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Title: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on December 12, 2011, 08:23:41 AM
1-1 draw.

Bent 23

Suarez 65

Downing to get dogs abuse regardless of whether he's on the pitch, on the bench or is conspicuous by his absence. The wanker.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on December 12, 2011, 08:35:13 AM
Hoping we have a go at them and play as we did in the 1st half at bolton , liverpool are far from unbeatable and if we have confidence and attack them i think we can win 2-1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on December 12, 2011, 08:41:20 AM
Fuck it, I'm predicting a 2-0 Villa win. Bent and Gabby to score. Downing to be sent home with his tail between his legs.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cheltenhamlion on December 12, 2011, 08:49:07 AM
I have a little sneaking feeling we will win this as well.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Clark Five on December 12, 2011, 08:52:06 AM
Villa to win. Downing to get severe abuse, deservedly so.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: luke25 on December 12, 2011, 09:16:00 AM
If that ****** Suarez scores, I'm going to crowd surf from row row 31 of the Upper Holte to spear him, I can't stand the little horrible twat! 1-1 Dunne and Kuyt
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: BedsVillain on December 12, 2011, 09:18:07 AM
McLeish is obviously responding to the fan reaction about his 'negative' style, both in the press and on the pitch it seems and the move to 442 was a welcome one. As already stated Liverpool are by no means unbeatable and have been completely inconsistent so far. For us though not having Gabby is a huge loss and for McLeish his big decision is who to play instead. If it's Heskey he'll be moaned at again, The Fonz and Weimann are both risks or there's Ireland who just hasn't done it for us yet. 
I think he'll go with Heskey and hope it brings the best out of Bent.
2-1 Villa, Bent x 2 & Adam for them. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on December 12, 2011, 09:30:25 AM
I'd bring in Bannan instead of Heskey. I'm expecting Downing to make an huge impression on the game; he'll unite all the Villa fans, creating a brilliant atmosphere and a 1-0 Villa win.

Downing to go off crying on 67 minutes.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on December 12, 2011, 10:08:57 AM
2-1 Villa, Bent and Albrighton scoring.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on December 12, 2011, 10:13:09 AM
1-1

Suarez 7

NZogbia 62
Guzan
Hutton Collins Dunne Warnock
Albrighton Herd Petrov NZogbia
Heskey Bent
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: bob on December 12, 2011, 10:13:29 AM
We can win this. Lucas out for the season is a huge loss for them as he had been their best player so far this season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: mal on December 12, 2011, 10:58:34 AM
Fuck it, I'm predicting a 2-0 Villa win. Bent and Gabby to score. Downing to be sent home with his tail between his legs.
Isn't Gabby banned?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Left Side on December 12, 2011, 11:01:34 AM
1-1 draw for me with the Villa equalising after they get a jammy free kick
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rick_avfc on December 12, 2011, 11:32:04 AM
I think it will be a 0-0 draw.  Liverpool will probably be the better of both sides especailly upfront with Suarez causing all sorts of havoc but I think we will keep a clean sheet.
Downing is defo in for some stick the little weasel!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on December 12, 2011, 11:48:42 AM
Liverpool do create alot of chances even If they dont put them away , so backs to wall I think. Gabby is out ;( 

If Eck goes for the Manure route 3-0 'The Mighty Reds YNWA'   , If he tries to play , first half Bolton , then 1-1 .

Come on Villa. I hate these ******** 



edit ****  edit ***** edit *****

oh f**k  , I forgot we are at home , idiot

Villa 4 Liverpool 0     then  :))))))
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on December 12, 2011, 11:59:59 AM
The only decision is who to bring in for gabby.

There's an argument for reverting to 433 with bannan, Ireland or perhaps n'zogbia breaking from the middle. Lucas is out and the Adam - Henderson axis is slow and weak defensively.

But we don't tend to look good when bent plays up top by himself so I'd grudgingly bring heskey in and hope he's motivated.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Shrek on December 12, 2011, 12:24:07 PM
I'm going for a Villa win.

-------------Given
--Hutton-Clark-Dunne-Warnock
Albrighton-Petrov-Herd-N'Zogbia
--------Bent-Weimann

Dont change the system, Weimann is strong, can hold up the ball and knows where the net is.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on December 12, 2011, 12:26:35 PM
I'd bring in Bannan for Gabby.

I think we'll get at least a draw. Even if McLeish plays defensively I think Liverpool will struggle to break us down. Unlike Spurs and to an extent United they don't have the players to do that. That said if we attack them I definitely would not rule out the win.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Reuben on December 12, 2011, 12:32:15 PM
Hutton red card
Liverpool dubious penalty
King Kenny's ref rant deemed a masterstroke.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on December 12, 2011, 12:37:21 PM
I've got a bad feeling that it's going to be like when Torres scored for them in the last minute (season before last was it?). Not much action, fairly even, and then a twat scores - the twat this time being Suarez.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JJ-AV on December 12, 2011, 12:41:09 PM
Guzan
Cuellar - Collins - Dunne - Warnock
Herd - Petrov - Bannan
N'Zogbia - Bent - Albrighton

Obviously Hutton will play though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on December 12, 2011, 12:50:13 PM
I'm going for a Villa win.

-------------Given
--Hutton-Clark-Dunne-Warnock
Albrighton-Petrov-Herd-N'Zogbia
--------Bent-Weimann

Dont change the system, Weimann is strong, can hold up the ball and knows where the net is.

Playing Wiemann is not a bad idea actually.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Simba on December 12, 2011, 12:51:46 PM
Fuck it, I'm predicting a 2-0 Villa win. Bent and Gabby to score. Downing to be sent home with his tail between his legs.

Given the way Mrs. Downing jumped out of tackles I often wondered whether, in fact, he HAD a tail between his legs.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on December 12, 2011, 12:57:20 PM
I think we can win this one. I reckon the crowd and the players will be up for it. The only change I would make is Heskey in for Gabby and I reckon that would be Bent's preference too. I've just got a nagging thought that if anyone is going to spoil it for us it will be Carroll, he's due a goal.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on December 12, 2011, 01:07:29 PM
1-0 Villa. Hutton to take out Downing in spectacular fashion. Bent is due a goal and Bannan to replace Gabby :-)))
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 12, 2011, 01:39:27 PM
1-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on December 12, 2011, 01:47:28 PM
I think we'll score and Bent will get it, but I agree with the Carroll thing and can see a 1-1.  However, I was positive for Bolton so I'll keep that up and have gone for a Villa win.  That'll mean 2-1 as I don't think we'll keep a clean sheet, so I'll say Petrov with the other.

