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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Shoody on November 30, 2011, 11:44:52 PM
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Portugal international Yannick Djalo is to sign for Aston Villa in the January transfer window. French club Nice have agreed a deal with the Premier League club for the 25-year-old.
The speedy forward made the switch from Sporting to Nice on August 31st this year - transfer deadline day. However, the deal was completed minutes after the midnight cut-off point and FIFA refused to sanction the transfer. Sporting did not accept the player back, saying Nice were at fault for failing to process the deal in time. As a result Yannick went to France, but has been unable to kick a ball in anger since leaving Lisbon.
Nice are now to let the player go without having played a single minute for the club. Portuguese state radio station, Antena 1, tonight reported that the clubs have reached agreement, although it is not yet known if it will be a loan or permanent deal.
Yannick Djalo was touted as one of Portugal's great hopes early in his career. Despite sporadic displays of brilliance, he was unable to add consistency to his game, and left Sporting under something of a cloud after being targeted for booing by sections of the Alvalade crowd. He has often stated he would like to play in England.
As the piece says, he was very highly rated but didnt quite meet it. A few people saying he's more of a winger than a striker can play both sides and also upfront. As a replacement for Heskey...fine. But sounds a bit like a Gabby/Fonz type player but I could be wrong, not sure we would need another fast, speedy forward when Fonz isnt getting game time. Would put Albrighton further down the pecking line which is also a shame.
But a player is a player!
Some Stats:
2010/11
Appearances: 17 (+4 from Subs bench)
Shots on Goal: 6
Shots on Target: 6
Goals: 6
2009/10
Appearances: 13 (+5 from Subs Bench)
Shots on Goal: 13
Shots on Target: 7
Goals: 6
2008/09
Appearances: 6 (+10 from bench)
Shots: 1
On Target: 1
Goals: 1
Doesnt get very many assists. Only 4 in total since 2008. On that basis I cant see him being much use from the wing considering he's been playing in Portugal to only get 4 assists is pretty poor imo. But it looks as though if he gets a Shot on Target... It's going to go in. Very Close to a 100% StrikeRate in that!
Worrying that he's a speedy striker, who is consistent with goals (sort of..) and doesnt get very many assists... the 'We're selling Bent' people will be out in force! But I dont think we are, this is just Gabby's replacement.
(i kid)
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Hmmm well thats came out of the blue, he's absolute lightening quick and was supposed to be the next wonderkid a couple of years ago, thats pretty much all I know about the lad.
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I hope we get him in and that he proves a good signing.
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call me cynical but the first thought in my head was who's being sold?
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And which uber-reliable news source has this come from?
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Average of less than 10 games a season.
No thanks.
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He's already used to hearing his own fans booing him,
So that bodes well for the future
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And which uber-reliable news source has this come from?
I got the story from Portugoal.net (http://www.portugoal.net/index.php/more-portuguese-abroad-news/29989-aston-villa-sign-yannick-djalo)
Timothy Abraham of the Express and Star is chasing it up now and will announce later what he finds out.
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I've heard of him before.
Dunno how good he is though.
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I hope its not true. 25 year old forward in probably the only position in the team we have quality in. I mean why would any sane manager look at at our team and go "hmmm....the forwards look particulary weak". Unless this is the start of Randy re-opening his chequebook!!!111111
*cough* Bent gone by February *cough*
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Old story. He was shite then, nothing's changed.
In other news, Aston Villa have offered 42 year old Emile Heskey a 3 and a half year contract.
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He was linked with us a few years ago (back in 2009 IIRC) so it could just be the mother of all rehashes.
If we get the chance to look at a half decent player and exploit his current status than fair enough. From what I understand he's more of an N'Zog type, rather than a winger who gets to the line and bangs crosses in. If he provides competition for places and gives CNZ a kick up the arse then why not.
Edit. MK beat me too it.
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Perhaps we have a surplus of letters left after stockpiling for Djemba-Djemba but never using them.
