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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on October 26, 2012, 03:51:44 PM
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Guzan, Lowton, Vlaar (c), Bennett, El Ahmadi, Delph, Herd, Albrighton, Holman, Agbonlahor, Benteke.
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I'm surprised Gabby is playing he hasn't earnt it. However come on you Villa boys. 3-5-2?
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Also Bent is never going to get into form if we keep dropping him.
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I'm getting more and more convinced that Bent is being forced out of the door
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I'm surprised Gabby is playing he hasn't earnt it. However come on you Villa boys. 3-5-2?
Herd right back I think
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Surprised Herd at right back ahead of lichaj and that gabby is ahead of bent and Weimann, let's go get em boys!
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Ah that makes sense. I'm not sure what Lambert is doing with Bent it seems very strange. I'm happy enough to see Benteke start, but it should be with Bent.
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Why no Lichaj? Does PL just pick names from a hat game by game or does he actually have a plan? Bent, Bannan and Ireland, in particular, must wonder about the thought process.
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Midfield looks lacking in spark and with a midfielder at right back and right back at centre half it's a worry.
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Gabby for Bent doesn't seem strange at all to me. Or Paul Lambert, so that'll do me.
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Bent should be starting in front of gabby I think. Please please win today,nervous already. Come on you villa!!!!!
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I'm getting more and more convinced that Bent is being forced out of the door
It does seem that he sees Benteke and Gabby as the future. If he does go then that cash needs to be reinvested almost immediately. Mind you, Bent did next to fuck all at Fulham last week. I trust Lambert so I really hope he's playing this one right.
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Bent's interview is fair enough on Sky.
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Of to the boozer now to watch the game. Fingers crossed, again.
UTV.
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Gabby does not deserve a start it's as simple as that. However hopefully he'll finally score today. Come on Villa we need to win this.
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People on the radio cant believe Gabby starting and not Bent . Everyone saying you have to play the goalscorer.
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Gabby was much better than Bent at Fulham, it's as simple as that.
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More people like the Spice Girls than the Clash. So fucking what?
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Problem is though he's a striker and he hasn't scored in the league for nearly a year.
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Seems we are playing pretty football but going no where forward .
I think I would have started Bent instead of Gabby and Nzog for Albrighton .
Come on villa . We have to win this.
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I see N'Zog hasn't even made the bench !!
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Just noticed no Ireland in team . Is he on bench?
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Just noticed no Ireland in team . Is he on bench?
Yes he is. I wonder if Lambert's gone 4-3-3, with Albrighton and Gabby wide of Benteke.
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well Norwich will create chances , they created loads with Lambert and will be on a high from beating Arse.
I just hope we create some . I thought easy win about a hour ago , I am now bum squeaking .
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Subs: Given, Lichaj, Westwood, Bannan, Bent, Weimann, Ireland.
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I don't think my nerves can stand this. I'll tune in this evening when I've calmed down. Take it easy chaps.
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Problem is though he's a striker and he hasn't scored in the league for nearly a year.
I've known defenders get more goals.
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Dion Dublin and Robbie Savage are the pundits on Football Focus. Waiting for head butts. Meanwhile, Jeff Stelling and crew saying no team has gone backwards on player investment faster than Villa in 3 seasons.
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I really hope leaving Bent out turns out to be the right decision. I think he should have started, he is our most likely goal scorer. I was certain he would score today. Hope Gabby finally starts scoring in the league again, or Benteke, our midfielders do not score many goals. N'Zogbia derserved a start, but he seems to be injured. Glad that Herd starts, I think he is better than Lichaj.
Please show some character and desire today, we need to win...
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We should just play 4-3-3 and go for the jugular from the off. Get into an unassailable lead and take it from there.
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I would have given Bent/ Benteke a shot. Gabby has not scored and still not threatened despite playing well last week, and his lack of goals in the league despite playing the vast majority of the last season up front is not good enough, and a large part of why we struggle so much. If Benteke is to be stuck with, which at his age he should as he shows promise long term, niether Gabby nor Bent are the solution alongside him for me.