And I'd go for Heskey in place of Gabby.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on December 12, 2011, 02:00:01 PM
1-0 Villa. Hutton to take out Downing in spectacular fashion.
I'd settle for a 1-0 Villa win with Hutton kicking both ball and Downing into the back of the net from 35 yards.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Newquay_AVFC on December 12, 2011, 02:13:18 PM
2-0 Villa. Both for Bent both set up by NZog. A good day all round.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rick_avfc on December 12, 2011, 02:16:25 PM
This is the one game i wouldn't mind Hutton being sent as long as he takes out Downing in the process
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on December 12, 2011, 02:16:59 PM
1-0 Villa. Hutton to take out Downing in spectacular fashion.
I'd settle for a 1-0 Villa win with Hutton kicking both ball and Downing into the back of the net from 35 yards.
I wanted to post something similar but would have left out the bit about us scoring.

I'm not one to be vociferous towards former players but that weasel will get it in Spades on Sunday.

I think the inclusion of Weimann is a good option. He's an unknown quantity for us and they wont have a clue about him.  Villa to win as we will be well up for it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on December 12, 2011, 02:32:52 PM
Fuck it, I'm predicting a 2-0 Villa win. Bent and Gabby to score. Downing to be sent home with his tail between his legs.

Gabby is suspended. He was booked against Bolton, seemingly for having the ball kicked at him by Jaaskelainen and apparently you can't appeal against bookings.

Can't see us getting anything from this, the main enjoyment may come from making Downing cry.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on December 12, 2011, 02:38:34 PM
1-2 them. They have won four and lost three away no draws. If we take our chances we might sneak it!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: bertlambshank on December 12, 2011, 02:41:10 PM
0-0 with Hutton getting a straight red for putting Downing in row J.
Hutton goes on to the fans player of the year award.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Vanilla on December 12, 2011, 02:41:51 PM
I think clinical finishing will be the difference between the two teams.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on December 12, 2011, 02:45:11 PM
I think clinical finishing will be the difference between the two teams.

If that's the case can I change my mind about playing Heskey?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Vanilla on December 12, 2011, 02:52:40 PM
I think clinical finishing will be the difference between the two teams.

If that's the case can I change my mind about playing Heskey?

I have visions of the game against the pool two seasons ago at VP, just after Christmas. The game was complete sludge in midfield. Then Torres got one half chance in injury time, and scored.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Whiney MacWhineface on December 12, 2011, 03:22:46 PM
I may have a Scanners episode. What with Downing and the bloke with the most slappable face in English football playing and the thought of us serving up some desperate tripe disguised as football (i.e. in our Man U/Spurs mode), I shall react messily to our loss.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on December 12, 2011, 04:06:05 PM
3-0 Villa, N'Zogbia with a brace and Super Mark at the back post with Downing ball watching.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on December 12, 2011, 04:31:07 PM
Fuck it, I'm predicting a 2-0 Villa win. Bent and Gabby to score. Downing to be sent home with his tail between his legs.
Isn't Gabby banned?


Ok, I will settle for a 1-0 win so.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on December 12, 2011, 04:37:22 PM
3-0 Villa, N'Zogbia with a brace and Super Mark at the back post with Downing ball watching.

The only balls I want to see him watching are his own as Hutton splatters them all over B6.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on December 12, 2011, 04:38:49 PM
3-0 Villa, N'Zogbia with a brace and Super Mark at the back post with Downing ball watching.

The only balls I want to see him watching are his own as Hutton splatters them all over B6.


I just laughed out loud in the office!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 12, 2011, 04:44:31 PM
3-0 Villa, N'Zogbia with a brace and Super Mark at the back post with Downing ball watching.

The only balls I want to see him watching are his own as Hutton splatters them all over B6.


Arf!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on December 12, 2011, 04:49:44 PM
3-0 Villa, N'Zogbia with a brace and Super Mark at the back post with Downing ball watching.

The only balls I want to see him watching are his own as Hutton splatters them all over B6.


I just laughed out loud in the office!
Seconded. Though in my living room, not the office.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: D.boy on December 12, 2011, 04:51:11 PM
3-0 Villa, N'Zogbia with a brace and Super Mark at the back post with Downing ball watching.

The only balls I want to see him watching are his own as Hutton splatters them all over B6.

I see 2 problems with the execution of this move.....
1. Firstly Hutton will have to locate said balls.
2. Hutton will need very small feet to connect with the balls once they have ben located.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on December 12, 2011, 04:54:14 PM
Huff, puff, hoof, defeat.

0-2

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on December 12, 2011, 05:36:24 PM
3-0 Villa, N'Zogbia with a brace and Super Mark at the back post with Downing ball watching.

The only balls I want to see him watching are his own as Hutton splatters them all over B6.


I just laughed out loud in the office!
Seconded. Though in my living room, not the office.

Downing will probably wet himself when he realises how much vitriol the Holte End now has for him.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on December 12, 2011, 05:39:06 PM
p.s   

Heskey not to start

Bannon , Weimann  whoever  but not the tumbler
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: KRS on December 12, 2011, 05:42:03 PM
Liverpool are certainly beatable...so a draw would be a respectable result.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on December 12, 2011, 05:57:36 PM
0-0.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on December 12, 2011, 06:17:24 PM
3-0 Villa, N'Zogbia with a brace and Super Mark at the back post with Downing ball watching.

The only balls I want to see him watching are his own as Hutton splatters them all over B6.

I see 2 problems with the execution of this move.....
1. Firstly Hutton will have to locate said balls.
2. Hutton will need very small feet to connect with the balls once they have ben located.

