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Title: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on January 29, 2012, 07:12:42 PM: 1-0 home win.

Keane (41)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on January 29, 2012, 07:20:42 PM: 0-1 to QPR.

Our confidence will be on the floor after today. Also, we generally tend to lose if I predict us to win!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 29, 2012, 07:23:38 PM: 1-1, or 0-2. Not looking forward to it all. I'm normally an optimistic fecker but just fed up with it all right now.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: petehughesvilla on January 29, 2012, 07:29:53 PM: probably 2 steak and kidney at h/t and large donner on way home.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on January 29, 2012, 07:44:11 PM: 4-5,

Bent 8, 12, 28, 45+3,

Barton 85, 86, 87, 88, DJ Campbell 90+8
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on January 29, 2012, 07:48:08 PM: On MOTD last night Colin Wanker said this is a winnable game for QPR. Can't see it myself, even with their change of manager. 3-1 to us, with Barton getting sent off for them
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 29, 2012, 08:03:23 PM: 2-1 win for us. Think we'll win from a goal down aswell.

About time we won at VP anyway especially with Man. City the game after this one.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on January 29, 2012, 08:36:43 PM: I think our confidence will be low after today, their confidence should be up. New manager and new signings. More misery for mcleish, I hope I'm wrong
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Left Side on January 29, 2012, 08:37:36 PM: 1 - 1 with Bent and Helgurrson getting the goals.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on January 29, 2012, 08:41:58 PM: 1-3 to them. Keane with ours. Helgurson, whoever takes the gifted pen and Young. L.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TimTheVillain on January 29, 2012, 09:27:23 PM: Under 29,000.

1-2 QPR
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: James on January 29, 2012, 09:35:55 PM: Too hard to call! We could either come back hurting after today and royally rip them a new one (optimistic view) or do our usual home game thing and not really give a shit either way and lose (pessimistic view), therefore I'll say a draw (realistic view?).
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: phantom limb on January 29, 2012, 09:52:47 PM: We're bloody winning this one 1-0.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Greg N'Ash on January 29, 2012, 09:56:25 PM: 0-0
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lobsterboy on January 29, 2012, 09:59:48 PM: 2-1 Villa

Keane and Bent for us, SWP for them (he always scores against us!)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villasjf on January 29, 2012, 10:00:58 PM: I just dont care any more my season ticket seat will be empty.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ez on January 29, 2012, 10:03:46 PM: Well obviously we'll concede so i'm going 1-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: placeforparks on January 30, 2012, 08:13:21 AM: villa 1 qpr 3.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on January 30, 2012, 08:39:13 AM: we will win. QPR are muck. 3-1.

Would bring Collins back in, not sure why he was dropped after his best performance of the season against Wolves.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on January 30, 2012, 09:59:59 AM: 4-0 Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on January 30, 2012, 10:03:52 AM: Quote from: brontebilly on January 30, 2012, 08:39:13 AM
we will win. QPR are muck. 3-1.

Would bring Collins back in, not sure why he was dropped after his best performance of the season against Wolves.
He wasn't dropped,he was injured
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: orkneyvilla on January 30, 2012, 10:13:08 AM: From a historical perspective I can't remember QPR winning (at VP) too often in the League. There was the year of the Mcmahon missed pen (1-2) but other than that I'm sure we've mostly had the upper hand (apart from the league cup a couple of years ago). Don't think Hughes has been overly successful here as a manager either with Man City or Fulham. At least we seem to be scoring goals again. I think they will come for a point and get it. 1-1 for me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: James on January 30, 2012, 11:15:00 AM: I think they'll come believing that they can get all three points. What team wouldn't fancy a trip to VP these days?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on January 30, 2012, 11:19:27 AM: I dont rate QPR at all , or at least until Hughes maybe gets some players in.

so 1-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 30, 2012, 11:42:38 AM: 1-0 Villa win with Clark scoring in the 6th minute.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on January 30, 2012, 12:47:39 PM: Suffering with Insomnia? Be at Villa Park on Wednesday.

