets see sylla with westie.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on February 02, 2013, 11:44:18 AM
Sylla / Westwood please. Hopefully KEA hasn't made the trip.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villajk on February 02, 2013, 11:48:39 AM
Martin Brown is on the train with us.  May be that's a sign.  Of what I've no idea.

I'll go for a draw.  1-1.
Who is Martin Brown ?

It should have read Martin Keown but the auto thingy made it Brown.

Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on February 02, 2013, 11:50:08 AM
Martin Brown is on the train with us.  May be that's a sign.  Of what I've no idea.

I'll go for a draw.  1-1.
Who is Martin Brown ?

It should have read Martin Keown but the auto thingy made it Brown.



Keown goal thinks far more of everton than us.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lamb_Stockmix on February 02, 2013, 11:50:52 AM
Would prefer Westwood over KEA.

I think we should rest him. KEA needs games to adapt, there's a good player in there.

No- westwood is vital, kea will do nothing , lets see sylla with westie.

No- What I think.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on February 02, 2013, 11:50:52 AM
"There’s always been a bit of an edge between them and us because we have an identity and they don’t. Were the club they hope to be when they grow up but can’t admit it."

Jesus, how deluded can you get?



Notice the writer includes the obligatory 'What's the point of Birmingham?' line 
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villajk on February 02, 2013, 11:52:52 AM
Martin Brown is on the train with us.  May be that's a sign.  Of what I've no idea.

I'll go for a draw.  1-1.
Who is Martin Brown ?

Cousin of brian green, nephew of paul white and brother in law of frank black.
The question is where is clarey blue?

KEOWN
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: l_mckay on February 02, 2013, 11:55:54 AM
Positive result pleae villa!!!!
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brian green on February 02, 2013, 11:56:19 AM
In the small part Morocco played in the Africa Cup KEA was as useless for them as he has been for us.   Sylla to play as Westwood's minder gets my shout.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on February 02, 2013, 12:01:42 PM
"There’s always been a bit of an edge between them and us because we have an identity and they don’t. Were the club they hope to be when they grow up but can’t admit it."

Jesus, how deluded can you get?



Scousers are more deluded than Geordies. The ultimate fantasist bullshitters.
They like the smell of their own bullshit too. They forget that nobody outised of their bubble buys it though.

For the record, I've never had much time for Everton. There is this notion of mutual respect between us but I dont share it.
They have some history and I respect that but its nothing too important. Forever in the shadow of their neighbours.
We may have ups and down but they're just there in the background. Unremarkable, unimportant and certainly nothing like a role model.

If we wanted shit dilapidated facilities in a small provincial town and to be the poor relations in our own postcode maybe, but I hope for better to be honest.
Never looked to them as anything to aspire to and I never will.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Clark Five on February 02, 2013, 12:06:50 PM
N'Zogbia is the key to our success today. He is starting to repay the £9.5m we paid for him.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Summers on February 02, 2013, 12:12:46 PM
Wigan/Southampton
Reading/Sunderland
QPR/Norwich

Teams around the bottom WILL be dropping points today. So we need to pick points up. Big time.

Like to see us play one of three ways.

442

Guzan
Lowton Vlaar Clark Baker
Gabby Westwood Sylla N'Zogbia
Weimann Benteke

or 442 diamond

Guzan
Lowton Vlaar Clark Baker
Sylla
Westy KEA
N'Zogbia
Weiamann Benteke

or 433

Guzan
Lowton Vlaar Clark Baker
KEA Westwood Sylla
Weimann Benteke N'Zogbia

Sadly, however, I expect us to line up in a horrible 532.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on February 02, 2013, 12:14:48 PM
N'Zogbia is the key to our success today. He is starting to repay the £9.5m we paid for him.

He's having as good a spell as we've seen since he arrive no doubt.  I'd say the key to our success today is not conceding from a corner or 3.  Do that and we can score the goals we'd need to win the game.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on February 02, 2013, 12:15:58 PM
Lambert has just been on Skyspsorts, I know we all joke about him mumbling, but I could honestly not catch a word of what he was saying.

