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Title: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on January 09, 2012, 12:33:33 PM
0-0 draw.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mouse Potato on January 09, 2012, 12:39:07 PM
Agreed... can't see past a 0-0 either
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on January 09, 2012, 12:42:27 PM
3-2

Keane with late winner
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on January 09, 2012, 12:52:06 PM
Draw written all over it. As I missed the Norwich game I've seen us lose five home games in a row, presumably for the first time ever. We've got a good record against Everton, although there do seem to be lots of draws between us. I'll go for 1-1. Keane coming off the bench to cancel out an early Distin header.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on January 09, 2012, 12:53:00 PM
We'll win, 2-1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on January 09, 2012, 12:55:46 PM
We'll win, 1-0.

Bent (pen)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: preston28 on January 09, 2012, 12:58:05 PM
I think a 2-2 draw.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TimTheVillain on January 09, 2012, 12:58:19 PM
1-1

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Simon Ward on January 09, 2012, 01:03:13 PM
1-0 scrappy affair!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on January 09, 2012, 01:05:52 PM
2-0 with a dominating performance, with everyone magically getting behind McLeish once again until the next defeat.


Baines OG '37, Bent '79
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on January 09, 2012, 01:06:17 PM
1-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: andyaston on January 09, 2012, 01:08:21 PM
I think they are playing away at Spurs on Wednesday night this may improve our chances.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on January 09, 2012, 01:11:54 PM
Villa 6 Everton 2 (Bent 2, Ireland, Heskey 3)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on January 09, 2012, 01:14:25 PM
                                  Guzan

                Cuellar       Dunne        Clark

                         Petrov     
Albrighton                         Ireland           N'Zogbia

               Keane                     Agbonlahor
                                   Bent

 ;)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on January 09, 2012, 01:16:44 PM
                                  Guzan

                Cuellar       Dunne        Clark

                         Petrov     
Albrighton                         Ireland           N'Zogbia

               Keane                     Agbonlahor
                                   Bent

 ;)

If only Maz  . i like that
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on January 09, 2012, 01:20:30 PM
Their form is as indifferent as ours but I think we will be more up for this one.

2 - 1 win, Bent and Keane for us, Fellaini for them from a corner no doubt.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on January 09, 2012, 01:22:14 PM
So hard to predict this one as God knows where our form is right now:-

Bolton away - played well and won
Liverpool home - played crap (although I maintain the 1st half wasn't too bad) and lost
Arsenal home - played well and lost
Stoke away - played OK and drew
Chelsea away - played well and won
Swansea home - played awful and lost
Bristol away played well (against lesser opposition) and won

Unlike Arsenal, I don't think Everton are good enough to beat us if we play well, yet the above shows we ain't good enough to play crap and not get beat.  It all says 'draw' to me, but I'm gonna go positive and predict a good showing and 2-1 win, with theirs being against the run of play due to our own fuck up at the back.     

And Bent to get one!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mazrim on January 09, 2012, 01:39:10 PM
Jagielka is out for them isnt he? That will hurt them, if we can capitalise of course.

They seem to get a lot of penalties and we are giving them away in every match it seems so expect that little scrag end Baines to score one from the spot in a 2-1 victory for us.

Bent and Ireland.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: KRS on January 09, 2012, 01:53:57 PM
Both sides are inconsistent, so I'll go for 1-1 draw.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 09, 2012, 02:16:58 PM
Last time Everton beat us in a league game Dixie Dean was in their youth side.

2-1 Villa. Bent & Clark for us, defensive error for them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on January 09, 2012, 02:20:37 PM

Guzan
Hutton Dunne Collins Warnock
Albrighton Petrov Clark NZogbia
Ireland
Agbonlahor

Marshall/Given
Gardner
Bannan
Delfouneso
Keane
Lichaj
Delph
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on January 09, 2012, 02:20:59 PM
Both sides are inconsistent, so I'll go for 1-1 draw.

This would be my starting position, that or we just sneak it 2-1. They are as difficult to read as we are as you say
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 09, 2012, 02:24:00 PM
I can only see a draw if I'm honest.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on January 09, 2012, 02:24:15 PM

Guzan
Hutton Dunne Collins Warnock
Albrighton Petrov Clark NZogbia
Ireland
Agbonlahor

Marshall/Given
Gardner
Bannan
Delfouneso
Keane
Lichaj
Delph

Bent not even on the bench?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on January 09, 2012, 02:40:35 PM
Bent not even on the bench?

Sold.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on January 09, 2012, 03:06:42 PM
Everton are awful, okay so are we mainly but we're better than them.
3-0 Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: maidstonevillain on January 09, 2012, 03:09:34 PM
Everton are awful, okay so are we mainly but we're better than them.


I think you mean less awful.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: taylorsworkrate on January 09, 2012, 03:12:05 PM
Will we be brilliant, ala Chelsea away?

Will we be awful, ala Swansea home?

Neither. We'll be average and draw 1-1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 09, 2012, 03:14:00 PM
Everton very rarely win at Villa Park. Villa very rarely win at Villa Park.

Draw.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 09, 2012, 03:14:39 PM
Everton are awful, okay so are we mainly but we're better than them.
3-0 Villa.

Did your lot manage to injure any of them?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 09, 2012, 03:28:10 PM
2-0 to the good blokes. Bent from a Zog crossand Keano off the bench late on set up by the Gabster.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on January 09, 2012, 03:30:24 PM
Everton are awful, okay so are we mainly but we're better than them.
3-0 Villa.

Did your lot manage to injure any of them?

They might have hurt Neville's feelings but that's about it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villanation on January 09, 2012, 03:38:25 PM
Going for a Villa win, 2-0

Goals from Petrov and the Behemoth Gabrial Agbonlahor, may his bionic legs transform and regenerate even greater power and more speed than the fastest known thing to mankind.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: luke25 on January 09, 2012, 03:41:57 PM
1-2 Gabby for us, Drenthe and Baines for them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on January 09, 2012, 03:56:28 PM

Did your lot manage to injure any of them?

