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Title: Positives for next season
Post by: Brend'Watkins on June 16, 2011, 03:20:30 PM
1) Our manager will not be waving at the kop.
2) Stuart Downing (if he's still with us) will have to start tackling.
3) Our manager will definitely not be getting poached mid season.
4) We will be taking cup competitions seriously.
5) Less traffic on the roads
6) Shorter queues to the toilets
7) "Why can't we keep a clean sheet" will be heard less frequently.
8) We'll have a new sponsor.
9) We wont be having our normal high expectations shattered.
10) We wont be having high expectations.
11) We wont be having expectations.
12) Mid table mediocrity will be our new 4th and it will be attainable.
13) Bannan, Albrighton, Clarke, Delph will all be regulars.


Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: Chipsticks on June 16, 2011, 03:23:45 PM
Not sure about Clarke and Bannan being regulars, as whoever takes over will probably bring in their own players.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: not3bad on June 16, 2011, 03:26:17 PM
14) We'll still be able to sing "Have you won the European Cup" to Chelsea, Arsenal & Man City.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: Austin1975 on June 16, 2011, 03:28:48 PM
Struggling to think of any at the minute (scratching head furiously!).



The future's not bright, it's ginger and sweaty.

Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 16, 2011, 03:29:46 PM
15) Although I can't afford a ST, I should still get to a fair few games as there will be a lot of well priced ticket offers.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 16, 2011, 03:32:12 PM
Not sure about Clarke and Bannan being regulars, as whoever takes over will probably bring in their own players.

I actually think one of the mandates of Mcleish will be to bring through these kids and integrate them more. With the amount crap we still ahve to move out there will be plenty of room for McLeish's own players coming in as well as our own coming through. Bannan was doing well last year, but in my opinon GH rightly turned to experienced players for the run in. He's a very good prospect and his challenge will be to hold his spot with a healthy Delph, with the likes of Gardner and Hogg pushing for a place as well as Petrov still being there, Makoun and Bradley. I think we're quite healthy there. We just need some creative outlets to supply Bent and Gabby.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on June 16, 2011, 03:32:49 PM
16. The club colours are still Claret And Blue.   
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: Chipsticks on June 16, 2011, 03:36:52 PM
17) We won't have to face the possibility of losing to the knuckledraggers in the league.
18) We get to watch Blues get hammered for a while on Thursday nights; Channel 5.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: Chris Smith on June 16, 2011, 03:38:49 PM
19) We won't have many Sunday kick offs.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 16, 2011, 03:40:33 PM
I'm quite relaxed about the whole thing now. Disappointed but willing to give McLeish a chance to make his mark. I am very much looking forward to the press conference because it will set the tone for the coming weeks. For me, this season is about being competitive in every single game, and trying to get a positive, winning attitude again. I want players that will battle for the cause. I also want to win a cup which McLeish at least did last year. Our first objective as a club is to at least re-establish ourselves as top end team. Pretty much what we were two years ago. A bit like Everton where we would be challenging and settled at the right end of the table consistently.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 16, 2011, 03:41:25 PM
20) We don't play Rapid fucking Vienna
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: Fergal on June 16, 2011, 03:41:47 PM
20. New shirt sponsors will be 'Rehabilition Services'
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 16, 2011, 03:42:27 PM
22) Gary Gardner
23) Darren Bent becoming the first Villa player in absolutely ages to score 20 league goals
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: Concrete John on June 16, 2011, 03:42:56 PM
Seriously speaking:-
1.  A whole season of Bent and his goals.
2.  Our kids should be better after the experience gained from last season.
3.  The defence should be fairly tight.

I'd normally be thinking quite positively, especially when you also factor in the money I expect Randy to make available to a new manager.  My concern is that McLeish is stuck in his ultra defensive style and despite all of the above we see a load of tight games and end up mid table.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: villanic on June 16, 2011, 03:44:11 PM
There will be plenty of room to have a lie down on a Saturday afternoon after a heavy session on a Friday night with all the empty seats.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on June 16, 2011, 03:44:37 PM
24. Being tall I get quite cramped in the Upper North, i'll now be able to stretch my legs out over a few seats.

