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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on October 14, 2011, 07:27:41 PM
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Available Saturday afternoon.
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Heskey and Clark in for Bannan and Collins
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Mistake dropping Bannan, but come on you Villa boys.
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Looks like I was wrong thinking he'd drop Hutton.
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The good news is Silvas on the bench Barry and Milner both start
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Mistake dropping Bannan, but come on you Villa boys.
Perhaps he's resting him because of his injured foot?
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Mistake dropping Bannan, but come on you Villa boys.
Perhaps he's resting him because of his injured foot?
If that's the case fair enough.
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Aston Villa
01 Given
02 Hutton
03 Warnock
05 Dunne
21 Clark
07 Ireland
16 Delph
19 Petrov
09 Bent
11 Agbonlahor
18 Heskey
Substitutes
22 Guzan, 24 Cuellar, 10 N'Zogbia, 12 Albrighton, 25 Bannan, 31 Herd, 26 Weimann
Man City
25 Hart
02 Richards
04 Kompany
06 Lescott
22 Clichy
07 Milner
11 Johnson
18 Barry
34 De Jong
42 Y Toure
45 Balotelli
Substitutes
30 Pantilimon, 13 Kolarov, 28 K Toure, 19 Nasri, 20 Hargreaves, 21 Silva, 10 Dzeko
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Mistake dropping Bannan, but come on you Villa boys.
Perhaps he's resting him because of his injured foot?
He also said he was exhausted but he said Hutton was exhausted too:-/
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I'd have had Bannan and Herd in for Delph and Hutton. Bannan played for Scotland again after he'd injured his foot, and if he wasn't fit to play he wouldn't be on the bench, so apparently AMC prefers Delph over Bannan.
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Big mistake playing Ireland.
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Nice easy win please Bent hatrick before HT
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Alternatively another Hat-trick for Gabby against Man City!
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Pressures all on Citeh.Come on Villa
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Afternoon all. First match thread of the season for me I reckon.
Baptism of fire ....
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Is Collins injured?
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Is Collins injured?
Too upset to play after seeing the French rob the Welsh this morning.
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Any threads?
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Any threads?
http://www.sun-sport.blogspot.com/ is working so far
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Cheers
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I have a great idea lets drop the brightest young talent we have had at the Villa for years and replace him with the biggest crock of shit we have had at the Villa for years. It is beyond belief you stupid ginger c***.
UTV
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Hold on he's the Midlands very own Franz Beckenbaur, you can't leave a talent like that out.
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Hold on he's the Midlands very own Franz Beckenbaur, you can't leave a talent like that out.
No he isnt Bannan is better than Xavi, Ineista and Messi...........how dare Alex drop him
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Hold on he's the Midlands very own Franz Beckenbaur, you can't leave a talent like that out.
No he isnt Bannan is better than Xavi, Ineista and Messi...........how dare Alex drop him
I meant Heskey.
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There's a Mancunian refereeing?
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Claret shorts :(
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I have a great idea lets drop the brightest young talent we have had at the Villa for years and replace him with the biggest crock of shit we have had at the Villa for years. It is beyond belief you stupid ginger c***.
UTV
Who's got an injured foot and played mid-week?
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Good to see CC back albeit on the bench.
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See Mancini is playing half his second team - Adam Johnson, Milner, et al.
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we are under the cosh.
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I have a great idea lets drop the brightest young talent we have had at the Villa for years and replace him with the biggest crock of shit we have had at the Villa for years. It is beyond belief you stupid ginger c***.
UTV
He's got a habit of giving the ball away a lot. That's the last thing we need at Man City.
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I have a great idea lets drop the brightest young talent we have had at the Villa for years and replace him with the biggest crock of shit we have had at the Villa for years. It is beyond belief you stupid ginger c***.
UTV
He's got a habit of giving the ball away a lot. That's the last thing we need at Man City.
Good job we have Heskey losing it like a moron then. And just think we could be extending his contract? Would be the death of Villa imo.
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Heskey, why?
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Anyone with a working stream?
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That feed has gone, anyone else got one?
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Heskey, why?
I would love to know.
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Hold on, Mcleish praised Heskey and the papers went with the new contract angle. Do you honestly think they will be offering the kind of deal Heskey is on to someone of that age?
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I've resorted to BRMB
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http://asialive4.tumblr.com/
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Thanks again.
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http://asialive4.tumblr.com/
Cheers
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Should have scored
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Really good chance that.
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Gabby - oh!!!!
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Would have expected Gabby to score then
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What a chance! We can take these, they don't look interested
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http://extremegoal7.blogspot.com/p/channel1x.html
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There's a Mancunian refereeing?