3. You're assuming that Downing actually has balls.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on December 12, 2011, 06:48:38 PM
The Downing return will add some spice for sure.  I think we'll get a draw at least.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on December 12, 2011, 06:59:01 PM
I fancied a draw from this but without Gabby we'll revert to hoof at Heskey to flick on to Reina. The repulsive Suarez will be too much for the chuckle brothers so I think they'll win 2-1.

I'm buying some throat lozenges on the way so that I can give Downing 90 minutes of unrelenting dog's abuse without losing my voice. Hopefully Stan will break the weasel's foot again.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on December 12, 2011, 07:10:03 PM
The Downing return will add some spice for sure.  I think we'll get a draw at least.
Wouldn't be surprised if he developed a mystery illness,coward that he is.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villanation on December 12, 2011, 07:21:10 PM
In spite of the Bolton win i still can't see a Villa win anywhere, this is best of the bunch of what's to come, however Liverpool 2-0.

Can't even see a goal coming anywhere from us, if Gabby is out then we lose any real pace up front which edges out Bent even slightly further if that was possible, can't see anything from this, best we can hope for is that we make a decent fist of it and not cave in.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: barrysleftfoot on December 12, 2011, 07:28:23 PM


  Is Suarez banned?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: He wears a magic hat on December 12, 2011, 07:28:59 PM
After many abject displays Sunday will be the day that Alan Hutton endears himself to the Holte End as he launches Stewart Downing into the Upper Witton lane
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on December 12, 2011, 07:33:36 PM
1-0
Late Bent Winner
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Man With A Stick on December 12, 2011, 07:36:44 PM
The Downing return will add some spice for sure.  I think we'll get a draw at least.
Wouldn't be surprised if he developed a mystery illness,coward that he is.

It certainly won't be a spinal injury, as he hasn't got one.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on December 12, 2011, 07:41:23 PM
I wonder if Downing actually knows the level of animosity he's going to face?  The players are so hidden away from the real world these days it's plausible he'll think he might get a mixed reception at worst. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on December 12, 2011, 07:51:31 PM
1-1, Bent with our goal (maybe off a beachball.)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on December 12, 2011, 08:08:36 PM
With Gabby out and Zoggy and Marc being our only wide men, i'd stick Daniel Johnson on the bench for this one. He's looked quite handy for the resreves on the few times i've seen him.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: l_mckay on December 12, 2011, 08:56:02 PM
Hutton to snap Downing in half please!! 2-1 to them i think
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on December 12, 2011, 08:57:30 PM
As much as I despise Downing I wish him no actual harm on the pitch. Just constant vitriolic abuse from the stands will do fine.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on December 12, 2011, 09:43:38 PM
I wonder if Downing actually knows the level of animosity he's going to face?  The players are so hidden away from the real world these days it's plausible he'll think he might get a mixed reception at worst. 

Well I hope he finds out!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on December 12, 2011, 10:01:29 PM
No idea what will happen. But beating these is as a sweet beating ManU. Come on the Villa boys.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Iago on December 12, 2011, 10:03:46 PM
No idea what will happen. But beating these is as a sweet beating ManU. Come on the Villa boys.
It is our cup final  :).
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on December 12, 2011, 10:09:19 PM
No idea what will happen. But beating these is as a sweet beating ManU. Come on the Villa boys.
It is our cup final  :).

Everyone's our bloody Cup Final!

Villa to win the draw in a 3-3 stormer
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Steve kirk on December 12, 2011, 10:30:14 PM
Should be a great atmosphere with the return of you know who, I have a feeling we might just nick it 2-1 for us Bent and Charlie, for them dont really care.   
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on December 12, 2011, 10:33:48 PM
These thoughts probably confirm my place in hell, but I'll forgive Hutton for being rubbish if he nobbles Downing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 12, 2011, 11:04:33 PM
These thoughts probably confirm my place in hell, but I'll forgive Hutton for being rubbish if he nobbles Downing.

I know what you mean.

I never normally want to see a player get injured, but if Hutton puts Downing somewhere halfway up the lower trinity, I'll be very happy.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: timeoutbigbar on December 12, 2011, 11:07:03 PM
1-1 and a torrent of abuse for Downing hopefully.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Greg N'Ash on December 12, 2011, 11:56:04 PM
they really need to win if they're not going to start being left behind by the top4. 1-2 to them
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VancouverLion on December 13, 2011, 02:35:00 AM
2-1 Bent 41, N'Zogbia 79  Suarez 56 for the dippers.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on December 13, 2011, 07:30:18 AM
When on form they have looked half decent and create decent chances - when they have looked poor they have looked really shit and we could get the measure of them

As long as AM changes Gabby for a striker and sticks with 442 then i fancy us - isolate Bent up front and we are in for a depressing day
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: avwebby on December 13, 2011, 09:23:55 AM
Maybe I had a few too many last night, maybe it was the dog barking at the scouse postman but I'm going for a 2-0 win Stan again and Collins header in the 90th minute. That or a volleyed own goal from mrs downing would do me
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on December 13, 2011, 11:49:43 AM
A win here is the kind of result that would really kickstart McLeish's reign. However we wont win if we play Emile Heskey as then we will be effectively be playing with 10 men. Liverpool arent great but Dunne and particularly Collins are likely to struggle with Suarez. Hope Liverpool start with Carroll as Dunne and Collins will be well able for him and Suarez hates playing upfront with him anyway.

Id go with
----------------Guzan
Hutton, Collins, Dunne, Warnock
-----------Herd, Clark--------------
Albrighton, Petrov, Nzogbia
--------------Bent-------------

Almost certainly McLeish will go with Heskey though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on December 13, 2011, 11:52:17 AM
When on form they have looked half decent and create decent chances - when they have looked poor they have looked really shit and we could get the measure of them

As long as AM changes Gabby for a striker and sticks with 442 then i fancy us - isolate Bent up front and we are in for a depressing day

Heskey then I presume as I really can't see us starting Fonz or Weimann.

I'd go 4-3-3 for this with 3 narrow central midfielders as Liverpool are actually short of them at the minute as Spearing, Lucas and Gerrard all injured so the only two they have are Adam and henderson.