Fellaini went off with hair strain.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rick_avfc on January 09, 2012, 04:07:39 PM
                                  Guzan

                Cuellar       Dunne        Clark

                         Petrov     
Albrighton                         Ireland           N'Zogbia

               Keane                     Agbonlahor
                                   Bent

 ;)

I do like this but cannot see it happening.
Ive gone for a 0-0 draw.  Everton to out play us for 70% of the game.  We will struggle to get 2 shots on target.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Steve kirk on January 09, 2012, 04:09:16 PM
If we could nick it a lot of pressure would be lifted but for me its a nailed on draw probably 1-1, exciting times eh.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on January 09, 2012, 04:39:29 PM
Us one them nil. And just to bring it in line with a certain other thread on here, it'll be a hard working Irishman who scores the winner. :)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: phantom limb on January 09, 2012, 05:23:48 PM
1-0 Villa. A shit win, but a win nevertheless.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 09, 2012, 06:35:26 PM
1-1 draw, N'zogbia.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: MarkM on January 09, 2012, 06:40:59 PM
1-2 defeat.

Last time I put us down to win (Swansea) we lost.

So have us down for a defeat
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on January 09, 2012, 06:52:42 PM
Grim. 1-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on January 09, 2012, 06:54:29 PM
Mark Clattenburg has been appointed referee.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villanation on January 09, 2012, 07:14:34 PM

Did your lot manage to injure any of them?

Fellaini went off with hair strain.

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VancouverLion on January 09, 2012, 07:33:53 PM
2-1 Bent 31, Clark 83. Baines 42 freekick from a Warnock foul.
Keane to come on with 5 mins to go and hit the crossbar with his first touch  ;)

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: MarkM on January 09, 2012, 08:14:43 PM
2-1 Bent 31, Clark 83. Baines 42 freekick from a Warnock foul.
Keane to come on with 5 mins to go and hit the crossbar with his first touch  ;)



Before getting injured and us having to pay his wages for the rest of his loan spell
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on January 09, 2012, 08:16:51 PM
4-0 to us.

Bent will get all four in a victory as unexpectedly comprehensive as it will be welcome.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on January 09, 2012, 08:16:56 PM
Am I alone in thinking that taking Keane on loan is a big mistake?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on January 09, 2012, 08:17:40 PM
No.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 09, 2012, 08:17:59 PM
Am I alone in thinking that taking Keane on loan is a big mistake?

Nope, i'm not a fan of the move.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on January 09, 2012, 08:18:16 PM
Is it worth starting a thread for discussion?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villan1975 on January 09, 2012, 08:19:07 PM
Am I alone in thinking that taking Keane on loan is a big mistake?
Hell no.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 09, 2012, 08:21:22 PM
Is it worth starting a thread for discussion?

Not sure, it's been talked about a lot in the transfer thread. It's where I voiced my opinion.
As it looks like it is happening i'm guessing he deserves a thread of his own?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on January 09, 2012, 08:22:05 PM
I'll brave the backlash.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on January 09, 2012, 08:25:06 PM
I've always been a Robbie Keane fan, but he's past his sell by date. Those 2 month loans are pointless. He won't fit in our side either. We need to start using Bent more and getting the best out of our marquee player. Formwise he's been average this season.
If we do drop him for a few games then I'm more than happy for Gabby to take up the mantle. I'd also like to see more of our kids from the bench.

We don't need Keane. Irelands now starting to play well and if we need a linkman between midfield and attack, he can be it. As could BB, or even Charles.

Keane's also got no pace any more, so I don't think he could play wide anymore as he did on occasion for Spurs.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: l_mckay on January 09, 2012, 08:55:00 PM
A boring 1-1 draw i think
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on January 09, 2012, 11:03:59 PM
Seems most likely to be a fairly uninspiring draw, with a run of generally easier games to follow. Definitely a winnable game if we play at our better levels though. Jagielka and Arteta (permanently) are big misses for them.

I think the back 6 outfield players are pretty settled, and it's then a question of which 4 from 5. Gabby has to play for me, and Ireland gives us something noone else can (save Bannan, who is behind him in the pecking order).

On recent form, I'd say a strong case for MA and CNZ either side as up at Chelsea, but dropping Bent is a brave move, and would generate unhelpful atmosphere (though it may be the right choice tactically)

I don't much fancy Bent up top in a 433 again though. So I reckon we could play Ireland plus one winger, and Gabby and Bent up top. Again, plenty of doubts about that, but I don't think any of the options is without a lot of uncertainty. I'd probs opt for CNZ as the winger, on the left, but that's harsh on Alby.

I like Mazrim's team; it's how Barca have started playing, but I think it might be a little tactically sophisticated for us, to say the least
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Greg N'Ash on January 10, 2012, 08:06:28 AM
can't call this one at all really. two clubs who lost key players in the summer and weren't allowed to replace them and have been all over the place performance wise as a consequence

2-2
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on January 10, 2012, 09:13:03 AM
After Scholes on Sun, and that French bloke last night. I wouldn't be at all surprised on Sat to see Peter Withe come off the bench and shin the winner for us. :o
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Duncan Shaw on January 10, 2012, 09:16:02 AM
I'm with the Zogman, for some reason an unexpected bollocking good home win feeling is in my water, so I'll go for a 4-1, as I can't see us keeping a clean sheet, with Bent, Zog and Ireland amongst the goals.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Vanilla on January 10, 2012, 12:13:17 PM
There have been some exciting games between us two in the last few seasons so I would hope for a high scoring game (with us the winners hopefully).

There are sad similarities between Villa and Everton. Both have a core of a team that have been virtually ever present for a number of seasons. In that time both have had their best players cherry picked, whilst being unable to replace those sold effectively (the Bent signing being an anomaly on Villa's part). And now both are having to rely on short term loan deals to cover shortcomings in their respective squads.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villanation on January 10, 2012, 12:23:33 PM
There have been some exciting games between us two in the last few seasons so I would hope for a high scoring game (with us the winners hopefully).

There are sad similarities between Villa and Everton. Both have a core of a team that have been virtually ever present for a number of seasons. In that time both have had their best players cherry picked, whilst being unable to replace those sold effectively (the Bent signing being an anomaly on Villa's part). And now both are having to rely on short term loan deals to cover shortcomings in their respective squads.

Huge, enormous game, I can see goals, excitement, incident, this will have everything.  8)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Vanilla on January 10, 2012, 12:27:36 PM
There have been some exciting games between us two in the last few seasons so I would hope for a high scoring game (with us the winners hopefully).

There are sad similarities between Villa and Everton. Both have a core of a team that have been virtually ever present for a number of seasons. In that time both have had their best players cherry picked, whilst being unable to replace those sold effectively (the Bent signing being an anomaly on Villa's part). And now both are having to rely on short term loan deals to cover shortcomings in their respective squads.

