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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on December 26, 2011, 02:06:56 PM
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Available Monday evening.
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VILLA: Guzan, Cuellar, Collins, Dunne, Warnock, Albrighton, Clark, Petrov, N’Zogbia, Heskey, Agbonlahor
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Surely Ireland or bannan not heskey??! This isn't going to be pretty is it?
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Heskey and Collins, oh good. Well come on Villa, try and play football to win.
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Subs: Ireland, Marshall, Bannan, Weimann, Delfouneso, Johnson, Gardner.
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Stoke: Sorensen, Huth, Jones, Wilson, Shawcross, Whitehead, Walters, Etherington, Shotton, Woodgate, Palacios. Subs: Begovic, Pennant, Diao, Upson, Delap, Wilkinson, Jerome.
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Heskey, just why?!!!
I still remember him last year messing up a headed clearence in the last minute that allowed Huth to score.
No Bent either, not looking good is it?
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I hope Bent's injured, because he better not be going. I'm disappointed Ireland or Bannan isn't in the side. I just hope Mcleish has learnt his lesson, I'm not sure he has.
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Surely Ireland or bannan not heskey??! This isn't going to be pretty is it?
It never is against Stoke.
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I am more and more convinced Bent is off. He has been built up to be fit for sure today and is not in the squad.... wonder if Chelsea fancy a goalscorer at the moment..... would not shock me at all.
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Surprised Bent's not in the squad. I've had a bad feeling about him these past few months...
Absolutely gutted that Collins is in the side. That's down to Hutton's idiotic challenge in the last game.
Ah well, come on villa!!
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Oh and as for Heskey in the side, it is a totally shambolic decision after the other night.
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If we sell Bent I will be massively pissed off.
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I am more and more convinced Bent is off. He has been built up to be fit for sure today and is not in the squad.... wonder if Chelsea fancy a goalscorer at the moment..... would not shock me at all.
Me too.
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It was for 60 minutes last season. We were excellent, fluid and looked dangerous. I'll be surprised if we match that with this side, but here's hoping . . .
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Looks like we are beginning to get used to not having him. Still be surprised if he goes in Jan! Short and sweet eh?
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I can't see where bent would go. He isn't top 4 standard and I don't know who else could afford him.
I think this was an ideal opportunity to stick with the same formation as last week, get hold of the ball a bit and play around their straight lines with mobility and good passing. I think gabby can do the hold up play bit. I really find it embarrassing when heskey plays in midfield.
Anyway, enough grumbling, let's hope we can do it.
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Ah good another bit of patronising commentary on the BBC live football thing -
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That's twice on the BBC today this game has been completely belittled.
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First half.
2nd half we barely kept the ball.
I was quite happy Crouch is ill/injured/getting burgled....until I realised Jones scored in both games last season.
And they have Pennant and Delap to throw on for the late onslaught.
Think this will be a behind the sofa watch.
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It was for 60 minutes last season. We were excellent, fluid and looked dangerous. I'll be surprised if we match that with this side, but here's hoping . . .
No, but I'd be surprised we matched it with Stephen Ireland. I really don't think it's a game for him or Bannan from the start. Clearly it would be better if Bent was fit but as he's not I think Heskey is the right option for this game.
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Heskey, great!! Saying that we ain't got much option have we?
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Let's hope you're right!
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FFS Heskey?
Seems like our experiment of passing the ball is over then.
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That's twice on the BBC today this game has been completely belittled.
Not sure why anybody is offended by it. It will be shit.
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I think I'm inclined to agree with Chris on this one, I think playing Heskey does make some sense tonight. I'm quite interested to see how the defense does with Carlos at Right Back, too.
So, a pretty reasonable team selection all things considered, but it's a bit of a shame we have Stoke after last weeks performance! Against a less, er , physical side I hope we'd have tried the same again.
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That's twice on the BBC today this game has been completely belittled.
Not sure why anybody is offended by it. It will be shit.
Yep, absolutely amazed its on the tele. I can't imagine many neutrals being excited by it.
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We are going to need Heskey against Stoke, unfortunately i think he will be needed in more defensive areas against the long and high balls pumped in.
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So we're going to settle for heading the ball out of our own box for 90 minutes?
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Why do we always seem to pander to the opposition?
Whats wrong with trying to impose ourselves on the game?
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I'm a villa fan and I'm not excited
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So we're going to settle for heading the ball out of our own box for 90 minutes?
Don't recall saying 90 minutes
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I'm a villa fan and I'm not excited
Corrie seems like a much more palatable prospect tonight.
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The decision to bring back the mule is a disgrace. Pure and simple.
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It'd be nice if we tried to impose ourselves like we did against Arsenal and play it around them. Oh well maybe they'll surprise me, come on Villa.