Anyhow, strange selection all round for me, and Lambert still does not know his best team at all. Just hope we can get a goal up, a bit of confidence and see it through. We need a win, very, very badly.
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Last time we won on Sky in the league was when we beat Arsenal 1-2 at the Emirates, May 2011 ( I think).Just another shocking statistic
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well one win in 18 games is bloody awful.
We have to win .
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For those who are asking what's Gabby done to be in the side, I expected him to play purely because of what he did to them in the same fixture last season. He was all over them in what must have been his best performance of the season.
It will be the same formation with the diamond and Albrighton/Herd providing the width on the right. PL likes to have one of Bannan or Albrighton in the side at any one time because they are the main set-piece takers. The Fulham game was a rare occasion where neither were used but I assumed that was because Benteke wasn't playing. We were awful on set pieces last week though.
I thought Albrighton played well in the first half against Albion and then he was awful until he got subbed. Wouldn't be surprised if the same thing happened today. Interesting that there's no N'Zog though - the club's second biggest earner and he can't get on the bench? The biggest earner might not be able to get into the side but we haven't been playing to his strengths - hopefully we can evolve to a point where we can get him the supply he needs.
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Agree that Lambert still does not know his best team yet. The various combinations in midfield turn out average, not bad but not breathtaking either. Albrighton owes a really good game, it would be a shame if all that early promise fades.
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I would have given Bent/ Benteke a shot. Gabby has not scored and still not threatened despite playing well last week, and his lack of goals in the league despite playing the vast majority of the last season up front is not good enough, and a large part of why we struggle so much. If Benteke is to be stuck with, which at his age he should as he shows promise long term, niether Gabby nor Bent are the solution alongside him for me.
Anyhow, strange selection all round for me, and Lambert still does not know his best team at all. Just hope we can get a goal up, a bit of confidence and see it through. We need a win, very, very badly.
We could have had Van Persie and Aguerro up front last week but unless someone starts creating chances with accurate balls into and around the area, we won't score in a month of Sundays. The final pass was shocking last week
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Agreed, must win game this.
Need the 3 points or we we find ourselves in that little group of teams struggling with relegation I think.
3-1 villa benteke 2 and KEA 20 harder, Hoilahan for them
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I would like to see Westwood get some games at some point - of all the lower league ones signed, he was the one his fans rated the highest of all. Delph has been poor and must be on borrowed time if poor again today.
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Just seen the team, Herd at CB? No Bent again? Strange choices, 4-3-3 to start with would have been good I think.
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He's saving Bent for Swindon ;o
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The top five earners - Given, Dunne, N'Zogbia, Bent and Ireland all benched (or injured). It's clear we need more seniority in the team; I'm worried Lambert is trusting youth and inexperience too much.
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I would have given Bent/ Benteke a shot. Gabby has not scored and still not threatened despite playing well last week, and his lack of goals in the league despite playing the vast majority of the last season up front is not good enough, and a large part of why we struggle so much. If Benteke is to be stuck with, which at his age he should as he shows promise long term, niether Gabby nor Bent are the solution alongside him for me.
Anyhow, strange selection all round for me, and Lambert still does not know his best team at all. Just hope we can get a goal up, a bit of confidence and see it through. We need a win, very, very badly.
We could have had Van Persie and Aguerro up front last week but unless someone starts creating chances with accurate balls into and around the area, we won't score in a month of Sundays. The final pass was shocking last week
That's not totally the point though. Van Persie and Aguero help create chances as well as finish them. This idea - Bent's idea - that the striker is an isolated figure waiting for his teammates to serve him up ready cut-up, bitesize chances on silver platters. He needs to do his fair share not just hang around and wait for the glory.
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I would have given Bent/ Benteke a shot. Gabby has not scored and still not threatened despite playing well last week, and his lack of goals in the league despite playing the vast majority of the last season up front is not good enough, and a large part of why we struggle so much. If Benteke is to be stuck with, which at his age he should as he shows promise long term, niether Gabby nor Bent are the solution alongside him for me.
Anyhow, strange selection all round for me, and Lambert still does not know his best team at all. Just hope we can get a goal up, a bit of confidence and see it through. We need a win, very, very badly.