It might at least explain the defensive fuck ups every game.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Bottom Right 89 on February 02, 2013, 12:25:23 PM
Here's a shite read read if you're interested (http://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/52988-Everton-v-Aston-Villa-2nd-Feb-15-00)

What a wanker, I like scousers but they to have a tendency towards being sanctimonious twats.
You know what - Everton can fuck right off. I have always respected their club and knowledgable supporters but after the home game this season I had the misfortune of spending 15 minutes on Witton platform with hundreds of these gloating idiots expressing similar opinions to this guy.

At the end of the day they are just like us, tradition, history, travel in numbers, get behind their team when its needed and moan just like us when their team should do better but they refuse to admit it. They believe a couple of seasons of decent football in the mid 80s gives them superiority over everyone and spout phrases like "school of soccer science" and other bollocks - well I remember the early 90s when they were crap and flirted with relegation like we are now, I always sympathised but fuck em, I hope Benteke shuts them up just like he did to their red cousins. Reality is they have a fan base the same size as ours and an overall premier league table shows that they have won less games than us over 20 seasons. Ok they've pulled their socks up over the last decade mainly because they have a decent manager who gets the best out of every player not because man for man they were better than ours. Ground wise forget this crap about Goodison being a great old ground - its not, its a shit hole and resembles something from the war.

That said away from Goodison Park I've got a lot of time for Liverpool as a city, its a great night out with a good atmosphere.

Rant over - get into em Villa and wear a gum shield, you never know when Sideshow Bob will unleash a forearm smash.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on February 02, 2013, 12:32:51 PM
Our FB's are just so awful that's one of our major problems . It makes it so easy for the opposition down the flanks.
Even Bradford exposed and exploited those areas.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on February 02, 2013, 12:35:27 PM
Lowton is not awful. And Bennett is just raw.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on February 02, 2013, 12:37:23 PM
For the first time this season I am going out at 2:55 and not coming back until 5:00.
I shall be with a non-footie interested mate (he made the mistake of mentioning the Olbiun were doing well some months ago but learned is lesson) on our allotment and shall review the score on my return.
My family do not need the shambling yawping tortured beastly presence I become during away matches.
I hope we win.
See you all against West Ham
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Steve kirk on February 02, 2013, 12:37:39 PM
Were on the floor and nobody gives us a chance today but I think we will come back from Goodison with a point 2-2
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: markus209 on February 02, 2013, 12:39:19 PM
I think we'll nick a win today. I have no particular reason for thinking this other than a gut feeling. No doubt I'll change my mind a few minutes in.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on February 02, 2013, 12:48:20 PM
Lowton is not awful. And Bennett is just raw.
Lowton has been pretty poor since Chelsea and Bennett looks useless .
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on February 02, 2013, 12:49:19 PM
Lowton is not awful. And Bennett is just raw.
Lowton has been pretty poor since Chelsea and Bennett looks useless .

Personally, I think Lowton's been very good all season and has played very well recently.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: django on February 02, 2013, 12:55:03 PM
I'd play the side that finished against Newcastle, possibly swapping Sylla for Bannan if he's ready, or Mazrims team. I wouldn't give up on KEA just yet, although could be a gamble playing him and Sylla together while neither have adapted to the pace of the league.

We just need to start the game with the intensity we finished with on Tuesday and you never know. Even a stopped clock gets the time right twice a day.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on February 02, 2013, 01:18:36 PM
The possibility of Bannan's name on the team sheet again, fills me with dread.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on February 02, 2013, 01:28:54 PM
The bits I've seen -
Anfield area - dump
Goodison area - dump
Fazakerley - dump
The drive from the motorway to both grounds - dump all the way


First time in years that I've had some kid say "look after your car Mister". Therefore I've decided to pay to park at Walton Hall Sports Centre
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on February 02, 2013, 01:31:12 PM
The bits I've seen -
Anfield area - dump
Goodison area - dump
Fazakerley - dump
The drive from the motorway to both grounds - dump all the way


You could say the same about Birmingham if all you saw was the road from the M6 to the grounds.