1-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VILLA MOLE on January 30, 2012, 12:59:34 PM: Quote from: orkneyvilla on January 30, 2012, 10:13:08 AM
From a historical perspective I can't remember QPR winning (at VP) too often in the League. There was the year of the Mcmahon missed pen (1-2) but other than that I'm sure we've mostly had the upper hand (apart from the league cup a couple of years ago). Don't think Hughes has been overly successful here as a manager either with Man City or Fulham. At least we seem to be scoring goals again. I think they will come for a point and get it. 1-1 for me.

i remember a trevor lucifer Francis Hatrick when he was nearly 40 down there
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on January 30, 2012, 01:00:23 PM: 1-1 Gabby.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on January 30, 2012, 01:01:29 PM: Lose this fucker and i am afraid the manager should resign
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Newquay_AVFC on January 30, 2012, 01:05:59 PM: 2-0 Villa, got a feeling were going to put a decent run together in the league. Gabby and Ireland with the goals.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: orkneyvilla on January 30, 2012, 01:18:32 PM: 'i remember a trevor lucifer Francis Hatrick when he was nearly 40 down there ' - aaargh - my eyes ! my eyes ! Oh yeah Villa Mole - take back everything I said then. Having said that, it must also be said that God might have been seeing three of him (TF) that day and just marked the wrong one. I seem to remember us putting together a pretty good run after that including a 1-0 win on Luton's plastic pitch and playing most of the season with three centre halfs. Happy times GT mkI.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on January 30, 2012, 01:23:31 PM: Us 5, Shepherds Bush Rangers 1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on January 30, 2012, 01:42:34 PM: I hope I'm wrong but can only see a dreadful 0-0 coming
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: andyh on January 30, 2012, 01:47:15 PM: It will be cold
There will be a low crowd
It will be very subdued

1-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villain at Hert on January 30, 2012, 02:18:07 PM: 2-2. They've got a new manager to impress and we can't defend. Gonna be ugly.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: IRISHPHIL on January 30, 2012, 02:19:39 PM: think he needs to look at enda stevens or eric lhajec at left back , as warnock needs time away from action to regain confidence
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on January 30, 2012, 02:58:20 PM: Tough one, but I reckon 2-1 Villa, Bent and Keane for us and some bloke I don't know for them.

I think there will be a reaction, Keane adds a lot to us going forward in terms of awareness and craft (I am shocked about just how much to be fair) and it will help us break through and nick a couple of goals.

There is no way our back 4 can be as bad as Sunday again. No way. Please......

(It is going to be horrible isn't it!)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on January 30, 2012, 02:59:28 PM: Quote from: IRISHPHIL on January 30, 2012, 02:19:39 PM
think he needs to look at enda stevens or eric lhajec at left back , as warnock needs time away from action to regain confidence

Oh and IrishPhil, that is the best spelling of Lichaz I have seen yet. Almost a completely different player altogether!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pedro25 on January 30, 2012, 03:03:47 PM: I fancy trying N'Zogbia at left back as mentioned elsewhere.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on January 30, 2012, 03:14:31 PM: Quote from: ozzjim on January 30, 2012, 02:59:28 PM
Quote from: IRISHPHIL on January 30, 2012, 02:19:39 PM
think he needs to look at enda stevens or eric lhajec at left back , as warnock needs time away from action to regain confidence

Oh and IrishPhil, that is the best spelling of Lichaz I have seen yet. Almost a completely different player altogether!

Lichaj.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: levico on January 30, 2012, 03:21:23 PM: Another home match that we should win - so clearly we won't. QPR will probably sneak a narrow win in front of our lowest PL gate for 10 years. AM will blame the ref and will not resign the next day. Faulkner will pledge RL's support for AM but depressingly he'll mean it.

Apart from that it will be a brilliant night!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on January 30, 2012, 04:23:58 PM: AMcL needs a thumping win here so we can start dreaming of rising up the table to offset the disappointment of being out of the Cup.

Should we lose this one, it could be shaping up as a pretty bleak end of season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Vanilla on January 30, 2012, 04:35:14 PM: Will probably win 2-1. But the reaction by the fickle types will just result in the rearranging of the following collection of words 'cracks, the, over, papering.'
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 30, 2012, 05:48:35 PM: We'll probably be 4-0 up as the clock strikes 90 minutes and lose 5-4.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on January 30, 2012, 06:06:45 PM: Quote from: villasjf on January 29, 2012, 10:00:58 PM
I just dont care any more my season ticket seat will be empty.

This x two - not bothering to make the journey due to various factors including getting off work early, picking up junior, the cost of fuel ................oh and the fact we are shite !
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Clark Five on January 30, 2012, 06:38:03 PM: 3-1 to Villa, after going 1 down to an own goal.
Ireland (2) and Keane get the goals.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on January 30, 2012, 06:41:22 PM: I can see us 2-0 up with 24 minutes to go it ends in a draw. Same old villa story nothing ever changes just constant disappointment for us all.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villanation on January 30, 2012, 07:32:23 PM: Can't see past Villa for this one.