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That's twice on the BBC today this game has been completely belittled.
Not sure why anybody is offended by it. It will be shit.
I read that. It was sarcastic rather that patronising but out of order as the game is likely to be exciting in it's own way!
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That line-up looks like we're playing for a draw.
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The one thing that didn't work last week was Gabby on his own up front. To leave him isolated against their centre halves would be asking for trouble.
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Live stream (http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/99676/1/watch-stoke-city-vs-aston-villa.html)
Use of above link not condoned or authorised. Too many bloody adverts!
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Michael Gray has just been saying the style we adopt in trying to counter attack is a disservice to our players and if we played on the front foot with the players we have we'd be a lot better off. He's right, because that's essentially what we did against Arsenal.
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Ugo also speaks sense.
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Michael Gray has just been saying the style we adopt in trying to counter attack is a disservice to our players and if we played on the front foot with the players we have we'd be a lot better off. He's right, because that's essentially what we did against Arsenal.
Attack! Attack! AttackAttackAttack!!!
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Mr Green says we would struggle if there weren't worse sides than us in the league...
I hate him but he ain't wrong
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So we're going to settle for heading the ball out of our own box for 90 minutes?
Don't recall saying 90 minutes
Sorry mate, I don't recall you saying anything. It's just my opinion.
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I can't see where bent would go. He isn't top 4 standard and I don't know who else could afford him.
I think this was an ideal opportunity to stick with the same formation as last week, get hold of the ball a bit and play around their straight lines with mobility and good passing. I think gabby can do the hold up play bit. I really find it embarrassing when heskey plays in midfield.
Anyway, enough grumbling, let's hope we can do it.
Exactly, he isn't good enough for the top 4. Spurs sold him when he was in similar form so who's going to sign him? 3-0 Stoke, we won't cope with their set pieces.
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This game should not be the late televised one. They should have selected a game with more entertainment potential and one where the away fans would have had a long journey to attend.
Not surprised the mule is back: he can - apparently - defend corners.
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Why do we always seem to pander to the opposition?
Whats wrong with trying to impose ourselves on the game?
This...play your own game AM. After a promising display last time out I fear any "momentum" will be lost. We are just asking to be bombarded..as if they needed any encouragement. Playing Bannan and Ireland may have seen us keep the ball more, and more importantly, away from them.
Oh well, can't say I am surprised.
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Please let us win
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Live stream (http://www.firstrowsports.tv/watch/99676/1/watch-stoke-city-vs-aston-villa.html)
Use of above link not condoned or authorised. Too many bloody adverts!
go full screen for no adverts.
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Stoke: Sorensen, Huth, Jones, Wilson, Shawcross, Whitehead, Walters, Etherington, Shotton, Woodgate, Palacios. Subs: Begovic, Pennant, Diao, Upson, Delap, Wilkinson, Jerome.
Well, if Woodgate is at FB, it's time to rip him a new one. Charles, Albie - please step up.
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Not surprised the mule is back: he can - apparently - defend corners.
Unfortunately it tends to be our own corners.
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This game should not be the late televised one. They should have selected a game with more entertainment potential and one where the away fans would have had a long journey to attend.
Not surprised the mule is back: he can - apparently - defend corners.
That argument was the only going for him. The fact we have conceded more with him in than without disproves it.
Picking him even over a player like Gardner to play in midfield it is a travesty.
And Bent scores goals. Worse players have played for the top 4, and I reckon Chelsea and Liverpool would kill for him at the moment.
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Heskey?????????????? Again FFS!!!!!!!!! Could one of our supporters up there please could take his place.....
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Heskey and Collins back in the side. Will this manager ever learn they are just not good enough?
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Key today, don't giveaway stupid free kicks and don't giveaway throw ins in line with our 18yd box. Biggest thing carry on from where we left off the other night and believe in ourselves.
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Heskey and Collins back in the side. Will this manager ever learn they are just not good enough?
I can understand Collins given that Hutton is suspended and Herd is injured, but Heskey bewilders me.
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The first of many corners to defend ...
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Shit they have a corner.
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And another one.
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Corner a minute in. Brilliant.
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Heskey and Collins back in the side. Will this manager ever learn they are just not good enough?
They are in to combat the aerial threat posed by Stoke. I just hope it doesn't mean we'll resort to long ball again when attacking. It would be a serious step backwards.
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Seem to be man-marking at the corner; interesting.
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We need a big game from Dunne...
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Pulis looks such a scutter in that baseball cap.
He looks like a minor member of the Soprano crew.
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Ah the first Collins hoof already.
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Collins...hoof. Surprise
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The first hoof from Collins - straight through to the keeper.
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Shit they have a throw in.
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Chrsit, what a horrible anti-football disgrace Stoke are with this fucking throw-in obsession.