Ditto the drive from the Hawthorns throught Smethwick/Oldbury to J2 of the M5
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: manic-road on February 02, 2013, 01:39:07 PM
4-0 Home win.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: russon on February 02, 2013, 01:41:12 PM
Had the misfortune of sitting next to a newcastle fan this morning at my lad's football training. He was at the game on Tues and couldn't understand why we didn't start with Weimann. We must start with him today (or was he crocked the other night? he seemed to take a couple of knocks)
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: j3598 on February 02, 2013, 01:41:59 PM
To complete my transition to a total basket case, I think it's a comfortable if not large Everton win today, but as I hate to bet against my own a cheeky punt on an away win. Make of that confused nonesense what you will. How different we'd all feel if we could just nick it.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: citizenDJ on February 02, 2013, 01:43:28 PM
Lowton is not awful. And Bennett is just raw.
Lowton has been pretty poor since Chelsea and Bennett looks useless .

Personally, I think Lowton's been very good all season and has played very well recently.

I agree with this, I think Lowton has all the potential to be a fine full back. In fact, I also think Bennett could be a good player. My worry is that we don't have a manager or coach who is about to help them improve.

Anyway, I fear a bit of a drubbing again today. I think he'll start with Sylla, and I have to say I'm genuinely quite interested to see him play! Because he must have something about him for us to have brought him in, surely?! Who knows, maybe he will add just the bite we need to help the defence.

If so, we'll get a draw, providing we concede no corners or free kicks in our own half.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: citizenDJ on February 02, 2013, 01:44:40 PM
Had the misfortune of sitting next to a newcastle fan this morning at my lad's football training. He was at the game on Tues and couldn't understand why we didn't start with Weimann. We must start with him today (or was he crocked the other night? he seemed to take a couple of knocks)

Couldn't agree more. Weimann and Benteke should be automatic picks in my opinion.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: martin o`who?? on February 02, 2013, 01:54:09 PM
This match feels like a bumpy landing - you know you`ve got no choice, you just pray you come out in one piece.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: achilles on February 02, 2013, 01:55:23 PM
If its any consolation we do play better away from home and Everton have drawn a lot of home games... so we may sneek a point (hopefully), although I can't really see it!
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on February 02, 2013, 02:00:56 PM
Weimann was ill and that's why he didn't start the other night. Lambert confirmed as much after.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on February 02, 2013, 02:01:37 PM
Whichever players start, I would like to suggest a 4-4-2.
The tactics and team talk immediately before kick off would be straightforward, and BACK TO BASICS.
1) You four defenders, line up across the back and don't let them past.
2) You four midfielders, line up across the pitch in front of the defenders. When they have the ball try to protect the defence, when we have the ball 2 or 3 of you try to get forward and help the forwards.
3) You two forwards, get stuck into their defenders at every opportunity.

This will be should easily understood by all.


 
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on February 02, 2013, 02:04:31 PM
I'd go 4-3-3. Sylla could start although I'd fully understand perhaps bringing him on second half when the game's got a touch slower to ease him in, but either way we need numbers in midfield at all costs, otherwise Everton will - not could, will - overrun us.
Title: Re: Everton v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on February 02, 2013, 02:08:18 PM
Whichever players start, I would like to suggest a 4-4-2.
The tactics and team talk immediately before kick off would be straightforward, and BACK TO BASICS.
1) You four defenders, line up across the back and don't let them past.
2) You four midfielders, line up across the pitch in front of the defenders. When they have the ball try to protect the defence, when we have the ball 2 or 3 of you try to get forward and help the forwards.
3) You two forwards, get stuck into their defenders at every opportunity.

This will be should easily understood by all.


 

Only problem with us playing 4-4-2 is that we don't have any natural wingers.  Any option we play out wide will either struggle with the attacking or defending aspects of that position. 
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