Just can't imagine how QPR could possibly pull a fast one over Villa at Villa park, impossible.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on January 30, 2012, 07:41:14 PM: Cold.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Clark Five on January 30, 2012, 07:42:31 PM: Quote from: Can Bent Be Bettered!?!? on January 30, 2012, 07:41:14 PM
Cold.
The Bovril?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: preston28 on January 30, 2012, 07:47:16 PM: I think the best we can hope for is a draw but I think the reality will be a home loss due to the hangover from Sunday's second half.

Crowd will be the lowest for a league game in years - under 27K.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: luke25 on January 30, 2012, 08:17:59 PM: 7 minutes- Stephen Ireland picks up the ball some 40 yards from goal and plays a delightful ball through to Bent, who manages to beat the off side trap, his first time shot is kept out by a fantastic reflex save by Paddy Kenny only for the ball to fall to the waiting Gabriel Agbonlahor to put the ball into an empty net. ASTON VILLA 1-0 QPR

88 minutes- Jay Bothroyd shields the ball on the by line just in side the Villa area, Warnock keeps a few yards back as Bothroyd desperately tries to turn and attack the Villa goal, Warnock keeps his distance and there is no immediate danger to Villa, mean while on the penalty spot Richard Dunne starts brushing his right foot along the ground repeatedly as if he's pretending to be a bull, he then positions his head down with shoulders arched up and rapidly runs towards Bothroyd, just before he gets to the QPR front man his whole body leaves the ground and he ends up flattening Bothroyd, the referee points straight to the spot. Helguson steps up and lazily rolls the ball into the corner as Shay Given falls the wrong way. ASTON VILLA 1-1 QPR.

90+3 minutes- Aston Villa have a free kick just to the left of the Rangers D, second half substitute Bannan strokes the ball directly into the arms of Paddy Kenny and thats the last of the additional 3 minutes up, Kenny hoofs the ball up field and over the front mens heads, as the ball bounces the Villa keeper calls that he has it, he jumps to claim it but then inexplicably from the left Stephen Warnock dives in to head it clear, both men collide in to each other and the ball bounces behind them, Alan Hutton spotting the danger runs back and jumps over the two men in order to clear the ball but at the same time Warnock has tried to get himself up off the deck, Huttons trailing leg hits Warnocks head and he too falls down with the ball hitting his head and trickling over the line. ASTON VILLA 1-2 QPR
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on January 30, 2012, 08:53:17 PM: David Ireland (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/3740344.stm)

Was anything ever proved?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on January 30, 2012, 08:56:49 PM: 3-0 to Villa.

Brian Little hat trick.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: not3bad on January 30, 2012, 08:59:03 PM: Quote from: James on January 30, 2012, 11:15:00 AM
What team wouldn't fancy a trip to VP these days?

This, but let's hope they rouse themselves. They picked themselves up for the Arsenal league match in midweek when nobody was expecting any kind of decent performance.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on January 30, 2012, 09:01:14 PM: A shitty, uninspiring, arse ugly game of football, that will end in a draw. Both defences shit. Neither that good going forward so probably, 1-1.
Bent for us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Clark Five on January 30, 2012, 09:02:11 PM: The smaller the crowd, the less moaning there will be.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Fin Feds Dad on January 30, 2012, 09:06:52 PM: Free Pie and Coffee to keep out the cold

2-0 to the Villa. (Bent, Ireland)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: usav on January 30, 2012, 09:18:04 PM: Quote from: Dave McLark Five on January 30, 2012, 09:02:11 PM
The smaller the crowd, the less moaning there will be.

Sad but true.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on January 30, 2012, 09:31:04 PM: Quote from: usav on January 30, 2012, 09:18:04 PM
Quote from: Dave McLark Five on January 30, 2012, 09:02:11 PM
The smaller the crowd, the less moaning there will be.

Sad but true.

You should have seen what a mere 13,000 or so used to get up to circa 1968.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Clark Five on January 30, 2012, 11:12:07 PM: Quote from: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on January 30, 2012, 09:31:04 PM
Quote from: usav on January 30, 2012, 09:18:04 PM
Quote from: Dave McLark Five on January 30, 2012, 09:02:11 PM
The smaller the crowd, the less moaning there will be.

Sad but true.