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I genuinely think Collins should be fined if he hoofs it.
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Great ball by Clark.
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If only that was N'Zogbia instead of Heskey
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They've started okay; trying to move the ball around.
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Good move shit cross.
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Decent counter there, because they passed it and didn't belt it straight up field.
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CC's put in a couple of neat channel balls.
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Warnock's as thick as pigshit, ain't he?
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Steve Shorey!?
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Is David Pleat the co-commentator? Quite badly informed all around.
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Dear Dear me, Marc!
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Collins hoof
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HOOF!
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Collins ....... bosh........ Stoke have the ball.
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No communication between Dunne and Guzan......
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We just did the three-legged horse then. Three hoofs in a row.
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Cuellar shows good positional play.
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Well we tried to retain possession for a bit there.
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Stoke booo a side trying to pass the ball.... mmmm.... their fans are like pigs in shit with Pulis aren't they.
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Shotton is fucking rubbish.
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Effdee: why do you find it 'interesting' that we are man-marking at corners? Seeing as its what we've been doing for the last 18 months, the word I'd use is 'ominous'.
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Well played by WArnock. Nearly got GA in.
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Effdee: why do you find it 'interesting' that we are man-marking at corners? Seeing as its what we've been doing for the last 18 months, the word I'd use is 'ominous'.
I thought we'd been zonal in the last few games ...
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I have a good feeling about this.
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Effdee: why do you find it 'interesting' that we are man-marking at corners? Seeing as its what we've been doing for the last 18 months, the word I'd use is 'ominous'.
I thought we'd been zonal in the last few games ...
Don't get him started.
He's got a thing of some sort about it.
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Stop with the long ball please.
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Stop fucking hoofing it Collins, for fucks sake.
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Fk sake Heskey
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Not the brightest pass from Heskey there.
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come on you Villa boys!
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We have been zonal for weeks for certain.
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off the post.
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Off the post!
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Stoke are utterly, utterly horrible.
Every single thing about them is revolting.
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Hit the post!!!
Great awareness by Clark to get the ball back out.
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Better header from Heskey.
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Unlucky Emile.
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a proper header from Emile ..unlucky
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Stoke are utterly, utterly horrible.
Every single thing about them is revolting.
They are and it made me chuckle when Pleat said they must be happy with a pristine pitch, I fucking doubt it.
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Brilliant - yellow for Huth.
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huth ..that should have been red
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We hit the post? My stream has frozen.
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After a couple of good goals, Stan seems to think he should be shooting from 30-35 yards all the time.
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huth ..that should have been red
didn't touch him.
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huth ..that should have been red
didn't touch him.
Pulled his hand back as he ran away, was subtle, but a booking.
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The game needs Bannan.
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The commentator has just said that Heskey is showing a great example: but his passing has been lamentable.
Why do people who should know better hold Emule in such high regard?
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Thickie Warnock.
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I'm really preferring the composure Clark brings to the midfield. I think the team functions better with him than with Herd, as well as Herd has done.
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We need a better end product to convert our dominance into goals
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Great push from Gabby.
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I'm really preferring the composure Clark brings to the midfield. I think the team functions better with him than with Herd, as well as Herd has done.
Clark is a very tidy footballer.
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Heskey has done 1 good, 1 bad thing all night. Giving it away much of the time.
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Charles has to work Woodgate more like that.
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Villasteams hd channel is broken dam!
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Heskey has done 1 good, 1 bad thing all night. Giving it away much of the time.
Hard to do much good when every time you try to control the ball it bounces 30 feet
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We're as static as a post-Christmas-blowout granddad. Where's the movement?
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A shot towards goal from a team
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The only thing they are cheering are the freekicks they get...
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Paulie, sorry for pointing out people's erroneous blaming of zonal marking for our defensive woes. Maybe it's William MacGegor's fault, or global warming perhaps.
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Well played, Petrov.
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That was a booking for sure!
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Clark will soon be one of our better players.
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First misplaced pass from Clark, but I definitely like him in that position and we should keep him in the side.
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Paulie, sorry for pointing out people's erroneous blaming of zonal marking for our defensive woes. Maybe it's William MacGegor's fault, or global warming perhaps.
I wasn't pointing out anything other than I'd noticed ... well, you know.
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Paulie, sorry for pointing out people's erroneous blaming of zonal marking for our defensive woes. Maybe it's William MacGegor's fault, or global warming perhaps.
Or maybe we have been zonally marking, badly.
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First misplaced pass from Clark, but I definitely like him in that position and we should keep him in the side.
Heskey sold him a dummy...
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Poor from Warnock
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Poor from Warnock
from Warnock as always
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"Stoke have the stronger squad".
I can't think of a single player of theirs I'd want in our squad.
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This is crap compared to the Arse game.