Huge, enormous game, I can see goals, excitement, incident, this will have everything.  8)

The weird thing is that with our home form the way it is, I would prefer to be playing them away.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cheltenhamlion on January 10, 2012, 12:39:55 PM
I reckon a draw in this one.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pedro25 on January 10, 2012, 12:40:54 PM
Guzan
Hutton Cuellar Dunne Warnock
N'Zogbia Petrov Clark Ireland
Bent Gabby

Subs Marshall, Alby, Bannan, Gardner, Collins, Delph, Keane

That was the front 4 i expected from the start of the season.  I had thought the central midfield would be Makoun and Delph though.

2-1 Villa, Bent and Ireland.  Heitinga for the Toffees.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Fernando Partridge on January 10, 2012, 02:39:41 PM
Villa 3-1 Everton
Clark to score again Bent and Gabby
Drenthe wil get a consolation

They play wed against Spurs and are missing Jagielka, Hibbert, Osmans, Colemans, Timmy Cahill and Rodwell!



Given
Hutton
Clark
Dunne
Warnock
Albrighton
Petrov
Delph
Ireland
Agbonlahor
Bent
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LamBeast on January 10, 2012, 07:03:53 PM
I reckon a draw in this one.

Amazing conclusion!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on January 10, 2012, 07:21:27 PM
If Bent doesn't start we will win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on January 10, 2012, 07:25:13 PM
-------------Guzan
Hutton-Cuellar-Dunne-Warnock

---------Petrov-Clark

Albrighton-Ireland-N'Zogbia

-------------Gabby

We have been better defensively with Guzan in goal and have played better without Bent, so easy choice for me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on January 11, 2012, 12:48:09 AM
Mcleish don't seem confident Cuellar will be fit for Everton. And no way will he drop Bent ....
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villadelph on January 11, 2012, 02:50:19 AM
Coming off a late Wednesday fixture with Spurs I can't see this lot being ready to compete come Saturday. I think we'll make this game interesting but certainly come out with the win, 3-2 to the mighty.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cheltenhamlion on January 11, 2012, 08:42:36 AM
I don't see a goalfest on Saturday. Just for Randy O'Neill, I think this will be a dull draw that both teams are happy to take.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on January 11, 2012, 08:51:19 AM
If Bent doesn't start we will win.

Amazing how you'll take Ireland who, over the vast majority of games for Villa, has generally been a lazy fucker who's contribution amounts to very little, over Bent.

A couple of ok games and you have him over Bent, who has contributed more through scoring goals.

Just in case you weren't sure, scoring goals is the idea of football. You have to score more than the other team if you want to win. It's not about a player having 3 or 4 good games in 2 seasons.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on January 11, 2012, 09:10:26 AM
If Bent doesn't start we will win.

Amazing how you'll take Ireland who, over the vast majority of games for Villa, has generally been a lazy fucker who's contribution amounts to very little, over Bent.

A couple of ok games and you have him over Bent, who has contributed more through scoring goals.

Just in case you weren't sure, scoring goals is the idea of football. You have to score more than the other team if you want to win. It's not about a player having 3 or 4 good games in 2 seasons.

I'd like to see how many minutes they've both played for us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Steve R on January 11, 2012, 09:29:20 AM
.......
Amazing how you'll take Ireland who, over the vast majority of games for Villa, has generally been a lazy fucker ....

If you want to diss Ireland or discuss laziness, please use the Stewart Downing thread.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt C on January 11, 2012, 12:57:24 PM
2-2. Entertaining draw.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Le Lapin on January 11, 2012, 02:27:08 PM
Depends on which team turn up, if the team that played Chelsea turns up we'll have a narrow win. If the Swansea team turns up, then we will be beaten, but not by much because their forwards are struggling as much as ours.
Bent to score and he'll celebrate by revealing his "Villa Forever!" tattoo across his back to the cameras.

 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on January 11, 2012, 05:40:22 PM
2-1 Villa. It will be tight and nervy but an appearance by Robbie Keane at some point might lift the crowd and the players a bit.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: manic-road on January 11, 2012, 06:32:51 PM
Win 2-1

Keane to score the winner
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on January 11, 2012, 09:45:57 PM
Everton have worked hard tonight at Tottenham and with a lot of players not available the weekend think we will out play them. Especially when they tire second half. 2-0 Gabby Collins .....
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on January 11, 2012, 10:19:38 PM
Distin got taken off injured too, meaning they had heitinga and Duffy at centre back. Moyes also doesn't seem to trust Drenthe much.

I'm feeling like this is a really good time to play them. The fans really need to get behind the team, and that seems to require some encouragement.

Interesting to see what team he plays. I think Ireland, CNZ, gabby and bent as the front four, probably in a 442. But I'm pretty unsure about what our best side is for games like this.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on January 11, 2012, 10:20:02 PM
If Bent doesn't start we will win.

Amazing how you'll take Ireland who, over the vast majority of games for Villa, has generally been a lazy fucker who's contribution amounts to very little, over Bent.

A couple of ok games and you have him over Bent, who has contributed more through scoring goals.

Just in case you weren't sure, scoring goals is the idea of football. You have to score more than the other team if you want to win. It's not about a player having 3 or 4 good games in 2 seasons.

It's amazing how you think the sun shines out of Bents arse based on last seasons form, yet you dismiss Ireland on last seasons form???

Ireland has looked quality, hungry and committed in the last few weeks the complete opposite to Bent.

So based on recent form and not last season, yes, I pick Ireland over Bent.

Ow and Ireland has as many goals as Bent since Bent came back from injury.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jimmy Smash on January 11, 2012, 10:47:36 PM
                                           M   Guzan

             Hutton           Collins             Dunne               Warnock

Albrighton            Ireland          Clark                   Petrov                  N Izog

                                              Agbonlahor

                                    Keane            Bent
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: luke25 on January 11, 2012, 11:00:40 PM
                                           M   Guzan

             Hutton           Collins             Dunne               Warnock

Albrighton            Ireland          Clark                   Petrov                  N Izog

                                              Agbonlahor

                                    Keane            Bent
eh?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on January 11, 2012, 11:07:08 PM
                                           M   Guzan

             Hutton           Collins             Dunne               Warnock

Albrighton            Ireland          Clark                   Petrov                  N Izog

                                              Agbonlahor

                                    Keane            Bent

I like this. Slightly over crowded  but let's hope no one notices! No way Everton will get past over front 3 and 5 midfielders. I am going to try this sort of line up for my FL team this week as well.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jimmy Smash on January 11, 2012, 11:07:15 PM
Let's face it, it's our best bet.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 11, 2012, 11:13:22 PM
If Bent doesn't start we will win.