You should have seen what a mere 13,000 or so used to get up to circa 1968.
I did. They could make more racket than 40000 today if they wanted, even if it was 'the board must go'.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: littlevillain on January 30, 2012, 11:21:04 PM: 5-1 villa, and into the top 10.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: hawkeye on January 30, 2012, 11:30:36 PM: QPR will be relishing this, they know our confidence is shot, our home form poor and that the longer the game goes without us scoring the atmosphere will wosen. I cant believe our players are looking forward to this, I think we will get beat. Glad I am not going.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hoppo on January 30, 2012, 11:53:25 PM: Im glad your not going..
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on January 31, 2012, 12:01:44 AM: v FUL - DRAW
* BLA - WON
v WOL - DRAW
v EVE - DRAW

v NEW - DRAW
v QPR - DRAW
* WIG - WON
v MNC - LOST

v WBA - LOST
v SUN - DRAW
* NOR - WON
v TOT - LOSE

v SWA - DRAW
v MNU - LOSE
* BOL - WON
v LIV - LOST

v ARS - LOST
v STO - DRAW
* CHE - WON
v SWA - LOST

v EVE - DRAW
v WOL - WON
v QPR -
v NEW -

It's looking like two more draw's then!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on January 31, 2012, 01:35:38 AM: Quote from: brontebilly on January 30, 2012, 08:39:13 AM

Would bring Collins back in, not sure why he was dropped after his best performance of the season against Wolves.

For the last year the same sentence could have been said about Kweller last season. Collins completely misreading the header for Wolves' second goal was hilariously bad. But Carlos was disappointing at the Library on Sunday so I don't mind who plays. Both and Dunne would all be dropped ideally.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on January 31, 2012, 06:30:21 AM: Quote from: Hoppo on January 30, 2012, 11:53:25 PM
Im glad your not going..

Jesus...how old are you? 5 and a half? My car is bigger than your car.
I am in Phnom Penh and I would love to go to the game!
3-1 to Villa
come on lads!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on January 31, 2012, 07:24:15 AM: And QPR?seriously?since when have they been any good? Funnily enough, the last time I was in England and able to get myself over to see the Villa was in September 2008....I took a Leeds supporting mate to the Carling Cup game before leaving the country...a few weeks before we had given city a tonking in the first game of the season. Sadly, we lost 1-0 to QPR. But in all fairness, they are a bit shit. We are not in the greatest of form at home, but I feel we beat them 3-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Malandro on January 31, 2012, 08:36:25 AM: I overheard a guy talking on the underground about this match, he said roughly "looking forward to this game, two shit teams but we have a bit of spirit"

Fair.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on January 31, 2012, 09:10:02 AM: 2-0 win. Bent x 2.

Given
Lichaj Clark Dunne Stevens
Petrov Gardner
Keane Ireland Gabby
Bent
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on January 31, 2012, 10:05:09 AM: Quote from: Malandro on January 31, 2012, 08:36:25 AM
I overheard a guy talking on the underground about this match, he said roughly "looking forward to this game, two shit teams but we have a bit of spirit"

Fair.

Who did he mean by "we"?

I think we showed plenty of spirit at Wolves, Stoke, Chelsea, etc
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Simon Ward on January 31, 2012, 10:42:43 AM: Pressed wrong button to vote!

Villa win though!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: MAGNAN VILLAIN on January 31, 2012, 10:59:35 AM: Quote from: usav on January 30, 2012, 09:18:04 PM
Quote from: Dave McLark Five on January 30, 2012, 09:02:11 PM
The smaller the crowd, the less moaning there will be.

Sad but true.

You should have seen what a mere 13,000 or so used to get up to circa 1968.

I did, I used to be there in those days, tumbling out of the Aston Social at 2.57pm and straight onto the Holte terraces; such memories .. UTV.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tarzansbrother on January 31, 2012, 03:03:57 PM: So QPR will arrive bouyed by a clutch of new signings and their nearly new manager. Villa on the other hand still banging on about reducing wages and a manager making out a stray elbow was the reason we lost against the Arse. I can easily see another red card for Hutton and Collins/Dunne crashing into players like a bumper car at the back. 2-2 is the best I can see.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: David_Nab on January 31, 2012, 03:04:53 PM: Cisse can play for QPR tomorrow according to his latest Twitter post
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on January 31, 2012, 04:01:53 PM: Quote from: David_Nab on January 31, 2012, 03:04:53 PM
Cisse can play for QPR tomorrow according to his latest Twitter post

foook , I thought we sold him to Liverpool for £20 million .
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on January 31, 2012, 04:06:34 PM: So Sissy and Zamora up front for QPR ( zamora 90,000 a week ) ffs
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Surrey Villain on January 31, 2012, 05:01:25 PM: Quote from: JUAN PABLO on January 31, 2012, 04:06:34 PM
So Sissy and Zamora up front for QPR ( zamora 90,000 a week ) ffs

They'll have practically a new team by the end of the day! Maybe they'll play like they have never met before - just like us!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt C on January 31, 2012, 05:17:23 PM: Samir Carruthers in the first team squad tomorrow.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JJ-AV on January 31, 2012, 05:38:54 PM: Really difficult call.