25. No queues for refreshments

26. It will remind me of those carefree, halcyon days of my youth - 1987.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: TheSandman on June 16, 2011, 03:44:48 PM
27) It will not be anything like as bad as some of the doom merchants will have us believe.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: Rip Van We Go Again on June 16, 2011, 03:45:40 PM

23) Darren Bent becoming the first Villa player in absolutely ages to score 20 league goals

He'll struggle to do that without the supply line of Downing and Young.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: jibba81 on June 16, 2011, 03:47:45 PM
23) Darren Bent becoming the first Villa player in absolutely ages to score 20 league goals

Listed in the papers as *includes 8 goals whilst playing for Aston Villa
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: Walmley_Villa on June 16, 2011, 03:49:25 PM
I'll be able to move to better seats in the Holte thanks to all the non-renewers just as I did in Dollys last Summer.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 16, 2011, 03:50:08 PM
27) It will not be anything like as bad as some of the doom merchants will have us believe.

I always get the picture of the doom merchants sitting in a corner of dark room muttering to themselves while rocking back and forth. The room has smooth surfaces, contains nothing they can hang or cut themselves with for their own good. The windows are barred. Light rarely gets in. With complete randomness they'll shout "Fuck off you nose McLeish", or "Just sell the club Randy", and then go back to their little world of misery.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on June 16, 2011, 03:50:41 PM
Watching Fletch and Paulie trying to out-do Risso with negativity. Fucking wonderful, can't wait! Bring it on, girls.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: Percy McCarthy on June 16, 2011, 03:52:19 PM
28) We will still be the greatest football club in the world.
29) We may well rediscover our long-standing tradition of pro-active, rebellious support.
30) H&V (mag and website) should be interesting reading.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 16, 2011, 03:52:42 PM
Watching Fletch and Paulie trying to out-do Risso with negativity. Fucking wonderful, can't wait! Bring it on, girls.

30) No more of Kelly banging on endlessly about why Houllier should bring in Patrice Bergues.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 16, 2011, 03:53:46 PM
Watching Fletch and Paulie trying to out-do Risso with negativity. Fucking wonderful, can't wait! Bring it on, girls.

Oh no, not that tiresome "OMG! You're such drama queens!" whilst hiding your own miseryarsedness!

Look at ya, bunch of bloody drama queens if you ask me.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: Concrete John on June 16, 2011, 03:54:13 PM
27) It will not be anything like as bad as some of the doom merchants will have us believe.

I always get the picture of the doom merchants sitting in a corner of dark room muttering to themselves while rocking back and forth. The room has smooth surfaces, contains nothing they can hang or cut themselves with for their own good. The windows are barred. Light rarely gets in. With complete randomness they'll shout "Fuck off you nose McLeish", or "Just sell the club Randy", and then go back to their little world of misery.

You forgot that the room also has a computer with internet connection.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 16, 2011, 03:54:29 PM

23) Darren Bent becoming the first Villa player in absolutely ages to score 20 league goals

He'll struggle to do that without the supply line of Downing and Young.

We have to replace them. As well as Ash and Downing did there was also lots of times their crosses were absolutely dire. I think Albrighton will come on, and we need someone like N'Zogbia too. We might also look to play more through the middle and not rely so much on wingers.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: pauliewalnuts on June 16, 2011, 03:54:56 PM
31) The blokes who sit in the three or four rows behind me are the most miserable, moaniest fuckers you'll ever meet. I reckon at least half of them won't renew now.


I love them really, they're very funny, so this is actually a bad thing :-(
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: Toronto Villa on June 16, 2011, 03:56:21 PM
27) It will not be anything like as bad as some of the doom merchants will have us believe.