Amazing how you'll take Ireland who, over the vast majority of games for Villa, has generally been a lazy fucker who's contribution amounts to very little, over Bent.

A couple of ok games and you have him over Bent, who has contributed more through scoring goals.

Just in case you weren't sure, scoring goals is the idea of football. You have to score more than the other team if you want to win. It's not about a player having 3 or 4 good games in 2 seasons.

It's amazing how you think the sun shines out of Bents arse based on last seasons form, yet you dismiss Ireland on last seasons form???

Ireland has looked quality, hungry and committed in the last few weeks the complete opposite to Bent.

So based on recent form and not last season, yes, I pick Ireland over Bent.

Ow and Ireland has as many goals as Bent since Bent came back from injury.

Ireland's form last season? What was that like, then? Do you mean when he was throwing strops and refusing to move house here, or when he was out clubbing and being ill at Newcastle?

And Ireland's got as many goals as Bent since Bent came back from injury? All of a few weeks ago. One swallow does not make a spring, especially not in the case of Ireland.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 11, 2012, 11:16:03 PM
Let's face it, it's our best bet.

Au contraire:



                                              Guzan

             Hutton           Collins             Dunne               Warnock

================= TRENCH =================

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00000000000000000000 MINEFIELD 000000000000000000000000000

Albrighton            Ireland          Clark                   Petrov                  N Izog

                                              Agbonlahor

                                    Keane                  Bent


Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: KRS on January 11, 2012, 11:16:56 PM
Everton have worked hard tonight at Tottenham and with a lot of players not available the weekend think we will out play them. Especially when they tire second half. 2-0 Gabby Collins .....
They'll be coming to VP expecting at least a draw and probably see this game as a good chance to take all 3pts. Its going to be hard work for us if they get an early goal and sit back. Similarly if we get an early goal then that will leave them open for counter attack so it could end up being quite comfortable if they fall into that trap.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on January 11, 2012, 11:21:01 PM
Let's face it, it's our best bet.

Au contraire:



                                              Guzan

             Hutton           Collins             Dunne               Warnock

================= TRENCH =================

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00000000000000000000 MINEFIELD 000000000000000000000000000

Albrighton            Ireland          Clark                   Petrov                  N Izog

                                              Agbonlahor

                                    Keane                  Bent




I am so pleased we have Collins to get the ball out to the front 8!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villadelph on January 12, 2012, 01:29:56 AM
can't see us losing to the tossees now. their going to be down on their luck and flat out exhausted. we need to score early and often, and put them away. We're at home McLeish attack, attack, attack. Guzan will be up for it going up against fellow American, and friend Tim Howard. Let's get it, 3-1 villa.

                    Guzan

Hutton   Collins    Dunne   Warnock

Albrighton     Petrov      N'Zogbia

          Gabby       Ireland

                   Bent

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on January 12, 2012, 06:32:11 AM
If Bent doesn't start we will win.

Amazing how you'll take Ireland who, over the vast majority of games for Villa, has generally been a lazy fucker who's contribution amounts to very little, over Bent.

A couple of ok games and you have him over Bent, who has contributed more through scoring goals.

Just in case you weren't sure, scoring goals is the idea of football. You have to score more than the other team if you want to win. It's not about a player having 3 or 4 good games in 2 seasons.

It's amazing how you think the sun shines out of Bents arse based on last seasons form, yet you dismiss Ireland on last seasons form???

Ireland has looked quality, hungry and committed in the last few weeks the complete opposite to Bent.

So based on recent form and not last season, yes, I pick Ireland over Bent.

Ow and Ireland has as many goals as Bent since Bent came back from injury.

Ireland's form last season? What was that like, then? Do you mean when he was throwing strops and refusing to move house here, or when he was out clubbing and being ill at Newcastle?

And Ireland's got as many goals as Bent since Bent came back from injury? All of a few weeks ago. One swallow does not make a spring, especially not in the case of Ireland.

Paulie, you know exactly what I mean, I was responding to criticism of Ireland.

Shall I change my mind so I fall in line with everybody else?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on January 12, 2012, 08:23:58 AM
If Bent doesn't start we will win.

Amazing how you'll take Ireland who, over the vast majority of games for Villa, has generally been a lazy fucker who's contribution amounts to very little, over Bent.

A couple of ok games and you have him over Bent, who has contributed more through scoring goals.

Just in case you weren't sure, scoring goals is the idea of football. You have to score more than the other team if you want to win. It's not about a player having 3 or 4 good games in 2 seasons.

It's amazing how you think the sun shines out of Bents arse based on last seasons form, yet you dismiss Ireland on last seasons form???

Ireland has looked quality, hungry and committed in the last few weeks the complete opposite to Bent.

So based on recent form and not last season, yes, I pick Ireland over Bent.

Ow and Ireland has as many goals as Bent since Bent came back from injury.

Ireland's form last season? What was that like, then? Do you mean when he was throwing strops and refusing to move house here, or when he was out clubbing and being ill at Newcastle?

And Ireland's got as many goals as Bent since Bent came back from injury? All of a few weeks ago. One swallow does not make a spring, especially not in the case of Ireland.

 
Shall I change my mind so I fall in line with everybody else?

No of course not, but you could try and go a whole day without slagging off Bent.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TimTheVillain on January 12, 2012, 08:50:08 AM
Bent = Needs service

Ireland = Needs to feel wanted

I've re-thought this :

2-1 Villa
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on January 12, 2012, 09:54:38 AM
Right... So I should just change my opinion on Bent for just one day Clampy?