I think we'll be more of the same, so depends how QPR turn up.

If their new boys all play, who knows what'll happen? If he doesn't put them straight in then I can't see us losing.

2-2, with one goal being a set piece for them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hoppo on January 31, 2012, 05:44:28 PM: Yes.. Carruthers in the squad just seen his tweet. He is overjoyed! This is all I want for the rest of the season. We know were going nowhere till these over paid over rated parasites are off the wage bill. Bring on the kids!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cheltenhamlion on January 31, 2012, 05:55:27 PM: Villa win. 2-1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on January 31, 2012, 06:05:21 PM: Chuffed for Carruthers, always looked decent on the few times I've seen him.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hoppo on January 31, 2012, 06:12:37 PM: Hi Dave. He tweeted something about 'dreams can come true'. We nicked him off Arsenal so he plays the game the right way.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on January 31, 2012, 06:15:54 PM: Quote from: Hoppo on January 31, 2012, 05:44:28 PM
Yes.. Carruthes in the squad just seen his tweet. He is overjoyed! This is all I want for the rest of the season. We know were going nowhere till these over paid over rated parasites are off the wage bill. Bring on the kids!

I completely agree. From the moment Bannan used his first piece of possession to ping a beauty through to Ireland the kids made us look a different outfit on Sunday. They didn't have enough time to make a profound impact, but we looked better and sharper. Much as I like people like Petrov, their time as a first team regular must surely be coming to an end, and the kids have got to step up if we're going to be more exciting as a team. Not more successful, necessarily, just more exciting.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on January 31, 2012, 08:45:53 PM: Not feeling too optimistic on this one. I reckon a low key draw

I'm not sure petrov and Clark is well suited to these sorts of home games. A brave option would be to pair Ireland with one of them, and presumably gabby and cnz wide. I don't think we're good enough to do that though.

Gardner would add more energy and ball winning ability. That would mean Ireland wide again and presumably gabby over cnz.

Would ideally want to get cnz in the side but I'd probably leave him as a sub.

So I reckon

Given - Hutton, dunne, Clark, warnock - petrov, Gardner - Ireland, keane, gabby - bent

Guzan, cuellar, baker, bannan, cnz, heskey, weimann
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hoppo on January 31, 2012, 08:58:03 PM: Monty your on my wavelength..
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Sister of Top Cat on January 31, 2012, 09:33:17 PM: It'll be cold. I hate being cold. I'll be miserable.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on January 31, 2012, 10:21:48 PM: If they (QPR) turn in an OK ish 6 or 7/10 performance and defend reasonably well, I think they'll win.

But them having a load of new signings on the books can go one of two ways, they might be buzzing and looking to make an impression. Or they might struggle to gel and find cohesion.

In which case, both defences might be as bad as each other and we might see a high scoring draw.

Don't think we will though.

0-1 to them, shades of Man Citeh at home in DOL's last season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on January 31, 2012, 11:19:56 PM: I think it is really tough for McLeish to get the balance of our side right in fairness to him, mainly due to having the previous regimes crap and then the Houllier buys which as good as they were, were not fitting to his style.

But there are fundamentals which sit in place. Given, Dunne, Petrov, Bent basically run through the core of the side. For me, home against a side who will defend well, Keane is a must having seen him play twice now. He looks up, finds space and leads well. I wish he was here longer.

So Keane plays. Then it is filling in around them, and for many positions it is either a case of shoe-horning square pegs into round holes, or upsetting fans favourites, or both. And it is a really tough thing to get right. At home, we have to get on the front foot though.

My side would be

Given

Hutton (until Lichaj is ready to play games)
Cuellar
Dunne
NZogbia

Petrov
Clark
Ireland
Keane
Gardner

Bent

The three behind Bent can interchange between being wide without the ball and coming narrow with it, but the idea is that Hutton and NZogbia would give you a lot of attacking width from full back.

Worth a punt, we have lost how many at home.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on January 31, 2012, 11:33:22 PM: Quote from: ozzjim on January 31, 2012, 11:19:56 PM
I think it is really tough for McLeish to get the balance of our side right in fairness to him, mainly due to having the previous regimes crap and then the Houllier buys which as good as they were, were not fitting to his style.