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This is crap compared to the Arse game.
The opposition have got a fair amount to do with it, mind.
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"Stoke have the stronger squad".
I can't think of a single player of theirs I'd want in our squad.
Nope other than maybe Shawcross. But no not really, we at least have some talent even if it's under utilised at times. They are all physicality and horrible.
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See Benty is missing sales today
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"Stoke have the stronger squad".
I can't think of a single player of theirs I'd want in our squad.
I'd take Crouch in a swap for Heskey.
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"Stoke have the stronger squad".
I can't think of a single player of theirs I'd want in our squad.
I'd take Crouch in a swap for Heskey.
I'd give Heskey away for nowt.
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Fuck me, tackle of the season from Clark!
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That was a good chance. I've noticed in the last two games we are moving off the ball a lot better and that's what lead to that chance.
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Warnock's a liability.
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I see now that they are trying to batter N'Zog.
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Well done Guzan
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Excellent from Guzan.
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Well done Brad.
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Great goalkeeping Brad.
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Collins WTF
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How on earth is Palocios not in the book? the 2 worst tackles of the night.
Plus whoever took Nzogbia of the ball in the build up to the Petrov shot should have been in the book.
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Stoke and Villa must be the two poorest football sides in the Premier League, this is absolutely dire.
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We are nowhere near as bad as Stoke, we are trying to play.
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The game's about as pretty as Bella Emberg in a boobtube, but we haven't had that bad a half. Still, no shots on target.
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Gabby doesn't seem to have any ideas when he plays central attack
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BEAUTY!!!!!!!!!!!
half time
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We are nowhere near as bad as Stoke, we are trying to play.
Yep, we are at least trying.
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We need to work out how to get a threat. I'd bring Ireland or Bannan on for Heskey.
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I would of taken that before the game.
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Half time and Villa are definately playing the best football of the two teams.
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Ozzjim. I'd point out your misjudgement re: zonal marking, but it would bother paulie. I still blame global warming, and I don't expect to be corrected.
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This is gash. Get the mule off and bring on Bannan or even Ireland.
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We need to work out how to get a threat. I'd bring Ireland or Bannan on for Heskey.
I'd bring Kevin Macdonald or Sid on for the big useless lump.
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Stoke and Villa must be the two poorest football sides in the Premier League, this is absolutely dire.
We are but not Stoke as they have never aspired to play football.
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Stoke and Villa must be the two poorest football sides in the Premier League, this is absolutely dire.
Sad but true. There's absolutely no denying that. McLeish and Pulis are managers who have not been able to tranform their football philosphies to this modern era. We play like it is still 1990's. Since MON left I said that we need a young manager with fresh ideas. Not one of these knuckleheads who have no clue whatsoever how to play passing football
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Springwatch revisted in on Telly.
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Ozzjim. I'd point out your misjudgement re: zonal marking, but it would bother paulie. I still blame global warming, and I don't expect to be corrected.
it doesn't bother me, Percy.
I don't understand why you're so obsessed about it, that's all. Feel free to knock yourself out, though.
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Sky must be enthralled with their decision to put us and Stoke on Boxing Day. Still, we have countered their primary threat which is a key objective met so far. I'd like to see us get in on the ground a bit more to play it wide faster. Another nasty thing about Stoke is that they have one of the narrower pitches in the league to help their throw-ins so it makes it tougher for our wide players. One way or another we have to be them in the game.
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We need to work out how to get a threat. I'd bring Ireland or Bannan on for Heskey.
I'd bring Kevin Macdonald or Sid on for the big useless lump.
However we will need him to play the great defensive role when Stoke put us under pressure as no doubt we let them in the second half!
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Harsh words their in studio. We tried to play.
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I don't like Gary Neville and his monotone Manc slur, but he does actually make some decent points.
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I don't like Gary Neville and his monotone Manc slur, but he does actually make some decent points.
You can see how he got the gig.
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Like I said we tried to play and you can imagine with Ireland or Bannan in the side instead of Heskey that might be easier.
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We're definitely trying.
We're just not very good at it, and a result, aren't having too much success.
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To be fair Heskey hasn't done that bad for the team tonight.
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We're definitely trying.
We're just not very good at it, and a result, aren't having too much success.
Scarily this is light years better than the manc and 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' home games.
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We're definitely trying.
We're just not very good at it, and a result, aren't having too much success.
Oh agreed, but at least the fact we are trying means we can have some hope that Mcleish might have some sort of reasonable plan moving forward.
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We're definitely trying.
We're just not very good at it, and a result, aren't having too much success.
Scarily this is light years better than the manc and 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' home games.
The Liverpool match was unforgiveable.
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We're definitely trying.
We're just not very good at it, and a result, aren't having too much success.