I have my views on Bent, which will change when he starts showing Abit more effort and commitment to the team. I also accept its not solely down to him, the team and Manager are also responsible.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Virgil Caine on January 12, 2012, 09:58:36 AM
I predict that Everton will play conservatively as against Spurs and play with a disciplined two rows of four (as per Swansea) McLeavemealone needs to go to a Plan B as Plan A evidently does not work whilst playing at home.
                                     Given or Guzan
                                   
                                Dunne Collins Cueller

                     Herd  N Zogbia Petrov Ireland Clarke
                               
                                     Gabby Bent

I know playing three at the back is risky but we need to be more imaginative at home and push the fullbacks up- just a thought.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Simon Ward on January 12, 2012, 10:05:25 AM
I suppose the big question is will Keane get a game?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Simon Ward on January 12, 2012, 10:05:40 AM
Villa win 1-0 btw
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on January 12, 2012, 11:06:58 AM
I predict that Everton will play conservatively as against Spurs and play with a disciplined two rows of four (as per Swansea) McLeavemealone needs to go to a Plan B as Plan A evidently does not work whilst playing at home.
                                     Given or Guzan
                                   
                                Dunne Collins Cueller

                     Herd  N Zogbia Petrov Ireland Clarke
                               
                                     Gabby Bent

I know playing three at the back is risky but we need to be more imaginative at home and push the fullbacks up- just a thought.

Wouldn't it be really refreshing if he tried something like this? Although I suppose it would depend on the performance.

I'd go for it though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Summers on January 12, 2012, 12:08:25 PM
Keane to score the winner.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: levico on January 12, 2012, 12:16:09 PM
On the basis that IMO AM is incapable of really stirring the players into anything like a good, winning performance at home, I think this will be another home defeat - 5th on the trot and 6 out of 7.

Once we get into a relegation battle, AM has the track record to take us down - it's his strength.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: achilles on January 12, 2012, 01:06:25 PM
A dour game by two very unimpressive sides vying for mid-table obsurity - a draw!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on January 12, 2012, 01:10:10 PM
A dour game by two very unimpressive sides vying for mid-table obsurity - a draw!

Or another way of putting it,two bald men fighting over a comb.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ryu on January 12, 2012, 01:19:44 PM
While not against the idea of a wing back type formation per se, I think my left foot's team lacks natural width and pace on the left.  You could swap clarke and the zog, as he started of as a left back if I'm not mistaken.

Not convinced the players we have would suit it though, and at home I think many fans would see it as much, much too defensive. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Virgil Caine on January 12, 2012, 01:47:33 PM
Respect your view Ryu but I can't see how playing a three man defence and two up front with at least 3 attack minded midfielders could be any way described as defensive. As to ' pace' on the left we kid ourselves that we have that, Gabby apart. The Zog is a clever player but not gifted with an extraordinary turn of speed. The last time we had pace on the left was when Ash was here.

I just hope we can be a tad more imaginative and entertaining whilst getting three points when playing at Villa Park because at the moment my season ticket is being considered as very poor value for money.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on January 12, 2012, 01:52:57 PM
On the basis that IMO AM is incapable of really stirring the players into anything like a good, winning performance at home, I think this will be another home defeat - 5th on the trot and 6 out of 7.

Once we get into a relegation battle, AM has the track record to take us down - it's his strength.

That is scarey, if we are in a relegation battle he has proven twice he cannot get out of it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TimTheVillain on January 12, 2012, 01:59:03 PM
On the basis that IMO AM is incapable of really stirring the players into anything like a good, winning performance at home, I think this will be another home defeat - 5th on the trot and 6 out of 7.

Once we get into a relegation battle, AM has the track record to take us down - it's his strength.

That is scarey, if we are in a relegation battle he has proven twice he cannot get out of it.

But that was at the Sty, I don't take a massive amount of notice of that myself.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on January 12, 2012, 02:01:07 PM
Villa win here.

Everton have been very abject of late. Even their win against the Albion was mind numbing
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 12, 2012, 02:04:36 PM
If Bent doesn't start we will win.

Amazing how you'll take Ireland who, over the vast majority of games for Villa, has generally been a lazy fucker who's contribution amounts to very little, over Bent.

A couple of ok games and you have him over Bent, who has contributed more through scoring goals.

Just in case you weren't sure, scoring goals is the idea of football. You have to score more than the other team if you want to win. It's not about a player having 3 or 4 good games in 2 seasons.

It's amazing how you think the sun shines out of Bents arse based on last seasons form, yet you dismiss Ireland on last seasons form???

Ireland has looked quality, hungry and committed in the last few weeks the complete opposite to Bent.

So based on recent form and not last season, yes, I pick Ireland over Bent.

Ow and Ireland has as many goals as Bent since Bent came back from injury.

Ireland's form last season? What was that like, then? Do you mean when he was throwing strops and refusing to move house here, or when he was out clubbing and being ill at Newcastle?

And Ireland's got as many goals as Bent since Bent came back from injury? All of a few weeks ago. One swallow does not make a spring, especially not in the case of Ireland.

Paulie, you know exactly what I mean, I was responding to criticism of Ireland.

Shall I change my mind so I fall in line with everybody else?

By saying look at Ireland's form last season? What of it? That's the bit I don't understand.

I don't want you to change your mind, your opinion is as valid as anyone else's, but if you're going to bang on about Bent every day, don't be surprised if people argue with you!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ryu on January 12, 2012, 02:05:47 PM
My left foot,

My feeling was that herd on the right and clark on the left would look pretty conservative, and more of a 5 3 2. 

I think you're right that we should be looking at ways to be more creative through the middle, though. Maybe that's what AM has in mind bringing keane in...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on January 12, 2012, 03:51:26 PM
If Bent doesn't start we will win.

Amazing how you'll take Ireland who, over the vast majority of games for Villa, has generally been a lazy fucker who's contribution amounts to very little, over Bent.

A couple of ok games and you have him over Bent, who has contributed more through scoring goals.

Just in case you weren't sure, scoring goals is the idea of football. You have to score more than the other team if you want to win. It's not about a player having 3 or 4 good games in 2 seasons.

It's amazing how you think the sun shines out of Bents arse based on last seasons form, yet you dismiss Ireland on last seasons form???

Ireland has looked quality, hungry and committed in the last few weeks the complete opposite to Bent.

So based on recent form and not last season, yes, I pick Ireland over Bent.

Ow and Ireland has as many goals as Bent since Bent came back from injury.

Ireland's form last season? What was that like, then? Do you mean when he was throwing strops and refusing to move house here, or when he was out clubbing and being ill at Newcastle?

And Ireland's got as many goals as Bent since Bent came back from injury? All of a few weeks ago. One swallow does not make a spring, especially not in the case of Ireland.

Paulie, you know exactly what I mean, I was responding to criticism of Ireland.

Shall I change my mind so I fall in line with everybody else?

By saying look at Ireland's form last season? What of it? That's the bit I don't understand.

I don't want you to change your mind, your opinion is as valid as anyone else's, but if you're going to bang on about Bent every day, don't be surprised if people argue with you!