But there are fundamentals which sit in place. Given, Dunne, Petrov, Bent basically run through the core of the side. For me, home against a side who will defend well, Keane is a must having seen him play twice now. He looks up, finds space and leads well. I wish he was here longer.

So Keane plays. Then it is filling in around them, and for many positions it is either a case of shoe-horning square pegs into round holes, or upsetting fans favourites, or both. And it is a really tough thing to get right. At home, we have to get on the front foot though.

My side would be

Given

Hutton (until Lichaj is ready to play games)
Cuellar
Dunne
NZogbia

Petrov
Clark
Ireland
Keane
Gardner

Bent

The three behind Bent can interchange between being wide without the ball and coming narrow with it, but the idea is that Hutton and NZogbia would give you a lot of attacking width from full back.

Worth a punt, we have lost how many at home.

that the issue, no matter what way McLeish tried to configure the midfield we are still going to be unbalanced. Defo would give Nzogbia a shot left back but more than a good chance he will sulk if he is put there. He did well as a wing back at Newcastle a few years back.

Clark has to be in the middle. Keane and Bent are certainties. But Ireland is at his best where Keane plays. You simply cant play Ireland centrally in a 2 man midfield nor Gardner.

Id try something like this but again good chance we will have no width. Could see us keeping the ball well though.

--------------Given
Hutton, Collins, Dunne, Nzogbia
----------------Clark---------------
------Petrov------------Gardner------
-------Keane-----Ireland
---------------Bent-------------
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on January 31, 2012, 11:33:52 PM: Anyone know why all of the other games tomorrow kick-off at 8pm and ours doesn't? Or why there's always a couple of midweek non-tv games that kick-off at 8 and not at the usual 7.45? But never a Villa game. Do you have to play sexy football to start later or what?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 31, 2012, 11:40:27 PM: Quote from: eamonn on January 31, 2012, 11:33:52 PM
Anyone know why all of the other games tomorrow kick-off at 8pm and ours doesn't? Or why there's always a couple of midweek non-tv games that kick-off at 8 and not at the usual 7.45? But never a Villa game. Do you have to play sexy football to start later or what?

Games always used to kick off at 7.30 (except in London, which was 7.45), then post-Hillsborough 15 minutes later became the norm. Now it's either 7.45 or eight, depending on preference, I suppose in the way some clubs play on Tuesday and some Wednesday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 31, 2012, 11:50:33 PM: If Albrighton was fit tommorrow, I'd have left Gabby out for this one but think he'll play so it will probably be the same team as Sunday (although I have a hunch Gardner might start).

Surprised QPR are signing all these strikers, their central defensive options don't look that great to me....Fitz Hall, Clint Hill, Ferdinand, Gabbidon/ Suppose Onouha will probably play there.

Main worry is SWP will have his annual field play against us by simply just running at Warnock whenever he gets a chance.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on February 01, 2012, 12:51:38 AM: God I hope we win. A draw is not good enough. We have the squad to beat these. Not sure if we have the manager to do the job.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VancouverLion on February 01, 2012, 04:00:24 AM: Nervy 2-1 win. Don't care who scores or who plays where as long as win!!!
Can't imagine what it'll be like at Villa Park if we draw again or worse lose.
Badly need to win this, COME ON YOU LIONS!!!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt C on February 01, 2012, 09:21:51 AM: I'd bring N'Zogbia back for this one.

1-1. Bent for us, Cisse inevitably for them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on February 01, 2012, 09:27:44 AM: Let's hope the players don't see it as a case of having nothing to play for anymore. Are they happy enough to challenge for a mid-table finish?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on February 01, 2012, 09:37:17 AM: Quote from: Can Bent Be Bettered!?!? on February 01, 2012, 09:27:44 AM
Let's hope the players don't see it as a case of having nothing to play for anymore. Are they happy enough to challenge for a mid-table finish?

Id be sacked in my job with that attitude
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pedro25 on February 01, 2012, 09:58:32 AM: Collins in for Cuellar only change for me, be nice to see N'Zogbia and Albrighton on the bench though to give us some options.

2-1 Villa, Bent and Bannan.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on February 01, 2012, 10:35:53 AM: Quote from: dave.woodhall on January 31, 2012, 11:40:27 PM
Quote from: eamonn on January 31, 2012, 11:33:52 PM
Anyone know why all of the other games tomorrow kick-off at 8pm and ours doesn't? Or why there's always a couple of midweek non-tv games that kick-off at 8 and not at the usual 7.45? But never a Villa game. Do you have to play sexy football to start later or what?

