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Heroes & Villains => Villa Memories => Topic started by: BegbieAV on April 12, 2012, 06:31:33 PM
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I don't think we have had a black keeper, so this is my all black Villa team.
RB Earl Barrett, LB J Lloyd Samuel, CD Ugo Ehiogu, CD Paul McGrath, RM Ashley Young, CM George Boateng, CM Nigel Reo Coker, RM Ian Taylor, ST Dwight Yorke, ST Dion Dublin. Can you do any better?
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David James for goal keeper
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Tayls in CM instead of the legend, with Young and Daley on the wings. Gabby instead of Dube. Imagine as a defender having to face Gabby, Yorke, Daley and Ash?
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You can't mention race on here or you get accused of racism ::)
Paul McGrath
Not fully black.
Gabby
Not fully black.
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Not fully black?????
Absolute classic.
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Yeah he said all black team.
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Somebody pull the plug on this prick please.
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You can't mention race on here or you get accused of racism ::)
Paul McGrath
Not fully black.
Gabby
Not fully black.
The troll has come out from under his bridge again.
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v439/Stormhawk/DoNotFeedTroll.jpg)
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I'm not trolling.
McGrath and Gabby are not black, they are mixed race (half white, half black.)
Simple as.
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We could do a Heroes and Villains Troll First XI. Starting with ACWilliams in goal.
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Offensive thread......no place for this nonsense here
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I'm not trolling.
McGrath and Gabby are not black, they are mixed race (half white, half black.)
Simple as.
Are you for fucking real?
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What is the point of this thread?
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Offensive thread......no place for this nonsense here
Whats offensive about it?
As an aside we were discussing in the pub the game against Everton (?) where we had nine black players. Can you name them? Winner gets a biscuit.
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Small, Blake, Daley, Dalian, Yorke, Barrett, Regis, God, and Mortimer. Probably completely wrong but I really want that biscuit.
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I'm not trolling.
McGrath and Gabby are not black, they are mixed race (half white, half black.)
Simple as.
Are you for fucking real?
It's not hard mate.
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Small, Blake, Daley, Dalian, Yorke, Barrett, Regis, God, and Mortimer. Probably completely wrong but I really want that biscuit.
I think we had someone else in instead of Regis, cant mind who.
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If it's the game i'm thinking of i'm sure Regis scored.
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That's pretty strong proof he played I suppose.
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We could do a Heroes and Villains Troll First XI. Starting with ACWilliams in goal.
Wouldn't he be the manager? He was determined to become the first disabled premier league manager or some such if I recall. Or was it the first virgin premier league manager? I forget.
Those were the days!
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That's pretty strong proof he played I suppose.
Searched it out on matchbase. Daley also scored, which I had completely forgotten about. That game was over 20 years ago!
http://home.aland.net/bolin.jakobsson/villamatches/1991-92.pdf
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So from that link only seven of the players then, perhaps I'm thinking of a different match but I remember the papers making a big thing of it at the time, whatever the opposition.
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Mark Blake and Bryan Small were playing i think.
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Pointless thread and "not fully black" comment just sums it up.
Anyone on here "fully white"?
Can we also check to see thread starter is not TRS-T in another guise?
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Mark Blake and Bryan Small were playing i think.
Yes, according to that link, McGrath, Barratt, Small, Blake, Daley, Regis, Yorke started. Maybe Mortimer and Ugo came on?
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Pointless thread and "not fully black" comment just sums it up.
Anyone on here "fully white"?
Can we also check to see thread starter is not TRS-T in another guise?
Or his BNP handler...
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It lists who were used as subs as well. Seems we didn't use a sub that game. And by the looks of it Mortimer had just left as his last game for us was the previous one.
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What? Dennis is BLACK!?
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Pointless thread and "not fully black" comment just sums it up.
Anyone on here "fully white"?
Can we also check to see thread starter is not TRS-T in another guise?
Do you not understand that Gabby is half white?
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Pointless thread and "not fully black" comment just sums it up.
Anyone on here "fully white"?
Can we also check to see thread starter is not TRS-T in another guise?
It isn't. TRS-T is Handsworth Wood.
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Has this suddenly turned in to a LFC board ??