Scarily this is light years better than the manc and 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' home games.
The Liverpool match was unforgiveable.
Think I might kip through the second half. Forgot how knackering 4am feeds are.
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Heskey off.
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Fonz on for Heskey, I would have gone with Ireland or Bannan.
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Paulie: if you're not bothered by my posts on zonal marking why have a dig every time I post on the subject. For my part, I do find it annoying when people continie to blame it for our frailty at set-peices. It's like arguing with people that 2 plus 2 isn't 5. It's a matter of fact, not opinion.
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The Fonz on for the Tumbling Bear.
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Some people wish came true heskey off
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why the fonz instead of Ireland / Bannan?
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Don't hoof it Collins for fucks sake.
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Fonz on for Heskey, I would have gone with Ireland or Bannan.
I agree. Our manager is awful.
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Another of heskeys problems is that he seems to be made of glass these days and is always breaking down
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Fonz on for Heskey, I would have gone with Ireland or Bannan.
I agree. Our manager is awful.
Ireland deserved the shot after wednesday surely?
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Heskey's done alright, I thought. I'd rather have seen Bannan come on instead of Delfouneso, though.
Not too bad in the first half. I mean, the standard overall was crap, but at least we were equally crap, as opposed to much crapper. It'll be an arse if we lose again, but I've seen enough in the last game and a half to be a bit more optimistic about things. Of course, I have been drinking...
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There's a guy on Stoke's bench who looks like he should be Paul Lambert's Dad.
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So have I. We'll win 0-4.
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Should of brought on Wieman he's more physical
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So have I. We'll win 0-4.
Easy. *Hic*
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Fonz on for Heskey, I would have gone with Ireland or Bannan.
I agree. Our manager is awful.
Ireland deserved the shot after wednesday surely?
of course he does but Eck is matching up to Stoke in donkey footbal.
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So have I. We'll win 0-4.
Put the meths back in the cupboard.....
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Paulie: if you're not bothered by my posts on zonal marking why have a dig every time I post on the subject. For my part, I do find it annoying when people continie to blame it for our frailty at set-peices. It's like arguing with people that 2 plus 2 isn't 5. It's a matter of fact, not opinion.
It's like Villadawg with the Spurs thing. Every time it is mentioned, you can't help but weigh in. Not that long ago you were weighing in against me even using the word "marking" in relation to the zonal thing, you were so keen to score some kind of point.
I see you're doing it yourself now, mind.
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Good work, Carlos
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Stoke really are murder to watch.
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Why the fuck did Dunne let that ball drop.
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They're getting a lot of joy down our left hand side.
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Really can't think why there are so many empty seats at a match involving these two teams.
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Good work, Villa.
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Nearly for Fonz
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Great play Gabby and Delfouneso.
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Great move.
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Unlucky Fonz
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Oh chance Delf.
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Good play
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That was close.
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Best moment yet.
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Gabby really has worked on those left foot crosses at pace.
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Fucking hell Cuellar.
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Playing at Stoke is like going to the dentist.
You hope you'll come out of it largely intact, but it's an unenjoyable experience and you sit through it just waiting for the pain to kick in.
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Playing at Stoke is like going to the dentist.
You hope you'll come out of it largely intact, but it's an unenjoyable experience and you sit through it just waiting for the pain to kick in.
You really dont like Stoke do you...
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Fucking hell Cuellar.
He did so well to make up for Warnock's bad pass then proved that he is the only Spanish footballer with a right leg shaped like a 50 pence piece.
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Another cynical foul.
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Playing at Stoke is like going to the dentist.
You hope you'll come out of it largely intact, but it's an unenjoyable experience and you sit through it just waiting for the pain to kick in.
You really dont like Stoke do you...
I'm not a fan, no.
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Dean Whitehead is one freaky looking bloke.
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Another cynical foul.
How do Stoke get away with all this?
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Dean Whitehead is one freaky looking bloke.
I was thinking that.
He looks a bit "special".
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Petrov seems to have been well involved...
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We're at least trying to play some football, even if we're not succeeding.
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Again we retained possession but the players stopped moving off the ball and it fizzled out.
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Dean Whitehead is one freaky looking bloke.
I was thinking that.
He looks a bit "special".
He looks like an attraction from a 19th century traveling circus. Like he comes on before the bearded lady or something.
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We seem to have turned a corner and can actually play a passing game.
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Dean Whitehead is one freaky looking bloke.
I was thinking that.
He looks a bit "special".
What was that film with Eric stoltz in? Mask or something
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fucking hell lads move off the fucking ball.
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Come on Alex we need more creativity to open these up.
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Seems a better team spirit and togetherness. Need more spells in front of goal. C'mon Villa!
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We've been very tidy of the past fives minutes but have little confidence when the ball crosses the half way line.