Think I'd go with Bannan although he's not at his best in the advanced midfield role, keep Zog and Albrighton wide and get the crosses in for Bent.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on December 13, 2011, 11:55:09 AM
2 - 2. And that nice Mr. Downing will go down with "flu" on Sat. night and have to stay in bed, I don't think he has the bottle to face the abuse he'll get. Oh and those things they used at the Manure match to fire t-shirts into the crowd, any chance we can get hold of them and if Downing comes any where near the Holte we could fire turds at him.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on December 13, 2011, 11:59:19 AM
A win here is the kind of result that would really kickstart McLeish's reign. However we wont win if we play Emile Heskey as then we will be effectively be playing with 10 men. Liverpool arent great but Dunne and particularly Collins are likely to struggle with Suarez. Hope Liverpool start with Carroll as Dunne and Collins will be well able for him and Suarez hates playing upfront with him anyway.

Id go with
----------------Guzan
Hutton, Collins, Dunne, Warnock
-----------Herd, Clark--------------
Albrighton, Petrov, Nzogbia
--------------Bent-------------

Almost certainly McLeish will go with Heskey though.

Thing about that team is we'd be trading a striker for a defender playing in midfield, and I'd like to be more attacking than that! Bannan's not a bad shout, but I'd again fear for Bent getting isolated as he has been at times this season.  For me, it's a reluctant nod to Heskey as it keeps the rest of the team shape as much the same as Bolton as possible.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rick_avfc on December 13, 2011, 12:04:41 PM
Having read about our performance against Bolton and the number of chances created for Bent, I think we need to play 4-4-2 with the same line up except for Gabby.  I think Heskey will probably be the replacement for him but i'd like to see Weimann being given a game as I think he is talent.  Not sure about Fonz, I just dont think he is good enough.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on December 13, 2011, 12:06:22 PM
A win here is the kind of result that would really kickstart McLeish's reign. However we wont win if we play Emile Heskey as then we will be effectively be playing with 10 men. Liverpool arent great but Dunne and particularly Collins are likely to struggle with Suarez. Hope Liverpool start with Carroll as Dunne and Collins will be well able for him and Suarez hates playing upfront with him anyway.

Id go with
----------------Guzan
Hutton, Collins, Dunne, Warnock
-----------Herd, Clark--------------
Albrighton, Petrov, Nzogbia
--------------Bent-------------

Almost certainly McLeish will go with Heskey though.

Bit too negative at home that team for me, i would also pair heskey with bent , he is far more effective as a striker than out wide or in midfield and id like to see a 442 system, with 2 wide men in charlie and marc and stan in midfield alongside herd.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on December 13, 2011, 12:08:02 PM
The worry though is that Liverpool would then outnumber us in the centre as they'd probably just tell Downing and Kuyt/Henderson to drift in from wide positions and then Johnson and Enrique would bomb on from full back.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on December 13, 2011, 12:36:14 PM
Hutton to smash Downing into the New Year.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on December 13, 2011, 01:15:09 PM
I can't stand Downing.

I can't stand "King fucking Kenny".

I can't stand Liverpool.

I really hope we win this.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on December 13, 2011, 02:06:05 PM
1-0 Villa. Hutton to take out Downing in spectacular fashion.
I'd settle for a 1-0 Villa win with Hutton kicking both ball and Downing into the back of the net from 35 yards.

That would work very well and even better if Hutton gets sent off in the dying minutes and we can play someone else as left back for the next three games :-))
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rick_avfc on December 13, 2011, 02:09:48 PM
This is the one game I'm getting behind Hutton 100% to smash downing into row Z.  I also dont mind Hutton getting sent off late on in the game but only if its a foul on downing.
Really looking forward to this game!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 13, 2011, 02:51:04 PM
I wonder if Downing actually knows the level of animosity he's going to face?  The players are so hidden away from the real world these days it's plausible he'll think he might get a mixed reception at worst. 

I wonder if he saw the reception Ash got and thinks "that's the same as i'll get".
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on December 13, 2011, 02:58:52 PM
Really looking forward to this game!

I think most of us are!

And I hope McLeish and the players realise that, as a good performance/result while the fans are going to be so heavily behind the team could really boost our season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dr Butler on December 13, 2011, 03:46:33 PM
I can't stand Downing.

I can't stand "King fucking Kenny".

I can't stand Liverpool.

I really hope we win this.


I'm with you all the way Marlon.

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on December 13, 2011, 05:16:47 PM
I have two hopes for this game. The first is that we win. I don't care how. The second is that that wriggling maggot Downing gets hell from the Holte End like nobody ever has before. I hope he wriggles up his own timid little arsehole until he turns himself inside out. I think we'll lose, but I still really hope the maggot gets his just deserts.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Aston Manor on December 13, 2011, 05:20:39 PM
0-3.

i expect Downing to score. Or at least have a blinder. Thing is he'll be roundly booed but it'll make no odds to him. He doesn't give a shit about Villa or the fans. he has no emotional tie to us so it'll be just business as usual for him. However, as a sniveling weasel he make break down and be rubbish.

Still, 0-3.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Clark Five on December 13, 2011, 05:38:30 PM
I wonder if Downing actually knows the level of animosity he's going to face?  The players are so hidden away from the real world these days it's plausible he'll think he might get a mixed reception at worst. 

There will be some pillocks who think they should clap him. I can hear them now: 'never boo an England player'.
On the other side of things, it is nice to see how Hutton's tackling is making people look forward to the prospect of Clowning getting sorted out.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Clark Five on December 13, 2011, 05:40:52 PM
As much as I despise Downing I wish him no actual harm on the pitch. Just constant vitriolic abuse from the stands will do fine.
He will get plenty from me. I am prepared to turn a blind eye when he gets sandwiched between Dunne and Collins.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on December 13, 2011, 05:44:29 PM
If that lump Heskey is playing Sunday I may even walk out before kick off !! He really is a pile of *****.
I can understand why people think he does a job but for me he is a huge embarassment to the club and shirt.