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I hope it's just his agent trying to tout him around.
How much would he be, £8-10 million.
Bent out for £25 million???
If it is a new purchase, not funded by a sale, what is the use of striker? We might as well just get a statue from B'ham City centre and plonk it up front, considering the amount of service he is going to get.
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I hope he turns out to be a good signing.
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I had a similar thought to Greg - another forward.
Aside from that, I can't think of a single signing from a French club that's come off for us. From Jean II through to Mattheiu Berson. Even Didier Six's loan from Mulhouse back in the eighties only excited for about three or four games in total.
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Priority #1: Centre Back
Priority #2: Full back
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and if we get to a third priority then maybe - just maybe - we'd look at the attack. But only after removing Ireland, Heskey, Collins and - unlikely in the extreme - Hutton.
And funding? - the sale of Bent of course; which would appear to be two steps back to make one forwards.
End of.
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To be honest at this point Im just happy to be linked with anyone
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You'd imagine we could pay for this guy with the interest from the money we raised from sales in the summer!
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Fingers crossed he's not another Nii Lamptey..
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I've seen him play before for Sporting and he looked decent so I don't know what happened to his career really. We could even be getting him on the cheap by the sounds of it.
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I'll believe it when I see it
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Never heard of him but if Greg is against it the chances are it's a good move.
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I don't know if I heard this correctly as I was doing stuff around the house but I thought I heard SSN reporter for the north east David Craig allude to the fact that reports in the papers up there are suggesting that a Sunderland bid for Darren Bent could be imminent. As I say I'm not sure I heard correctly. Ducks for cover.
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I don't know if I heard this correctly as I was doing stuff around the house but I thought I heard SSN reporter for the north east David Craig allude to the fact that reports in the papers up there are suggesting that a Sunderland bid for Darren Bent could be imminent. As I say I'm not sure I heard correctly. Ducks for cover.
Hmm.....manager-less Sunderland bidding what would have to be £20m+ for a player who pissed them and their fans off big-time only a season ago. I can't see it personally..
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Poor stats and sound more like an Ireland. Can we carry more passengers in our squad?
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Priority is to change the tactical mindset of the manager so that we play more attacking football. If we buy Messi and Ronaldo in the next window but don't get the ball to them it won't make a difference to our results. Ok, I'm stretching a bit as they might just get pissed off and take the ball on a 80yd mazy run and score....
Point being, AM needs to be comfortable with the players he has, and morst importantly realise that scoring goals is much more fun that trying to shut teams down all game. We have two of the best strikers in the PL up front. Find a way with what you have got to get them the ball in the box as often as possible from every conceivable position on the pitch. This player looks exciting (in the limited clips that are available, but then you could make one of Harweood or Heskey if you only had 3 minutes), but it won't make a difference if our set up doesn't allow him or the other creative players in the team to express themselves.
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Express and Star are reporting this as being a loan deal if it happens
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Fingers crossed he's not another Nii Lamptey..
He's a Portugese Ivo Stas.
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Bloody hell, there could be some truth to this rumour. He's written on his Facebook page that he's on his way to Birmingham. The President of the Players Union has just been interviewed on TV about the story, I think there must be some problem with the player and Sporting after UEFA refused to accept his transfer to Nice, claiming it was after the deadline. The value in the summer was €4.5m.
Since then he's neither played for Sporting or Nice. It appears he'll be on his way to B6 in the next week or two.
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Bloody hell, there could be some truth to this rumour. He's written on his Facebook page that he's on his way to Birmingham. The President of the Players Union has just been interviewed on TV about the story, I think there must be some problem with the player and Sporting after UEFA refused to accept his transfer to Nice, claiming it was after the deadline. The value in the summer was €4.5m.
Since then he's neither played for Sporting or Nice. It appears he'll be on his way to B6 in the next week or two.
Is he any good then, Mark?
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Shite.