Games always used to kick off at 7.30 (except in London, which was 7.45), then post-Hillsborough 15 minutes later became the norm. Now it's either 7.45 or eight, depending on preference, I suppose in the way some clubs play on Tuesday and some Wednesday.

What annoys me more is the fact that there's no highlights of tonight's games on the Beeb. Five games last night, another five tonight, but they ran MOTD last night because the top 5 teams were playing, rather than run it tonight to show all 10 games. Almost as bad as ITV. Looks like AVTV or Leeg link after I've thawed out tonight
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt C on February 01, 2012, 11:15:23 AM: Collins and Albrighton both out.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on February 01, 2012, 11:37:51 AM: Quote from: JUAN PABLO on February 01, 2012, 09:37:17 AM
Quote from: Can Bent Be Bettered!?!? on February 01, 2012, 09:27:44 AM
Let's hope the players don't see it as a case of having nothing to play for anymore. Are they happy enough to challenge for a mid-table finish?

Id be sacked in my job with that attitude

As would anyone. Footballers live in a different world to us peasants though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villanation on February 01, 2012, 11:41:50 AM: Can't see how we are not going to win this tonight, QPR and Wolves have to be a couple of the easier sides to take 3 points from and at home, they may have a new manager and they may have made a couple of new signings, even so, I think our lads will want to prove a point tonight, don't think for a minute they will be all despondent and down after the weekend, think we will put in one of the best performances this season tonight.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brian Taylor on February 01, 2012, 12:31:56 PM: If we go two goals up again please keep bent out of defence. I watched the Arse game from the 'Clock End' and was in shock at the way we disintegrated under pressure. Keane and Bent work very well together ably assisted by Gabby and can take any defence apart; as long as they get the ball passed to them. Backpassing to Given to hoof up the pitch in the hope of getting to the forwards is so laughable it is almost pathetic.
We can win tonight if the dustbins like Warnock get stuck in and, perhaps, even move around.
I was ecstatic during up to a few mins into the 2nd half. What were we doing attacking at that stage? Total confusion reigned and we were done for! Please not again! If I can, then the opposition can also see our gaping flaws. I just hope we learnt something from Sunday's game!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on February 01, 2012, 12:53:41 PM: We'll give ourselves every chance if we have a night off from giving penalties away.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Walmley_Villa on February 01, 2012, 12:57:44 PM: I can't make it tonight as working in the Smoke so we will win...

I reckon he will start with the same team as Sunday. Would like to see N'Zog given a run though but at who's expense?

Villa 2 QPR 1 - (Villa 2 up and holding on at the death)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on February 01, 2012, 01:06:20 PM: Not sure whether N'Zog is fit - late fitness test according to Physioroom. (http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php) My guess is he'll start on the bench at best
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Jameson on February 01, 2012, 01:12:56 PM: 3-0 Villa win, Heskey scoring all 3 to answer his critics in the best possible way. We didn't manage to unload him on to any poor fools yesterday did we?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: OasisVillain on February 01, 2012, 01:52:24 PM: I hope we win obviously, we need to but i fear a dour 1-1 draw, Bent for us and Zamora if he plays for them
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Walmley_Villa on February 01, 2012, 02:04:38 PM: Zamora can't play, would have needed to have been signed by 11am yesterday I think. Cisse can however.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Steve kirk on February 01, 2012, 02:50:02 PM: Sadly I predict another home draw, the Arsenal defeat will have affected an already brittle set of players so expect a shaky performance with us just squeezing a 1-1, please let me be wrong.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on February 01, 2012, 03:11:07 PM: Yes, there is little confidence in playing at home or keeping hold of a lead or keeping a clean sheet at the moment but they have to get over it at some point and I think we'll nick this by a goal so... 2 - 1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on February 01, 2012, 03:12:28 PM: After both sides got knocked-out of the cup at the weekend it would have made sense to switch this game to the next cup weekend when both teams will be now idle. The club would have made more money and it would have suited both sets of fans better too. I guess there wasn’t enough turn-around time to organise it after we got dumped out of the cup on Sunday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TimTheVillain on February 01, 2012, 04:18:47 PM: A win is bloody important tonight, takes us up to 8th and away from being a relegation candidate.