A comment was made about how Ireland has contributed nothing in his career at Villa and that Bent had saved us from relegation last season.

Last season Bent was quality for Villa and Ireland was a waste of space, but that is not the case now. I was being critisied for picking Ireland, because he has been shit up until recently.

My point was what happened last season is in the past and we should be picking players in form which for me means Ireland behind Gabby with the 2 wingers.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Fernando Partridge on January 12, 2012, 06:02:29 PM
So are strikers on saturday are going to be keane and bent....
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on January 12, 2012, 06:06:20 PM
So are strikers on saturday are going to be keane and bent....
I doubt Keane will start.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 12, 2012, 06:13:49 PM
Team line up will be interesting...if Keane starts then I really can't see a place for Ireland in the team which would be a kick in the teeth for him when he's just started getting some momentum for us.

I think Everton's main tactic will be to play Royston Drenthe on the right and just tell him to run at Warnock at every opportunity.

Have a bad feeling Tim Cahill will score aswell, think it's something ridiculous like he hasn't scored in the prem for over a year. We gifted Routledge his first ever prem goal last time out.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TimTheVillain on January 12, 2012, 06:15:41 PM
So are strikers on saturday are going to be keane and bent....
I doubt Keane will start.

I want to see him do his acrobatics in front of the Holte, something to cheer a so far, poor season up.

I think he'll be on the bench and may play in the final 20, but then he may start, stranger things have happened, Heskey has started a fair few games.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villanation on January 12, 2012, 07:23:34 PM
I think this has the makings of a really good battle and a real benchmark in terms of how we are doing, are we going in the right direction is AM improving the side.

We know Everton, they know us, this is all about football and we should take the points without any excuses.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on January 12, 2012, 07:43:01 PM
1-0 Villa with Keane coming on in the 68th minute and scoring a "Henry" type finish. When he celebrates his double cartwheel, he lands on Doug Ellis`s lap and just says to him "£50,000 that`s all it would of taken" :-)))
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Nastylee on January 12, 2012, 08:57:59 PM
Except it was John Gregory who wouldn't stump up the extra cash.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on January 12, 2012, 09:03:28 PM
Wasn't it JG who asked Sir HDE (M/O?)BE for the money?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on January 12, 2012, 09:25:05 PM
It was not supposed to be a technically accurate joke .........
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lobsterboy on January 12, 2012, 09:40:48 PM
I think we'll win 2-0, Bent and N'Zogbia with the goals.

Keane's arrival should give the players a bit of a boost and confident of a good performance and a win
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JD on January 13, 2012, 07:06:19 AM
3-1 to Villa. Petrov, Bent and Keane to score. Probably Cahill for Everton.   
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on January 13, 2012, 08:47:55 AM
Oh god.

Cahill in the air? Us from Corners?

0-9.

Treble hat trick
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on January 13, 2012, 12:20:09 PM
Lawro's prediction:-

Both these clubs are very much mid-table material in the Premier League and look like staying there - they seem to be drifting in no-man's land at the moment.

Villa have signed Robbie Keane on loan from Los Angeles Galaxy, which will give them another option up front, but they have definitely become a selling club.

On that note, there have been plenty of rumours that Darren Bent will be leaving Villa this month but I cannot see where he is going to go, especially if you think that they paid Sunderland more than £18m for him this time last year and will probably want their money back.

Everton are treading water too, and they are really fortunate that they have such a top manager in David Moyes. If he wakes up one morning and decides he is sick of banging his head against a brick wall every day, they are in big trouble.

I saw Moyes being interviewed after Wednesday's defeat by Tottenham and felt his frustration. I got the feeling he is wondering where he goes from here.

I am a big fan of his and he has done an outstanding job but every time people talk about Everton, it is all about how they cannot compete financially.

Bringing in Darron Gibson from Manchester United for £2m would be a decent buy at that price, because they need to replace Mikel Arteta, but all Moyes can do at the moment is shop around for bargains like that.

As for the game, it will be tight. Moyes will gee his players up after the Spurs match, while with Villa you are never quite sure what you are going to get. They were poor in their last home league game against Swansea but comfortable in their FA Cup win over Bristol Rovers.

Because they have home advantage I think they might just sneak this one, although I think Everton might end up a couple of places above Villa come May, if only because I think that even on a bad day they remain very competitive.

Prediction: 2-1


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/16526597.stm

Not a huge amount to argue with there.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on January 13, 2012, 12:28:31 PM
'but they have definitely become a selling club'

Young and Downing makes us definitely a selling club does it? Young with one year left on his contract who wasn't signing a new one and Downing for £20 million.  In the latter's case we're more a robbing club.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 13, 2012, 12:30:04 PM
"there have been plenty of rumours that Darren Bent will be leaving Villa this month"

That's because he's started most of them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on January 13, 2012, 12:31:10 PM
OK, maybe there was a bit to argue about there.......
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt C on January 13, 2012, 12:40:06 PM
Useless fact for the day: Gabby has scored more goals against Everton than any other PL club (6).
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 13, 2012, 12:55:29 PM
Does Lawrenson ever give a match prediction for us which doesn't involve labelling us a "selling club"?

The BBC's sport coverage has recently been looking more and more tired and half arsed. Lawrenson, Hansen and Lineker sat in their nice M&S shirts, spouting the same shite year after year.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 13, 2012, 01:32:07 PM
Is Keane eligible?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on January 13, 2012, 02:08:39 PM
Is Keane eligible?
Yes,he's recieved clearance and is available
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 13, 2012, 02:13:20 PM
Thanks.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villanation on January 13, 2012, 02:22:11 PM
Useless fact for the day: Gabby has scored more goals against Everton than any other PL club (6).


How can that be useless, it fantastic.

C'mon you Gabby freaking masterful all powerful best attacking player this side of the Klundyck....Agbonlahgod, Aston Villa supremo.......

he's so going to eat some toffees...yum yum.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 13, 2012, 02:25:50 PM
I'll be curious to see how we set up tomorrow. I'd imagine Mcleish will be looking to fit Keane in.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: luke25 on January 13, 2012, 02:28:24 PM
I'd like us to go for Keane, Bent and Gabby up front with a midfield 3 of Petrov, Ireland and Clark, have N'zog and Marc on the bench to change it if we need width.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on January 13, 2012, 02:30:47 PM
"there have been plenty of rumours that Darren Bent will be leaving Villa this month"

That's because he's started most of them.