We could have had Van Persie and Aguerro up front last week but unless someone starts creating chances with accurate balls into and around the area, we won't score in a month of Sundays. The final pass was shocking last week
That's not totally the point though. Van Persie and Aguero help create chances as well as finish them. This idea - Bent's idea - that the striker is an isolated figure waiting for his teammates to serve him up ready cut-up, bitesize chances on silver platters. He needs to do his fair share not just hang around and wait for the glory.
Agree totally, I was just making the point that it is not down to the strikers and the idea that swapping them around will somehow make some huge difference
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Delph's eyeballs get me every time on that team sheet ;)
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Midfield has to do more already.
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We need more fucking bodies in midfield. We're still to hasty through the middle, and don't have enough options in the midfield. It's an obvious problem with a simple solution.
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We need more fucking bodies in midfield. We're still to hasty through the middle, and don't have enough options in the midfield. It's an obvious problem with a simple solution.
As I was saying....!
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A shot on target.
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We need more fucking bodies in midfield. We're still to hasty through the middle, and don't have enough options in the midfield. It's an obvious problem with a simple solution.
As I was saying....!
Yeah, I think it is a tactical point really. You see one of the two strikers hanging around uselessly on the edge of the area while the midfield struggles to find shorter options and ends up whacking it in the direction of the useless striker - and losing the ball. Solution? Three in midfield, ONE main striker.
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Poor from Albrighton there.
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Fuck was that Albrighton!? Gabby did great, and then just bollocksed by Marc. With Benteke in there, we need to get it in there when we can.
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We really lack a physical presence in midfield and just get bumped off the ball.
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The other issue with Albrighton - gives away so many fouls. Prefer Bannan in the side as he at least has passing ability.
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eesh, commentators getting me annoyed already.
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This is sloppy and poor from us already.
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Delph is a passenger without the ball isn't he! No where near a man most of the time.
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Giving the ball away constantly
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When they get the ball they have no options because there aren't enough players in the midfield.
4-4-2 is dead. Give it up, Paul, please, for God's sake, give it up.
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Midfield has to do more already.
We have a midfield?
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Being trapped in our own half by fucking Norwich great start.
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Delph is a passenger without the ball isn't he! No where near a man most of the time.
You could argue he is with the ball.
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We are not playing like the home side here.
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Sloppy from Holman there.
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Every other team in the division seems to keep the ball better than us. We're awful.
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Holman passing wise has been poor so far.
That was not a penalty SMith, stop trying to pretend it was.
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What is it exactly we're gaining by not picking Bent?
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Holman passing wise has been poor so far.
That was not a penalty SMith, stop trying to pretend it was.
Holman's passing was dire last week too - he overhits it almost every time
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Poor start by us, really really poor. Both teams looked nervous but Norwich don't look bad going forward. Well, they keep the ball well but didn't look like scoring
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Benteke shows how to try and actually run with the ball.
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It's only 15 mins in, but I'd get Delph and Albrighton off!
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Gabby and Benteke give more to the team than Bent does. But then I would sooner put Gabby wide right than Albrighton and have all 3 in the side!
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Got a feeling Lambert will bring in a target man in January
Sadly don't think we'll be seeing Bent next season...
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Penalty for me
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Poor set piece there.
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Fucking Hell
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ffs Villa should be 1 down
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Good save Guzan, horrendous defending.
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Save. This is pathetic.
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well done Brad
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Brad saves our bacon.
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eeesh
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Bennett looks far too lightweight.
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Delph you are not very good.
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Fuck me what is our defence doing!? Good save Guzan. Why are we finding it so difficult to get rid of the ball?
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we're all over the place at the moment.
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Who got it and lost it straight away there? Delph or KEA? Westwood and Ireland would be no worse for the second half. Both been appalling with and without the ball.
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Should be 0-1 down. Good save, Brad!
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Delph you are not very good.
We not very good.
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Delph has got the touch of a rapist.
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3 wins in 27. We are going down aren't we!
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This is piss poor.
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Milk turns faster than Vlaar
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Albrighton looks like he hasn't played for a very long time
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Sounds pretty much the same as last week! Not sure what KEA does, Bennett too lightweight, Delph just very average, Holman overhitting passes. We are going to be one down here very soon unless someone gets a grip
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And Benteke scores, I tempted fate thank god!