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Just checked his Facebook page and he wrote from his mobile two hours ago, "Go to Aston Villa".
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You tube compilations are ace.
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He looks a bit like Nani. Unfortunately he's not Nani.
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I wonder if we're sending N'Zogbia to Nice on loan as part of the deal.
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I wonder if we're sending N'Zogbia to Nice on loan as part of the deal.
I too was wondering whether this deal would have an impact on his position.
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I wonder if we're sending N'Zogbia to Nice on loan as part of the deal.
I too was wondering whether this deal would have an impact on his position.
If that's the case, then surely the board would want some sort of permanent deal? They just lashed out 10 big ones of money they don't have. Nothing surprises me in football, but you have to believe that after Ireland not working out, they're going to want to get money first and up front in every transaction.
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If it is true,does that mean Albrighton doesn't come into Mccleishs plans?
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N'Zog has been very disappointing so far but it's very early days, I'd be astounded if we giving up on him so quickly.
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I wonder if we're sending N'Zogbia to Nice on loan as part of the deal.
I too was wondering whether this deal would have an impact on his position.
If that's the case, then surely the board would want some sort of permanent deal? They just lashed out 10 big ones of money they don't have. Nothing surprises me in football, but you have to believe that after Ireland not working out, they're going to want to get money first and up front in every transaction.
Personally, I hope there's no truth in it at all. He'll come good.
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As a loan then it's a good move especially if the terms of any transfer are agreed.
If nothing else it shows some imagination from the club.
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I wonder if we're sending N'Zogbia to Nice on loan as part of the deal.
I too was wondering whether this deal would have an impact on his position.
If that's the case, then surely the board would want some sort of permanent deal? They just lashed out 10 big ones of money they don't have. Nothing surprises me in football, but you have to believe that after Ireland not working out, they're going to want to get money first and up front in every transaction.
Personally, I hope there's no truth in it at all. He'll come good.
N'Zogbia is a better Right Winger. I think Djalo plays as a striker or on the left wing.
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It doesn't make alot of sense to me, short-term, although there may be longer-term benefits (next season).
We have wingers; we have attackers; we have attacking midfielders (over and above Emule!).
We lack footballing Centre Backs; the key problem with our current set-up and performances.
Unless there is a plan to offload Bent - thereafter using Gabby as the central striker with Djalo and N'Zogbia as support-attackers - this is a distraction. If Bent is going in January, then there better be a large amount of wonga coming in and some pretty convincing rationale.
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So far we've written off Bent, N'Zogbia and Albrighton on the basis of a rumoured short-term loan signing.
I suppose it must be that because it's obvious we don't need to add creativity, strengthen the squad or provide competition for places and none of our players ever get injured or suspended.
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So far we've written off Bent, N'Zogbia and Albrighton on the basis of a rumoured short-term loan signing.
Maybe because any talk of adding to the squad comes somewhat as a surprise!? - I don't think many of us expected to be talking about squad-additions until next close-season.
I don't think anyone is particularly writing off current players; just trying to rationalise why we would be rumoured to be bringing in a left-winger / attacker when that position is not the most needy area for improvement right now and when the management has intimated that funds are not availalbe for squad development.
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So far we've written off Bent, N'Zogbia and Albrighton on the basis of a rumoured short-term loan signing.
I suppose it must be that because it's obvious we don't need to add creativity, strengthen the squad or provide competition for places and none of our players ever get injured or suspended.
Weren't you writing off Albrighton the other day?
"Had his chance, didn't take it" etc?
*wink*
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I don't think we're that well off in the attacking department that we can afford to ignore the potential to strengthen if the chance comes up. We only really have Gabby and Bent scoring any goals this season; N'Zogbia hasn't got going yet, Albrighton's not playing, Delfouneso isn't getting a look in, Weimann's not ready and we're busy turning Heskey into the new Beckenbauer.
I think we can take on a new striker/winger, don't think it necessarily means anyone is leaving.