That is quite odd, I agree. He says there that he doesn't know where Bent would go yet barely a week a go he was saying that Bent to Liverpool was a done deal. I reckon Alex and Ku Klux Kenny have had a word.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on January 13, 2012, 04:56:19 PM
Lawro.  Gotta love him. 

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: wombat on January 13, 2012, 06:40:06 PM
I am ready for an assault on my eyes of drudgery and tedium. But I have got a free coffee voucher... so it ain't all bad :)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on January 13, 2012, 06:58:58 PM
''Selling club'' has got to be the laziest term in football. When the price is right every club is a selling one.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on January 13, 2012, 07:03:09 PM
I am ready for an assault on my eyes of drudgery and tedium. But I have got a free coffee voucher... so it ain't all bad :)

You have to buy two to use it, though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: gervilla on January 13, 2012, 07:07:29 PM
We will win this one.
2-1 , Gabby & Keane for us. Tim Cahill header from a corner in the 83rd minute for them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villanation on January 13, 2012, 07:31:31 PM
I am ready for an assault on my eyes of drudgery and tedium. But I have got a free coffee voucher... so it ain't all bad :)

This will be a cracker.

Reason I say that is because you have 2 sides both desperate to win, 2 managers both desperate to get the bragging rights on this, both teams fighting for superiority of there respective positions in the Premiership, should be a real good battle.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on January 13, 2012, 07:48:57 PM
I am ready for an assault on my eyes of drudgery and tedium. But I have got a free coffee voucher... so it ain't all bad :)

This will be a cracker.

Reason I say that is because you have 2 sides both desperate to win, 2 managers both desperate to get the bragging rights on this, both teams fighting for superiority of there respective positions in the Premiership, should be a real good battle.

So a 0-0 draw it is.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on January 13, 2012, 09:07:46 PM
I am ready for an assault on my eyes of drudgery and tedium. But I have got a free coffee voucher... so it ain't all bad :)

This will be a cracker.

Reason I say that is because you have 2 sides both desperate to win, 2 managers both desperate to get the bragging rights on this, both teams fighting for superiority of there respective positions in the Premiership, should be a real good battle.

You should apply to the club's marketing department. I'm finding it very difficult to get motivated for this. Perhaps the suspense will build during the annoyingly long train journey from Aber.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 13, 2012, 09:13:40 PM
We're gonna smash these feckers!

Having missed the Swansea game as I was ill i'm quite looking forward to this. Seems ages since I was last there. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on January 13, 2012, 09:40:53 PM
I'd like us to go for Keane, Bent and Gabby up front with a midfield 3 of Petrov, Ireland and Clark, have N'zog and Marc on the bench to change it if we need width.

But narrow! Unless you're going to ask keane to play wide-ish right? I'd play one of the wingers over keane, probably CNZ as I think he's looked quite good of late. Just not sure of the right formation to play.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on January 13, 2012, 10:37:44 PM
No way is Mcleish going to start with Keane. The players he starts with up front will be aware that Keane will be brought on around the hour mark for the most effective impact. So hopefully they will put everything into there shift. 2-1 Gabby - Collins. Cahill for them .....
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jimmy Smash on January 13, 2012, 10:42:48 PM
I'd like us to go for Keane, Bent and Gabby up front with a midfield 3 of Petrov, Ireland and Clark, have N'zog and Marc on the bench to change it if we need width.

But narrow! Unless you're going to ask keane to play wide-ish right? I'd play one of the wingers over keane, probably CNZ as I think he's looked quite good of late. Just not sure of the right formation to play.

 So 4 3 3 then?  Not so sure about that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on January 13, 2012, 11:00:50 PM
Confirmed by Mcleish, Keane on the bench and Given starts.

He has also admitted he risks losing Guzan when his contract expires in the summer because of this desicion.

I'd have kept him in personally but we are not thinking long term are we.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villaparkb6 on January 13, 2012, 11:20:33 PM
according to AM on the OS Given straight back in, Keane on the bench but will definatly come on to make impact
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on January 13, 2012, 11:33:32 PM
I'd have left Guzan in for tomorrow as well and let Given rest for another week until the Wolves game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Clark Five on January 14, 2012, 12:04:06 AM
I am ready for an assault on my eyes of drudgery and tedium. But I have got a free coffee voucher... so it ain't all bad :)

This will be a cracker.

Reason I say that is because you have 2 sides both desperate to win, 2 managers both desperate to get the bragging rights on this, both teams fighting for superiority of there respective positions in the Premiership, should be a real good battle.

You should apply to the club's marketing department. I'm finding it very difficult to get motivated for this. Perhaps the suspense will build during the annoyingly long train journey from Aber.
The bloke who sits next to me comes from Aber. You should travel together, unless you are the same person.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 14, 2012, 12:10:11 AM
Bit disappointed in Brad being dropped. I'm a firm believer in keeping the shirt if you're playing well.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Karl Bridges on January 14, 2012, 12:25:41 AM
Haven't read through the whole thread so not sure if anyone's mentioned their injury list. No Jagielka, Distin, Coleman, Hibbert, Osman or Rodwell. Only Heitinga & Baines as recognised defenders. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: luke25 on January 14, 2012, 12:39:31 AM
I'd like us to go for Keane, Bent and Gabby up front with a midfield 3 of Petrov, Ireland and Clark, have N'zog and Marc on the bench to change it if we need width.

But narrow! Unless you're going to ask keane to play wide-ish right? I'd play one of the wingers over keane, probably CNZ as I think he's looked quite good of late. Just not sure of the right formation to play.
I agree about it being a bit narrow, my thinking behind playing the 3 is that they all have different natural instincts, Gabbys is to run the channels (giving us a bit of width), Keanes is to drop back a few yards and Bents is to attack the 6 yard area, I think they'd compliment each other well and when Petrov, Ireland or Clark have the ball we should actually have some movement off the ball for the first time in ages.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Greg N'Ash on January 14, 2012, 12:48:04 AM
thats a serious kick in the teeth to Brad IMO. He's done well and though i think Given's better it seems AM has his untouchables
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 14, 2012, 03:35:46 AM
thats a serious kick in the teeth to Brad IMO. He's done well and though i think Given's better it seems AM has his untouchables

You are so melodramatic Greg. Given isn't an untouchable. He's the club's first choice goalkeeper and he didn't lose his place because of form. He got hurt and now he's fit he's first choice again. Yes it is hard on Guzan but that's what happens when you're a back up goalkeeper.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on January 14, 2012, 03:54:48 AM
When was the last time Everton beat us in the league? I can't honestly remember. We're neck and neck with them generally but it's been wins for us and draws for the last few years (the FA Cup defeat at Goodison aside).
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on January 14, 2012, 04:27:05 AM
If i were having a bet i'd be putting my money on 1-1, Since i'm not i think they'll sneak it 1-2 they're due a win here and pretty much in general.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaSpen on January 14, 2012, 07:25:11 AM
I'm actually pretty confident despite our poor recent home results. I can't see there being many goals but I think we can pinch it.