Saw that, Cheshire, thats proper Man City land isn't it?
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Fucking hell that was close.
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Lucky to get away with that
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I have a great idea lets drop the brightest young talent we have had at the Villa for years and replace him with the biggest crock of shit we have had at the Villa for years. It is beyond belief you stupid ginger c***.
UTV
He's got a habit of giving the ball away a lot. That's the last thing we need at Man City.
Good job we have Heskey losing it like a moron then. And just think we could be extending his contract? Would be the death of Villa imo.
The same Heskey that's won almost everything in midfield so far?
As for the death of Villa, why would you care, you hate us.
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heskey is a waste of space!
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Heskey has consistently given the ball away so far.
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We've done alright to be honest.
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The whole team are working really hard and not doing so badly so why diss any of them?!
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I think Ireland is starting to look decent for us.
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Bloody great save from Shay.
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Good for Given there.
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The whole team are working really hard and not doing so badly so why diss any of them?!
cos if heskey could keep hold of the ball we could be doing better, he prevents us from keeping up any pressure up top
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http://www8.livetv.ru/webplayer2.php?t=seeon&c=21296&d=broker.sopcast.com:3912&lang=en&eid=87350&lid=1063&ci=1&si=1
Not English
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The whole team are working really hard and not doing so badly so why diss any of them?!
Well said EffDee
But Heskey is crap ;)
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Fuck.
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Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
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1-0, fucking Balotelli.
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Shit
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Typical! The minute I put the sream on they score :(
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Fuck. Urghhh.
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Oh dear!!
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I fear for us now.
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well Ballotelli has a hex on us.
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Bastard Balotelli again. He must love playing us.
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FFS Petrov, shit play.
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For fucks sake Petrov, just find a fucking pass.
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Damn it. Come on villa, keep in touch
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It pains me to say it, but when he is in the mood, he is awesome that Balotelli.
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Not seen much of the kaiser today
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Just a case of how many now.Putting 10 men behind the ball was never going to work
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Delph! Lucky not to be carded there.
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Ouch - Delph and De Jong sliding in at each other!
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They're cutting through our midfield with ease now
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What a nasty little scumbag Nigel de Jong is.
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Our hope is to keep it close and hope to nick something. Go 2 behind and that will be that.
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Shot from Warnock.
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This is men against boys stuff at the moment.
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We're not doing so badly, but we are so slow when in possession that we'll be relying on Citeh errors to score. We need to move the ball more swiftly.
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At least we're still creating chances.
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i have been very impressed by clark so far. doing well
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We need to be bringing someone on at half-time to move the ball around - Heskey off / BB on?
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Ireland playing well, De Jong doing a hatchet job on him.
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Heskey should have hit the target there ...
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Think we have done ok first half, certainly first 20 mins anyways, and better than i expected.
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We need to be bringing someone on at half-time to move the ball around - Heskey off / BB on?
I'd like to see us persist with Ireland and Bannan, they really seem to connect.
Man City look like they've got one eye on next week's games. It's a big week for them. A 93rd minute equaliser is our best hope.
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I think we should get Bannan on, Emile isn't really offering a great deal and we need a goal.
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Bannan for Heskey. A no brainer, surely.
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Quite why he started with Heskey and not Bannan is anybody's guess.
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Quite why he started with Heskey and not Bannan is anybody's guess.
Because Bannan is carrying an injury and just played two difficult games in the last seven days?
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Doing ok and still in the game. Bit of luck and we may still get something.
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Quite why he started with Heskey and not Bannan is anybody's guess.
Because Bannan is carrying an injury and just played two difficult games in the last seven days?
If he's injured then he shouldn't be in the squad. If he's fit, then as one of our best performers in recent games, he should have started.
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After watching North West Derby on Skysports HD on Virgin Cable, and watching this game on streaming. My eye bleed.
Is streaming quality depend on PC or server or my connection. Can you get good HD quality on streaming at all.
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Good to get to HT just one down. Could have been worse - but could have been better if Gabby/Warnock had put that chance away. Agree we need to bring Bannan on for Heskey to give us more energy in midfield - would create room for Ireland too. Also - could Bent have done better in preventing that corner getting across for their goal? Hard to tell on the stream I'm watching
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Heskey has been pointless. apart from that we are doing pretty well. Delph having his best game in a while.
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Fabian Delph is absolutely garbage, quite what anyone sees in him i have no idea. He gives the ball away every time he has it and has the touch of a baby elephant.
Not a bad first half, we just need to keep posession better and push a bit higher up the pitch as we're too deep.