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So far we've written off Bent, N'Zogbia and Albrighton on the basis of a rumoured short-term loan signing.
I suppose it must be that because it's obvious we don't need to add creativity, strengthen the squad or provide competition for places and none of our players ever get injured or suspended.
Weren't you writing off Albrighton the other day?
"Had his chance, didn't take it" etc?
*wink*
Good point, hopefully the new bloke will keep the useless big nosed bastard away from the side permanently.
*wink right back at you*
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Good point, hopefully the new bloke will keep the useless big nosed bastard away from the side permanently.
:o >:(
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Matt kendrick just tweeted that he's been invited for a trial but has NOT been signed.
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Apparently the lad's confirmed it on his Facebook page.
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I miss Omar Cummings.
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Can't hurt to have a look at him.
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Our defense makes stupid mistakes but in the hierarchy of football they're not that bad. We just need to find a way to score and be able to overcome defensive errors on the scoreboard. If we find a way to score 2 or 3 goals a game I doubt we'll see many losses. Its a shame we can't sign him up today because these waters are going to get rough.
We need offense, and I don't care if it comes from a winger, the middle or a forward. Hopefully, he comes with some confidence and is out to prove he still has value. We just can't afford more offensive stutter, similar to N'Zogbia.
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Matt kendrick just tweeted that he's been invited for a trial but has NOT been signed.
It's all very strange, signed too late to play for Nice but he is a Nice player (I think), I can't understand why Nice want to send him out on loan, especially having gone to the trouble of fighting UEFA to allow him to play. Isn't Brian Green our Nice expert?
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If we find a way to score 2 or 3 goals a game I doubt we'll see many losses.
We'll be pushing Manchester City for the title with that sort of productivity!
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Probably going to play at right back :D
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I had a similar thought to Greg - another forward.
Aside from that, I can't think of a single signing from a French club that's come off for us. From Jean II through to Mattheiu Berson. Even Didier Six's loan from Mulhouse back in the eighties only excited for about three or four games in total.
Heskey and the Fonz won't be here next season so we do need another forward and we also lack players who can play out wide.
I assume this will be a loan, see how this lad will get on.
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He looks a bit like Nani. Unfortunately he's not Nani.
He's more like Great Grandma.
Or even Grandma Jean. Remember her???
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Have the club actually confirmed it yet? Its been about 24 hours since this leaked out so you'd think they'd have confirmed or denied it. Unless they wanted it kept quiet because he's lined up to replace someone in Jan.........
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Apparently the lad's confirmed it on his Facebook page.
like
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Have the club actually confirmed it yet? Its been about 24 hours since this leaked out so you'd think they'd have confirmed or denied it. Unless they wanted it kept quiet because he's lined up to replace someone in Jan.........
you're so naughty Gregory with your devious thinking ways, but here's a thought, it could just be an addition. Or if you want to look at it through glass half full terms, Heskey's off to Leicester.
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Have the club actually confirmed it yet? Its been about 24 hours since this leaked out so you'd think they'd have confirmed or denied it. Unless they wanted it kept quiet because he's lined up to replace someone in Jan.........
you're so naughty Gregory with your devious thinking ways, but here's a thought, it could just be an addition. Or if you want to look at it through glass half full terms, Heskey's off to Leicester.
heh. we can but hope. Trouble is, if we're skint why would you make an addition to the strike force? I'm not saying we've got good cover in attack but compared to other areas of the team we're positively spoilt for choice. all smells wrong to me especially the silence from the club.
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Have the club actually confirmed it yet? Its been about 24 hours since this leaked out so you'd think they'd have confirmed or denied it. Unless they wanted it kept quiet because he's lined up to replace someone in Jan.........
you're so naughty Gregory with your devious thinking ways, but here's a thought, it could just be an addition. Or if you want to look at it through glass half full terms, Heskey's off to Leicester.
heh. we can but hope. Trouble is, if we're skint why would you make an addition to the strike force? I'm not saying we've got good cover in attack but compared to other areas of the team we're positively spoilt for choice. all smells wrong to me especially the silence from the club.