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Uh oh.
Corner.
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Get Ireland or Bannan on, we need that creative spark.
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We've been very tidy of the past fives minutes but have little confidence when the ball crosses the half way line.
I'd agree with that.
We're at least trying to keep hold of the ball. We don't really have the spark to do much with it, that seems to be the problem.
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Get Ireland or Bannan on, we need that creative spark.
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Fuck's sake paulie give me a break. I only weigh in when people incorrectly state we are marking zonally. And every time I do you weigh in. Are you saying you wouldn't correct me if I seriously thought that all Villa's woes were down to something that couldn't reasonably be blamed? Because if you're going to blame tactics that we're not using, you might as well blame our ex-manager Bill Shankly for selling Messi to Small Heath for a set of tracksuits last summer. It's just as valid.
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palacios through the back again!!
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Fuck's sake paulie give me a break. I only weigh in when people incorrectly state we are marking zonally. And every time I do you weigh in. Are you saying you wouldn't correct me if I seriously thought that all Villa's woes were down to something that couldn't reasonably be blamed? Because if you're going to blame tactics that we're not using, you might as well blame our ex-manager Bill Shankly for selling Messi to Small Heath for a set of tracksuits last summer. It's just as valid.
I genuinely don't even know what you're talking about now, to be honest.
I haven't even mentioned zonal marking beyond the fact you're somewhat wound up by it all and can't wait to mention it.
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Crosses have been shit again.
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palacios through the back again!!
Send him off!
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They keep asking for "quality" on 5Live - do they realise which match they are at?
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Fuck's sake paulie give me a break. I only weigh in when people incorrectly state we are marking zonally. And every time I do you weigh in. Are you saying you wouldn't correct me if I seriously thought that all Villa's woes were down to something that couldn't reasonably be blamed? Because if you're going to blame tactics that we're not using, you might as well blame our ex-manager Bill Shankly for selling Messi to Small Heath for a set of tracksuits last summer. It's just as valid.
I genuinely don't even know what you're talking about now, to be honest.
I haven't even mentioned zonal marking beyond the fact you're somewhat wound up by it all and can't wait to mention it.
Come on lads let it go. We've got to use all of our energy getting our boys a win tonight.
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Good work, N'Zogbia.
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Close from N'Zog. Out of interest how many times have our players been taken out off the ball?
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Here comes more long throws
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Fuck's sake paulie give me a break. I only weigh in when people incorrectly state we are marking zonally. And every time I do you weigh in. Are you saying you wouldn't correct me if I seriously thought that all Villa's woes were down to something that couldn't reasonably be blamed? Because if you're going to blame tactics that we're not using, you might as well blame our ex-manager Bill Shankly for selling Messi to Small Heath for a set of tracksuits last summer. It's just as valid.
I genuinely don't even know what you're talking about now, to be honest.
I haven't even mentioned zonal marking beyond the fact you're somewhat wound up by it all and can't wait to mention it.
Come on lads let it go. We've got to use all of our energy getting our boys a win tonight.
It's alright.
I'm powered by Mingles tonight.
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Delap on - here it comes......
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Lots ....
Stoke plan B....long throw Delap
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Zoggy... why do players choose near side on shots like that?
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Move off the fucking ball, good christ.
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McInally is right, it is the final pass we're missing.
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Come on Alex use the subs NOW
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Christ.
My stomach goes into knots every time they get a corner.
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Off the fookin bar!
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Fuck me.....
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Jesus Christ.
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I think this is cryin out for bannan or Ireland. We're seeing a lot of the ball in midfield but not doing anything with it. Just need that one killer pass to unlock things.
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Off the underside of the bar, switched off there.
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Sorry I'm late, and fuck me that was close.
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Phew
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Saved by the bar. Let that be a warning.
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Well stopped Gabby.
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Gabby just saved us there.
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Gabby saved us there.
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Well done Gabby.
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Well done Gabby.
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That was over the line?
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As Hilts Coolerking just said to me elsewhere, "this is the worst christmas football since 1914"
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Our patient build-up/inability to advance much further than the halfway line isn't going to hurt Stoke.
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We could win this if we are canny
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Again, move off the fucking ball.
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Bring Bannan on for 20 minutes. We've got zero movement off the ball, and no passing through the middle. Clark has done nowt all night, and Albrigthon's crossing has been gash, so I'd bring one of those two off.
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We don't two wingers tonight. Take Albrighton off and bring in someone to sit in the hole behind Fonz.
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That was over the line?
Not far enough though.
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That was over the line?
No, it wasn't.
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Oooooh look at the movement.
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Bring Bannan on for 20 minutes. We've got zero movement off the ball, and no passing through the middle. Clark has done nowt all night, and Albrigthon's crossing has been gash, so I'd bring one of those two off.