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Has this suddenly turned in to a LFC board ??
Are you calling the people posting on here racists? Because I'd be interested in finding out why you think that.
If you can't see a difference between this thread and what happened at Liverpool, where someone was insulted due to their race, then I'm surprised. Presumably the MOBOs are racist in the music industry too, going by that principle?
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Do you not understand that Gabby is half white?
You can not be half white or half black or half yellow for that matter. A human being is born as a full person and all of us are many different shades. No two skin colours are exactly same.
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Presumably the MOBOs are racist in the music industry too, going by that principle?
Not disagreeing with your other comments however IMO MOBO's are racist.
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Do you not understand that Gabby is half white?
You can not be half white or half black or half yellow for that matter. A human being is born as a full person and all of us are many different shades. No two skin colours are exactly same.
Can you be half English then? Or half Scottish? Or half French?
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Pointless thread and "not fully black" comment just sums it up.
Anyone on here "fully white"?
Can we also check to see thread starter is not TRS-T in another guise?
Do you not understand that Gabby is half white?
or half black...... :-[
point is boys, THE ONLY COLOURS THAT MATTERS ON THIS FORUM IS CLARET N BLUE!!! ;D
lock the thread now!! 8)
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Has this suddenly turned in to a LFC board ??
Are you calling the people posting on here racists? Because I'd be interested in finding out why you think that.
If you can't see a difference between this thread and what happened at Liverpool, where someone was insulted due to their race, then I'm surprised. Presumably the MOBOs are racist in the music industry too, going by that principle?
The point I am making......like several other posters is that I am baffled as to why on earth someone would take the time to post about whether someone is more black than white........does it matter ??
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Tony Daley.Class player that bloke.Ian Taylor.Goes to most games,home and away,legend.
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I've read the first page of this crappy thread. Wot about Dalian? I've no interest in the agenda of this nasty little troll. Just, If we're celebrating villa players, what a player. And as 'my' thread says, I've always liked Tony(Daley). And Sid. And Ian. And Dennis, Martin L, JPA and of course, God.
Love to absolutely all the villa players, past and present X
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Not a lot of stuff posted about on this board does matter, why should this be any different?
Are we that sensitive about race that we can't recall a game where we fielded more black players than any other team before?
Other than the fear that it will descend into something unsavoury what is the problem here?
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Are we that sensitive about race that we can't recall a game where we fielded more black players than any other team before?
Couple of points. Black is not race and if the sentiment here was to celebrate the fact that we helped and advanced acceptance of footballers who happened to be black than well and good however it should not even be an issue these days. it's not a freak show. The best 11 should be on the pitch every week whatever shade their skin colour.
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Has this suddenly turned in to a LFC board ??
Are you calling the people posting on here racists? Because I'd be interested in finding out why you think that.
If you can't see a difference between this thread and what happened at Liverpool, where someone was insulted due to their race, then I'm surprised. Presumably the MOBOs are racist in the music industry too, going by that principle?
The point I am making......like several other posters is that I am baffled as to why on earth someone would take the time to post about whether someone is more black than white........does it matter ??
Tbf though it's just a bit of harmless fun.
You know like how people post their World XI, European XI, African XI, Left footed XI, Teenage XI, 6 foot plus XI etc.
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Didn't know all these guys were New Zealanders. Well you live and learn. How did they ever avoid becoming rugby players?
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Has this suddenly turned in to a LFC board ??
Are you calling the people posting on here racists? Because I'd be interested in finding out why you think that.
If you can't see a difference between this thread and what happened at Liverpool, where someone was insulted due to their race, then I'm surprised. Presumably the MOBOs are racist in the music industry too, going by that principle?
The point I am making......like several other posters is that I am baffled as to why on earth someone would take the time to post about whether someone is more black than white........does it matter ??
That's not at all the point you made. You said the thread, not a specific post, was 'offensive' and asked whether it was turning into the Liverpool forum, thereby hinting that you found it racist.
I ask again, why is the thread 'offensive'? Pointless, ok you might think so but why 'offensive'? I'm asking out of genuine interest rather than being argumentative here.
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Love to absolutely all the villa players, past and present X
Including Hodge, Unsworth and Downing? Surely not!