What should they be saying then? Commenting on every bit of press speculation?
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Have the club actually confirmed it yet? Its been about 24 hours since this leaked out so you'd think they'd have confirmed or denied it. Unless they wanted it kept quiet because he's lined up to replace someone in Jan.........
you're so naughty Gregory with your devious thinking ways, but here's a thought, it could just be an addition. Or if you want to look at it through glass half full terms, Heskey's off to Leicester.
heh. we can but hope. Trouble is, if we're skint why would you make an addition to the strike force? I'm not saying we've got good cover in attack but compared to other areas of the team we're positively spoilt for choice. all smells wrong to me especially the silence from the club.
What should they be saying then? Commenting on every bit of press speculation?
well its not press speculation is it? the bloke himself has come out to say he's coming here as well as various officials over there
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Have the club actually confirmed it yet? Its been about 24 hours since this leaked out so you'd think they'd have confirmed or denied it. Unless they wanted it kept quiet because he's lined up to replace someone in Jan.........
you're so naughty Gregory with your devious thinking ways, but here's a thought, it could just be an addition. Or if you want to look at it through glass half full terms, Heskey's off to Leicester.
heh. we can but hope. Trouble is, if we're skint why would you make an addition to the strike force?
I don't think we're skint transfer money wise. Paul Faulkner himself in that recent interview said that they'll sit down in Jan and look at possible players. It's the wage bill that's the stumbling block and as it's been one in, one out, it would'nt surprise me if it's Heskey on his way back home in January.
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Have the club actually confirmed it yet? Its been about 24 hours since this leaked out so you'd think they'd have confirmed or denied it. Unless they wanted it kept quiet because he's lined up to replace someone in Jan.........
you're so naughty Gregory with your devious thinking ways, but here's a thought, it could just be an addition. Or if you want to look at it through glass half full terms, Heskey's off to Leicester.
heh. we can but hope. Trouble is, if we're skint why would you make an addition to the strike force? I'm not saying we've got good cover in attack but compared to other areas of the team we're positively spoilt for choice. all smells wrong to me especially the silence from the club.
What should they be saying then? Commenting on every bit of press speculation?
well its not press speculation is it? the bloke himself has come out to say he's coming here as well as various officials over there
At the moment there still isn't a story, so no need for comment. And I can well imagine the mass outbreak of knicker-wetting if out of nowhere the club said "Nobody's for sale."
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he looks good on you tube but Kilbane looks good on you tube . Good luck to him If true .
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He's on trial, we haven't signed him. He could end up like Omar (footballer, not The Wire protagonist).
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Always amazes me people saying we should be scouting and getting these cheap players in from abroad and then when one pops up it's suddenly not an option.
This lad is worth a look, on trial or loan or whatever. He's played for Portugal and looked decent earlier in his career but obviously lost his way a bit.
And given his actual goalscoring record there's no way he's a replacement for Bent so stop worrying there.
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Always amazes me people saying we should be scouting and getting these cheap players in from abroad and then when one pops up it's suddenly not an option.
This lad is worth a look, on trial or loan or whatever. He's played for Portugal and looked decent earlier in his career but obviously lost his way a bit.
And given his actual goalscoring record there's no way he's a replacement for Bent so stop worrying there.
absolutely. Imagine the internet reaction or uproar if we signed a lad called Cahill from Millwall, or some kid called Platt from Crewe, or some lower league potential like Rush from Chester, or some big grinned kid from the Caribbean called Dwight, or a Tiote from Twente. There are gems out there and we should be casting our net as far and wide as possible.
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It was reported on the OS Media Watch yesterday afternoon attributed to Sky Sports.
I would have expected a denial by now!