Clark has been tidy, but I agree, if we're going to try to win we'll bring BB on.
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The sad truth is Alex will be chuffed with a point.
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The sad truth is Alex will be chuffed with a point.
I'd take a point now.
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Ireland and Bannan now too for me.
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As Hilts Coolerking just said to me elsewhere, "this is the worst christmas football since 1914"
:o
I wondered where he was, he isn't locked up in your cellar Austria style is he?!
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The sad truth is Alex will be chuffed with a point.
Just about any team would be chuffed with a point at Stoke, they are a very, very good team at home.
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We need to win games and this is very winnable, get the creative players on.
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The sad truth is Alex will be chuffed with a point.
I will be chuffed as well the way the season is going.
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The sad truth is Alex will be chuffed with a point.
The sad truth is so will I. Againstt fucking Stoke!
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Let's have a good free kick now. This is important
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As Hilts Coolerking just said to me elsewhere, "this is the worst christmas football since 1914"
:o
I wondered where he was, he isn't locked up in your cellar Austria style is he?!
He's posting in reply to my facebook status at the moment.
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Come on Zoggy.
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I'm only pointing out that we don't use zonal marking. I should be allowed to point this out whenever people mistakenly think we do. whenever I do so you have a dig at me.
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Come on lads!!!!
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Fuck me lads Whois following up on that rebound?
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I'm only pointing out that we don't use zonal marking. I should be allowed to point this out whenever people mistakenly think we do. whenever I do so you have a dig at me.
Oh, if it'll make you happy, I'll just agree with you.
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Fonz looks lost
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Pull back on Clark - another one!!!
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Clark dragged back again.
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Its a poor indictment of the league when a poor side like Stoke can be as high as they are.
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Fonz looks lost
I'm not even remotely convinced he's going to make it. He always looks like a boy amongst men.
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Why, do you think we mark zonally? And here was me thinking you had a clue about football.
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The sad truth is Alex will be chuffed with a point.
Just about any team would be chuffed with a point at Stoke, they are a very, very good team at home.
Their home record isn't that great to be honest. It's good, but only on a par with the likes of Norwich and Swansea.
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Fonz looks lost
I really want him to be PL level. He just doesn't look it at all
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Fucking hell.
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I'm starting to get that ooh-I'm-feeling-a-last-minute-goal-coming-on feeling coming on.
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Fonz looks lost
He's fading from the scene really I feel?
What you reckon OJim?
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For us?
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Sub sub sub
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Fonz looks lost
I'm not even remotely convinced he's going to make it. He always looks like a boy amongst men.
Sadly its Luke Moore esque
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Fonz looks lost
I'm not even remotely convinced he's going to make it. He always looks like a boy amongst men.
I'm absolutely convinced that he won't make it, he really is exceedingly ordinary.
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Now I like zonal marking....and I like man marking but which one is better.......
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Corner :-(
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Why, do you think we mark zonally? And here was me thinking you had a clue about football.
Christ almighty.
This is the point I was trying to make. You're obsessed with it and constantly trying to engage people in argument about it ever since you read something about it somewhere.
It's boring.
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Brilliant from Delfouneso...
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Corner ;-)
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Fuck me Stan. Give it up
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Get Ireland on for Albrighton
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10 mins left.
We're clearly not going to score, so here's hoping we just manage to take the point.
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Fuck me Stan... head over ball at least
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Just stop it now Petrov.
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Does Petrov think he is Brazilian?
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Come on, this games for the taking.
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10 mins left.
We're clearly not going to score, so here's hoping we just manage to take the point.
I'll take it now
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Bent would have scored tonight.
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Does Petrov think he is Brazilian?
Someone needs to tell him ain't Alonso. Hitz or Roberto fucking Carlos
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Bent would have scored tonight.
Only at asda
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Clarke looks fucked.
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Fonz injured?
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I'm getting sooooooo drunk at Chelsea.
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Does Petrov think he is Brazilian?
Someone needs to tell him ain't Alonso. Hitz or Roberto fucking Carlos
Spot on with the latter!
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I'm getting sooooooo drunk at Chelsea.
Same in Wordsley mate!
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Come on, this games for the taking.
Yep - but we dont have the right players on the pitch
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How many times do Stoke get away with stuff like that off the ball.
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It's about Huth Time isn't it?
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Oh good. Stupid free kick conceded by Collins
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Honestly, the next ten minutes are going to be horrible.
This is perfect "fuck it up Villa" territory.
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Loss time...
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My stating the very sime fact that we don't mark zonally doesn't merit an argument, any more than someone saying we won the cup in 1957. Someone saying we won it last season however, needs correcting. I don't want people to engage about it, just to watch the game a bit closer so they don't keep posting their ignorance.
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It's about Huth Time isn't it?