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Didn't realise some of you guys where so sensitive. I have been a Villa fan since 1968 and have loved all Villa players (maybe not Hodge) no matter what race or colour they have been. Im sorry if anyone has been offended, I meant the thread to be a bit of fun. Maybe the threat of the drop is getting to few of you. UTV
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What is the point of this thread?
To give another reason for someone to slag the manager.
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I can only duck out of the race debate but the rogue apostrophe in the thread title has massively offended me.
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Not as much as the missing one in your username offends me. ;)
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Love to absolutely all the villa players, past and present X
Including Hodge, Unsworth and Downing? Surely not!
If they're on the park...
But ok, I take your point about Hodge.
And Mrs Unsworth prevented him from really making his mark.
But I am so pissed off about Downing it's not true.
So love to all the villa players except...
You see it really doesn't work.
Can we just agree about not the wankers?
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Not as much as the missing one in your username offends me. ;)
Darts!
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Pointless thread and "not fully black" comment just sums it up.
Anyone on here "fully white"?
Can we also check to see thread starter is not TRS-T in another guise?
Do you not understand that Gabby is half white?
Which half?
When Gore Vidal said that it was better to be too clever by half than too stupid by three quarters, he wasn't kidding around.
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Pointless thread and "not fully black" comment just sums it up.
Anyone on here "fully white"?
Can we also check to see thread starter is not TRS-T in another guise?
Do you not understand that Gabby is half white?
Which half?
When Gore Vidal said that it was better to be too clever by half than too stupid by three quarters, he wasn't kidding around.
His maternal half.
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What is the point of this thread?
To give another reason for someone to slag the manager.
McLeish out hes Ginger !
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Couple of points. Black is not race and if the sentiment here was to celebrate the fact that we helped and advanced acceptance of footballers who happened to be black than well and good however it should not even be an issue these days. it's not a freak show. The best 11 should be on the pitch every week whatever shade their skin colour.
Absolutely.
One day we'll also not worry about their sexuality as well, although I still dread the reception the next openly gay footballer will get, and they are out there, simple statistics tell you that.
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Great idea whom do you suggest as manager.
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ok. don't lock the thread then.... :(
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What is the point of this thread?
To give another reason for someone to slag the manager.
McLeish out hes Ginger !
Half Ginger?
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Didn't realise some of you guys where so sensitive. I have been a Villa fan since 1968 and have loved all Villa players (maybe not Hodge) no matter what race or colour they have been. Im sorry if anyone has been offended, I meant the thread to be a bit of fun. Maybe the threat of the drop is getting to few of you. UTV
One step behind the "some of my best friends are black" defence. Also includes the classic "politician's apology". Are you David Cameron by any chance?
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What is the point of this thread?
To give another reason for someone to slag the manager.
McLeish out hes Ginger !
Half Ginger?
That takes the biscuit now!
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Dan Carter?
Oh sorry he's a real All Black.
It's McLeish's fault that Gabby isn't fully black ;) (alledgedly).
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I can only duck out of the race debate but the rogue apostrophe in the thread title has massively offended me.
Says he with one missing!
Just noticed I haven't got one either! Must be the system.
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Like Scooby said the only colour that matter's is Claret and blue.
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Like Scooby said the only colour that matter's is Claret and blue.
What about the white shorts ?
Also not forgetting yellow, in the lion rampant and one star ( always to remain one star ? ) on the badge.
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Like Scooby said the only colour that matter's is Claret and blue.
What about the white shorts ?
What about the incorrect use of the apostrophe?
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Personally I dont like the black sock's.
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If they're on the park...
But ok, I take your point about Hodge.
And Mrs Unsworth prevented him from really making his mark.
But I am so pissed off about Downing it's not true.
So love to all the villa players except...
You see it really doesn't work.
Can we just agree about not the wankers?
Why have you started posting in blank verse?
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We've not had a scrap in the memories section before. First time for everything.
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Like Scooby said the only colour that matter's is Claret and blue.
What about the white shorts ?