I always get the picture of the doom merchants sitting in a corner of dark room muttering to themselves while rocking back and forth. The room has smooth surfaces, contains nothing they can hang or cut themselves with for their own good. The windows are barred. Light rarely gets in. With complete randomness they'll shout "Fuck off you nose McLeish", or "Just sell the club Randy", and then go back to their little world of misery.

You forgot that the room also has a computer with internet connection.

with a reinforced keyboard to account for their fits of rage. The monitor is behind thick plexiglass so that they can't smash it when the red mist comes down.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: Concrete John on June 16, 2011, 03:58:21 PM
32)  we'll no longer hear "It's all Martin's fault" after every defeat.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 16, 2011, 03:58:37 PM
27) It will not be anything like as bad as some of the doom merchants will have us believe.

I always get the picture of the doom merchants sitting in a corner of dark room muttering to themselves while rocking back and forth. The room has smooth surfaces, contains nothing they can hang or cut themselves with for their own good. The windows are barred. Light rarely gets in. With complete randomness they'll shout "Fuck off you nose McLeish", or "Just sell the club Randy", and then go back to their little world of misery.

You forgot that the room also has a computer with internet connection.

with a reinforced keyboard to account for their fits of rage. The monitor is behind thick plexiglass so that they can't smash it when the red mist comes down.

My monitor has a windscreen wiper on it for when i'm screaming at the screen apoplectic with rage.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: jonzy85 on June 16, 2011, 03:58:55 PM
A clean slate to all of the squad, even the bold kids from last year.

Good players in all of them, if Eck can bring out the best in them, he will have started well.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: Brend'Watkins on June 16, 2011, 04:00:07 PM
Their wont be that nonsensical applause when the attendance is readout on the tannoy.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: JUAN PABLO on June 16, 2011, 04:02:37 PM
33)    players signing because they wanted to play for Mcleish and Aston Villa...
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: Pat McMahon on June 16, 2011, 04:09:44 PM
Not stressing on Saturday nights about where to find the Villa on TV in Shanghai..

Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 16, 2011, 04:11:22 PM
34) Not worrying about when we'll be on MoTD as we'll be on last 36 times. The other 2 will be our annual mullerings.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: not3bad on June 16, 2011, 04:26:22 PM
35) Not having to worry about Match of the Day at all.  Because we'll never bother re-watching a match that has no highlights.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: Damo70 on June 16, 2011, 05:09:02 PM
Every victory being like a dagger through the hearts of the Bluenoses.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: Concrete John on June 16, 2011, 05:12:40 PM
Every victory being like a dagger through the hearts of the Bluenoses.

You know, if he does do well that will be such an added benefit it'll be unreal.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on June 16, 2011, 05:16:44 PM
Watching Fletch and Paulie trying to out-do Risso with negativity. Fucking wonderful, can't wait! Bring it on, girls.

30) No more of Kelly banging on endlessly about why Houllier should bring in Patrice Bergues.

36) McLeish teaming up with Patrice Bergues.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: ozzjim on June 16, 2011, 05:22:31 PM
Watching Fletch and Paulie trying to out-do Risso with negativity. Fucking wonderful, can't wait! Bring it on, girls.


Clappy..... now you mention it?
30) No more of Kelly banging on endlessly about why Houllier should bring in Patrice Bergues.

36) McLeish teaming up with Patrice Bergues.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: hipkiss92 on June 16, 2011, 05:37:39 PM
I'm (hopefully) going to University in Sheffield, so won't have to put up with any 'Agent McLeish' jibes if we do do badly.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on June 16, 2011, 06:30:50 PM
27) It will not be anything like as bad as some of the doom merchants will have us believe.