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I fucking hate Delia Smith
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Benteke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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thank fuck
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Who'd take a draw now?
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Yesssssssss
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Every time Delph goes near the ball he looks suddenly surprised.
GET IN!!!!
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Delph
Oh gosal......
great finish big man!!!
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Brilliant! Benteke
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Get in
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3 wins in 27. We are going down aren't we!
No doubt about it,being dominated at home by Norwich.
Errr scratch that we great,get in.
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Fookin get innnnnnnn! Benteke! First goal vital.
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Sent the keeper the wrong way.
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Great movement and cool finish.
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That first touch from Benteke was lovely.
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Attaboy, Chris! Get in!
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Now get Delph off for Ireland or anyone else please.
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Still against the run of play, couldn't give a flying one! Come on!!
VILLA VILLA VILLA!
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Who'd take a draw now?
:-[
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Terrible challenge Bennett.
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Our Bennett booked.
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UNBELIEVABLE BENTEKKERS.
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Some good work by Gabby to make sure it stuck in the build up. Great movement and finish from Benteke
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come on Villa. confidence now ,play it around. Been awful up to the goal and I was worried
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That is why he deserves to start though, Benteke carries genuine threat and presence. Gabby did his bit in the build up too, and lovely ball from Bennett.
We need to just be a lot, lot better in the middle of the park.
Bad challenge that. No need.
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Albrigton you cannot fucking tackle.
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Fantastic finish from someone who is supposedly low on confidence.
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We fed a striker!
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Albrigton you cannot fucking tackle.
Albrighton, you cannot.... add in all footballing qualities here. Never seen a player go backwards so fast.
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Some good work by Gabby to make sure it stuck in the build up. Great movement and finish from Benteke
It was a great bit of hold up play by Gabby.
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Our passing has been awful today, leaves us with too much work to do, always a yard short
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Take Albrighton off please.
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albrighton been dire. get Bent on for Albrighton .
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Delph, Bennett, KEA and Albrighton are all fucking awful at the moment.
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Albrighton is having another stinker, doesn't cut it for me, needs to be replaced
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Our midfield doesn't seem to offer anything in attack or defence.
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Gabby seems to lack in confidence severely, he runs at defenders, closes them down, but his final ball/shot is always poor
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Albrighton and Delph for Ireland and Westwood for me. Get Gabby wide, Benteke on his own up and Ireland and Westwood in the middle to give some support.
Where is Holman!?
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We seem a good yard off the pace today
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Benteke is the only one doing anything decent.
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Ireland and Bannan need to be on that pitch, Delph and Albrighton are possession black holes.
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Gabby needed to be more alive there.... great flick from Benteke
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Goal seems to have calmed us down, but todays games been really, really poor. Neither teams are gunna have much to shout about this season
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benteke best player by miles
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Play Westwood he cannot possibly do worse.
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benteke best player by miles
Without a shadow of a doubt.
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Add Holman into the fucking shit pot.
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Good chance from Bene again.
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We may as well just play 7-0-3 and whenever our defenders get the ball they can just twat it up to Benteke.
At least if we don't have a midfield, they can't go so far as actively making things worse, this lot are a liability.
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You can see why he has had so many chances since he signed, his movement is excellent in the box.
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Add Holman into the fucking shit pot.
Frankly the whole midfield.
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Add Holman into the fucking shit pot.
Completely forgot he was playing until this post
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kEA been shocking too
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The entire midfield has been awful and a couple should be pulled at halftime.
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Add Holman into the fucking shit pot.
Frankly the whole midfield.
There is no balance there and hasn't been since Milner left. We need someone similar to him
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Fuck me.
KEA and Delph are having the worst 45 of a centre mid partnership I can remember in a Villa shirt. Awful, awful, awful....
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Excellent work that by Benteke on the replay.
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For crying out loud, Gabby instead of Bent, and Delph in the team.
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Benteke has done very well, the rest of the outfield players not so much. Delph and El-Ahmadi have been terrible.