Also not forgetting yellow, in the lion rampant and one star ( always to remain one star ? ) on the badge.
always preferred the late 60s blue lion.... and the latter days blue shorts myself.... white is not a colour that sets us apart from the rest.... would loved to have seen us win big ears in claret n blue tbh {but not complaining} :)
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Like Scooby said the only colour that matter's is Claret and blue.
What about the white shorts ?
What about the incorrect use of the apostrophe?
wow.... bored today, tonight, tomorrow??? :-X
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If they're on the park...
But ok, I take your point about Hodge.
And Mrs Unsworth prevented him from really making his mark.
But I am so pissed off about Downing it's not true.
So love to all the villa players except...
You see it really doesn't work.
Can we just agree about not the wankers?
Why have you started posting in blank verse?
Just inspired, C&Dave.
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Personally I dont like the black sock's.
I do and I don't so I wear a white one and a black one also wear brown underpants.
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I've not been on here for a few days.
What the fuck happened?!
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It's a discussion about colour. As we are claret and blue we are a half breed entity! However some people have pointed out that we are complete "infusion" as there are bits of yellow, white and some black. So as you can see everyone is confused.
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I thought how about we agree the important colours are whatever colours they used for the lettering `The Doug Ellis Stand`.
Then I realised I dont know the colours, probably because whenever I walked down Witton Lane I would subconsciously avert my eyes down.
So I just googled and checked. It appears the letters as you approach from Witton island are claret with a blue surround but the letters as you approach from the Holte Pub are just claret.
Whats all that about ? Why the inconsistency and blatant two faced approach to stand lettering ? Does Doug know about this ?
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Not fully black.
It's a tricky one, especially when you've left your Dulux colour card in B&Q. How about :-
James
Barrett, Mcgrath, Ehiogu, Chan
Young (A), Taylor, Reo-Coker, Gervais
Dublin, Marx (K)
Whilst preserving the essential blackness of the team, it's still possible to find room for an oriental, a marxist and an arsehole from Reading.
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GK Given
RB Hughes
LB Staunton
CB McGrath
CB Nicholl
RM Ireland
CM Townsend
CM Houghton
LW McParland
CF Dougan
CF Cascarino
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GK Given
RB Hughes
LB Staunton
CB McGrath
CB Nicholl
RM Ireland
CM Townsend
CM Houghton
LW McParland
CF Dougan
CF Cascarino
Not too shabby, but where is Danny Blanchflower?
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I was doing that Blacks of Europe team in a hurry. Put him in for Stephen Ireland. There are probably better choices than Cascarino and Hughes I could've thought of too.
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Not as much as the missing one in your username offends me. ;)
Haha, it's not possible to have one on the new version of the site. I used to have one the previous board, those were the days :-( McLeish Out!
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Would you like me to add one for you?
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Would you like me to add one for you?
If you could, I would give you a cyber hug. But I am sure I asked before but it wasn't possible.
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Odd:
The following errors occurred when trying to save your profile:
The selected username/display name has already been taken.
Do you have another account?
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Ah. there's a registered user "Olof'sBeard" with 218 posts.
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Offensive thread......no place for this nonsense here
Whats offensive about it?
As an aside we were discussing in the pub the game against Everton (?) where we had nine black players. Can you name them? Winner gets a biscuit.
Mcgrath,Blake,Daley,Regis,Atkinson,Small,Yorke,Barrett,Ehiogu???
Don't think that's correct, but thought it was worth a go!
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Offensive thread......no place for this nonsense here
You sound like Edward Tattsyrup. ''We'll have no racism here, this is a local shop for local people''
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Saw the title and assumed it was going to be a comprehensive list of New Zealanders to have played for Villa.
BTW, that Everton away game, it was definitely eight. How do I know despite the passage of time? Because the following Monday at work in West Bromwich, while walking through the factory, the natives were all frenziedly yelling eight at me and holding up eight fingers. I was confused at first because we won two-nil, but it was only later on that someone else told me what they were refering to.
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Ah. there's a registered user "Olof'sBeard" with 218 posts.
I think there's a chance that could be my account too. I had some password issues a while back, I've made a right shambles of it all!
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If I delete that account, I could add the apostrophe. We'd have to confirm that it is your first. PM me with your 'real' name and E-Mail address(es) and I'll see if it marries up.