My only worry is that Tim Cahill is without a goal in more than a year. His ridiculous 'corner flag/sparring' celebration is one of the very worst sights in modern football and I'm praying we're not subjected to it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on January 14, 2012, 08:37:54 AM
I think we're in a good position to win this one, given Everton's injury list and form. I think the biggest threat is actually the crowd and the general air of apathy and disquiet.

The team will be told to start up tempo and get the ball around and play. This could work well, but there are risks that we leave ourselves open to an early Everton goal as a result. I really hope the fans stay with the team.

Their central defence should be there to be got at, and I doubt  they'll risk Drenthe from the start due to his lack of defensive responsibilty, which is good as he could really get at Warnock.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Clark Five on January 14, 2012, 08:49:59 AM
I think we're in a good position to win this one, given Everton's injury list and form. I think the biggest threat is actually the crowd and the general air of apathy and disquiet.

This is very true. We need an atmosphere like the Arsenal game. We don't need any early blunders like against Swansea. That soon kills the crowd off.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on January 14, 2012, 09:28:29 AM
I predict a goal fest.
On form Albrighton and Charlie Zog putting in dangerous crosses.
Ireland and Keane with killer passes to the front men.

5-0 to Villa, with Bent getting a hat trick as he receives service and chances he hadnt seen previously at Villa. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: stubbsyandy on January 14, 2012, 09:42:48 AM
I think we're in a good position to win this one, given Everton's injury list and form. I think the biggest threat is actually the crowd and the general air of apathy and disquiet.

This is very true. We need an atmosphere like the Arsenal game. We don't need any early blunders like against Swansea. That soon kills the crowd off.

I think you are right, the early blunders against Swansea were a real downer, especially as we were all so optimistic before the game.
Lets get right behind the team and see if we can turn our home form around!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on January 14, 2012, 10:25:36 AM
I think we're in a good position to win this one, given Everton's injury list and form. I think the biggest threat is actually the crowd and the general air of apathy and disquiet.

This is very true. We need an atmosphere like the Arsenal game. We don't need any early blunders like against Swansea. That soon kills the crowd off.

I think you are right, the early blunders against Swansea were a real downer, especially as we were all so optimistic before the game.
Lets get right behind the team and see if we can turn our home form around!

It's a chicken and egg situation, but I think the crowd respond more to how the players are playing than the other way round.  The atmosphere was good at Arsenal because the players played well.  It was flat at Swansea because they were hopeless.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on January 14, 2012, 10:33:34 AM
My biggest fear is a mistake of gigantic proportions from Warnock (again) Moyes will have done his homework and will get the ball out to that wing to attack knowing he is suceptible to any type of pressure .... 2-1 Gabby Collins.  Cahill ..
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on January 14, 2012, 10:35:25 AM
Agreed to an extent and I think mcleish will urge the players to get the crowd on side early on. That would be great, but it could backfire if we lose concentration at the back an concede an early goal
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on January 14, 2012, 10:57:01 AM
Bit disappointed in Brad being dropped. I'm a firm believer in keeping the shirt if you're playing well.

It's a nice problem to have. Guzan will be straight in unless Given plays really well from now on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on January 14, 2012, 11:18:18 AM
My biggest fear is a mistake of gigantic proportions from Warnock (again) Moyes will have done his homework and will get the ball out to that wing to attack knowing he is suceptible to any type of pressure .... 2-1 Gabby Collins.  Cahill ..

Do Everton have a right winger? 

In any case I think the whole things been overplayed. He had a great game at Chelsea, for instance.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on January 14, 2012, 11:36:46 AM
Warnock was great against chelsea, but he was dire against Swansea and in the first ten minutes of the second half against Bristol Rovers he gave the ball away three times. Overall he really is'nt good enough.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Nastylee on January 14, 2012, 11:46:18 AM
Is Cahill even going to play. I've read in several places that he's a major doubt for them and they have Distin and Jag out. It's obvious Everton will try and do what they did to WBA, fuck all and nick a goal. It's upto Villa to get at them and score, 2 goals ought to be enough. (Famous last words)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Greg N'Ash on January 14, 2012, 11:46:37 AM
thats a serious kick in the teeth to Brad IMO. He's done well and though i think Given's better it seems AM has his untouchables

You are so melodramatic Greg. Given isn't an untouchable. He's the club's first choice goalkeeper and he didn't lose his place because of form. He got hurt and now he's fit he's first choice again. Yes it is hard on Guzan but that's what happens when you're a back up goalkeeper.


I'm don't think i'm being melodramtic really. If you've waited donkeys years for your chance, get it and perform well, and then get dropped as soon as the other guy is fit then i think a kick in the teeth is an accurate description, especially when others seem to be fixtures in the team however bad they play
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on January 14, 2012, 12:28:55 PM
with herd and cuellar out, choices are limited. almost certainly mcleish will revert to 442. only choice is which of the widemen ireland will replace. nzogbia I reckon will make way. I think we are better off with Ireland behind a lone frontman but that wont be the case here. Bringing back Given is the right choice too. Tough on Guzan who did well but hopefully he will have earned a move out of it anyway.

Given, Hutton, Collins, Dunne, Warnock, Albrighton, Petrov, Clark, Ireland, Gabby, Bent



Title: Re: Aston Villa v Everton Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on January 14, 2012, 12:39:25 PM
My biggest fear is a mistake of gigantic proportions from Warnock (again) Moyes will have done his homework and will get the ball out to that wing to attack knowing he is suceptible to any type of pressure .... 2-1 Gabby Collins.  Cahill ..

Do Everton have a right winger? 

In any case I think the whole things been overplayed. He had a great game at Chelsea, for instance.

Not sure of the formation they will play but Donovan and Drenthe can play wide if instructed and Warnock does not have the composure to stay on his feet. He certainly is our weak link and that is saying something when you have got Hutton in your team .....
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