Certainly at some point in the next six minutes.
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Why has he picked on Collins for "wrapping" when the Stokies have done it in the penalty area from minute 1?
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Even Pulis the twat is drying the ball..
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My stating that we don't mark zonally doesn't merit an argument, any more than someone saying we won the cup in 1957. Someone sqaying we won it lastseason however, needs correcting. I don't want people to engage about it, just to watch the game a bit closer so they don't keep posting their ignorance.
Honestly, anything you like, I'm happy to agree with it if it'll make you stop.
I've got five Mingles left in the box. You can have them all.
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Go Brad!
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Great work Brad
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Great stuff from Brad.
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Guzan is the best thing in this whole match.
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Guzan having a blinder against Rory 'One-Trick-Pony' Delap.
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Zog puts a cross in nicely
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We've done ok, but as a "spectacle", this is pretty horrendous stuff.
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Terrible Warnock.
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My stating that we don't mark zonally doesn't merit an argument, any more than someone saying we won the cup in 1957. Someone sqaying we won it lastseason however, needs correcting. I don't want people to engage about it, just to watch the game a bit closer so they don't keep posting their ignorance.
Honestly, anything you like, I'm happy to agree with it if it'll make you stop.
I've got five Mingles left in the box. You can have them all.
Hand them up over or I'll mention the accounts again.
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Again like against arsenal. Not having bent on the end of these balls has cost us not scoring so far.
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All these Stoke players have some sort of towel under shirt the cheating fuckers
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Zog puts a cross in nicely
???
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Those little towels they are wearing could catch on you know, real fashion statement they are.
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NZogbia has done well again,
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My stating that we don't mark zonally doesn't merit an argument, any more than someone saying we won the cup in 1957. Someone sqaying we won it lastseason however, needs correcting. I don't want people to engage about it, just to watch the game a bit closer so they don't keep posting their ignorance.
Honestly, anything you like, I'm happy to agree with it if it'll make you stop.
I've got five Mingles left in the box. You can have them all.
Hand them up over or I'll mention the accounts again.
They're yours.
Here. Have some mint Matchmakers, too. I'm through with mint / chocolate combos.
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Guzan is the best thing in this whole match.
Compared with recent matcy performances rthey are doing OK?
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Here we go, folks.
Prime fuck up territory, this.
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Here we go, folks.
Prime fuck up territory, this.
I can gear Dido
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My stating that we don't mark zonally doesn't merit an argument, any more than someone saying we won the cup in 1957. Someone sqaying we won it lastseason however, needs correcting. I don't want people to engage about it, just to watch the game a bit closer so they don't keep posting their ignorance.
Honestly, anything you like, I'm happy to agree with it if it'll make you stop.
I've got five Mingles left in the box. You can have them all.
Hand them up over or I'll mention the accounts again.
They're yours.
Here. Have some mint Matchmakers, too. I'm through with mint / chocolate combos.
I have giant Toblerone to share
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NZogbia has done well again,
When? He's selfish, profligate and can't cross.
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Here we go, folks.
Prime fuck up territory, this.
Fuck me Paulie - stop mentioning it. I'm bricking it as it is.
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Time added on: 5 seconds.
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We've done ok, but as a "spectacle", this is pretty horrendous stuff.
Which is a good reason for sky/ESPN to leave us alone now and stop moving our fixtures with a bit of luck.
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92.46 time of winner, pennant
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Haven't heard Cuellar's name mentioned this half or Warnock to be fair...
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I'm off for a piss.
No way can we concede whilst I am emptying my bladder. It never happens.
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Fonzie whatcha doing!
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Here we fucking go
Fuck ref gave it against Stoke for taking the throw from the wrong spot
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Thank fuck for that Paulie. Can't believe you argued for so long against an undeniable fact. What next, a week trying to convince me that the Pope isn't a catholic?
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JUst don't concede now FFS.
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Hahaha - fuck off Delap
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I'm off for a piss.
No way can we concede whilst I am emptying my bladder. It never happens.
I am wriggling for a piss... hang on villa
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Agree zog has done OK. Also Petrov apart from his ridiculous shots. Brad has been good and defence mostly ok. Everyone else forgattable.
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Ha! Well done ref.
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So fucking frustrating to see BB on the bench while we struggle to break these fuckers down.
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So fucking frustrating to see BB on the bench while we struggle to break these fuckers down.
WHY!!!
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A good point won.Stoke really are shit.
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Great point in fairness.
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Goodnight chums
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Well, one point more than half you miserable fuckers thought we'd get!
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We've been much better to watch in the past two games. Like we actually want to knock it around. Stoke bring you down to their level so getting much from the Britannia is tough. All in all a point isn't bad.
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Clean sheet is a big bonus, about bloody time mind you!