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I can see Bannan coming on, but I'd imagine it'll be for Ireland. While it's still 1-0 he'll probably want to keep the team physically competitive and snatch a late equaliser.
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Quite why he started with Heskey and not Bannan is anybody's guess.
Because Bannan is carrying an injury and just played two difficult games in the last seven days?
If he's injured then he shouldn't be in the squad. If he's fit, then as one of our best performers in recent games, he should have started.
Even if BB isnt up to 90 mins you dont have to replace him with EH, playing this man totally kills the life out of our team. He could have picked any other player in the squad just not him.
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Think we are doing Ok, great work from Gabby to create the chance, great strength, only grumble there was he should have laid it of rather than the typical striker, when your covering that much ground at that kind of angle and giving a keeper like Hart that much chance to close down the angle, very little chance of scoring IMO
Heskey maybe should have made a tad more.
For me Delph is the problem he's making so many mistakes.
The only thing I would be concerned about is that Man City look like they are pacing out the game which say's to me they can step up a gear and destroy us as and when.
Bent needs to get more into the game and we need to make sure Gabby gives them more problems.
Ireland looking better every game..
See how it goes...
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Encouraging first 25, but since then we've been pegged back. Love that Clark is in the back, someone who is willing to pass it out of the defensive third. Hutton and Warnock also playing well. We've had chances to create but we seem overly-concerned with defending and probably rightly so. I hope Darren can look a threat, he's be invisible as far as I'm concerned. Heskey's just too slow right now for this game, Barry Bannan please.
C'mon Stevie Ireland put one away on these clowns.
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How's no goals Delph playing?
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How's no goals Delph playing?
Not his game IMO....
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I blame that fan, as soon as that happened we didn't see the ball again, i predicted a 2-0 loss odds on i would say!
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How's no goals Delph playing?
Shit. Again.
Never seen anyone give the ball away as much as he does.
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Showing highlights of the 92/93 season. *sigh*
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I blame that fan, as soon as that happened we didn't see the ball again, i predicted a 2-0 loss odds on i would say!
If you mean the Ballotelli thing, absolutely, you can bet your life if you take the piss out of somebody like that he'll be right back at you and bite your head of, which is why he reacted the way he did after the goal.
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Bannan has to come on.
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Come on Villa!
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No HT subs?
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Great Cross from Delph.
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Warnock you fucking dick head, game over.
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Crrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaapppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
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Fantastic. All over when it could have been 1-1.
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2-0
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Shit
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FFS Warnock.
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Shocking. Fuck sake.
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Oh for fuck's sake
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Warnock failed to clear ball.
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Get Bannan on now.
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WTF was that. We are on for a hiding now. Bloody shite defending there.
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Warnock failed to clear ball.
Generous, he completely fucking gashed it.
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i've just turned it back on WTF
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3-0.
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Comical defending there - defenders slow to get to the ball.
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Oh my fucking lord, this is getting embarrassing now.
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Pathetic.
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bollox. 3-0
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Fuck it, later chaps.
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Fucking hopeless.
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Time to get some subs on.
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This could get embarrassing now
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Atrocious.
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I'm out.
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3-0? I turn my back for 5 mins. wtf
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Citeh were shit in the first half and there for the taking but the manager chose to fuck it with poor team selection. Now we pay. Fuck off Eck.
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stable doors and horses...
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Good finish Warnock, glimmer of hope. Come on N'Zog and Banna.
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Well, we've broken Citeh's clean-sheet record.
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I'd forgotten we had N'Zogbia.
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Warnocks goal is the first they have conceded at home since February. Says a lot
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I'd forgotten we had N'Zogbia.
Who?
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Come on Villa - back in this!
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Fans in good voice!
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Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
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Seriously? Fuck off Villa.
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Oh well that's the end of that, nobody bothers picking up Milner 4-1.
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Class from Milner. Brilliant goal, no celebration.
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Milner, class. All over
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Milner scores - brilliant goal.
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Taking the piss now and we have our last dodgy '20mins' to come
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At least he didn't celebrate.
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Class from Milner there!
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Just where the fuck is our midfield?
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I'd forgotten we had N'Zogbia.
I'd like to forget. I bet Randy would as well, another £10m that doesn't exactly look like it was spent very well.
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Milner very classy. Unusual in those parts.
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Respect to Milner.
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Big respect to Jimmy for not celebrating.
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What makes it even worse is their fans doing that twatty celebration
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It was all over at 2-0 for me!
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Citeh were shit in the first half and there for the taking but the manager chose to fuck it with poor team selection. Now we pay. Fuck off Eck.