PS anyone know how much the Half Villa /Half Opposition scarves cost? - Its VCTM jnr`s birthday next week and I want to buy some for him and his Liverpool supporting mates
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: exiled on the wirral! on December 13, 2011, 06:24:45 PM
I think i speak for most villa fans living in and around merseyside, i really want to win against the red lot more than any other game this season. I dont mind everton and their fans, but i honestly hate the red shite more than the Blues and Man Utd, the most sanctamonious set of supporters around. Please Villa win this one just for me, and make my train journey home and monday morning at work a lot more bearable. 2-0 to the villa. COME ON YOU VILLA BOYS!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on December 13, 2011, 07:05:26 PM
Quote
PS anyone know how much the Half Villa /Half Opposition scarves cost? - Its VCTM jnr`s birthday next week and I want to buy some for him and his Liverpool supporting mates

I saw someone had a half team scarf at Old Trafford on Saturday. Can't believe they do them for prem games now, it's just about acceptable when you play a european team.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 13, 2011, 07:33:50 PM
There were loads of day trippers wearing those half and half scarves in the Upper Trinity for the manure game. Twats.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ian. on December 13, 2011, 07:44:24 PM
As much as I despise Downing I wish him no actual harm on the pitch. Just constant vitriolic abuse from the stands will do fine.
He will get plenty from me. I am prepared to turn a blind eye when he gets sandwiched between Dunne and Collins.
You really think Dunne will give up a sandwich for Dunne? Come on don't be daft.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on December 13, 2011, 07:47:25 PM
If that lump Heskey is playing Sunday I may even walk out before kick off !! He really is a pile of *****.
I can understand why people think he does a job but for me he is a huge embarassment to the club and shirt.

PS anyone know how much the Half Villa /Half Opposition scarves cost? - Its VCTM jnr`s birthday next week and I want to buy some for him and his Liverpool supporting mates

I agree just because Gabby is out there is no need to play Heskey.  There has never been a need.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on December 13, 2011, 07:51:16 PM
Did I miss something over the summer - why the really bad feeling for Downing?  We got a good price for an average player.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 13, 2011, 10:45:41 PM
There were loads of day trippers wearing those half and half scarves in the Upper Trinity for the manure game. Twats.

I saw so many people up there doing the "stand at end of row, look confusedly at ticket" thing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on December 13, 2011, 11:04:33 PM
There were loads of day trippers wearing those half and half scarves in the Upper Trinity for the manure game. Twats.

Yep, me and Leeg were asked directions to where to buy them. We sent the guy over towards Mr Woodhall's area.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Clark Five on December 13, 2011, 11:04:57 PM
If that lump Heskey is playing Sunday I may even walk out before kick off !! He really is a pile of *****.
I can understand why people think he does a job but for me he is a huge embarassment to the club and shirt.

PS anyone know how much the Half Villa /Half Opposition scarves cost? - Its VCTM jnr`s birthday next week and I want to buy some for him and his Liverpool supporting mates

I wouldn't bother making the journey then as he is almost certainly playing and you know it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Greg N'Ash on December 13, 2011, 11:44:50 PM
If that lump Heskey is playing Sunday I may even walk out before kick off !! He really is a pile of *****.
I can understand why people think he does a job but for me he is a huge embarassment to the club and shirt.

PS anyone know how much the Half Villa /Half Opposition scarves cost? - Its VCTM jnr`s birthday next week and I want to buy some for him and his Liverpool supporting mates

I wouldn't bother making the journey then as he is almost certainly playing and you know it.


aye. you just hope that he'll give it a go with the fonz up front, but my guess is it will be Ivanhoe with bent or 1 up front with him in midfield
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on December 14, 2011, 02:00:02 PM
If that lump Heskey is playing Sunday I may even walk out before kick off !! He really is a pile of *****.
I can understand why people think he does a job but for me he is a huge embarassment to the club and shirt.

PS anyone know how much the Half Villa /Half Opposition scarves cost? - Its VCTM jnr`s birthday next week and I want to buy some for him and his Liverpool supporting mates

I wouldn't bother making the journey then as he is almost certainly playing and you know it.


aye. you just hope that he'll give it a go with the fonz up front, but my guess is it will be Ivanhoe with bent or 1 up front with him in midfield

Yet again if Eck showed some bollocks and threw a kid in to keep 442 and we struggled after 60 mins then fair play bring on The Mule - but to just start with him, and even contemplate him in midfield, and he deserves all the booing he will get from me for his cowardice (again)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on December 14, 2011, 03:04:50 PM
I'm coming round the idea of playing the Fonz in behind Bent. The idea would be to capitalise on the likely lack of a true defensive midfielder in Liverpool's side. I'm not sure they have any fit / eligible centre midfielders apart from Henderson and Adam, unless they choose to bring a defender into that position (eg Aurelio or Coates).

That might point towards Ireland or Bannan breaking from a 3, but recently we've looked rubbish with Bent on his own up front.

Fonz is the TYPE of player who would enable us to both have more to 'hit' up front and give us passing options in dangerous areas. With good movement he may well be able to exploit space in the same way Dembele did against them. There's just a question about whether he's good enough / ready!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on December 14, 2011, 03:24:48 PM
If he plays then Heskey , then I hope to god he plays him as a striker/target man.

If not I'd rather see Bannan/Ireland  behind Bent or Weimann along side Bent.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: andyaston on December 14, 2011, 04:17:48 PM
There were loads of day trippers wearing those half and half scarves in the Upper Trinity for the manure game. Twats.

Yep, me and Leeg were asked directions to where to buy them. We sent the guy over towards Mr Woodhall's area.
good work
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on December 14, 2011, 07:57:36 PM
"Mr Woodhall`s area" being a euphemism for what exactly? :)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on December 14, 2011, 08:22:05 PM
"Mr Woodhall`s area" being a euphemism for what exactly? :)


lol - very good! 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Clark Five on December 14, 2011, 11:08:37 PM
If that lump Heskey is playing Sunday I may even walk out before kick off !! He really is a pile of *****.
I can understand why people think he does a job but for me he is a huge embarassment to the club and shirt.