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Ireland and Bannan need to be on that pitch, Delph and Albrighton are possession black holes.
This, our passing has been dire
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Add Holman into the fucking shit pot.
Completely forgot he was playing until this post
Didn't Holman supply the cross for the goal?
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Please no more Delph second half. Please, please please!
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For crying out loud, Gabby instead of Bent, and Delph in the team.
Would the ball have stuck to Bent as it did to Gabby in the build up to the first goal?
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Add Holman into the fucking shit pot.
Completely forgot he was playing until this post
Didn't Holman supply the cross for the goal?
Thought it was Bennett?
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Norwich don't know how to handle Benteke, I'd love to see him and Bent up top and see what happens
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Delph only won that free kick because his touch was crap
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Please no more Delph second half. Please, please please!
Indeed. Delph has to come off.
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If there is 1 lesson in the first half, get the ball in the box for the big beast.
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Norwich don't know how to handle Benteke, I'd love to see him and Bent up top and see what happens
Like this, but much much less.
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Unlucky Bene. Not hard enough for a goal but just a little too hard for Gabby.
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Add Holman into the fucking shit pot.
Completely forgot he was playing until this post
Didn't Holman supply the cross for the goal?
Thought it was Bennett?
Holman but te defence was shite
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Well I'm pleased we're infront and Benteke was good. However we were rubbish and the entire midfield was fucking dreadful and a couple should be hooked. There is no reason on earth why Delph is in front of Ireland.
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January cannot come fast enough midfield though. Sell Bent and buy 2 big, hard, strong midfielders. A bit like that Tettey for them, but better. 8 million on each, and get the side more solid FFS.
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Albrighton and delph have to go off and kEA not far behind them.
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Shocking game for the neutral.
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Shocking game for the neutral.
Im glad ;)
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Best player in the first half has to be............. GUZAN what a save!
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January cannot come fast enough midfield though. Sell Bent and buy 2 big, hard, strong midfielders. A bit like that Tettey for them, but better. 8 million on each, and get the side more solid FFS.
Solid is one thing, but we need to keep the ball and create chances with possession. The way to do that is a form of three in midfield, almost any version would do, and play Ireland/Bannan/both.
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In a crap game between two poor teams low on confidence I'd say Norwich have been more creative but haven't been able to finish, whereas we've looked pretty dismal except for Guzan and Benteke but have stuck away the one clear cut chance we made.
We've given the ball away so much it's untrue. But what's most alarming is that the general quality of our players seems so low.
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Benteke by far the best player , but yes we owe Brad for that one.
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For me KEA can't play his own game because he is constantly worrying about Delph.
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Add Holman into the fucking shit pot.
Completely forgot he was playing until this post
Didn't Holman supply the cross for the goal?
Thought it was Bennett?
Holman but te defence was shite
Yeah someone posted that it was Bennett but I thought it was Holman especially as he was first to Benteke to celebrate.
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Delph, Albrighton, Holman and KEA have all been awful. I'm more patient with the latter two though, Albrighton has never shown anything since his first 6 months for the club.
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Westwood cannot be worse than Delph. Him and Ireland for Albrighton and Delph for me. Pull Gabby to the right, go with 1 up with Holman and Gabby getting forward as much as they can.
Then Ireland, Westwood and KEA all in proper centre mid roles.
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can we use 4 subs for this game please ?
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How many chances does Albrighton need? Fucking awful, as is Delph.
Marc off, Bent on, Gabby out in Albrightons position.
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Westwood cannot be worse than Delph. Him and Ireland for Albrighton and Delph for me. Pull Gabby to the right, go with 1 up with Holman and Gabby getting forward as much as they can.
Then Ireland, Westwood and KEA all in proper centre mid roles.
Id go with that .
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4-4-2 doesn't work either it really doesn't.
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Norwich take the ball off our midfield with such ease it's embarrassing, the only thing that makes it worse is our first option is to give it back to them.
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Westwood cannot be worse than Delph. Him and Ireland for Albrighton and Delph for me. Pull Gabby to the right, go with 1 up with Holman and Gabby getting forward as much as they can.