Please, leave Heskey at home AM, please.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pooligan on February 01, 2012, 04:22:05 PM: Have read somewhere that Mark Hughes has never won a league match at Villa Park, so in this ever depressing season at Villa Park i take Rangers to win 1-0 with luke young bagging the goal
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: l_mckay on February 01, 2012, 04:38:01 PM: think it will be another dissapointing home draw 1-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: itbrvilla on February 01, 2012, 05:17:55 PM: Home defeat. Bad to worse.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ez on February 01, 2012, 06:10:28 PM: Also saying 1-1 draw.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on February 01, 2012, 06:24:59 PM: Quote from: Brian Taylor on February 01, 2012, 12:31:56 PM
. Backpassing to Given to hoof up the pitch in the hope of getting to the forwards is so laughable it is almost pathetic.

I cant believe how many times they do this . It frustrates the hell out of me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on February 01, 2012, 06:25:49 PM: Quote from: Chris Jameson on February 01, 2012, 01:12:56 PM
3-0 Villa win, Heskey scoring all 3 to answer his critics in the best possible way. We didn't manage to unload him on to any poor fools yesterday did we?

F**k , so Barcalona didnt buy him . DAMN
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on February 01, 2012, 06:26:53 PM: Anybody know why there is no MotD on tonight while there was one last night? :(
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on February 01, 2012, 06:28:45 PM: Quote from: Chipsticks on February 01, 2012, 06:26:53 PM
Anybody know why there is no MotD on tonight while there was one last night? :(

Manchester , Tottenham , chleski and liverpool . The media wanks over them ..
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: hipkiss92 on February 01, 2012, 06:31:39 PM: Quote from: Chipsticks on February 01, 2012, 06:26:53 PM
Anybody know why there is no MotD on tonight while there was one last night? :(

Because Man City Man Utd Chelsea Spurs and Liverpool all played yesterday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on February 01, 2012, 06:33:25 PM: No motd cos The giants are not sorry GIANTS are not playing
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: timeoutbigbar on February 01, 2012, 06:38:47 PM: I'd love to see the BBC try and justify that as unbiased.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TheTimVilla on February 01, 2012, 06:39:05 PM: Quote from: pooligan on February 01, 2012, 04:22:05 PM
Have read somewhere that Mark Hughes has never won a league match at Villa Park, so in this ever depressing season at Villa Park i take Rangers to win 1-0 with luke young bagging the goal
And we haven't won at home for 3 months. In fact, we've only won 3 home league games all season...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: timeoutbigbar on February 01, 2012, 06:57:05 PM: Villa v QPR: Given, Hutton, Dunne, Cuellar, Warnock, Clark, Ireland, Petrov, N’Zogbia, Bent, Keane. Subs: Guzan, Bannan, Weimann, Baker, Gardner, Heskey, Lichaj.

No Gabby, strange.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tuscans on February 01, 2012, 06:58:31 PM: Team:

Given, Hutton, Cuellar, Dunne, Warnock, Clarke, Petrov, Ireland, N'Zogbia, Keane, Bent.

Agbonlahor not fit enough to make the bench
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eric woolban woolban on February 01, 2012, 06:58:44 PM: Agbonlahor out with a hamstring injury.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eric woolban woolban on February 01, 2012, 07:00:08 PM: Ron Hulse and Cisse up front for QPR. Macheda on the bench. Watch him come off the bench and score.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: bertlambshank on February 01, 2012, 07:01:46 PM: Quote from: Chipsticks on February 01, 2012, 06:26:53 PM
Anybody know why there is no MotD on tonight while there was one last night? :(
The BBC contract for midweek matches states they need a minimum maybe 6 fixtures.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on February 01, 2012, 07:22:31 PM: Quote from: bigad82 on February 01, 2012, 07:01:46 PM
Quote from: Chipsticks on February 01, 2012, 06:26:53 PM
Anybody know why there is no MotD on tonight while there was one last night? :(
The BBC contract for midweek matches states they need a minimum maybe 6 fixtures.

There was one on last night with only 4 fixtures
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Small Rodent on February 01, 2012, 07:33:48 PM: Hopefully 2 new defenders for QPR will be to our favour.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Q.P.R. Pre-Match Thread
Post by: richl on February 01, 2012, 07:35:38 PM: Quote from: Chipsticks on February 01, 2012, 07:22:31 PM
Quote from: bigad82 on February 01, 2012, 07:01:46 PM
Quote from: Chipsticks on February 01, 2012, 06:26:53 PM
Anybody know why there is no MotD on tonight while there was one last night? :(
The BBC contract for midweek matches states they need a minimum maybe 6 fixtures.
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There was one on last night with only 4 fixtures