PS anyone know how much the Half Villa /Half Opposition scarves cost? - Its VCTM jnr`s birthday next week and I want to buy some for him and his Liverpool supporting mates

I wouldn't bother making the journey then as he is almost certainly playing and you know it.


aye. you just hope that he'll give it a go with the fonz up front, but my guess is it will be Ivanhoe with bent or 1 up front with him in midfield

Yet again if Eck showed some bollocks and threw a kid in to keep 442 and we struggled after 60 mins then fair play bring on The Mule - but to just start with him, and even contemplate him in midfield, and he deserves all the booing he will get from me for his cowardice (again)

In your position in the tunnel, you will be able to do this to maximum effect.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: luke25 on December 14, 2011, 11:16:34 PM
If that lump Heskey is playing Sunday I may even walk out before kick off !! He really is a pile of *****.
I can understand why people think he does a job but for me he is a huge embarassment to the club and shirt.

PS anyone know how much the Half Villa /Half Opposition scarves cost? - Its VCTM jnr`s birthday next week and I want to buy some for him and his Liverpool supporting mates

I wouldn't bother making the journey then as he is almost certainly playing and you know it.


aye. you just hope that he'll give it a go with the fonz up front, but my guess is it will be Ivanhoe with bent or 1 up front with him in midfield

Yet again if Eck showed some bollocks and threw a kid in
We've played Emile as an attacking midfielder so I agree, human sacrifices is the next step.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lobsterboy on December 14, 2011, 11:24:57 PM
I'll go for a 1-1 draw, on the basis that this lot are nearly as poor as we are

Bent to put us in front early doors and Carroll to equalise late on from a mis-hit Downing shot/cross...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on December 15, 2011, 10:24:35 AM
McLeish's three home results against Liverpool when in charge of SHA were: 2-2, 1-1 and 0-0.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on December 15, 2011, 01:53:44 PM
I've just read on RAWK that Darren Bent pulled out of training yesterday.How they know that,I don't know
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Jameson on December 15, 2011, 02:31:31 PM
McLeish's three home results against Liverpool when in charge of SHA were: 2-2, 1-1 and 0-0.

So it will either be 3-3 (highly unlikely) or -1 - -1(more than likely).
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on December 15, 2011, 04:08:04 PM
Just been reading that the decision of the Suarez/Evra/racism inquest is due tomorrow, and if guilty, Suarez faces a lengthy ban.

Let's hope it starts with immediate effect.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rick_avfc on December 15, 2011, 04:25:18 PM
Just been reading that the decision of the Suarez/Evra/racism inquest is due tomorrow, and if guilty, Suarez faces a lengthy ban.

Let's hope it starts with immediate effect.

Lets hope so but I doubt he will be found guilty.  Apparently, some new footage has been handed to the police in the JT case but lets leave that talk for another thread hey!

Lets hope there is some in VP on sunday so we can chuck it at Downing
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villadom on December 15, 2011, 11:09:37 PM
Can't understand the Downing hate. Surely he saw the writing on the wall. We had just employed McLeish and declared a war on wages.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on December 15, 2011, 11:29:23 PM
Just been reading that the decision of the Suarez/Evra/racism inquest is due tomorrow, and if guilty, Suarez faces a lengthy ban.

Let's hope it starts with immediate effect.

Even if found guilty, I expect an appeal. But then as mentioned, I don't think he will be.

Anyway, I hope for a win as I met a nice family on tonights flight back from Belfast who have come over to visit their cousins and take in Sundays match. I expected Irish reds but they are Villa fans. So for this trip I hope they are going to get entertained and go home happy.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villadom on December 15, 2011, 11:35:11 PM
Based on our recent performances, I doubt anybody will be entertained
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: N'ZMAV on December 16, 2011, 09:14:24 AM
Not looking forward to this one, actually, I don't look forward to many games these days. Yes, I'm miserable and boring.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on December 16, 2011, 11:46:53 AM
I dreamt we won 1-0 last night  but Joey Barton was the MOM for us . Very strange
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on December 16, 2011, 11:53:30 AM
Lawrenson has it down as 1-1. So hard luck to the guys who have predicted this.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on December 16, 2011, 01:50:40 PM
Can't understand the Downing hate. Surely he saw the writing on the wall. We had just employed McLeish and declared a war on wages.

I think most of it was down to the little weasel c*** saying how he wanted to sign a new contract then five minutes later deciding he wanted to fuck off to Liverpool.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on December 16, 2011, 04:54:09 PM
Auntie (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16129434.stm)

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TEAM NEWSAston Villa forward Gabriel Agbonlahor serves a one-match ban for accumulating five bookings, so Emile Heskey could start against his former club.

Midfielder Fabian Delph has recovered from the knee injury that caused him to miss last weekend's victory at Bolton.

Liverpool are waiting on the availability of Luis Suarez, who should find out the outcome of his disciplinary hearing today.

Jay Spearing serves the second of a three-match suspension.

MATCH PREVIEWThis fixture was the one where I ended last season; it was a low-key affair and much has changed since. Stewart Downing scored the winner for Villa in what proved to be his last game for the club, Gary McAllister was at the helm in the absence of Gerard Houllier, and Kenny Dalglish was talking afterwards about Liverpool not being in Europe for only the fourth time since 1964.
 
Downing returns to Villa Park for the first time in a Liverpool team strengthened from that day in May and two games from Wembley in the League Cup, while Villa are still searching for consistency, this time under a different manager.

Liverpool's progress is there for all to see - they are seven points better off than at this stage last season before Dalglish returned to the dugout. What's frustrating many at Anfield though is that they could be closer to the leaders. They will be hoping the chances they've created and not converted in games, particularly at home, don't come back to haunt them.

Incredibly, they've hit the woodwork on 15 occasions (I'm reliably informed they would be third if those shots had all gone in!). Nonetheless, to see a team with the likes of Suarez, Carroll, Bellamy, Adam and Kuyt score only 18 goals so far is baffling. They have the best defensive record in the league so they know if the goals start flowing their charge for the top four will gather pace.

Villa's win at Bolton last weekend was much needed, particularly with Sunday's game, Chelsea and Arsenal still to play before the close of the year. With Shay Given and Gabriel Agbonlahor missing they are without key men for this one at both ends of the pitch but still I think Villa fans would like to see a more positive approach at home.

They have a poor record against Liverpool though; in fact the Reds have taken more Premier League points off Villa than any other club and if they can finally discover their scoring touch that could continue on Sunday.