Then Ireland, Westwood and KEA all in proper centre mid roles.
Id go with that .
Makes sense to me.
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4-4-2 doesn't work either it really doesn't.
Indeed. It's so obvious, it's been obvious for years, but you continue to see it. I don't get it.
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It's very frustrating we constantly get out numbered in midfield.
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The bare minimum expectation I have of a Paul Lambert team is that they can pass a football to a team mate and string together a sequence of such passes. No fucking chance in that half.
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If Lambert can't see it now he never will Albrighton, Delph, Bennet just not Prem standard, we are very lucky to be in front,Benteke is causing them problems, if only we had the players to give him better service.
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No changes dammit.
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Oh for a clean sheet... pleeeeeeez
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Benteke did well there and a decent cross.
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Benteke must be a dream for a winger. He is always there in the box getting something on it. Bent and he could be brilliant if given the chance.
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Benteke must be a dream for a winger. He is always there in the box getting something on it. Bent and he could be brilliant if given the chance.
Id go with that .. seems to be a bent/benteke argument all the time . Think its more of a Bent/Gabby to be honest.
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How easily did Holt go down there? What a ******.
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That was criminal from Holt.
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holman ffs
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Bennett you fucking idiot.
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Holman today.... very poor on the whole.
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Our final ball is so poor. It's consistently the same problem every game I've seen so far. Bennet sent off.
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bennett ffs
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oh piss off.
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No Bennett is off.
Fuck.
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We're down to 10 men, Bennett held him back.
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That's so stupid. Both bookings really daft.
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Great down to 10 men
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thats torn it
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we cant be getting sent off for that .. stupid
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Oh well at least it won't be 4-4-2 anymore.
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Something so fucking silly to be sent off for too. Canny from their man to wrap his arm so it would look bad whatever the situation. Fucking awful.
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How many times can one club shoot themselves in the foot in 2.5 years.
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Gabby for Lichaj.
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If Bennett can't see that was an idiotic decision he should get a massive fine.
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I think we're in trouble
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Cannot believe he was sent off for that. Surely the ref should have just had a word in his ear.
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Our final ball is so poor. It's consistently the same problem every game I've seen so far. Bennet sent off.
and soon as holman over hits it , bennett gets sent off 30 seconds later. Thats what happens. Passing is shocking.
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How many times can one club shoot themselves in the foot in 2.5 years.
Not sure you needed that decimal point.
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And that red card was always going to happen after his yellow, struggling to keep up, both mentally and physically.
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Bennett was done by a clever bit of play because the guy hooked his arm before starting to run round him. End result was Bennett was always going to look like he had pulled him back.
2 fouls for a red card. Poor.
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This half is gonna be a tough watch, I think.
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Undoubtedly, another ref to Dowd and he might have got a final word in the ear.
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Delph has to come off, he does not do anything at all except for fuck everything up.
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This half is gonna be a tough watch, I think.
It unfortunately always is, these days.
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certainly nervous watching at the minute
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Would have preferred Gabby to go wide for Albrighton. Need to make some changes in midfield now
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Would have preferred Gabby to go wide for Albrighton. Need to make some changes in midfield now
Same here. His pace more useful than Albrightons... erm...
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I don't think I'm going to watch the remainder of this. Fun it ain't.
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I feel sick.
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I don't think I'm going to watch the remainder of this. Fun it ain't.
At least we have a decent side to come back up with....
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Should have kept Gabby on, on the wing surely. We'll be playing on the break now.
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I don't think I'm going to watch the remainder of this. Fun it ain't.
Same. Going to do something productive instead!
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Should have kept Gabby on, on the wing surely. We'll be playing on the break now.
Makes sense doesn't it -especially with how poor Albrighton has been on the right and Holman being better that side.
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Clocks taking its time.
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How has Herd got a booking? Dowd is a fucking twat. Can't stand that ******. GRrrrrr.
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Guzan saves us again. Fucking Vlaar pay attention.
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ffs Vlarr you idiot
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Well done Guzan.
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well If we concede nxt ten mins , we will go on and lose this.
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Herd was shoved, twice then, while the ball was in the air by Bassong. Dowd looking right at it just let it go. Such a twat.