In the same way as did MON and Houllier. Face it, we're not in the same class as Citeh at the moment ... but then they have spent x amount of millions on players.
Let's stay real, here.
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I'd hate to be the twat that was confident we'd win!
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Although it's quite easy not to celebrate a goal that makes it 4-1. Delph and Petrov don't seem to be able to work out who is in what role.
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Thank god David Silva is crap.
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The gulf in class makes me want to cry.
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Citeh were shit in the first half and there for the taking but the manager chose to fuck it with poor team selection. Now we pay. Fuck off Eck.
In the same way as did MON and Houllier. Face it, we're not in the same class as Citeh at the moment ... but then they have spent x amount of millions on players.
Let's stay real, here.
Exactly, I never expected us to get anywhere close to this team this year, anyone who did is deluding themselves.
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Slicing us apart now.
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this could end up 6 or 7.....cant watch...im off.
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Citeh were shit in the first half and there for the taking but the manager chose to fuck it with poor team selection. Now we pay. Fuck off Eck.
In the same way as did MON and Houllier. Face it, we're not in the same class as Citeh at the moment ... but then they have spent x amount of millions on players.
Let's stay real, here.
We are not as good as them but you have to play your best team to stand a chance and as you say our managers have consistently picked shit teams.
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Citeh can now park the bus. In our arse alongside Evel Knievel, the CBSO, a Vespa 125 and Shergar.
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I just want it to stop now
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I'm watching it live on TV in Shanghai - Chinese TV - and apparently (according to my girlfriend who is translating) even the commentators are saying McLeish should go.
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No surprise though is it?
Men against boys or the Haves v Have nots
Citeh are in a different class to us and unless Randy sells to somebody with big bucks we wil only go backwards.
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Citeh were shit in the first half and there for the taking but the manager chose to fuck it with poor team selection. Now we pay. Fuck off Eck.
In the same way as did MON and Houllier. Face it, we're not in the same class as Citeh at the moment ... but then they have spent x amount of millions on players.
Let's stay real, here.
What's the point then?
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least we will be first on match of the day............
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Really taking the pee now..what is stopping them scoring more?
UTV..forlornly. Our best players are on the wrong side.
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They're just taking the piss now - and the worry is that they can
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No surprise though is it?
Men against boys or the Haves v Have nots
Citeh are in a different class to us and unless Randy sells to somebody with big bucks we wil only go backwards.
Of course we will go backwards.
We've taken the woefully under strength squad of last year, sold two of the best players, released lots more, not replaced them, and made the most underwhelming managerial appointment.
It is nothing to do with today, which was predictable, but was there ever any chance of not going backwards under those circumstances?
Not a prayer.
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I bet you he starts with the same lineup next week. That's the saddest thing.
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Sorry Paulie I meant even further backwards...
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No surprise though is it?
Men against boys or the Haves v Have nots
Citeh are in a different class to us and unless Randy sells to somebody with big bucks we wil only go backwards.
let's live in the real world shall we. There is no multi-billionaire looking to buy an EPL club at the moment and there isn't likely to be one in the near future.
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Citeh were shit in the first half and there for the taking but the manager chose to fuck it with poor team selection. Now we pay. Fuck off Eck.
Should Harry Redknapp Fuck off for Spurs too ?
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No one seems able to pass up front..what are forwards there for?
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Citeh were shit in the first half and there for the taking but the manager chose to fuck it with poor team selection. Now we pay. Fuck off Eck.
Should Harry Redknapp Fuck off for Spurs too ?
I support Villa not Spurs - so dont give a shit.
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Citeh were shit in the first half and there for the taking but the manager chose to fuck it with poor team selection. Now we pay. Fuck off Eck.
In the same way as did MON and Houllier. Face it, we're not in the same class as Citeh at the moment ... but then they have spent x amount of millions on players.
Let's stay real, here.
What's the point then?
Indeed! This is the way the game as gone and Citeh have set the new rules - ££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££
Read the posting about the TV rights for a heads-up on the haves and have-nots.
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The gulf in class makes me want to cry.
And that is why current football is shite.
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2-3 years ago i'd have been devestated. this barely registers now. you have a rough idea who you're going to beat and you certainly know who's going to beat you. So predictable. More kids gonna be buying city shirts tomorrow because they only support the teams in fashion. fed up of football, its more fun playing it on a games console.
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We were always going to lose this one. We just need to make sure we are back on track with a win against those stripy fuckers next week.
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watching Aston Villa at the moment is like watching Charlton Athletic during the final season of Alan Curbishley
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We must be shite, they're playing Hargreaves
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Citeh were shit in the first half and there for the taking but the manager chose to fuck it with poor team selection. Now we pay. Fuck off Eck.