MATCH FACTSHead-to-head

•Villa won at home to Liverpool for the first time in 13 attempts on the final day of last season, when Stewart Downing scored the only goal. Liverpool had won seven and drawn five of their previous 12 league visits to Villa Park.
•However, Kenny Dalglish has yet to win a league match at Villa in charge of Liverpool, drawing all five visits in his first spell and losing 1-0 last season.
Aston Villa

•Villa, who have only averaged a point per game from their last eight matches, next host Arsenal and then visit Stoke and Chelsea before the end of the year.
•Alex McLeish's side have dropped nine points from winning positions - only Blackburn (12) and West Brom (11) have fared worse.
•They have conceded a league-high 32% of goals from corners.
•Darren Bent's five goals this season have all come at Villa Park.
•Stiliyan Petrov has scored three league goals this season - as many as in the previous four seasons combined. His last goal at Villa Park came on the opening day of last season, against West Ham.
•Emile Heskey scored 60 goals in 228 appearances for Liverpool between 2001 and 2004.
•Stephen Ireland awaits his 200th club career appearance.
Liverpool

•Liverpool have only lost one of their last 10 league matches (W5, D4, L1).
•They have the best defensive record in the top flight, conceding only 13 goals and keeping five clean sheets.
•The Reds have hit the woodwork more times than any other team this season (15).
•Summer signing Stewart Downing is expected to make his 300th club career start. He scored nine goals in 63 league appearances for Villa between 2009 and 2011.
•Daniel Agger is poised for his 150th Liverpool appearance, while central defensive partner Martin Skrtel should make his 100th league start for the club.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on December 16, 2011, 05:28:20 PM
These thoughts probably confirm my place in hell, but I'll forgive Hutton for being rubbish if he nobbles Downing.

I know what you mean.

I never normally want to see a player get injured, but if Hutton puts Downing somewhere halfway up the lower trinity, I'll be very happy.
Same here. Dunno why, what with it being the festive season and good will and all that but Downing writhing in agony would be a pleasant site. Maybe Stan and Alan could crunch him from two sides.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on December 17, 2011, 08:46:45 AM
I don't think Liverpool have conceded more than 1 goal for 10 games, so I imagine we'll get nil or one tomorrow. I'd be surprised if we kept a clean sheet so 1-1 is about as good as I can get my hopes up for.

In fact, I'd probably settle for us looking half decent, passing the ball properly and with ambition and bent looking sharp and scoring, even if we narrowly lose. Which is somewhat depressing!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TimTheVillain on December 17, 2011, 10:46:05 AM
I will accept an entertaining game of football.

1-2 Liverpool

The lilly livered weasel being sent to row Z of the Upper Trinity by Hutton would be so great to watch.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on December 17, 2011, 10:56:56 AM
I really hope Downing starts, as if he's on the bench, then it's going to make it a lot harder for Hutton to cut the ****** in half.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TopDeck113 on December 17, 2011, 10:57:48 AM
1-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on December 17, 2011, 11:02:29 AM
I think it will be a draw but like Man Utd and Swansea, these are beatable at the moment. I'd be a bit more confident if Gabby was playing, but i hope even in his absence McCleish puts out a similar side and formation to last week.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on December 17, 2011, 11:07:09 AM
I really hope Downing starts, as if he's on the bench, then it's going to make it a lot harder for Hutton to cut the c*** in half.
If Downing is on the bench Hutton could always go sliding after a ball on the touch line and go crashing into their dugout and take the lot of them out in one fell swoop including Kunt Kenny.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TimTheVillain on December 17, 2011, 11:27:12 AM
I really hope Downing starts, as if he's on the bench, then it's going to make it a lot harder for Hutton to cut the c*** in half.
If Downing is on the bench Hutton could always go sliding after a ball on the touch line and go crashing into their dugout and take the lot of them out in one fell swoop including Kunt Kenny.

Ho ho ho

Now THAT would a great Christmas make !
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on December 17, 2011, 12:01:15 PM
Hutton has been given a cardboard cut out of Downing this week in training. Apparently it now looks like a plane crash victim :-) Come on Villa ........
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on December 17, 2011, 01:27:17 PM
I can't remember ever seeing such an even three way split on the result poll. I'm going for a Villa win along with our best performance of the season so far. And I haven't even had a drink yet!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 17, 2011, 01:34:40 PM
I don't know if my mind is playing tricks on me, but over the last few years, we've had some monumentally boring home matches against Liverpool.

I don't like this fixture. People moan about Man United's arrogant away support, but they're at least mostly Mancunians and are pretty much always the loudest fans we have.

Liverpool's support, on the other hand, is one of the worst year after year. All those daytripping fat blokes from Dublin, foam hand pointing Japanese tourists and jester hat toting Scandinavians, and they make next to no noise.

I'm going for a 0-0 boredraw.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 17, 2011, 01:54:28 PM
Considering how much they hate each other, I've always thought Man U and Liverpool were basically the same. Support split about 50% between glory-hunting twats and 50% local scallies who think their city is the best in the World despite the acres of evidence to the contrary. They all like to think of themselves as being a "left-wing" club then moan when they don't spend £30 million on a new striker every year. Twats, the lot of them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jim Shoes on December 17, 2011, 02:23:20 PM
I don't know if my mind is playing tricks on me, but over the last few years, we've had some monumentally boring home matches against Liverpool.

I don't like this fixture. People moan about Man United's arrogant away support, but they're at least mostly Mancunians and are pretty much always the loudest fans we have.

Liverpool's support, on the other hand, is one of the worst year after year. All those daytripping fat blokes from Dublin, foam hand pointing Japanese tourists and jester hat toting Scandinavians, and they make next to no noise.

I'm going for a 0-0 boredraw.

LOL I'm in Australia and work with one of these Japanese guy's who is flying over to the UK on the 23rd to go to his beloved Anfield with his family.

I tried to explain to him what a fuckin shit hole the area is and how disappointing the Kop stand is, explaining that it might look massive on TV (well it did in the 70's with the TV angles of swaying bin-dippers ) I pissed myself laughing at it the 1st time I went there after hear of this "famous"stand because our Witton Lane when it was a open end was bigger and the Holte End dwarfed it.