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Worst ref ever.
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Staffordshire Red bastard, polishes his card before he comes to our place, looking for it all afternoon and Herd will be next.
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squeaky bum
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Please take Delph off.
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His decision to not send off Vidic is probably the most important in recent history for us. Win that cup against United and never know what might have been.
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Holte End: "You're too fat to referee".
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Just waiting for the inevitable now.
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heres Bent
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Well played Christian, very well done.
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Bent on for Benteke. Weird when we need someone to hold the ball up on their own.
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This is definitely not a game for Bent. We look like a 10-man team when he plays in a full team!
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Bent on then.
Will have to work his bollocks off for me to justify coming on for the big man.
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Well played Herd.
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Strange decision.
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Matter of time, Delph loses the ball again.
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What Bent's meant to do up there on his own his beyond me. He's not exactly known for his hold-up play.
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Holman looks dead on his feet.
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Who would you bring on in Centre mid though? Ireland and Bannan are too attacking and is Westwood too inexperienced for this situation?
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Holman looks dead on his feet.
Like the club for the last 2 years
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I would have Westwood for Holman and push Delph out wide a bit. Need to try and shore it up somehow!
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If only we had an outlet on the break.... like I dunno say... Gabby's pace ffs
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Guzan has been our best player by a mile this season. Never thought I'd ever be writing that.
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Weimann? Interesting again, but you can't say we don't need his energy.
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Taking Gabby off even stranger decision now he's replaced Benteke.
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Looks like another sub. Westwood?
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well done Herd . I like him in games like this
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Go on Andreas.
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Looks like another sub. Westwood?
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No Weimann
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I will be amazed if we can hang on like this for another 15 mins. Delighted and amazed.
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Great save Brad again.
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Great save guzzie
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Guzan!
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GGGUUZZZAAANNNNNNNN
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Didn't realise Weimann was now a full international. Well done him.
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Guzan has been a beast today.
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From the state Holman looks in, struggling to jog off the pitch, you'd think he'd been playing a game of football today.
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Come on Villa...
ulp, fuck that.
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great defending.. what the fuck was albrighton doing
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Of course it was coming, fuck off.
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ffs
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Vlaar.
But then they score when we fall asleep at the corner.
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feck.
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Oh dear, fully deserved, we are in a lot of trouble I think and I don't just mean this game
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Holman shuts down every short corner option every time. He wasn't there to do it, and they score from one. Brilliant.
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C**ts. Can't withstand that amount of pressure indefinitely. Got to hang on to a point now. Absolutely vital we do that.
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Bollocks. Criminal Villa. Only Guzan was alive then.
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We'll be lucky to get something from this now.
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That's us fucked
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We have the worst midfield in the league, Delph and Albrighton are absolutely dreadful.
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Never seen us give the ball away so many times. The midfield is criminally bad now. Criminal.
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We are the worst team I have seen in a long, long time.
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We have the worst midfield in the league, Delph and Albrighton are absolutely dreadful.
Yep, agree, it will take us down unless Lambert does something about it in January. One of the worst in the league...
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Fucking horse shut!
Been coming though, poor team selection, poorer performance so far, silly mistakes, strange subs.
But, we go again, I suppose.
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It doesn't help that we try and play 4-4-2 which doesn't fucking work.
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We have the worst midfield in the league, Delph and Albrighton are absolutely dreadful.
The defence and attack aren't much better.
A neutral fan watching this could be forgiven for thinking this was a game between two mid-table Championship clubs.
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We are playing Norwich as if we're Celtic in Barcelona. Did the second half at Southampton really fuck up the team that outplayed Newcastle and Swansea so much? What's happened to our passing game?
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Unless we sign some quality in January in midfield, we will go down for certain.
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This game is very reminiscent of last season.
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We are down to ten men chaps remember
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Hoolihan of Norwich is better than all of our midfield put together
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Dowd lenient there.
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Delph & Albrighton are awful.
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Hoolihan of Norwich is better than all of our midfield put together
If he was playing for us we'd be calling him shit.
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We get worse and worse with every game.
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Herd was lucky to stay on the pitch for that tackle in the build up to Holt's chance...