Should Harry Redknapp Fuck off for Spurs too ?
I support Villa
Could have fooled me.
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The Have's v The Has Been's.
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watching Aston Villa at the moment is like watching Charlton Athletic during the final season of Alan Curbishley
What bollocks!!!!!!!!
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If we'd fallen like this at Cheltenham we'd be in the knacker's truck by now!
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Citeh were shit in the first half and there for the taking but the manager chose to fuck it with poor team selection. Now we pay. Fuck off Eck.
Should Harry Redknapp Fuck off for Spurs too ?
I support Villa not Spurs - so dont give a shit.
So you were expecting to win then?
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Our manager has done so well, up to now despite losing our best best players.
Losing by 3 or 4 goals to the potential champions on their own turf is nothign to write home about..
It's happened every season. We are always made to look rubbish by Man U or Chelsea...Man city are the new kings in town, so losing by three or four goals is not the end of the world. Just look the pre match thread...almost everyone was expecting it..
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Citeh are better than last season, while we have lost quality but are still not as lame as under Houllier. We'll never beat Citeh in a blue moon now. Scratch it off, it's all about how we bounce back and prepare for the Olybion.
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McLeish won't be judged on matches like this one. It'll be matches like next week's
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I hope The Kaiser recovers for the Albion game. His reading of the play today was breath taking at times.
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Citeh are better than last season, while we have lost quality but are still not as lame as under Houllier. We'll never beat Citeh in a blue moon now. Scratch it off, it's all about how we bounce back and prepare for the Olybion.
Thanks Steve. I needed that. It's pulled me back from a desperate evening
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stream has gone..small mercy!
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Citeh were shit in the first half and there for the taking but the manager chose to fuck it with poor team selection. Now we pay. Fuck off Eck.
Should Harry Redknapp Fuck off for Spurs too ?
I support Villa not Spurs - so dont give a shit.
So you were expecting to win then?
No but you need to play the right team in the right positions to stand a chance.
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Tony D, no manager has played the right team in the right positions. That doesn't exist...
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Citeh were shit in the first half and there for the taking but the manager chose to fuck it with poor team selection. Now we pay. Fuck off Eck.
Should Harry Redknapp Fuck off for Spurs too ?
I support Villa not Spurs - so dont give a shit.
So you were expecting to win then?
No but you need to play the right team in the right positions to stand a chance.
By which I presume you mean Bannan instead of Heskey?
Like we have for the last 25 minutes. It doesn't seem to have made much of a difference.
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Citeh were shit in the first half and there for the taking but the manager chose to fuck it with poor team selection. Now we pay. Fuck off Eck.
Should Harry Redknapp Fuck off for Spurs too ?
I support Villa not Spurs - so dont give a shit.
So you were expecting to win then?
No but you need to play the right team in the right positions to stand a chance.
We could have played anyone anywhere today and the result would be the same. We have a weak squad; Citeh has a stellar squad. That'a all you need to know.
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Citeh were shit in the first half and there for the taking but the manager chose to fuck it with poor team selection. Now we pay. Fuck off Eck.
Should Harry Redknapp Fuck off for Spurs too ?
I support Villa not Spurs - so dont give a shit.
So you were expecting to win then?
No but you need to play the right team in the right positions to stand a chance.
We never stood a chance
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Tony D, no manager has played the right team in the right positions. That doesn't exist...
That's what pisses me off!! And the money and respect they get is laughable.
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2-3 years ago i'd have been devestated. this barely registers now. you have a rough idea who you're going to beat and you certainly know who's going to beat you. So predictable. More kids gonna be buying city shirts tomorrow because they only support the teams in fashion. fed up of football, its more fun playing it on a games console.
change the setting to world class then ey ;)
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Citeh were shit in the first half and there for the taking but the manager chose to fuck it with poor team selection. Now we pay. Fuck off Eck.
Should Harry Redknapp Fuck off for Spurs too ?
I support Villa not Spurs - so dont give a shit.
So you were expecting to win then?
No but you need to play the right team in the right positions to stand a chance.
We never stood a chance
Hi Gerard! Good to see you on the mend.
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They let us off lightly! Back to drawing board.
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Tony D, no manager has played the right team in the right positions. That doesn't exist...
That's what pisses me off!! And the money and respect they get is laughable.
Bloody hell, Tony, you certainly beat up on yourself don't you?! :-)
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Thank fuck that's over
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seen far far worse,didnt roll over and die at any point,no one bar manure and maybe chelski could live with that