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Have the club actually confirmed it yet? Its been about 24 hours since this leaked out so you'd think they'd have confirmed or denied it. Unless they wanted it kept quiet because he's lined up to replace someone in Jan.........
you're so naughty Gregory with your devious thinking ways, but here's a thought, it could just be an addition. Or if you want to look at it through glass half full terms, Heskey's off to Leicester.
heh. we can but hope. Trouble is, if we're skint why would you make an addition to the strike force? I'm not saying we've got good cover in attack but compared to other areas of the team we're positively spoilt for choice. all smells wrong to me especially the silence from the club.
You could be right Greg.
Recent behaviour in terms of selling players and looking to rake in as much money as possible will naturally lead to that kind of cynicism.
Personally, I'd like to think it's us being proactive for a change, and picking up a Portuguese international for a song due to his transfer status. The obvious question is if he's that good then (a) why was it only Nice coming in for him and (b) why aren't they looking to tie the deal up.
His stats re goals and assists don't mark him out as a potential world beater, but against that he is still young (ish) and can't be a complete mug to play for Portugal. It's still only a trial at present - so we're more into Omar Cummings territory rather than a definite replacement for our better players.
If he does stay, he might be little more than cover for Gabby- a pacy option from the bench.
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The big question is can he play left midfield and defend at set pieces?
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The obvious question is if he's that good then (a) why was it only Nice coming in for him and (b) why aren't they looking to tie the deal up.
If he does stay, he might be little more than cover for Gabby- a pacy option from the bench.
The price tag of €3.5m tells you all you need to know. There were rumours last month that Porto were going to try and sign him in January. He's very much like a young Gabby, very fast but questionable technical skill.
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let's give the lad a chance. He might utter bollocks or he might surprise everyone. There are plenty of unproven players on both sides of the ledger that have either been either bollocks which is why they never got noticed or a hidden gem. We haven't signed many hidden gems in the past 10 years that I can recall for relatively nominal fees. If he's crap, unlike Man U's investment in Bebe, we'll just send him back.
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The obvious question is if he's that good then (a) why was it only Nice coming in for him and (b) why aren't they looking to tie the deal up.
If he does stay, he might be little more than cover for Gabby- a pacy option from the bench.
The price tag of €3.5m tells you all you need to know. There were rumours last month that Porto were going to try and sign him in January. He's very much like a young Gabby, very fast but questionable technical skill.
Maybe you're right Mark. But contract status and duration plays a part too. Sporting themselves did some cracking business last summer with the likes of Capel and Van Wolfswinkel for less than €7 million combined- two young Spanish and Dutch internationals.
Also in your part of the world, Steven Defour joined FC Porto for €6 mill and Axel Witsel joined Benfica for €8 million, so the value is out there. I'm not sure Djalo comes into that category yet, but I'm glad we're at least considering alternatives to the overpriced (and overhyped) domestic market.
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Witsel and Defour are class, but i have my doubts for the PL. A missed chance is that lad M'vila... really good player that, unlucky we didnt snatch him up last season.
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"We're just going to look at him on trial," McLeish said. "Talk of signing him is very premature.
"I didn't really want it to be anybody's business, but I know the lad put it on Facebook himself, so what chance have you got?"
And the 3rd finish in that hatrick posted earlier is a stunner.
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And the 3rd finish in that hatrick posted earlier is a stunner.
.....and so is his Missus ! ......http://www.ronaldo7.net/friends/yannick-djalo.html ........Ooooh , I say , hope we see her down at Villa Park , apparently she,s a Children.s T.V. Presenter in Portugal , I bet she could put the 'Blue' into Blue Peter ! , Valerie Singleton she ain,t !
Note , this site already has Djalo,s listed Club ( somewhat prematurely ) as Aston Villa ................Godzvilla!
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Some people really will find something negative in everything.
I can't for the life of me see why this could be a negative thing.
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Some people really will find something negative in everything.
I can't for the life of me see why this could be a negative thing.
Absolutely