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I will be amazed if we hang on for the draw here
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We're so shit it's unbelieveable. Fortunately Norwich are not much better.
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We are down to ten men chaps remember
We were pretty shit well before then.
Maybe we'd have held on with an 11th player, but our midfield hasn't strung a set of passes together in weeks, Bennett being on the pitch doesn't change that. We're a very poor side.
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Weimann did well then, we almost had the ball fall for us.
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Delph shouldn't be in this squad.
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We're so shit it's unbelieveable. Fortunately Norwich are not much better.
This.
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Weimann did well then, we almost had the ball fall for us.
Wowee.
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WE ARE PlAYING WITH 10 MEN FFS
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Thank god for Guzan, Vlaar and Herd in this game. What a thing to be saying about a home match against bloody Norwich
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Has Bent touched the ball yet?
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WE ARE PlAYING WITH 10 MEN FFS
Yep, what an idiot Bennett was getting sent off, just adds to the crap on show
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thank fuck. If that had gone in . Think our season might have been over.
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WE ARE PlAYING WITH 10 MEN FFS
I know, its so unfair. Especially when the 10 are so shit.
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WE ARE PlAYING WITH 10 MEN FFS
Yep, what an idiot Bennett was getting sent off, just adds to the crap on show
I agree but you can't blame the rest of them for hanging on
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Unless we sign some quality in January in midfield, we will go down for certain.
I said this weeks ago and got ridiculed and berated for it.
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Our problem is that we've sold our best players and not replaced then.
The players we bought lately gave mostly been low-ish fee, low wages championship types.
Being forced down that road we have a pathetically weak squad. That is the fault of the witless chairman and his boy wonder sidekick, who seem to think this route will turn us into Ajax rather than an actual Championship side
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WE ARE PlAYING WITH 10 MEN FFS
Yep, what an idiot Bennett was getting sent off, just adds to the crap on show
I agree but you can't blame the rest of them for hanging on
True John, but it is still our fault collectively! Oh well, pretty dire whatever mate
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WE ARE PlAYING WITH 10 MEN FFS
Yes but we weren't in the first half. Ten men or not all of the midfield have been embarrassing.
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thats a foul on Bent
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WE ARE PlAYING WITH 10 MEN FFS
Yep, what an idiot Bennett was getting sent off, just adds to the crap on show
I agree but you can't blame the rest of them for hanging on
We weren't any better with eleven and were lucky to be in front.
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Unless we sign some quality in January in midfield, we will go down for certain.
I said this weeks ago and got ridiculed and berated for it.
Yes, because you were telling us we were relegation certainties after four games of the season
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Our problem is that we've sold our best players and not replaced then.
The players we bought lately gave mostly been low-ish fee, low wages championship types.
Being forced down that road we have a pathetically weak squad. That is the fault of the witless chairman and his boy wonder sidekick, who seem to think this route will turn us into Ajax rather than an actual Championship side
so youre saying we are a championship side Paulie?
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No, I'm saying that if you replace really good players with cheap championship players, you end up with a dreadfully weak squad, which is what we have.
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so youre saying we are a championship side Paulie?
I'd say so. Norwich were all over us even before the sending off. We're shit, really shit, and I'm sick of it.
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WE ARE PlAYING WITH 10 MEN FFS
Yes but we weren't in the first half. Ten men or not all of the midfield have been embarrassing.
The midfield still had 4 players in it after the red card and were still awful.
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As has been sited on here the midfield is lightweight.
I don't actually think playing Ireland and or Bannan would have changed much.
Lambert probably thought that with Delph, Ireland and CNZ we had enough quality because they looked good 2-3 years ago at other clubs. Add Bannan and Albrighton who looked very promising 2 years ago and he bought 3 others.
Fact is we have to play 5 in the middle of the park (not 4) and I am not sure what the best combo is.
If I am being really honest other than KEA and Holman I don't think any of the others are good enough and/or have the right attitude even for a bottom 6 team. Most of them have had more than enough chances over the last 18 months to prove otherwise and they haven't delivered!!
Well done to Guzan, Vlaar, Benteke and Herd today.