I agree - it will probably be worse :)
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: jembob on June 16, 2011, 06:43:31 PM
I struggling to think of many positives at the moment. Over the summer it would have taken a top manager to fill our squad with players good enough to help us move up a level. The ginger twat doesn't stand a hope in hell of bringing in any good players at all, leave alone a number of them. It's difficult to see next season being anything else but a soap opera and the fans finally turning on Lerner after this disastrous appointment. My season ticket is already bought and I would have probably gone for it anyway but I might have had a serious think about whether I make that sort of financial commitment based upon my expectations for the year.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: paulcomben on June 16, 2011, 06:49:23 PM
No Villa manager has ever been under more pressure to win games to survive, so motivation will be high.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: sixways on June 16, 2011, 06:54:18 PM
1) Our manager will not be waving at the kop.
2) Stuart Downing (if he's still with us) will have to start tackling.
3) Our manager will definitely not be getting poached mid season.
4) We will be taking cup competitions seriously.
5) Less traffic on the roads
6) Shorter queues to the toilets
7) "Why can't we keep a clean sheet" will be heard less frequently.
8) We'll have a new sponsor.
9) We wont be having our normal high expectations shattered.
10) We wont be having high expectations.
11) We wont be having expectations.
12) Mid table mediocrity will be our new 4th and it will be attainable.
13) Bannan, Albrighton, Clarke, Delph will all be regulars.

37. Corner in a minute, we'll win a corner in a minute
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: The Moose on June 16, 2011, 06:57:02 PM
1. We won't get knocked out of Europe by Rapid Vienna
2. Er, that's it.....
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: madirishvillain on June 16, 2011, 06:58:55 PM
it will put all the "it's MON's fault" crap to bed

that was getting so tedious
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: Ian. on June 16, 2011, 07:14:52 PM
38. Eck is going to put some fire in the bellies of our players.

39. Its going to be much better than I am actually anticipating. I will be most surprised.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: The Moose on June 16, 2011, 07:21:06 PM
40. Jerome will be a sensation.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: Quiet Lion on June 16, 2011, 07:25:12 PM
32)  we'll no longer hear "It's all Martin's fault" after every defeat.

Something tells me we will
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: The Situation on June 16, 2011, 07:31:06 PM
41. We will get to watch us play 4-5-1 at home to Blackburn. That's a positive, right?
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: TopDeck113 on June 16, 2011, 07:36:09 PM
42. There not being an away league fixture where the manager will make an arse of himself by kowtowing to his former club and their supporters.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: PeterWithe on June 16, 2011, 07:38:44 PM
He wont be here long enough for it to get too bad.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: eamonn on June 16, 2011, 07:38:48 PM
42. Craig and Gary Gardner will become the first pair of brothers to score in a Wembley final when they win us the FA Cup.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: tauntonvilla on June 16, 2011, 07:45:08 PM
43. Attending Exeter City games, instead of The Villa, wont take up anywhere near as much of my day !
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: ozzjim on June 16, 2011, 07:53:22 PM
44. Someone will have to eat humble pie next season. Either a small piece for 3 men, or a huge piece for 40'000 fans.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: ozzjim on June 16, 2011, 07:54:23 PM
45. Alex McLeish definitely prefers Gibbons over owls. The git.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: frank on June 16, 2011, 07:58:49 PM
46. No more humiliating 7-1 or 6-0 defeats
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: The Situation on June 16, 2011, 08:11:33 PM
47. Just 5-0 defeats instead.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: Villanation on June 16, 2011, 08:15:09 PM
On the positive side there won't be any shocks at the back next season from last season, on the negative we will match that with no goals the other end.

Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: not3bad on June 16, 2011, 08:24:33 PM
45. Alex McLeish definitely prefers Gibbons over owls. The git.

Now I REALLY hate him!!!!
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: Chipsticks on June 16, 2011, 08:46:05 PM
We might genuinely have a chance of winning a cup.
Title: Re: Positives for next season
Post by: Rico on June 16, 2011, 10:22:29 PM
48. All thẹ excitement of thẹ hunt for a new manager come Christmas time! (come on admit it - we all know he's a dead man walking). 500 pages on H & V excellent stuff!
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