Can't see the attraction of flying to the other side of the world to be surrounded by thieving hi-pitched squealing thick scousers but each to his own.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: philthebar on December 17, 2011, 04:25:55 PM
going for a win.  2 - 1.

Can't explin why - gut feeling
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on December 17, 2011, 04:35:04 PM
I don't know if my mind is playing tricks on me, but over the last few years, we've had some monumentally boring home matches against Liverpool.

I don't like this fixture. People moan about Man United's arrogant away support, but they're at least mostly Mancunians and are pretty much always the loudest fans we have.

Liverpool's support, on the other hand, is one of the worst year after year. All those daytripping fat blokes from Dublin, foam hand pointing Japanese tourists and jester hat toting Scandinavians, and they make next to no noise.

I'm going for a 0-0 boredraw.

imagine that supporters from outside the city in which the club are based.

what will be next i wonder
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: 5ft811st2 Durham on December 17, 2011, 11:40:28 PM
Considering how much they hate each other, I've always thought Man U and Liverpool were basically the same. Support split about 50% between glory-hunting twats and 50% local scallies who think their city is the best in the World despite the acres of evidence to the contrary. They all like to think of themselves as being a "left-wing" club then moan when they don't spend £30 million on a new striker every year. Twats, the lot of them.

Nail on the head there. They're the ultimate capitalists.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 18, 2011, 12:06:16 AM
I don't know if my mind is playing tricks on me, but over the last few years, we've had some monumentally boring home matches against Liverpool.

I don't like this fixture. People moan about Man United's arrogant away support, but they're at least mostly Mancunians and are pretty much always the loudest fans we have.

Liverpool's support, on the other hand, is one of the worst year after year. All those daytripping fat blokes from Dublin, foam hand pointing Japanese tourists and jester hat toting Scandinavians, and they make next to no noise.

I'm going for a 0-0 boredraw.

I hate all the great supporter bollocks that Liverpool seem to have managed to con everyone into believing. Unless they are pissing a match they make no noise after kick off. And if they are winning, not much noise anyway until the last few minutes and then they start singing YNWA.

As for the Kop, think over the last few times we've got a result there. It may as well have been empty for all the noise it made. It's just a smaller, shitter version of the Holte.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 18, 2011, 12:06:52 AM
Does it come across that I don't like them much?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on December 18, 2011, 01:28:53 AM
Does it come across that I don't like them much?

You're not alone. Arrogant and humourless cocks.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on December 18, 2011, 01:32:23 AM
I don't know if my mind is playing tricks on me, but over the last few years, we've had some monumentally boring home matches against Liverpool.

I don't like this fixture. People moan about Man United's arrogant away support, but they're at least mostly Mancunians and are pretty much always the loudest fans we have.

Liverpool's support, on the other hand, is one of the worst year after year. All those daytripping fat blokes from Dublin, foam hand pointing Japanese tourists and jester hat toting Scandinavians, and they make next to no noise.

I'm going for a 0-0 boredraw.

imagine that supporters from outside the city in which the club are based.

what will be next i wonder

That's not the point.

A whole away end full of them, sat there updating their Facebook statuses and taking photos every time Suarez goes over their side of the ground.

That's the point.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Eigentor on December 18, 2011, 10:53:55 AM
I'm fairly confident that we'll at least get a draw.

My feeling is that we'll score early by Bent, and then hang on, possibly for the rest of the match. Alternatively, Liverpool will equalize in the last fifteen minutes.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt C on December 18, 2011, 11:04:37 AM
I'd put Bannan in for Gabby but guess it will be Heskey.

1-1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on December 18, 2011, 11:10:06 AM
I'd like to think we could bring Bannan in for Gabby. But as I say above, I suspect we'd end up playing too deeply and unable to mount enough attacks. I don't think bent can play the lone front man role unless we're really playing through the midfield. Emile or Fonz for me.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on December 18, 2011, 12:06:52 PM
Stilll no idea how this is going to pan out.   Just pray he doesnt start with the mule.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on December 18, 2011, 12:10:51 PM
Stilll no idea how this is going to pan out.   Just pray he doesnt start with the mule.

With Gabby out I fear he will - cue hoof and flick-on football
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on December 18, 2011, 12:15:11 PM
Stilll no idea how this is going to pan out.   Just pray he doesnt start with the mule.

With Gabby out I fear he will - cue hoof and flick-on football
If he does he is merely putting nails in his own coffin.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on December 18, 2011, 12:27:43 PM
Kendrick thinks Bent is out. Which I reckon means Heskey definitely starts; and probably Bannan ahead of one of the young forwards. Although it would be interesting to see Bannan on the left and N'Zogbia behind Heskey.

Either way, I reckon 2-0 Liverpool.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on December 18, 2011, 12:37:12 PM
Still have the Fonz and Weimann.  No need for the mule.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: luke25 on December 18, 2011, 12:37:12 PM
If there's any truth in Bent being out I'd rather go with Delfouneso and Weimann, a bit of unpredictability, it'll obviously be Heskey as a lone striker though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on December 18, 2011, 12:44:04 PM
The Fonz AND Weimann? That would be a bit of a gamble wouldn't it? One or the other plus Heskey I'd have thought, but not both.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on December 18, 2011, 12:47:44 PM
Rather gamble than have a dead cert. The dead cert being a truly awful player who won't score or set up a goal. There is no point in playing the mule. Rather have 10 men.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on December 18, 2011, 12:52:01 PM
My guess is that it'll be Heskey with Albie and N'Zog either side. Herd, Petrov and Delph in MF.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on December 18, 2011, 12:59:56 PM
I've just read on RAWK that Darren Bent pulled out of training yesterday.How they know that,I don't know
So those scousers know more than us
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on December 18, 2011, 01:11:08 PM
0-0 I done recon
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Andy Poole on December 18, 2011, 01:19:55 PM
Apparently!

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Title: Re: Aston Villa v Liverpool Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 18, 2011, 05:38:23 PM
And if they are winning, not much noise anyway until the last few minutes and then they start singing YNWA.

Has any set of away fans been more quiet than when they were 2 up than that lot were in the second half?

Childish I know but the only points i'll be scoring today!
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